• Report: #131154

Complaint Review: THE MEGA LIFE AND HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY

  • Submitted: Sat, February 12, 2005
  • Updated: Tue, June 30, 2009

  • Reported By:Aptos California
THE MEGA LIFE AND HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY
9151 Grapevine Highway North Richland Hills, Texas U.S.A.

THE MEGA LIFE AND HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY Health insurance plan is NOT what they claim North Richland Hills Texas

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: $17 Million Lawsuit

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I worked for them in the 90's

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: HEALTHMARKETS IS STILL MEGA LIFE & HEALTH!!!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Nice....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: My Story Continued

*Consumer Suggestion: looks like the fighting died down

*Consumer Comment: Mega Life and Health Insurance constantly increases their premiums

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Healthmarkets on Monster

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Show up to a interview and save the others with the truth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What???

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Eat Crow and choke on it

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Eating Crow?

*UPDATE Employee: Mega Corporate Level Mission Statement

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Guilty as charged your honor

*Consumer Comment: I think I've reached my verdict.

*Consumer Comment: I think I've reached my verdict.

*Consumer Comment: I have reached my verdict.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Regarding those lower Ratings......

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: How many Mega agents are eating Crow now?

*UPDATE Employee: You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

*UPDATE Employee: You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

*UPDATE Employee: You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

*UPDATE Employee: You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pay Off Your Debt!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Tried to Leave and I owed about 40 THOUSAND

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I was fooled as well and now they say I owe $30,000

*UPDATE Employee: Is all this critism "objective"?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Hyprocrites

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Back and forth, back and forth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You have a lot to learn-

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Why work for someone else....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Couple of Things -

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Negative posts are not the problem

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Negative posts are not the problem

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I Think You Might Be Confused...

*UPDATE Employee: Healthmarkets isn't going "after" anyone

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Well said

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Well said

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Well said

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I Replied to that Email - and now I'm out

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Recruiters of MEGA Agents often just as pathetic and unethical as MEGA itself

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The grass is GREENER on the other side of the fence

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Yes I was... for good reason...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: OK - I'm going to assume you are referring to me......

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Most of The Things Here You Read Are True... But Stop And Think

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

*UPDATE Employee: Wait and You will See all the FUSS

*Consumer Comment: what is all the fuss

*UPDATE Employee: MEGA Agents - do a historical study on "CAPTIVITY"

*Consumer Comment: Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

*Consumer Comment: Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

*Consumer Comment: Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

*Consumer Comment: Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

*Consumer Comment: Wow..it is all true isn't it?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just realize who's giving you the information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just realize who's giving you the information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just realize who's giving you the information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just realize who's giving you the information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Boy, I am eating my own words!

*Consumer Suggestion: Mega life plan works great for me

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: BUYERS BEWARE....5 FACTS YOU MUST READ BEFORE PURCHASING MEGA INSURANCE

*Consumer Comment: Sounds like same sales tactics used by American Republic Insurance Company

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What?

*Consumer Comment: definitely decided to look for health insurance elsewhere

*UPDATE Employee: Hi Confused

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Hi Brian

*UPDATE Employee: I Know who you met with Confused

*Consumer Comment: What about Alliance for Affordable Services?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: it's sad to see

*UPDATE Employee: Most Important Thing Current Agents Should Know!

*UPDATE Employee: Jay your leaving Mega to where?

*UPDATE Employee: Current MEGA Agent Leaving... Company has gone too far!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Advice for All Mega Agents -

*UPDATE Employee: How Do I get Out without owing so much money?

*UPDATE Employee: BIG QUESTIONS About my Status as an AGENT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: How do you explain this?

*UPDATE Employee: Negative Comments about Mega Life and Health

*UPDATE Employee: Negative Comments about Mega Life and Health

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

*Consumer Suggestion: employee or independent contractor

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Scoop on this company, the criticisms are correct

*UPDATE Employee: Problems with health insurance - ubiquitous

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Are we Defaming Mega - or Exposing them?

*UPDATE Employee: Response

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thanx MK

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Are you serious M K?

*Consumer Suggestion: NASE and MEGA Life and health are NOT the same company

*Consumer Suggestion: Insurance 101

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I hope you cancelled your policy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: UA & MEGA

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: United American Products are being sold by MEGA / NASE agents?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: So if everything is so fantastic....

*UPDATE Employee: Not Taught to Lie

*Consumer Suggestion: So Many Agents...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: USA TODAY - FRONT PAGE ARTICLE ON MEGA LIFE & HEALTH.... SEPT 5th. 2007

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jayne - your ROP Rider.....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ALL MEGA AGENTS ON YOUR WAY OUT....

*UPDATE Employee: would like independent agent advice

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Paybacks for HelpMe

*UPDATE Employee: Any Advice?

*Consumer Comment: Return of Premium

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ROP is a sales gimmick

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ROP is a sales gimmick

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ROP is a sales gimmick

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ROP is a sales gimmick

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Fluff....

*Consumer Comment: Return of Premium Benefit

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Tell your brother...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Huh?

*Consumer Comment: Figure this out for myself...

*Consumer Comment: garbage company

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Get off the fence-

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What's the source?

*UPDATE Employee: E&O

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Brian, you're UGA's worst nightmare

*UPDATE Employee: Contact

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You can Contact Me.....

*UPDATE Employee: let the ink dry on your insurance license

*UPDATE Employee: let the ink dry on your insurance license

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: please let the ink dry on your insurance license before you proceed to educate the masses about how health insurance works

*UPDATE Employee: UGA Training

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

*UPDATE Employee: I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not even close!

*Consumer Comment: Almost.....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

*UPDATE Employee: Advice?

*UPDATE Employee: Advice?

*UPDATE Employee: Advice?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Their new "awsome care one plan"

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: To John - Tulsa, OK

*Consumer Comment: Outrageous Mega/NASE premiums

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Vicious Cycle of Mega Agents....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: If Mega's so fantastic...

*UPDATE Employee: Everyone take a chill pill.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

*Consumer Comment: Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

*Consumer Comment: Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

*Consumer Comment: Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: To John in Iowa

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: This company is deceitful

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: This company is deceitful

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: This company is deceitful

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: This company is deceitful

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: BEWARE OF THE PAY!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Len in Scranton

*Consumer Suggestion: how long to get my money back?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA LIFE WARNING FOR ALL POTENTIAL REPS

*Consumer Comment: JOHN = Bxxx Shxx!!!

*Consumer Comment: THANK YOU, THANK YOU

*Consumer Suggestion: Thanks Rip Off Report

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 3 days of training and Stop with the pole signs

*UPDATE Employee: need advice

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: There are too many ex-agents complaining -there must be truth here

*Consumer Comment: Thanks

*Consumer Comment: Thanks

*Consumer Comment: Thanks

*Consumer Comment: Thanks

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Heidi......

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim - Center Valley

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim - Center Valley

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim - Center Valley

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim - Center Valley

*Consumer Comment: Hmmm... John you left out the Company you Broker for

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You're right!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You're right!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You're right!

*UPDATE Employee: This is humorous, yet scary

*Consumer Comment: JOHN WHO? DES MOINES IOWA }

*Consumer Comment: "Mother's claim" from Blain - Fort Smith, Arkansas

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Former Agent who has a conscience

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Bashing MEGA agents

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mark Zayti Trained My Managers!!!

*UPDATE Employee: Generalizations = Ignorance

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mark Zayti

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA does NOT sell MAJOR MEDICAL!!!

*Consumer Suggestion: About Those NEW PLANS.....

*Consumer Comment: Walking away

*UPDATE Employee: new plans marketed by MEGA

*Consumer Comment: Does anyone know anything about World Health Ins?

*UPDATE Employee: Nice choice Georgia!

*Consumer Suggestion: To D in Georgia

*Consumer Comment: Just signed up

*UPDATE Employee: Thats Security!

*UPDATE Employee: Thats Security!

*UPDATE Employee: Thats Security!

*UPDATE Employee: Thats Security!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Oh, by the way...

*Consumer Suggestion: Stop being ripped off

*Consumer Suggestion: Stop being ripped off

*Consumer Suggestion: Stop being ripped off

*Consumer Suggestion: Stop being ripped off

*Consumer Comment: I SWITCHED

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Call a independent broker...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Careful Roman

*Consumer Comment: WHAT SHOULD I DO?

*Consumer Comment: Good Info, may have saved me

*Consumer Comment: Clearing the air

*Consumer Comment: California customer - first impressions

*Consumer Comment: Using so many names...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Do your homework

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GOOGLE MEGA LIFE + SCAM

*UPDATE Employee: Mega Agents in it For the Money? Ask John the $15,000 per Month Man

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You're kidding, right?

*UPDATE Employee: Step Up John

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thank you, thank you John

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thank you, thank you John

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Interesting that......

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pat, stop misinforming your clients...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pat - you still don't get it

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pat - you still don't get it

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Pat - you still don't get it

*UPDATE Employee: Major Medical Out of Network?

*Consumer Suggestion: major medical sold by a non captive agent

*Consumer Comment: I was a potential Mega customer

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Mega pays what it says it will pay, nothing less, nothing more

*UPDATE Employee: You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

*UPDATE Employee: You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

*UPDATE Employee: You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

*UPDATE Employee: You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

*UPDATE Employee: Reasonable Charges??

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: On the Contrary, Blake! Do you understand that YOU are a captive agent?

*Consumer Comment: Reasonable charges explained

*UPDATE Employee: Unprofessional and Biased

*UPDATE Employee: Unprofessional and Biased

*UPDATE Employee: Unprofessional and Biased

*UPDATE Employee: Unprofessional and Biased

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: A response from my former district mngr

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: commission structure

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: UGA - A Salesperson's Dream..

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: just one more thing...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Now, to the real stuff...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I lost track Pat....

*UPDATE Employee: Back To The Past

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Thank you Amy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Todd, Cancel That Appointment!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

*UPDATE Employee: Somebody help me!

*UPDATE Employee: No Fish Hook Here

*Consumer Comment: Pat from Cabot your opinion rings hollow

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Really?

*UPDATE Employee: Mega Life and Health 2006 (HealthMarkets)

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim - you're wrong - - you're instrumental in leading people into possible bankruptcy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jim, Thanks for the head's up....MEGA still doesn't have annual deductible!!!

*Consumer Comment: Dodged a bullet

*UPDATE Employee: An Agents Comments

*UPDATE Employee: Independent Agent

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just be careful with the debt, though

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Don't stress about paying them back

*UPDATE Employee: Clean Break

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Waste of time and money

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Waste of time and money

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Waste of time and money

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Waste of time and money

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wise choice Freddy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wise choice Freddy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Wise choice Freddy

*UPDATE Employee: Wonderful Information

*UPDATE Employee: Wonderful Information

*UPDATE Employee: Wonderful Information

*UPDATE Employee: Wonderful Information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Congratulation, A!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Congratulation, A!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: NAIC info from State of MD

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Bravo, Amy, bravo

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA Agent Chris from Atlanta, How dare you call me lazy!!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Leave while you can

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Leave while you can

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Leave while you can

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Leave while you can

*UPDATE Employee: Oh my word

*Consumer Suggestion: Thank God I Found This Site In Time

*Consumer Suggestion: Thank God I Found This Site In Time

*Consumer Suggestion: Thank God I Found This Site In Time

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Leonardo IS right.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: just read it! no one here is trying to bash a competitor...and no one here is "jealous"...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Chris - I worked with you a couple months ago....wake up bud

*Consumer Comment: Ex Mega Life Policy Holder

*UPDATE Employee: again

*Consumer Comment: Thanks to those who contributed to this discussion, you saved me a crummy experience!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Very well thought out Amy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I TOO AM A RECENT VICTIM

*UPDATE Employee: MEGA Lies, MEGA Deceives

*Consumer Suggestion: How to get the best health coverage and avoid ripoff

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: John- Des Moines. you are on fire.

*Consumer Comment: Laura. Did anyone tell you you might not be eligible for Health insurance.

*Consumer Comment: Stephen - you're a liar

*Consumer Comment: Stephen - you're a liar

*Consumer Comment: Stephen - you're a liar

*Consumer Comment: Stephen - you're a liar

*Consumer Comment: Does this seem fair?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Did someone say 20.00 dr office visits?

*Consumer Comment: NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

*Consumer Comment: NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

*Consumer Comment: NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

*Consumer Comment: NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

*Consumer Suggestion: You are Right, I am Wrong...Does This Make You Happy

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not enough.

*Consumer Suggestion: I Did Some Research

*Consumer Suggestion: I Did Some Research

*Consumer Suggestion: I Did Some Research

*Consumer Suggestion: I Did Some Research

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Resonse to Laura

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: He's absolutely right.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Are you kidding me?

*Consumer Comment: Competition Bashing is Not Very Professional

*UPDATE Employee: Balanced billing

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Balance billing

*UPDATE Employee: Top Mega Agents Rare Breed

*Consumer Suggestion: Listen up everyone

*Consumer Comment: Hard advice to follow

*Consumer Suggestion: Shop and Compare

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ex Agent of Mega Life/NASE

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: to john from miiami beach

*Consumer Suggestion: NASE - does nothing for small business

*UPDATE Employee: hey john from miami beach

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MID-WEST MEGA LIFE SCAM SCAM SCAM FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD

*Consumer Comment: Blue Cross Blue Shield For Me Please

*Consumer Comment: Mega Screw Up

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What??? Four to one larger

*UPDATE Employee: I'm a present agent with MEGA and believe this is the best health insurance in the country.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MEGA + MID-WEST = U FILE BANKRUPTCY! TRUTH TOLD! ..this pathetic excuse for health insurance

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look around you!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Actually Mike....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Actually Mike....

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Actually Mike....

*Consumer Suggestion: Will and "Anywhere Maryland"

*Consumer Suggestion: The NASE agent's rebuttal is a load of crap (ex-ins agent)

*Author of original report: Sorry but yes it is a problem. Attorney General's don't seem to agree with you

*UPDATE Employee: Health Care In America

*UPDATE Employee: NASE and MEGA are good companies

*Author of original report: NASE and MEGA too-close for comfort

*Author of original report: NASE and MEGA too-close for comfort

*Author of original report: NASE and MEGA too-close for comfort

*Author of original report: NASE and MEGA too-close for comfort

*UPDATE Employee: I'm sorry you didn't understand what you were buying

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I was a member of NASE aka Mega Life. I had an insurance policy before but I gave it up when NASE offered me a plan for the same amount. Since they represent self-employed persons alledgedly, they have extra benefits that I thought would be useful.

I think I paid somewhere in the area of $200 to $250 a month for a single person, age 35-40, non-smoker, and living in California.

At any rate, when I actually USED any service I always had to foot the vast majority of the bill! I'd get a lab test done that cost $90 and they would pay something like $12 of it. I'd have a doctor's visit for $125 and they'd pay something like $20 of it. It was ridiculous. A total waste of money.

It wasn't really an "insurance" plan so much as a "discount" plan. Nothing at all like any other plan I've been on. I would highly recommend you get a real schedule of service with real dollars for various types of tests that they will pay and compare it with the same from another carrier.

Aside from all this, it was presented to me as an association for self-employed which also just happened to provice a health plan. In reality NASE has very close ties to the insurer Mega Health and so they are just insurance salesmen, not looking out for the welfare of their customers as self-employed. Just abusing that perspective to sell insurance.

Will
Aptos, California
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

$17 Million Lawsuit

AUTHOR: Brian Norton - (U.S.A.)

AH - Whats a $17 million dollar dent gonna do to Mega? .....not much more than continue to trash their name and validate all of our claims that Mega/HealthMarkets is a mess.

http://www.boston.com/business/healthcare/articles/2009/09/01/mega_life_settles_for_record_17m/

The practices of this particular company were really among the most egregious weve ever seen, Selig said.

Amen Mr. Selig......After 6 years of dealing with this company, I would have to agree.


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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I worked for them in the 90's

AUTHOR: M. - (U.S.A.)

People, I am an ex-agent with NASE and the MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company. I peddled their insurance plans in the 90's. All I can say is do your research. Stay away from benefit driven services steered into selling you an insurance policy. In order to buy the insurance policy, you have to be a member. Plans like this are always tied into and affiliated with the insurance company.

With sales tactics like this, it's a wonder that they are still around and offering these ridiculous policies that are nothing but filled with gaps and holes.

Contact your state insurance commissioner and do your research. Google the would-be company you are considering doing business with. If the company has a "rap sheet" the length of a major expressway, that is a pretty good indication that you will have future problems.

All I can say is Blue Cross, Assurant Health (formerly Fortis), Kaiser Permanente, and others are very good companies. Their track records speak for themselves. MEGA and other benefit driven insurance companies have paid hefty fines to state regulators and insurance commissioners for their ridiculous health plans. Why else do you think they change their name?

If you ask ANY reputable independent agent/broker about these programs, this is why they laugh. Their complaint history on ripoffreport.com, the BBB, state insurance regulators are miles long. When you buy health insurance, you are buying health insurance. If you want business benefits, get a membership to Sam's Club or COSTCO. It's that simple. You don't mix the two. I kind of compare this with buying a variable annuity. Why would you do this when you could buy a mutual fund 2-4% cheaper? In the investment world (which I actively work), you do not mix investments with insurance. They should always be purchased separately and not intertwined.

The bottom line is you pay for what you get and if you pay a little more with a reputable company, it's most likely that you will have no problems at claim time.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

HEALTHMARKETS IS STILL MEGA LIFE & HEALTH!!!!

AUTHOR: Mega Blows - (U.S.A.)

MEGA IS UNDERGOING AN MAJOR PUSH TO NEVER SAY THE NAME "MEGA AGAIN"......ONLY PROBLEM....IT STILL IS MEGA.

ITS FUNNY - CALL ANY MEGA AGENT AS ASK 'UM, AREN'T YOU GUYS MEGA" AND THEY WILL SAY ...OH NO, WE ARE HEALTHMARKETS!! HAHAHAHHA

GEE, I WONDER WHY THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THEIR OWN COMPANY'S NAME IN RECRUITING, SELLING AND MARKETING THEIR PRODUCT????

COULD IT BE REASONS LIKE A RIPOFFREPORT THRED 10 MILES LONG?

JUST WAIT - THERE WILL BE A NEW TREAD JUST AS LONG UNDER "HEALTHMARKETS" INSTEAD OF MEGA.

HEY MEGA - IF YOU FOUGHT TO PAY YOUR CLAIMS AS HARD AS YOU DO TO CHANGE YOUR COMPANY NAME EVERY 2 WEEKS, THEN YOU MAY ACTUALLY HAVE A DECENT COMPANY!!
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Nice....

AUTHOR: Mega Blows - (U.S.A.)

Michael - after reading all of the post above and you are still interested in getting into a career with these guys, then you deserve them. First hand experience with them will teach you the best.

Unsure - happy to see you are having success. However, you are not a broker. Brokers are completely independent and on their own - direct with the insurance companies, generally getting paid "as earned." My understanding is that you are under a manager (or two) of an organization that pays you advances and offers you leads, trips, etc.....and you in turn offer this to agents below you? Or am I mistaken?

Nothing wrong with it, as it's what I have preached all along. Just don't want ex-mega agents that are leaving to think that they should go be brokers.....as they will surely struggle unless they can go 6+ months without earning a normal paycheck.

Good luck with your continued success!
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

My Story Continued

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Well, I have been out for awhile. Feel free to look at my responses from last year. I became a BROKER and it was well worth it. I was scared at first, but in reality, there is nothing to be scared about. I would NEVER sell those Mega plans again. Not to mention, Mega plans dont EVEN EXIST anymore.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

looks like the fighting died down

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

I read the whole list of responses and looks like the fighting has finally ended. I was employed by BCBS and was laid off because of their dealings with the United Healthcare fines. I also think too that the bickering going on here was more of a misunderstanding of how companies sell their individual products. I am going to look into getting a interview with Mega/Heathmarkets because you always complain about the ones that take away the most of your business.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Mega Life and Health Insurance constantly increases their premiums

AUTHOR: Brett - (U.S.A.)

I am currently a customer of Mega life and Health. Every few months I will receive an letter from them stating that my monthly premiums will be increased. In 2008 along, they have increased nearly $40. I am a 25 year old non-smoking male and have never even used this policy. The company is garbage and so was the broker who sold me this policy. After one to many increases I will definitely be cancelling this policy for a company that doesn't try to rip you off every 3 months.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Healthmarkets on Monster

AUTHOR: Rob - (U.S.A.)

I just looked up my old DM's ads on Monster (Allentown, PA zip code 18104) for the fun of it. He's placed 4 ads since September 22nd. The reason is that they rotate through so many people in their district and can't keep people for more than a month. Once these agents get out and start selling, they realize that it is crap and leave!

To anyone who is even considering an interview with UGA: don't bother to waste your time. You will be smooth talked into signing up right away, without an actual interview.
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Show up to a interview and save the others with the truth

AUTHOR: Bubbabee - (U.S.A.)

Please do go to a interview show, you will be surrounded by others wanting to improve their lives. Tell them the truth about this company and how it has hurt so many people its a miracle they are still in business. Then call your senator and demand they be shut down ! Its time America said enough of your B.S. and let the management run back under the rock they came out from. I was there but left after seeing the deal first hand. Adios Healthmarkets - its slowly falling apart....
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

AUTHOR: Billy - (U.S.A.)

If you have an interview with Uga to sell Mega health insurance do your self a favor and run.
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

AUTHOR: Billy - (U.S.A.)

If you have an interview with Uga to sell Mega health insurance do your self a favor and run.
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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

AUTHOR: Billy - (U.S.A.)

If you have an interview with Uga to sell Mega health insurance do your self a favor and run.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

stay away from uga, health markets, mega, and nase

AUTHOR: Billy - (U.S.A.)

If you have an interview with Uga to sell Mega health insurance do your self a favor and run.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What???

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jay - you need to get your facts straight before you sling your accusations. I don't know who you are talking to.

I'm not aware of any pending litigations against me. Perhaps you know something I don't. If Mega choses to sue me, then they will have to prove that I have done something wrong and caused them provable damages.

On the flip side, we have some of the best attorneys in the COUNTRY based right in Texas and they are very aware of Mega's ways. We are presently working on a class action suit from thousands of agents that were lied to and deceived by Mega, which caused huge numbers of agents to go bankrupt and many to lose marriages and family relationships, along with association health problems and depression.

You have the guts to jump on this board and accuse me of decieving agents, when I am their biggest advocate against Mega. So why don't you stop fighting me and get on board with the program?

Your comment about holding commissions is just plain wrong. We work with the nations largest marketing org's and MGA's which each reach close to $100 million AV a year. Several of our carriers pay the agents direct. So, I don't pay anyone....therefore I don't have the capability of withholding- even if I wanted to.

Why don't you send me an email and I will send you our 10 page list of agent testimonials who will take home the biggest 1099 of their career this year?

If I offended you, I'm sorry. I don't wish to take up this blog between you and I any longer.
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#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Eat Crow and choke on it

AUTHOR: Bubbabee - (U.S.A.)

The reason we are on here raising hell is that we have been screwed by this company, as you will too eventually. Open your eyes to the fact that this company is a scam and their policy's are well beneath industry standards.You pay interest on everything, thats the catch. You seen honorable, so buck up and leave while you can - go indendent with Aetna or United Health with a true major medical, not some half-a*s health plan that doesnt cover squat.

Adios Uga & the Berry's who lie like a rug - Its on in Va baby get a lawyer
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#16 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Eating Crow?

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Brian from Michigan...

You accuse MEGA of deceptive practices yet you use this site to attract agents and do not tell them the entire story about yourself. Maybe you should let people know about pending litigation your company is facing for deceptive practices, keeping agent's commissions, altering contracts.... or will you simply try and pass this off as paranoia?
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#17 UPDATE Employee

Mega Corporate Level Mission Statement

AUTHOR: Mega Blows - (U.S.A.)

Here's the Mission Statement that Mega had posted at their corporate offices:


We will effectively increase our profit margins in two ways:

1) We will offer limited benefit coverage at regular prices to first time buying, unsuspecting small business owners via our inexperienced UGA field force.

2) We will deceptively cause thousands for undeserving Americans to go bankrupt (even though they thought they had full health coverage) by hiding behind our fine print contracts which we know most of them don't read (cause if they do, well...then they won't buy...duh).

We will successfully accomplish this by teaching our Division Leaders and their Managers to lie to their newly recruited agents about how to sell insurance honestly. In addition, our Managers will shelter their little droids from the outside world and our ENEMY competition that offers real Major Medical insurance at prices we can't compete with. We will threaten to sue any recruiter that contacts our little mushrooms.

With great pride and loyalty, our ether sucking green horns will pound the pavement everyday, while we pay them squat commissions. In doing so, they will commit to omitting all the important aspects of the coverage, (like RX limitations, LTMax limits, per occurrence deductibles, Etc). We will wisely teach them to memorize their presentations and spend 70% of their time talking about extremely important areas like "road side assistance" offered by our bed buddies - the NASE.

Once the agents see that they were lied to and deceived and wish to leave, we will force them by law to pay back all of the loans we gave them...which are usually very high because everyone cancels our coverage once they use it. In other words, we hope to run them into the ground if they should decide to leave....but if they should choose to stay, we will give them continual false hope that they will cash out in 10 years with a million dollars in "stock" that we offer, hehjee (what a bunch of idiots)......

Finally, if we ever run into a jam where there is just too much negative media and our complaint ratios run off the charts....then we will simply market ourselves under a new name...all in the sake of protecting our high level Corporate money hungry *&%*heads like Troy McQuage who we had to cash out with over $5 Million right after his scandalous acts of bribing government officials to not sue us were brought to light.....(who's living large now with one of his whores in some mansion...which we are all secretly envious of and will probably do the same thing eventually).

We encourage all people of all walks of life (bus drivers, electricians, construction works, car salesman) to check out our amazing opportunity to make millions of dollars selling something you really won't know about until after a big group rah rah interview is over and you are really smitten by our Division President's charming personality!

Good luck - you'll need it

Your Leaders at:

Mega Life & Health...and NASE....and AFS...oh and Cornerstone....yes and lets not forget Midwest National Life of TN....oh and our wonderful UGA field force (the greatest sales force in the entire country, where "agent is King") ....and yes, our parent billionaire company that thinks of us as black sheep, Blackstone.
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#18 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Guilty as charged your honor

AUTHOR: Bubbabee - (U.S.A.)

I'm wondering how much evidence you need to see that you almost purchased a turd ? Go to a independent agent and buy a Major Medical Plan, then you will be protected. Peace out
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#19 Consumer Comment

I think I've reached my verdict.

AUTHOR: Warren - (U.S.A.)

I'm in the middle of trying to choose an insurance provider and I think I was fortunate to come across this thread.

I haven't been able to read the whole thread, but I've been reading for about 3 hours and I've made some observations about the comments here that made up my mind about how I feel about this provider.

First, nearly ALL of the defense for this company has been from salespeople within the company. There's nothing positive coming from their customers, or from experts in an impartial position.

Second, I do find it highly suspect that they use group interviews to hire. I've been involved with companies that use group interviews before and I know why they happen. It's a tactic for creating hype and psyching people up so they don't care what they're selling and so they'll stick with the company no matter how much discouraging stuff they hear about it.

Thirdly, All the salespeople give numbers and facts to defend the company, but I find these meaningless. Partly because I don't always understand them, and partly because even if I did, they wouldn't give the whole picture. Unsatisfied customers and Ex-salespeople keep telling us how the numbers and facts didn't match the results. There was always something hidden.

And Finally, The defense for this company hasn't been doing a very good job at addressing the concerns people have brought up here. For instance, one poster presented a statistic showing that MEGA had a complaint ratio FIVE TIMES higher than the competition and even asked specifically for someone to address this. No one did.

That, I think, is the clincher. If a company gets that many complaints and can't justify it, then what else matters?

I hear salespeople talking about how "no plan is right for everyone" and "you should be sure and know what you're buying" and "sure, every company has a few unscrupulous or uninformed salespeople". Sure, these are true statements.

But in lieu of MEGA's complaint ratio, is MEGA even right for anyone? Does MEGA even make a decent effort to help people know what they're buying, or do they purposefully cover it up? Why do they seem to be KNOWN for having uninformed or unscrupulous salespeople? Are there ANY satisfied customers out there?

And really, somebody tell me please, WHY do they have a five-times-higher complaint ratio?
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#20 Consumer Comment

I think I've reached my verdict.

AUTHOR: Warren - (U.S.A.)

I'm in the middle of trying to choose an insurance provider and I think I was fortunate to come across this thread.

I haven't been able to read the whole thread, but I've been reading for about 3 hours and I've made some observations about the comments here that made up my mind about how I feel about this provider.

First, nearly ALL of the defense for this company has been from salespeople within the company. There's nothing positive coming from their customers, or from experts in an impartial position.

Second, I do find it highly suspect that they use group interviews to hire. I've been involved with companies that use group interviews before and I know why they happen. It's a tactic for creating hype and psyching people up so they don't care what they're selling and so they'll stick with the company no matter how much discouraging stuff they hear about it.

Thirdly, All the salespeople give numbers and facts to defend the company, but I find these meaningless. Partly because I don't always understand them, and partly because even if I did, they wouldn't give the whole picture. Unsatisfied customers and Ex-salespeople keep telling us how the numbers didn't match the results.

And Finally, The defense for this company hasn't been doing a very good job at addressing the concerns people have brought up here. For instance, one poster presented a statistic showing that MEGA had a complaint ratio FIVE TIMES higher than the competition and even asked specifically for someone to address this. No one did.

That, I think, is the clincher. If a company gets that many complaints and can't justify it, then what else matters?

I hear salespeople talking about how "no plan is right for everyone" and "you should be sure and know what you're buying" and "sure, every company has a few unscrupulous or uninformed salespeople". Sure, these are true statements.

But in lieu of MEGA's complaint ratio, is MEGA even right for anyone? Does MEGA even make a decent effort to help people know what they're buying, or do they purposefully cover it up? Why do they seem to be KNOWN for having uninformed or unscrupulous salespeople? Are there ANY satisfied customers out there?

And really, somebody tell me please, WHY do they have a five-times-higher complaint ratio?
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I have reached my verdict.

AUTHOR: Warren - (U.S.A.)

I'm in the middle of trying to choose an insurance provider and I think I was fortunate to come across this thread.

I haven't been able to read the whole thread, but I've been reading for about 3 hours and I've made some observations about the comments here that made up my mind about how I feel about this provider.

First, nearly ALL of the defense for this company has been from salespeople within the company. There's nothing positive coming from their customers, or from experts in an impartial position.

Second, I do find it highly suspect that they use group interviews to hire. I've been involved with companies that use group interviews before and I know why they happen. It's a tactic for creating hype and psyching people up so they don't care what they're selling and so they'll stick with the company no matter how much discouraging stuff they hear about it.

Thirdly, All the salespeople give numbers and facts to defend the company, but I find these meaningless. Partly because I don't always understand them, and partly because even if I did, they wouldn't give the whole picture. Unsatisfied customers and Ex-salespeople keep telling us how the numbers and facts didn't match the results. There was always something hidden.

And Finally, The defense for this company hasn't been doing a very good job at addressing the concerns people have brought up here. For instance, one poster presented a statistic showing that MEGA had a complaint ratio FIVE TIMES higher than the competition and even asked specifically for someone to address this. No one did.

That, I think, is the clincher. If a company gets that many complaints and can't justify it, then what else matters?

I hear salespeople talking about how "no plan is right for everyone" and "you should be sure and know what you're buying" and "sure, every company has a few unscrupulous or uninformed salespeople". Sure, these are true statements.

But in lieu of MEGA's complaint ratio, is MEGA even right for anyone? Does MEGA even make a decent effort to help people know what they're buying, or do they purposefully cover it up? Why do they seem to be KNOWN for having uninformed or unscrupulous salespeople? Are there ANY satisfied customers out there?

And really, somebody tell me please, WHY do they have a five-times-higher complaint ratio?
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#22 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Regarding those lower Ratings......

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jay from Chicago (and others) -I find this a bit humorous.

Go back to my post on 4/9 regarding the ratings being lowered, and then look at your response right after it......criticizing me about letting it out to all and that Blackstone will come after me.

Now, 3 1/2 months later your see it fit to post practically the same thing.....??

First of all - Get with the program!
Second - Blackstone never came after me.
Third, we still continue to bring agents to the light everyday. With all the problems at Mega (I.E. ABOVE)- NOW MORE THAN EVER!!! Agents can reach me on my email posted above.
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#23 UPDATE EX-employee responds

How many Mega agents are eating Crow now?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

For Immediate Release: Friday, August 15, 2008

*State Insurance Regulators Levy $20 Million Penalty Against Subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc.*

COLUMBUS Ohio Department of Insurance Director Mary Jo Hudson announced that Ohio will receive nearly $541,000 in civil penalties as part of a $20 million dollar regulatory settlement agreement between 29 jurisdictions and MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company and Chesapeake Life Insurance Company, subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc, now known as UICI.
The companies involved with this settlement are addressing some serious violations of our consumer protection laws, said Director Hudson.
The regulatory settlement follows a three-year multi-state exam led by Washington and Alaska and assisted by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC). The exam found multiple problems involving consumer disclosure, oversight and training of agents, claims handling and complaint-handling practices. The subsidiaries of HealthMarkets face up to $10 million in additional penalties if they fail to meet performance standards outlined in the settlement.
According to the terms of the settlement, the companies must implement an outreach program that includes the following:
Sending a notice to all existing policyholders whose medical policies were issued prior to Aug. 1, 2005, that includes a toll-free number, mailing address and e-mail address where policyholders can ask questions about their coverage. The notice also must include a Web site address for each company.
Ensuring each method of communication is staffed by someone able to provide detailed information about the policyholder's specific plan.
Establishing a web site with a frequently asked questions section, general coverage descriptions, a listing of contact information and information on how to appeal a claim or file a grievance.
In addition, the companies must report progress twice a year through Dec. 31, 2009, on performance standards targeted for improvement.
There are 13 areas in need of improvement, including:
Agent training and oversight
Claims handling
Identification of company
Transparency of the companies' relationship with associations
Complaints and grievances
Cancellation, nonrenewal and discontinuance notices
Establishing and maintaining a compliance program
The multi-state examination was initiated as a collaborative action under a single umbrella through the NAIC because the companies were the targets of separate investigations and consumer lawsuits in several individual states. Although violations were documented and fines levied in individual state exams, the companies' actions and complaint histories had not significantly improved at the time the multi-state examination was initiated.
The examination covers a five-year period ending Dec. 31, 2005, and stemmed from the volume, scope and nature of complaints made against the companies by consumers in many states, including Ohio.
According to the findings, the companies targeted their sales to self-employed individuals and sold the health plans through associations. MEGA agents sold policies through the National Association for the Self-Employed (NASE), and Americans for Financial Security (AFS). Mid-West agents sold plans through the Alliance for Affordable Services (AAS). In many instances, the agent or the company did not adequately explain the benefits covered by the health plan.
To date, jurisdictions that have adopted the settlement agreement include: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, Montana, North Carolina, Nebraska, New Jersey, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming. Additional states may join the settlement before an Aug. 18, 2008, deadline.
Ohioans with questions concerning insurance are encouraged to call the Department's consumer services hotline, 1-800-686-1526. Additional tips and more information about insurance, including a link to the Insure U web site, can be found at the Department's web site, www.ohioinsurance.gov .
Ohio Department of Insurance Contacts:

Robert Denhard, Public Information Officer
(614) 644-3366

Jarrett Dunbar, Public Information Officer
(614) 644-2475
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#24 UPDATE Employee

You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

AUTHOR: Lee - (U.S.A.)

Wait, so let me get this straight. You think Mega took money from you?

That is naive.

You worked for commissions and were paid advances by the company on the good faith that the policies you sold were good, quality products that would stay on the books for at least 6 months. NO ONE held a gun to your head and said take the money. It was a loan they gave you and you quit. Now you owe the money.

I don't owe any money and have a great living.
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#25 UPDATE Employee

You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

AUTHOR: Lee - (U.S.A.)

Wait, so let me get this straight. You think Mega took money from you?

That is naive.

You worked for commissions and were paid advances by the company on the good faith that the policies you sold were good, quality products that would stay on the books for at least 6 months. NO ONE held a gun to your head and said take the money. It was a loan they gave you and you quit. Now you owe the money.

I don't owe any money and have a great living.
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#26 UPDATE Employee

You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

AUTHOR: Lee - (U.S.A.)

Wait, so let me get this straight. You think Mega took money from you?

That is naive.

You worked for commissions and were paid advances by the company on the good faith that the policies you sold were good, quality products that would stay on the books for at least 6 months. NO ONE held a gun to your head and said take the money. It was a loan they gave you and you quit. Now you owe the money.

I don't owe any money and have a great living.
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#27 UPDATE Employee

You Owe Money Because You Borrowed It

AUTHOR: Lee - (U.S.A.)

Wait, so let me get this straight. You think Mega took money from you?

That is naive.

