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Complaint Review: TH NationWide P&D Marketing Pro-Sales Ds Max Granton

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  • Submitted: Sat, November 15, 2008
  • Updated: Thu, July 23, 2009

  • Reported By:Liverpool British Columbia
TH NationWide P&D Marketing Pro-Sales Ds Max Granton
Liverpool, England United Kingdom
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  • Category: Cult

TH NationWide P&D Marketing Pro-Sales Ds Max Granton Won't Pay You, Work 18 Hour Day's, Lie About Earnings, Won't Pay Tax Or Ni, Commision Only, Live like Rats, It's A Cult Master Minded By Jessie Youny & Larry Liverpool England United Kingdom

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What a load of BULL S**T

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What a load of BULL S**T

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What a load of BULL S**T

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Stephen Powell responds

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Hi All,

Please do not work for these sick deprived anti social liars, there just one big bunch off gangsters. Ok! They won't Pay you any salary, It's Commision only!! That's ok if it's decent commsion. It's not. If your a good Salesman you would be lucky to earn 200 Per Week, For 18 hour day's. 6 Day's a week!! None off them pay any tax you've got to pay for your own travel & any new recruits you've got to take out.

These people are masters & cheating vunrable people. It's just one Massive Cult!! We need to get these gangsters shut down. They recruit Illegal Immigrants, Steal there passport's Ect!! You will see hundreds off Ripoff Reports on here, However they use diffrent company names prosale DsMax Cydor .... Take our advice DO NOT WORK FOR THESE CON MEN .

They have offices all over the uk you need to be wary some of the managers are really thick like Steven Powell he's got to be one off the biggest Gangsters he actually encourges people to not pay Tax He does not pay any Tax & Also claims the Dole of the state! He needs a good +++++++ He will some day I'm sure as he double crosses to many people!! He can't even remain faithful o his Partner & Daughter but I refuse to write anymore about that as it's his personal Life.... I'll respect that... But i do feel for his Partner all those Lies!

He really should be locked up. He stole my Passport didn't pay me forced me to work 6/7 Day's a week what a bully, Anyway i'll leave it @ that there is enough reports online about Steven & P&D Marketing Stay Clear .. They will mess your Life up big style!!!!!!

Paul ****
Liverpool, British Columbia
United Kingdom

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What a load of BULL S**T

AUTHOR: Terry Mcnamee - (United Kingdom)

Not being funny here but i worked for TH Nationwide for over 18 months and would take all of the above comments with a pinch of salt.

I knew when i took this job that it would be commision only and i would not be getting a basic wage. But once i worked there for a few days and saw the amount of money that i had earned i was more than happy to stay. I had come from the dole (earning 42 per week) and was now earning that amount in half a day.

Forced to work, dont make me laugh lad, if Tia Hussain or Steven Powell even tried to force me to work then i would have laughed in their faces. I chose to work them hours, not because i was brainwashed, but because i wanted to earn as much money as possible. Tia, Steven & Kevin actually told me that if i wanted to take time off to go and watch Liverpool in Europe to let them know 24 hours in advance. So definately no evidence of forced employment.

Took passport from you, i put it to you lad that you are actually telling lies. What are you bringing it with you to work in the first place?! or whay nor just tell them to F*ck Off.

Finally, mentioning peoples private lives is neither her nor there to me, dont know why you mentioned it.

To be perfectly honest, Tia said in a meeting that people spend hundreds of punds per year for Sales training that he gives away for nothing. As someone that has spend nearly 5, very succesfull, years in Sales I think the training they gave me was invaluble and I still use parts of it to this day. I personally think that you must of been a useless salesman and that is why you have a downer on the company. Move on lad.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What a load of BULL S**T

AUTHOR: Terry Mcnamee - (United Kingdom)

Not being funny here but i worked for TH Nationwide for over 18 months and would take all of the above comments with a pinch of salt.

I knew when i took this job that it would be commision only and i would not be getting a basic wage. But once i worked there for a few days and saw the amount of money that i had earned i was more than happy to stay. I had come from the dole (earning 42 per week) and was now earning that amount in half a day.

Forced to work, dont make me laugh lad, if Tia Hussain or Steven Powell even tried to force me to work then i would have laughed in their faces. I chose to work them hours, not because i was brainwashed, but because i wanted to earn as much money as possible. Tia, Steven & Kevin actually told me that if i wanted to take time off to go and watch Liverpool in Europe to let them know 24 hours in advance. So definately no evidence of forced employment.

