• Report: #126188

Complaint Review: Swimmingpoolsetc - Wholesalepoolsupplies - Golfclubsetc - Poolsavings - Waterfilters

  • Submitted: Thu, January 06, 2005
  • Updated: Sun, September 02, 2012

  • Reported By:Rancho Cordova California
Swimmingpoolsetc - Wholesalepoolsupplies - Golfclubsetc - Poolsavings - Waterfilters
3667 Omec Park Dr. Ste 1 Rancho Cordova, California U.S.A.

Swimmingpoolsetc - wholesalepoolsupplies - golfclubsetc - poolsavings - waterfilters RIPOFF Has ripped off, employees, distributors, manufactures, Jeff Yurtin is a CROOK Rancho Cordova California

*Consumer Comment: order tracking # 122496

*Consumer Suggestion: Nice Try, all this must be true, Jeff Yurtin is a LIAR makes threats to Rip-off Report

*Consumer Comment: JIFF, JIFF- HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

*Consumer Comment: JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

*Consumer Comment: JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

*Consumer Comment: JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

*Consumer Comment: JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: THE PROFESSIONAL RANDY VERES RACIST EMAILS BELOW AND WHY HE IS UPSET, READ THE LAST EMAIL IT SAYS IT ALL! GUESS THE LAST PART WAS A LIE!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Order number and full name please..

*Consumer Comment: No Part # Jeff Urin-- Only Your Case #93F03991 Sexual Assault of A 15 year old Girl

*Consumer Suggestion: Oh My God

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres from AZ or Randy Veres from Folsom?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres from AZ or Randy Veres from Folsom?

*Consumer Comment: SWIMMINGPOOLSETC, JEFF URIN OWNER PARASITE

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Type these names in randall veres

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: My last posting for Randy Veres, my last writing on here didnt get posted, so this is it.

*Consumer Comment: WRONG WEB-ADD POSTED FOR RAPIST JEFF YURTIN WWW.SACCOURT.COM

*Consumer Comment: JEFF YURTIN RAPE CASE (#93F03991) LIAR.. SWIMMINGPOOLSETC OWNER

*Consumer Suggestion: Was a Customer!

*Consumer Comment: Wow! Better than pro rasslin'

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You fraudulent fool....you just wait randy veres.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: SPEAKING OF LIARS, REMEMBER WHEN YOU USED TO CHEAT ON TERI...

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: I agree Doug...

*Consumer Suggestion: Just too funny!!!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres, I see why your upset, your still unemployed because of the RACIST remarks!!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

*Consumer Comment: JEFF YURTIN- WELCH - RAPIST - LIAR- PARASITE

*Consumer Comment: JEFF YURTIN- WELCH - RAPIST - LIAR- PARASITE

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres, speaking of your BUSTED UP FACE...

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres called me the N word and he thinks that not RACISM. Christian right? What a joke you are. How many companies have you sued Randy Veres?

*Consumer Suggestion: JEFF YURTIN SCUMBAG, JAIL TIME "SEX WITH A 15 YEAR OLD"

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: WHY WONT ANY ONE PUT THEIR FULL NAME AND PHONE NUMBER ON HERE?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres Emails showing his character PLEASE READ THESE EMAILS.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy Veres of Arizona right...these lies randy, we shall see when you have to show up for a deposition.

*Consumer Comment: JEFF- LOOSER, UNETHICAL, LIAR... FACT ..you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.

*Consumer Comment: JEFF- LOOSER, UNETHICAL, LIAR... FACT ..you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Are you kidding....

*Consumer Suggestion: You are a Loser Jeff

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: The current BBB report below. They are updating due to most of the complaints are not valid.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Randy you will now be sued for misleading people

*Consumer Comment: JEFF YURIN/swimmingpoolsetc. Unethical, Misleading Liar

*Consumer Comment: WOW, getting kind of defensive huh? ...appears that there is a little smoke coming up..

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Are you the one with the criminal record Mike and Mike the dope dealer?

*Consumer Comment: Jeff, what about this ???

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Request for postings to be removed.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: More False Postings With NO PROOF FROM WRITER

*Consumer Suggestion: Swimmingpoolsetc Has an Unsatisfactory Record with the BBB, 56 Complaints Within 3 Yrs

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: False accusations and not even by the employee as is being said!

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I was a former employee of www.developmentllc.com for a few years, the owner of this company Jeff Yurtin is a crook. He has many web sites which he sells product: swimmingpoolsetc.com, wholesalepoolsupplies.com, golfclubsetc.com, poolsavings.com, waterfilters.com, eliminatorpoolproducts.com, and many more. Through out my time there I have watched him steal from distributors, use his customers for their money and not ship product, phisically abuse employees and the list goes on.

He gives the Pool and Spa Industry a bad name not to mention the golf world or what ever he can get his hands on to sell. I would warn any consumer out there to check with the BBB before they order from any one of these sites, you may not be shipped the product advertised and you will never get any sort of "customer service" for they do not even know about the products they are selling!

Shaun
Rancho Cordova, California
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

order tracking # 122496

AUTHOR: Charles - (United States of America)

Hey Jeff, Wow. This is Charles the guy you told you'd not honor your warranty to. Everything I am reading here fits how you have come across to me. Recap for those folks who don't know: I ordered a sauna from Jeff @ swimmingpoolsetc.com. It arrived damaged both water damage and structurally damaged. I forwarded photos of the damage and was told it wasn't bad enough to return, I didn't expect to purchase damaged goods when paying for something new.

After a bit and a few more e-mails Jeff agreed that the damage, I guess caused by the trucking company?, was substancial enough to return. I was told there wasn't a like replacement in stock and would I accept a different model, I agreed. The replacement model did retail for more than the one I ordered, should that have been a warning or were you just trying to practice good customer service?, I really don't know.

A couple of weeks later the sauna's control box began to pop and make other noises then quit all together. I contacted Jeff, remember, you said you'd already lost too much money and that I was on my own. Then you said to hire an electrician to verify that, as I told you: but that you called me a lier about, the unit was put together propperly and that it was on a dedicated circuit.

You said it must be assembled by a master electrician? When your instructions say two adults, oh that's right that is a mis-print I remember now. Also it needs a 30 amp breaker, the cord supplied with the unit that plugs into the wall is rated at 20 amps, mmm.

Long story short, I hired an electrician who verified what I'd told you and concluded the control box, by no fault of yours but none the less, was defective. Not hearing what you wanted you e-mailed me back and said "All sales are final." Intamating forget your honoring your warranty. You said you have an A rating with the BBB, I checked oops no you don't.

Not surprising, I guess, I find you here ranting, professional ranting I guess you'd say. I do not care about any of your drama or personal challenges. I have one request, please honor your written warranty. If it becomes necessary to persue other means to get a warranty replacement I will include this site, as I have kept all our corospondences just so I don't have to try to remember everything. Jeff you claim to be worth millions I'm asking for a replacement part worth a few hundred, can you do the math?

I should have researched further. It is my own fault for having attempted to conduct business with you. Charles, remember me?
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Nice Try, all this must be true, Jeff Yurtin is a LIAR makes threats to Rip-off Report

AUTHOR: Nice - (U.S.A.)

You were not going to pay someone to Hack this site were you? That is another crime!

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any way to get this message that a friend is personally attacking me, i want this thread removed, i will pay good money. its only fair because they are lies posted about me and my company.

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JIFF, JIFF- HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Hey Mr. Wizard, let me inform you of a couple of things so you will not continue to beat a dead horse.

One, your last letter had 14 grammar errors; I believe they teach Remedial English at the home of the mentally retarded, must have missed that class while attending advanced ignoramus.

Two, I also have your emails I just don't paste my own version of them on this site to miss guide people, I recently put yours to good use though, especially the vulgar ones you were sending to John.

FD never found emails you accused me of sending, not on my hard drive, or the ITT server, and after your superior professionalism towards all you spoke to at FD, you once again came out looking like the d**k you so aspire to be!

Moral of the story, I left on great terms, got a better job, doubled my base, expense account, co. car, un-capped and unlimited commission and now a national account executive; thanks to many at FD and their recommendations, and you to pumpkin. Hell, by your last rebuttal I'm sure the next argument you have you will be taking credit for it anyway, if you wanted to screw me so bad you should of shut your sewer hole and left me their, I told your dumb a*s I had been looking around. Buuuuut, you never could keep your stupid worthless opinions to your self.

I really do have a hard time commenting on your rebuttals, since you are a proven liar and will say and do anything to pass as a human being. I will touch on a couple subjects briefly.

YOU HAVE KNOW LAW SUIT, see Jiff you need concrete evidence, it must be proven, you mite get some scumbag lawyer to milk your dumb-a*s, but that is were it ends, trust me on this, I have representation concerning you, hell why not, it only costs me $8 a month as part of my insurance plan, and all BS aside, your a*s is toast. He did say that collecting the money from the looser is a different story, sort of like O.J. Oh well, but I hear lawyers are expensive.

I will fax Shaun a copy of your comments concerning him, his job and your relationship and see if he has the same positive outlook as you. C'mon, why do you do this to your self?

The full name issue? Unlike you, I pay close attention to detail, you have been begging for that, so there must be some reason, sorry, denied again!

Talk about retarded, you said you were only going to respond to legitimate complaints, this is legit, that is why you keep responding back.

There are very few that probably read this, that I am sure of nit-wit, the reason for continuing these postings dip-stick is when ever someone does a search on Pool & Spa companies the latest complaints come up first, hence, you and your company are the first one consumers see when checking on a pool company, duuh. Just think, you can honestly say you are number one their Jiff, Jiff.

Honestly, I am getting tired of wasting my time on here, I could go on abusing you the rest of my life, you make too easy.

We will meet up again chief, don't kid yourself. I'm just done with this s**t.

Try being an honest business person Jeff, and stop giving me a reason to bust you up on this site. All people want from someone when they give them their hard earned money is to get what they paid for, and a little customer service, I don't think that's asking to much? Your new BBB report should be out today, let's see if there is any improvement?
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

RANDIE, THE ABOVE IS FROM THE DICTIONARY, READ IT, THE EMAILS WITH THE REMARKS ARE RACIST AND HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE NAACP.

Rip-off Report is also not accepting comments like those found on many sites that have "threads" with meaningless comments, ..in most cases using foul and insulting language against others, similar to those assaults on victims who have come to the Rip-off Report for justice.

Guess only those against Jeff Yurtin. Because I have a long thread from this unemployed, foul mouthed, non spelling uneducated jerk off randie veres. Just like his dad, a jerk off.

Oh and your reference about my father is way off, see my dad was president of Little League for years and spent more time with me and other kids in our neighborhood in a year than your dad spent with you your entire life. FACT. My dad loved me to a fault and I loved him dearly. Seeings how you chose to attack me and my father who is passed away and cannot defend your lies, I felt obligated to correct you. You or me will not be half the father my dad was randie, you wouldnt help or give anything to people, my father and myself at least help out where we came from, do you? Have you ever helped out any organization that you started from? I sponsor Little League each year for the past 4 years, I also donate about $1500.00 to Cordova High for baseball through Kevin Appino, ask him, ask Kevin Sena if I donate for Little League, I also help out a southern CA baseball team as well and I have earned 4 different community service awards in four different cities while playing minor league baseball. As far as employees, I paid for out of my pocket shaun's first car, not his dad, not his brothers but I paid for it. I gave him a chance and I am sure he learned alot while working for me, he currently has a better position working for General Pool & Spa. I also bought and gave a car to Anthony Stabile. So to say I dont do a thing for other people your grossly mistaken. Same goes for my mother, you call her and ask her how I treat her. She has a newer Lexus GS300 that I paid for for her and she has been offered a new house several times, ask her randie. She has declined getting a new house because of where all her friends reside. Matter of fact her birthday was Oct 6th, took her and 3 of her friends in a streched limo to Masque in El Dorado Hills, fine dining that you cannot afford. Yes I paid for all of it randie. The money from the sale of my parent house did not go to me, because the house was not in my name you idiot. I bought a place in lake tahoe that when I sold it when up 4 times, thats how I got my warehouse half paid off. See if you could have afforded to stay in your house and not lose it and have to live with your parents, parasite, you would have made money too, but your broke. So you and the b***h above that had comments can go suck a fat one.

Randy Veres right......or still too scared to put your full name on here Wow, if you could just harness all that energy you would be as wealthy as me...gee I wonder why it hasnt happened for you but has for me? Ever wonder that randie, thats your new name... randie, cause your just a little b***h. Parasite, yes you are living off unemployment makes you just that!! Your still funny, just broke, gotta give ya that kid. But wait till that law suit hits ya kid, its gonna hurt. As for you we already passed last years sales a month ago, so how is my business even remotely affected by your 6th grade english writings on here? Yes, you and your hag wife have posted things but other than that, nobody reads this nonsense, and if they made it down this far after all the profanity and racism from you I feel sorry for them reading down this far, some life they must have.

I had to correct you and set you straight randie, I know I said I would only respond to people with legitimate complaints but your so retarded. You really should take an english course or get help writing.

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

RANDIE, THE ABOVE IS FROM THE DICTIONARY, READ IT, THE EMAILS WITH THE REMARKS ARE RACIST AND HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE NAACP.

Rip-off Report is also not accepting comments like those found on many sites that have "threads" with meaningless comments, ..in most cases using foul and insulting language against others, similar to those assaults on victims who have come to the Rip-off Report for justice.

Guess only those against Jeff Yurtin. Because I have a long thread from this unemployed, foul mouthed, non spelling uneducated jerk off randie veres. Just like his dad, a jerk off.