You worked for commissions and were paid advances by the company on the good faith that the policies you sold were good, quality products that would stay on the books for at least 6 months. NO ONE held a gun to your head and said take the money. It was a loan they gave you and you quit. Now you owe the money.

I don't owe any money and have a great living.
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#28 UPDATE EX-employee responds

New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

As of July 24th, 2008:

Financial Strength Ratings
Rating: B++ (Good)
Affiliation Code: g (Group)
Financial Size Category: VIII ($100 Million to $250 Million)
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Effective Date: July 24, 2008

Issuer Credit Ratings
Long-Term: bbb+
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Date: July 24, 2008
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New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

As of July 24th, 2008:

Financial Strength Ratings
Rating: B++ (Good)
Affiliation Code: g (Group)
Financial Size Category: VIII ($100 Million to $250 Million)
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Effective Date: July 24, 2008

Issuer Credit Ratings
Long-Term: bbb+
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Date: July 24, 2008
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New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

As of July 24th, 2008:

Financial Strength Ratings
Rating: B++ (Good)
Affiliation Code: g (Group)
Financial Size Category: VIII ($100 Million to $250 Million)
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Effective Date: July 24, 2008

Issuer Credit Ratings
Long-Term: bbb+
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Date: July 24, 2008
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New AM Best Ratings - MEGA Downgraded from A- to B++

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

As of July 24th, 2008:

Financial Strength Ratings
Rating: B++ (Good)
Affiliation Code: g (Group)
Financial Size Category: VIII ($100 Million to $250 Million)
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Effective Date: July 24, 2008

Issuer Credit Ratings
Long-Term: bbb+
Outlook: Negative
Action: Downgraded
Date: July 24, 2008
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#32 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Pay Off Your Debt!

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Do not listen to anyone who tells you to ignore Mega and not pay them back. If an agent owes ANY insurance company money, not just Mega, and you do not pay them back you will get a vector filed againsed you and you will not be able to contract with any insurance company until that is resolved.
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#33 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tried to Leave and I owed about 40 THOUSAND

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Yep,

I tried leaving with a $40K Debt. You can call the company and ask them to reverse your stock contributions and have it apply to your debt. That helped me. But they will only retro back quarterly.

I have heard a lot of people say not to pay a penny back.
I have heard people say ignore them
I have heard people say write them a letter saying you elect to have your renewals pay off your debt. However, the moment you are not contracted and fall out of good standing your renewal commissions get cut big time

Good Luck. If anyone else wants to share about exactly HOW to do this let us all know.
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I was fooled as well and now they say I owe $30,000

AUTHOR: Ms. Terri T. - (U.S.A.)

First, please excuse my writing, English is my second language. I also worked for (Midwest) in California. The management seemed nice. I came from the computer field. At the time, I lost my job and was fighting an ugly battle with my former employer. A very nice woman from Midwest called me and ask if I'd like to come in for an interview for a job to be my own boss. I could not wait to go to the interview.

Well, we all know how those things go, and now I'm not sure if I should be ashamed or grateful for learning my lesson. I paid the money, I knew nothing about insurance except what I was told by the managers. To look back, I was braking so many rules and misrepresenting the product the way I was taught. The first year I did everything my manager told me to do. After awhile I was making good money. Nothing like working in the computer field. But my manager told me, it takes time, and she believes in me and that I could do it. I was making about $3500 a month and I just knew I was going to make so much more as time went on. Well, I bought a very small house at the end of the housing boom. Then, after I was living the American dream. The people started to cancel their policies. In one week 3 people screamed at me saying that the insurance did not work! I was very depressed and did not sell for 3 weeks. My manager came to my house and again told me, how she believed in me, and that I was the only sale person in my ethnic group and that I was bound to be a top producer and that these people must have lied on the application, as to not have their claims paid. Well I did start selling again and this time I made it to number 24 in the company by the end of the year. I went on a very nice trip with the company. Then in January, the policies I sold to my own community started to cancel. I called everyone to get them to reinstate, I was told, the insurance does not work, over and over. I could not sleep, I got ulcers and felt very guilty. Not everyone I sold too could have lied on the application. So I left.

I got a letter stating that I owed $30,000 dollars. I almost fainted. After pulling myself back together I applied for a job as a (&&&) P & C rep. I have been there for 3 years now.

I went to school for P & C, paid for in total by (&&&), I was given a base salary and bonuses, 401k with co. matching, full health and life ins. I have never paid for anything, all our leads come from the company and walk in business is how I make my money. Besides the fact that this is a very good product. I have it, and my mother has it.

I want to say I'm sorry for selling this insurance to everyone I sold too, please forgive me.

Thank you for reading, I hope you find your peace.

Terri T.
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#35 UPDATE Employee

Is all this critism "objective"?

AUTHOR: Nitehawk - (U.S.A.)

I'm newly affiliated with NASE in my area so I do not have a huge investment yet. I am also NOT a newby (licensed for life and A&H for more than 10 years). But given the number of people who will swear to something as they remember that may have no relation to reality I have to ask the following.

How many of those who say they were sold a "crap" policy actually read what they were getting or asked the agent presenting any questions.

If you asked the questions did you LISTEN to the responses given or did you hear what you CHOSE to hear.

How many of you who were "enlightened" after that fact got your information from one of those "objective independent" agents that certainly have nothing to gain from slamming a competitor.

I don't, to my knowledge, know any of the posters on this thread. But if there is any producer out there who can hoestly say they have NEVER given straight skinny to a prospect/client and have something TOTALLY different read back I need to practice where you live.

If any of you as consumers have NEVER had ANY salesman/broker/rep/consultant mis-state a fact (assuming it was really stated as you recall and it was not a flat out crook you were dealing with) I want you to screen the vendors I deal with.

The sad fact (actually one of many) is that today, especially with the advent of the internet, everybody is an "instant expert". From cars to insurance to computers everyone is able to find a site that will make them an expert on buying anything. Just don't confuse them with the facts. Further proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. And of course none of those claiminig to have been ripped off could have any culpability in the matter.

I'm still doing my due dilegence, but so far the number of complaints vs the total volume seems to be on the side of this vendor. So I will at least give it a chance. And I will be sure to let my contacts know how they can reach me, and to do so if they feel I have misled them in some (any) way.

Oh, BTW, there was an earlier post that I think siad something like "no company can rate-up and/or cacel on an individual basis". According to the training I took (also covered in CE - that's 'continuing education' Joe) while neither a true group plan or an associated plan can rate-up or cancel on an individual basis an "independant/individual" plan can and does. And be sure to check out how much BCBS has raised their rates ACROSS THE BOARD on average the last few years.

TTFN
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#36 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Hyprocrites

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

I think the direction needs to change on this board toward helping policyholders and clients a little more- so I'm gonna post this and be done for a while with this board.

These guys with all the broker advice have never really recruited anyone, let alone a Mega agent, allthough they most likely left because someone sent them and email and recruited them, worked with them and helped them leave, but in the 11th hour, they stabbed them in the back and chose to go down a different path without that person who helped them leave. It's a classic scenario.

They think that by sitting passively on the sidelines and speaking nothing of the problems at Mega when need be, it will get them somewhere with mega agents and earn them grand respect. They fully admit that Mega is a terrible, decietful place - but put down anyone who tries to say it in a recruiting email or blog...... stating that an invitation via mass email is wrong - while the reality is that no one's life will ever change because of their sideline contributions.

All the points about being a broker are true. but most of the mega, cornerstone, midwest agents i have seen that go brokers and get paid as earned go broke within 12 months-

Typical Mega Agent scenario: pushing hard to write 10K av/week consistency in order to make $750-1,000, no real sales trianing on how to sell properly, unknowingly decieving clients when they compare mega to thier competitors and losing sales left and right to competition, manager driving them nuts, manager taking all the cobra leads and giving them the left overs, sick and tired of paying for 80% of the their own leads, driving 500 miles a week with no-shows and burger king for lunch everyday, not selling enough to win any awards or trips, never see their little kids and wife working 65 hours a week at odd times, bringing home a 1099 of $43,000 while paying out $20K in over-head, in debt to Mega by at least $10-15K, late on their mortgage with $700 in credit card bills a month/mostly going to interest, 70% taken rate becuase of underwriting and clients dropping off, and scared, alone, desperate, feeling decieved, wronged and manipulated, wondering why they every chose to spend the time to get licensed and join this whole gig.

Then they get an email. And they think - could this be true? Could I actually make more money and spend time with my familiy???? So they work up the guts to email or call us, and after an hour conversation, they are filling out thier paperwork. 2 weeks later, they make more in 1 week than in a month previously. We have a 95% closing ratio of Mega agents that talk to us. But its not us - its the opportunity.

Sales 101- INVITE. Most mega producers, don't even understand thier own deal, let alone ours, so we must INVITE them to a better opportunity. We rarely talk about the problems there, because agents already know there are problems. Everyone has a different hot point. talking about the problems would take all day. We talk about what we do, and it's over.

If the invitation is too bold, well then doooooon't respond. If you are offended, ask yourself why? Cry if you want - post it if you want, but you will probably do it after you have left- so it worked...... The truth hurts when someone points it out and you don't want to hear it. If you don't know how ethical somone is, ask for testimonials of at least 5 other agents that left to them recently.

MEGA AGENTS - YOU DON'T NEED FLUFF, YOU NEED FACTS! call it whatever you want, if you are on the fence then you need some IN-YOUR-FACE honesty about they real story of your present situation- or else you will not see it necessary to make the changes you and your family need to make!

You need a reputable organization to help you succeed. You need a good mentor to walk you through the entire process. You need to make $300K/year! You need to never lose your book of business and have a product for every need and grow that $300K book untile you wish to retire on it. You don't need to be a broker and go broke-'r' out of fear of people like me. i've never scewed anyone.... I've put my email in previous post. Anyone looking to change thier life, I'm here along with my extrememly qualified mangers. you can't change unless we invite. Spend an hour on the phone with us and make your own decisions.

Good luck to all!!

Signing out -
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#37 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Back and forth, back and forth

AUTHOR: Chuck - (U.S.A.)

Okay, I'm going to weigh in again.

This thread seems to have devolved into a ping-pong match between one ex-agent telling us to abandon MEGA and work as an agent (for him), and another ex-agent saying it's better abandon MEGA and sell direct. So here's my unbiased, unfettered opinion. Take it for what it's worth.

First, and importantly, both of these people agree on one thing: Get out of MEGA. Yes, MEGA has improved their product somewhat. Yes, MEGA and Healthmarkets has been recognized by Selling Power magazine for being the best insurance sales organization in the world. I guess their ability to sell such a high volume of an inferior product is worthy of recognition - although it's the same sort of rueful admiration one reserves for a snake oil salesman at a carnival who happens to be very good at finding his marks. That one shouldn't buy or represent MEGA has been well established in this thread.

As far as how one should continue (or salvage) an insurance career started in MEGA, there's really two ways to go, as these ex-agents have described.

One method is to simply apply for appointments with major, reputable carriers and sell direct. You'll need at least one million dollars of E&O (errors and omissions, i.e. malpractice) insurance to get your appointments, which will cost you about $800 to $1000 per year. This option is for people who have a large cash reserve and who have extra to invest in buying plenty of quality leads.

Since you will not be receiving advances on sales, you will not receive income until you start receiving commissions from the insurer. This will take months to gain an appreciable amount for reinvestment and even longer to gain significant profit. Nevertheless, you will not be paying overrides on your policies, so the upside is greater - the business is yours and yours alone.

Is this the wrong way to restart your insurance career? Absolutely not, but it is exactly like starting your own business: you must be financially prepared to invest in your efforts like any other start-up business, otherwise you will fail.

The other way to go is to join a brokerage and exchange part of your take (your commissions, which will go to your manager as an override) for the privilege of receiving advances on your submitted business. You will still need E&O insurance and you will still need to invest in bought leads if you want your book of business to grow at maximum speed. Note that any time you work for someone other than yourself, though, you are influenced by that person's methods, reputation and reliability. If your manager has to resort to exaggeration, insults, defamation and libel in order to recruit you, don't expect that you will be treated any better in turn.

As I've stated before, there are conscientous, reputable, honest managers who work in this industry. Typically they are not the ones who have to scream from the mountaintops: they, like all who do good in this world, have no time or tolerance for arrogance or anger. They are quiet and choose their acquaintances not in cattle-call droves or email bombings, but carefully, on a person's individual strengths and merits.

I wish all who read this wisdom and strength in their endeavors.
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#38 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You have a lot to learn-

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

I believe you are doing a great dis-service to anyone that listens to your advice.

I just realized you have been away from Mega only a few months....you are just a puppy. You are still barely getting a hold of this 'real world' of insurance. That's probably why you didn't anwser my questions. Because you didn't anwser my questino, I am to assume you are selling a few apps a week, and barely scraping by with your overhead. No offense. I'm not defaming you, just taking a guess becuae I see it 100 times a week.

You forget that agents need help to learn how to really sell. Including you. I'm not talking about 1-2 apps a week. A monkey can do that in this industry. I'm talking 10-14 apps a week WHILE maintaining very low overhead, work less than 40 hours and NEVER prospect. That's what I like to call an "ALL STAR AGENT"

Tell me, are you selling 10 apps a week in less than 40 hours with low overhead while never prospecting? Not too many agents are able to say that they are worth $300/hour. Who's gonna teach you how to do that? You think someone at Blue Cross will - or Aetna - or Assurant ??? NEVER!!! maybe you can go to one of those seminars at the holiday inn they put on once a year.

If you wanted to become great a something (i.e. musical instruments, sports, business, etc) are you going to need to pay someone to help you? Of course you are. Did you know that the Self-Help industry is close to $4 billion/year. WHY? If everyone had your attitude, Brian Tracey, T Harv Eker, Bob Proctor, etc would be broke and the millions they influence would be as well....

WE WORK FOR YOU!!! You pay us an over-ride. So we MUST meet your highest expectations or you will find a better mentor to accomplish you desired goal.....

So, agents- do you give up a little pride by so that a real mentor you can make serious money the smart way, or do you broker yourself out to 10 carriers, get paid as earned, buy your own leads, with no competition rankings, no comradery- all alone and hope you survive????

Almost every agent that I have known that left us thinking that they would be more successful operating directly with the company has come back. We don't hold you captive to us and we don't force you into meetings. We can't. You are independent. We simply help you succeed. We have also built many excellent managers who are now mentors to others....and the cycle continues.

There, everyone - now you know your options. Jay went direct because he thinks he will lose money to a manager. I am with a solid organization that is pubically traded and the largest independent marketing org in the country. Non-captive.

Don't go direct. You'll barely break 100K/year. Just make sure you find a soild mentor/coach that will work hard for you! No-one is forcing you into anything.
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#39 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Why work for someone else....

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Agents,

What people do not tell you is you can get direct contracts with all the carriers, get much higher commission splits, get access to all the trips, etc etc etc.

Why work for someone else, make them rich when it is not hard to do it on your own... we are independent reps... correct?

Also, if you want to see a HUGE bump in income write more life... 110% not th 20-25% you see on health.

People work hard to recruit you because they make money off of you, I work for myself... it is great!
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Couple of Things -

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jay -
1) How long have you been away from Mega and how many agents have you recruited in your past? Are you a Broker independently contracted with carriers, or are you part of an agency with a manager?

2) Please email me the state law that indicates you are defaming if you tell the truth.

3) I will email you my list of Mega agents that will give you testimonials of thier incredible successes with my org.

3) You are pretty heavy about warning agents to do their homework, but you fail to tell us how many apps you are writing per week with your present independent gig.

4) Here is what my opportunity offers, and perhaps even you will want to talk to me: Agents- judge for yourself:

- Weekly 8-12 month advanced commissions on carriers that don't advance that
high anywhere else
- Number one marketing agency in the country for Golden Rule
- Lead programs on all carriers sold - quality leads
- Online selling 100%
- ZERO PROSPECTING SYSTEM
- Training geared to assisting all agents to reach 10 apps/week immediately
- 4 exotic trips/year on our carriers
- High commissions based (varies based on experience)
- Manager opporunity (based on apps, not politics)
- Extrememly low overhead
- huge commissions on critical care/anciallaires

I advise agents to not become independent brokers (like some on this board) because you can get so many more benefits and assistance, and increase your QUANTITY of SALES and QUALITY of LIFE by not fearing organizations like mine. I even offer agents a pre-release if they are unhappy with our performance.
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Negative posts are not the problem

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Agents/ex-agent who post are not Mega's problem. It's the insane amount of new articles and insurance department that are after Mega.

You think the ROR reports are Mega's concern over Maine's action against them? If you read the Maine report you'll see Mega has a lot of growing up to do before they can play with the big boys.

If Maine's not enough read up on the Mass. attorney general lawsuit and if that's not enough look at the Delaware $500,000 recent fine. Read the PBS article on them.

This company operates outside the regulations and gets caught all the time. Read up on the Washington State cease and desist a few years back and a pattern will start to emerge for you.

And even if all that can't open your eyes hit the NAIC.org site and run complaint searches on various carriers. Mega has the nation's highest complaint ratio among individual health carriers.
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#42 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Negative posts are not the problem

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Agents/ex-agent who post are not Mega's problem. It's the insane amount of new articles and insurance department that are after Mega.

You think the ROR reports are Mega's concern over Maine's action against them? If you read the Maine report you'll see Mega has a lot of growing up to do before they can play with the big boys.

If Maine's not enough read up on the Mass. attorney general lawsuit and if that's not enough look at the Delaware $500,000 recent fine. Read the PBS article on them.

This company operates outside the regulations and gets caught all the time. Read up on the Washington State cease and desist a few years back and a pattern will start to emerge for you.

And even if all that can't open your eyes hit the NAIC.org site and run complaint searches on various carriers. Mega has the nation's highest complaint ratio among individual health carriers.
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#43 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I Think You Might Be Confused...

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Blackstone, they own Mega, is not going after anyone for recruiting. If you would take time to read evreything you would see this. They are going after people for breaking insurance laws for defaming them, true or not. (The law does not care) This was simply put out there as a heads up to people posting on this site that send information directly to current mega agents. Blackstone is a multi-billion dollar private equity firm that will not care about the little guy.

As was stated in earlier posts, people will challenge them, and I think this is good, it needs to be done, I just don't think one person alone will have the resources available to do this.

Again, agent be careful and watch out for other agents who try to recruit you but do it via negative attacks and scare tactics.
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Healthmarkets isn't going "after" anyone

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Mega Life or Healthmarkets can't go after anyone for recruiting agents. Mega agent's are not employees - they're independent contractors (ie: self-employes) which means Mega cannot assert any control over them. Yes, they might attempt to scare someone recruiting agents but that's about all it is - a scare tactic.

That would be a great court case: "Yes your honor, they sent our independent contractors emails."

Aside from that, how can Mega agents be recruited? If UGA has the best deal (best products, commissions, overall package) then they wouldn't care at all. In fact, independent agents are sent mailers all the time from various agencies trying to get them to sell their products. I didn't realize that was illegal.

So I really don't see what Mega's concerned about. Happy agents are gonna stay, unhappy agent are gonna leave anyway. UGA wants unhappy agents to stay? Wow..that's gotta make for some great atmosphere in the meetings.

What UGA doesn't want their agents to know is:

1) Most health insurance sales are being made online and as time goes by almost all sales will be online

2) Agents can get 20% contracts with advances from day one

3) There's no need to drive all over your state, waste gas, get stood up, get told "I'd like to think about it" when most agents around the country and signing their clients up from home

4) Agents can show, compare and sell all major medical products in their state instead of putting on a dog and pony show in the home

If agents are worried about a support network when they leave just look into organizations like the Independent Health Insurance Agent Association (IHIAA.) They're set up to help and there are a lot of ways for agents to get out of Mega and become successful.
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#45 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Well said

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Thank you Chuck for your insight. I believe that is why Blackstone Group, (they own healthmarkets) is considering going after this person. There are many opportunities out there. Take some time and see what is a good fit for you. Try and avoid negative people, this week they bash mega, next week it will be someone else, the cycle will never end.

This is a great industry, you can do a lot of good for people.
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#46 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Well said

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Thank you Chuck for your insight. I believe that is why Blackstone Group, (they own healthmarkets) is considering going after this person. There are many opportunities out there. Take some time and see what is a good fit for you. Try and avoid negative people, this week they bash mega, next week it will be someone else, the cycle will never end.

This is a great industry, you can do a lot of good for people.
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#47 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Well said

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Thank you Chuck for your insight. I believe that is why Blackstone Group, (they own healthmarkets) is considering going after this person. There are many opportunities out there. Take some time and see what is a good fit for you. Try and avoid negative people, this week they bash mega, next week it will be someone else, the cycle will never end.

This is a great industry, you can do a lot of good for people.
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#48 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I Replied to that Email - and now I'm out

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

Wow, there are a lot of nervous, skeptical agents out there huh? Mega kinda makes you that way I guess. I looked at the email as an invite to sell better rated carriers, because I have been feeling like Mega is going downhill. I think the email was intended to get agents to look, because I deleted all the emails that looked normal and invited a change. My managers told me to. I think there are many agents that need to be pushed into change, because it's easy to look the other way for so long, that I grows too late in the hour to think its even possible.

I conversed back and forth with the agent with many questions, and he gave me straight answers and actually impressed me with his knowledge. We eventully spoke at length, and I am now extremely excited about this new opportunity to sell on my own. He said the reason he is careful with giving out his name is because Mega will take any agent that tries to recruit theirs, and try and taint them in the eyes of the agents so they don't ever look again. He said that that the confidentiality goes both ways and that I wouldn't want him telling other Mega agents that I am looking to leave...which makes sense.

All I have to say is THANK YOU! Who cares how I was pulled out, I am now FREE!!

I think the majority of the agents that are out, probably forget to thank the guy who emailed them that invite to change their life......because had they not received it, they would probably still be there. I know I would be.
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#49 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Recruiters of MEGA Agents often just as pathetic and unethical as MEGA itself

AUTHOR: Chuck - (U.S.A.)

I know a lot of MEGA agents browse this site. They could be true believers drinking the Kool-Aid, and they could be desperately looking for the exit door. Both of these groups are often plagued by recruiters because it doesn't take much of a crowbar to pry many licensed agents out of MEGA. Most of the newbies have been on the fence since Day 1.

I'm no defender of MEGA by any stretch, but there is a particular health agent recruiter out there who is trying to deceive and cheat MEGA agents in order to recruit them. This week, a highly deceptive and fraudulent email has been tearing through the country alleging that HealthMarkets (MEGA's parent company) has "new, lower ratings" by A.M. Best. A link is provided in this email that leads one to believe MEGA's rating has been lowered from A- (Excellent) to BBB- (Good) - a precipitous drop by any measurement.

What the author of the email utterly fails to divulge is that the A.M. Best rating he cites is specifically for HealthMarkets' holding company, which has a separate listing. In fact, the issuer credit rating of BBB- for HealthMarkets' holding company has been BBB- since at least May 25, 2007. One is led to believe that HealthMarkets itself has suddenly been "lowered" to BBB-, but in fact HealthMarkets, MEGA and all other associated companies have retained their A.M. Best "A-" rating, which has also been in force at least since May 25, 2007.

There are plenty of opportunities out there in the insurance world for conscientious, hardworking producers. No reputable manager or agency would ever need to stoop to such tactics to recruit new agents for their sales force. MEGA agents, beware of anyone who has to resort to false allegations to bring you out of your situation. Although you are likely in desperate straits, resist the impulse to cling to the first thing you see floating. It may very well be a shark.
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The grass is GREENER on the other side of the fence

AUTHOR: Glad I Am Gone - (U.S.A.)

I left Mega last year for a number of reason. But the biggest reason is that I felt un-ethical about what I was selling.

I am now an independant agent and have ZERO issues with the companies I am selling. (Humana, Aetna, Blue Cross).

Yes I am not getting big advance checks, BUT I also don't owe any company anything if a policy falls off to soon!

I don't have to worry about taken rates, etc. Or competing against agents who have deep pockets for marketing to win contests and bonuses. I either hit the number of policies needed or I don't. No questions.

Being able to talk to underwriting BEFORE selling a policy to someone has helped me keep more business on the books.

I don't have to waste gas driving somewhere to get a "no" or "I'll think about it". I do get those answers, but since the companies I rep all want the applications done on-line, the most I am spending is on my phone and internet bill. Hell of a lot cheaper then gas now a days.

Mega teaches people here in Texas that you are required by law to see the customer in person and every insurance plan must have an association with it.

If it was the law, why are all the major players (and I mean, real insurance companies) wanting everything done on-line? And for associations? BS. Some plans have them, some don't. BUT it is NOT a state law.

IF you like living in a deficit to a company that is heading downhill fast, God bless you.

By the way, why did Troy McQuage step down? Was UGA falling that bad?
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#51 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Yes I was... for good reason...

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

This is nothing personal, I just think agents need to look into everything that is out there. I also think if you plan to continue to do business in the state of Illinois you should get a copy of the state insurance code and you will see that my reading of the law is correct. Also, it is not MEGA who is looking into you.. Blackstone is another animal. I am glad to hear you will fight them, I think someone needs to.

One other point, you send emails with information and a number, you post about the great opportunity you company has, yet you never give the name of the company or where we can get more information prior to contacting you.

Is there anything you are hiding? Why do I have to send you my information first to get information on your company? Mega took this approach and we know how well that worked out for some people.

Agents, just do your homework...
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OK - I'm going to assume you are referring to me......

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

So, how does saying "true" things about a company constitute being unethical? Please explain that one..... If I say that Mega has the highest complaint ratio in the industry, am I being unethical? If I discuss their ratings, or their coverage limitations, or their recent lawsuits, am I unethical?

Blackstone cannot sue someone for recruiting agents whose names and emails are publicaly displayed invited people to email them. They have tried, they have nothing to go on. All agents we email are found on National databases, just like all the rest of the agents we talk to, outside of Mega. But it does speak of Mega when they try and sue you because you attempt to recruit them......
If they do try and sue us again, we are ready. Mega loves to tie agents up in courts. They don't care if they lose, they just want to tie some recruiter up with attorney's fees and court cost for a year with some ridiculous suit that makes no sense and has no ground. That's their little trick.

I know I'm being a little defensive here, but many, many agent's lives have changed from the assistance I and my managers have given them. I have spent countless hours helping agents that I have never made one dime off. They thank me almost everyday for "showing them the light"

I invite all to read my past post and ask yourself how unethical I am. Judge for yourself. Don't just take Jay's word for it. I'm not afraid to say what needs to be said and expose Mega for who they really are - ideas of attorneys and suits don't scare me like they do him. I don't hide what I know under sealed lips out of fear.


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#53 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Most of The Things Here You Read Are True... But Stop And Think

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

To all current, past, and perspective Mega agents: Sadly most of what you read here is true. I too was a Mega agent and left because there were things going on I did not agree with and wanted to do the right thing for my clients.

Are there better opportunities elsewhere? Yes. Is the stock program real depends how you look at it. (Conversation for another day) Please, however, be weary of what some people are posting, specifically, what they are saying. We all took classes to get licensed, and we all know bad mouthing another insurance company, true or not, is not legal or ethical.

So why would you want to go work for someone who is a repeat offender of this on this site?

This same person, who has many of the preceding posts, has even gone so far as to directly email current Mega agents with the same things he posts here. He might already know this, and if not you are being forewarned, the powers that be at Blackstone, (they own Healthmarkets) protect their investments closely and legal action is in the works.

Agents, take time to look and see what else is out there, there are a lot of opportunities, ask questions, do research, and don't trust unethical people.
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MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

WOW, MAYBE WE AREN'T THAT STUPID AND DISGRUNTLED AFTER ALL! MAYBE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG IS TRUE?

ANYONE WHO DOES AN OUNCE OF RESEARCH (BELOW) ON THIS COMPANY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MEGA/HEALTH MARKETS IS JUST PLAIN CACA CRAPPY! HANDS DOWN, THEY CAN'T COMPETE!

AGENTS - WAKE UP! STOP KILLING YOUR PRESENT IN HIGH HOPES TO SECURE YOUR FUTURE!! TIMES HAVE CHANGED THERE AND YOU CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM THE COMPANY IN 10 YEARS WITH A MILLION COOL CASH! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN TO THE STANDARD AGENT WRITING $400k-/AV/YEAR. REGIONAL MANAGER, MAYBE.
YOU ARE SO MUCH BETTER OFF SELLING GOOD PRODUCTS TO DESERVING PEOPLE AND MAKING $100-300k YR WHILE SLEEPING WELL AT NIGHT. I DO IT, MOST OF MY X-MEGA AGENTS DO IT TOO. SO CAN YOU!!!! DON'T BE SCARED.


AM Best Rating:
http://www3.ambest.com/ratings/FullProfile.asp?Bl=0&AMBNum=58107&AltSrc=1&AltNum=&URATINGID=1786931&Ext_User=&Ext_Misc=


AM Best long term outlook - Negative:
http://www3.ambest.com/news/NewsSearch.aspx?Text=HealthMarkets&both=1

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MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

WOW, MAYBE WE AREN'T THAT STUPID AND DISGRUNTLED AFTER ALL! MAYBE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG IS TRUE?

ANYONE WHO DOES AN OUNCE OF RESEARCH (BELOW) ON THIS COMPANY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MEGA/HEALTH MARKETS IS JUST PLAIN CACA CRAPPY! HANDS DOWN, THEY CAN'T COMPETE!

AGENTS - WAKE UP! STOP KILLING YOUR PRESENT IN HIGH HOPES TO SECURE YOUR FUTURE!! TIMES HAVE CHANGED THERE AND YOU CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM THE COMPANY IN 10 YEARS WITH A MILLION COOL CASH! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN TO THE STANDARD AGENT WRITING $400k-/AV/YEAR. REGIONAL MANAGER, MAYBE.
YOU ARE SO MUCH BETTER OFF SELLING GOOD PRODUCTS TO DESERVING PEOPLE AND MAKING $100-300k YR WHILE SLEEPING WELL AT NIGHT. I DO IT, MOST OF MY X-MEGA AGENTS DO IT TOO. SO CAN YOU!!!! DON'T BE SCARED.


AM Best Rating:
http://www3.ambest.com/ratings/FullProfile.asp?Bl=0&AMBNum=58107&AltSrc=1&AltNum=&URATINGID=1786931&Ext_User=&Ext_Misc=


AM Best long term outlook - Negative:
http://www3.ambest.com/news/NewsSearch.aspx?Text=HealthMarkets&both=1

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MEGA RATINGS - AM'S BEST AND S&P......LOWERED!!

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

WOW, MAYBE WE AREN'T THAT STUPID AND DISGRUNTLED AFTER ALL! MAYBE WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG IS TRUE?

ANYONE WHO DOES AN OUNCE OF RESEARCH (BELOW) ON THIS COMPANY WILL UNDERSTAND THAT MEGA/HEALTH MARKETS IS JUST PLAIN CACA CRAPPY! HANDS DOWN, THEY CAN'T COMPETE!

AGENTS - WAKE UP! STOP KILLING YOUR PRESENT IN HIGH HOPES TO SECURE YOUR FUTURE!! TIMES HAVE CHANGED THERE AND YOU CAN'T WALK AWAY FROM THE COMPANY IN 10 YEARS WITH A MILLION COOL CASH! NEVER GONNA HAPPEN TO THE STANDARD AGENT WRITING $400k-/AV/YEAR. REGIONAL MANAGER, MAYBE.
YOU ARE SO MUCH BETTER OFF SELLING GOOD PRODUCTS TO DESERVING PEOPLE AND MAKING $100-300k YR WHILE SLEEPING WELL AT NIGHT. I DO IT, MOST OF MY X-MEGA AGENTS DO IT TOO. SO CAN YOU!!!! DON'T BE SCARED.


AM Best Rating:
http://www3.ambest.com/ratings/FullProfile.asp?Bl=0&AMBNum=58107&AltSrc=1&AltNum=&URATINGID=1786931&Ext_User=&Ext_Misc=


AM Best long term outlook - Negative:
http://www3.ambest.com/news/NewsSearch.aspx?Text=HealthMarkets&both=1

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#57 UPDATE Employee

Wait and You will See all the FUSS

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

I am glad you are happy with your plan. I am glad you really understood what you bought. About 99% have No IDEA what they actually bought. If you keep going to those dr. visits - you will run out of coverage - hope you do not have to see a specialist several times.

You might of used your card and paid almost nothing upfront, but just wait and soon you will see what all the Fuss is all about. You should start receiving in the mail many letters from MEGA saying that they are reviewing your claims- this will last for months. You will then call the company and get different answers from different people, especially if you have to keep calling back. Give it time, keep using your card, and then post another note for all to see where you are 15 months from now.

Also, keep in close contact with your agent so you can vent all your future frustration on MEGA to him. Most people who buy the plan never stay in touch with their agent. Your agent most likely will not be around next year.
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#58 Consumer Comment

what is all the fuss

AUTHOR: At A Loss - (U.S.A.)

I have a mega plan. I have not had to pay a dime out of my pocket for our doctors visits yet, and have a family of 5. I have had a copay after my deductible on my medications, but I knew that was the way it would be. When I had another plan before this, I was so worried about taking the kids to the doctors, that I made myself sick with the stress. My son broke his ankle, and I got cash from NASE that paid for my out-of pocket under the insurance. It really helped alot since I couldn't work for three days, taking care of him. I thought I broke my toe, and only paid a $50 copay even though the ER person ordered all kinds of x-rays for my foot and ankle.

I did have a copay on my annual testing, but I have a friend that had a Blue Cross Plan that only covered about 20% of testing for his son once everything was said and done.

As long as I knew what I was buying, I'm ok with it since another friend of mine is paying over $1,000 per month for him and his wife, and they hardly ever get sick! They are on a fixed income and it is so sad to see them go through that. I can't imagine what I would pay for that BC plan they have.
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#59 UPDATE Employee

MEGA Agents - do a historical study on "CAPTIVITY"

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

I wrote back in Feb. of 2008 (two months ago). I was in 40K debt from working with MEGA. Now I am about 22K debt with the company. A big thing that helps lower that debt is if you call the company -MEGA Admin. and stop contributing to the DEF stock with renewals. They reversed my contributions going all the way back to Jan. I'm almost out and hoping not to go to court for the rest.

If you are thinking about joining MEGA please consider doing a word study on the "concept" of what it means to be in "captivity". Do a historical study of people who have been in captivity. For those of you who are Bible believers, do a Bible Study on captivity - then make up your mind if you want to work for NASE.

Being a "captive" agent has a connontation of being a slave. People who have been with Mega longer than 5 years convert that to mean "Golden Handcuffs" yet the concept is still there - SLAVE.

You become a slave to the company. Look at me and all the posted comments above. You get financially stuck with their dream for your life and once you become conscience of what you are selling - if you have been there for anytime over 5 years, you have to harden your heart and close your mind off to the reality of what you are selling.
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#60 Consumer Comment

Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

AUTHOR: P - (U.S.A.)

This article was posted on a local news station where I live. This was also on the Noon report....


Thousands of Mainers Due for Insurance Refund
AUGUSTA (NEWS CENTER) -- An insurance company that overcharged Maine policy holders for years has been ordered to pay a $1 million fine to the state, and refund its policy holders $4.6 million, plus interest.




Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman says the Texas-based company, Mega Life, ignored state findings that its rates were excessive.

She says Mega Life continued to overcharge policy holders for four years, from 2003 to 2007.

It's one of the largest fines and restitution agreements ever in Maine. State officials said the settlement involves approximately 9,830 policies.

Mega Life has 30 days to notify the Bureau of Insurance of how it will allocate the restitution to specific policyholders.

Consumers can reach the Bureau of Insurance by calling 1-800-300-5000 in state; or by writing to: Bureau of Insurance, 34 State House Station, Augusta ME 04333.

You can also go to their website. Just click on the related link.
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#61 Consumer Comment

Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

AUTHOR: P - (U.S.A.)

This article was posted on a local news station where I live. This was also on the Noon report....


Thousands of Mainers Due for Insurance Refund
AUGUSTA (NEWS CENTER) -- An insurance company that overcharged Maine policy holders for years has been ordered to pay a $1 million fine to the state, and refund its policy holders $4.6 million, plus interest.




Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman says the Texas-based company, Mega Life, ignored state findings that its rates were excessive.

She says Mega Life continued to overcharge policy holders for four years, from 2003 to 2007.

It's one of the largest fines and restitution agreements ever in Maine. State officials said the settlement involves approximately 9,830 policies.

Mega Life has 30 days to notify the Bureau of Insurance of how it will allocate the restitution to specific policyholders.

Consumers can reach the Bureau of Insurance by calling 1-800-300-5000 in state; or by writing to: Bureau of Insurance, 34 State House Station, Augusta ME 04333.

You can also go to their website. Just click on the related link.
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#62 Consumer Comment

Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

AUTHOR: P - (U.S.A.)

This article was posted on a local news station where I live. This was also on the Noon report....


Thousands of Mainers Due for Insurance Refund
AUGUSTA (NEWS CENTER) -- An insurance company that overcharged Maine policy holders for years has been ordered to pay a $1 million fine to the state, and refund its policy holders $4.6 million, plus interest.




Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman says the Texas-based company, Mega Life, ignored state findings that its rates were excessive.

She says Mega Life continued to overcharge policy holders for four years, from 2003 to 2007.

It's one of the largest fines and restitution agreements ever in Maine. State officials said the settlement involves approximately 9,830 policies.

Mega Life has 30 days to notify the Bureau of Insurance of how it will allocate the restitution to specific policyholders.

Consumers can reach the Bureau of Insurance by calling 1-800-300-5000 in state; or by writing to: Bureau of Insurance, 34 State House Station, Augusta ME 04333.

You can also go to their website. Just click on the related link.
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#63 Consumer Comment

Mega Life slapped with a HUGE fine....

AUTHOR: P - (U.S.A.)

This article was posted on a local news station where I live. This was also on the Noon report....


Thousands of Mainers Due for Insurance Refund
AUGUSTA (NEWS CENTER) -- An insurance company that overcharged Maine policy holders for years has been ordered to pay a $1 million fine to the state, and refund its policy holders $4.6 million, plus interest.




Maine Insurance Superintendent Mila Kofman says the Texas-based company, Mega Life, ignored state findings that its rates were excessive.

She says Mega Life continued to overcharge policy holders for four years, from 2003 to 2007.

It's one of the largest fines and restitution agreements ever in Maine. State officials said the settlement involves approximately 9,830 policies.

Mega Life has 30 days to notify the Bureau of Insurance of how it will allocate the restitution to specific policyholders.

Consumers can reach the Bureau of Insurance by calling 1-800-300-5000 in state; or by writing to: Bureau of Insurance, 34 State House Station, Augusta ME 04333.

You can also go to their website. Just click on the related link.
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#64 Consumer Comment

Wow..it is all true isn't it?

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

I have to say that what I have read on here...and as you know is quite a bit, is all pretty much word for word true. Last friday I had an agent from NASE/MEGA come to the house to try and CON me into a policy. After reading this report, and TOO many others like it, there were things she would say that were exactly what has been written on here.

Amazing the amount of time she spent on explaining NASE, and lack of time she talked about the actual insurance. Then when I would pose a question to her about the insurance, off she went about MEGA winning all these sales awards, and my favorite. MEGA is the #1 rated Insurance company in the world. She topped that off with some whipped cream, saying that both Presidents Bush and Clinton stated in their inauguration speeches that if ALL health insurance companies operated like MEGA, then we wouldn't be in a health care crisis. Note to self, were we in a health care crisis during Clintons speech? The other one that got me was the..."we are the only permanent insurance in the world".

Well anyways, she had no reasonable answers to the questions I was throwing at her, even though I knew more about her policy then she did. It also made me laugh that the poor lady had to pitch the presentation off of a typed out sheet. I then asked her how long she had been with the company, and she said for 3 or 4 months. Funny when I looked her up on the insurance commisioners page she had only been appointed for 10 days. They certainly throw them to the sharks early at MEGA don't they?

The whole time she was there I had a file in front of me with over 100 negative reports on NASE/MEGA from the last five years. It was so sad of a presentation, that I didn't even have to open up the file and put it to her. I just feel bad for the unsuspecting person that does actually get fooled by them. For her sake too, as she was a very nice lady, I hope she figures out the junk that they have her saying to people is just that...JUNK.
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#65 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Just realize who's giving you the information

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

What Mega agents need to understand is all of their information is coming from obviously biased sources. Unless their managers makes overrides the entire operation crashes and burns so it's not like any Mega manager is gonna say "Oh Yeah, all these other carriers are fantastic and pay more."

For any Mega agent reading this just realize some facts:

*Almost all carriers pay 20% commission to start, then you go to 25% with some carriers.

*Independent agents sell online. This means no gas, no getting stood up and you greatly expand your territory.

*Anytime you're presenting one company you turn into a salesperson. When you present the products of many companies you're in the role of an adviser and don't have to hard-close.

*If you're a Mega agent and not doing well don't let anyone tell you "maybe this isn't for you." It's for you. The only thing not for you is Mega/UGA.

So it's up to you. You either drive around your state all day on appointments or do side-by-side plan comparisons with your clients online. If you're happy with Mega then fine - stay.

But if anyone's looking for help there's an association I found set up to help. The Independent health insurance agent association can help anyone. Go to ihiaa dot com.
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#66 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Just realize who's giving you the information

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

What Mega agents need to understand is all of their information is coming from obviously biased sources. Unless their managers makes overrides the entire operation crashes and burns so it's not like any Mega manager is gonna say "Oh Yeah, all these other carriers are fantastic and pay more."

For any Mega agent reading this just realize some facts:

*Almost all carriers pay 20% commission to start, then you go to 25% with some carriers.

*Independent agents sell online. This means no gas, no getting stood up and you greatly expand your territory.

*Anytime you're presenting one company you turn into a salesperson. When you present the products of many companies you're in the role of an adviser and don't have to hard-close.

*If you're a Mega agent and not doing well don't let anyone tell you "maybe this isn't for you." It's for you. The only thing not for you is Mega/UGA.

So it's up to you. You either drive around your state all day on appointments or do side-by-side plan comparisons with your clients online. If you're happy with Mega then fine - stay.

But if anyone's looking for help there's an association I found set up to help. The Independent health insurance agent association can help anyone. Go to ihiaa dot com.
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#67 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Just realize who's giving you the information

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

What Mega agents need to understand is all of their information is coming from obviously biased sources. Unless their managers makes overrides the entire operation crashes and burns so it's not like any Mega manager is gonna say "Oh Yeah, all these other carriers are fantastic and pay more."

For any Mega agent reading this just realize some facts:

*Almost all carriers pay 20% commission to start, then you go to 25% with some carriers.

*Independent agents sell online. This means no gas, no getting stood up and you greatly expand your territory.

*Anytime you're presenting one company you turn into a salesperson. When you present the products of many companies you're in the role of an adviser and don't have to hard-close.

*If you're a Mega agent and not doing well don't let anyone tell you "maybe this isn't for you." It's for you. The only thing not for you is Mega/UGA.

So it's up to you. You either drive around your state all day on appointments or do side-by-side plan comparisons with your clients online. If you're happy with Mega then fine - stay.

But if anyone's looking for help there's an association I found set up to help. The Independent health insurance agent association can help anyone. Go to ihiaa dot com.
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#68 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Just realize who's giving you the information

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

What Mega agents need to understand is all of their information is coming from obviously biased sources. Unless their managers makes overrides the entire operation crashes and burns so it's not like any Mega manager is gonna say "Oh Yeah, all these other carriers are fantastic and pay more."

For any Mega agent reading this just realize some facts:

*Almost all carriers pay 20% commission to start, then you go to 25% with some carriers.

*Independent agents sell online. This means no gas, no getting stood up and you greatly expand your territory.

*Anytime you're presenting one company you turn into a salesperson. When you present the products of many companies you're in the role of an adviser and don't have to hard-close.

*If you're a Mega agent and not doing well don't let anyone tell you "maybe this isn't for you." It's for you. The only thing not for you is Mega/UGA.

So it's up to you. You either drive around your state all day on appointments or do side-by-side plan comparisons with your clients online. If you're happy with Mega then fine - stay.

But if anyone's looking for help there's an association I found set up to help. The Independent health insurance agent association can help anyone. Go to ihiaa dot com.
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#69 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Regarding the Post Above from "Mmmmmgood in NC" -

Everyone, please take notice of the 4th paragraph down..... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! THAT'S THE BULL CRAP THAT IS DRILLED INTO THEIR HEADS ALL DAY LONG BY THEIR MANAGERS!!! !

Hey genius, why are you on the Rip Off Report if you had a wonderful experience with Mega and your Agent??? You just proved my point about you guys being a bunch of liars. No client that just purchased a Mega Policy would EVER write a post like that...

BTW, you can't buy up on your RX plan....in fact, your drugs are caps/year along with just about everything else.

I noticed how you wrote that you compared a fully loaded Mega plan against a 'non-association plan', and your mega price and plan was better.....so who did you....I mean, your agent, compare that one to??? Aflac?? There are only a few Non-Association Individual plans on the market, so which one was it that you compared against?

I also noticed how you mention nothing of your price per month, or what your deductible and co-ins, and OOP is??? Yet, how many times did you say "association?"

Mega agents know very, very little about the company and programs they sell.

Don't worry, you're probably brand new...and your managers are forcing this down your throat, we'll forgive you... Hopefully your clients will too when they realize the mess you put them into after it's too late.

Like the agent above, you will inevitably laugh at yourself for attempting to make such a ridiculous post.
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#70 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Regarding the Post Above from "Mmmmmgood in NC" -

Everyone, please take notice of the 4th paragraph down..... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! THAT'S THE BULL CRAP THAT IS DRILLED INTO THEIR HEADS ALL DAY LONG BY THEIR MANAGERS!!! !

Hey genius, why are you on the Rip Off Report if you had a wonderful experience with Mega and your Agent??? You just proved my point about you guys being a bunch of liars. No client that just purchased a Mega Policy would EVER write a post like that...

BTW, you can't buy up on your RX plan....in fact, your drugs are caps/year along with just about everything else.

I noticed how you wrote that you compared a fully loaded Mega plan against a 'non-association plan', and your mega price and plan was better.....so who did you....I mean, your agent, compare that one to??? Aflac?? There are only a few Non-Association Individual plans on the market, so which one was it that you compared against?

I also noticed how you mention nothing of your price per month, or what your deductible and co-ins, and OOP is??? Yet, how many times did you say "association?"

Mega agents know very, very little about the company and programs they sell.

Don't worry, you're probably brand new...and your managers are forcing this down your throat, we'll forgive you... Hopefully your clients will too when they realize the mess you put them into after it's too late.

Like the agent above, you will inevitably laugh at yourself for attempting to make such a ridiculous post.
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Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Regarding the Post Above from "Mmmmmgood in NC" -

Everyone, please take notice of the 4th paragraph down..... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! THAT'S THE BULL CRAP THAT IS DRILLED INTO THEIR HEADS ALL DAY LONG BY THEIR MANAGERS!!! !

Hey genius, why are you on the Rip Off Report if you had a wonderful experience with Mega and your Agent??? You just proved my point about you guys being a bunch of liars. No client that just purchased a Mega Policy would EVER write a post like that...

BTW, you can't buy up on your RX plan....in fact, your drugs are caps/year along with just about everything else.

I noticed how you wrote that you compared a fully loaded Mega plan against a 'non-association plan', and your mega price and plan was better.....so who did you....I mean, your agent, compare that one to??? Aflac?? There are only a few Non-Association Individual plans on the market, so which one was it that you compared against?

I also noticed how you mention nothing of your price per month, or what your deductible and co-ins, and OOP is??? Yet, how many times did you say "association?"

Mega agents know very, very little about the company and programs they sell.

Don't worry, you're probably brand new...and your managers are forcing this down your throat, we'll forgive you... Hopefully your clients will too when they realize the mess you put them into after it's too late.

Like the agent above, you will inevitably laugh at yourself for attempting to make such a ridiculous post.
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#72 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thanx for the good laugh Mr. Agent in NC....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Regarding the Post Above from "Mmmmmgood in NC" -

Everyone, please take notice of the 4th paragraph down..... THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!! THAT'S THE BULL CRAP THAT IS DRILLED INTO THEIR HEADS ALL DAY LONG BY THEIR MANAGERS!!! !

Hey genius, why are you on the Rip Off Report if you had a wonderful experience with Mega and your Agent??? You just proved my point about you guys being a bunch of liars. No client that just purchased a Mega Policy would EVER write a post like that...

BTW, you can't buy up on your RX plan....in fact, your drugs are caps/year along with just about everything else.

I noticed how you wrote that you compared a fully loaded Mega plan against a 'non-association plan', and your mega price and plan was better.....so who did you....I mean, your agent, compare that one to??? Aflac?? There are only a few Non-Association Individual plans on the market, so which one was it that you compared against?

I also noticed how you mention nothing of your price per month, or what your deductible and co-ins, and OOP is??? Yet, how many times did you say "association?"

Mega agents know very, very little about the company and programs they sell.

Don't worry, you're probably brand new...and your managers are forcing this down your throat, we'll forgive you... Hopefully your clients will too when they realize the mess you put them into after it's too late.

Like the agent above, you will inevitably laugh at yourself for attempting to make such a ridiculous post.
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#73 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Boy, I am eating my own words!

AUTHOR: Eating My Own Words - (U.S.A.)

I have to confess, I posted on here within the last two years when I WAS a District Manager for Mega defending the company. At that time, I thought Mega was the know all end all and "thought" I knew the truth about the company. It may have taken me 5 years to open my eyes, but I am sure glad I did.

If there is anyone out there who is having difficulties with leaving because of debt or any other reason, dont worry we have all been through it. I can sit here and tell you the reasons why I finally left, but most of it has all been said. All you need to know is go out and do your research and find out about other agencies and insurance companies in your area. Everyone is going to have a manager who makes money off you, but at least you are selling a good product with a trusted insurance company, and you are completely free to run your own business. Once you are free from call ins, trainings, and meetings, you will be a much happier person- not to mention you should be making the full 20%+ commission on the products you sell and not around 10% minus taken rate that Mega gives you.

Final thought: If you are even questioning if you should be a rep for Mega or not, follow your gut and start looking around. It never hurts to be the educated one making the decision instead of "having your blinders on" and just ASSuming your managers know what they are talking about.
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#74 Consumer Suggestion

Mega life plan works great for me

AUTHOR: Mmmmmmgood - (U.S.A.)

It seems to me that every report that i read on here has one thing in common. All of the people complaining are either customers who didn't understand what they bought, or agents who were terminated (most likely due to complaints)

Mega has a plan for any type of budget so obviously if you buy a dirt cheap plan the coverage is not going to be what you expect. I have been with Mega for a year now and like it just fine. The association benefits have actually helped save me money and I pay nothing when I go to the doctor.

I elected not to get an ER benefit so I know that If I go to the ER I am going to have to pay towards my deductible. In turn, my rate was lower so that was ok with me. Generic drugs are a $15 copay and if I needed a better drug plan for name brand drugs I have that option also. I did not want it so my rate was lower. I looked at the fully loaded Mega plan that my agent brought and It was still about the same price as an non-association company's best policy but would have gave me a ton of more coverage. It had life insurance and disability on it also.

I am from Charlotte NC and my agent was very thorough with me and I understand exactly how the plan works. The CareOne plan that I am on is very flexible and my agent explained every option that I had so that I could pick what I needed. My rates are lower than the competition since I am in an association and they will not go up if I were to make a serious claim like most other non-association type companies.

People you need to understand what you are buying and make sure you have an agent that you like and one that knows what he/she is talking about. The plans are not set in stone type plans. My agent did a great job of explaining to me how each plan option works and I have been happy with the coverage I got for the money.

I am happy with the choice that I made so quit complaining about the company because you did not understand what you bought. It was your fault. If the agent lied to you then report him to the dept of insurance. He also left the brochure with me and I read it, theres a suggestion.
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#75 UPDATE EX-employee responds

BUYERS BEWARE....5 FACTS YOU MUST READ BEFORE PURCHASING MEGA INSURANCE

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

This will take about 7-10 minutes to read. I thought Mega agents were smarter than to keep saying these things in the field, but apparently it is still commonly occuring all over the country. I was taught to say these things over 4 years ago: These are facts you MUST KNOW!!!


FACT # 1: Mega Life & Health and its affiliated companies are not "group" insurance plans. Even though a Mega agent may speak heavily about this, it is important to understand that THIS IS AN INDIVIDUAL, UNDERWRITTEN HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY, just like all other companies you can purchase from if you are getting insurance just for you or your family. Simply because they are placing you in an association (NASE or AFS), does not mean that you are now part of a group plan. It means you are part of an association plan, and there is a difference.

Selling on this concept gives the buyer the impression that they are going to be part of a similar group plan like GM, Sony, or Home Depot insurance. NO!! You are not part of a group like that. You are simply being enrolled into an association, not a true group plan. You do not want a true group when you are buying on your own..... Almost all individual insurance companies use the association concept for 'pooling' purposes, nonetheless, they are still individual, underwritten health plans not intended for serving more than one family on the same plan. True group plans like GM do not have underwriting to deny you if you have diabetes, you must be an employee, and you cannot hand pick the type of coverage you want. If you get fired or quit, you lose your coverage.

United Health Care (underwritten by Golden Rule) serves more than 26 million customers. They use and association call F.A.C.T (Federation of American Consumers and Travelers). Assurant Health, World Insurance and several others also use associations to enroll individuals and single families for personal insurance plans.

If an agent is selling you on this, ask him or her these questions ...

1) "If Mega is a group plan, then I can't be denied coverage based on health, right?"

2) "So, if Mega is a group, then what is Humana, Golden Rule, Assurant, Unicare, Blue Cross and Aetna?" ...(if the agents answers "they are individual plans, and it's you against the insurance company" - then ask, "what makes them an Individual plan?" ...if the agent answers "they don't have a large group like the NASE to be part of......well, now you know that the agent is either aware, but choosing to lie to you, or they are unaware. So make your choice- do you place your hard earned money into the hands of an agent that is either a liar, or misinformed about the marketplace?

3) "How much is your association?" - F.A.C.T with Golden Rule is $3/month. That's all I need to say. Remember, you need Health Insurance! Most Mega agents will talk about their silly, expensive association 70% of the time, and the actual health plan/cost 10% of the time. (the other 20% is trying to get you to like them and build trust in them personally with a whole bunch of bull crap)

One other thing, they have been touting heavily that their sales force won some stupid Stevie award....which basically means squat to you. By the end of reading this post, you will realize that they are winning awards by manipulating and lying to their customers.
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FACT # 2:

If you tell a Mega agent that you are looking at Golden Rule and trying to compare, you will typically hear something like this:

"Well, Mr./Mrs. Client - that plan is great until you get sick and you really need it"

Be sure to ask the agent to elaborate on that statement. They will most likely proceed to try and explain to you that other companies outside of Mega will single you out for rate increases or cancel you after you place a big, new claim. THIS IS FALSE!! As a matter of fact, this is against state regulations for agents to say this, or imply it and they could lose their license if you, and others, report them to your state OFIS office. HIPPA Federal Law (also known as the Kennedy-Kassebaum Act of 1996) prohibits any insurance carrier from cancelling you due to placing new claims. All insurance companies, including Mega, have the right to investigate claims. If you omitted information on your application, then they can rescind your policy and deny all claims. But if you have a NEW CLAIM, then you cannot be denied coverage. It is a ridiculous assumption that an insurance company will single you out for the very thing you are paying monthly for. That's like purchasing life insurance for 10 years, dying and the insurance company denying your beneficiary the face amount because of a claim...you died!

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FACT # 3 - You will get RATE INCREASES with all health insurance companies. MEGA LIFE has rate increases after the first year too. Mega agents will try and sell you on the idea that you will get big rate increases after your first year with any other company but theirs (go figure). That's a lie. No one can predict exactly what will happen, and Mega has a history of having similar rate increases to their competition. # 4 below will help you understand that it is much smarter to take a risk with a company that may give you a 10% rate increase, then to take a risk with Mega-having them cover you with their style of coverage for a potential 5% rate increase.

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FACT # 4 - Mega Coverage & Price Cannot Compete against the rest of the market.

Mega agents will talk the least about their coverage and most agents will not leave their lengthily brochure and policy info behind with you, even when you commit to buying. Their outline of coverage is confusing. HEALTH INSURANCE IS NOT CONFUSING! Most other plans that you can buy are simple and easy to understand. I can personally break it ALL down for you on ONE PAGE. Mega agents will omit the dirty secrets about their plans, like yearly caps on RX and 'per occurrence' deductibles, along with the lifetime personal incident caps of $1 million, organ transplant caps, chemo regulations and much more. Their first dollar benefits are complicated and you have to be on the plan for lengthy periods to get a benefit from them.

Top Major Medical Plans that we sell are One Deductible for the Calendar Year, not per occurrence. No caps on RX and no special Chemotherapy regulations. First dollar co-pay benefits are immediate for doc visits, well checks, immunizations, and RX.

Last- the price for a plan that could leave your family with multiple incidents out of pocket in excess of $25K.. is much more expensive than the plans we sell.
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FACT # 5 - Mega has a very bad reputation. They are constantly being sued and find themselves under multi-state investigations for the fraudulent agent practices I have noted above. Their complaint ratio as a whole, is literally off the charts (seriously, there is a chart on NAIC.org website and Mega's complaint ratio goes off of it). Scroll up to my post above Are we defaming Mega, or Exposing them? if you would like some references.
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REVIEW: Mega agents are Captive. This means they will be kicked out of Mega if they get appointed to sell a different company. If they tell you that they represent another company, like Blue Cross, they are lying to your face.

Even though many agents are aware that their plans are inferior to the market in price and coverage, they chose to stay and put their license at risk everyday by telling you many of the lies above. Why? Because they believe that they will become millionaires one day in their stock sharing program. Because they aspire to become a manager one day. Because they feel a greater obligation to their marketing company, UGA, than to their clients that they should be serving.

They have been told over and over not to look at their competition's plans and pricing- leaving them clueless to serving you best with the right options which will custom fit your personal needs. And sadly, they are not aware that they could succeed outside of there and actually sleep easy at night.

IF YOU RECENTLY BOUGHT A PLAN, call the agent and tell them to rip but the check. If you have recently been approved and you are paying for the plan- By God, GET OUT!!!!

If you are thinking about buying and have an agent coming to your house, then ask these questions above. Tell them you are comparing with Golden Rule and Blue Cross and you would like their advice on what they think.....

If you are interested in pursuing the agent for any of these lies above, you can contact your state Office of Financial and Insurance Services (Google OFIS). They have a place on their site to report an agent.

health agents direct at yahoo will get me if you need new insurance. I will pass you on to one of my top sales guys in your state to contact you and treat you right.
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#76 Consumer Comment

Sounds like same sales tactics used by American Republic Insurance Company

AUTHOR: Gregg - (U.S.A.)

Man. I guess all these health insurance companies are the same. MEGA sales tactics and training (if you can call it that) sounds EXACTLY like what happens under American Republic Insurance Company (ARIC).

You are called in for an "interview" then show up suprised to see at least 5-10 other sheep in the room and learn that your "interview" is actually a presentation whereby the sales manager dangles the carrot in front of your eyes misleading you with salaries after your first year with residuals that follow.

Then they entice by signing you up for a license cert class whereby you pay $250 and then take the cheesy exam They defer all your questions until after their "Training" which is two days brain washing and then send you out into the field without knowing your product and expect you to brain wash poor innocent souls.

You are trained (brain washed) not to overwhelm your client with detailed info and just sell them the basic product and put as much pressure on them so that you don;t leave their home withou their premium check in hand, etc, yadda yadda yadda....

MEGA, American Republic, in essence all the same.

What a miserable life. What a scam. What stupid game. Predators. Thats all they are. I am so happy I did not fall for all that cr@p!
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#77 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

'Unsure' - Why would you take offense on a board where you hide your name and location and no one knows who you are? I use you as a generality. This board is to give advice to all others reading, not a personal dialogue just for you and I. Crying about me saying you might end up divorced because you don't take advice of people who are qualified to give it - is a little immature.

I'll say it again.... starting your own agency and getting contracted direct to the carriers straight out of Mega in my opinion is the worst idea ever. I have seen many, many agents suffer from doing that. You shouldn't think you are now on top of the world because you sold a bunch of lies in order for someone to buy your policies. (you = mega agents, so don't take offense 'unsure') When you make $5-7K+/week in less than 30 hours like we do, then you have this business down.

You are over-complicating things. Getting out of there is not as hard as you are making it.
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#78 Consumer Comment

definitely decided to look for health insurance elsewhere

AUTHOR: Confused - (U.S.A.)

Hey Unsure --

Thanks for the input on Alliance. I'm not sure how many of the benefits I would actually use, and almost $500 a year is a chunk of money. I've definitely decided to look for health insurance elsewhere (through an independent agent in the hopes of getting some real comparisons). The Mega agent I met with was very nice, as you mentioned, but at this point I just don't feel comfortable with the company. In any event, thanks again and I wish you the best in sorting out your own situation. Good Luck!
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#79 UPDATE Employee

Hi Confused

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Dear Confused,

I know of the agent you met with recently. She is respectable, very nice, and really does have your best interest in mind. She was the number one agent in the state of AZ last year. She is just not aware, however, of the MEGA product. It is NOT MAJOR MEDICAL. You can simply call Mega and ask them directly and they will say the truth - It is not Major medical. Call the number on the back of your CareOne broshure that she should of left behind.

As far as the "Alliance" goes, the dental is good and the cash payout is good. But you have to remember to call them in the event you are hospitalized. Will you really use all of those discounts? It is 40 bucks a month. I do not know if you want to buy the product or the agent - she is young and nice, but will you use the products??
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#80 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Hi Brian

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Brian, your a great recruiter and I appreciate you using me as an example. However, I do not receive your attack about my marriage or future. It is sad that you would mention that. It reveals who you are.

A lot of things that you say are true from a Health Insurance point of view, but you and your predictions of future events have no basis because you do not know me.

I may be unsure at the moment, but I take time in making big decisions - I believe it is using wisdom.
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#81 UPDATE Employee

I Know who you met with Confused

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Hi "confused"

I know the agent you met with. She is a nice young lady and she is the only agent working in Kingman. I would tell you to only get the "Alliance" if you know what you are buying and if you will actually use the products they offer. The dental is good and the cash pay out is ok if you are hospitalized (just do not forget to call them and let them know or they will not pay you.

The agent that you met with is respectable, kind, and is an AMAZING producer for the company. She is not aware of Mega's history nor about the limited plans.
You can buy the person you sat in front of, but the product really is "NOT MAJOR MEDICAL"

Do not get their Health Insurance even though the person you met with is an amazing individual.
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#82 Consumer Comment

What about Alliance for Affordable Services?

AUTHOR: Confused - (U.S.A.)

I met with a MEGA agent this afternoon and, after hearing her presentation, decided to research the company and subsequently found this site. After reading every post (man, that took awhile!) I've been prety much spooked away from the insurance, but I was wondering if the Alliance for Affordable Services aspect was worthwhile. Are the benefits genuine? Can it be purchased without the insurance, and, if so, what is the actual annual cost? Any help would be appreciated . . . Thanks!
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#83 UPDATE EX-employee responds

it's sad to see

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

"unsure" in CA is trapped in between two different worlds. He is stuck at Mega and can't leave because of his $50K debt. Yet, he has to keep his family alive- which means he needs to continue taking advances - which means he will continue incurring more debt.

The other world of insurance is just a neat idea right now. You know you need to be here, and so it messes up your Mega production numbers. If you do get the guts to leave, you have no idea which option is the best. Because you have been lied to by Mega, you think everyone is a liar now..... The more people to talk to, the more confused you become. It's evident in the words you use in your post about one carrier now better than the others.

Everyone knows that you can't have 1 carrier. You need 4-5 top carriers becuase yes, they change. What you don't realize now is that you need help to learn how to sell 10-12 apps/week in less than 40 work hours. THAT HELP COST YOUR MANAGERS TIME AND MONEY TO GIVE YOU!!!! So of course, they are going to get an over-ride on you - no matter where you go. (The over-ride you mentioned of 10-15% is not true. It's more like 3-5%).. I find it humurous that you mention this as a hot point - yet your District Manager, Division Manager and Regional Manager all get over-rides on your current production. With us, there is only one manger.

You could contract direct -which you will not get any help and you will only sell 3-4 policies a week and work 60 hours.

Good luck unsure - hope you don't stay "unsure", confused and trapped too long, as you will probably end up either divorced or out of the busienss selling tools at home depot.
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#84 UPDATE Employee

Most Important Thing Current Agents Should Know!

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

This is something I get asked over and over again and the company does not put any effort into explaining this to the agents. I am not sure if what they are doing is 100% legal but you can check on that.

When you write new business you are "advanced" your commissions upon submission. (this is why agents end up owning so much money and can never leave) When you start they tell you your first years 1099 will actually show less income then you actually recieved due to the fact you are not taxed on advances, only your actual earnings. This portion is the truth but they never explain why. What they leave out, in most cases, is that your advance is considered a loan from the company and like all loans you pay interest on it. While it is less then 1% take a look at the bigger picture. There are about 4500 agents nationally, with millions in advances paid out weekly, even at a small %, how much money is the company making off of these loans?

Interesting... Ask questions! Don't trust anyone... remember your mangers do make money off of your production... make sure they have your best interest in mind.
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#85 UPDATE Employee

Jay your leaving Mega to where?

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

This is good that I am responding to everybody at this stage of the game. I am on the fence finding out "HOW" to get out of the company and where to go from there. Yep, I owe the company a lot of money.

I see all the notes that Brian from Michigan and John from Ohio writes. Any SMART Mega Agent should know what they are saying about Mega is TRUE. But where do you go to get contracted and become your own agency?

If you work with Brain or John they will also get an override on you (at least 10 -15% according to John's Blog above 5/17/07) I am honestly not sure if this is the right way to go??? Even if they get overrides on your business, it sounds like you earn a lot more than what Mega can offer and at the same time shift your clients from one plan to another.

I also learned that Golden Rule right now is the "Best" Last year Assurant was the "Best" next year ???

If I go to work with one of these guys or find something on my own (not sure what agency) I will let all know where to go.

At least everyone can see my developed story in where I am in the month of Feb. 2008. I'll let everyoone know where I am at in the next few months and this time next year. That way you can see my struggle in what I am going through to get out of MEGA. If I find a strong Agency to contract with or if I open my own agency - I will share with others "HOW" to do it.

Good luck to all. You have gotta leave MEGA. Even though I have not quit the company yet, I call them the Exposed company(past history), which is constantly trying to Evolve into something Better in order to Become a Major Medical Provider!!!
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#86 UPDATE Employee

Current MEGA Agent Leaving... Company has gone too far!

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

I am a current agent for the NASE/MEGA/Health Markets who has been very successful to this point. Recently there have been things that have caused me to look elsewhere due to a lack of integrity by the company.

I have had their prototypical great start winning my quickstart class (a national contest for new agents) and attending their annual event in Dallas they call Reunion. The products are not the best but for what they are serve their purpose. I believe many of the problems are bad agents who do not explain the programs properly. What is my problem then?

I do not agree that people are forced into joining the NASE to gain access to the so called "group" to gain health coverage. Many of the agents spend a good amount of time tearing down under individual health programs because they are not a part of this "group" yet the MEGA plan is still individually underwritten, pre-existing are typically excluded, waivered, or rated up, and they still get annual premium increases, just recently about 12%.

What really upset me was my clients get a 12% rate increase this year and the annual 4 day event for the top agents, about 3,000, called reunion, cost, by some reports from management 11.5 million dollars! Had I known I would not have attended.

My advice, don't just take the agents word for it, do your homework, check with your state insurance department, BBB, etc. As for me... I am starting my own agency, doing things the correct way.
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#87 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Advice for All Mega Agents -

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

You are in a difficult, but typical Mega agent pickle. You thought you were "helping other people" by providing coverage that you were told by your managers was the best....but after time, you realized that you were putting yourself into deeper and deeper debt because the coverage your were offering was not what the clients expected it to be.

Because Mega's leads suck, you probably had to spend most of your own money to get people interested - just so that they would cancel when they started to compare or use their insurance.

You also spent a great deal of money and time driving all over 3 counties and running appointments on other's time schedule instead of yours, which has taken a toll on your family and personal life.

You dumped hard work, time and a whole lot of money into a company that you believed in, and now you owe them over $40,000. You now recognize that your were deceived and you feel this knot in your gut that won't go away.

There are many, many agents in this very spot today. Why are you still there?

Here's the truth: 1) Your managers lied to you from day one and will do whatever they can to hide you from agents like me. If you become enlightened, you will leave. That's why most agents close their eyes and continue to misrepresent their clients.

2) Even with the upgrades, your plans are still inferior than the competition is multiple ways and I can prove it.

3) If you continue to take advances on submittal, you will continue to put yourself into deeper debt and you will suffer once you want to leave.

4) Selling face-to-face is 1800's - we are in the 21st century and we use a cool thing called the internet to sell top major med policies from the comfort of our homes or offices. I personally am on pace to write $900,000 AV this year and I also train a team of over 75 agents spread all over the country. I spend $375 a month on an office, phone plan and internet. I will never run 1 physical appointment and I will retain over 95% of my clients.

5) Every agent that leaves and goes to the right place, doubles their income the first year out. I emphasize "the right place" (there are some bad places out there, so be careful)

6) If our clients what to shop for a different plan, we still keep them because we are not captive. In fact, we even make more money if they chose to leave.

7) We win beautiful trips, cash prizes, free quality leads every week, and national recognition.

8) We don't prospect - our clients call us

Sound too good to be true? It's not. IF YOU WANT OUT - CONTACT ME AT HEALTH AGENTS DIRECT at YAHOO . COM (altogether) I will only work with agents that are serious and ready to leave. I don't have the time to waste with answering 1,000 questions of "on the fence" agents. There are 100 reasons for you to leave and about 2 reasons you can think of to stay.

Good Luck - you can be successful outside of UGA. I promise!!
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How Do I get Out without owing so much money?

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Still need help on this one.

I have limited time trying to get out of the company because I need to keep setting up appointments in order to sell for the purpose of paying off my 40K debt with the company!!

Please help me, who do I get appointed with?? If I do move forward and other companies advance me 12 months in advance, what happens if they too cancel their policy? Will I have to pay back. I never want to be this stuck again in the future.
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#89 UPDATE Employee

BIG QUESTIONS About my Status as an AGENT

AUTHOR: Unsure - (U.S.A.)

Any suggestions whoever you are? I know you have been with MEGA for some years ??

I know about the MONSTER Resumes and the group Interview Process. I know about the over-rides.


Do you remember the Home Coming events?


I have been to a few HomeComings as a top producer and -get recognized. Pretty nice stuff.

It appears that at every HomeComing the president - who I respect gives his upgrade speech. Every year I start doubting what I am doing then at HomeComing the hope of helping people comes back. Their principles of helping people are great|!!

This year they are getting rid of (thank God) the 3 deductibles and are moving to a 1 deductible per year. THey are also going to 90% Coinsurance with a 4,000 Max out of Pocket (of covered expenses). It sounds exciting. I like that I can help many people. I do tell them a head of time (if they want a crap plan thats easy to do, if they want an awesome plan- CAREONE PLUS MEGAS best plan we can do that as well and beef it up all the more by adding CRITICAL CARE and Cash Income) You can bless people in the event they have to use it if they have the Care One Plus plan with Ancillaries)

However, I feel that HealthMarkets/UGA/AMG/Mega in connection with NASE whatever we are compliant to say, are simply just trying to catch of to the compettition. They were bought out by Blackstone and have made a lot of positive changes.

Yet, I still doubt in the accuracy of the coverage.

Also, I am frustrated that I have to get in my car every week, have late evenings, and get stood up multiple times in order to make a good income. Yes, I work hard over and over to just make it.

Those of you who are ex-agents. Do other agencies really pay higher? Really? Is it much easier to set appointments over the phone? Do I still have to call and call and call to leave many messages? Do cliets still have to wait 2 - 6 weeks before they get approved? Are the plans really better? If people move to another state can they keep their coverage or do they have to re-apply within the state and hope that they are still insurable??

Where do I go if I leave? Man, I owe the company a lot of money. I found this out last October and am trying to work through it in my own head. I owe much more than lets say 25k. Residual income is tough because so many people do cancel. I do buy up ton of leads to.

Any suggestions- whoever you are?
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#90 UPDATE EX-employee responds

How do you explain this?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

attorneypages.com/hot/mega-life-insurance-investigation-hefty-fines.htm

When 37 states come together and find these results, I would be nervous if I were a Mega agent. And anyone looking to buy from you.

Every once and a while current agents try and defend thier company that they force on to thier clients. They try to do it by related personal experiences, but the funny thing is....they never share experiences of thier clients.

I know agents that where taken care of well by Mega when thier policies stated otherwise- but only becuase they were agents that sold for them for a long time. Mega goes over the top for thier loyal producers by making sure they run out of the hospital and scream to the world the Mega paid all thier bills. I've seen it happen several times. One agent had a health choice policy and had over $100K in bills that Mega wasn't supposed to pay - but they did.

Fact is, they don't do grant the same "favors" to your clients who don't make them millions in sales.
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Negative Comments about Mega Life and Health

AUTHOR: Noainc - (U.S.A.)

I am and have been an active agent for Mega Life and Health in Alaska for ten years. I am also insured through them. I personally had large medical expenses two years ago, and chose to travel to Washington state for treatment as there is much better medical care available there.

I went to a specialist and my bills were paid promptly and exactly as the certificate of coverage states they would be paid. For people in Alaska it is often necessary to seek treatment outside due to the limited availability of specialist medical providers here. Many people here have limited options to leave to seek treatment elsewhere as their policies pay less to non preferred providers or out of network providers.

