- Report: #457940
Complaint Review: T R Theater Research Inc Paramax Audio
| T R Theater Research Inc Paramax Audio 19051 Golden West St. Suite# 233
Huntington Beach, California U.S.A. |
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T R Theater Research Inc Paramax Audio Self-proclaimed expensive audio equipment selling out of trunk or van home theater system Huntington Beach California
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Company Contact info
*Author of original report: Good point, but...
*General Comment: well.. I AT LEAST GOT THIER license Plate
* : Paramax is not a scam
*Consumer Comment: Wait!
*Consumer Comment: Scammed in San Diego
*Consumer Comment: Speakers are not junk, they work fine
*Consumer Comment: Speakers are not junk, they work fine
*Consumer Comment: Speakers are not junk, they work fine
*Consumer Comment: Speakers are not junk, they work fine
*Author of original report: Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
*Author of original report: Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
*Author of original report: Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
*Author of original report: Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
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I couldn't find it in google products. I couldn't find it in google at all. I searched for paramax but only got results for panamax. Then the guy gave him a web address to give to me. www.paramaxaudio.com.
I loaded the page and it looked fine at first glance. But that part number wasn't on their website. The guy told him it was a brand new product and was just like this other p-510 that was listed on the site for MSRP $3199. There was another part number, p-6 with an MSRP $2199. We could have them both for $600 each. They showed a magazine or catalog that looked legit enough, and used that to justify their price. The boxes were sealed with tape that had the brand printed on it. It all looked good in the moment.
I said we could spare the money for a while and go ahead.
Something still seemed odd though. I couldn't find that part number anywhere online. So I looked on ebay to find all sorts of completed listings with unsold products. There was a p-510 that sold for $200 once, and there were many other items with 16-25 bids only going up to between $110-$160.
I called my husband back immediately and said we couldn't make any money off them. He told the guys they weren't worth anything to us and they were p***ed.
Upon further research, I noticed that there was no phone number on the website, only a fax number.
I googled the address listed on the website and got an arial view of the building. I couldn't find a spot on that building that matched the picture of the warehouse on the paramaxaudio website. The business listings for that complex do not include paramax audio or theater research inc.
I went to the internic whois page and paramaxaudio.com was created in july of 2008 and was registered to T R theater research inc.
I googled T R Theater Research Inc and found www.trtheaterresearch.com, which is a website selling similar products at similar prices. Neither of those web pages impress me as being truely professional, btw. Looking further at the websites, there is a lot of information missing, a lot of blank "coming soon" pages, and some technical errors in coding that I noticed...
trthearerresearch.com was created in 2002.
I figured if they were incorporated it would be on public record. I went to the california secretary of state and there is a T R Theater Research Inc active and incorporated since 2002.
You can find that public record here: http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C2398443
I also found a rather long discussion about these products on ecoustics.com where many many members are claiming the product is horrible and the "salespeople" are classic scammers. You can read the discussion here: http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/3/76993.html
The reason I am posting this ripoffreport is because it appears to me that T R Theater Research Inc has gotten a strong reputation for selling a horrible product and scamming consumers in parking lots. The name appears to be exhausted, and it also appears that they are trying to continue doing the same thing under this new name, paramax audio. There is an undeniable link between the two company names. Also, it is probably no coincidence that the paramax name is one character different from an actual reputable audio brand.
I couldn't find any information online about paramax audio to make an educated decision in a timely manner, and I think that the name needs to bring this page up when googled. Too many people have overpaid for a cheap product, and I know that they will just change their name again. But in the mean time, I hope that someone will read this and be informed enough to keep their money from being taken.
Amber
Renton, Washington
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Company Contact info
AUTHOR: Yep - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 23, 2010
#2 Author of original report
Good point, but...
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 11, 2010
Point well taken and I agree with you. I totally believe in 'buyer beware' which is why I did the research before it was too late for us. A lot of people might not know how to dig up this kind of information though.
Plus, the fact that they are grossly misrepresenting their product is an issue, isn't it?
They have gone to the trouble to print fake magazines showcasing their product as though it was the cat's meow, when in fact it is a no-name cheap knock off. People may be getting what they pay for, but when you tell someone that you will sell them a diamond at cubic-zirconia prices, and you are in fact selling them a CZ, it is a rip-off in my opinion. You just don't lie about what you are selling and then divert the blame onto the victim because they were looking for a good deal.
I know one would argue that supporting thieves is wrong and I agree with that as well. But these scammers know how most people feel about that and have learned to be very convincing that the product is legit. A lot of people are just not too savvy, and they are the ones that become victims.
#3 General Comment
well.. I AT LEAST GOT THIER license Plate
AUTHOR: weston - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 06, 2010
By the way, the p-6040 is listed on their website and retails for $2499. Maybe it was a new product and just recently added, either way I hope you learn from your mistakes. I am not surprised the number of people still buying from vans and truck. They should make a new TV show 'America's dumbest consumers'.
#6 Consumer Comment
Scammed in San Diego
AUTHOR: Californianewbie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 23, 2009
I just wanted to comment and say that I have just been recently scammed by similar individuals, not in a white van, but a truck, claiming the same story that you were told about the system at unbelievable prices, but unfortunately I was conned into buying the system for $200 cash. What I would like to know is have you done a follow up of any nature, whether through the DA office or through this website, and if so, what responses have you received?
I just sent an email to the "company," but after reading your report, I'm not expecting any form of a genuine response.
Sincerely,
Scammed in San Diego
#7 Consumer Comment
Speakers are not junk, they work fine
AUTHOR: Uaplumber26 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 19, 2009
What I've read about them since borders on delusional paranoia. Big box retailers have similarly built fiber board box speakers that are no better. And let's not even discuss the little plastic boxes that pass for surround systems. You get what you pay for.
#8 Consumer Comment
Speakers are not junk, they work fine
AUTHOR: Uaplumber26 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 19, 2009
What I've read about them since borders on delusional paranoia. Big box retailers have similarly built fiber board box speakers that are no better. And let's not even discuss the little plastic boxes that pass for surround systems. You get what you pay for.
#9 Consumer Comment
Speakers are not junk, they work fine
AUTHOR: Uaplumber26 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 19, 2009
What I've read about them since borders on delusional paranoia. Big box retailers have similarly built fiber board box speakers that are no better. And let's not even discuss the little plastic boxes that pass for surround systems. You get what you pay for.
#10 Consumer Comment
Speakers are not junk, they work fine
AUTHOR: Uaplumber26 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 19, 2009
What I've read about them since borders on delusional paranoia. Big box retailers have similarly built fiber board box speakers that are no better. And let's not even discuss the little plastic boxes that pass for surround systems. You get what you pay for.
#11 Author of original report
Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
#12 Author of original report
Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
#13 Author of original report
Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
#14 Author of original report
Genesis Media Labs Genesis Audio
AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 03, 2009