Oh and your reference about my father is way off, see my dad was president of Little League for years and spent more time with me and other kids in our neighborhood in a year than your dad spent with you your entire life. FACT. My dad loved me to a fault and I loved him dearly. Seeings how you chose to attack me and my father who is passed away and cannot defend your lies, I felt obligated to correct you. You or me will not be half the father my dad was randie, you wouldnt help or give anything to people, my father and myself at least help out where we came from, do you? Have you ever helped out any organization that you started from? I sponsor Little League each year for the past 4 years, I also donate about $1500.00 to Cordova High for baseball through Kevin Appino, ask him, ask Kevin Sena if I donate for Little League, I also help out a southern CA baseball team as well and I have earned 4 different community service awards in four different cities while playing minor league baseball. As far as employees, I paid for out of my pocket shaun's first car, not his dad, not his brothers but I paid for it. I gave him a chance and I am sure he learned alot while working for me, he currently has a better position working for General Pool & Spa. I also bought and gave a car to Anthony Stabile. So to say I dont do a thing for other people your grossly mistaken. Same goes for my mother, you call her and ask her how I treat her. She has a newer Lexus GS300 that I paid for for her and she has been offered a new house several times, ask her randie. She has declined getting a new house because of where all her friends reside. Matter of fact her birthday was Oct 6th, took her and 3 of her friends in a streched limo to Masque in El Dorado Hills, fine dining that you cannot afford. Yes I paid for all of it randie. The money from the sale of my parent house did not go to me, because the house was not in my name you idiot. I bought a place in lake tahoe that when I sold it when up 4 times, thats how I got my warehouse half paid off. See if you could have afforded to stay in your house and not lose it and have to live with your parents, parasite, you would have made money too, but your broke. So you and the b***h above that had comments can go suck a fat one.

Randy Veres right......or still too scared to put your full name on here Wow, if you could just harness all that energy you would be as wealthy as me...gee I wonder why it hasnt happened for you but has for me? Ever wonder that randie, thats your new name... randie, cause your just a little b***h. Parasite, yes you are living off unemployment makes you just that!! Your still funny, just broke, gotta give ya that kid. But wait till that law suit hits ya kid, its gonna hurt. As for you we already passed last years sales a month ago, so how is my business even remotely affected by your 6th grade english writings on here? Yes, you and your hag wife have posted things but other than that, nobody reads this nonsense, and if they made it down this far after all the profanity and racism from you I feel sorry for them reading down this far, some life they must have.

I had to correct you and set you straight randie, I know I said I would only respond to people with legitimate complaints but your so retarded. You really should take an english course or get help writing.

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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

adj 1: based on racial intolerance; "racist remarks" 2: discriminatory especially on the basis of race or religion [syn: antiblack, anti-Semitic, anti

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

RANDIE, THE ABOVE IS FROM THE DICTIONARY, READ IT, THE EMAILS WITH THE REMARKS ARE RACIST AND HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO THE NAACP.

Rip-off Report is also not accepting comments like those found on many sites that have "threads" with meaningless comments, ..in most cases using foul and insulting language against others, similar to those assaults on victims who have come to the Rip-off Report for justice.

Guess only those against Jeff Yurtin. Because I have a long thread from this unemployed, foul mouthed, non spelling uneducated jerk off randie veres. Just like his dad, a jerk off.

Oh and your reference about my father is way off, see my dad was president of Little League for years and spent more time with me and other kids in our neighborhood in a year than your dad spent with you your entire life. FACT. My dad loved me to a fault and I loved him dearly. Seeings how you chose to attack me and my father who is passed away and cannot defend your lies, I felt obligated to correct you. You or me will not be half the father my dad was randie, you wouldnt help or give anything to people, my father and myself at least help out where we came from, do you? Have you ever helped out any organization that you started from? I sponsor Little League each year for the past 4 years, I also donate about $1500.00 to Cordova High for baseball through Kevin Appino, ask him, ask Kevin Sena if I donate for Little League, I also help out a southern CA baseball team as well and I have earned 4 different community service awards in four different cities while playing minor league baseball. As far as employees, I paid for out of my pocket shaun's first car, not his dad, not his brothers but I paid for it. I gave him a chance and I am sure he learned alot while working for me, he currently has a better position working for General Pool & Spa. I also bought and gave a car to Anthony Stabile. So to say I dont do a thing for other people your grossly mistaken. Same goes for my mother, you call her and ask her how I treat her. She has a newer Lexus GS300 that I paid for for her and she has been offered a new house several times, ask her randie. She has declined getting a new house because of where all her friends reside. Matter of fact her birthday was Oct 6th, took her and 3 of her friends in a streched limo to Masque in El Dorado Hills, fine dining that you cannot afford. Yes I paid for all of it randie. The money from the sale of my parent house did not go to me, because the house was not in my name you idiot. I bought a place in lake tahoe that when I sold it when up 4 times, thats how I got my warehouse half paid off. See if you could have afforded to stay in your house and not lose it and have to live with your parents, parasite, you would have made money too, but your broke. So you and the b***h above that had comments can go suck a fat one.

Randy Veres right......or still too scared to put your full name on here Wow, if you could just harness all that energy you would be as wealthy as me...gee I wonder why it hasnt happened for you but has for me? Ever wonder that randie, thats your new name... randie, cause your just a little b***h. Parasite, yes you are living off unemployment makes you just that!! Your still funny, just broke, gotta give ya that kid. But wait till that law suit hits ya kid, its gonna hurt. As for you we already passed last years sales a month ago, so how is my business even remotely affected by your 6th grade english writings on here? Yes, you and your hag wife have posted things but other than that, nobody reads this nonsense, and if they made it down this far after all the profanity and racism from you I feel sorry for them reading down this far, some life they must have.

I had to correct you and set you straight randie, I know I said I would only respond to people with legitimate complaints but your so retarded. You really should take an english course or get help writing.

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JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Jeff,

I have pasted actual dictionary meanings of words you throw around without a d**n clue as to what they mean. Get some help, they would not let me use crayons to write this.

You're an Uneducated Neanderthal, who is physically and mentally challenge, an embarrassment to the human race, hence, you are 41, single, lonely, a looser and angry as hell for being a mirror image of Barney Fife, sporting a boiler, a severe nasal problem and a wretched set of teeth.

PROOF 1. conclusive evidence: evidence or an argument that serves to establish a fact or the truth of something.

Have you anything with concrete evidence of the claims you make against me and others?- emails? NO. I, and others displayed your pathetic BBB record. I gave a website address for people to see the pathetic parasite that you are.

UP UNTILL THEN, YOU GAURANTEED, DENIED, AND SWORE THESE WERE ALL LIES. EVEN YOUR DUMB a*s WENT TO THE SITE WITH THOSE BEEDY RED EYES, THIS WAS IN FACT PUBLIC INFORMATION, OOOPS. BUSTED

ACORDING TO THE PARASITE: NEVER BEEN ACUSED OF RAPE, BEEN TO JAIL, BEEN SUED, BAD CHECKS, HORRIBLE BBB, OH, AND I CONTACTED THE BBB AND TOLD THEM IF THEY DID NOT RE-POST YOUR UPDATED BBB IN THE NEXT WEEK, THEY WERE GOING TO BE REPORTED TO THE DISTRICT ATOURNEYS OFFICE. NICE TRY A-HOLE.

Shaun Odonahue was an employee of yours for two years and came on this site informing people of the type of business you run, backed by responses from customers and people who have dealt with you.

You're rebuttals prove you are beyond medical help, and that you will say or due anything to deny the TRUTH, to protect your pathetic self and unethical businesses. It's called SELF-DENIAL. Wake up d**k, It's over.

Parasite, parasite
1. organism living on another: a human or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host. JEFF YURTIN
2. scrounger: somebody or something that exploits others without doing anything in return. (swimmingpoolsetc - golfclubsetc)


PAY REAL CLOSE ATTENTION HERE a*****e

Racist,.. racist
1. PREDJUDICE AGAINST ALL PEOPLE WHO BELONG TO OTHER RACES.

JIFF, I WILL ADMIT I THINK YOU ARE A PIECE OF s**t, NO QUESTION. BUT UNFORTUNETLY FOR YOUR DUMB a*s YOU ARE WHITE, YOU ARE NOT OF ANOTHER RACE, OR COLOUR. AND IT SAY'S NOTHING ABOUT PARASITES?

2. racist person: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race. YES, I HATE YOU, BUT Incase you haven't noticed OJ Yurtin, your WHITE/s**t STAIN

Libel. libel

1. defamation: a false and malicious published statement that damages somebody's reputation. Libel can include pictures and any other representations that have public or permanent form.

Like Jeff accusing others of: Racism, Suicide, Drug Addict, etc. etc.

2. attacking of somebody's reputation: the making of false and damaging statements about somebody.

All information on this site has been backed with PROOF, dumb s**t. You have not, hence, YOU'RE THE ONE BEING SUED.


Fraud frawd

1. (crime of cheating somebody:) the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception. JEFF URIN and his businesses.

2. (somebody who deceives:) somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain. yep, that would be you, JEFF YURTIN

3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people. Jeff's web sites pertaining to his businesses and false accusations of, VIP Customer Service, Low Prices, backed by astronomical shipping charges, Return Policy, Restocking Fees, etc., etc., etc.
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#8 Consumer Comment

JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Jeff,

I have pasted actual dictionary meanings of words you throw around without a d**n clue as to what they mean. Get some help, they would not let me use crayons to write this.

You're an Uneducated Neanderthal, who is physically and mentally challenge, an embarrassment to the human race, hence, you are 41, single, lonely, a looser and angry as hell for being a mirror image of Barney Fife, sporting a boiler, a severe nasal problem and a wretched set of teeth.

PROOF 1. conclusive evidence: evidence or an argument that serves to establish a fact or the truth of something.

Have you anything with concrete evidence of the claims you make against me and others?- emails? NO. I, and others displayed your pathetic BBB record. I gave a website address for people to see the pathetic parasite that you are.

UP UNTILL THEN, YOU GAURANTEED, DENIED, AND SWORE THESE WERE ALL LIES. EVEN YOUR DUMB a*s WENT TO THE SITE WITH THOSE BEEDY RED EYES, THIS WAS IN FACT PUBLIC INFORMATION, OOOPS. BUSTED

ACORDING TO THE PARASITE: NEVER BEEN ACUSED OF RAPE, BEEN TO JAIL, BEEN SUED, BAD CHECKS, HORRIBLE BBB, OH, AND I CONTACTED THE BBB AND TOLD THEM IF THEY DID NOT RE-POST YOUR UPDATED BBB IN THE NEXT WEEK, THEY WERE GOING TO BE REPORTED TO THE DISTRICT ATOURNEYS OFFICE. NICE TRY A-HOLE.

Shaun Odonahue was an employee of yours for two years and came on this site informing people of the type of business you run, backed by responses from customers and people who have dealt with you.

You're rebuttals prove you are beyond medical help, and that you will say or due anything to deny the TRUTH, to protect your pathetic self and unethical businesses. It's called SELF-DENIAL. Wake up d**k, It's over.

Parasite, parasite
1. organism living on another: a human or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host. JEFF YURTIN
2. scrounger: somebody or something that exploits others without doing anything in return. (swimmingpoolsetc - golfclubsetc)


PAY REAL CLOSE ATTENTION HERE a*****e

Racist,.. racist
1. PREDJUDICE AGAINST ALL PEOPLE WHO BELONG TO OTHER RACES.

JIFF, I WILL ADMIT I THINK YOU ARE A PIECE OF s**t, NO QUESTION. BUT UNFORTUNETLY FOR YOUR DUMB a*s YOU ARE WHITE, YOU ARE NOT OF ANOTHER RACE, OR COLOUR. AND IT SAY'S NOTHING ABOUT PARASITES?

2. racist person: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race. YES, I HATE YOU, BUT Incase you haven't noticed OJ Yurtin, your WHITE/s**t STAIN

Libel. libel

1. defamation: a false and malicious published statement that damages somebody's reputation. Libel can include pictures and any other representations that have public or permanent form.

Like Jeff accusing others of: Racism, Suicide, Drug Addict, etc. etc.

2. attacking of somebody's reputation: the making of false and damaging statements about somebody.

All information on this site has been backed with PROOF, dumb s**t. You have not, hence, YOU'RE THE ONE BEING SUED.


Fraud frawd

1. (crime of cheating somebody:) the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception. JEFF URIN and his businesses.

2. (somebody who deceives:) somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain. yep, that would be you, JEFF YURTIN

3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people. Jeff's web sites pertaining to his businesses and false accusations of, VIP Customer Service, Low Prices, backed by astronomical shipping charges, Return Policy, Restocking Fees, etc., etc., etc.
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#9 Consumer Comment

JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Jeff,

I have pasted actual dictionary meanings of words you throw around without a d**n clue as to what they mean. Get some help, they would not let me use crayons to write this.

You're an Uneducated Neanderthal, who is physically and mentally challenge, an embarrassment to the human race, hence, you are 41, single, lonely, a looser and angry as hell for being a mirror image of Barney Fife, sporting a boiler, a severe nasal problem and a wretched set of teeth.

PROOF 1. conclusive evidence: evidence or an argument that serves to establish a fact or the truth of something.

Have you anything with concrete evidence of the claims you make against me and others?- emails? NO. I, and others displayed your pathetic BBB record. I gave a website address for people to see the pathetic parasite that you are.

UP UNTILL THEN, YOU GAURANTEED, DENIED, AND SWORE THESE WERE ALL LIES. EVEN YOUR DUMB a*s WENT TO THE SITE WITH THOSE BEEDY RED EYES, THIS WAS IN FACT PUBLIC INFORMATION, OOOPS. BUSTED

ACORDING TO THE PARASITE: NEVER BEEN ACUSED OF RAPE, BEEN TO JAIL, BEEN SUED, BAD CHECKS, HORRIBLE BBB, OH, AND I CONTACTED THE BBB AND TOLD THEM IF THEY DID NOT RE-POST YOUR UPDATED BBB IN THE NEXT WEEK, THEY WERE GOING TO BE REPORTED TO THE DISTRICT ATOURNEYS OFFICE. NICE TRY A-HOLE.