As a very productive agent with ten years of service, I have numerous clients and have received many calls from people thanking me and referring the vast majority of new clients. Alaska communities and cities are small compared to outside and news travels very fast, therefore my reputation is very important to me personally and from the aspect of continuing in business. The sheer volume of new clients who call me from referrals of existing clients speaks to me much clearer than many of the repulsive comments I have seen on this site.

There have been two managers in the past ten years and I can only say that they both are high standard and quality persons. It has been an excellent experience working with them over the years. The horror stories and turnover expressed in various comments on this site are not valid as witnessed by me personally.

I have experienced negative competition tactics by agents who represent other companies but my response has always been not to denigrate other carriers or agents. It is unprofessional and unethical. I have found that being honest and upfront with the public produces excellent results. I am the first one to suggest to a potential client that they might be better off going with an alternative if it appears that they would be better served.

I have found that people appreciate this manner of doing business and when added to a high satisfaction percentage rate with the carrier I represent has made my personal experiences as an agent excellent.

Thank you,
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Negative Comments about Mega Life and Health

AUTHOR: Noainc - (U.S.A.)

I am and have been an active agent for Mega Life and Health in Alaska for ten years. I am also insured through them. I personally had large medical expenses two years ago, and chose to travel to Washington state for treatment as there is much better medical care available there.

I went to a specialist and my bills were paid promptly and exactly as the certificate of coverage states they would be paid. For people in Alaska it is often necessary to seek treatment outside due to the limited availability of specialist medical providers here. Many people here have limited options to leave to seek treatment elsewhere as their policies pay less to non preferred providers or out of network providers.

As a very productive agent with ten years of service, I have numerous clients and have received many calls from people thanking me and referring the vast majority of new clients. Alaska communities and cities are small compared to outside and news travels very fast, therefore my reputation is very important to me personally and from the aspect of continuing in business. The sheer volume of new clients who call me from referrals of existing clients speaks to me much clearer than many of the repulsive comments I have seen on this site.

There have been two managers in the past ten years and I can only say that they both are high standard and quality persons. It has been an excellent experience working with them over the years. The horror stories and turnover expressed in various comments on this site are not valid as witnessed by me personally.

I have experienced negative competition tactics by agents who represent other companies but my response has always been not to denigrate other carriers or agents. It is unprofessional and unethical. I have found that being honest and upfront with the public produces excellent results. I am the first one to suggest to a potential client that they might be better off going with an alternative if it appears that they would be better served.

I have found that people appreciate this manner of doing business and when added to a high satisfaction percentage rate with the carrier I represent has made my personal experiences as an agent excellent.

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Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Great Post Above!!

I remember when I was REQUIRED to make my managers "post card" parties where we would all sit around and fill out postcards as a group. My manager would cut off our leads and basically disown us as an agent if we missed them.

Mega agents - why do you put up with that crap? If you don't know already, life outside of UGA is so much better.

You should fire your micromanager, low commissions, captive status, junk non-major med products, belly-to-belly sales and get into the real world of selling health insurance.

Why are you afraid? Is it loyalty to your manager or division pres? Are you comfortable making the money you are making? Is your heart set on making that next big trip? Do you love the product you are selling.

If so, there are plenty of great managers that you can create a new loyalty with. You will make more money than you are making now. The trips and incentives are just as big, if not better. I know you can't possibly love your products. And here's the kicker - you are not a captive employee. No longer a UGA droid blindly doing whatever you are told.

Get some defiance against your manager. I promise you they are ultimately looking out for themselves- not you. They get an over-ride on you, so sure they are going to nice to you when you work your a*s off to produce $15K AV this week. Do yourself a favor and look around at other products and how their plans work. I suggest looking at UHC/Golden Rule to start. No need to overwhelm yourself with too many. Look at the Co-Pay Select, Plan 100, Saver plans and HSA's.
If you need to know how to leave - check out my post above.
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#94 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Great Post Above!!

I remember when I was REQUIRED to make my managers "post card" parties where we would all sit around and fill out postcards as a group. My manager would cut off our leads and basically disown us as an agent if we missed them.

Mega agents - why do you put up with that crap? If you don't know already, life outside of UGA is so much better.

You should fire your micromanager, low commissions, captive status, junk non-major med products, belly-to-belly sales and get into the real world of selling health insurance.

Why are you afraid? Is it loyalty to your manager or division pres? Are you comfortable making the money you are making? Is your heart set on making that next big trip? Do you love the product you are selling.

If so, there are plenty of great managers that you can create a new loyalty with. You will make more money than you are making now. The trips and incentives are just as big, if not better. I know you can't possibly love your products. And here's the kicker - you are not a captive employee. No longer a UGA droid blindly doing whatever you are told.

Get some defiance against your manager. I promise you they are ultimately looking out for themselves- not you. They get an over-ride on you, so sure they are going to nice to you when you work your a*s off to produce $15K AV this week. Do yourself a favor and look around at other products and how their plans work. I suggest looking at UHC/Golden Rule to start. No need to overwhelm yourself with too many. Look at the Co-Pay Select, Plan 100, Saver plans and HSA's.
If you need to know how to leave - check out my post above.
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#95 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Great Post Above!!

I remember when I was REQUIRED to make my managers "post card" parties where we would all sit around and fill out postcards as a group. My manager would cut off our leads and basically disown us as an agent if we missed them.

Mega agents - why do you put up with that crap? If you don't know already, life outside of UGA is so much better.

You should fire your micromanager, low commissions, captive status, junk non-major med products, belly-to-belly sales and get into the real world of selling health insurance.

Why are you afraid? Is it loyalty to your manager or division pres? Are you comfortable making the money you are making? Is your heart set on making that next big trip? Do you love the product you are selling.

If so, there are plenty of great managers that you can create a new loyalty with. You will make more money than you are making now. The trips and incentives are just as big, if not better. I know you can't possibly love your products. And here's the kicker - you are not a captive employee. No longer a UGA droid blindly doing whatever you are told.

Get some defiance against your manager. I promise you they are ultimately looking out for themselves- not you. They get an over-ride on you, so sure they are going to nice to you when you work your a*s off to produce $15K AV this week. Do yourself a favor and look around at other products and how their plans work. I suggest looking at UHC/Golden Rule to start. No need to overwhelm yourself with too many. Look at the Co-Pay Select, Plan 100, Saver plans and HSA's.
If you need to know how to leave - check out my post above.
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#96 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mega Agents - Why do you stick around there?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Great Post Above!!

I remember when I was REQUIRED to make my managers "post card" parties where we would all sit around and fill out postcards as a group. My manager would cut off our leads and basically disown us as an agent if we missed them.

Mega agents - why do you put up with that crap? If you don't know already, life outside of UGA is so much better.

You should fire your micromanager, low commissions, captive status, junk non-major med products, belly-to-belly sales and get into the real world of selling health insurance.

Why are you afraid? Is it loyalty to your manager or division pres? Are you comfortable making the money you are making? Is your heart set on making that next big trip? Do you love the product you are selling.

If so, there are plenty of great managers that you can create a new loyalty with. You will make more money than you are making now. The trips and incentives are just as big, if not better. I know you can't possibly love your products. And here's the kicker - you are not a captive employee. No longer a UGA droid blindly doing whatever you are told.

Get some defiance against your manager. I promise you they are ultimately looking out for themselves- not you. They get an over-ride on you, so sure they are going to nice to you when you work your a*s off to produce $15K AV this week. Do yourself a favor and look around at other products and how their plans work. I suggest looking at UHC/Golden Rule to start. No need to overwhelm yourself with too many. Look at the Co-Pay Select, Plan 100, Saver plans and HSA's.
If you need to know how to leave - check out my post above.
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#97 Consumer Suggestion

employee or independent contractor

AUTHOR: Disillusioned - (U.S.A.)

I invite any rep from Mega Life, NASE or their clones to go to the web site of the internal revenue service and check out the IRS's rules defining employees versus independent contractors. IRS uses 20 guidelines to determine whether one is an employee or an independent contractor. Go there and read them yourself.

Mega Life, NASE and their clones are in violation of that IRS regulation. For one, if you are an independent contractor, YOU determine your working conditions. As an independent contractor in the insurance business, you are also free to sell any product authorized in your state that you are licensed to sell, even competing products. If you are in independent contractor, you cannot be required to attend weekly meetings and no one can withhold (or hold back) any properly earned commission. That is a violation of federal and state wage and hour laws.

Organizations like Mega Life, NASE and their clones operate in that manner because most of the employees (yes, they are employees - not independent contractors) are ignorant of their rights in the workplace and afraid to question the managers.

I had a close relative who was a retired attorney for the IRS and that is where I learned all this. I used to work for a clone of NASE and Mega Life about ten years ago and I filled out the form from the IRS on whether I was really an independent contractor and received a private letter ruling from the IRS that I was in fact an employee as defined by the IRS. That only affected myself, but if I had the time; I could have asked the IRS to enforce it on a nationwide basis.

So what does that mean for Mega Life, NASE and their clones? If their reps are classified by the IRS as employees, then they would have to withhold state and federal income taxes, remit them promptly to the IRS, pay the employer's matching social security tax, cover their reps under worker's compensation, pay unemployment compensation taxes and fully comply with all other regulations involving employer - employee relationships. Also NASE, Mega Life and their clones could be faced with massive back taxes, fines and penalties that could put them out of business.

After all it was the IRS that put Al Capone in prison for tax evasion. Knowledge is a very powerful force and someone knowlegable about the IRS definition of an independent contractor would be a very dangerous person for NASE and Mega Life.
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#98 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scoop on this company, the criticisms are correct

AUTHOR: Jane Doe - (U.S.A.)

This is lengthy, but it deserves a read. I am writing because I want sales people and consumers to be educated as to what I feel is the real problem behind MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company; which is its marketing company, UGA. I also want consumers to understand that just as many good sales people as bad sales people are selling both good and bad products. I also want to diminish the idea that only salespeople lie; sometimes the liars are the sales managers, perhaps the marketing company they represent, and sometimes the consumer as well.

The consumer. I worked in the insurance business on the sales side for a year, although I had been in sales for 14 years consecutive years prior. To be certain, there are plenty of consumers out there who also lie, and they are lying about their cancer history, smoking history and the real state of health they are in to try to get around paying higher premiums (we all know people who do this). This hurts everyone and also helps drive the rising cost of health care everywhere. Although I can empathize with the individual who cannot afford 2 blood pressure medications and their diabetes pills, and on top of that a $250/month premium, I also know for a fact that if many of these health care victims lost 30 pounds, they could eliminate most of their monthly medical costs, and help themselves afford a health care plan as well as increased daily life activities and a less painful older age.

With this in mind, the consumer's behavior can make it difficult for a salesperson to really respond to the need of health insurance, and really find the right product for the consumer sitting in front of him or her. Many people want insurance to pay for conditions that they could help manage themselves and many people need insurance for financial protection in the event that something devastating happened. Others simply want the preventative measures (blood tests, etc) to be paid for, and insurance companies offer something for everyone; but, they will not pay for everything.

UGA. I worked for UGA in 2005. Therefore, what I write here is based on my real experience as a selling agent in 2005, in Florida. I am certainly biased, as I feel that UGA is really a marketing company intended to make sales managers a lot of money, and the products and people, (and the art of sales and providing a good product to a good person) fail to deliver. Although every employee (at least in 2005 and prior to 2005) were all "self-employed" and worked in "satellite offices" of some sort, everyone operated under one big umbrella called UGA.

I was lied to during the recruiting sales presentation because I was told I would be self-employed (more on this in a bit). I was used to being self-employed, I was good at it, had worked as a business and market analyst, and a salesperson, and truly believe (and know) that America is driven by small businesses. I also know that small business owners are least likely to go to the doctor when they have a cold (heck, I was self-employed, I know!), but also need similar benefits that large companies have, they need to save money, and they need to be represented in the government. After listening to the sales pitch regarding the NASE/AFS and what they do for the small business, sole-proprietor, and their families, I thought I had found a company where I could really help the little guy customize a plan for him or her, and literally protect their assets with an indemnity plan (which is mostly what they sold in Florida in 2005, I do not know what they are selling now). Most people are not familiar with what an indemnity plan is; they are used to HMOs and PPOs and cannot seem to get their heads around any other plan out there other than "$10 co-pay".

So, here is the problem: you have products that are sold using Mega Life and Health Insurance's name in a market where no one understands any concept other than $10 co-pay, but they all want the best coverage for as little money as possible. Then you have UGA, which is the marketing company who recruits and pays its sales force, and they typically recruit new, young agents who do not understand the selling market when it comes to insurance products. This model works well for UGA because UGA makes their agents sign a contract that binds the agent to the company. In other words, the agent who is working 100% commissions, may only sell Mega Life and Health Insurance products in a market place that does not understand anything other than "$10 co-pay", and typically sells to people who will be less likely to use services (remember, the business owner does not usually go to the doctor, they are usually running their business... right?). As far as the NASE/AFS are concerned; not sure how they really benefit from this association other than more members, which translates to a bigger presence.

The fact is that Mega really does divulge everything about its plans up front in the literature they provide to the sales people... and the sales people are up against it since they only have a small number of products in an environment that is 100% commission, and remember they are captive, and the public also lie. It's a complicated industry, it really is, and I am not condoning a lying salesperson; but, again, I feel that the responsibility needs to be split down the middle... maybe in this case, three or four ways. The truth may be that many people might not qualify for Mega Life and Health Insurance's plans or might not be able to afford them; but, since the agent is captive, he/she may only sell those products to make all his or her income. Ratio seems a bit off with regards to the risks the self-employed agent takes.

If I were to offer some advice, I would tell the newer agent to get their license, and find an office where you can sell many different products from many companies. This seems like the true definition of being self-employed. People need protection (there is a need for insurance, no doubt), and being self-employed means that you take on all the risks; therefore, the rewards should be great. Agents, who are 100% commission from the start with no benefits, pay their own expenses, taxes, etc.; but then also have to call in their numbers every day, show up for a mandatory sales meeting weekly (some offices held paychecks if you did not show up), and you are given the bottom of the pile of leads that you are still paying for if your numbers went down, and cannot take vacations or your numbers will fall I did not feel self-employed at all. I was also "discouraged" from selling in other more successful sales people's "territories (managers), and was not given any leads in these areas even though I paid for my leads and my marketing, and the territories were closer to my home and in safer neighborhoods. My sales manager sent me out at least an hour in every direction to poor neighborhoods, and told me to make it work. As a market analyst, my mind could only be so open when I looked at the demographics. This is a captive agent's life.

The most successful people in UGA in 2005 were sales managers, not sales agents. The company seems to want the agent to be successful... and how can anyone blame them. The agents make the managers money. And if the agent leaves the company with bad business on the books (industry terms "not taken"), then the agent must repay the commissions. Of course I am sure most agents do not because I am sure they feel they have been taken for a ride, and I can understand why they would feel that way after my experience. I can only speculate how a driven sales person or entrepreneur could feel. For me it was not that bad because I was purposely not successful. I sold honestly, got lied to by some consumers who would tell me they need insurance for monthly blood transfusions only after I showed up to their door (which was at minimum, a 1 hour drive one way), but I made my way honestly and didn't make as much money. I was ok with that. One thing that was troublesome about my earnings though; my tax returns stated that I made thousands of dollars in earnings that I did not make. Anyone planning on working for UGA save your commission pay stubs as I am not sure how they computed the extra thousands but there it was on my 1099. I corrected that amount on my tax form and will keep those pay stubs for the next 20 years, just in case. So, perhaps during the recruiting sales pitch they will show you some sort of pay stub or earnings showing you that doing the bare minimum you can make XYZ in hindsight, I feel that perhaps some of those numbers were skewed, as my earnings certainly were.

In closing I think that Mega Life and Health Insurance Company products will do and will not do what they state they will do and will not do, but in many ways the products are ridiculous and are not providing (obviously, if you read consumer feedback) what the general public want or need. Also, based on all the complaints (and there are a lot!) from consumers, the sales force are not doing their job in explaining the products. Perhaps it's because deep down inside, they know the products are ridiculous and will not satisfy most of their customers. Shame on them, they should be brokers, not captive agents.

Speaking of the idea of a 100% commissioned captive agent is also ridiculous. Prior to being involved with UGA, I could not find any information on what it would be like to work with this company, so here it is: if you have a spouse or a large settlement or alimony payment that can support you for 5 years or so, and you really enjoy being a captive, non-employee with little security and no benefits, and you like taking all the risk of your own success, and you especially have a penchant for being told how to run your business and life everyday, then UGA is the perfect company for you.
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#99 UPDATE Employee

Problems with health insurance - ubiquitous

AUTHOR: Newagent In Sacramento - (U.S.A.)

From another thread:

I have Blue Cross of CA., health insurance as I live in CA. I also have a vacation home in Wisconsin. On a recent trip to Wisconsin while in that state I fractured my number T9 vertebrae in my back.

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I went to the local Urgent Care and saw a doctor. He took ex-rays of this break and recommended I see a surgeon immediately for surgery after the surgeon does an MRI.

So far I can not get approval from Blue Cross of CA for the surgery or MRI because they say that I have to be in CA to be treated. They also said it has to be an emergency. The doctor's office in Wisconsin has told them that it is an emergency yet Blue Cross of CA still denies me treatment and states that I have to be treated in the state of California. This is utterly ridiculous. I have an emergency situation out of state which they are supposed to cover but just flat refuse to do so.

How can a person with a broken bone in the backbone travel to CA for treatment?
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#100 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Are we Defaming Mega - or Exposing them?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

I'm not even going to waste time trying to explain to you how Mega and NASE have been in bed together from the very beginning - and that the reason a family pays $600+ /mo for a Mega policy isn't for road side assistance.....

I'm getting tired of seeing post from Mega agents that say this site is just a bunch of disgruntled agents....

If that's the case - then the USA Today is a Disgruntled newspaper:
usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2007-09-04-limited-coverage_N.htm?csp=34#uslPageReturn

And the Boston Globe:
http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2006/10/24/ag_sues_low_cost_health_insurer_on_practices/

Here's another disgruntled article:
http://www.selfemployedweb.com/mega-al.htm

Here's more disgruntled clients and agents:
http://nasesucks.org/

Oh - here's another:
"Mega Insurance Co.'s Broken Promises Leave New Parents Broke"
http://attorneypages.com/hot/mega-life-insurance-broken-promise.htm

And another:
"Delaware Fines MEGA Life Insurance Co. $500,000 for Insurance Violations"
http://www.delawareinsurance.gov/departments/news/101007-Press-MegaLifeHealthFined.shtml

And Another....
http://www.tortdeform.com/archives/2006/11/why_democrats_must_investigate.html

Here's one more:
http://www.pdxtc.com/wpblog/archives/13

So please - Mega agents - take your blinders off for just a few days and read through these articles and forums and find out if we are defaming the company - or if your Manager and Division have deceived you from when you walked into an interview where you knew nothing of the insurance industry until this very moment now. .
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#101 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Newagent In Sacramento - (U.S.A.)

Without details it is impossible to know if you understood your coverage or not.
NASE, a separate entity, has elected to use Mega Life as the health insurance underwriter for their group. The separate NASE benefits can be helpful. I do not have Mega insurance as I am a Vietnam vet who (per a law) was or could have been exposed to agent orange...and therefore have veterans coverage...but I do like the NASE benefits -- besides advocacy for small businesses I do have some basic term (10K) as a death benefit, some accidental death benefit (20K) and home office protection from vandalism/fire etc.

I do travel and the emergency airlift travel benefit is nice to have available...Mega insurance plans need to be clearly explained to customers. They are not designed for people who expect insurance to cover everything. I have concern that this web site promotes defamation from unhappy customers/clients who often never clarified what they were buying (I've read through AARP complaints, Primamerica etc and it seems it's the same complaints from the same group of unhappy people who had no idea what they bought...). It looks like this site is set up by attorneys seeking class action lawsuit clients...I do appreciate that they provide for rebuttals.
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#102 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thanx MK

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Hey MK - thanks for the good laugh!!
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#103 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Are you serious M K?

AUTHOR: Bay Area Agent - (U.S.A.)

M K Allaire, it looks like you might be a new agent for dear old Mega. Do yourself a favor and read this entire thread and you might find yourself enlightened. Take off your blinders so you can see that NASE is just a front for Mega/Health Markets. The line that "We've selected the best insurance provider" is pure bs. The only reason your asked to sell stand alone memberships is to ward off regulators noticing that NASE does not exist outside of Mega. If you're not a newbie and are a vet in that organization trying to do some damage control, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME.

I am not saying all or even a majority of the sales reps of Mega (UGA/Cornerstone) are bad folks. But the honest to God truth is that the operation to it's core is criminal in nature in that they exploit people's ignorance of how true health insurance works. No matter what Mega or Midwest "plan" you furnish from their nice little brochures, they ALL limit what they will pay and leave the client totally exposed.

Don't waste any keystrokes on the baloney that "those are the old plans. what we have now is much better." Just have a lawyer review the actual insurance contract that arrives for your clients and you will readily see the gaping holes in every single one of their policies. In fact, there are lawyers already doing that who are working on class action lawsiuts against Mega.

So, M K, get out while you can. Don't let the facade crumble around you. Find another carrier to represent that has solid policies that leave your clients with true peace of mind. And if you're one of those that's been around for years and are in management or are just in too deep, good luck to you! Save your soul and join the crusade against these gangsters!
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#104 Consumer Suggestion

NASE and MEGA Life and health are NOT the same company

AUTHOR: M K Allaire - (U.S.A.)

I am appointed with MEGA Health and Life. NASE is the National Association for Self-Employed. It is a non-profit organization that lobbies for self-employed and provides many benefits for the same. MEGA is partnered with NASE, and is a for-profit insurance company. NASE offers discount plans for doctor visits, dental, vision and labs. It has been confusing about which service is being used. If someone uses NASE when they think they are using their insurance-MEGA, the result would be what happened here. The agent who sold the poicy should have explained more clearly and been available for questions from the client.
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#105 Consumer Suggestion

Insurance 101

AUTHOR: Sandra - (U.S.A.)

I have read all of your responses. I am a licensed insurance agent who has switched a number of my clients to reputable insurance companies who are listed on the AM Best and who are in good standing with the Insurance Commissioner in my state. I also look into and review the competition and ask questions. If you have a complaint against an insurance company file a complaint with the Insurance Commissioner in your respective state.

The one thing I figured out about Mega after reviewing these policies for a client is that they say they are a group plan when in all reality they are individually underwritten and issued. So, some people with health issues may or may not get a policy.

Health insurance is simple deductible, co insurance, total out of pocket of usual and customary charges. There may be a Prescription card and doctor office copays. If the plan tells you what the maximum is they will cover or states a value on the services it is not "true health insurance" it is a supplemental plan and should not be taken as health insurance. Remember there is usually a $2,000,000 lifetime maximum on health insurance, but if a company tells you a low figure for each service that is their maximum. Buyer beware.

The other problem I have with MEGA is the number of complaints with the State Insurance Commissioner and the severity of the claims filed against the company as well as its agents. The consumer needs to beware of companies and agents looking for a quick sell. Check those companies out thoroughly before you buy a policy that may or may not be insurance.
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#106 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I hope you cancelled your policy

AUTHOR: Ex Employee Of 4th Floor Healthmarkets - (U.S.A.)

I sure hope you have cancelled your policy. I was recently "laid off" by the company because I did not agree with the ethics and inhumane way of treating the employees. They treat us life slaves. This is junk insurance. Tell everyone you know that this company is a HUGE scam. get out now before you make the rich richer.
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#107 UPDATE EX-employee responds

UA & MEGA

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

UA is a midgrade carrier the fits a niche market of individuals who are suffering from many conditions that fully underwritten carriers will not accept. Diabetes, bad backs and knees, recent tumors and cancers, arthritis, etc. There are still a number of declinable conditions, but UA is far more lenient.

We personally don't sell a ton of it because that's not the kind of business we are seeking after. However, we run into it all of the time.

Mega agents entire philosophy has always been - "something is better than nothing" - so United American is a perfect fit for them.

But Get This Mega Agents! I can offer my agents the exact same United American contracting that you have -selling the EXACT same policies. BUT pay them almost 15% higher commissions - and its annualized! What does that tell you about your AMAZING UGA/Cornerstone?? it tells me that you are getting ripped off that they are taking most of your commissions. Remember- you have to give up 3 levels of commissions to your uplines that work so hard for you and teach you how to sell in all the wrong ways.

Could that extra 15% (180% advance) help you buy your own leads and put your own money into shares with a company that actually has a good name? I think so. The same thing goes for your underwritten Mega policies and your minimal commissions. Do the math. It doesn't make sense to be there. You are paying too high a price with very little in return!

By the way, ever heard of Chesapeake Life? There are available to non-captives to sell as well. You don't even want to know how much more you would make if you were a FREE AGENT.
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#108 UPDATE EX-employee responds

United American Products are being sold by MEGA / NASE agents?

AUTHOR: Rhapsody - (U.S.A.)

I am considering selling for United American only to find out that MEGA / NASE agents are selling there products also. In your opnion is United American just another front for MEGA / NASE type products and services? Thanks for all of your input it really does help. I am just looking for a good health insurance company to work for.

Thanks
Rhapsody
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#109 UPDATE EX-employee responds

So if everything is so fantastic....

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

....then Mega wouldn't mind if you got appointments to sell all the other available carriers in your state - still give you leads and stock. After all, why would they worry if they have the best plans at the best rates?

Go ask your manager if you can pick up those appointments. When he says no just ask why. He'll say because UGA provides leads, bonuses and stock. Your reply is "but if they have the best plans and rates why would it matter that I'm able to sell all available companies. Wouldn't almost all of my sales still be Mega?"

Funny, all of my carriers are confident enough that they'll get their fair share that they allow me to sell for anyone and most give me free leads. All of them give me bonuses and trips.

But you go ahead and continue to show up with one company and pound away on that sqare peg to make it fit in the round hole. I'd rather show up with seven carriers and match my client to the proper plan.

The difference between you and me is you have to SELL your plans. My clients simply choose a plan.

Anyway, tell everyone there good luck with the results of that 32 state investigation. The results become public in a month or two.
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#110 UPDATE Employee

Not Taught to Lie

AUTHOR: Independentgeorge - (U.S.A.)

I am a current NASE/Mega agent who found this thread because a friend told me about it and thought I might find it interesting. First off I will be the first to admit that insurance can be very bad. These plans through Mega that allow you to manipulate the coverage really create the opportunity for misrepresentation whether or not the agent was doing this deliberately or not. I fight with people on a daily basis who demand me to strip their coverage down in order to meet a price point. I have NEVER been instructed to pretend or represent that these plans are going to cover everything. The brochures I use in my appointments are pretty easy to read and the coverage limits is in pretty large and clear print.

I would rather lose a sale than be called a liar after the fact. I have never had anyone instruct me that misrepresentation may be worth the advance. All insurance companies in my state are held to the same regulations. I am trained to highlight our exclusions and limitations in the brochure when I sit down with a potential client. These plans are designed for people who can't afford a plan that covers all of everything. I had a plan through an employer that still didn't cover everything that cost 4 times what my Mega plan costs my family and I.

The differences I highlight come down to this. The association provides some discounts on business, medical and personal expenses. They are listed quite clearly. The association provides guaranteed renewability and rate stability comparatively speaking. The insurance offers certain percentages of coverage up to certain amounts and the client can dictate almost all the terms. The client has a lot of control over what goes into the plan and that allows them to only pay for things they feel they need or want.

What the Health Markets plans offer is the ability for the client to evaluate their risk and exposure and transfer it to the parts of the plan they feel they may not be too likely to need. They can shift practically all the deductible to the less likely hospital/surgical scenarios and get faster access to the more likely outpatient needs.

I've often read about the limits on the chemotherapy coverage. I've had a few clients who were going to face amounts that were going to go over the daily maximums. We called a case manager and had those limits waived each and every time. I have not had a single phone call from a client who had their claims denied.

These plans are designed for people who can't afford the Cadillac plans that pay for everything. This is risk MANAGEMENT. Not risk transfer.
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#111 Consumer Suggestion

So Many Agents...

AUTHOR: Jon - (U.S.A.)

It's good so many Agents are responding to this, because frankly... The only ones who know about WHAT is offered are the ONE'S SELLING IT.

First, my background is a licensed insurance agent for over six years. I also have other financial credentials that I don't care to mention, seeing as forums like this have a tendency to rebut with "You are worthless because real estate has nothing to do with..." and completely ignore my insurance licensure.

I have a friend that bought NASE and Mega Health, and got just PATHETIC service from them. The prior experiences of over-scrutinizing claims, especially as pre-existing conditions, even with creditable or prior coverage, seems a legitimate concern.

Although my religious beliefs are not normally relevant, they are here because Christians purport themselves to be moral & caring. Why is this relevant?

I was appalled to hear another Christian Agent selling Mega Health on a Christian, non-profit radio station. I feel for his clients & him, and I am ashamed I haven't called him on the carpet about this HORRID company.

Why does that matter? It seems likely to me that Mega is brainwashing it's Agents; and, like every good MLM company, ostracizing anyone who disagrees and gets out.

Hence, my joke of the day:
What does Mega Health and Amway have in common?
The smart one's always leave and find something similar, better and HONEST.

I recommend Colorado Mega "marks" (a con word for policyholders) contact the Department of Insurance / Division of Regulatory Authorities. There is a he**-raiser at DORA that just smashed up all the Insurance Agents in the State that were naughty, them the Mortgage Brokers, and then moved on to Real Estate Agents.

Those who quesiton my integrity, know this: In all three messes, I have a license in all three during the 'reign of terror' and I have never been questioned. I also happen to be voluntarily assisting a client in suing a lender I was a broker on!

When will the law and big business learn what BROKER means: I REPRESENT THE CLIENT. Excuse the rant. :)
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#112 UPDATE EX-employee responds

USA TODAY - FRONT PAGE ARTICLE ON MEGA LIFE & HEALTH.... SEPT 5th. 2007

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Attention all Self Employed, 1099's, Sub Contractors, SBO's and ANYONE ELSE thinking about buying from a recent Mega agent that sat in your home or office and tried to swindle you into buying this insurance....

READ THIS ARTICLE!

usatoday.com/money/industries/insurance/2007-09-04-limited-coverage_N.htm?csp=34#uslPageReturn

All you Mega agents that are NEW (85% of you) and don't know any better -GET OUT! There are much better companies to represent..... All you old school managers - keep praying that this company stays alive just long enough for you to cash out on your precious stock papers you collect at District Meetings, frame and hang on your walls.

This article helps prove that everyone on this message board who exposes the TRUTH about UGA, MEGA, MIDWEST, NASE, FSA, HEALTH MARKETS, ETC- that we are not some disgruntled x-agents, but that we are fighting for the same cause as soo many others who have been SCREWED by this company
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#113 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jayne - your ROP Rider.....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

WOW - I amazed that your agent dosn't call you back. Either he/she is no longer there, or they are just too hearless to tell you the truth about these questions you have.

If you have a Health Choice Plan, you need to get off of it immediately and eat the money you paid into it......

At your ages, if you end up with a major illness - you will have to file bankruptcy due to medical bills that won't be paid by Mega.

Read your policy through and then see if you are still between a rock and a hard place. Read about ALL of the caps, the ACE rider, the chemo benefits, etc.

It' shouldn't have the privilege of being called insurance.

I promise you there are better plans for your money! Check out your local Blue Cross plans and/or United Health Care.
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#114 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ALL MEGA AGENTS ON YOUR WAY OUT....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

MEGA AGENTS LOOKING TO LEAVE- Hear you go.... As much as I would love to have you on my team ... I will give you all of my unbiased advice I can so that you can leave without all of the headaches and misery I see a lot of agents go through.

1) Be smart about leaving. You most likely have a family to feed, so you don't want to go the next 2 months without a paycheck because your left too hastily. That's a sure way to see yourself right out of the industry all together. So be sure to do your homework. What homework? -

2) Homework is actually becoming familiar with your competition WHILE you are still making a little bit of money at UGA. The more ambitious your are to leave, the faster these plans will excite you as you read them and see their pricing. You need to start reviewing brochures and downloading software of the top industry carriers like United Health Care, Blue Cross, Assurant, World, Etc. Obviously, you need to do this under the radar. Do it from home. Don't let your MGR see your computer with a bunch of loaded competitors on it.
You can usually get brochures directly from the companies themselves. Sometimes they will try and send one of their big agencies in your area to call and recruit you. If you need brochures, than send me an email and I will gladly email them to you. I will not try and recruit you. (health agents direct at yahoo)


3) Once you feel comfortable enough to sell these plans, be careful who you get appointments with! Getting appointments takes about 10 minutes of your time, but could mess you up if you choose a bad GA or MGA. The agency that you choose will actually have an impact on your next 6-9 months, because they are protected by a waiting period before they have to release you.

You want an agency that will give you the most bang for your buck...i.e. LEADS, STRONG COMMISSIONS % and ADVANCES. You will most likely also want SUPPORT for your up line seeing as how you are relatively new to our way of selling vs. the UGA way. You want someone who is going to spend time with you and teach you the real world of health insurance products. ALSO - you want an agency that will set you up with a direct pay from the insurance carriers themselves. Meaning, do not do assignment of commissions! This will enable your upline to hold your book of busienss and not you.

4) DEBIT BALANCES - Mega will pursue you for your debit balance in most cases. The only times that I have not seen them do it is when an agent threatens to take the nasty training evidence they hold to their state OFIS department. Mega typically backs down and sends you a 1099 for the debt that isn't paid back by the policies that stay on your books. If Mega does still come after you, they may go as far as to sue you for the money. So, be sure to set up a payment plan with them before they do that. REMEMBER - (THIS GOES TO YOU "HELP ME" in CT) that if you wrote $100,000 AV in issued business with me or many others, you would make almost $20,000 in commissions. So, do the math & set Mega up on a payment plan, roll your book of business out completely - place your clients in better coverage, win some trips, and live a happier life! It really is not as scary or difficult as many of you think.

5) DON'T BE AFRAID OF YOUR MANAGERS OR CO-IDIOT GROUPEES AT UGA. They will all try and make you feel like you are traitor. Your District MGR and Division MGR will try and scare you. Stand firm and make your way out. Don't commit to do anything for them (like leave your office furniture or not talk to anyone, or tell them where you are going). JUST GO and don't turn back!!

I have seen it time as time again - John you probably have as well......Mega agents will slit their wrist for UGA in their beginning stages - but eventually see their way out once they start to really understand the game of insurance and get tired of constantly losing to the companies they could be selling to their clients.

Hopefully this message helps. I could list over 100 X-MEGA agents that are still going strong today and are VERY successful. My point - your managers are liars and only keep you in the dark because they don't want to lose your over-rides they make off of every sale you force out of your clients.

GOOD LUCK!!!
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#115 UPDATE Employee

would like independent agent advice

AUTHOR: D - (U.S.A.)

I too recently jumped into uga and mega head first and have decided to jump ship before i build a debt. i started seeing all the odd (this company isn't right) signs in the very beginning. I'd like to become independent and would like some advice on doing so, is it as simple as becoming appointed with the companies available in my state of texas? silverrotary at yahoo
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#116 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Paybacks for HelpMe

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Help Me, go back to the postings of 5/19/07 and newer. There are some ideas (completely your choice to folow or not). I paid my amount back in 3 months ( a lot less than yours, for sure, but I didn't know what else I could do). Fight them for it all. Kick em in the balls for me, too.
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#117 UPDATE Employee

Any Advice?

AUTHOR: Help Me - (U.S.A.)

I am a current....soon to be Ex-Employee of the NASE/Mega Life and Health and all the other Alias hide behind names they use.

I'm have been with them for almost a year now.....Yes, They Sold me the DREAM!!
I was a Quick Start winner and made Senior Agent within the first 10 weeks of employment and continued to write a lot of business up until recently.....now that I am starting to really understand more about the Industry and more importantly....more about this company itself!!!!

I'm not trying to brag about my success, but rather to make a point about the comments made here by Ex-Employees!!

When I first found out about this web site, RipOffReports.Com, it was actually from a lead that I sat with to go over a policy. Needless to say......I never sold the policy to them. When I got back to the office, I had questioned my district manager about this site and his reply was "Those comments are made by Ex-Agents who could not make it in the company,so they got mad and posted this stuff here". So I just brushed it off and continued to write business. Then the more I started to understand or I guess I should say " I finally started to questions many things about this company", I went to this web site and started to read all the comments about NASE and MEGA.Well, GUESS WHAT, I'm a successful agent and I am posting a comment here too!!

I read so many of the comments and rebuttals, and I tell you........Just about EVERYTHING I read from the Ex-Agents are sooooo familiar and TRUE. From the weekly cheerleading meetings to try to get everyone pumped up and believing in these products and of course believing in "Living The Dream",to asking a question about a certain coverage on a policy and getting 3 or more different answers(No One seems to know what the real answer is to the question, or rather they just don't want you to know!!),and the office door is like one of those revolving doors at a hotel(Unbelievable how many people leave and get hired on a weekly basis) and like me when I was hired, all the NEW hires usually have NO Experience in the Health Insurance Industry!!