Took passport from you, i put it to you lad that you are actually telling lies. What are you bringing it with you to work in the first place?! or whay nor just tell them to F*ck Off.

Finally, mentioning peoples private lives is neither her nor there to me, dont know why you mentioned it.

To be perfectly honest, Tia said in a meeting that people spend hundreds of punds per year for Sales training that he gives away for nothing. As someone that has spend nearly 5, very succesfull, years in Sales I think the training they gave me was invaluble and I still use parts of it to this day. I personally think that you must of been a useless salesman and that is why you have a downer on the company. Move on lad.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What a load of BULL S**T

AUTHOR: Terry Mcnamee - (United Kingdom)

Not being funny here but i worked for TH Nationwide for over 18 months and would take all of the above comments with a pinch of salt.

I knew when i took this job that it would be commision only and i would not be getting a basic wage. But once i worked there for a few days and saw the amount of money that i had earned i was more than happy to stay. I had come from the dole (earning 42 per week) and was now earning that amount in half a day.

Forced to work, dont make me laugh lad, if Tia Hussain or Steven Powell even tried to force me to work then i would have laughed in their faces. I chose to work them hours, not because i was brainwashed, but because i wanted to earn as much money as possible. Tia, Steven & Kevin actually told me that if i wanted to take time off to go and watch Liverpool in Europe to let them know 24 hours in advance. So definately no evidence of forced employment.

Took passport from you, i put it to you lad that you are actually telling lies. What are you bringing it with you to work in the first place?! or whay nor just tell them to F*ck Off.

Finally, mentioning peoples private lives is neither her nor there to me, dont know why you mentioned it.

To be perfectly honest, Tia said in a meeting that people spend hundreds of punds per year for Sales training that he gives away for nothing. As someone that has spend nearly 5, very succesfull, years in Sales I think the training they gave me was invaluble and I still use parts of it to this day. I personally think that you must of been a useless salesman and that is why you have a downer on the company. Move on lad.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Stephen Powell responds

AUTHOR: Stephen Powell - (United Kingdom)

Hi
I've responded once already but as they appear I'll keep going:
Won't Pay You - Any one who is owed money by a company should pursue it? Isn't that common sense please do contact P&D Marketing if you have indeed worked here - all positions are self employed this is explained before anyone starts work I would gladly pay anyone who feels they have made sales and not received commissions for them.
P&D marketing is a stand alone company who is supplied by Pro-Sales. DS Max is an old name for a company that ran in America and as for Granton I think this is similar, please be specific with your posts.
I would like to know why I am a gangster please be specific as this is a very personal attack.

He does not pay any Tax & Also claims the Dole of the state!
I have paid tax continuously since I was 15 3/4 and have had continuous employment since then - I really think this report is unfounded - Paul if you can please do try to prove otherwise. I actively encourage people to register as self employed when they become customers or ISA's of my company, however it is an independant position as such it is an individuals responsibility.

He really should be locked up. He stole my Passport didn't pay me forced me to work 6/7 Day's a week what a bully, Anyway i'll leave it @ that there is enough reports online about Steven & P&D Marketing Stay Clear .. They will mess your Life up big style!!!!!!
I have explained in another post: I have never had anyone's passport - except when they have asked me to lock it in a safe? How could I force someone to work if they didn't want to. Again more unfounded lies.

He needs a good +++++++ He will some day I'm sure as he double crosses to many people!! He can't even remain faithful o his Partner & Daughter

Again as in other posts completely unsubstantiated and further lies.

but I refuse to write anymore about that as it's his personal Life.... I'll respect that... But i do feel for his Partner all those Lies!


Again more comments on my personal life - why is this perhaps a former customer who is just upset and whats to cause problems for me? Please tell me who I've double crossed - I go out of my way to make sure that people who have worked with me, leave on great terms.

Jessie Youny - please get spelling right.
None off them pay any tax you've got to pay for your own travel & any new recruits you've got to take out.
Please substantiate claims.

I think by now if you've read this you get the idea of what this post amounts to. For anyone who wishes to discuss any questions, concerns or comments please do contact me at my office.
Stephen Powell
Managing Director
P&D Marketing
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