Shaun Odonahue was an employee of yours for two years and came on this site informing people of the type of business you run, backed by responses from customers and people who have dealt with you.

You're rebuttals prove you are beyond medical help, and that you will say or due anything to deny the TRUTH, to protect your pathetic self and unethical businesses. It's called SELF-DENIAL. Wake up d**k, It's over.

Parasite, parasite
1. organism living on another: a human or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host. JEFF YURTIN
2. scrounger: somebody or something that exploits others without doing anything in return. (swimmingpoolsetc - golfclubsetc)


PAY REAL CLOSE ATTENTION HERE a*****e

Racist,.. racist
1. PREDJUDICE AGAINST ALL PEOPLE WHO BELONG TO OTHER RACES.

JIFF, I WILL ADMIT I THINK YOU ARE A PIECE OF s**t, NO QUESTION. BUT UNFORTUNETLY FOR YOUR DUMB a*s YOU ARE WHITE, YOU ARE NOT OF ANOTHER RACE, OR COLOUR. AND IT SAY'S NOTHING ABOUT PARASITES?

2. racist person: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race. YES, I HATE YOU, BUT Incase you haven't noticed OJ Yurtin, your WHITE/s**t STAIN

Libel. libel

1. defamation: a false and malicious published statement that damages somebody's reputation. Libel can include pictures and any other representations that have public or permanent form.

Like Jeff accusing others of: Racism, Suicide, Drug Addict, etc. etc.

2. attacking of somebody's reputation: the making of false and damaging statements about somebody.

All information on this site has been backed with PROOF, dumb s**t. You have not, hence, YOU'RE THE ONE BEING SUED.


Fraud frawd

1. (crime of cheating somebody:) the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception. JEFF URIN and his businesses.

2. (somebody who deceives:) somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain. yep, that would be you, JEFF YURTIN

3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people. Jeff's web sites pertaining to his businesses and false accusations of, VIP Customer Service, Low Prices, backed by astronomical shipping charges, Return Policy, Restocking Fees, etc., etc., etc.
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#10 Consumer Comment

JEFF URIN, LIAR, UNETHICAL PARASITE www.swimmingpoolsetc.com

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Jeff,

I have pasted actual dictionary meanings of words you throw around without a d**n clue as to what they mean. Get some help, they would not let me use crayons to write this.

You're an Uneducated Neanderthal, who is physically and mentally challenge, an embarrassment to the human race, hence, you are 41, single, lonely, a looser and angry as hell for being a mirror image of Barney Fife, sporting a boiler, a severe nasal problem and a wretched set of teeth.

PROOF 1. conclusive evidence: evidence or an argument that serves to establish a fact or the truth of something.

Have you anything with concrete evidence of the claims you make against me and others?- emails? NO. I, and others displayed your pathetic BBB record. I gave a website address for people to see the pathetic parasite that you are.

UP UNTILL THEN, YOU GAURANTEED, DENIED, AND SWORE THESE WERE ALL LIES. EVEN YOUR DUMB a*s WENT TO THE SITE WITH THOSE BEEDY RED EYES, THIS WAS IN FACT PUBLIC INFORMATION, OOOPS. BUSTED

ACORDING TO THE PARASITE: NEVER BEEN ACUSED OF RAPE, BEEN TO JAIL, BEEN SUED, BAD CHECKS, HORRIBLE BBB, OH, AND I CONTACTED THE BBB AND TOLD THEM IF THEY DID NOT RE-POST YOUR UPDATED BBB IN THE NEXT WEEK, THEY WERE GOING TO BE REPORTED TO THE DISTRICT ATOURNEYS OFFICE. NICE TRY A-HOLE.

Shaun Odonahue was an employee of yours for two years and came on this site informing people of the type of business you run, backed by responses from customers and people who have dealt with you.

You're rebuttals prove you are beyond medical help, and that you will say or due anything to deny the TRUTH, to protect your pathetic self and unethical businesses. It's called SELF-DENIAL. Wake up d**k, It's over.

Parasite, parasite
1. organism living on another: a human or animal that lives on or in another, usually larger, host organism in a way that harms or is of no advantage to the host. JEFF YURTIN
2. scrounger: somebody or something that exploits others without doing anything in return. (swimmingpoolsetc - golfclubsetc)


PAY REAL CLOSE ATTENTION HERE a*****e

Racist,.. racist
1. PREDJUDICE AGAINST ALL PEOPLE WHO BELONG TO OTHER RACES.

JIFF, I WILL ADMIT I THINK YOU ARE A PIECE OF s**t, NO QUESTION. BUT UNFORTUNETLY FOR YOUR DUMB a*s YOU ARE WHITE, YOU ARE NOT OF ANOTHER RACE, OR COLOUR. AND IT SAY'S NOTHING ABOUT PARASITES?

2. racist person: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race. YES, I HATE YOU, BUT Incase you haven't noticed OJ Yurtin, your WHITE/s**t STAIN

Libel. libel

1. defamation: a false and malicious published statement that damages somebody's reputation. Libel can include pictures and any other representations that have public or permanent form.

Like Jeff accusing others of: Racism, Suicide, Drug Addict, etc. etc.

2. attacking of somebody's reputation: the making of false and damaging statements about somebody.

All information on this site has been backed with PROOF, dumb s**t. You have not, hence, YOU'RE THE ONE BEING SUED.


Fraud frawd

1. (crime of cheating somebody:) the crime of obtaining money or some other benefit by deliberate deception. JEFF URIN and his businesses.

2. (somebody who deceives:) somebody who deliberately deceives somebody else, usually for financial gain. yep, that would be you, JEFF YURTIN

3. something intended to deceive: something that is intended to deceive people. Jeff's web sites pertaining to his businesses and false accusations of, VIP Customer Service, Low Prices, backed by astronomical shipping charges, Return Policy, Restocking Fees, etc., etc., etc.
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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

THE PROFESSIONAL RANDY VERES RACIST EMAILS BELOW AND WHY HE IS UPSET, READ THE LAST EMAIL IT SAYS IT ALL! GUESS THE LAST PART WAS A LIE!

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Why did First Data fire you randall? These emails and more came from you calling me racist names, i am forwading your emails and your name and address to the NAACP, you can twist it any way you like, your the one calling me these names and your the one that sent them, thats why first data fired you. I have personally heard you call me racist names.
You wont control who i buy from or how much money I make in the future randall, see I am not unemployed like your self looking for work. Get off your a*s and get a job loser.








I'm switching you to White Trash, Niger is to good for you. How come your self proclaimed, uneducated and misspelled blaster emails sound similar to the responses you use on ripoffreport.com. Try something original assf**ker. You are pathetic and predictable, that guy Mike figured your crooked a*s out in 1 whole email. You are white trash and sound just like all the other assf**kers that try and defend their pathetic business habits on that site, you are a f**king looser.

Now go pay your venders and get your f**king taxes done, a*****e.

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off

Hey, Senior-Phucko,

Tax Returns b***h............................ and buy the way, you did know about that incident at the hotel when I was playing; it was you and Jeffrey Dommer getting it on with a couple of Asian boys......a*s JUICE.

Your pool cleaner SUCKS...talk about used car salesman, you scum bags in the pool industry selling cheap a*s plastic that does nothing more than stir dirt at the bottom of your pool. "Charge Back n***a"

Hugs & Kisses

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off

Your out of your league, go back to the beer league and arguing with those soon to be ex employees.
How many times do I have to tell you...send the emails.. I dare you. I would love nothing more than to put the information packets I have put together about you into the hands of people you have f**ked, my god Jeffrey the look on their faces when they see this stuff, talk about web posting. That doesn't include the IRS or State packets I have put together to help them out on their audits, both have hot lines you can call to report suspicious people, Jeffrey it's my civil duty, you think that last check was no big deal, then you won't mind donating lots more.

Remember, I just pound pavement, their are plenty of processors willing to hire someone who signs over a 100 million a year in accounts, that's the least of my worries. But you on the otherhand well let's just say you picked the wrong person to f**k with. And the best part about it is, it's perfectly legal to report and give public information, what they decide to do with it is up to them? and since your so well liked you have nothing to worry about.

Now, you rightfully owe me a G4..... Since I am a paying customer and did not have the smartest sales person to deal with when ordering the cleaner. I want the situation resolved like any other paying customer. I will even send that piece of s**t back. If I do not receive my cleaner by Friday. Next week more than likely you will have a few angry dads with kids knocking on your door, which will be the least of your problems.

Hopefully the last time I need to deal with you ever again, have a nice life,........ball is in your court



Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off

And this is your second warning, quite sending me emails.



Sincerely,

Jeff Yurtin

WWW Development Inc.

3667 Omec Park Dr. Ste. 1

Rancho Cordova, CA. 95742



WWW.DEVELOPMENTINC.COM








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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 8:20 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: [Spam] RE: White Trash




Must have hit a nerve b***h, I like it, Go ahead send the e-mails I don't give a s**t!

Nobody ever expects Professional a*s f**kers to own up to anything, and your a liar to boot, date on your last response to the ripoffreport you sack of s**t. What Excuse now a*****e?

Rebuttal REBUTTAL Owner of company
Submitted: 1/18/2005 9:51:03 PM Modified: 1/18/2005 11:57:49 PM



False accusations and not even by the employee as is being said!




I Jeff Yurtin contacted the above named employee Shaun O'donoghue who now works for General Pool & Spa (916)853-2400 and asked him if he posted this saying.





Of course he posted it you stupid f**k, did you try and threaten him he would loose his job at the better company. Your rebuttals are weak and pathetic, I notice you didn't try and defend the part about not paying your venders a*****e.

OK, enough, you know your a piece of angry s**t and wants nothing more to be a somebody, won't happen, and I don't respond to liars and their made up stories. (see above)

That $44k is just the beginning and the $700 wouldn't be their either if you paid your vendors scum bag. You have forgotten one thing a*****e, I know your pathetic D&B score that says it all about you and paying people, and I also know your pathetic FICA score, those two pretty much sum you up. Keep buying toys to give the impression of money b***h, but I know the real truth.

Don't ever try and threaten me f**ker, I will bring you down like the piece of s**t you are, and I will do it with the truth a*****e; not made up s**t, I know one thing assholes HATE THE TRUTH.

I am getting bored with your stupid a*s, if you want one of the many copies of your dog s**t, you send a first class return envelope, b***h.
and if your real nice about it, and I think your sincere, I mite not have these packages of information about you sent to the IRS along with additional information for them to look into, or maybe one to the APSP about your trying to bribe someone with cash to hitch that retarded plan of yours. Maybe even a few would like to know the owner of www.i will sell and f**k anyone to make a buck.com is a child pedafiler, but was never convicted (only because her dad was a crack head) of f**king a 16 year old girl. I bet your boyfriend Shaun would love that information.

These are not threats sugar they are the truth, and if I were to share the truth in a casual conversation that wouldn't be a crime, the part about the girl is public records, I am looking at a report rite now, it's amazing what you can buy these days over the internet. It also has some other stuff I think the people in your industry your so warm and fuzzy with would like to know.

Now Disappear Scumbag.

PS. Still waiting for that G4,,,It should be here Wed? Shouldn't It ??????









Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off



"Jeff Yurtin"

07/03/2005 09:44 AM
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Losing things to say pathetic suicidal punk from AZ. Taxes are done and vendors are paid. Now go make some money so you don't have to move to Idaho. Or where is the next stop? Loser, you are, misspelled words, yes, what is this randall you are a f**king looser (copied from you below), your right learn how to spell you f**king loser. I don't even know a Mike and I have not written on that ripoffreport.com in over two years. People just post s**t about other people on there dumbass, anybody can write anything about anyone, hmmm, sounds like a credible business to me. Type in the owners name, he is like you a drug addicted, suicidal, depressed a*****e. He has been convicted of numerous drug offenses and is in hiding in, you guessed it AZ. I guess all scumbags move there after they have to move from the state they like. Or let me guess you like it 115 all day long, jackass. People go to AZ for the winter, not to live loser, did I spell that right randall. Self proclaimed, you're the one that told me your suicidal, I didn't make that up, and everyone knows you're an a*****e, like I said you don't have any friends here, I was the closest thing you had to a friend and always had my reservations about you. See true friends call one another to just check in and see how the other one is doing; your dumb a*s would call only to try and work me for business, and obviously you f**ked up my accounts last time you touched them and I didn't want that happening this year regardless of a lousy discount, ya see randy I have about 700k in the bank, 8k doesn't mean a whole lot to me, and the 700k is after 44k the irs just cashed for the first 6 months this year, I can send you the copy of the canceled check because I know you wont believe me, and the taxes are done, ha ha, your not getting those though b***h. But looks like you got worked, thanks for the wireless b***h. Hope you didn't spend too much time on getting this deal done or working on your pool cleaner, you dumb f**k. Now go put your jersey on backwards and go throw some batting practice b***h, that's all you were good for.

You are to return all documents that have been sent to you regarding my financial and personal information. If you don't I will turn all these emails over to your boss for harassment and you are to stop sending me emails other than to correspond with the returning of all my documents. Let me know that I will have them sent to me by next Friday or I will find your boss and his/her boss if I have to, you want to play randall?


Sincerely,
Jeff Yurtin
WWW Development Inc.
3667 Omec Park Dr. Ste. 1
Rancho Cordova, CA. 95742

WWW.DEVELOPMENTINC.COM







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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:34 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: RE: White Trash


I'm switching you to White Trash, Niger is to good for you. How come your self proclaimed, uneducated and misspelled blaster emails sound similar to the responses you use on ripoffreport.com. Try something original assf**ker. You are pathetic and predictable, that guy Mike figured your crooked a*s out in 1 whole email. You are white trash and sound just like all the other assf**kers that try and defend their pathetic business habits on that site, you are a f**king looser.