In one of our weekly "cheerleading" meetings....a New Agent asked a question "How important is it to know your competitors policies"? The answer she go back from the Division Manager was "Not important at all, as a matter of fact....it would probably hurt you because you will only confuse your customer trying to explain the differences".
Hmmm, I think what he really wanted to say was " You don't want to know your competitors policies, because then you will know how bad yours are in comparison". Yes, I started to really compare and review other companies policies and I discovered the differences.............I'm canceling my Mega Policy this month and going with Anthem!!!

Anyway......as I said before....I am a soon to be Ex-Agent with this company, and I was looking for some advice from ANY Ex-Agents.
I guess this is my fault because I didn't really understand the pay structure and how it really works when I jumped head first into this dream(In my defense, they certainly where not up-front with how it works during the hiring process either)

But If I where to leave this company today, my financial responsibility would be around $15k. Now, I don't have $15k laying around to pay this company back when I leave, but I certainly cannot continue to sell the policies to Individuals and Families, knowing that they can get much better coverage and usually for less money with another company. So I'm kinda in between a Rock and Hard Spot....
Any advice from anyone would be greatly appreciated!!!
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#118 Consumer Comment

Return of Premium

AUTHOR: Jayne - (U.S.A.)

Brian is absolutely right when he said this rider is for the brand new business owner who has never had exerience purchasing health insurance on his own. In 1999, my husband decided to "go out on his own" as a consultant. We got a line on NASE and the local insurance guy who was pushing Mega as the best for the self-employed.

In going through the brouchures, we came upon the ROB rider. Since we were both 50 at the time, just under the wire, we felt this was a good idea since we'd only have 15 years to go. Brian is right again about paying extra for the rider, but we felt this would be a nice chunk of change at age 65.

We are now at the 8 year mark and I was beginning to have my doubts about the coverage, the ever increasing monthly premiums, and is it worth it. The first few years, we didn't have many claims but within the last, say, two years, we've had expenses (growing old is a b***h!). I have kept every piece of paper I've ever gotten from them to include the claim sheets of what they paid or wouldn't pay and began having my doubts.

I guess it's taken me longer to figure all this out since I'm the one in charge of health insurance coverage and what do I know. We were covered for most things so I was just fat, dumb and happy 'til recently. I was in the process of trying to get a printout from Mega of what THEY thot our claims have been and what they have paid and what I paid to see if they matched with what I have, when I found this webpage.

I'm thinking now I should look for other coverge and get what I can at this point from the ROB rider. It's just hard to give up that amount of money in 7 more years but after reading all these comments, I have become concerned about our coverage and whether or not they would really pay out that amount of money (I understand that it is minus what they pay out -- which is actually very little, hence, the printout!) at age 65 or if their history is coming up with some kind of lame excuse for not paying.

Unfortunately, John, being self-employed, we have no one in our office, we don't even HAVE an office, to whom I can go to get information on any other plans or companies. Even the guy who sold us this policy didn't call me back the last time I tried to contact him. I have this rock in front of me and a hard place behind me that just got bigger after reading this webpage. :)
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#119 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ROP is a sales gimmick

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Jayne, not only does adding ROP jack up the price but no one will ever cash in. The rate increase will have most people canceling after 2 years, a few more might be able to stick it out for 3 years, less than 1% will last 5 years and your entire book of business will evaporate after 5 years due to rate increases. Also remember they only get their money back less claims paid. And when you're selling plans with more holes than swiss cheese then.

But don't believe me. Sit down with an agent in your office who's been there 5 years or longer and ask to see his reports showing clients who are still on the books from 5 years ago. My money says he won't show you or lie and say he doesn't have those reports. All UGA agents get client reports.

One last piece of advice Jayne - NEVER listen to anyone who's making an override off of you. They will tell you anything just to keep you writing business so they can make money while you're out driving all over your state.

On this board we have no vested interest. It doesn't impact us financially if you stay or quit so this is unbiased advice. Your managers will tell you people on boards like this are "bitter" because we couldn't make it or got fired. I averaged 14K a week and I quit the day after getting a $1,600 check. I made great money with UGA but you can also make great money robbing banks. I no longer had it in my heart to sit down and sell lacking coverage to unsuspecting people.

If you like, I can describe the trips I won and attended with UGA in graphic detail. I got into this business to help people. I'm not helping them by selling plans where the deductible needs to be met three times.
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#120 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ROP is a sales gimmick

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Jayne, not only does adding ROP jack up the price but no one will ever cash in. The rate increase will have most people canceling after 2 years, a few more might be able to stick it out for 3 years, less than 1% will last 5 years and your entire book of business will evaporate after 5 years due to rate increases. Also remember they only get their money back less claims paid. And when you're selling plans with more holes than swiss cheese then.

But don't believe me. Sit down with an agent in your office who's been there 5 years or longer and ask to see his reports showing clients who are still on the books from 5 years ago. My money says he won't show you or lie and say he doesn't have those reports. All UGA agents get client reports.

One last piece of advice Jayne - NEVER listen to anyone who's making an override off of you. They will tell you anything just to keep you writing business so they can make money while you're out driving all over your state.

On this board we have no vested interest. It doesn't impact us financially if you stay or quit so this is unbiased advice. Your managers will tell you people on boards like this are "bitter" because we couldn't make it or got fired. I averaged 14K a week and I quit the day after getting a $1,600 check. I made great money with UGA but you can also make great money robbing banks. I no longer had it in my heart to sit down and sell lacking coverage to unsuspecting people.

If you like, I can describe the trips I won and attended with UGA in graphic detail. I got into this business to help people. I'm not helping them by selling plans where the deductible needs to be met three times.
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#121 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ROP is a sales gimmick

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Jayne, not only does adding ROP jack up the price but no one will ever cash in. The rate increase will have most people canceling after 2 years, a few more might be able to stick it out for 3 years, less than 1% will last 5 years and your entire book of business will evaporate after 5 years due to rate increases. Also remember they only get their money back less claims paid. And when you're selling plans with more holes than swiss cheese then.

But don't believe me. Sit down with an agent in your office who's been there 5 years or longer and ask to see his reports showing clients who are still on the books from 5 years ago. My money says he won't show you or lie and say he doesn't have those reports. All UGA agents get client reports.

One last piece of advice Jayne - NEVER listen to anyone who's making an override off of you. They will tell you anything just to keep you writing business so they can make money while you're out driving all over your state.

On this board we have no vested interest. It doesn't impact us financially if you stay or quit so this is unbiased advice. Your managers will tell you people on boards like this are "bitter" because we couldn't make it or got fired. I averaged 14K a week and I quit the day after getting a $1,600 check. I made great money with UGA but you can also make great money robbing banks. I no longer had it in my heart to sit down and sell lacking coverage to unsuspecting people.

If you like, I can describe the trips I won and attended with UGA in graphic detail. I got into this business to help people. I'm not helping them by selling plans where the deductible needs to be met three times.
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#122 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ROP is a sales gimmick

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Jayne, not only does adding ROP jack up the price but no one will ever cash in. The rate increase will have most people canceling after 2 years, a few more might be able to stick it out for 3 years, less than 1% will last 5 years and your entire book of business will evaporate after 5 years due to rate increases. Also remember they only get their money back less claims paid. And when you're selling plans with more holes than swiss cheese then.

But don't believe me. Sit down with an agent in your office who's been there 5 years or longer and ask to see his reports showing clients who are still on the books from 5 years ago. My money says he won't show you or lie and say he doesn't have those reports. All UGA agents get client reports.

One last piece of advice Jayne - NEVER listen to anyone who's making an override off of you. They will tell you anything just to keep you writing business so they can make money while you're out driving all over your state.

On this board we have no vested interest. It doesn't impact us financially if you stay or quit so this is unbiased advice. Your managers will tell you people on boards like this are "bitter" because we couldn't make it or got fired. I averaged 14K a week and I quit the day after getting a $1,600 check. I made great money with UGA but you can also make great money robbing banks. I no longer had it in my heart to sit down and sell lacking coverage to unsuspecting people.

If you like, I can describe the trips I won and attended with UGA in graphic detail. I got into this business to help people. I'm not helping them by selling plans where the deductible needs to be met three times.
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#123 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Fluff....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Who ever buys that? When I was there I never sold it. I never heard of any agent who ever did.

Here are the questions your clients will ask (either before, during or after the sale)

1) Is it worth is to pay the extra $100+/mo for this rider?
2) Do I want to lock myself in with this INCREDIBLE insurance basically for the rest of my life?

This rider is for the brand new busienss owner who has never had experience purchasing health insurance on his own. Any "experienced" business owner knows that they will be shopping thier maket (with a good agent) year after year when rate increases come through - pending they are healthy.

Any experienced agent that runs into a Mega Client - will quicky prove the math doesn't make sense - and the coverge is poopy.

If your client gets $50,000 back - it may cover 1/8th of the OOP they had to pay during the course of 20 years of having it........
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#124 Consumer Comment

Return of Premium Benefit

AUTHOR: Jayne - (U.S.A.)

OK, you guys have me scared. I must admit that I haven't read ALL the comments here but right off hand, I haven't read anything being said about the return of premium benefit. To those of you who have worked there, please advise. Is this a gimmick or is it something real.
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#125 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tell your brother...

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

....to go tell his manager that he doesn't want to participate in any stock program or receive any leads. Instead, he wants to get contracted with all the major carriers in the state, get his own clients and sit down and sell them the product that best fits their situation.

Then come back and tell us all how that went.

All of carriers operate in this manner. Assurant doesn't matter if I have a Blue Cross contract. Blue Cross doesn't matter if I have United Healthcare. I still get free leads from many of my companies and two of my carriers have lead programs. All of them have bonuses and almost all have vacations.

So just why, if you want to turn down UGA leads, would they care if you represent all the carriers? I know why - and so does UGA management. I used to hear all the time "UGA is the largest field force in the country!" Lol. UGA is the only field force in the country. All the other carriers can be represented by independent agents and brokerages.

Production? Companies like Aetna, Blue Cross, and United Healthcare write more individual business in a day than Mega does in a month. Get real. How is that possible without a captive field force?

I'm quite sure UGA needs to keep their agents in the dark. They'd hate for it to be known that you can sell health insurance online for 20% full year advances. In the time it takes a UGA agent to drive, pitch, close and drive back I've already submitted the app then walked into my kitchen to get a drink.
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#126 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Huh?

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Congratulations, you know now more than your brother does about the insurance he sells people for a living.

If you had any sense at all you would tell your brother to run as fast away from Mega as possible.

I don't think too many people will understand your post. That's just the thing -why in the heck would anyone want a plan full of all that garbage??? Stipulation here VS stipulation there.... You said it yourself- your knowledge of health insurance is a $20 co-pay right?

Hey how about this Benjess.....i will sell your bro's clients an HSA that has 1 deductible for the whole family for the year??? - then everything is covered 100% after the deductible. No caps, no "per occurrences" - nada. Plus, they can build their Savings Account up to meet their yearly deductible - then everything is 100%.......

That was easy! Price is going to be much lower than his 98 page Mega plan of god knows what is and isn't covered.

Fact is, your brother is going to make more money selling better coverage with better pricing that is less confusing.

I was just talking to Mega agent yesterday and he was telling about when he was only 2 months into UGA as an agent.....he walked into his prospects' place of business and told the man he was with Mega. The man literally jumped over the table and grabbed him by the shirt and threw him right out the door. He scared the crap out of this agent because he was a big guy! Obviously, he was all shook up and the man told him that if his wife were present, she would have probably pulled a gun.....

The agent apologized for Mega and asked why this man was so angry. The man proceeded to explain that he and his wife went bankrupt and lost everything they worked so hard to obtain with their little business....all while paying over $700/mo for a premium their "NEW" agent sold them.

My point- your little brother may be a saint, but eventually he will create a whole list of enemies due to signing on the dotted line of UGA's crap contract.

Go ahead - dissect the contract that your brother signed..... As a nice big brother, you would do that for him right? It 100% protects Mega and UGA and leaves your brother out to FRY when his clients start complaining or when he tries to leave.

He still has time to run. Don't let him get trapped there!
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#127 Consumer Comment

Figure this out for myself...

AUTHOR: Benjess - (U.S.A.)

First let me tell you that I have group insurance through my engineering/architectural firm where I am employed. I have my part of the premiums taken out of my check, I pay my $20 co-pay and that's pretty much it for my knowledge of health insurance. My brother on the other hand is an agent for UGA which sells MEGA health insurance. He has been there for approximately 3 years. My brother is an honest, hard-working young man. He has a family and is a straight up person as you'd ever find. The other night I was bored and typed in Mega health insurance on Google and found this report. I have never really inquired as to what my brother sold but after reading a few postings I became very interested. So I went to my brothers house and asked him for some information regarding some health care coverage. My posting today is directed to Robert from Tampa and his post on 06-19-2007 entitled Their new 'awsome care one plan'

Robert said:
No where in the 30+ page brochure is the word 'Major Medical' mentioned. How ever on page #21, the fourth line down states, 'It is not a replacement for comprehensive health insurance coverage and should not be construed as such.'

My findings:
It is a 33 page document. Page 21 is the information for the Dental Insurance Plan. The statement 'It is not a replacement for comprehensive health insurance coverage and should not be construed as such.' I could not find in the document.

Robert said:
In Patient Physician Visits are 'LIMITED' to $100 per visit with a 'LIMIT' of one visit per day. Can you imagine a heart doctor (cardiologist) or a neural
surgeon working for $100 per day!

My findings:
This is not found in the document.

Robert said:
Chemotherapy is 'LIMITED' to $1500 per treatment. The average chemotherapy treatment cost is $3,000 to $5,000 per treatment. Once again
a limited benefit paying only a small percentage of the actual cost to the client.

Radiation is 'LIMITED' to $1,250 per day. Once again a limited benefit paying only a small percentage of the cost to the client.

My findings:
If you have an approved course of action meaning you and the doctor discussed your schedule of treatment there is NO daily maximum for chemo or radiation. There is a one million dollar lifetime maximum. If you have no course of action there are daily limits.

Robert said:
Doctor's Visits are on page 15 titled 'Preventative Plus Benefit Rider'. The benefit is 'first dollar coverage' which sounds good. However upon
reviewing this benefit it's only $500 PER YEAR PER FAMILY SPLIT UP BY IN THREE MONTH INTERVALS. $500 divided by four quarters is an
astonishing $125 per every THREE months. Or an astonishing $41.66 monthly. $125 per every three months that might pay for one doctor's visit.
On a personal note last year I had hand surgery. The hand specialist office visit fee was $220 per visit. With this limited benefit plan you would have
to save up six months of benefits to cover that one visit.

My findings:
This is not on page 15. There are three options of benefits for an individual and three options for family. The $500 Robert mentions is Option #1 for a family. Option #2 is $1000 and Option #3 is $2000.

I could go on and on. but with most of the negative posts on here they only list partial truths. There are some things that I would not like about the CareOne Plus package but there are things I would like to take advantage of. Just like anything else if you are going to praise something have your facts straight, if you are going to bash something you really need to have your facts straight. You will never find the perfect plan well unless you're on group health insurance (probably the only good thing about corporate America). To me this is like the Ford salesman bashing the Chevrolet salesman which gains you nothing.
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#128 Consumer Comment

garbage company

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I had this insurance this year for 5 months and I am a self employed physician. This company is a fraud. I saw 3 physicians for conditions that were minor but were not preexisting. Mega health and life denied all claims, because they didn't recieve information from one physician that I saw last year. I called their bluf and got the medical records myself and sent it to them and they still didn't pay. They had esi send me a release for to request medical records that I had already given to them a month previously. I made a complaint to the insurance commission and they have done nothing probably because it is run by lawyers and politicians were take campaign contributions from these companies to look the other way. If you want to know what the problem is with health care, look no further than lawyers and insurance conpanies. As a physician, I can tell you that my fees are constantly being cut. I feel badly for you. I never recieved one cent from this company and now I have to pay all the bills which believe it or not is a hardship since I have a autistic son that requires over $50,000 of therapy per year not reimbursed.
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#129 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Get off the fence-

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Benjiman, either you need to make the decision to leave Mega, or you need to stay there and keep selling that crap to your clients. But God almightily, get off the fence!

All it took for me to know that I HAD to leave was seeing the quoting software with Assurant health. At that time, they weren't even very strong players and they STILL beat the crap out of Mega in price and coverage. Higher commissions was just a cherry on top! Once I learned online sales, I was in heaven!

John sells differently than me and my agency team. We primarily sell online via internet and telemarketing leads. We use web-conferencing tools that allow our clients to see our computer screen and together we apply for coverage. No face-to-face sales ever! No checks, no wet signatures. Assurant's new Express underwriting approves them in seconds if their MIB comes back clean (that's right Mega agents, SECONDS).

Here's a typically process for us. Lead comes in - I call it and ask them to log into my website. I ask them a number of questions and accordingly, show them the plan that fits their needs the best. We fill out the online application, they take control of my computer and answer the verification questions - hit submit, wait a few seconds and BOOM- here are your printable ID cards. Feel free to go to the doctor this afternoon!!

I spent $10 on a lead and made $750.

I'm licensed in 17 states. I sell primarily in 4 right now. Believe it or not, I keep over 92% of by clients I sell. They stay with me into years 2 and 3. Why - well it's easy. I sell them good plans, I send them e-cards 2-3 times a year and I'm not afraid to talk to them when they have complaints. If they are sick at renewal time-then I wouldn't think of moving them. LUCKILY THEY HAVE GOOD COVERAGE and they are OK to spend an extra $70/mo. MEGA would have potentially BANKRUPTED them.

If drives me crazy how you Mega agents can justify placing someone in lower quality plans because your think their rate increases will be low at month 12.

Why don't you just say, "Mr. Client, would you like to save a few bucks 12 months from now at renewal, or potentially pay an extra $12,000 un-necessarily if you use your coverage this year?"


Get off the Fence Benjiman! Pick a side and jump!

Each time you become more enlightened by John and I, it will make it harder and harder to stay there. By the way, that email works. Keep it all together.
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#130 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What's the source?

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Benjamin, you have to ask yourself sometimes what's the source of the info. Are you getting educated by managers making an override off you and if so how many years did your managers spend in the insurance field before joining UGA?

But to answer your questions:

1) I market my website and generate my own leads. I'm 100% community based. Why in the world would I be driving a hour to meet with a client when a business owner 3 blocks away needs coverage? I only marketing to business owners with flyers - I pay people to distribute them to business owners. Over time I've taken my profits and placed them in local ads. Unfortunately, this is nothing that would work well with UGA (I tried it) since advertising has to be compliant - all their compliant ads are cheesy and no one's ever heard of Mega or NASE.

2) All of my clients get a monthly E-Newsletter and also a quarterly physical newletter I mail to them. That generates a lot of referrals. See if the senior agents in your office stay in very good touch with their clients. The answer? No - they're too busy generating new sales.

3) I'm at all community events.

4) It took me about 2 years to build my business to the point where I didn't have to market anymore and my phone simply rings. My name is simply known in the community as the place to get health insurance. Doesn't take much - just $15K a week in AV gets me $3,750. Are agents in your office who have been there over 2 years still marketing? Why - where are all their referrals? Do they stay in touch with all of their clients throughout the year? If not, that's the reason for hardly any referrals.

5) Regarding pre-ex conditions I believe your question is what happens to people if they get sick while on the policy and over time cannot afford the rate increases. This is a problem with health insurance in general. Mega rate increases like all the other companies. Ask your manager to show you some renewal notices - trust me, he has them. He won't want to show them to you, but he has them. The bottom line is over the years if someone gets sick and can no longer afford the premium I can write them a guaranteed issue group of one with my Blue Cross. Solves that problem.

Question: What happens to your clients if they get sick and can no longer afford the premiums?
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#131 UPDATE Employee

E&O

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

John,

Do you carry E&O coverage for your business?

I have been doing some research on the information you have listed for this last year. Watched PBS, questioned my sales manager. Reread the policy I prefer to offer as coverage. I have asked for the service of benefits or coverage to make sure I tell my clients on what we can do for them. The TDI is so overwhelming that it will take some time to research completely.

You apparently are very good at what you do. How do you market your business? How long did it take for you to build your business? Did you go after the clients you had with Mega or did try for a new audience? Unless I thought I had a better plan for my clients I would never ask them to sign a new policy with another company. Apparently there are some risks involved going as an independent. I have asked and received information from some of the companies you had mentioned. Do I have to leave my current job and lose what I started to read the differences in what each company offers?

This is my 6th job in 30 years. I had my own license when I started with UGA. At our office some people do and some do not have their license when they start. Everybody there wants to make a new start and create a business that will take care of their future. It took UGA over a year and a half before they noticed my resume on one of the job listings. Most of the people I work with seem intelligent. They also seemed concerned on helping people just as I do.

UGA offered more money than what I made selling Life insurance and I thought I was helping people who needed health coverage. And once again my managers have answered every question I have asked, and for all I know at this point have never lied to me. This means I respect the people I work with, but that does not mean I am not willing to find a better way to help my clients.

Like you mentioned in your business some plans cover what another does not offer. What happens when a pre existing condition comes into play? You can't switch them if that happens then they are stuck with an illness that won't be covered. It seems that no matter what you offer your customer that you are always playing the odds that what is not covered or restricted will never happen to your clients.

The money you mentioned seems very nice. But I doubt most people have what it really takes to do what you and Brian have done with your business. I wished I knew how to contact you one on one. I have tried Brian's method and did not seem to work. Reread my last message and maybe you can figure out how to contact me.

One last thing, if I did leave mega I doubt that I would ever bash their company. It is what it is and nothing more. I will leave the bashing to upset clients and not as an ex agent. Because I have done my share of bashing in the past and what comes around goes around. Besides it is unprofessional, but if you didn't do what you are doing then I wouldn't be questioning where I am at today. I guess what I am saying is to each his own.

Once again thank you for making me search for the answers to my own questions, because if there was never a difference of opinion then nothing would ever improve.
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Brian, you're UGA's worst nightmare

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

....because you're highly intelligent and always asking questions. Here's some points to ponder and you can give me your feedback:

1) Because I'm independent I can compare the rates of the six companies I work for and truly find the best rate for my client. And is the sale easier or harder when I sit down with my client's and show them all the rates/plans available? Solves the "we need to think about it" or "we need to research this." Also nice to be there with companies people have heard of and had before; Aetna, United Healthcare, Blue Cross, Time Insurance, etc.

2) All companies have drastically different underwriting. For example, Aetna takes type II diabetics. Golden Rule doesn't rate increase for high blood pressure or high cholesterol. Assurant health doesn't exclude conditions like asthma or allergies. Because of that I can place my clients with the carrier who will give them the best underwriting decision. I still get a bad decision? I have 5 more carriers to pay with.

3) If my client wants maternity, I have companies that offer a fantastic benefit with no limits.

4) I don't have a "sales" presentation. Because I'm independent I can sit down, explain my client's options and simply have them choose.

5) I can email all of my clients the brochures and rates. Makes is FAR easier to set an appointment when they can see all the details. My clients can also run rates and see plans on my website. That gets me the "stand-offish" clients who really want to see everything upfront.

6) I can sign clients up online. Not everyone wants to meet in person - nor does everyone have the time.

7) My commissions are 25% full year advance with 6% renewals. You can ask your manager what your commission structure is. It's also not confusing - every company pays a flat commission purely based on the AV - sign up someone for $386 per month? That's $386 X 12 = $4,632 X 25% commish = $1,158. Now, ask you manager exactly - to the dollar, what you'd be paid on a $386 monthly premium. Answer? He has no clue because it depends on too many factors; the plan, riders, ancillary, etc...

8) All companies rate-increase and over time you'll need to lower their rate. I can move my clients to another company to lower their rate or get them a new plan with the same company. Can you do that? If not, you'll lose 90% of your clients after 4 years. Again, fine someone in your office who's been there 4 years and ask to see their current clients from 2003. I have 90% of them.

9) Like what I say to people on the phone to set an an appointment: "I'm fully independent and represent all the major medical carriers. I'll sit down with you, go over all of your options and find a plan that fits your needs and budget."

10) If I meet with someone and they still want to think about it - fine. I don't need a hard close. They can call me back up on a day or two and I can do the app online. No need to drive back there so no pressure needed.

11) All companies have had their complaints - all of them. Nationally Mega has the highest complaint ratio. Go to the NAIC site - national assocation of insurance commissioners - and you can run complaint ratio searches. Run Mega along with Time, Unicare, World, Aetna, Golden Rule, etc...and you'll see that Mega's national numbers are 3 to 4 times higher than anyone else. You can also run detailed complaint reports and see that Mega also denies more claims then the other carriers.

12) At 25% commissions, being able to respresent all the carriers, being able to sit down with clients but also sign up online a bad week for me is around $4,000 - which represents around 25 hours a week. My renewals are over six figures which ads over 2,000 a week to that number. There are independent agents who make far more than that, but I'm very focused on my family and spending time with them. I win trips constantly with the carriers I represent and insane bonuses.

My last bonus? It was an extra 7% per application over a three month period of time. My bonus before that? An extra $250 per application. Those bonuses destroy anything you'd get with REAP with is a piddly 1% or 2% extra depending on 20 different factors. Right now Aetna pays me $100 per app bonus. It takes years for dental/vision and NASE bonuses to be worth anything - and that's only if you're kicking out a lot of production.

There are a lot of mouths to feed when you write a deal. Your district manager gets a cut as does your division and regional manager. Then UGA as a marketing outfit has to make a profit, then Mega needs to stay alive and BlackStone needs their return on investment. No one is between me on the companies I represent.

Marketing? I have become known in my community as an independent health insurance agent and my phone simply rings from referrals. Go find someone in your office who's been at this a few years. Is his phone ringing all day or does he still have to market like mad? Where's all his referrals at?
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AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

Brian,

I have read several of your response's and I would like to say that I am impressed. 2 There has also been an email sent that I hope you will receive. 1 Maybe ripoff will let this one go through..

I have not seen any other policy other than the one I offer therfor I can not say that you have the best plan for myself our my customers. 4 I have signed several BCBS, Unicare, etc customers over because they are unhappy with their coverage. 7 Their plans have doubled and tripled in less than one year?

I apreciate the help you are trying to offer. 0 By the way Office 2007 Sux. 7 If you need help spelling do not choose this over priced office 2007 program. 4 Talk about a crook Bill Gates. 1 That is another forum were honest programers are SCREWED by big brother because Mr. 8 Windows pays a lot of money to protect their piraticy.

Assurante has contacted me about their options. 4 I would still like to talk to either John or yourself and debate what Mega has to offer compared to what you are doing now. I do not jump form job to job. I take my job seriously. I do not feel that I have lied to my customers or that my managers have lied to me.

My email is a temp email an hopefully ripoffreport.com will let it go through. If they really care for the benefit of our customers then maybe we can come to terms and let my email post!

BTW I know that my office is monitoring my actions that is why I left my intials in my last post.

Let this be said. There are insurance agents that care what their customers have purchased for their family. I believe in everything I have told and offerd my clients. I will study the health laws daily and offer the best health plans I am able to offer at that time. I do sell for Mega and I belive in their plans.
Brian & John only. Once again

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#134 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You can Contact Me.....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

You can email me at health agents direct at yahoo. com
But don't put any spaces in the address. It should work.

I'll give you every piece of information you want. Or John - emial me and I will send you Benjiman's phone number.

I left Mega as a CONSUMER and an EMPLOYEE almost 2 years ago. Since then, I have produced a very successful group of agents with me in my own National Online Sales Agency.

Additionally, I have a health insurance policy on my family of 5 that cost me $278.10/mo. It's with Blue Cross Blue Shield. Its called the Flexible Blue Plan 1500.

$1500 max/indv and $3000 Max/family for the WHOLE YEAR! 100% day one coverage for preventative services. It's HSA compatible and I already have $5000 sitting in my account - which pays my dedictubles for the next 2-3 years if I needed it. So I have a 100% plan now - that's building in interest year after year.

I was on a Health Choice Plan with Mega. I calculated the potential worse case scneario in a year was about $87,000 for my family. Cost per month was just under $400.

My point - AS A CONSUMER - I have found the best plan in my state. As an EX-EMPLYOEE, I can now sell this plan to myself and others.

Are you doing this in your state? Can you? Will you? If I offer coverage outside of what I myself believe to be the best, am I doing what's right from my client? Or me?

Can you make it this business always doing what is best for you? Sure, Mega agents survive everyday. I personally couldn't do it. Maybe you can.

So, in your pursuit to find the right company, ask yourseld this: " Am I considering my clients needs - or mine?

If you can get a tremendously better plan for less money FOR YOURSELF, would you buy it and sell it others? Or would you buy and sell Mega instead even though you have the knowledge that thier is better coverage and prices?

You are self-employed, so WHAT ARE YOU BUYING FOR YOURSELF? If you are questioning Mega's coverage for yourself AS A CONSUMER and you find something better - what does that mean?

Maybe its only better for the next 24 months - then somthing else becomes better with a different carrier.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU?

The problem is Mega agents love to justify reasons why they don't sell better plans as independent 1099's contracted licesend agents in thier state. The do NOT HAVE TO SELL MEGA to make great money. So why do they?

WHO CARES if my client complains about thier coverage with Golden Rule - I will put them into another plan that they like. THAT's MY DUTY as thier agent. I'm continaully looking out for thier needs and I make great money doing it.

If they don't care for Mega anymore, what are you going to do for them????? If you stay- then please give them to me!

I will give you, or anyone reading this at Mega $100 cash for every client they have that wants to leave to a better plan. heck - you're gonna lose them, so why not make a least some money off of it?
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let the ink dry on your insurance license

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

John,

What I would like to happen is to be able to talk to you one on one. If you can figure out on how to make this happen then I will be glad to give you my undivided attention. I figure that a good debate from each side would help me in my decision on where my career will be heading in the next year. You can call me Jane the ignorant s**t if you want (SNL).

Just so you know I happen to like and respect the people, managers from where I am employed. I did read my contract and understand it completely. I have no reason to believe that my division or district manager has ever lied to me. Our division also has several agents that have been employed with the company for many years. Some of them are top agents. Some have left the company only to come back. Some of the leading agents have worked for other companies. Not just Mega.

Most of everything I have read in this forum; my managers have informed me of the above mentioned limitations. I found the back balance of what I owe in my account. I changed my advances to zero % commissions until I am sure of what I want to do. I have received my first stock statement. For personal reasons I have not done extremely well in my quick start class, but good enough to stay in good status. Time is very hard to purchase. However I have noticed that I am a 50% + closer or order taker. Every person I am sent out with to train closes their deal. Every policy I have written except one has been accepted.

I have always made it a point not to bad mouth any other company by name until I came across this web site. This was something I was taught to never do by another company I had worked with, and recently I have forgotten my principles when it came to proving my point on this website, and it made me weak; so I am stopping this practice as of right now.

My agency does not tell their prospective clients that we are the only company that will pay on and off the job. We do not explain the death spiral. My office is never at the top but we believe in what we are doing. I checked with the Texas TDI. I believe I noticed our complaint score was well below almost every other company listed.

As for new employees every month; there will always be a lot of new people every month, but I have never worked at an Insurance company that didn't have a lot of new employees every month. Most Insurance companies will pay anybody around $1000 who can get a warm body to join the company. Auto, home, life, etc It didn't matter as long as the line stayed full of potential employees. Several of these companies are well known names that you have your auto or home insured through.

I also searched every company you listed. There are many complaints about these companies as well. So I am confused on who is really the bad guy. John just so you know I did request information for new agents on all of the companies you have listed. I am curious on what they have to offer compared to my home office.

In closing I can tell you that I do not like every part of my company's (Mega's) coverage. However it is what it is and every Insurance policy has its strong points and its weak points. I wish my plan covered everything. But it doesn't. I do not understand on how to become an independent agent, and from I have read from these forums it makes independents look like crooks. The insurance company that insures my home and car's make me feel like they are crooks. I could continue with this post and forum but I believe that I have found what I was looking for and I need to hit the books. If you (John) can tell me on how to reach you then our story ends today.

Good Luck on your plan what ever it may be.

TWM
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#136 UPDATE Employee

let the ink dry on your insurance license

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

I have read in this forum that the UGA employment ads deceive people into believing they can make $150k to $400k a year. This is possible if you work hard. The people making these comments forget about bonuses, and UGA pays several types of bonuses. After a couple of years you will receive overrides and when you add that to your continued sales it is very possible to make that kind of money.

You can make that kind of money in any profession if you use your brain and hard work. Too many people in today's society expect something for nothing. I meet about one out of a hundred people that actually understand what hard work is. In most of the people I have met many have never heard the concept work smarter not harder. However, I have heard a lot of people say they owe me; they told me, etc Why don't you show me then maybe you will get what you thought you were owed. I personally know people in my own family that think they are owed something because These people are so into them selves that they are clueless, and are unaware what they are doing to the people they think owe them something and they may not make it anywhere.

Second thing I noticed about this forum is all of the complaints about the interview process. I am old enough and have employed enough people in my lifetime that I did not find anything wrong with UGA's hiring process. Someone mentioned that they interviewed with AFLAC and it took several weeks to apply for their sales position. Out of all the Insurance Sales positions I have interviewed with were all the same cattle call process before I started with UGA except for one company. That company took three months before they hired me. However, I had to list 200 of my family and friends to get my business started. Except for the friends and family stuff this company was very stiff collared, old money. They mentioned to me that there is no neon sign outside of the building advertising their business. In other words stop crying about leads, and get off your rear and get your business growing. That was two years ago. I wanted to see what else was out there as far as the insurance business goes. I knew that everybody needs health before they would ever purchase life insurance. So after several interviews I went with UGA. I was offered the job at every company I interviewed with. I choose UGA.

John, I am in my second year as a General Lines Agent. I had planed to get my series 7 but I wanted to test the waters before I decided on the direction of my future. Which means most of the ink has dried, but not completely. I have never burned any bridges and I have preformed well enough I can go back to any of the companies I researched, applied or have worked. I do believe Michael Moore's Movie will have a lot of people researching health coverage. I do not believe that our government is ready to stop receiving payments for a corrupt health care system to ever care to fix it. It's just like College football, too much $$$ to have a real playoff system and a real champion. Corruption!!

I will look at the information you have stated. If this forum did anything it has made me want to renew my vows of discovering about Insurance. Educating myself about the cost, coverage, plans, companies, coverage's, etc I do not believe that I am trying to educate anybody about Insurance. I do explain what I do know what my company covers in health coverage. I will agree there are some limits, prescriptions, deductibles; which I am currently breaking down the cost of our deductible with what is covered and for how long before you have to pay another deductible.

I will promise you this I will review with a fine tooth comb about what my company policy covers. As well as the other companies you have mentioned. It would be foolish of me to jump on board by reading why somebody is unhappy with their coverage. Just so you know I have customers leave the other mentioned companies (Assurant Health, United Healthcare, World, Unicare, BCBS) and purchase plans with me because of limitations, penalties, etc

Just for kicks type in the name Unicare in MS word and run a Thesaurus. I guess whoever named that company did not think about it very much. This is funny.

One last comment; is this forum about customer complaints or disgruntled ex employees, or a sales pitch to become an independent agent. If I am accused educating people about insurance before I know what I am doing them why would I want to represent several companies when I am accused of being blinded by one.
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please let the ink dry on your insurance license before you proceed to educate the masses about how health insurance works

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Benjamin, please let the ink dry on your insurance license before you proceed to educate the masses about how health insurance works.

You stated that your medication went from $60 a week to $300 a week? How would one of your clients feel if they got diagnosed with something and they have a $1,500 annual cap on medication. And your clients don't mind the deductible needing to be met three times a year? Wow...mine did. You must be some sales rep.

You seem to be in Texas? Check out Assurant Health, United Healthcare, World and Unicare. All of them have policies with no caps on medication, all of them pay commissions far better than UGA. You can represent better companies and make more money. Don't rack your brain thinking about it - instead, keep listening to managers who are making overrides off you and had zero insurance training before they got into UGA. Someone making money off you would NEVER tell you anything wrong...right? Lol.

I don't make a cent if you stay or if you go.
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UGA Training

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

After reading for the last two days on this website I have noticed that the average UGA/Cornerstone/Mega employee will receive 3 days of training with UGA then sent out on to the streets. Even if I said that it was 5 days what difference would that make. After the training with UGA you go on appointments with a senior leader of your group. You have weekly meetings and then the option to retrain on any week of the month.

I can promise you that some of the biggest names in the life insurance companies will not give as much attention. Let's look at the Amerprise Life Insurance Company for example. Every horror story I have read does not touch the throw them to the wall and see if they stick method you receive from that company. Talk about interviews.

How about interviewing with 30 + people in the same room then asked to take a computer math test to see if you can add 300 + 50. Then being told you are hired but you have 48 hours to make a decision. Not to mention the $2500 start up fees to get started. BTW I have several friends who have been successful with this company after several years of hard work.

I know that the training with UGA may not be a degree with MIT however it is as good as with any Major Life insurance company training as a CFP. (Somebody who gets 5 days of training then tells people how to plan for their future: give me a break) Let's look at the Auto & Home insurance business.