Now go pay your venders and get your f**king taxes done, a*****e.

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off


First off retard, you didn't pay attention, it was not stolen you f**king IDIOT, it was a point, as usual you missed it, and just because you write something off doesn't mean it doesn't come out of your pocket lip shits- especially for dumb asses who can't get their taxes done.

How pathetic are you, I did not give the information to help lower your rates with Nova you f**king idiot, so I guess according to your method I can now go to Jerry at SPP and not only give him the rate but inform him about your little plan(f**king Napoleon) about ruling the pool world, hey, It's not my fault your D&B is so pathetic. Thank God I had a back-up plan.

You USED my information verbally or otherwise to lower your rates, are you that stupid that you think it makes a difference how you did it, the POINT IS you went behind my back p***k. And only a degenerate would thank GOD for that, you really need professional help!

The reason for needing more information dip-s**t is you had the worst D&B score the credit officer had seen in his 15 years , spin it any way you want a*s hole that means your not paying people. PERIOD. So when you say you earned the money you mite want to talk to the many businesses on your D&B list that would say otherwise...... thief.

Oh, and yes I agree, you did want to send me your Chinese vibrator. Only Jeff would expect a $700 terminal in trade for a cleaner that cost you $75. But hey, that's expected from you and that's why every one in your industry wants to rip your head off. It's all about you, f**k everyone else. And it's not my fault you don't know your own product d**k, it's your industry you should have known that 360 was not the rite cleaner, hell everyone else I talked to did. I guess that's what happens when you spend most of your time concentrating on f**king people.

And don't worry dirt-bag I would never lower myself to your prehistoric frog s**t level and use information that was meant for me ONLY and use it for my gain, and that includes giving him those rates. Now that is something you can THANK GOD ABOUT, you stupid a*s-hole

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off
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#12 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Order number and full name please..

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Please include your order number and full name if you have a legitimate complaint. I wont be answer the personal attacks, anyone can get alias email and names on here, but with a full name and order number I can help anyone out that has a legitimate problem.

Have a great day.
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#13 Consumer Comment

No Part # Jeff Urin-- Only Your Case #93F03991 Sexual Assault of A 15 year old Girl

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Hey Idiot,

It is nice to know that readers are intelligent enough to recognize a lying sack of worthless s**t.

You are a useless boil on the a*s of society.

You are a Cheesy self-centered d**k who believes readers are to stupid to read between the lines. You come on here talking s**t you cannot back up. Lies about honest people who were just looking to get what they paid for. Then, ACT as if you got money, does every one as rich as you Jeff have such lousy credit or a Dunn and Bradstreet report so pathetic a credit officer could not believe you were still in business.

You're a washed up BEER LEAGURE who was hated by his own DAD till the day he passed on, your brother has done 5 times the JAIL time as you, but is still well liked by people in general, how odd he hates you too. My guess, it is probably because you sold your parent's house when your dad died, screwed him and your mom out of their share, and then stuck your mom in a trailer park.

Moreover, do not worry about the name a*****e, you know.

Your claims about racism are about to take a turn for the worse as far as you are concerned.

You used the fate of people white and black, who suffered and died, for equal opportunity.
You have plastered this site with lies of me being a racist, knowing full well that I have more friends of different color than white; you plagiarized emails to try to get me fired, all so JEFF could try and win a battle your pathetic a*s brought on your own self.

You are about to feel the pain of racism a*****e. In a couple of months, you will not be able to purchase rubber dog s**t out of Hong Kong. Vendors will not touch your a*s with a ten-foot pole.

See Jiff, the NAACP does not take to kindly to a white OJ Simpson using their struggles, and hundreds of years of oppression like it's some phucking JOKE, they tend to take it seriously.

Open wide b***h. It is time.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Oh My God

AUTHOR: Lisa - (U.S.A.)

What a suprise,the foul mouthed Jeff has his Mom living in a trailer home? He said he was going to buy a 2 million dollar home in the Hills for himself, and what about all those cars (paid off)are you a drug dealer? Sell a car and upgrade her to a Cracker Jack Box you selfish piece of s**t. Only in America would we have a washed up thought he could play ball self made f*g, ripping the clothes off a 15 yr old, it was probably a little boy for all we know.
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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres from AZ or Randy Veres from Folsom?

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Just need your order number and date of order to help you out. Why are you so scared to put your full name on here, is this Randy Veres? Please provide full name and order number for help with your order.
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#16 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres from AZ or Randy Veres from Folsom?

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Just need your order number and date of order to help you out. Why are you so scared to put your full name on here, is this Randy Veres? Please provide full name and order number for help with your order.
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#17 Consumer Comment

SWIMMINGPOOLSETC, JEFF URIN OWNER PARASITE

AUTHOR: Randall - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jiff,

You know it, I know it, and any one that knows you, and me, and has half a brain knows; that I can roll you up in a ball and spit you out in the gutter. I already told you, your day is coming, so save the tough guy act 800 miles away PUNK.

Get me the name of that guy who forced you to put your p***s in that 15 year old and I will start ripping his a*s; until then, SHUT YOUR CAKE HOLE PARASITE.

Please don't tell me the self-proclaimed great, and unbelievably wealthy JIFF URIN is such a stupid a*s you thought I could not prove you did jail time for rape and have legitimate law suites Yeah, I know. More people out to screw great business people like you're self, Hugh Hefner, Donald Trump, etc., etc.

That s**t was funny, I am going to use that. almost as funny as Robert from NC slammin your a*s to the mat with that retarded rebuttle of yours comparing buying a new car with a $50 pool part, or regarding your inspection policy, really put a lot of thought into that didn't ya Mr. Wizard.

Moreover, how about you step-in up to the plate, a whole $50 in store credit, boy Jeff, that should just about cover half the shipping charges you mark up 150%. I'm sure Robert is busy typing away, praising you for making him the first customer to ever receive a credit from your crooked a*s. Should be posting any day now.

Then after he INTELEGENTLY refutes every one of your lame excuses for your pathetic customer service (were only as good as are manufactures) That's why you're such an idiot, you missed the point, as usual. You would be out of your depth in a parking lot puddle. IDIOT


Since you obviously went to www.saccourt.com and made your typical worthless comments on this site, you have proven you are the b***h I have warned everyone about. Have your lawyer (i.e. YOU), chew on that PUNK.

Jiff, if you want to sue someone, sue your nurse their at the home of the mentally-retarded for bogart-in your anti psychotic drugs. Are you shitin me, you are comparing your pathetic self-absorbed problems with two of the wealthiest men in California. You are MENTAL.

Hey Jiff, I bet Chuck Peterson doesn't have his mom holed up in some grungy trailer park like you, I bet Chuck could qualify for an account at FD, because he pays his bills, unlike you. I bet Chuck did not do jail time for being a slimy parasite like you.

And I would bet my life that Chuck Peterson does not spend his Sundays calling managers at First Data on their cell phones, (at home) crying like a little b***h about $25 dollars being debited from his account that caused him to bounce checks.

SELF- PROCLAIMED BIG BANK HANK still bouncing those checks like rubber dog s**t.
YOU GO GIRL

In all seriousness Jiff, you need some professional help, I know your to cheap to pay for health insurance but you could get a few visits in; two maybe three different psychotherapist before the word gets out your checks bounce.
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#18 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Type these names in randall veres

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Carl Panattoni, Chuck Peterson, type in any business professional and you will find some scum bag trying to suck money from them like you. These guys are great business professionals but have had legal battles as well. For me, I have not had one dime taken from any bank account from the 4 civil cases you posted, two of the four are the same case, all have lost the case against me, what does that tell you randy, let me guess you cannot figure it out, it says they sued and they where wrong!!! Go beat your wife or kids, or better yet, just do what you have told me you wanted to to all along, committ suicide, just do it randy and save your children and wife your pathetic life, you cant hold a job, let see how many car dealerships, (where you belong) how many get rich quick scams, how many Lowes, how many credit processors have you worked for in the short 10 years since baseball? About 10 different jobs, including your failed tanning salon randy, what a joke, lets see you respond to this, answer some questions instead of just posting things you loser. I have! Oh, do you have a last name yet b***h? Now go chew on that awhile you p***y. Tell your hag wife you will be losing money soon because of all these postings you put on here. Stay tuned people, this is my last posting other than if a real customer has an issue WITH an order number.
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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

My last posting for Randy Veres, my last writing on here didnt get posted, so this is it.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hey is this Randy Veres I am responding to, or are you a coward and too afraid to put your real name on here p***y? Dont use some poor excuse, other than you really are afraid of me right randy! I know you wont put your full name on here, the mad rapist might get you right? Your just a low life living in AZ, why do you put your from folsom? You wish you lived in folsom but remember you couldnt afford it here. At least I dont have to live with my parents with kids Randy, speaking of losers! Plus those accusations against me where dropped that your talking about, look at the file, and no felony randall, so your posting more lies about me. Keep them coming, you really dont get it do you and how much this is going to cost you. You keep posting the same thing over and over, why? Randy, three people have seen this out of about 40 million pool owners, good luck on taking sales away, its not going to happen, I have a great site, great employees, and great vendors that help me, I just organized it randall, try it and you can make some money, only problem is it takes WORK. I am done with this site once and for all, anybody, feel free to blast away, if you have a order number or actual problem with an order I will respond. But you must put your order number on this site or I will not respond anymore, the people that run this site think they are doing justice but its really no more than a site for people like randy veres that are unhappy with their life to try and bring somoene down, all because they lost a business deal with me and ultimately lost his job. I have a great job with 4 businesses and make a alot of money. I own my own house, own my own commercial building, paid off, plus other properties and ventures. Have three cars unlike randy a Mercedes S500, GMC Denali, and a Chrysler 300, all of these cars are paid off, and the only reason I am posting this is to piss randy off, material things really dont matter that much, I enjoy the finer things in life but i realize that cars or houses do not make the person. I work d**n hard and I have earned those things. Randy I suggest you take a page from here. Get off your butt and get a job. But randy wont post his/her last name or his employer, why, because he is a racist person and a low life, with no job and does not support his kids.
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#20 Consumer Comment

WRONG WEB-ADD POSTED FOR RAPIST JEFF YURTIN WWW.SACCOURT.COM

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

The correct site to see Jeffs criminal cases' is www.saccourt.com

Sorry Jiff, I know how much of a stickler you are when it comes to the truth, wouldn't want your dream team of lawyers over at Pre-Paid Legal Services bustin my chops now!

Right hand side you will see SERVICES. Click on Criminal Case Index.

Down at the bottom you will see, (Proceed to the Search System)Click on that.

That first box that says Last Name: Yurtin
First Name: Jeff

Click on search.

Then, click on Select: Senior Scumbags case information will come up, it will not mention the type of case, that is illegal for them to post that. But, you will see FELONY (60 days Jail) and (4 yrs probation.) Only in America can a scumbag do 60 for rape, pretty sad.

Go back to the page where you typed Jiffs name in; down at the bottom left you will see (Other Case Types) click on that. Then click on (Proceed to the Index) Type in Jeff Yurtin - Select Case Type (Civil or Small Claims) he has 4 cases in each. What A Great Guy, huh!


If anyone investigates this PARASITE; go back and read Jiffs blatant lies about how none of this is true, everyone is on drugs, suicidal, jealous, or what ever else that PUNK can make up. He will go as low as it takes to divert the attention away from him and his pathetic business and life style, poor wittle Jiff, everyone out to p***k him.

What about that girl Jiff? And her dad that came over throwing bricks at your windows, screaming for you to come out side so he could kill you, all the CUSTOMERS and VENDORS you s**t on every day? No Big Deal huh, tuff s**t, right.

ROT IN HELL LOOSER.
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#21 Consumer Comment

JEFF YURTIN RAPE CASE (#93F03991) LIAR.. SWIMMINGPOOLSETC OWNER

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Would someone go to www.sacourt.com on the right hand side under SERVICES click on (Criminal Case Index) Type in last name: Yurtin, Jeff. Then click (select) then details. BINGO, that is Mr. 60 days in jail for rape.

This scumbag 31 at the time did 60 measly days in jail for jacking up a 15-year-old girl. What if that was your daughter? This is no joke or an attempt to muddy someones reputation, go to the fricking site and see for yourself.

Get a clue people; this person is a pathetic piece of s**t that will say or due anything to cover his pathetic a*s. Someone go to this site and post what you see, if for any other reason than to shut this idiot up.

JEFF YURTIN (SWIMMINGPOOLSETC.COM) YOU ARE A PATHETIC PIECE OF HUMAN WAIST. AFTER YOU FINISH WITH JEFFS RAPE CASE BACK OUT, GO TO THE FOLLOWING AREA, AND SEE MORE OF THIS PARASITES GOOD DEEDS.

Criminal Case Index System
OTHER CASE TYPES

Proceed to the Index

Enter Party or Business Name: Jeff Yurtin
Select a Case Type: Small Claims/Civil should be 4 in each area.
Select a Starting Filing Year: 1993
Select an Ending Filing Year: 2005
Click: Begin Search


Have a great day Jeff, more to come.
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#22 Consumer Suggestion

Was a Customer!

AUTHOR: Lisa - (U.S.A.)

Back In 2004 I had the worst experience with wholesalepoolsupplies which has switched to swimmingpoolsetc, I did not get my product for at least 2 months but my credit card was charged the day I ordered. When I phoned to check on my order I was told it had shipped, four days later no valid tracking # was availeable. I called again to speak with the owner who said his name was Jeff. By far the most un-pleaseant male to walk the face of the earth. For a buisness owner he was very rude and foul mouthed, calling me a b***h and treating me like a kid on the phone. I happen to see this posting when looking for Pool Company's not to buy from and thought this was ironic to find the same guy BSing his way out of being a bad human. From the previouse comments on here it sounds like I'm not the first to be ripped off by this Jeff Yurtin.
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#23 Consumer Comment

Wow! Better than pro rasslin'

AUTHOR: Dick - (U.S.A.)

d**n! This is like a steel cage death match. You were wondering how Doug found this thread. Maybe like me, just scrolling through the newest reports and reading the ones that look like they might be interesting.