If you have 10k you can have your own Insurance Company in a Shopping Strip at the local intersection. And you have a very high risk of losing your job and money to another rep or 24 year grad (that interviewed you in the first place) that tells you that all they want to know is if you can sell insurance. I don't know maybe let's say State Farm, or All State. Don't worry I have several friends who work for these companies.

It has become entertaining visiting with my friends to see who the most successful person is for that year.

Lets face it Insurance is rip off. The United States, Hilary Clinton, etc, I never noticed anyone stating on this web site that the insurance business was the only company to show a profit during the great depression. Maybe because they never pay what the consumer thought they would pay.

One of my son's favorite movies is The Incredible's. I like the part where the dad (Bob) has to work for an insurance company. One scene is very funny in this movie. Bob works for an insurance company and reports to a boss who screams at him because he wants to cover his client's claims. Bob wants to look out for the client and the boss yells who is looking out for our stockholders. Everybody in the movie theater laughed because they knew that this scene was very true and that the insurance will never be what you would hope it would be. Why? Because every body knows that in America Insurance is going to do what ever they can not to pay your claim.

I work for a company that pays exactly what it says in the brochure you show each and every client. I am still learning. However, I have never had anybody prove me wrong. Mega is not perfect. It is what it is. No insurance is perfect. Search the web for any other carrier and just like this website you will find more complaints than you could ever read.

One last note I have tried to leave my name and number so anybody could reach me. However this site insists on protecting my identity.
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I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

I am with UGA, and Mega Life & Health.

I have interviewed with several Life & health companies over the past two years. I will not name any of the names of these companies in this response. I decided to go with UGA because I studied their products and costs. I liked the plans of what they offered and the amount of the payments to the agents for closing a sell. And yes I do know about the advances, and about writing bad polices and the costs of the 12% demon. I usually make 2 or 3 appointments with each client: Including the final reading of the policy with them at their home. My contracts and/or Health & Life Policies are not for everyone. We (clients and myself) cover every part of the plan I have designed for them.

Just for the record I can not even cover my own wife or son with Mega. (Bi-Polar & Asthma)

However, after all of the recent publicity I decided to do my own research. It scared the hell out of me. I am not a million $$ producer. I get by with the effort I put into my business. I wanted to know more about insurance, and what each state that I am insured covers. From what I am reading I have seen negative and positive responses from many states. I have noticed that nobody talks about the specific plans (or the names of the plans) they are complaining about. Just for kicks I decided to look up several of the complaints about the automobile vehicles we currently own. I could spend all weekend reading complaints about every post just like I did this one. UGA & Mega are my bread & butter so I needed to research as much as I can about how I am being paid.

Most of my clients are highly educated. (I only wished I had thought of some of their plans of income before they did). However, they pay most of their health expenses out of their own pocket, and always have done so. They did so before I came to their home and wanted to do so after I left their home. (Just like I had to pay for my own roof, and auto accidents that would have caused my rates to increase or be canceled.) (Health Insurance with return of premiums who would have thought it could be true). Most people would rather pay for nice cars, cable TV, and $300 mobile phone bills than pay for health coverage for their own families including their coverage for their own children. I know this to be true because I was one of those people.

Instead of paying for Life insurance we needed to have the family entertained. I always thought that Health Insurance was a $20 co-pay and a $15 prescription. Man was I wrong! With Major Texas Group Medical coverage I paid thousands (7,000 in network PHCS) for an in-network day surgery that I had several years ago. Today I pay with Great-West Healthcare. (I know I said that I would not name names, but I couldn't help it on this one. Sorry) Texas group health coverage $60 per prescription. My prescriptions went from $60 per week to $300 per week for the same medicine we have had for the last 5+ years. Why should Health coverage be so expensive? I agree Health Insurance in the United States is a rip off. Nobody wins. Except the people we place in public office.

What I have learned is that my father was in the hospital for over 5 weeks. We hardly met with each other until he became ill. He is 69 and I am 45. He was going to purchase the NASE premium plan that pays $200 per day for 180 days when I started with UGA. We where always saying that we need to get together, but never did. Now you can't take us apart. But if he had signed up with the Nase plan he would have had over $7000 to help with the deductible, and the oxygen mask he now has to wear, (his group plan only covers 30 days then he has to pay the full amount $400 per month on TEXAS GROUP HEALTH COVERAGE).

In closing there is no right or wrong it is only a perception. After I have read this web blog or what every it is called; I went over all of my plans with Mega and studied each coverage. On my own!!! I still believe that it (MEGA Care One Plus with Riders) is a good coverage plan. I am honest with my customers with what they can expect. At some point in my carrier I might become an independent agent. But I will continue to sell what I know what Health coverage is, and make sure I am making the right decision before I move on to the next customer or company. I know that I would rather be able to sleep at night knowing that I did the right thing instead of paying for Lunista (its a sleep aid). The new plans with Mega in Texas are better than they used to be. This website caused a whole lot of panic on my part but after reading and studying I still believe that UGA is the place where I need to be today.

Ken, Mark, etc go ahead and shoot holes through my confession, and statement. Here is something you have not done.

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I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

I am with UGA, and Mega Life & Health.

I have interviewed with several Life & health companies over the past two years. I will not name any of the names of these companies in this response. I decided to go with UGA because I studied their products and costs. I liked the plans of what they offered and the amount of the payments to the agents for closing a sell. And yes I do know about the advances, and about writing bad polices and the costs of the 12% demon. I usually make 2 or 3 appointments with each client: Including the final reading of the policy with them at their home. My contracts and/or Health & Life Policies are not for everyone. We (clients and myself) cover every part of the plan I have designed for them.

Just for the record I can not even cover my own wife or son with Mega. (Bi-Polar & Asthma)

However, after all of the recent publicity I decided to do my own research. It scared the hell out of me. I am not a million $$ producer. I get by with the effort I put into my business. I wanted to know more about insurance, and what each state that I am insured covers. From what I am reading I have seen negative and positive responses from many states. I have noticed that nobody talks about the specific plans (or the names of the plans) they are complaining about. Just for kicks I decided to look up several of the complaints about the automobile vehicles we currently own. I could spend all weekend reading complaints about every post just like I did this one. UGA & Mega are my bread & butter so I needed to research as much as I can about how I am being paid.

Most of my clients are highly educated. (I only wished I had thought of some of their plans of income before they did). However, they pay most of their health expenses out of their own pocket, and always have done so. They did so before I came to their home and wanted to do so after I left their home. (Just like I had to pay for my own roof, and auto accidents that would have caused my rates to increase or be canceled.) (Health Insurance with return of premiums who would have thought it could be true). Most people would rather pay for nice cars, cable TV, and $300 mobile phone bills than pay for health coverage for their own families including their coverage for their own children. I know this to be true because I was one of those people.

Instead of paying for Life insurance we needed to have the family entertained. I always thought that Health Insurance was a $20 co-pay and a $15 prescription. Man was I wrong! With Major Texas Group Medical coverage I paid thousands (7,000 in network PHCS) for an in-network day surgery that I had several years ago. Today I pay with Great-West Healthcare. (I know I said that I would not name names, but I couldn't help it on this one. Sorry) Texas group health coverage $60 per prescription. My prescriptions went from $60 per week to $300 per week for the same medicine we have had for the last 5+ years. Why should Health coverage be so expensive? I agree Health Insurance in the United States is a rip off. Nobody wins. Except the people we place in public office.

What I have learned is that my father was in the hospital for over 5 weeks. We hardly met with each other until he became ill. He is 69 and I am 45. He was going to purchase the NASE premium plan that pays $200 per day for 180 days when I started with UGA. We where always saying that we need to get together, but never did. Now you can't take us apart. But if he had signed up with the Nase plan he would have had over $7000 to help with the deductible, and the oxygen mask he now has to wear, (his group plan only covers 30 days then he has to pay the full amount $400 per month on TEXAS GROUP HEALTH COVERAGE).

In closing there is no right or wrong it is only a perception. After I have read this web blog or what every it is called; I went over all of my plans with Mega and studied each coverage. On my own!!! I still believe that it (MEGA Care One Plus with Riders) is a good coverage plan. I am honest with my customers with what they can expect. At some point in my carrier I might become an independent agent. But I will continue to sell what I know what Health coverage is, and make sure I am making the right decision before I move on to the next customer or company. I know that I would rather be able to sleep at night knowing that I did the right thing instead of paying for Lunista (its a sleep aid). The new plans with Mega in Texas are better than they used to be. This website caused a whole lot of panic on my part but after reading and studying I still believe that UGA is the place where I need to be today.

Ken, Mark, etc go ahead and shoot holes through my confession, and statement. Here is something you have not done.

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I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

I am with UGA, and Mega Life & Health.

I have interviewed with several Life & health companies over the past two years. I will not name any of the names of these companies in this response. I decided to go with UGA because I studied their products and costs. I liked the plans of what they offered and the amount of the payments to the agents for closing a sell. And yes I do know about the advances, and about writing bad polices and the costs of the 12% demon. I usually make 2 or 3 appointments with each client: Including the final reading of the policy with them at their home. My contracts and/or Health & Life Policies are not for everyone. We (clients and myself) cover every part of the plan I have designed for them.

Just for the record I can not even cover my own wife or son with Mega. (Bi-Polar & Asthma)

However, after all of the recent publicity I decided to do my own research. It scared the hell out of me. I am not a million $$ producer. I get by with the effort I put into my business. I wanted to know more about insurance, and what each state that I am insured covers. From what I am reading I have seen negative and positive responses from many states. I have noticed that nobody talks about the specific plans (or the names of the plans) they are complaining about. Just for kicks I decided to look up several of the complaints about the automobile vehicles we currently own. I could spend all weekend reading complaints about every post just like I did this one. UGA & Mega are my bread & butter so I needed to research as much as I can about how I am being paid.

Most of my clients are highly educated. (I only wished I had thought of some of their plans of income before they did). However, they pay most of their health expenses out of their own pocket, and always have done so. They did so before I came to their home and wanted to do so after I left their home. (Just like I had to pay for my own roof, and auto accidents that would have caused my rates to increase or be canceled.) (Health Insurance with return of premiums who would have thought it could be true). Most people would rather pay for nice cars, cable TV, and $300 mobile phone bills than pay for health coverage for their own families including their coverage for their own children. I know this to be true because I was one of those people.

Instead of paying for Life insurance we needed to have the family entertained. I always thought that Health Insurance was a $20 co-pay and a $15 prescription. Man was I wrong! With Major Texas Group Medical coverage I paid thousands (7,000 in network PHCS) for an in-network day surgery that I had several years ago. Today I pay with Great-West Healthcare. (I know I said that I would not name names, but I couldn't help it on this one. Sorry) Texas group health coverage $60 per prescription. My prescriptions went from $60 per week to $300 per week for the same medicine we have had for the last 5+ years. Why should Health coverage be so expensive? I agree Health Insurance in the United States is a rip off. Nobody wins. Except the people we place in public office.

What I have learned is that my father was in the hospital for over 5 weeks. We hardly met with each other until he became ill. He is 69 and I am 45. He was going to purchase the NASE premium plan that pays $200 per day for 180 days when I started with UGA. We where always saying that we need to get together, but never did. Now you can't take us apart. But if he had signed up with the Nase plan he would have had over $7000 to help with the deductible, and the oxygen mask he now has to wear, (his group plan only covers 30 days then he has to pay the full amount $400 per month on TEXAS GROUP HEALTH COVERAGE).

In closing there is no right or wrong it is only a perception. After I have read this web blog or what every it is called; I went over all of my plans with Mega and studied each coverage. On my own!!! I still believe that it (MEGA Care One Plus with Riders) is a good coverage plan. I am honest with my customers with what they can expect. At some point in my carrier I might become an independent agent. But I will continue to sell what I know what Health coverage is, and make sure I am making the right decision before I move on to the next customer or company. I know that I would rather be able to sleep at night knowing that I did the right thing instead of paying for Lunista (its a sleep aid). The new plans with Mega in Texas are better than they used to be. This website caused a whole lot of panic on my part but after reading and studying I still believe that UGA is the place where I need to be today.

Ken, Mark, etc go ahead and shoot holes through my confession, and statement. Here is something you have not done.

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I agree with Marie 09/27/2006 02:08:05 am

AUTHOR: Benjamin - (U.S.A.)

I am with UGA, and Mega Life & Health.

I have interviewed with several Life & health companies over the past two years. I will not name any of the names of these companies in this response. I decided to go with UGA because I studied their products and costs. I liked the plans of what they offered and the amount of the payments to the agents for closing a sell. And yes I do know about the advances, and about writing bad polices and the costs of the 12% demon. I usually make 2 or 3 appointments with each client: Including the final reading of the policy with them at their home. My contracts and/or Health & Life Policies are not for everyone. We (clients and myself) cover every part of the plan I have designed for them.

Just for the record I can not even cover my own wife or son with Mega. (Bi-Polar & Asthma)

However, after all of the recent publicity I decided to do my own research. It scared the hell out of me. I am not a million $$ producer. I get by with the effort I put into my business. I wanted to know more about insurance, and what each state that I am insured covers. From what I am reading I have seen negative and positive responses from many states. I have noticed that nobody talks about the specific plans (or the names of the plans) they are complaining about. Just for kicks I decided to look up several of the complaints about the automobile vehicles we currently own. I could spend all weekend reading complaints about every post just like I did this one. UGA & Mega are my bread & butter so I needed to research as much as I can about how I am being paid.

Most of my clients are highly educated. (I only wished I had thought of some of their plans of income before they did). However, they pay most of their health expenses out of their own pocket, and always have done so. They did so before I came to their home and wanted to do so after I left their home. (Just like I had to pay for my own roof, and auto accidents that would have caused my rates to increase or be canceled.) (Health Insurance with return of premiums who would have thought it could be true). Most people would rather pay for nice cars, cable TV, and $300 mobile phone bills than pay for health coverage for their own families including their coverage for their own children. I know this to be true because I was one of those people.

Instead of paying for Life insurance we needed to have the family entertained. I always thought that Health Insurance was a $20 co-pay and a $15 prescription. Man was I wrong! With Major Texas Group Medical coverage I paid thousands (7,000 in network PHCS) for an in-network day surgery that I had several years ago. Today I pay with Great-West Healthcare. (I know I said that I would not name names, but I couldn't help it on this one. Sorry) Texas group health coverage $60 per prescription. My prescriptions went from $60 per week to $300 per week for the same medicine we have had for the last 5+ years. Why should Health coverage be so expensive? I agree Health Insurance in the United States is a rip off. Nobody wins. Except the people we place in public office.

What I have learned is that my father was in the hospital for over 5 weeks. We hardly met with each other until he became ill. He is 69 and I am 45. He was going to purchase the NASE premium plan that pays $200 per day for 180 days when I started with UGA. We where always saying that we need to get together, but never did. Now you can't take us apart. But if he had signed up with the Nase plan he would have had over $7000 to help with the deductible, and the oxygen mask he now has to wear, (his group plan only covers 30 days then he has to pay the full amount $400 per month on TEXAS GROUP HEALTH COVERAGE).

In closing there is no right or wrong it is only a perception. After I have read this web blog or what every it is called; I went over all of my plans with Mega and studied each coverage. On my own!!! I still believe that it (MEGA Care One Plus with Riders) is a good coverage plan. I am honest with my customers with what they can expect. At some point in my carrier I might become an independent agent. But I will continue to sell what I know what Health coverage is, and make sure I am making the right decision before I move on to the next customer or company. I know that I would rather be able to sleep at night knowing that I did the right thing instead of paying for Lunista (its a sleep aid). The new plans with Mega in Texas are better than they used to be. This website caused a whole lot of panic on my part but after reading and studying I still believe that UGA is the place where I need to be today.

Ken, Mark, etc go ahead and shoot holes through my confession, and statement. Here is something you have not done.

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Not even close!

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

4 sales for $135,000 1st year? LOL!!!

First of all, the average volume per sale is about $3,000 so 4 sales per week would be $12,000. Out of that you'd get a check for around $1,000 since they only advance about 6 months. Even with REAP and other bonuses it's nowhere close to $135,000 in your pocket. What you will have is a debt account at 12% APR that will take 3 to 4 years to clear - meaning you'll have to pay your bills off that 6 months advance for years.

That's also saying that your taken rate is 80% or higher. If it's lower you'll get less of an advance.

Secondly, $12,000 a week is just over $600,000 written for the year. So what you want to ask your manager is how many people will you be meeting in that office who submitted $600,000 last year.

I already know the answer.
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#144 Consumer Comment

Almost.....

AUTHOR: Rob - (U.S.A.)

I just got done not more than an hour ago meeting with a divisional sales leader with UGA/Mega/NASE.....
I too was interviewed with another person, this however didn't surprise me as, in my current profession, this happens all the time. It's actually kinda nice to be the one interviewing the company you're considering rather than the other way around.
Something did sound too good to be true to me. He quoted me that I'd be making, with 4 sales per week, $135+K in the first year. I have a state license in another profession and I...something just didn't seem right. I'm an experienced salesperson.
He was vague on the phone, I thought I would be selling memberships to a small business association. I did some research and learned that UGA is actually owned by Mega..I believe. This practice has been investigated and I also believe is prohibited in some states. However, not being experienced in this field, I could be mistaken.
I called him back on the way home and asked about the residual commissions on policies sold. He was vague about that too but gave a reason that made sense to me.
I was a bit excited about the potential until I read this. lol....
I'm bright enough to know that not all people will make it in the commission sales field and may feel disappointed and therefore self defensive of their failure thereby creating issues where none exist but in the mind. But there are a lot of minds here. Too many to ignore I'm afraid...
Thanks to all who've posted.
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#145 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I too was scammed by my division manager about Mega's products!

First of all is the deductible. With the BC/BS plans I sold, you had a choice of $0 - 1000 for Indemnity, PPO and HMO plans and $1200 - 3500 for HSA PPO plans; all had ANNUAL deductibles. Most other companies also have ANNUAL deductibles, not 'per period of confinement' which could be several times per year with Mega!

A question for you: When was the last time you went to a group interview and were hired on the spot? I bet never. Your division manager does it because he has a fast-moving revolving door of people that are hired and soon leave after they find out about the junk policies they sell! Just look and Monster.com and see how many ads there are for 'A Salespersons Dream.' I'll bet that you'll find a lot of them.

Just get out Jeremy before you OWE too much to your DM. (They charge you 12% interest on the 'loans' they gave you [they call them advances, btw.]).
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Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I too was scammed by my division manager about Mega's products!

First of all is the deductible. With the BC/BS plans I sold, you had a choice of $0 - 1000 for Indemnity, PPO and HMO plans and $1200 - 3500 for HSA PPO plans; all had ANNUAL deductibles. Most other companies also have ANNUAL deductibles, not 'per period of confinement' which could be several times per year with Mega!

A question for you: When was the last time you went to a group interview and were hired on the spot? I bet never. Your division manager does it because he has a fast-moving revolving door of people that are hired and soon leave after they find out about the junk policies they sell! Just look and Monster.com and see how many ads there are for 'A Salespersons Dream.' I'll bet that you'll find a lot of them.

Just get out Jeremy before you OWE too much to your DM. (They charge you 12% interest on the 'loans' they gave you [they call them advances, btw.]).
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Jeremy ... get out as soon as you can!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I too was scammed by my division manager about Mega's products!

First of all is the deductible. With the BC/BS plans I sold, you had a choice of $0 - 1000 for Indemnity, PPO and HMO plans and $1200 - 3500 for HSA PPO plans; all had ANNUAL deductibles. Most other companies also have ANNUAL deductibles, not 'per period of confinement' which could be several times per year with Mega!

A question for you: When was the last time you went to a group interview and were hired on the spot? I bet never. Your division manager does it because he has a fast-moving revolving door of people that are hired and soon leave after they find out about the junk policies they sell! Just look and Monster.com and see how many ads there are for 'A Salespersons Dream.' I'll bet that you'll find a lot of them.

Just get out Jeremy before you OWE too much to your DM. (They charge you 12% interest on the 'loans' they gave you [they call them advances, btw.]).
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AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I recently was appointed with MEGA and the NASE... I've read every comment made on this post, and I'm definitely starting to regret spending the gas to go to the weekly sales meetings 48 miles away.

I'm brand new to the insurance industry, and an honest and considerate salesperson (not to mention GOOD). I was a telemarketer for over a year, and I was d**n good at it, but I simply wasn't making the pay I deserved, and started searching for a commission job. I was approached by MEGA and it sounded like the opportunity of a lifetime; a way to generate immediate income through the weekly advances, and a way to generate wealth over 10 or 15 years through the stock plan and from customer renewals - sounds like the perfect career; but now I'm looking at the enormous number of consumer and ex-employee complaints, and I'm stunned.

The way the managers put it to you, this product sells itself. They admit that the plan has flaws, but that the association health benefits more than make up for what isn't covered. Contrary to what many people are saying, I was trained to explain in detail what the plan covered and did not cover, and to NEVER be misleading or deceptive just to get a check (which to me is common sense, I'm always trying to help the client, not my company). I'm an honest salesperson; I want the customer to get what they need at the best price, regardless of how it affects my employer/partner.

My question is this: Is the MEGA health plan really as bad as everyone makes it sound? Again, inexperience is probably speaking here, but most of what I learned about the MEGA products made perfect sense, and sounded truly helpful to their target market, the small-business owner. Basically, I want to know why, specifically, MEGA is so much worse than other companies. I imagine I won't get this information out of my District Manager, so I hope someone here can answer. I NEED INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF MEGA, BECAUSE ALL I HAVE ARE THE POSITIVES. Also, any advice from current or ex-employees on how to get started, and whether or not to actually work for this company would be much appreciated. I'm on the verge of going out and selling this product - tell me why I shouldn't (with details if you have them!).
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AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I recently was appointed with MEGA and the NASE... I've read every comment made on this post, and I'm definitely starting to regret spending the gas to go to the weekly sales meetings 48 miles away.

I'm brand new to the insurance industry, and an honest and considerate salesperson (not to mention GOOD). I was a telemarketer for over a year, and I was d**n good at it, but I simply wasn't making the pay I deserved, and started searching for a commission job. I was approached by MEGA and it sounded like the opportunity of a lifetime; a way to generate immediate income through the weekly advances, and a way to generate wealth over 10 or 15 years through the stock plan and from customer renewals - sounds like the perfect career; but now I'm looking at the enormous number of consumer and ex-employee complaints, and I'm stunned.

The way the managers put it to you, this product sells itself. They admit that the plan has flaws, but that the association health benefits more than make up for what isn't covered. Contrary to what many people are saying, I was trained to explain in detail what the plan covered and did not cover, and to NEVER be misleading or deceptive just to get a check (which to me is common sense, I'm always trying to help the client, not my company). I'm an honest salesperson; I want the customer to get what they need at the best price, regardless of how it affects my employer/partner.

My question is this: Is the MEGA health plan really as bad as everyone makes it sound? Again, inexperience is probably speaking here, but most of what I learned about the MEGA products made perfect sense, and sounded truly helpful to their target market, the small-business owner. Basically, I want to know why, specifically, MEGA is so much worse than other companies. I imagine I won't get this information out of my District Manager, so I hope someone here can answer. I NEED INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF MEGA, BECAUSE ALL I HAVE ARE THE POSITIVES. Also, any advice from current or ex-employees on how to get started, and whether or not to actually work for this company would be much appreciated. I'm on the verge of going out and selling this product - tell me why I shouldn't (with details if you have them!).
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AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I recently was appointed with MEGA and the NASE... I've read every comment made on this post, and I'm definitely starting to regret spending the gas to go to the weekly sales meetings 48 miles away.

I'm brand new to the insurance industry, and an honest and considerate salesperson (not to mention GOOD). I was a telemarketer for over a year, and I was d**n good at it, but I simply wasn't making the pay I deserved, and started searching for a commission job. I was approached by MEGA and it sounded like the opportunity of a lifetime; a way to generate immediate income through the weekly advances, and a way to generate wealth over 10 or 15 years through the stock plan and from customer renewals - sounds like the perfect career; but now I'm looking at the enormous number of consumer and ex-employee complaints, and I'm stunned.

The way the managers put it to you, this product sells itself. They admit that the plan has flaws, but that the association health benefits more than make up for what isn't covered. Contrary to what many people are saying, I was trained to explain in detail what the plan covered and did not cover, and to NEVER be misleading or deceptive just to get a check (which to me is common sense, I'm always trying to help the client, not my company). I'm an honest salesperson; I want the customer to get what they need at the best price, regardless of how it affects my employer/partner.

My question is this: Is the MEGA health plan really as bad as everyone makes it sound? Again, inexperience is probably speaking here, but most of what I learned about the MEGA products made perfect sense, and sounded truly helpful to their target market, the small-business owner. Basically, I want to know why, specifically, MEGA is so much worse than other companies. I imagine I won't get this information out of my District Manager, so I hope someone here can answer. I NEED INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEGATIVE SIDE OF MEGA, BECAUSE ALL I HAVE ARE THE POSITIVES. Also, any advice from current or ex-employees on how to get started, and whether or not to actually work for this company would be much appreciated. I'm on the verge of going out and selling this product - tell me why I shouldn't (with details if you have them!).
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Their new "awsome care one plan"

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I keep in touch with a mega rep, (management of course) that seems to think that she could BS me with their new care one plan.

I have reviewed the plan and here is a summary of my findings:

#1. No where in the 30+ page brochure is the word "Major Medical" mentioned. How ever on page #21, the fourth line down states, "It is not a replacement for comprehensive health insurance coverage and should not be construed as such."

#2. There is no mention anywhere in the brochure as to a "MAXIMUM OUT OF POCKET" amount. Thus there is no maximum out of pocket number since this is just a "limited benefit plan". I believe there was a misunderstanding or a play of words when the agent told you that your "maximum co-insurance was $4,000". Maximum out of pocket versus maximum co-insurance are not even close to being the same.

#3. Unlike a major medical plan that has only one deductible per person this limited benefit plan has a maximum liability of THREE deductibles for one person! The wording is: "once the deductible has been met three times in one calendar year by ANY or all insured persons". In other words if one person is hospitalized three times in one year for three different illness/accident that person would have to met THREE deductibles.

#4. Instead of using the word "limited benefit", the play on words is "Maximum Allowable Charge" or "MAC". This term is used NINETEEN (19) times in the brochure. Mega with all their lawsuits R E A L L Y wants that term in the brochure possible for future use?

#5. Here are SOME of the limits in this policy which makes it a "limited benefit plan":

A. The assistant surgeon is "LIMITED" to 20% of what the primary surgeon charges. The normal fee for the assistant surgeon is 50%.

B. The anesthesiologist is "LIMITED" to 50% of what the primary surgeon charges. There is no anesthesiologist that works for a percentage. The
anesthesiologist works on "UNITS" per surgery figured by how complex the procedure is. Also the surgeon, assistant surgeon, and
the anesthesiologist are all independent contractors at hospitals. I doubt that they even know what each one's fees are.

C. In Patient Physician Visits are "LIMITED" to $100 per visit with a "LIMIT" of one visit per day. Can you imagine a heart doctor (cardiologist) or a neural
surgeon working for $100 per day!

D. Chemotherapy is "LIMITED" to $1500 per treatment. The average chemotherapy treatment cost is $3,000 to $5,000 per treatment. Once again
a limited benefit paying only a small percentage of the actual cost to the client.

E. Radiation is "LIMITED" to $1,250 per day. Once again a limited benefit paying only a small percentage of the cost to the client.

F. Prescription Drugs is "LIMITED" to $1,500 per year per person. There is a co-pay for generic but on "name brand" the client has to pay 50% of the
drugs cost! A major medical plan will have a $35 to $45 dollar co-pay for name brand.

G. Doctor's Visits are on page 15 titled "Preventative Plus Benefit Rider". The benefit is "first dollar coverage" which sounds good. However upon
reviewing this benefit it's only $500 PER YEAR PER FAMILY SPLIT UP BY IN THREE MONTH INTERVALS. $500 divided by four quarters is an
astonishing $125 per every THREE months. Or an astonishing $41.66 monthly. $125 per every three months that might pay for one doctor's visit.
On a personal note last year I had hand surgery. The hand specialist office visit fee was $220 per visit. With this limited benefit plan you would have
to save up six months of benefits to cover that one visit.

To summarize Mega's "Care One Select Plus Catastrophic Expense Plan" the word "CATASTROPHIC' is the right term. If a person had this plan and they had a
major medical crisis the blow to their financial well being would be "CATASTROPHIC"!

If you wish you are welcome to show this e-mail to the mega agent. Most of their agents are new and don't really know much about the insurance business. They are captive agents and can ONLY sell mega. The mega plan is the best plan the have and it's also the worst plan they have because it's the only plan they have.

If you want more information on Mega just google, Mega Insurance / Lawsuits and check it out.
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To John - Tulsa, OK

AUTHOR: Bob - (U.S.A.)

I left MEGA a while back and went to a 'legitimate' agency. I am now in the process of acquiring a retiring agent's $$$$$ book. I will be set for life!

Thank you, my EX district manager, for telling me I'm a loser and would never make it in this business!!! I will be sleeping quite contently every night from now on because I sell REAL, QUALITY policies that my customers are VERY happy with and will be able to cross-sell to them and their referrals for years to come!!

At least with MEGA, you get an education on how NOT to sell a policy!
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#153 Consumer Comment

Outrageous Mega/NASE premiums

AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)

I have had Mega/NASE health for 6 years now. Every six months my premiums are increased by approximately $50 per month. My premiums are now almost $600 per month and I have NEVER had a claim. Has anyone else had this same experience with the company and exhorbitant premiums?
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#154 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The Vicious Cycle of Mega Agents....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

When I realized what all the other plans offered, I could care less if Mega was in my portfolio. Even if it was available, I knew that no one would buy it if I showed it side by side to the others. THERE IS A REASON Mega uses a CAPTIVE agent force. If they suddenly made Mega available to sell through MGA channels -but made no changes to price, coverage or commissions, what would happen? Who in world would sell it?

I spend a lot of time talking to Mega agents and I have only run across a few of them that actually knew what they were selling.

Most of the time, I usually have to point out exactly how their insurance works because they have no idea. They almost always say they know, but then when I ask them specific questions about coverage, they start scrambling through their brochures.

Sadly, the average shelf-life of a Mega agent that makes it through their first month is about 7-9 months. It's rare to see lifers that aren't in management.

So you get either newbie's or lifers selling policies in the open market. The newbie's are typically always clueless. They are supposed to be! If they weren't they would leave. Because the division leaders get recruiting bonuses, they hire anyone and everyone that is willing to pay the fees and follow the managers.

So, the greenies probably make up 80% of the UGA field force. They don't mean to place prospects into bad coverage - they are just doing what their managers are telling them and trying desperately to win their quick-start contest. BUT, (and here's the key) once they are enlightened- they either leave and become real agents, or they stay and become managers like Jonny boy (that is, if they posses at least a few ounces of leadership abilities).

The ones that stay (the lifers) are mostly managers starting the vicious cycle all over again. ALL of these agents one year and up understand that they could be representing their clients with better products, but they simply don't care. They get nice over-rides by training newbies to omit all of the ugly details that clients find out only after it's too late.

Agents like John care mostly about their over-rides, stock, re-distribution and their bonus checks. Everything else (like their sub agents, clients, coverage and truthfulness) is background.

What I wish they all realized is that they can still make extremely high amounts of money without hurting clients and lying. Plus, they could actually keep their clients when they eventually want to look at a different company.
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#155 UPDATE EX-employee responds

If Mega's so fantastic...

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I did not want to leave UGA when I quit. I was tired of walking away from appointments when what I had did not fit what they were looking for. If it's easy for you to tell clients they need to meet three deductibles per year then you're a much better salesman then me.

My client's didn't like hearing that the policies were not major medical. If your clients don't have an issue with that maybe you're not stating outright that they're not major med. That's deceptive. Worst yet would be to bash major med products in order to secure a commish. If that's the case you should not carry an insurance license.

I'd wonder what kind of formal training Mega agents have on competitors products. None would be the answer aside from what their manager has told them....who most likely had an office job at UPS before working for UGA. My manager sure had an awful lot to say about other companies. The way he put it it's a wonder companies like Aetna, Blue Cross, Assurant and World have been around for 100 year.

Anyone can pull up reports of Toyota recalls and say "Look, Toyota sucks." But then again, you pull up Ford, Chrysler recalls too - then pull up reports on Benz and Beemer problems. The bottom line is all car companies have flaws yet in general all make good cars. Same with health insurance companies. All have flaws yet in general all are good.

Mega has a place in a market as does every other insurance company. It would be like saying there's one car everyone should drive and all other cars "suck." At least, that was the attitude at my office: Mega is great, everything else is horrible. Ummm, no it's not.

I wanted to be independent and still represent Mega. I told my manager I would not take any leads or bonuses. I'd just represent Mega along with the other six carriers in my state.

You can guess what his response was. If I got appointed with any other carrier I was terminated. Interesting. The others carriers I represent don't seem to care. I meet with every one of my clients in person so I don't see the issue.

Of course now after being gone I clearly see why Mega won't allow agents to be appointed with other companies, even if they don't want leads, stock or bonuses. Go compare rates and commission without drinking the Kool Aid your manager's giving you.

And by the way, your manager's a great source of info huh; someone who depends on your to sell so they can make overrides. Think what they might be telling you is a tad biased? Do your own research.
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#156 UPDATE Employee

Everyone take a chill pill.

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Everyone calm down. I've been a Mega agent for quite some time and this is the first time I've ever visited a blog.

I'll keep it short. To sum it all up:

1. About all the different names... chill, like most big companies... It's all about marketing, not scams.

2. Apparently the Blackstone group (one of the largest and most successful equity group) saw something in the this company they were will to pay a high premium for. I guess you could make a case that they are stupid, but I think... not so much!

3. Bad agents? Yep, there is bad apples in every bunch. Good agents? Yep, there are in all the Insurance companies out there. Yes, they are also in my competitors too!

4. Claims... I got a personal policy and so did a family member of mine before I bacame a rep. Honestly, they paid exactly what they were supposed to. You can buy a Cadilac plan or a Geo Metro, but regardless... they will pay according to the contract. Oh, unless you committ fraud.

5. Thinking about quitting working with company? Go ahead! More redistubution money for me!

I can't wait to see the response! Everyone have a great day... I hope we all are successful!
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#157 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jim, the same thing happened to me - only the amount was a lot higher. Myself and many other big producing agents that left around the same time all received the "debt letter" from Dan Carter. What did we do? We all filed our own personal testimonies of complaints of WHY UGA/MEGA SET US UP FOR A DEBT!

We told him how we were trained to lie over and over again to our clients in order to just get the check. We itemized the lies one by one with manager names. Why should we be forced to pay back debt from a policy that we deceived our clients into buying due to our trained methods of selling? We took a pay check for our sale- right? What else were we going to do? "Well thanks, but no thanks - I would like to make sure I'm not being deceived about the way I sold those policies, so please don't give me a check for now -"

YOU WERE LIED TO BY YOUR MANAGERS!

Our managers deceived us - and now we have to pay money on top of losing our time and marketing investment money? Those who remained in the industry, are we are supposed to leave our precious clients (that we worked so hard to get) on a terrible coverage plan that we knew nothing about when we sold it? Is there an Ex-Mega agent out there that would leave their clients on a Health Choice or Care One policy? Who in their right mind would do that once you have been enlightened on real insurance plans?

So what did Mr. Carter do? He left most of us alone. They continue today to pursue me - even to the point of suing me for the amount. I am presently in a counter-suit. They never sent another letter out to many agents. I wonder why? Could it be that Mega is scared that we will all together one day ban together and file a class action lawsuit? That's my goal. That's what I'm doing!

Most likely, he will leave you alone if you get nasty. If not, than try and negotiate the amount down. Offer him $300 to call it quits.

I am currently working on a CLASS ACTION SUIT with a high profile lawyer in Texas that has a strong rep. against Mega. Imagine if every single BURNED Ex-Mega agent came together and fought for all of the damages that we have received?

Anyone interested in JOINING ME AGAINST MEGA in this potential AGENT CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT, email me at fightagainstmega at comcast . net

I believe that all of us together can make a difference. Hopefully my email makes it on this board.
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Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jim, the same thing happened to me - only the amount was a lot higher. Myself and many other big producing agents that left around the same time all received the "debt letter" from Dan Carter. What did we do? We all filed our own personal testimonies of complaints of WHY UGA/MEGA SET US UP FOR A DEBT!

We told him how we were trained to lie over and over again to our clients in order to just get the check. We itemized the lies one by one with manager names. Why should we be forced to pay back debt from a policy that we deceived our clients into buying due to our trained methods of selling? We took a pay check for our sale- right? What else were we going to do? "Well thanks, but no thanks - I would like to make sure I'm not being deceived about the way I sold those policies, so please don't give me a check for now -"

YOU WERE LIED TO BY YOUR MANAGERS!