Jeff, some questions for you: what farm team did you guys play for? What level? I take it Randy was a pitcher. What was your position?

Keep us posted on the law suit. If it's for real, should be interesting.

If Randy sent those emails from a work computer, that was really dumb. It's grounds for dismissal. Is that what happened?
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#24 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You fraudulent fool....you just wait randy veres.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Your busted now Randy. I just recieved my First Data Merchant Application. The entire document was not filled out by me or any of my employees. It all appears to be in YOUR hand writing and you even signed my name. Your initials are next to your name and I did not sign any of these statements for my accounts to be debited. First Data has been contacted and you will be soon. Plus Folsom Police have been notified of your death threats and harm above along with your crony brother. We will see who has a record now randall!!!
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#25 REBUTTAL Owner of company

SPEAKING OF LIARS, REMEMBER WHEN YOU USED TO CHEAT ON TERI...

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Remember those days playing in the minors and majors when you used to cheat on your wife about getting blow jobs and f**king those whores in different cities Randall, remember telling me all the stories. I do. Bet you never told your wife about this now did you randall. Maybe you should take a look in the mirrow about calling someone else a parasite, scum bag and such. You know you cheated and lied to Teri and now its going to haunt you loser. Now go get a job b***h and get off unemployment. Or are you still trying to sue those drug companies for your oxy addiction, what an a*****e you are. I guess they opened your mouth and forced those pills down your throat huh randall. Or when you tried to sue the last professional baseball team you played with. When all else fails, sue em right randy. What a pathetic failure you are!!!!!
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#26 REBUTTAL Owner of company

I agree Doug...

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

What am I suppose to do just let him post lies about me, I have to respond. At least I can type and spell and don't have to use profanity to get my message across like Randy Veres does. Just curious Doug, how did you get to this thread?
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#27 Consumer Suggestion

Just too funny!!!

AUTHOR: Doug - (U.S.A.)

This is the funniest sring I have ssen in a long time!!

What a couple of idiots!!!!!
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#28 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres, I see why your upset, your still unemployed because of the RACIST remarks!!

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Sorry to see your lazy vicodin taking butt is still unemployed. Wow, bet Teri is pissed about that seeing how you dont even provide for your kids or help out. Hey there is always Home Depot or Lowes, remember your last employer in Folsom. Maybe they will hire you back, but NA I doubt it, your a RACIST PERSON. Its 2005 and your still holding grudges against the African race, what a shame Randy. I will have to hold off on sending my mailer until you have a job. But I will be sending these emails to all Human Resources of these fine Pharmacuetical Companies, is yours listed here Randy? They are all being sent a letter regarding your integrity and racist thoughts.

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#29 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Randy,
Making up some of this stuff and posting it is going to cost you. Never had a bad check and never have owned a BMW or ever wrote a check to Niello, matter of fact I have never even been in Niello to even look at cars. Sac sheriff, yes when i moved to my new building that i own i had false alarms at my other address and they didnt have the new address to send to, that has been paid in full to date, contact them. Visonic.... dont know who that is and Sharon, never had any cases against me or any collection for not paying a tenant. I have never been to court for any of the charges, show results Randy, dont just type stuff up. The only true one is the ABF freight and I did not have an account with them and someone sent back a heater and charged us through ABF, I refused to pay it because there was no discount applied and I did not authorize the shipping from the customer. That Dollar a foot guy, he ended up paying me money randy, remember he was the guy that lost the building i bought and he tried to sue me for not renting to him. He lost alot of money to me and he ended up losing his building and all 8 acres attached because he couldnt get power out to his gates for his RV rental. He messed with me randy and ended up in court having to show. We filed numberous depositions on him, and yours are coming. Anyway, you just wait Randy. I am now sending a mass mailer to all Dr. offices and dental offices in the state of AZ letting them know your racial letters/intents and your true colors. Just imagine when you try to show up selling your bullshit pharmacuetical s**t and they know your a RACIST person. I was going to let this all slide Randy but now I am going to hire an attorney and do the mailing. Its going to cost you a bundle, money you dont have kid. Going to hit you where it hurts the most in your wallet. Good Luck. Tell Teri and the kids I said HI...
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#30 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Randy,
Making up some of this stuff and posting it is going to cost you. Never had a bad check and never have owned a BMW or ever wrote a check to Niello, matter of fact I have never even been in Niello to even look at cars. Sac sheriff, yes when i moved to my new building that i own i had false alarms at my other address and they didnt have the new address to send to, that has been paid in full to date, contact them. Visonic.... dont know who that is and Sharon, never had any cases against me or any collection for not paying a tenant. I have never been to court for any of the charges, show results Randy, dont just type stuff up. The only true one is the ABF freight and I did not have an account with them and someone sent back a heater and charged us through ABF, I refused to pay it because there was no discount applied and I did not authorize the shipping from the customer. That Dollar a foot guy, he ended up paying me money randy, remember he was the guy that lost the building i bought and he tried to sue me for not renting to him. He lost alot of money to me and he ended up losing his building and all 8 acres attached because he couldnt get power out to his gates for his RV rental. He messed with me randy and ended up in court having to show. We filed numberous depositions on him, and yours are coming. Anyway, you just wait Randy. I am now sending a mass mailer to all Dr. offices and dental offices in the state of AZ letting them know your racial letters/intents and your true colors. Just imagine when you try to show up selling your bullshit pharmacuetical s**t and they know your a RACIST person. I was going to let this all slide Randy but now I am going to hire an attorney and do the mailing. Its going to cost you a bundle, money you dont have kid. Going to hit you where it hurts the most in your wallet. Good Luck. Tell Teri and the kids I said HI...
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#31 REBUTTAL Owner of company

You have my full attention now Randy, I will be spending the next couple days working with my attorney.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Randy,
Making up some of this stuff and posting it is going to cost you. Never had a bad check and never have owned a BMW or ever wrote a check to Niello, matter of fact I have never even been in Niello to even look at cars. Sac sheriff, yes when i moved to my new building that i own i had false alarms at my other address and they didnt have the new address to send to, that has been paid in full to date, contact them. Visonic.... dont know who that is and Sharon, never had any cases against me or any collection for not paying a tenant. I have never been to court for any of the charges, show results Randy, dont just type stuff up. The only true one is the ABF freight and I did not have an account with them and someone sent back a heater and charged us through ABF, I refused to pay it because there was no discount applied and I did not authorize the shipping from the customer. That Dollar a foot guy, he ended up paying me money randy, remember he was the guy that lost the building i bought and he tried to sue me for not renting to him. He lost alot of money to me and he ended up losing his building and all 8 acres attached because he couldnt get power out to his gates for his RV rental. He messed with me randy and ended up in court having to show. We filed numberous depositions on him, and yours are coming. Anyway, you just wait Randy. I am now sending a mass mailer to all Dr. offices and dental offices in the state of AZ letting them know your racial letters/intents and your true colors. Just imagine when you try to show up selling your bullshit pharmacuetical s**t and they know your a RACIST person. I was going to let this all slide Randy but now I am going to hire an attorney and do the mailing. Its going to cost you a bundle, money you dont have kid. Going to hit you where it hurts the most in your wallet. Good Luck. Tell Teri and the kids I said HI...
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#32 Consumer Comment

JEFF YURTIN- WELCH - RAPIST - LIAR- PARASITE

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Cleaning Greg Vaughns carpets a*s-hole does not make you his buddy. I won't waist my time on your other retarded comments, that's just not my style to arguewith an idiot, you have way to much experience at being a liar and an a*s-f**ker.

I have proved my point b***h you are a gutless little p***y who has no morals, no
friends, no family, no girlfriend, no life your a LIAR, a RAPIST a WELCH and people in general flat out can't stand you!!!!! PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION

Know this! These truths were posted to WARN PEOPLE OF YOU AND YOUR CROOKED a*s BUSINESS.

And don't bother with your stupid a*s rebuttals I
have proved my point and it's time to move on.

THE PERSONAL BUSINESS I HAVE WITH YOU WILL NOT BE DEALT WITH OVER THE INTERNET c**t, DON'T KID YOURSELF INTO THINKING YOU HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH YOUR WEAK ATTEMPTS TO f**k ME, UNLIKE YOU I AM WELL LIKED AND ENDED UP FOR THE BETTER, BUT
YOU a*****e WILL NOT- YOU WILL FEEL MY RATH....I PROMISE. ALL IN GOOD TIME GRASS-HOPPER

PS
If any do scroll down this far, here is why this a*****e is hated by all who come in contact with him. He can Bump his gums like a typical little b***h, but can't pay his BILLS...Crooked a*s people get dealt with sooner or later....

Case Information:
Case Title: R. L. NIELLO CO. INC. VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 97SC02802
Case Type: Bad Checks
Parties on the Case:
NIELLO BMW(Doing Business As)
R. L. NIELLO CO. INC.(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: SACRAMENTO SHERIFF'S ALARM BUREAU VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 02SC02799
Case Type: Collection
Parties on the Case:
FLYING TIGERS SHIPPING(Doing Business As)
SACRAMENTO SHERIFF'S ALARM BUREAU(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, GEORGE(Also Known As)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: VISIONIC, INC. VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 03SC02841
Case Type: Collection
Parties on the Case:
SWIMMING POOLS, ETC./RANCHO CORDOVA(Doing Business As)
VISIONIC, INC.(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: BRAINARD, SHARON VS. YURTIN, GEORGE JEFFREY
Case Number: 02SC02438
Case Type: Landlord / Tenant Collection
Parties on the Case:
BRAINARD, SHARON(Plaintiff)
FLYING TIGER SHIPPING(Doing Business As)
YURTIN, GEORGE JEFFREY(Defendant)

Case Title: PROFESSIONAL COLLECTION CONSULTANTS VS. JEFFREY YURTIN
Case Number: 03AM04879
Case Type: Contract-Other Collection
Parties on the Case:
PROFESSIONAL COLLECTION CONSULTANTS (Plaintiff )
WU, SCOTT D. (Attorney for Plaintiff )
YURTIN, JEFFREY (Defendant )
Case Title: ABF FREIGHT SYSTEM, INC. VS. JEFF YURTIN, ET AL
Case Number: 01AM04086
Case Type: Contract-Other Collection
arties on the Case:
ABF FREIGHT SYSTEM, INC. (Plaintiff )
FLYING TIGERS SHIPPING (Defendant )
HAMILTON, CAROL R. (Attorney for Plaintiff )
URTIN, GEORGE, AKA (Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFF, AKA (Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFFREY GEORGE, IND/DBA (Defendant )


Case Title: DOLLAR A. FOOT RV & BOAT STORAGE VS. JEFF YURTIN
Case Number: 02AS05123
Case Type: PI - Other
Parties on the Case:
DOLLAR A FOOT RV & BOAT (Plaintiff Pro Per )
DOLLAR A FOOT RV AND BOAT STORAGE (Plaintiff & X-defendant )
EISELMAN, ROBERT (Attorney for Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFF (Defendant & Cross-complainant )
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#33 Consumer Comment

JEFF YURTIN- WELCH - RAPIST - LIAR- PARASITE

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Cleaning Greg Vaughns carpets a*s-hole does not make you his buddy. I won't waist my time on your other retarded comments, that's just not my style to arguewith an idiot, you have way to much experience at being a liar and an a*s-f**ker.

I have proved my point b***h you are a gutless little p***y who has no morals, no
friends, no family, no girlfriend, no life your a LIAR, a RAPIST a WELCH and people in general flat out can't stand you!!!!! PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION

Know this! These truths were posted to WARN PEOPLE OF YOU AND YOUR CROOKED a*s BUSINESS.

And don't bother with your stupid a*s rebuttals I
have proved my point and it's time to move on.

THE PERSONAL BUSINESS I HAVE WITH YOU WILL NOT BE DEALT WITH OVER THE INTERNET c**t, DON'T KID YOURSELF INTO THINKING YOU HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH YOUR WEAK ATTEMPTS TO f**k ME, UNLIKE YOU I AM WELL LIKED AND ENDED UP FOR THE BETTER, BUT
YOU a*****e WILL NOT- YOU WILL FEEL MY RATH....I PROMISE. ALL IN GOOD TIME GRASS-HOPPER

PS
If any do scroll down this far, here is why this a*****e is hated by all who come in contact with him. He can Bump his gums like a typical little b***h, but can't pay his BILLS...Crooked a*s people get dealt with sooner or later....