Our managers deceived us - and now we have to pay money on top of losing our time and marketing investment money? Those who remained in the industry, are we are supposed to leave our precious clients (that we worked so hard to get) on a terrible coverage plan that we knew nothing about when we sold it? Is there an Ex-Mega agent out there that would leave their clients on a Health Choice or Care One policy? Who in their right mind would do that once you have been enlightened on real insurance plans?

So what did Mr. Carter do? He left most of us alone. They continue today to pursue me - even to the point of suing me for the amount. I am presently in a counter-suit. They never sent another letter out to many agents. I wonder why? Could it be that Mega is scared that we will all together one day ban together and file a class action lawsuit? That's my goal. That's what I'm doing!

Most likely, he will leave you alone if you get nasty. If not, than try and negotiate the amount down. Offer him $300 to call it quits.

I am currently working on a CLASS ACTION SUIT with a high profile lawyer in Texas that has a strong rep. against Mega. Imagine if every single BURNED Ex-Mega agent came together and fought for all of the damages that we have received?

Anyone interested in JOINING ME AGAINST MEGA in this potential AGENT CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT, email me at fightagainstmega at comcast . net

I believe that all of us together can make a difference. Hopefully my email makes it on this board.
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Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jim, the same thing happened to me - only the amount was a lot higher. Myself and many other big producing agents that left around the same time all received the "debt letter" from Dan Carter. What did we do? We all filed our own personal testimonies of complaints of WHY UGA/MEGA SET US UP FOR A DEBT!

We told him how we were trained to lie over and over again to our clients in order to just get the check. We itemized the lies one by one with manager names. Why should we be forced to pay back debt from a policy that we deceived our clients into buying due to our trained methods of selling? We took a pay check for our sale- right? What else were we going to do? "Well thanks, but no thanks - I would like to make sure I'm not being deceived about the way I sold those policies, so please don't give me a check for now -"

YOU WERE LIED TO BY YOUR MANAGERS!

Our managers deceived us - and now we have to pay money on top of losing our time and marketing investment money? Those who remained in the industry, are we are supposed to leave our precious clients (that we worked so hard to get) on a terrible coverage plan that we knew nothing about when we sold it? Is there an Ex-Mega agent out there that would leave their clients on a Health Choice or Care One policy? Who in their right mind would do that once you have been enlightened on real insurance plans?

So what did Mr. Carter do? He left most of us alone. They continue today to pursue me - even to the point of suing me for the amount. I am presently in a counter-suit. They never sent another letter out to many agents. I wonder why? Could it be that Mega is scared that we will all together one day ban together and file a class action lawsuit? That's my goal. That's what I'm doing!

Most likely, he will leave you alone if you get nasty. If not, than try and negotiate the amount down. Offer him $300 to call it quits.

I am currently working on a CLASS ACTION SUIT with a high profile lawyer in Texas that has a strong rep. against Mega. Imagine if every single BURNED Ex-Mega agent came together and fought for all of the damages that we have received?

Anyone interested in JOINING ME AGAINST MEGA in this potential AGENT CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT, email me at fightagainstmega at comcast . net

I believe that all of us together can make a difference. Hopefully my email makes it on this board.
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#160 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim -your issue. EX-AGENT CLASS ACTION SUIT

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Jim, the same thing happened to me - only the amount was a lot higher. Myself and many other big producing agents that left around the same time all received the "debt letter" from Dan Carter. What did we do? We all filed our own personal testimonies of complaints of WHY UGA/MEGA SET US UP FOR A DEBT!

We told him how we were trained to lie over and over again to our clients in order to just get the check. We itemized the lies one by one with manager names. Why should we be forced to pay back debt from a policy that we deceived our clients into buying due to our trained methods of selling? We took a pay check for our sale- right? What else were we going to do? "Well thanks, but no thanks - I would like to make sure I'm not being deceived about the way I sold those policies, so please don't give me a check for now -"

YOU WERE LIED TO BY YOUR MANAGERS!

Our managers deceived us - and now we have to pay money on top of losing our time and marketing investment money? Those who remained in the industry, are we are supposed to leave our precious clients (that we worked so hard to get) on a terrible coverage plan that we knew nothing about when we sold it? Is there an Ex-Mega agent out there that would leave their clients on a Health Choice or Care One policy? Who in their right mind would do that once you have been enlightened on real insurance plans?

So what did Mr. Carter do? He left most of us alone. They continue today to pursue me - even to the point of suing me for the amount. I am presently in a counter-suit. They never sent another letter out to many agents. I wonder why? Could it be that Mega is scared that we will all together one day ban together and file a class action lawsuit? That's my goal. That's what I'm doing!

Most likely, he will leave you alone if you get nasty. If not, than try and negotiate the amount down. Offer him $300 to call it quits.

I am currently working on a CLASS ACTION SUIT with a high profile lawyer in Texas that has a strong rep. against Mega. Imagine if every single BURNED Ex-Mega agent came together and fought for all of the damages that we have received?

Anyone interested in JOINING ME AGAINST MEGA in this potential AGENT CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT, email me at fightagainstmega at comcast . net

I believe that all of us together can make a difference. Hopefully my email makes it on this board.
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#161 Consumer Comment

Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

"My" MEGA agent has been prospecting me for over six months with bi-monthly phone calls since our initial sitdown - have to give it to him for tenacity. Finally got around to doing my research as my COBRA is soon to expire and glad to have found all the good info in this site.

Loved reading the comments from ex-Mega agents. With that in mind, I figured you'd all appreciate these excerpts from the '05 press release announcing the Blackstone Group's acquisition of UICI parent to MEGA. I got a good laugh out of if:

"One of the core assets of UICI is our uniquely talented independent agency field force, which now numbers over 4,800 independent agents selling health insurance in 44 states," commented Troy McQuagge, head of UICI's Agency Marketing Group. "We believe that the sales force will be fully supportive of the transaction, and, in recognition of their central role in the Company's past and future success, arrangements will be made to permit our independent agents to continue to invest in UICI and to participate in the Company's growth going forward," McQuagge added.

Chinh Chu, Senior Managing Director of Blackstone, commented: "UICI is a very unique and valuable asset. We are very impressed with UICI's market leadership, attractive industry fundamentals and strong management. We also believe that the Company's sales agents are invaluable and provide UICI with a powerful competitive advantage. We look forward to working with the management team to continue to grow the Company in this next chapter."

Yikes!

BTW, Blackstone is one of the biggest private equity funds in world. So, it is - or maybe isn't - surprising that MEGA hasn't made it onto '60 Minutes' yet.
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#162 Consumer Comment

Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

"My" MEGA agent has been prospecting me for over six months with bi-monthly phone calls since our initial sitdown - have to give it to him for tenacity. Finally got around to doing my research as my COBRA is soon to expire and glad to have found all the good info in this site.

Loved reading the comments from ex-Mega agents. With that in mind, I figured you'd all appreciate these excerpts from the '05 press release announcing the Blackstone Group's acquisition of UICI parent to MEGA. I got a good laugh out of if:

"One of the core assets of UICI is our uniquely talented independent agency field force, which now numbers over 4,800 independent agents selling health insurance in 44 states," commented Troy McQuagge, head of UICI's Agency Marketing Group. "We believe that the sales force will be fully supportive of the transaction, and, in recognition of their central role in the Company's past and future success, arrangements will be made to permit our independent agents to continue to invest in UICI and to participate in the Company's growth going forward," McQuagge added.

Chinh Chu, Senior Managing Director of Blackstone, commented: "UICI is a very unique and valuable asset. We are very impressed with UICI's market leadership, attractive industry fundamentals and strong management. We also believe that the Company's sales agents are invaluable and provide UICI with a powerful competitive advantage. We look forward to working with the management team to continue to grow the Company in this next chapter."

Yikes!

BTW, Blackstone is one of the biggest private equity funds in world. So, it is - or maybe isn't - surprising that MEGA hasn't made it onto '60 Minutes' yet.
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#163 Consumer Comment

Blackstone Group Acq UICI Press Release

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

"My" MEGA agent has been prospecting me for over six months with bi-monthly phone calls since our initial sitdown - have to give it to him for tenacity. Finally got around to doing my research as my COBRA is soon to expire and glad to have found all the good info in this site.

Loved reading the comments from ex-Mega agents. With that in mind, I figured you'd all appreciate these excerpts from the '05 press release announcing the Blackstone Group's acquisition of UICI parent to MEGA. I got a good laugh out of if:

"One of the core assets of UICI is our uniquely talented independent agency field force, which now numbers over 4,800 independent agents selling health insurance in 44 states," commented Troy McQuagge, head of UICI's Agency Marketing Group. "We believe that the sales force will be fully supportive of the transaction, and, in recognition of their central role in the Company's past and future success, arrangements will be made to permit our independent agents to continue to invest in UICI and to participate in the Company's growth going forward," McQuagge added.

Chinh Chu, Senior Managing Director of Blackstone, commented: "UICI is a very unique and valuable asset. We are very impressed with UICI's market leadership, attractive industry fundamentals and strong management. We also believe that the Company's sales agents are invaluable and provide UICI with a powerful competitive advantage. We look forward to working with the management team to continue to grow the Company in this next chapter."

Yikes!

BTW, Blackstone is one of the biggest private equity funds in world. So, it is - or maybe isn't - surprising that MEGA hasn't made it onto '60 Minutes' yet.
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AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

John, I appreciate everything you write here. I stumbled upon this site just trying to cover myself as much as possible. Anyway, I am an x-Mega agent. I just came out of insurance school and Cornerstone hired me. In my recruiting session, the DM said that there would be NO chargebacks. I have been around , and the way he explained the pay structure went like this. Well, I nor is anyone else 100% sure about how pay gets distributed, but hey, just keep taking the checks and keep writing business.....who the heck cares, you'll be rich. I asked a number of times that if they were advancing money, why the heck wouldn't there be any charge backs? That doesn't even make a little bit of sence. He said that this is just the way it is. Well, I quit and not long after, I get a threatening letter from Cornerstone, some guy named Dan Carter, and the letter states that if I don't fork over about $1000, they are reporting me and it's going against my credit. Totally opposite of what was started to me in my initial recruiting. I tried calling this guy twice and he hasn't responded to me yet! This is intresting......I recently found oou that in the DM's training handbook, it states that at no time are pay plans reveled. They are to ALWAYS say that they don't even understand them because they are so confusing....just take the $$$$ and keep writing business. Never worry about chargebacks. Any idea on what I can do to head this off??? I was broke when I started with Mega. I was trying to persue a promising career and help people, and the way the recruiting went, it sure sounded good. However, I am still broke and I still have a family to feed. I am quite upset at what was promised to me and what really happened instead. Please, John or someone help and advise me in this matter. Do I have any recourse?
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This company is deceitful

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I worked for this company for about 6 months. There were red flags right away but I overlooked them and tried to keep an open mind. It was a mistake. I never worked in insurance before, but had a long history of successful sales in another field. I truly enjoy sales and always felt a "high" when I closed a deal. If you are a true salesman, you know the feeling.
Anyway, each time I sold I policy, I felt odd, not as though I helped someone, but as though I beat them in a contest. I began to read the Ripoffreport.com posts and could identify with each listing. I even responded on behalf of the company (see Jim from Toledo above).
I am here to say it was mistake. This company, at it's core is deceitful and wrong. The policies, are sold under the guise of "something is better than nothing", when it actually isn't. They do not pay claims, they are not cheaper in all instances, and do not care about their customers.

In addition, when I was hired, I asked about charge-backs of advanced commissions. I was told "your backend money accumulates so fast, you will never have to pay anything back. Any stock or business that stays on the books will more than cover it." I was not the only one told this, as I attended recruiting sessions and heard the same words repeated. Now they are calling me, claiming I owe money to the company. Each letter I recieved has a different total, and the person that called had yet another amount. I have no idea where the amounts came from or what they are based on. In addition, when I asked for back-up, they said ok and have not sent any.

To current agents defending the company, why do you think they would not send the back up for the bill?
Would you pay the company if they did not provide it to you?

To the ex-agents, I am lookng for advice, do I have to pay this?



I am not in the insurance business any longer and do not have an axe to grind. I am just looking for advice and sharing my story.
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This company is deceitful

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I worked for this company for about 6 months. There were red flags right away but I overlooked them and tried to keep an open mind. It was a mistake. I never worked in insurance before, but had a long history of successful sales in another field. I truly enjoy sales and always felt a "high" when I closed a deal. If you are a true salesman, you know the feeling.
Anyway, each time I sold I policy, I felt odd, not as though I helped someone, but as though I beat them in a contest. I began to read the Ripoffreport.com posts and could identify with each listing. I even responded on behalf of the company (see Jim from Toledo above).
I am here to say it was mistake. This company, at it's core is deceitful and wrong. The policies, are sold under the guise of "something is better than nothing", when it actually isn't. They do not pay claims, they are not cheaper in all instances, and do not care about their customers.

In addition, when I was hired, I asked about charge-backs of advanced commissions. I was told "your backend money accumulates so fast, you will never have to pay anything back. Any stock or business that stays on the books will more than cover it." I was not the only one told this, as I attended recruiting sessions and heard the same words repeated. Now they are calling me, claiming I owe money to the company. Each letter I recieved has a different total, and the person that called had yet another amount. I have no idea where the amounts came from or what they are based on. In addition, when I asked for back-up, they said ok and have not sent any.

To current agents defending the company, why do you think they would not send the back up for the bill?
Would you pay the company if they did not provide it to you?

To the ex-agents, I am lookng for advice, do I have to pay this?



I am not in the insurance business any longer and do not have an axe to grind. I am just looking for advice and sharing my story.
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#167 UPDATE EX-employee responds

This company is deceitful

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I worked for this company for about 6 months. There were red flags right away but I overlooked them and tried to keep an open mind. It was a mistake. I never worked in insurance before, but had a long history of successful sales in another field. I truly enjoy sales and always felt a "high" when I closed a deal. If you are a true salesman, you know the feeling.
Anyway, each time I sold I policy, I felt odd, not as though I helped someone, but as though I beat them in a contest. I began to read the Ripoffreport.com posts and could identify with each listing. I even responded on behalf of the company (see Jim from Toledo above).
I am here to say it was mistake. This company, at it's core is deceitful and wrong. The policies, are sold under the guise of "something is better than nothing", when it actually isn't. They do not pay claims, they are not cheaper in all instances, and do not care about their customers.

In addition, when I was hired, I asked about charge-backs of advanced commissions. I was told "your backend money accumulates so fast, you will never have to pay anything back. Any stock or business that stays on the books will more than cover it." I was not the only one told this, as I attended recruiting sessions and heard the same words repeated. Now they are calling me, claiming I owe money to the company. Each letter I recieved has a different total, and the person that called had yet another amount. I have no idea where the amounts came from or what they are based on. In addition, when I asked for back-up, they said ok and have not sent any.

To current agents defending the company, why do you think they would not send the back up for the bill?
Would you pay the company if they did not provide it to you?

To the ex-agents, I am lookng for advice, do I have to pay this?



I am not in the insurance business any longer and do not have an axe to grind. I am just looking for advice and sharing my story.
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#168 UPDATE EX-employee responds

This company is deceitful

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I worked for this company for about 6 months. There were red flags right away but I overlooked them and tried to keep an open mind. It was a mistake. I never worked in insurance before, but had a long history of successful sales in another field. I truly enjoy sales and always felt a "high" when I closed a deal. If you are a true salesman, you know the feeling.
Anyway, each time I sold I policy, I felt odd, not as though I helped someone, but as though I beat them in a contest. I began to read the Ripoffreport.com posts and could identify with each listing. I even responded on behalf of the company (see Jim from Toledo above).
I am here to say it was mistake. This company, at it's core is deceitful and wrong. The policies, are sold under the guise of "something is better than nothing", when it actually isn't. They do not pay claims, they are not cheaper in all instances, and do not care about their customers.

In addition, when I was hired, I asked about charge-backs of advanced commissions. I was told "your backend money accumulates so fast, you will never have to pay anything back. Any stock or business that stays on the books will more than cover it." I was not the only one told this, as I attended recruiting sessions and heard the same words repeated. Now they are calling me, claiming I owe money to the company. Each letter I recieved has a different total, and the person that called had yet another amount. I have no idea where the amounts came from or what they are based on. In addition, when I asked for back-up, they said ok and have not sent any.

To current agents defending the company, why do you think they would not send the back up for the bill?
Would you pay the company if they did not provide it to you?

To the ex-agents, I am lookng for advice, do I have to pay this?



I am not in the insurance business any longer and do not have an axe to grind. I am just looking for advice and sharing my story.
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#169 UPDATE EX-employee responds

BEWARE OF THE PAY!

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

If your planning on take a job with UGA just be very careful about how the pay works:

*You are paid 5 or 6 months "on submit." That means you get paid just by turning in an application. If you need money THAT fast you should not take a 100% commission sales job. This is also a very bad system for encouraging bad business. It doesn't matter if the client takes the policy or not - the agent has the money already.

*Any policy that gets declined, the client doesn't take the offer or the client cancels means the commission goes in a "debt account." You are charged 12% APR on this debt and the advance is also considered debt.

*When you quit you debt account is payable immediately! That means you could owe thousands and thousands of dollars if you decide to leave. If Mega Life puts the money you owe on what's called a Vector Report you will not get appointed by any other insurance company. Insurance companies will not appoint you if you owe money to another insurance company. That means the "pay on submit" can have devastating concequences on your carrer should you choose to leave UGA before you account clears.

*It takes 3 to 4 years for an account to clear. That means you'll be living off a 6 month advance for years!

*UGA has what's called a "taken rate." This is simply the percentage of your business that "goes through" underwriting. For example, if you put in 10 app and 7 go through your taken rate is 70%. That also means you only get 70% of your advance. Heaven forbid you put in 10 deals and 5 go through.

Now your taken rate is 50% and you only get 50% of what you'd normally get advanced. The taken rate is a 3 month average of placed business. One bad month can screw up that average and it can take months to "dig out" and get your average back up.

*You pay is all over the place and basically cannot be calculated unless you have an advanced degree in calculus. It's "this" percentage for one policy and "that" percenage for another. Various additions to any policy are either commissionable or non-commissionable. Ancillary products are all over the map.

*Compare that to how most companies pay: Flat 20% commish based on the total premium: $300 per month X 12 months = $3,600 X 20% = $700. That's it. The pay is regardless of what product you sell. You do $15,000 for the week? You get $3,000. Period. Ask you UGA manager to compare the 20% flat commission based on all AV regardless of the plan sold against what you're getting. Also, when independent you can get from 25% to 35% advanced commission based on production.

*Compare renewals. With UGA many managers make overrides off your renewals which means you get a small slice of the pie. Renewals with most companies are 6% to 10%. Ask you UGA manager what your renewals are.

*You don't get paid by Mega Life. You get paid by your division manager which means you do NOT own your business. That also means you are paid at the will of your manager. In my old office when a manager knew someone was about to quit or if notice was put in by the agent all bonuses and pay were held against the debt balance. Heck, you don't even get paid by UGA. Only bonuses are paid by UGA.

*So you're a UGA manager? Like those overrides? Here's my structure - compare to what you have:

I get 30% advanced commission and hire at 15% to 20% depending on experience. That means my overrides are 10% to 15%. I have no expenses and I can hire agents literally all over the country. Now do you really think you can make more than me when I can have agents from FL to CA to WA to Maine? There are general agents working from home doing $500,000 a week and making $50,000 a week. Do you really think you can make more just getting overrided off Mega business? I get overrides off 4 different companies and my agents can sell any company they want - and I still make an override.

ADVICE TO ANY UGA AGENT PLANNIGN ON QUITTING:

IF YOU'RE PLANNING ON QUITTING DON'T SAY ANYTHING! GET ALL OF YOUR APPOINTMENTS WITH OTHER COMPANIES FIRST!
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Len in Scranton

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

Len,

Did you work out of an office in Allentown? And was your branch manager from the Stroudsburg area? If so, then you are right about him being a slimeball. I just looked on Monster and saw 4 ads for 'A Salesperson's Dream Job' posted.

I don't know how this guy can sleep at night!

Now I see MEGA adverising on TV. I feel bad for anyone that contacts that number. If you live in central PA, contact Highmark BS for a REAL plan that will have you covered.
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#171 Consumer Suggestion

how long to get my money back?

AUTHOR: Ed - (U.S.A.)

I bought mega health. On the 4th day I sat down and actually read what I signed up for. I called the sales agent to cancel, he told me to wait until I got the policy in the mail. I thought that was odd, so I called Mega in Oklahoma or Texas to cancel. The call center told me they would be sending me a cancelation latter for me to sign and return to them before I could get my refund. I checked with the department of Insurance and found out that my "independant agent" was licensed to sell Mega ONLY! Now I know why he wouldn't tell me about any other plans I asked about. How long do I have to wait to get my money back?
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#172 UPDATE EX-employee responds

MEGA LIFE WARNING FOR ALL POTENTIAL REPS

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

ANYONE THINKING ABOUT JOINING THIS OUTFIT - UGA AND CORNERSTONE:

*You will be asked to pay an upfront fee - normally $200+. WARNING! No legitimate sales position has you pay anything upfront. Do NOT pay them any fee! The only fee you should pay is your licensing and proper state appointment fee.

*You will get a whopping three days of training! WARNING - it takes at least two weeks of training to properly learn the plans, rates and sales process.

*You must sit down with every client which means no matter how far away they are, you're driving there. You will be stood up and told "I'd like to think about it" while your gas bill racks up. Compare this to EVERY other that has online applications!

*You cannot sent clients quotes and plan details upon request. What legitimate company refuses to mail or email clients plan info? UGA will say "because it's too confusing and too many options for client to choose from" BULL!!! It's because if any client actually read the limitations and exclusions they'd NEVER buy!!!

*You are paid the LOWEST commissions in the entire industry!!! Most health insurance companies pay 20% - Golden Rule, World, Assurant, etc...Those companies also pay a FULL YEAR advance!!! That means you turn in 10K AV and get $2,000! Ask UGA how much you'd make if you turn in $10K!

*They LIE and say the average rep make 80K a year! LOL! The average rep quites within a month!!!! Watch the trickery! You only get advanced 5 or 6 months of commission. Even if you sell the upgraded membership you're only getting around $800 if you submit 10K due to the 80% taken rate.

*You MUST hard-close every client and ask for not only a check for the 1st month premium, but also a "fee." Most clients are not prepared to put money down! You must be a BRUTALLY hard closer to get client to pay ANYTHING upfront! NO OTHER HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANY NEEDS MONEY UPFRONT!

LET'S DO SOME MATH FOR PAY!

10K a week is $800. Say you did that every week and did $500,000. That's only 40K IN YOUR POCKET! Also realize it takes 3 to 4 years for your account to "clear."

Now...tell your manager that you want to speak to someone hired withing the last 6 months who is doing 10K a week every week! NO ONE IS!!!!

*WARNING: MANAGERS WILL SAY THAT MOST PEOPLE AREN'T SUCCESSFUL WITH UGA BECAUSE THEY'RE LAZY AND CAN'T MANAGE THEIR TIME! WRONG! MOST PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE MONEY BECAUSE THEY SELL LIMITED PLANS, OFFER HORRIBLE TRAINING AND FORCE NEW AGENTS TO COLD-CALL B LEADS!

*Next, you will be calling "B leads." These are leads up to 5 years old that have been called over and over and over! It's no different than cold-calling. THE PEOPLE YOU ARE CALLING DO NOT EXPECT YOUR CALL - IT IS COLD-CALLING!

*Check Monster and Hotjobs for "UGA" and see how many 24/7 jobs they have. If their opportunity is so fantastic who do they recruit 24 hours a day!

WARNING: UGA AND CORNERSTONE WILL SAY ANYTHING YOU WANT TO HEAR TO GET YOU TO PAY THE $200+ FEE! IF THEY HIRE 10 REPS A WEEK THAT'S OVER $2,000 A WEEK JUST IN FEES!

*YOU WILL COLD-CALL OLD B LEADS!

*YOU WILL SPEND HUNDREDS IN GAS SHOWING CLIENTS LIMITED PLANS THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY!

*THEY WILL LIE AND SAY THAT EVERYONE WHO'S NO LONGER THAT GOT FIRED! 99.8% OF ALL NEW REPS HIRED DON'T MAKE IT PAST 2 MONTHS! THEY ALL GOT FIRED FOR ETHICAL VIOLATIONS? MOST NEVER WROTE A DEAL!!!

FINAL WARNING: YOU WILL NOT BE SELLING QUALITY MAJOR MEDICAL PLANS. YOU WILL BE SELLING LIMITED BENEFITS PLANS WITH MORE HOLES THEN SWISS CHEESE!

IF YOU THINK YOU CAN CONVINCE A CLIENT TO TAKE A PLAN WHERE THE DEDUCTIBLE NEEDS TO BE MET THREE TIMES PER YEAR MORE POWER TO YA!
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#173 Consumer Comment

JOHN = Bxxx Shxx!!!

AUTHOR: Vic - (U.S.A.)

REVEAL YOUR NAME AND AGENT NUMBER: You sold a policy to my brother in Iowa, which was a big RIP-OFF!!!

DO YOU REMEMBER MY QUESTIONS BELOW!!!!

JOHN WHO? DES MOINES IOWA }


JOHN,

Are you the agent that was fired from Mega for ethics violations and insurance fraud? or was it John from Miami?

You stated that you are a agent for the State of Iowa, are you the same John that is currently being investigated for the same problem above? (By the way, the Amy from Orlando, wasn't she fired for the same thing?) Perhaps the public record info is incorrect with the State.

If you respond(or any other agent) please state the following:

1)You state license number and full name
2)You address to contact


If you (or any other agent) is license! And sincere about giving me insurance advice about any company then it's appreciated. If you do not reply because you fear you may lose your license for your comments(since most states make it a violation to make comments against other companies) THEN ALL YOU COMMENTS PAST,PRESENT OR FUTURE ARE BASELESS AND USELESS!!! SO PUT UP OR SHUT UP........

........I have completed my research on all these comments about insurance companies, which again I state that everyone major company is on this web site, in fact,every major retail company is on this site!!! Which tells me that no company is PERFECT!!! Including RIPOFF.COM!!

I await your response...

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#174 Consumer Comment

THANK YOU, THANK YOU

AUTHOR: Sarah - (U.S.A.)

Thank you ripoffreport and all who have posted on here. My husband just went to an "interview" in Scottsdale, arizona in search of a better paying career with more stability for our family. He was pumped when he called me on his way home and said this was definately for him and how he was going to make alot of money.

See, my husband is no dummy but when it comes to his family he wants the best. His current job pays about $60K a year. He put his resume online to see what happened. I actually asked him to respond to "UGA" email in regards to a sales position. Needless to say, after he got home and told me all that the job entailed it sounded good but in the back of my mind it sounded too good to be true. My Husban actually has a sales background, but NOT insurance.

Anyways, this guy he interviewed with told my husband to talk it over with "your wife" this weekend and make sure she is "on-board". Within an hour after he got home I jumperd on here(ripoffreport) only to find that indeed, it was "Too good to be true". Thank God we found out now and not 2 months from now when we could have been losing our house.....

I definately smelled a rat and I was right!!!!
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#175 Consumer Suggestion

Thanks Rip Off Report

AUTHOR: Ed - (U.S.A.)

I recently lost my cobra coverage and was suckered into Mega. I'm a pretty sharp guy, and the salesman was GOOD! I had a nagging feeling in the back of my mind and decided to check out Rip-off report. I am not going to argue the merits of Mega, however, when any company generates this much anger from its customers and former employees, its a sign to GET OUT! I cancelled my Mega policy and went back to xxxx. xxxxx isnt the best, but at least I know what Im getting
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#176 UPDATE EX-employee responds

3 days of training and Stop with the pole signs

AUTHOR: Luke - (U.S.A.)

I worked there for 3 months (in late 2006) with no insurance back ground. I could not believe they had me selling insurance 3 days into training. I had no idea what I was doing. They recruit as many people as possible (whom pay $250.00 to UICI) run them through 3 days of training then start calling old, old leads. What a scam. No wonder they get a bad rap. Honest people like me want to start a new career and get no training. How could I possibly give someone looking for insurance correct information. Out of the 30 people in my training class, maybe 3 made it a month like I did. Once I realized what was going on I left. I guess the insurance is much better then 2005 but you have to fine an agent who understands it. I also they make you neighborhood look like crap with all the pole signs.
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#177 UPDATE Employee

need advice

AUTHOR: Bob - (U.S.A.)

unfortunately, i currently work with this scumbag of a company. i would like to become truly independent and offer plans from multiple companies; how best to go about this? also, how best to deal with my due company? it is well over $10k and i don't have near the funds to pay it off (interest on your commission -- wow).

totally agree with the general tenor of the anti-mega comments in this thread. mega's policies are hapless in every regard, as we all know, and could NEVER be sold without the front that is NASE/AAS. the managers and agents i have encountered during my short tenure with the company have by in large been the most unscrupulous, backhanded, and ignorant crowd i have EVER come across.

some lovable facts about MEGA:

1) NASE/AAS/AFS have NO connection to the health insurance. the memberships don't provide a discount (they aren't even required in some states) in terms of the premium or guarantee better coverage or any of that crap. THEY ARE A FRONT for INADEQUATE COVERAGE!

2) MEGA's careone suite is better than the previous plans, true; but this amounts to saying that d**k Cheney is better than the devil. The plans STILL HAVE: max mega will pay for the ER (500-1500 post Ded.), max MEGA will pay for RX (only $1500/yr!), max MEGA will pay for preventative (which is outrageously priced), sub-par dental coverage, high max-out-of-pockets (if you even have one, and don't forget up to 3, yes 3 deductibles per year), screening's only covered AFTER deductive (absurd), and of course some outrageously priced ancillary products (income protection/theft(ha), critical care, term life (prices=haha), etc. could go on and on.

the short of it is this. MEGA offers a piss poor catastrophic suite that is moderately cheaper/the same price as much better coverage. only ignorant consumers even consider going with MEGA.

for anyone who has left MEGA and gone independent successfully already please advise me. thank you.
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#178 UPDATE EX-employee responds

There are too many ex-agents complaining -there must be truth here

AUTHOR: Len - (U.S.A.)

Jim,
There are too many ex agents complaining about the same things. How could it possibly be that all these ex agents have an ax to grind without some merit. I am a reasonable person and agree that there are angry vindictive people in the world who will write unfounded negative comments, but there are too many people saying the same things.

My main beef is that the NASE is just a cover to sell this ( my opinion) crap insurance. I was specifically told to make up an answer by my district manager since he didn't know all the answers after four years. He said most people won't even ask complicated questions and I was being too much of an insurance agent.

The Branch manager said all the time that people who try to be insurance agents will not succeed, just sell the NASE benefits in a 30 minute presentation of NASE and let the insurance be three minutes and sign them up.

Heaven forbid an agent should suggest they do not have enough product information to sell this stuff after three days of training. Two days of NASE and four hours of insurance, and four hours of paperwork.He flew through the insurance product training as if I would be selling cutlery or something insignificant.

Can you tell me why they run the ad on monster " salespersons dream job" like every week? There is unprecedneted turnover at UGA, that is why. It is a recruiting trap for people to sell a few policies and then realize what they have done and leave. How many people are hired and leave in a calendar year?? You know what I am talking about. Every person that attends an interview is offered a job. EVERYONE !!!!

As I said Jim there are too many ex agents complaining about the same stuff for there not to be some validity. They belittle people at their weekly meetings if you don't sell, and chastize you for asking product questions. You know what I mean !!!

If we are failing at our next job too, then we must be failures at all we attempt, so then why would UGA hire us in the first place?? Because we are disposable agents.

As I said, the managers have no conscience, they basically lie during their well reheared pesentation and lure people. The branch manager at my office is without a doubt, one of the slimiest people I have ever met, next to my district manager that is. Sorry, but the truth hurts.
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#179 Consumer Comment

Thanks

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I saw an advertisement for Mega Health and wanted to check them out.
The tv ad had no web address and the web site had no hard facts or information.
Thanks for the great site again and for saving me the representative BS.
Bob
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#180 Consumer Comment

Thanks

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I saw an advertisement for Mega Health and wanted to check them out.
The tv ad had no web address and the web site had no hard facts or information.
Thanks for the great site again and for saving me the representative BS.
Bob
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#181 Consumer Comment

Thanks

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I saw an advertisement for Mega Health and wanted to check them out.
The tv ad had no web address and the web site had no hard facts or information.
Thanks for the great site again and for saving me the representative BS.
Bob
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#182 Consumer Comment

Thanks

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

I saw an advertisement for Mega Health and wanted to check them out.
The tv ad had no web address and the web site had no hard facts or information.
Thanks for the great site again and for saving me the representative BS.
Bob
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#183 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Heidi......

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I don't write for Conceco or Bankers. I listed all the companies I write for. I also don't sell coverage where the deductible has to be met three times per year. And what's up with that "MAC" - maximum allowable charge? Hmmmm....sounds like the Mega clients need to do a lot of homework before seeing a doctor!

Now, get back to calling those leads. Your district manager, division manager and regional manager are all counting on those overrides!
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#184 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim - Center Valley

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I challenge you to compare the junk plans you sell to your main competitor/nemesis, Highmark BS and see that your plans have more holes in them than swiss cheese! As has been stated before:

1. You are GREEN to the insurance business as I was at one time; and with no prior knowledge of the health insurance business, you have no idea that what you are selling is garbage.

2. You are fed lies on a daily basis by your division and district managers who live off of your overrides.

3. Your customers are the real victims here because you have no idea what you are selling because of the above said lies fed to you.

4. Get out and sell real major medical policies.

I feel good every time someone calls me and wants to ditch the MEGA policy they have because it doesn't pay for anything!

Just go to Monster and see how many ads your division manager has placed. you know, 'A Salesperson's Dream.' All he does is recruit, recruit and recruit. Look around and see how many new faces are there on a monthly basis. They turn over so quickly because the 'green' agents soon realize that they are given useless leads and the policies are junk. The ones who are there for any long period of time just have no morals.

Red flags should've gone up in your mind when your division managers' first words were about the all-expense paid trips and yearly 'Reunion' before anything about what it was that you were going to sell! Get out there and sell some real policies before the ones you've already sold go off the books and you have to pay back all those advances aka loans @ 12% interest!
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#185 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim - Center Valley

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I challenge you to compare the junk plans you sell to your main competitor/nemesis, Highmark BS and see that your plans have more holes in them than swiss cheese! As has been stated before:

1. You are GREEN to the insurance business as I was at one time; and with no prior knowledge of the health insurance business, you have no idea that what you are selling is garbage.

2. You are fed lies on a daily basis by your division and district managers who live off of your overrides.

3. Your customers are the real victims here because you have no idea what you are selling because of the above said lies fed to you.

4. Get out and sell real major medical policies.

I feel good every time someone calls me and wants to ditch the MEGA policy they have because it doesn't pay for anything!

Just go to Monster and see how many ads your division manager has placed. you know, 'A Salesperson's Dream.' All he does is recruit, recruit and recruit. Look around and see how many new faces are there on a monthly basis. They turn over so quickly because the 'green' agents soon realize that they are given useless leads and the policies are junk. The ones who are there for any long period of time just have no morals.

Red flags should've gone up in your mind when your division managers' first words were about the all-expense paid trips and yearly 'Reunion' before anything about what it was that you were going to sell! Get out there and sell some real policies before the ones you've already sold go off the books and you have to pay back all those advances aka loans @ 12% interest!
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#186 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim - Center Valley

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I challenge you to compare the junk plans you sell to your main competitor/nemesis, Highmark BS and see that your plans have more holes in them than swiss cheese! As has been stated before:

1. You are GREEN to the insurance business as I was at one time; and with no prior knowledge of the health insurance business, you have no idea that what you are selling is garbage.

2. You are fed lies on a daily basis by your division and district managers who live off of your overrides.

3. Your customers are the real victims here because you have no idea what you are selling because of the above said lies fed to you.

4. Get out and sell real major medical policies.

I feel good every time someone calls me and wants to ditch the MEGA policy they have because it doesn't pay for anything!

Just go to Monster and see how many ads your division manager has placed. you know, 'A Salesperson's Dream.' All he does is recruit, recruit and recruit. Look around and see how many new faces are there on a monthly basis. They turn over so quickly because the 'green' agents soon realize that they are given useless leads and the policies are junk. The ones who are there for any long period of time just have no morals.

Red flags should've gone up in your mind when your division managers' first words were about the all-expense paid trips and yearly 'Reunion' before anything about what it was that you were going to sell! Get out there and sell some real policies before the ones you've already sold go off the books and you have to pay back all those advances aka loans @ 12% interest!
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#187 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim - Center Valley

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

I challenge you to compare the junk plans you sell to your main competitor/nemesis, Highmark BS and see that your plans have more holes in them than swiss cheese! As has been stated before:

1. You are GREEN to the insurance business as I was at one time; and with no prior knowledge of the health insurance business, you have no idea that what you are selling is garbage.

2. You are fed lies on a daily basis by your division and district managers who live off of your overrides.

3. Your customers are the real victims here because you have no idea what you are selling because of the above said lies fed to you.