Case Information:
Case Title: R. L. NIELLO CO. INC. VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 97SC02802
Case Type: Bad Checks
Parties on the Case:
NIELLO BMW(Doing Business As)
R. L. NIELLO CO. INC.(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: SACRAMENTO SHERIFF'S ALARM BUREAU VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 02SC02799
Case Type: Collection
Parties on the Case:
FLYING TIGERS SHIPPING(Doing Business As)
SACRAMENTO SHERIFF'S ALARM BUREAU(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, GEORGE(Also Known As)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: VISIONIC, INC. VS. YURTIN, JEFF
Case Number: 03SC02841
Case Type: Collection
Parties on the Case:
SWIMMING POOLS, ETC./RANCHO CORDOVA(Doing Business As)
VISIONIC, INC.(Plaintiff)
YURTIN, JEFF(Defendant)

Case Title: BRAINARD, SHARON VS. YURTIN, GEORGE JEFFREY
Case Number: 02SC02438
Case Type: Landlord / Tenant Collection
Parties on the Case:
BRAINARD, SHARON(Plaintiff)
FLYING TIGER SHIPPING(Doing Business As)
YURTIN, GEORGE JEFFREY(Defendant)

Case Title: PROFESSIONAL COLLECTION CONSULTANTS VS. JEFFREY YURTIN
Case Number: 03AM04879
Case Type: Contract-Other Collection
Parties on the Case:
PROFESSIONAL COLLECTION CONSULTANTS (Plaintiff )
WU, SCOTT D. (Attorney for Plaintiff )
YURTIN, JEFFREY (Defendant )
Case Title: ABF FREIGHT SYSTEM, INC. VS. JEFF YURTIN, ET AL
Case Number: 01AM04086
Case Type: Contract-Other Collection
arties on the Case:
ABF FREIGHT SYSTEM, INC. (Plaintiff )
FLYING TIGERS SHIPPING (Defendant )
HAMILTON, CAROL R. (Attorney for Plaintiff )
URTIN, GEORGE, AKA (Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFF, AKA (Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFFREY GEORGE, IND/DBA (Defendant )


Case Title: DOLLAR A. FOOT RV & BOAT STORAGE VS. JEFF YURTIN
Case Number: 02AS05123
Case Type: PI - Other
Parties on the Case:
DOLLAR A FOOT RV & BOAT (Plaintiff Pro Per )
DOLLAR A FOOT RV AND BOAT STORAGE (Plaintiff & X-defendant )
EISELMAN, ROBERT (Attorney for Defendant )
YURTIN, JEFF (Defendant & Cross-complainant )
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#34 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres, speaking of your BUSTED UP FACE...

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

I remember when my buddy Greg Vaughn hit a line drive off your mug during a game!!! How sweet that was, bloodied your entire face and jersey. That crooked a*s nose has never been the same has it. The only next best hit you gave up was when I rifled one off your shoulder with about 8 others watching at On Deck...that was nice too, remember you had to shut it down and your arm was jacked up ever since. What was your lifetime era about 6.00 you batting practice, drug addicted, no job having fool...now go get in that black 91 tahoe and pound that pavement looking for a job kid.
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#35 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hi there!!

I need to know if I can get my records expunged in California? Back in 1998, I had been charged with possession and sale of marijuana. I was sentenced to county jail for 120 days. I was given probation for about 4 years and I have completed all the terms of my probation. My probation ended for the drug offense. In addition, I have paid my restitution in full. In 2002, I received a DUI and got 3 yrs of probation for that offense. It was charged as a misdeamenor. My probation for that ends on 9/1/05.

I was wondering if I can first of all, have my drug offense reduced to a misdeamenor and have it expunged. I am having so many problems trying to find a descent job. Every job I have applied for has turned me down due to my past criminal history. I have done the crime and paid my time. I dont know what else to do to try to rectify this situation. Can someone tell me what my options are, if I have any?

I know I have made some bad decisions but I am trying to make a better life for myself and my family. I have not had any other convictions or arrests after that incident.

sincerely
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#36 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hi there!!

I need to know if I can get my records expunged in California? Back in 1998, I had been charged with possession and sale of marijuana. I was sentenced to county jail for 120 days. I was given probation for about 4 years and I have completed all the terms of my probation. My probation ended for the drug offense. In addition, I have paid my restitution in full. In 2002, I received a DUI and got 3 yrs of probation for that offense. It was charged as a misdeamenor. My probation for that ends on 9/1/05.

I was wondering if I can first of all, have my drug offense reduced to a misdeamenor and have it expunged. I am having so many problems trying to find a descent job. Every job I have applied for has turned me down due to my past criminal history. I have done the crime and paid my time. I dont know what else to do to try to rectify this situation. Can someone tell me what my options are, if I have any?

I know I have made some bad decisions but I am trying to make a better life for myself and my family. I have not had any other convictions or arrests after that incident.

sincerely
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#37 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Randy Veres criminal record, is this you Randy Veres, just saw your criminal record on here.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hi there!!

I need to know if I can get my records expunged in California? Back in 1998, I had been charged with possession and sale of marijuana. I was sentenced to county jail for 120 days. I was given probation for about 4 years and I have completed all the terms of my probation. My probation ended for the drug offense. In addition, I have paid my restitution in full. In 2002, I received a DUI and got 3 yrs of probation for that offense. It was charged as a misdeamenor. My probation for that ends on 9/1/05.

I was wondering if I can first of all, have my drug offense reduced to a misdeamenor and have it expunged. I am having so many problems trying to find a descent job. Every job I have applied for has turned me down due to my past criminal history. I have done the crime and paid my time. I dont know what else to do to try to rectify this situation. Can someone tell me what my options are, if I have any?

I know I have made some bad decisions but I am trying to make a better life for myself and my family. I have not had any other convictions or arrests after that incident.

sincerely
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#38 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres called me the N word and he thinks that not RACISM. Christian right? What a joke you are. How many companies have you sued Randy Veres?

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

It seems your running out of new things to say Randy Veres of Arizona. You know whats funny? Not one remark above is from a customer of any of my businesses! They are all from ex employees or friends that I have fired or had fired! Why dont you put your full name on here, AFRAID? Guess you lost all your commissions when First Data fired you for the racial comments toward me, ouch that has to hurt! Boy hitting you in the pocket book is nice, but stay tuned, the law suit is going to cost you more. Lets talk about you suing baseball because of injuries, how pathetic is that. See I had a viral infection that paralyzed me at the time when I had to stop playing, but I never sued anyone did I, you on the other hand felt someone owed you because of an injury, what a jerk you are. Same with your addiction to drugs you feel that the drug companies are to blame, your suing them now right....this is what you told me. Gee Randy really? Take control of yourself and quite blaming others for all your failures. Take a note from me, when you get knocked on your a*s, get up and make things better. And yes we know I have been knocked on my a*s once or twice, but I am fine with it, it is what makes you stronger. Its time to be a man and so called father, I do feel sorry for your kids that what they are learning, sue someone if things dont work out! You use the word pathetic alot, it must be what you see every morning in the mirrow. I have more emails from your boss that if anyone wants to read they can contact me because I am not afraid to put my phone number on here. 916-638-8387. And yes I never EVER, EVER have been charged or convicted of raping ANY girl. Thats a fact! Your lies about me do not change the facts. Do you really think people read this stuff on here Randy Veres, other than me and you? Money matters to me but not as much to you Randy. Me hiding on the internet? I have said over and over that you can reach me at 3667 Omec Park Dr. in R.C. or at my house anytime, so I am not hiding or concerned about your threats. You have logged enough information on here along with two others becuase I have not other enemies other than you and maybe two ex employees. Oh you better hurry and send those postcards to my neighbors like you said you were going to about me being a rapist, because sales are so slow I am thinking of buying a multi million dollar home in El Dorado Hills. Whatever you do Randy it won't affect what I can do, just remember that. Me and you grew up in the same neighborhood, but some of us left and continued to prosper in many ways, some spiraled downward to AZ., it a shame you HAD to leave the state of California. Then again you had NO friends here at all and there was no reason for you to stay. As far as my mom being proud, she is very proud, and you shouldnt bring my mom into our petty war of words on here Randy, I have not brought your wife or children into this, but if you bring up or mention my mother again, your kids and wife will be a new subject, and I have as much to say about them as I do you. Also are you talking about this link here that you say I took off my site?
http://www.swimmingpoolsetc.com/why-buy-from-us.htm

I have not taken down a thing about our over 60,000 satisfied customers. And I wont take anything off because the truth hurts you!
Keep Scrolling down randall, more about you!

For you Randy Veres, you were suicidal last time we talked on the phone, is this still the case? If so do me a favor and many others in the R.C. area and just do it kid. This way I won't feel obligated to correct you on here after your obvious drug addiction has altered your thinking. Keep using the profanity and misspelled words Randall, it shows your education level and ultimately shows your income level. I honestly do feel sorry for your kids that they have someone they think is a father but really no more than a drug addict that sues people. Hmmm, just think, when they grow up and are old enough to think on their own they will see right through you, just like you did your Dad. Guess they will be telling stories of their dad driving around in his car with a sock that he used to beat off in, Sad but true Randall.
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#39 Consumer Suggestion

JEFF YURTIN SCUMBAG, JAIL TIME "SEX WITH A 15 YEAR OLD"

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Poor Jeff, CRY ME A RIVER YOU b***h.

This site is for people to voice their concerns about businesses like yours, who overcharge on shipping, lie about their BBB report, don't pay vendors, mistreat employees, lie about their customer service, etc., etc...

This is not a Blog or Forum for unethical owners to whimper and give their crybaby whiney-assed
opinion. Your nothing more than lying sack of runny s**t, who is pissed off because you have been exposed, your slowly and painfully starting to see your sales drop. And rightfully so, it's a shame a-holes like you remain in business by hiding on the Internet. Not for long though!

The best way to get Jiff back is through his wallet, a-hole would step on his moms neck to pick up a nickle, so if you want to get this puke simply spread the truth. Don't lower yourself to his level and make s**t up, your teeth will turn brown like his.

Comments from b***h-BOY'S Rebuttal's:

" One thing they cannot take away is my desire to succeed and my work ethics. They cannot stop me from building and running successful businesses". Boy must be hitten that rock again!

Everyone knows your true desires, RAPIST, and your 2 whole years of playing minor league ball is an indication of your work ethics...SCAB
BUT- you have succeeded in your goal of becoming the biggest c**k, boy, mom must be so proud.

Q and A time Mr.Pillar of the Community

Nice to see the BBB made you remove your false and deceiving claims on your web site about your
99.999999999% customer satisfaction rating,YAA RITE. I guess if it were true you would still have it posted wouldn't you? why would any legitimate business be forced to remove it? What's going to be your week a*s response to that? PUNK

Hey Jeff, are you white? doesn't someone have to be making comments about a different race to be called a racist? I swear your stupidity is beyond comprehension.

"as far as raping a girl, have never ever ever been convicted of or charged with raping someone"

Why you lie? Why? case # and web site is on other postings a-hole how dumb can one person be?

Truth is Jeff your weak and pathetic, and the Pillars of Justice have only just begun. YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, one more thing, nobody is stupid enough to puts their information on here because you have done JAIL time a*s-hole, what if they had a daughter? Plus, get that nose fixed again, people at FD are complaining your voice is irritating, they say your voice sound like you have your balls in your throat.

Yes Jeff, you have been the but of many funny a*s JOKES. Now what about that organ failure?
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#40 REBUTTAL Owner of company

WHY WONT ANY ONE PUT THEIR FULL NAME AND PHONE NUMBER ON HERE?

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

It looks as though I have had some disgruntled employees on her or business dealings. Its sad that they resort to profanity, name calling, lies and 7th grade english with all the mispelled words. Any intelligent person can see how they respond and how I respond, other than the Mike incident above, he appears to not be linked to an employee or business dealing. People sure are vindictive and jealous as the above emails show. I am sure this email will get another response as they will try to blast me in some way. One thing they cannot take away is my desire to succeed and my work ethics. They cannot stop me from building and running successful businesses. I did have some complaints in the past and as a business owner I delegated employees to take care of problems. Unfortunately, the employees I have hired in the past where not the best choices. Most where either friends from family or just a friend recommending a friend. I stopped doing this two years ago and have only hired out of the newspaper and our complaints to the BBB have been very minimal in the last two years. I just wish that the few people putting these postings up would have to put their full name with contacts up. Most of them are too scared and are lying and this is why they will not put their real names and phone numbers to confirm what they are saying. Should anyone need to contact me my phone number is 916-638-8387.
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#41 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres Emails showing his character PLEASE READ THESE EMAILS.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

This first one shows why he is posting things on ripoffreport.com These emails prove Randy Veres is a RACIST person with serious problems. Randy no longer works for First Data because of these emails he sent me. We also now know who the liar is as he states below he would not ever use information about me or disclose to anyone? Its in the second email below, please read Hmmm, it seems pretty clear why Randy Veres from Arizona posted these things, he was upset that he didnt get the processing from my businesses. He stood to gain alot of money in his pocket but now is out of a job and looking for work. Call First Data and ask when Randy quite/was fired. I guess money matters more than anything to Randy Veres. Only thing is now he is unemployed and broke. I still have a little cash left. Oh one more thing, what about when you used to go to several doctors in the sacramento area for drugs like Vicodin and Percocet you think that is illegal Randy Veres. I remember you trying to always get me to call my doctor so you could get prescriptions filled because of your addiction. Guess your not perfect either. We can prove this to Randy all we have to do is go to the various pharmacies in Folsom, I remember the ones you used to go to.

Here are the emails from the RACIST RANDY VERES OF ARIZONA...

From: randy.randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX[mailto:randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:34 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: RE: White Trash

I'm switching you to White Trash, Niger is to good for you. How come your self proclaimed, uneducated and misspelled blaster emails sound similar to the responses you use on ripoffreport.com. Try something original assf**ker. You are pathetic and predictable, that guy Mike figured your crooked a*s out in 1 whole email. You are white trash and sound just like all the other assf**kers that try and defend their pathetic business habits on that site, you are a f**king looser.

Now go pay your venders and get your f**king taxes done, a*****e.

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off
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From: randy.randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX[mailto:randy.randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 5:31 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: [Spam] RE: White-Niger

Hey Retard, I did own a business dumb s**t and had many vendors, so I do know what I'm talking about moron. And I would love nothing more to f**k my own self as soon as you get done.

Todd does not have a 360 stupid a*s he has your Chinese Vibrator; and for your info cabana boy the 360 is rated as one of the worst pool cleaners in Arizona based off sales you dumb f**k, learn your business. Their is not one pool builder in the state that recommends a pressure cleaner for this climate.

No, I don't think your the only one to use a competitors pricing to lower your rates stupid a*s, I see it all the time that's why I don't give clients any numbers to take to their processor. What I didn't expect, is a so called friend to go behind my back and do it you p***k, that was between me and you a*s-hole. I don't give a flying f**k how much profit, money or any other personal gain involved, I would never disclose the information I know about you for money or any other reason, and incase you forgot I am in sales to make money also d***o. It's called trust you white Niger, look the word up. And please, I just called my guy up and told him I was thinking about changing, get the f**k outa here with that bullshit. You didn't even know you got a rate increase until I brought it to your stupid a*s attention. I know your an ignant mother f**ker but please, lets not insult what little intelligence you do have!

And for your future reference, I don't care what that piece of s**t is rated or how many have been returned. It don't clean my pool stupid a*s and that's all that matters. I have called Polaris and spent many hours at different pool shops talking to pool people about what could be the problem and have tried them all, still nothing; so f**k you! So yes Jeff is wrong on both counts, Todd no have 360 a*s wipe, and yes Jeff don't know s**t. I bet if that 360 wasn't cleaning your pool it wouldn't still be sitting their because know one has ever returned one. a*s

I don't pound cement dumb s**t, and that black tahoe has something called AC- f**k head.

I have a great idea for you to make a ton of money, since that's all that interests you. Being your so good at f**king any one you come in contact with up the a*s for personal gain, you should become a gay porn star, unlike the ungrateful others that you think should turn around and thank you when you get done pulling your d**k out of their a*s, those guys will beg for more. Now go do some a*s f**king b***h.

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off

From: randy.randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX[mailto:randy.veres@XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 6:21 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: [Spam] RE: Dirk Digler

Wrong again Porn Star, we sold it because it was taking to much time away from our kids, it's sacrificing your wants and needs for others, something a selfish p***k would no nothing about. Gee, ya think maybe that's why your 40, fat and single. Naaaaaaah . And the people who bought the salon kept the integrity we started and have opened up two more since, you uneducated retard.

And one less a*****e, maybe; but coming from the biggest a*****e doesn't faze me, when it comes from people who don't a*s f**k others for their own selfish and pathetic gains is when it matters. Keep buying those friends d**k, I'm sure your used to it.

Now go lube up Dirk, it's time to start
a*s-F--kin.

Randy Veres
First Data Corp.
Direct Business Group
623.523.2193-Mobile
623.376.6755-Fax
480-348-5871-Off

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#42 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy Veres of Arizona right...these lies randy, we shall see when you have to show up for a deposition.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

You continue to lie and spread more and more lies about me. Atleast if anybody does read this they can see how upset and how much profanity you use, not to mention your spelling. Gee Randy that education is paying off now isnt it. My taxes are not suspicious? Suspicious in what way? All my taxes are done. You are now showing why your posting all these negative things, for revenge of losing your job and the racial emails Randy Veres of Arizona has sent. Why do you post your from Folsom when you live in Arizona?

We used to work out every day while playing professional baseball and I have known you for over 20 years. All I asked for was my original documents back from you and you refused, that is why I sent the emails to your boss because I was afraid your little brain would overload and you would post things about me or use information you have gathered from me and now it is all coming true. But luckily you wont have the last say kid. On another note, my personal credit score is over 700. As you know Randy you have seen my bank accounts because they were faxed to you when you worked with First Data. There is enough to keep you in court for awhile, and I am not kidding. Even though I never signed up with First Data I was billed recently. I never signed a thing, I hope you didnt forge my signature because we are pulling the files. Keep it up Randy Veres.
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#43 Consumer Comment

JEFF- LOOSER, UNETHICAL, LIAR... FACT ..you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Comments from this useless uneducated, puke continue to be a joke. Jeff don't worry about trying to defend your Pathetic, Self-Absorbed Uneducated, Lying sack of s**t lifestyle... your rebuttals speak loud and clear.U R an Idiot.

Websters dicttionary, get one A-hole and look up the word fact...1.Information presented as true and accurate. 2.Something having real, demonstrable existence. 3.Something done, esp. a crime.

OK, now that you know the meaning you RETARD. I will state some honest facts. Pay Attention, or get your Atornney Barney Fife to translate.

1. A couple is two Mr. Wizard, your BBB has 56 complaints, that does not add up to 99.9% satisfaction stupid-a*s. What is your point posting a BBB message saying your situation is being reviewd. What are you trying to pull now A-hole, The fact of the matter is, you have the worst BBB report of any legit Internet Pool Co. not by a little but by miles, you have the comparison I sent you jack a*s, all your competitors had 2 or less, most with none at all. Post that LIAR. Put something on this site with concrete evidence that backs up the s**t comming out of your sewer hole (scroll down PUNK)

2. Your account was declined by FD because the credit officer stated that you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.
You were told to send in 04 taxes, June and you still had not had them completed, gee wonder why? D and B report checks businesses records on paying vendors for product, how odd, Jeff not paying for services renderd. d**k Head, and to boot your personal credit score was a joke. LIAR

3. You used an email sent to you as a responce to a joke that had the N word in it, and tried to use that to get me fired. Did not work, I quit A-hole AND GOT A BETTER JOB. Jeff left me a message saying if I did not stop spreading the TRUTH he would send the same emails to my new employer. I saved and gave to my attorney. That was the nail in your a*s b***h, U R a DUMB s**t, and thank you. Only two PEICES of WHITE TRASH that would use the race card to accomplish something; Jeff Yurin and O.J Simpson. LIAR

4. Here you go A-Hole, this is what I'm talking about, concrete evidence,your criminal file. FACT

Result for: YURTIN, GEORGE Alias:
Xref Last Name First Name Middle Name Suffix
604641 YURTIN GEORGE JEFFREY
604641 YURTIN JEFF G
604641 YURTIN JEFFREY
Filing Information:
Case Number Filing Date Xref Last First Middle Status Charge Doc Court ID
93F03991 05/13/1993 604641 YURTIN GEORGE JEFFREY Disposed
Information 34100
Filing Charges:
C001 PC 261.5 MIS
C002 PC 272 FEL
C003 PC 261.5 MIS
C004 PC 272 MIS
C005 PC 261.5 FEL
C006 PC 272 MIS
C007 PC 136.1(B)(2 MIS
Hearing History:
Date Time Department Reason Outcome
03/01/1994 8:30 AM Department 99 JAIL INST JAIL INST
03/01/1994 8:30 AM Department 99 MOTMODDF GRANT
FEES/987.8PC
Outcome CONT CONTINUED
Outcome DROP DROP HEARING
Outcome EXON BOND EXONERATED
Outcome GRANT GRANT REQUEST
Outcome HTA HELD TO ANSWER
Outcome JAIL INST SPECIAL NOTIFICATION TO JAIL (HAIRCUTS, DR'S APPT,
ETC.)
Outcome REFORIG MATTER REFERRED TO PROBATION FOR ORIGINAL REPORT
Outcome SENT DEFENDANT SENTENCED
C001 M 03/01/1994 GN 4Y Yes STW 60D F
C001O 12/02/1993 GN 4Y Yes SWP 60D F

What now A-hole? cat got your tung. See Jeff, your pathetic postings of law suits is a joke, just like you. WHY, because you dug your own holes, you use BS and LIES to try and save that ugly face of yours. I state facts you PUNK. Besides, last I herd your so called attorney; Barney Fife, has been tied up for years suing your brains for non-support.

Hugh, don't know you, but sounds like your one of many, many, many that would like to see Jeff have a major organ failure and DIE. Don't worry Hugh, Jeff's day is coming, he just isn't smart enough to figure it out.
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#44 Consumer Comment

JEFF- LOOSER, UNETHICAL, LIAR... FACT ..you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Comments from this useless uneducated, puke continue to be a joke. Jeff don't worry about trying to defend your Pathetic, Self-Absorbed Uneducated, Lying sack of s**t lifestyle... your rebuttals speak loud and clear.U R an Idiot.

Websters dicttionary, get one A-hole and look up the word fact...1.Information presented as true and accurate. 2.Something having real, demonstrable existence. 3.Something done, esp. a crime.

OK, now that you know the meaning you RETARD. I will state some honest facts. Pay Attention, or get your Atornney Barney Fife to translate.

1. A couple is two Mr. Wizard, your BBB has 56 complaints, that does not add up to 99.9% satisfaction stupid-a*s. What is your point posting a BBB message saying your situation is being reviewd. What are you trying to pull now A-hole, The fact of the matter is, you have the worst BBB report of any legit Internet Pool Co. not by a little but by miles, you have the comparison I sent you jack a*s, all your competitors had 2 or less, most with none at all. Post that LIAR. Put something on this site with concrete evidence that backs up the s**t comming out of your sewer hole (scroll down PUNK)

2. Your account was declined by FD because the credit officer stated that you had the worst Dunn and Bradstreet report he has seen in 15 years, your 02 and 03 taxes were suspicious.
You were told to send in 04 taxes, June and you still had not had them completed, gee wonder why? D and B report checks businesses records on paying vendors for product, how odd, Jeff not paying for services renderd. d**k Head, and to boot your personal credit score was a joke. LIAR

3. You used an email sent to you as a responce to a joke that had the N word in it, and tried to use that to get me fired. Did not work, I quit A-hole AND GOT A BETTER JOB. Jeff left me a message saying if I did not stop spreading the TRUTH he would send the same emails to my new employer. I saved and gave to my attorney. That was the nail in your a*s b***h, U R a DUMB s**t, and thank you. Only two PEICES of WHITE TRASH that would use the race card to accomplish something; Jeff Yurin and O.J Simpson. LIAR

4. Here you go A-Hole, this is what I'm talking about, concrete evidence,your criminal file. FACT

Result for: YURTIN, GEORGE Alias:
Xref Last Name First Name Middle Name Suffix
604641 YURTIN GEORGE JEFFREY
604641 YURTIN JEFF G
604641 YURTIN JEFFREY
Filing Information:
Case Number Filing Date Xref Last First Middle Status Charge Doc Court ID
93F03991 05/13/1993 604641 YURTIN GEORGE JEFFREY Disposed
Information 34100
Filing Charges:
C001 PC 261.5 MIS
C002 PC 272 FEL
C003 PC 261.5 MIS
C004 PC 272 MIS
C005 PC 261.5 FEL
C006 PC 272 MIS
C007 PC 136.1(B)(2 MIS
Hearing History:
Date Time Department Reason Outcome
03/01/1994 8:30 AM Department 99 JAIL INST JAIL INST
03/01/1994 8:30 AM Department 99 MOTMODDF GRANT
FEES/987.8PC
Outcome CONT CONTINUED
Outcome DROP DROP HEARING
Outcome EXON BOND EXONERATED
Outcome GRANT GRANT REQUEST
Outcome HTA HELD TO ANSWER
Outcome JAIL INST SPECIAL NOTIFICATION TO JAIL (HAIRCUTS, DR'S APPT,
ETC.)
Outcome REFORIG MATTER REFERRED TO PROBATION FOR ORIGINAL REPORT
Outcome SENT DEFENDANT SENTENCED
C001 M 03/01/1994 GN 4Y Yes STW 60D F
C001O 12/02/1993 GN 4Y Yes SWP 60D F

What now A-hole? cat got your tung. See Jeff, your pathetic postings of law suits is a joke, just like you. WHY, because you dug your own holes, you use BS and LIES to try and save that ugly face of yours. I state facts you PUNK. Besides, last I herd your so called attorney; Barney Fife, has been tied up for years suing your brains for non-support.

Hugh, don't know you, but sounds like your one of many, many, many that would like to see Jeff have a major organ failure and DIE. Don't worry Hugh, Jeff's day is coming, he just isn't smart enough to figure it out.
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#45 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Are you kidding....

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Hugh,

I have a girlfriend just so you know and more friends than randy our yourself hugh....as far as raping a girl, have never ever ever been convicted of or charged with raping someone, this is why randy is going to be sued. As far as screwing people over, only randy does this, he has a history of it. As for you hugh, post your phone number and who you really are because i think this is just randy under another name. The reason i think its randy is because of all the mispellings, look at the profanity in his emails and responses. Hugh are you scared to put your last name on here? Are you scared to put your phone number so someone can verify who you are? Of course you are hugh. We can always meet to discuss this hugh, just call me 916-638-8387, i would love to meet you. If someone was really out to get me they could reach me at work anyday. I sleep fine, but randy will not be sleeping fine because he will be hearing from my attorney very soon, should be fun, stay tuned hugh and keep the phony emails coming, they help my case, you see ip addresses are logged evertime on here along with a password and login and the courts can make ripoffreport.com give this information up, but you already know this hugh. Tell randy and his hag wife, thats what HE calls her to grow up. Also ask randy why his business failed and he had to high tail it out of ca to az, what a loser he is, but he says he loves the 115 weather in his black beat tahoe while pounding cement trying to con someone.
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#46 Consumer Suggestion

You are a Loser Jeff

AUTHOR: Hugh - (U.S.A.)

I just have to jump in a hand it to Randy. If I were Jeff I would just shut up, you are making yourself look even more busted up than your face, Randy stats facts you Jeff state lies..what's new! How do you feel every morning you wake up knowing you have no friends no balls and no common sense all you have is a wallet to get you out of trouble. Do you feel good looking over your shoulder everyday wondering: "who is out to get me now"?; "whoe did I screw yesturday"? You have stepped on too many people including 15 yr old girls that is true; and will haunt you forever I suggest you go to the pound and buy a kitty because that is the only p***y you can get! Sounds like Randy just wants innocent customers of yours to know who they are dealing with. A LOSER

HP- Randy's New Best Friend!
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#47 REBUTTAL Owner of company

The current BBB report below. They are updating due to most of the complaints are not valid.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Yes, Swimming Pools Etc. has had over 60,000 orders with only a very few number people that have been unhappy and if you do the math we do have a great record of over 99.9% of our customers satisfaction. Randy and others above really cannot do the math can they. Get off the drugs Randy and you can figure this out. Can you divide Randy? The suicidal kid randall! Just Do it!

WWW Development Inc.-Swimming Pools Etc.et al
3667 Omec Park Dr. Ste. 1
Rancho Cordova, CA 95742

The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.

Customer Experience

This report is currently being updated.

Report as of 09/14/2005
Copyright 2005 Better Business Bureau of Northeast California

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained herein is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

The Better Business Bureau reports on members and non-members. Membership in the BBB is voluntary, and members must meet and maintain BBB standards. If a company is a member of this BBB, it is stated in this report.
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#48 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Randy you will now be sued for misleading people

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Randy a self admitted drug addict/loser and is now posting negatives things about myself because he lost a business deal and his job while working for First Data Merchant Services. He lost my business and I have excerpts from his emails showing he is also a racist, please note below this email from randy veres, seems as though he was very upset at me for sending him a free pool cleaner but he wanted a different one. This guy used to be a friend of mine for over 15 years and now all the drugs have obviously gotten to him. So now he resorts to lies about me. Luckily you cant post things that are not true and I will be hiring an attorney and he will be showing up for a deposition about this.

Jeff Yurtin


From: randy.
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:34 AM
To: Jeff Yurtin
Subject: RE: Donkey n***a

Pay attention to detail dumb a*s. It doesn't matter if I stole the f-ing thing it cost you nothing. Now here is the tricky part,so pay close attention to the detail. You did not pay a red f**king cent for a piece of equipment you were going to pay $700 to get; therefore, dumb a*s you saved $700 out of YOUR POCKET. But as usual you find a way to spin it off like your getting f**ked. How odd.

It's been over 3 weeks since I told you I needed something else, and still nothing, all I here from you is bullshit about how good of a cleaner it is, I don't give a f**k. You have cost me more money and time f-king around with cleaning that pool then I need. And now you want me to drive 2 hours to trade this piece of s**t so you can save more money out of this deal, suck my d**k, Polaris has a trade in deal, I will get my own f-king cleaner.

I got you that terminal next day shipped programmed and ready to go for you in one day; because you said you needed it. If the roles were reversed though, that would be a different story. They would be the biggest a*****e around according to you. Look in the mirror p***k o.

What kind of person steals the information a friend gave him to save money on his processing and instead of switching uses that information to get his own rates lowered. I listen to you all the time talk about how everyone in your industry is always trying to stick it up your a*s, is that before or after you get done f-king them, but of course, in Jeff's world he is the only one that does the f-king, friends included. Save it b***h, your a tired act.

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#49 Consumer Comment

JEFF YURIN/swimmingpoolsetc. Unethical, Misleading Liar

AUTHOR: Randy - (U.S.A.)

Truth hurts. Eh Jeff. You are nothing more than a Dime Stoor Hood, hiding behinde honest businesses waiting to pounce on consumers like a
rapist.

Why would an honest business have to lower themselves to pull this unethical s**t?

The truth is your BBB record is not only pathetic but it is a direct reflection of you
A-hole. Jeff Yurin is the only one able to go in and make changes on his web site.

Why Buy Your Pool Supplies From SPE...

Our company has processed over 60,000 orders the past 3 years with a 99.9% approval rating from our customers after ordering from us. This can be verified through the Better Business Bureau (BBB) and our companies 60,000 orders. The best warranty in the industry and great service. So go ahead, we dare you to compare us to the competition!

Current BBB Report Jeff is fully aware of.

All Reports: as of 08/19/2005
Copyright 2005 Better Business Bureau of Northeast California
Swimmingpoolsetc

For the past three years, our file indicates that the Better Business Bureau has received 57 complaints regarding this company. Our records
indicate that only 18 were resolved. The company also responded to another 25, of which 20 were closed without reaching a resolution that
was satisfactory to both parties, and 5 were closed as not resolved. Our records indicate that there are also 13 complaints to which the company did not offer substantive response to issues raised by the consumer.
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to the unresolved complaints and complaints to which the company did not provide substantive response.
Sacramento Valley BBB Phone: (916)443-6843 Please feel free to complain

HEY, Mr. Wizard, can you do the math? Does that add up to 99.9%? You uneducated Neanderthal.

NO other internet pool supply company in the top 20 had over 3 complaints in the exact same time frame. Most had none at all!!!

I state the facts. You are an Unethical and Deceptive Liar and consumers need to be aware of you Jeff.

This puke has several other web sites that are linked to swimmingpoolsetc. www.development.com I gues this is where he concocts all his BS, he does not build anything. LowPricedPoolSupply, SwimmingPoolSupply.com,WholesalePoolSupplies.com.The puke does this to make consumers beleive their doing business with another company.

Jeff, make sure you have facts to back up your BS, not some lame s**t about how some guy smokes dope, or how Shaun, who really did work for you and simply stated what others in the industry all ready know. Your a gutless, bottom-feeder who in his own pathetic world beleives others are actually jealous of you. Let's see.

Yurtin, George,Jeffery
41 years old, single, lives alone, has no friends is hated in his industry for being a liar and unethical. Age 31 pleaded guilty to raping a 15 year old that was walking by his apartment. Case #93F03991 www.saccourt.com
Jeff, I think you have jealous confused with a*s-whippen.

Protecting Consumers and Promoting Justice.
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#50 Consumer Comment

WOW, getting kind of defensive huh? ...appears that there is a little smoke coming up..

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

Jeff

I was just reading these comments and at first was siding with you that maybe these were just disgruntled people who had an axe to grind with you on some other level, but decided to check out the BBB site listed on your company.

You stated that all remarks on this post were false, but it appears that there is a little smoke coming up, so when there is smoke there's......?

Also, if you truly do have 60,000 customers and have gotten only 56 complaints, that would be comendable for any company, but 56 complaints and 14 went unresolved, that is certainly not a good average. Can you do the math on that figure?
Only reason I read this item was because I do occasionally buy golf items via the internet, I guess from your attitude and remarks from the BBB, your company certainly will be on my "DO NOT USE" list.

You really should think before you respond. And listing my phone number won't change anything. I have never used your company,so don't have a specific problem, but again, would have proceeded to look into your products in your golf line had you responded with some kind of intelligent response to the accusations from the BBB.

As for pot...never have liked it.
As for the criminal record ,don't have one
lawsuits, don't have anyone even upset with me except it appears you.

Sorry you took offense to my question on trying to get an answer to some complaints that were registered.
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#51 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Are you the one with the criminal record Mike and Mike the dope dealer?

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

Is Mike the one with the criminal record and numerous other companies are looking to sue? Is this the pot smoker Mike? Mike what is your phone number??? We have over 60,000 customers with 56 complaints that all but 14 were resolved? Can Mike do the math on what the percentage is?? Mike what is your last name and phone number, list it honey.

JEFF YURTIN
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#52 Consumer Comment

Jeff, what about this ???

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

Better Business Bureau of Northeast California
400 S Street
Sacramento, CA 95814-6997

BBB Reliability Report

WWW Development Inc.-Swimming Pools Etc.et al
3667 Omec Park Dr. Ste. 1
Rancho Cordova, CA 95742


General Information

Original Business Start Date: January 1994
Principal : Mr. Jeff Yurtin Owner
Phone Number: (800) 544-3730
Fax Number: (916) 638-8387
BBB Membership: This company is not a member
Type-of-Business Classification: swimming pool supplies/service

The information in this report has either been provided by the company, or has been compiled by the Bureau from other sources.


Customer Experience

For the past three years, our file indicates that the Better Business Bureau has received 56 complaints regarding this company. Our records indicate that 17 were resolved. The company also responded to another 25, of which 20 were closed without reaching a resolution that was satisfactory to both parties, and 5 were closed as not resolved.
Our records indicate that there are also 14 complaints to which the company did not offer substantive response to issues raised by the consumer.

Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record due to the unresolved complaints and complaints to which the company did not provide substantive response.





Additional Information

Additional Doing-Business-As Names: Golf Clubs Etc.
Low Priced Pool Supply
Swimming Pools Etc.
SwimmingPoolSupply.com
WaterFilters.com
wholesalepoolsupplies.com
Additional Phone Numbers: 916-638-8326
866-737-8523


Company Advertising

Our file on this company also shows that some of the company's Web pages have included reference to the "lowest" price. We requested but did not receive substantiation for this claim. However, a recent review of the company's Web site indicates that reference to "lowest" price has been eliminated.


Additional File Information

Based on complaints we have received and the company's responses, it is evident that it is very important for consumers to carefully read and understand the company's terms and conditions as set forth in its "invoice" that can be accessed by clicking on "Customer Service" from the company's home page. Some customers state that they paid extra for three-day shipping. They allege that their order did not arrive within three days, and the company would not issue a refund of the extra shipping cost paid. The company's "invoice", which sets forth the terms and conditions applicable to the transaction, states, "Due to problems with UPS and FEDEX and Freight carriers, there are no guarantees on overnight, 2nd day air or 3-day shipping, or ground shipping. Therefore there are no refunds of any shipping charges, including damage claims." Some complaints allege that items were defective when they arrived, or that the incorrect item(s) were shipped, and they were not given a refund of shipping. Some complaints allege that they paid for 3-day delivery, and were not given a refund even though they assert that later than expected delivery was due to the company not getting the shipment to the shipper in a timely manner. Again, the company's terms and conditions state, "Buyer is responsible for all shipping costs." The company's terms and conditions state, "We reserve the right to charge a 25% restocking fee on any returned or cancelled order per individual business." Some complaints allege that a restocking fee was charged even when incorrect or defective product was received. The company's terms and conditions also state, "Customer is responsible to contact the manufacturer directly before ordering about issues regarding compatibility/installation of any products we [sic] will not be held responsible." And terms also state, "All warranty items are through the manufacturer of the product only and must be returned to a [manufacturer] warranty station" and " [the company] will not be held responsible for warranty or shipping for return of warranty of products." Accordingly, it would help to reduce misunderstandings and complaints if purchasers recognize that under the company's terms and conditions: buyers should rely only on advice from manufacturers, not the company, with respect to whether or not an item will be compatible with existing pool systems; buyers should not expect to receive a refund for any shipping charges under any circumstances; buyers must turn to manufacturers for all warranty matters; buyers should be prepared to incur a restocking charge for any shipment that is returned to the company or cancelled; time frames for delivery may be different for some products; for some items, including filter cartridges, motors, alarms, etc., all sales are final.

Report as of 05/07/2005
Copyright 2005 Better Business Bureau of Northeast California

As a matter of policy, the Better Business Bureau does not endorse any product, service or company. BBB reports generally cover a three-year reporting period, and are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information contained herein is believed reliable but not guaranteed as to accuracy. Reports are subject to change at any time.

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#53 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Request for postings to be removed.

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

I am requesting that both the illegal and defaming reports about my business and myself be removed. I have asked for a phone number, name, some type of contact to verify these complaints from said person. Nothing has been posted as to who this person is or how to contact them. The reason a phone number will not be listed for someone to call is that the statements are all lies. I am now requesting that ripoffreport.com remove them.

Sincerely,
Jeff Yurtin
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#54 REBUTTAL Owner of company

More False Postings With NO PROOF FROM WRITER

AUTHOR: Jeff - (U.S.A.)

These are totally false accusations. One, the claimant cannot produce a check that they sent to us, two we do not build pools, we only sell pool supplies. I would love for the claimant to LIST HIS/HER PHONE NUMBER to contact them regarding this claim. This will never happen where you can call them because its all lies. My phone number is 916-638-8387 call me!! Also we have never sued anyone in the pool business. Once I find the person posting these claims we will then have our first lawsuit as this is illegal and defamation of character. Whoever is posting these lies, post your phone number and who you are with a full name, address etc....

Sincerely,
Jeff Yurtin
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#55 Consumer Suggestion

Swimmingpoolsetc Has an Unsatisfactory Record with the BBB, 56 Complaints Within 3 Yrs

AUTHOR: Kevin - (U.S.A.)

My wife and I were turned on to Swimmingpoolsetc by a friend of a friend, that is no longer a friend. I am an Engineer by profession and I noticed that the contractors Mr. Jeff Yurtin hired used cheap materials that did not have (Longevity). This went back and forth for a while, which caused delays, which Mr. Yurtin blammed on us.

We wrote a check for an addtional $1,800.00 funds and the work continued until I noticed the plumbers cutting corners this time by trying to install a smaller filter pump. Every contractor tried to install garbage that they would never install in their own homes.

We asked Mr. Jeff Yurtin to provide us with a book containing photos and contact numbers of the pools that he had done, he flat out refused. We fired Mr. Yurtin and his shoddy Swimmingpoolsetc and hired another contractor to finish our pool. Mr. Yurtrin has decided to sue us as the great swimming pool builder tthat he is, aka. con man.

We later looked up Swimmingpoolsetc's Better Business Bureau Company Reliability Report at the following links below which states this company has 56 consumer complaint within a 3 yr period retaining an unsatisfactory record due to a pattern of unresolved complaints and a pattern of complaint to which the company did not provide substantive response.

www.sacramento.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=37000122

If I get a chance, I'll scan the report and post it on here for every consumer to read, review, and make the correct decision.

Thank You RIPOFF REPORT
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#56 REBUTTAL Owner of company

False accusations and not even by the employee as is being said!

AUTHOR: Jeff Yurtin - (U.S.A.)

I Jeff Yurtin contacted the above named employee Shaun O'donoghue who now works for General Pool & Spa (916)853-2400 and asked him if he posted this saying. The reason I put the phone number above is so that anyone can contact him. He promised me that he did not post this and had even tried to contact RipoffReport.com to solve but you cannot get ahold of anybody there. Its very unfortunate that one person can post a negative comment about an individual and or company without any verification from RipoffReport.com. All of my businesses on the web have excellent history of sending ALL products out and we have been in business on the web for over 8 years now. If we truly had not shipped out products for this long the California DA's office would have shut us down a long time ago. It is my hope that someone will contact the only Shaun that has ever worked for me at the above number and that this report will be dismissed and removed. If there is a IP address associated with the complaint I would love to have it. If you type in any of my businesses on ripoffreport.com you will see that we have NO complaints.



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