4. Get out and sell real major medical policies.

I feel good every time someone calls me and wants to ditch the MEGA policy they have because it doesn't pay for anything!

Just go to Monster and see how many ads your division manager has placed. you know, 'A Salesperson's Dream.' All he does is recruit, recruit and recruit. Look around and see how many new faces are there on a monthly basis. They turn over so quickly because the 'green' agents soon realize that they are given useless leads and the policies are junk. The ones who are there for any long period of time just have no morals.

Red flags should've gone up in your mind when your division managers' first words were about the all-expense paid trips and yearly 'Reunion' before anything about what it was that you were going to sell! Get out there and sell some real policies before the ones you've already sold go off the books and you have to pay back all those advances aka loans @ 12% interest!
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#188 Consumer Comment

Hmmm... John you left out the Company you Broker for

AUTHOR: Heidi - (U.S.A.)

How Ironic my Great Aunt in Des Moines Iowa bought a Conseco policy from you. That is your true name John ****?
You conveniently left out the Iowa Insurance Division complaints of Companies you sell for.

Bankers Life & Casualty Company
22
$36,672,828
0.600

Conseco Health Insurance Company
37
$11,853,125
3.122

Conseco Senior Health Insurance Company
21
$6,607,629
3.178

Not to mention that the NAIC complaint list, consists of over 200 carriers. Check it out your very own carrier is on there. Our dear old cherished Hartford has its share of complaints too. I guess that happens!

In fact Insurance alone is enough to complain about let alone any carrier. The fact is and always will be if I don't want to be wiped out financially by a devastating, catastrophic loss I can use Insurance to counter my loss.

Insurance is not for profit for me, it is for profit for the Insurance Company ANY & ALL Insurance Company's including John's.
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#189 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're right!

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You are absolutely right. No consumer should make a buying decision or given much weight to these reports since they could be written by anyone. What it should do is prompt a consumer to do more research.

Type is "mega life scam" and start reading articles.

Better yet, go to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners website (NAIC) and run complaint reports for health insurance companies that write individual plans. I did and here are the results for 2006:

Humana - .13
Unicare - .16
United American - .56
Continental General - .65
Golden Rule - 1.27
Time Insurance - 1.35
World - 1.46
American Medical Security - 2.13
Celtic - 3.85
Mega Life & Health - 5.1

Mega has the worst compliant ratio of any individual health insurance company in the country - over 5 times the acceptable average. Now....you can argue with these posts all you want, but Mega is the worst based on NAIC reports. Go argue with them.
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#190 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're right!

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You are absolutely right. No consumer should make a buying decision or given much weight to these reports since they could be written by anyone. What it should do is prompt a consumer to do more research.

Type is "mega life scam" and start reading articles.

Better yet, go to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners website (NAIC) and run complaint reports for health insurance companies that write individual plans. I did and here are the results for 2006:

Humana - .13
Unicare - .16
United American - .56
Continental General - .65
Golden Rule - 1.27
Time Insurance - 1.35
World - 1.46
American Medical Security - 2.13
Celtic - 3.85
Mega Life & Health - 5.1

Mega has the worst compliant ratio of any individual health insurance company in the country - over 5 times the acceptable average. Now....you can argue with these posts all you want, but Mega is the worst based on NAIC reports. Go argue with them.
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#191 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're right!

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You are absolutely right. No consumer should make a buying decision or given much weight to these reports since they could be written by anyone. What it should do is prompt a consumer to do more research.

Type is "mega life scam" and start reading articles.

Better yet, go to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners website (NAIC) and run complaint reports for health insurance companies that write individual plans. I did and here are the results for 2006:

Humana - .13
Unicare - .16
United American - .56
Continental General - .65
Golden Rule - 1.27
Time Insurance - 1.35
World - 1.46
American Medical Security - 2.13
Celtic - 3.85
Mega Life & Health - 5.1

Mega has the worst compliant ratio of any individual health insurance company in the country - over 5 times the acceptable average. Now....you can argue with these posts all you want, but Mega is the worst based on NAIC reports. Go argue with them.
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#192 UPDATE Employee

This is humorous, yet scary

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

Reading all of these reports about Health Markets and Mega Insurance is very humorous, yet scary. What is so funny about this is that all of these ex-agents (who are, even if they claim that they are not), that could not hack it with our company get disgruntled and decide to cry about how bad everything is in order to justify their failure at our company.

The scary thing is that just about anyone can come on here, write a negative report, and then other people see this garbage and get scared off. I realize that is the point, and this is why people take the time to write this. These are also the same people that are now failing at some other job right now, and who will probably go and bad-mouth that company when they get fired there in a couple of months.

The bottom line is this. It is true, anyone can get the "rotten-apple" agent, who lies to them, and tells them that everything is free, there are no co-pays, no deductibles, and you get a free box of candy mailed to you on the 15th day of each month. But lets face it, this is true for EVERYTHING that you will ever purchase in life.

I can get on my soapbox and tell you how are products are the best and that everyone should be on our plans, but that is not why I am here. I just want everyone to take these reports with a grain of salt, and realize that anyone, repeat - ANYONE, can write these.

Now you could make your decision based on some disgruntled ex-agent's experience, or some less than intelligent individual who did not understand what they were buying, and always expects everything without paying anything. (Let's face it, look around, how many people out there would you trust to give you accurate information on ANYTHING) Or you could go to someplace like AM BEST or you state's department of insurance and get your facts. You know, the people the study insurance companies for a living. Afterall, if all of the horror stories posted here were true, do you really think that Mega would be allowed to sell insurance in any state? The choice is yours, but when I am going to buy my next car I will consult Consumer Reports. When I purchase my next home I will consult the best home inspector and realtor that I can find. I would just be a little hesitant if I were you about the validity of these statements.
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#193 Consumer Comment

JOHN WHO? DES MOINES IOWA }

AUTHOR: Vic - (U.S.A.)

JOHN,

Are you the agent that was fired from Mega for ethics violations and insurance fraud? or was it John from Miami?

You stated that you are a agent for the State of Iowa, are you the same John that is currently being investigated for the same problem above? (By the way, the Amy from Orlando, wasn't she fired for the same thing?) Perhaps the public record info is incorrect with the State.

If you respond(or any other agent) please state the following:

1)You state license number and full name
2)You address to contact

Since I am considering buying insurance (BY THE WAY,every major insurance company, including the ones you endorse are on this RIPOFF.COM site, are also being investigated). Also how does a site like RIPOFF.COM make money and paid their employees?

If you (or any other agent) is license! And sincere about giving me insurance advice about any company then it's appreciated. If you do not reply because you fear you may lose your license for your comments(since most states make it a violation to make comments against other companies) THEN ALL YOU COMMENTS PAST,PRESENT OR FUTURE ARE BASELESS AND USELESS!!! SO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

I await your response on this....since I intend to buy insurance within the next three weeks and I have completed my research on all these comments about insurance companies, which again I state that everyone major company is on this web site, in fact,every major retail company is on this site!!! Which tells me that no company is PERFECT!!! Including RIPOFF.COM!!

I await your response...
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#194 Consumer Comment

"Mother's claim" from Blain - Fort Smith, Arkansas

AUTHOR: Thomas - (U.S.A.)

I pasted "Blain - Fort Smith, Arkansas"'s data for his mother's medical bills into EXCEL, then I used EXCEL to parse his data into three separate columns to get the totals for the 9 months of medical bills Blain had listed:

The totals are as follows:

Gross Claims MEGA Paid % MEGA Paid
$597,944.79 $61,591.97 10.30%


MEGA Shortfall
$536,352.82

Doesn't this result make that $3600/year premium look like a bargain?
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#195 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Former Agent who has a conscience

AUTHOR: Len - (U.S.A.)

I am a former agent in Pa. who left after 30 days. The office is run by slime who teaches new agents how to avoid informing clients about useful information that helps them make the best decision for themselves. They give you a quick training on program highlights, and then out you go.

You call leads all day in the hopes of finding some desparate soul who will not ask too many questions. The dumber, the better. I have a conscience and gave it up in 30 days. Luckily I did not hurt anyone because I did not sell to anyone. My conscience would not allow me to. They have a ridiculous turnover, and they just hope out of 100 new agents , one will succeed.

I hope anyone who falls into their recruiting trap has enough to go with their gut. I went against my better jusdgement and signed up. I wondered how they could offer a job to each person in the room. A couple of people seemed so clueless that I would not offe them a job at Mcdonalds, let alone helping people with something a simportant as Health Insurance. They tell you what you want to hear. They are dispicable souls in that Pa. office, bith the Branch manager, and the District manager.

I would be interested in knowing how many agents sign up anf then leave in a calendar year? Is it all of us, or is it them. They tell you " you failed, not us." How do they sleep at night??
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#196 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Bashing MEGA agents

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

To all of you MEGA agents who think you are doing a service to your clients, well you're screwing them left, right and center! The only reason you think your product is fantastic is because you came into the insurance sales business totally green and were easily manipulated by unscroupulous division managers who are no better than snake oil salesmen.

Once you get out into the real world and sell real policies to people from more than one company, you'll see that you've been had by a corrupt, decietful system. I was in the same situation and thank God 'a little bird' told me to Google MEGA + scam. I was saved the grief of clients cancelling their crap policies and having high interest 'advances' instead of real commission checks from the company I sold for!

I hear horror stories from people all the time about how MEGA doesn't pay for any significant amount when the claim is filed! I have no problem switching these people into BC/BS plans with low yearly out-of-pockets maximums ... not this 'per occurrance' crap. Wake up people, you sell junk and your district, division and regional managers are getting fat off of your overrides by feeding you lies!
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#197 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mark Zayti Trained My Managers!!!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

R from Rochester,

I find it interesting that Mark Zayti also trained my MEGA managers in Orlando who came from Michigan and they couldn't say enough great things about about what a great "salesman" he was. The word "shyster" applies to them as well so evidently he Mr. Zayti is an excellent mentor. If you check out my entries from July, you may find an interesting parallel to how you were trained. Small world isn't it?
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#198 UPDATE Employee

Generalizations = Ignorance

AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I'm disgusted. The comments made toward Mega agents here are no better than lumping any other ethnic, social, or religious group together and demoralizing the whole. Criticize the plans, or the way claims were paid out, fine. Once you cross the line to say that all the agents are crooks, uneducated, heavy-handed, off-the-street, forced, duped, etc., then you've missed the mark. Furthermore, you've exposed your ignorance and lack of respect for human beings. There are plenty of Mega agents who are proud of what they do, how they represent the company, and are secure with what the plans are. PLEASE STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS. (Brian I would expect more from you.)

There are dishonest Mega agents, there are dishonest brokers. There are people who have loved or hated their Mega policy, same as with any company. No one can deny this.

Lastly, an idea. Since it appeares that all of the indepented agents and brokers out there know so much, maybe each state's Department of Insurance should replace their employees with a panel of brokers. Evidently the DOI's accross the nation are not as educated as the typical ex-mega broker, nor are they as concerned for their citizens. Otherwise, Mega wouldn't have been authorized to do business in nearly every state. What do ya'll think?

Somehow I think that if there was an insurance product that was truly harmful to the policy holder, those with no incentive to do otherwise would stop it before it started. That's what DOI's do.
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#199 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mark Zayti

AUTHOR: R. - (U.S.A.)

Anyone know of a Divisional Sales Manager in the state of Michigan known as Mark Zayti?

Mark Zayti is nothing but a SHYSTER! He is a liar, misleading, and very good at twisting words and situations. In all actuality, he can be thought of as the "salesman from hell" in every way imaginable. Stay clear of him, the NASE, the MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company, and any inclination of "so called" benefits offered by this Association.

It's all crap and when claim time arises, you are guaranteed to have MANY, MANY problems.

As an ex- agent with the company, I was employed by the NASE for approximately 8 years.

After I left, I became an independent and lead a much more happier, prosperous life...and best of all, I can actually sleep much better at night. I moved ALL of my NASE clients to better policies and in turn, saved them much grief and aggravation.

BUYER BEWARE!
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#200 UPDATE EX-employee responds

MEGA does NOT sell MAJOR MEDICAL!!!

AUTHOR: X - (U.S.A.)

David, you have had the wool pulled over your eyes! These 'new' plans are NOT major medical. When they were unveiled last fall, when I was still with MEGA, we were told by our district manager that these are not major medical plans! Do your customers a favor and stop lying to them. You already sell garbage, so please don't compound the issue by telling them they're getting something they're not!
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#201 Consumer Suggestion

About Those NEW PLANS.....

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

First off, Congratulation Bob. Very wise decision!

I want to discuss those "new plans" that David write about in the above posting.

He is talking about the newly touted CareONe and CarePlus Plan and as hard as Mega is trying to get it right, they are still missing the boat in comparision to thier competition.

Here are the flaws:
1) Mega- Per Occurance Deductibles and Co-ins up to 3 per 365 days. VS Assurant - Annual Deductilbe and co-insurane stop loss - One per year no matter how much you use your insurance.

2) Mega- $1 million lifetime max per individual accident or illness with $5 million for everything- VS Assurant- $8 million lifetime max all encompassing.

3) Mega- Assisted Surgen- Ded +Co-ins up to 20% of surgens covered expenses. VS Assurant - just ded +co-ins. no max.

4) Mega- Anesthesiologist- Ded+co-ins up to 50% of sergeons covered expenses VS Assurant-ded+co-ins. no max.

5) Mega- Ground Ambulance - Ded+Co UP TO $500 per trip. VS Assurant - Ded+co-ins no max.

6) Inpatient Doc visit - 100% 1 per day. VS Assurant- 100% unlimited.

NOW - here's the interested stuff:
7) Chemotherpy - Ded +co-ins WITH APPROVED COURSE OF TREATMENT: WITHOUT IT - Up to $1,500/day. Hummmmmm...VS Assurant- Ded+Co-ins no approval necessary (other than PPO network)

8) Same thing with Radiation Therpy only limited to $1,250 without approved course of treatment.

9) Mega -OUTPATIENT DIAGONOSTIC SERVICES: Ded+co-Ins PLUS $50 co-pay with $2,000 Max per 24 hour period. VS Assurant- Ded+Coins no copays No Max.

10)Mega- TRANSPLANT PROCEDURES -Ded+coins covered up to $250,000 Max. VS Assurant-Ded+coins NO MAX

11) Mega- RX- CAPPED A $1,500/year. VS Assurant- NO CAPS -just co-pays each time.

12) The doc vist preventive care rider is kinda messed up. Agents present it all wrong. It escalades into building up to a specific amount into fund- but its over a years time. Each quarter the funds add a little higher. VS Assurant - unlimited Doc sick visits from day one with a Co-pay of $35 - $750 per person/yr Wellness coverage.

13) Price - Mega is the same, if not higher than Assurant.

SOOO - David. Now you know. Its sad that your competition has to educate you on how your programs work.

Good agents care far too much about thier clients to sell that type of plan when the competition is so much better. So why do they? Because they can't sell anything else. They are CAPTIVE. Forced to sell only Mega Insurnace. They are NOT true consultants. They are leading people into the insurance that THEY want them to buy, not what thier cleints want to buy.

Beware of agents like Dave who don't give you the full truth.
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#202 Consumer Comment

Walking away

AUTHOR: Bob - (U.S.A.)

I would like to thank everyone that has posted their comments about MEGA LIFE & HEALTH. I work for a small company that does not offer health insurance. I was planning on possibly switching from my current BC/BS to MEGA.

I have read each and every entry in this long list and have learned a lot.

I will stay with BC/BS and educate everyone I work with about MEGA so that they don't make mistakes either.

I have printed out all the important entries and will hand them out.

Thanks for saving me from a disaster.

--- No longer a future customer of MEGA,
Bob
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#203 UPDATE Employee

new plans marketed by MEGA

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

All of the negatives listed here are referring to the old limited scdeduled benefit plans offered through NASE. I am a represantitive through the Alliance for Affordable Services and we just contracted with Mega's new major medical plans. These plans took a 180 degree turn from the old plans which did not pay out very well, as you can clearly read.

New plans are major medical plans that offer everything from your typical PPO style plan to the new consumer driven health plans that provide price transparency BEFORE you go in for medical care. Instead of maxes on how much Mega will pay, there is a deductible and co-insurance max of 4000, before the plan picks up at 100%.

Even better is the new coverage for dr visits, well exams, chiropractor, allergy injections, immunization shots, and diagnostic services. These services are now covered at 100% with no copay or deductible requirements.

All I'm saying is that Mega may not have the BEST track record (what insurance company does?), but NOW they certainly have some of the most competitive insurance plans available in the market to individuals.
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#204 Consumer Comment

Does anyone know anything about World Health Ins?

AUTHOR: Lee - (U.S.A.)

Have been reading your feedback, would like to know about other health insurance that you would recommend.

Thanks,
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#205 UPDATE Employee

Nice choice Georgia!

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

D. in Atlanta. Nice choice. The Mega plan you applied for is one of their new plans I believe and it is great! I am licensed in Georgia and have seen that plan. In regards to the Usual and Customary- that number isnt deemed by the insurance company. It is determined by an outside source.

Mr. PA is correct to tell you to do your research to make sure a doctor isnt going to charge you $2000 when the average in Atlanta is $800 (I dont know what the average really is). Some doctors charge a ridiculous amount because they want to get the most out of an insurance company... make sure you go to a doctor who is working to help you as a patient, not to only make money off you.

If you dont have a doctor, try to find one in the network. It will keep costs down for the insurance company because they already have contracted rates, which in the long run will keep your rates down.

If you ever have any questions, make sure you contact your agent. He/she knows the exact plan and riders you have so they can make sure you get the correct answer. Have a great day!
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#206 Consumer Suggestion

To D in Georgia

AUTHOR: Philip - (U.S.A.)

The question is 100% of what. As I posted above MEGA doesn't pay 100% of the gross bill. MEGA pays 100% of the bill up to the maximum allowable charge, or usual and customary charge. So the gross charge for your colonoscopy may be $2,000 but the usual and customary allowable charge amount may be $800 (actual experience). You are then responsible for the difference. This is why MEGA has no network. The company does not have agreements with medical providers in which the provider is bound to accept what the insurance company pays(Called a hold harmless agreement).

That doesn't mean the provider won't accept what MEGA pays. Find out how much MEGA is going to pay for your colonoscopy and then find a provider who is willing to accept what MEGA pays. A little leg work will go a long way with your MEGA plan.

This is why MEGA gives you shopping tools with your plan so you can get an idea of how expensive the provider is before you make an appointment.

In the Blue Cross indemnity days I would call BC first to see what the allowable charge amount was and then I would call providers until I found one who would take what BC was going to pay. I recommend doing the same thing with your MEGA plan.

Is your plan a consumer driven health plan?
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#207 Consumer Comment

Just signed up

AUTHOR: D - (U.S.A.)

I just signed up with Mega earlier today. Thought I would check them out on here, but I'm pretty confused. First of all, the association I bought was Alliance for Affordable Services (never heard of NASE before)... and it was an optional membership. But the strange thing is that I haven't seen ANY of the limitations yall are talking about. In fact I had a choice between 2 major medical (i.e. 5,000,000 max) PPO policies and 2 major medical policies that allowed me to search through thousands of drs, hospitals, and facilities on the internet so I could price compare BEFORE going!

The best part was that all of my dr visits, well exams, chiropractor visits, and upcoming colonoscopy are all covered at 100% with no copays or deductibles!!! AND, it's covered at 100% whether I go in or out of network. I am incredibly happy with Mega, and I really don't understand what everyone is bickering over with plan maxes, usual and customary nonsense, etc. None of that even seems relevant to any of the plans I saw.

P.S. I've owned a small business for over 20 years now and have gone through A LOT of insurance carriers and coverage types. The major medical plan I just signed up with seems to be the best plan I've ever had. So I say give 'em a shot!
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#208 UPDATE Employee

Thats Security!

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

As posted earlier, it states that Mega plans have $2000/ day of testing- thats it?!? That sure beats my $2000 a YEAR my BCBS plan had. Oh wait, I didnt find out I had only $2000 a year of OUTPATIENT TREATMENT until BCBS authorized my $3600 of treatment, then decided that $2000 was all they would pay! That's security!

For any of the EX reps posting on here, there is no need to keep bashing Mega. Just because you could not handle being either independent with no time clock or work in the insurance industry doesnt justisfy blaming it on Mega or your leaders. Look in the mirror! If you are slinging insurance now as a broker, I would recommend that any potential clients beware! Brokers will have you apply for one plan and then 6-12 months later have a different plan be "better for you"- oh wait, better for their pocket book since they will get paid again from another company. Who's best interest are they looking out for?!? That's security!

John in Iowa- pay attention: we dont mention health insurance agents in some of the job posting to keep insurance slingers away like yourself. You obviously have not seen a new Mega product because you keep reverting back to the older ones- the plans we dont offer anymore! Oh yeah, birthday cards and christmas cards, of course, but you need to be a little more creative now a days. People see right through those. They just know that after that birthday card you are going to call them and say "Hey, your 34 now, lets switch you to another company because they will have better coverage and rates for you" Cha Ching!

M in Irvine, CA. We all know that your claim about the $180,000 bill and Mega paid $3-4,000 is BS. It wouldn't happen with any new or recent insurance plan. Stop telling lies- you probably tell enought to your clients!

Amy in Orlando- wow! How long have you been in the insurance industry for? Yeah, its been less than a year. I dont think that makes you an expert, so you might want to get a little more knowledge under your belt before you start advising people in other states (especially where you arent licensed) what to do. That is illegal, and I would be careful. I have seen people get in trouble for that.

To the rest of you readers, I hope your neck isnt hurt too bad by now after reading all these. It really is a waste of time. Disgruntled former employees never have a good word to say. Truth of the matter is they couldn't make an HONEST living helping out people with health insurance and dont want to take the blame. Its okay- we are all human!
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#209 UPDATE Employee

Thats Security!

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

As posted earlier, it states that Mega plans have $2000/ day of testing- thats it?!? That sure beats my $2000 a YEAR my BCBS plan had. Oh wait, I didnt find out I had only $2000 a year of OUTPATIENT TREATMENT until BCBS authorized my $3600 of treatment, then decided that $2000 was all they would pay! That's security!

For any of the EX reps posting on here, there is no need to keep bashing Mega. Just because you could not handle being either independent with no time clock or work in the insurance industry doesnt justisfy blaming it on Mega or your leaders. Look in the mirror! If you are slinging insurance now as a broker, I would recommend that any potential clients beware! Brokers will have you apply for one plan and then 6-12 months later have a different plan be "better for you"- oh wait, better for their pocket book since they will get paid again from another company. Who's best interest are they looking out for?!? That's security!

John in Iowa- pay attention: we dont mention health insurance agents in some of the job posting to keep insurance slingers away like yourself. You obviously have not seen a new Mega product because you keep reverting back to the older ones- the plans we dont offer anymore! Oh yeah, birthday cards and christmas cards, of course, but you need to be a little more creative now a days. People see right through those. They just know that after that birthday card you are going to call them and say "Hey, your 34 now, lets switch you to another company because they will have better coverage and rates for you" Cha Ching!

M in Irvine, CA. We all know that your claim about the $180,000 bill and Mega paid $3-4,000 is BS. It wouldn't happen with any new or recent insurance plan. Stop telling lies- you probably tell enought to your clients!

Amy in Orlando- wow! How long have you been in the insurance industry for? Yeah, its been less than a year. I dont think that makes you an expert, so you might want to get a little more knowledge under your belt before you start advising people in other states (especially where you arent licensed) what to do. That is illegal, and I would be careful. I have seen people get in trouble for that.

To the rest of you readers, I hope your neck isnt hurt too bad by now after reading all these. It really is a waste of time. Disgruntled former employees never have a good word to say. Truth of the matter is they couldn't make an HONEST living helping out people with health insurance and dont want to take the blame. Its okay- we are all human!
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#210 UPDATE Employee

Thats Security!

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

As posted earlier, it states that Mega plans have $2000/ day of testing- thats it?!? That sure beats my $2000 a YEAR my BCBS plan had. Oh wait, I didnt find out I had only $2000 a year of OUTPATIENT TREATMENT until BCBS authorized my $3600 of treatment, then decided that $2000 was all they would pay! That's security!

For any of the EX reps posting on here, there is no need to keep bashing Mega. Just because you could not handle being either independent with no time clock or work in the insurance industry doesnt justisfy blaming it on Mega or your leaders. Look in the mirror! If you are slinging insurance now as a broker, I would recommend that any potential clients beware! Brokers will have you apply for one plan and then 6-12 months later have a different plan be "better for you"- oh wait, better for their pocket book since they will get paid again from another company. Who's best interest are they looking out for?!? That's security!

John in Iowa- pay attention: we dont mention health insurance agents in some of the job posting to keep insurance slingers away like yourself. You obviously have not seen a new Mega product because you keep reverting back to the older ones- the plans we dont offer anymore! Oh yeah, birthday cards and christmas cards, of course, but you need to be a little more creative now a days. People see right through those. They just know that after that birthday card you are going to call them and say "Hey, your 34 now, lets switch you to another company because they will have better coverage and rates for you" Cha Ching!

M in Irvine, CA. We all know that your claim about the $180,000 bill and Mega paid $3-4,000 is BS. It wouldn't happen with any new or recent insurance plan. Stop telling lies- you probably tell enought to your clients!

Amy in Orlando- wow! How long have you been in the insurance industry for? Yeah, its been less than a year. I dont think that makes you an expert, so you might want to get a little more knowledge under your belt before you start advising people in other states (especially where you arent licensed) what to do. That is illegal, and I would be careful. I have seen people get in trouble for that.

To the rest of you readers, I hope your neck isnt hurt too bad by now after reading all these. It really is a waste of time. Disgruntled former employees never have a good word to say. Truth of the matter is they couldn't make an HONEST living helping out people with health insurance and dont want to take the blame. Its okay- we are all human!
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#211 UPDATE Employee

Thats Security!

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

As posted earlier, it states that Mega plans have $2000/ day of testing- thats it?!? That sure beats my $2000 a YEAR my BCBS plan had. Oh wait, I didnt find out I had only $2000 a year of OUTPATIENT TREATMENT until BCBS authorized my $3600 of treatment, then decided that $2000 was all they would pay! That's security!

For any of the EX reps posting on here, there is no need to keep bashing Mega. Just because you could not handle being either independent with no time clock or work in the insurance industry doesnt justisfy blaming it on Mega or your leaders. Look in the mirror! If you are slinging insurance now as a broker, I would recommend that any potential clients beware! Brokers will have you apply for one plan and then 6-12 months later have a different plan be "better for you"- oh wait, better for their pocket book since they will get paid again from another company. Who's best interest are they looking out for?!? That's security!

John in Iowa- pay attention: we dont mention health insurance agents in some of the job posting to keep insurance slingers away like yourself. You obviously have not seen a new Mega product because you keep reverting back to the older ones- the plans we dont offer anymore! Oh yeah, birthday cards and christmas cards, of course, but you need to be a little more creative now a days. People see right through those. They just know that after that birthday card you are going to call them and say "Hey, your 34 now, lets switch you to another company because they will have better coverage and rates for you" Cha Ching!

M in Irvine, CA. We all know that your claim about the $180,000 bill and Mega paid $3-4,000 is BS. It wouldn't happen with any new or recent insurance plan. Stop telling lies- you probably tell enought to your clients!

Amy in Orlando- wow! How long have you been in the insurance industry for? Yeah, its been less than a year. I dont think that makes you an expert, so you might want to get a little more knowledge under your belt before you start advising people in other states (especially where you arent licensed) what to do. That is illegal, and I would be careful. I have seen people get in trouble for that.

To the rest of you readers, I hope your neck isnt hurt too bad by now after reading all these. It really is a waste of time. Disgruntled former employees never have a good word to say. Truth of the matter is they couldn't make an HONEST living helping out people with health insurance and dont want to take the blame. Its okay- we are all human!
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#212 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Oh, by the way...

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

The point that the insurance is only as good as the agent selling it is a good reason to stay away from Mega. Mega agents are not 5x smarter than the person looking to purchase insurance, when it comes to insurance. Most agents are getting into Mega without any training other than the quick class mandated by the state. Also, agents are trained to gloss over parts and emphasize what will happen if you get hurt or sick without this insurance. Want to not get ripped off? Simple. Your fist step is to stay away from Mega.
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#213 Consumer Suggestion

Stop being ripped off

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

I have read this entire blog and I am really amazed. People are actually surprised that an insurance company has paid less than expected or not at all for particular claims. I have been self employed for over five years and have been with three different insurance companies, including MEGA. Sometimes the insurance company paid just like I expected and sometimes they did not. Its what they do, its how they do business. Each company always paid according to the policy and all the fine print. I just had a discussion with a friend that has group insurance at a very large corporation and believe it or not they are doing all they can to avoid paying a very large claim. They even pre-authorized the service and still don't want to pay the claim.

Here's the bottom line. Your policy is only as good as the agent presenting the information. If he/she is either dishonest or uninformed you will probably feel like the insurance company is not paying its claims. You also have to consider that the average person has no clue about how health insurance works in the private/self-employed market. Only after a few unpaid claims do they learn.

Lets face it, there is a problem with the healthcare industry as a whole. I have seen accounts on here of ridiculous claims. For instance one person said they had a well child visit for over $450. That in and of itself is ridiculous considering the average pediatrician might receive only $150 - $200 reimbursement for that visit. Who is ripping off who here? The average hospital charge increased 24% from $13,900 in 1997 to $17,300 2002. However the average cost for a hospital stay remained the same, approximately $7500. This is according to statistics from the American Hospital Association. With this kind of highway robbery, who can blame the insurance companies for not wanting to pay.

If you want to avoid being ripped off then get educated on how the system works and find an agent who is five times as knowlegable as you and use that agent to help work your way through the maze of charges and reimbursements. Only then will you be satisfied with your health insurance situation.
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#214 Consumer Suggestion

Stop being ripped off

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

I have read this entire blog and I am really amazed. People are actually surprised that an insurance company has paid less than expected or not at all for particular claims. I have been self employed for over five years and have been with three different insurance companies, including MEGA. Sometimes the insurance company paid just like I expected and sometimes they did not. Its what they do, its how they do business. Each company always paid according to the policy and all the fine print. I just had a discussion with a friend that has group insurance at a very large corporation and believe it or not they are doing all they can to avoid paying a very large claim. They even pre-authorized the service and still don't want to pay the claim.

Here's the bottom line. Your policy is only as good as the agent presenting the information. If he/she is either dishonest or uninformed you will probably feel like the insurance company is not paying its claims. You also have to consider that the average person has no clue about how health insurance works in the private/self-employed market. Only after a few unpaid claims do they learn.

Lets face it, there is a problem with the healthcare industry as a whole. I have seen accounts on here of ridiculous claims. For instance one person said they had a well child visit for over $450. That in and of itself is ridiculous considering the average pediatrician might receive only $150 - $200 reimbursement for that visit. Who is ripping off who here? The average hospital charge increased 24% from $13,900 in 1997 to $17,300 2002. However the average cost for a hospital stay remained the same, approximately $7500. This is according to statistics from the American Hospital Association. With this kind of highway robbery, who can blame the insurance companies for not wanting to pay.

If you want to avoid being ripped off then get educated on how the system works and find an agent who is five times as knowlegable as you and use that agent to help work your way through the maze of charges and reimbursements. Only then will you be satisfied with your health insurance situation.
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#215 Consumer Suggestion

Stop being ripped off

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

I have read this entire blog and I am really amazed. People are actually surprised that an insurance company has paid less than expected or not at all for particular claims. I have been self employed for over five years and have been with three different insurance companies, including MEGA. Sometimes the insurance company paid just like I expected and sometimes they did not. Its what they do, its how they do business. Each company always paid according to the policy and all the fine print. I just had a discussion with a friend that has group insurance at a very large corporation and believe it or not they are doing all they can to avoid paying a very large claim. They even pre-authorized the service and still don't want to pay the claim.

Here's the bottom line. Your policy is only as good as the agent presenting the information. If he/she is either dishonest or uninformed you will probably feel like the insurance company is not paying its claims. You also have to consider that the average person has no clue about how health insurance works in the private/self-employed market. Only after a few unpaid claims do they learn.

Lets face it, there is a problem with the healthcare industry as a whole. I have seen accounts on here of ridiculous claims. For instance one person said they had a well child visit for over $450. That in and of itself is ridiculous considering the average pediatrician might receive only $150 - $200 reimbursement for that visit. Who is ripping off who here? The average hospital charge increased 24% from $13,900 in 1997 to $17,300 2002. However the average cost for a hospital stay remained the same, approximately $7500. This is according to statistics from the American Hospital Association. With this kind of highway robbery, who can blame the insurance companies for not wanting to pay.

If you want to avoid being ripped off then get educated on how the system works and find an agent who is five times as knowlegable as you and use that agent to help work your way through the maze of charges and reimbursements. Only then will you be satisfied with your health insurance situation.
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#216 Consumer Suggestion

Stop being ripped off

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

I have read this entire blog and I am really amazed. People are actually surprised that an insurance company has paid less than expected or not at all for particular claims. I have been self employed for over five years and have been with three different insurance companies, including MEGA. Sometimes the insurance company paid just like I expected and sometimes they did not. Its what they do, its how they do business. Each company always paid according to the policy and all the fine print. I just had a discussion with a friend that has group insurance at a very large corporation and believe it or not they are doing all they can to avoid paying a very large claim. They even pre-authorized the service and still don't want to pay the claim.

Here's the bottom line. Your policy is only as good as the agent presenting the information. If he/she is either dishonest or uninformed you will probably feel like the insurance company is not paying its claims. You also have to consider that the average person has no clue about how health insurance works in the private/self-employed market. Only after a few unpaid claims do they learn.

Lets face it, there is a problem with the healthcare industry as a whole. I have seen accounts on here of ridiculous claims. For instance one person said they had a well child visit for over $450. That in and of itself is ridiculous considering the average pediatrician might receive only $150 - $200 reimbursement for that visit. Who is ripping off who here? The average hospital charge increased 24% from $13,900 in 1997 to $17,300 2002. However the average cost for a hospital stay remained the same, approximately $7500. This is according to statistics from the American Hospital Association. With this kind of highway robbery, who can blame the insurance companies for not wanting to pay.

If you want to avoid being ripped off then get educated on how the system works and find an agent who is five times as knowlegable as you and use that agent to help work your way through the maze of charges and reimbursements. Only then will you be satisfied with your health insurance situation.
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#217 Consumer Comment

I SWITCHED

AUTHOR: Roman - (U.S.A.)

YUP, you guys were right... i went with
(( competators company name redacted by ROR)).

heres why

MW OOP max-100,000 ! xxxx- 4,500.

MW maximum benefit-1 mil xxxx-6mil

mw deductable-per occurance xxxx-per year.

mw chemo-1000 per day xxxx-no limit up to 6mil

Furthermore, with mid-west ccn network, st. Alphonsus was not in ppo, and i would rather go there than st. lukes hospital. So with my xxxx ppo i got st.als.

Anb my mid west price per month for my wife and I was 260. with xxxxx......160.


thanks guys.
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#218 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Call a independent broker...

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Roman,

I sold MEGA for 3 months and you are victim of the MEGA/Mid-West scare tactics.

MEGA & MW trains their agents to tell people that their "association" gives them the protection of a large group through NASE & AFS's combined membership of over 400,000 members and they are all in one group. Therefore, you cannot be singled out for rate increase or cancellation if you file a large claim or MEGA/Mid-West would put themselves out of business by cancelling their group of over 400K. This is deceptive for several reasons:

1) NO company can single you out for rate increase or cancellation due to large claims--that is FEDERAL LAW. Yes, all insurance companies have rate increases, including Mid-West, but they increase them for all of their clients across the board. You are not going to get increased for filing a claim. Rates go up because the cost of health care goes up. Simple as that. MEGA & MW is no different.

2) If it were true that Mid-West lumps everyone in one enormous group, why does every Mid-West and MEGA client I convert to Major Medical plans have a different group number on their ID cards? Because, just like other companies, MW places their clients in smaller groups based on the product they are sold and geographic factors. You are not lumped into one enormous group of 400K with MEGA or Mid-West. You have no more "protection" with MW than any other insurance company.

3) Other companies also offer benefits through an association that offer similar discounts and benefits as AFS or NASE. The difference is, these other companies don't instruct their agents to sell the association as if it is the be-all, end-all, super-power of protection and primary reason to buy the insurance.

A from RI is right about the Return of Premium rider. They sell that because no one stays on the plans long enough to even take advantage of it, but they sure do take the extra cash out of your pocket. Besides, if you ever file a large claim due to a catastrophic incident, you will wish you had that extra money back to pay the bills from the gaps in coverage you have with MW.

Take a good look at the policy you were sold. I don't know what the coverage is like in Idaho, but here's what to look for:

1) Do you have a per occurance or annual deductible? Reputable companies have annual deductibles.

2) What is your annual out of pocket maximum? Don't just look at your deductible. How much coinsurance do you have to pay? In Florida, on MEGA's PPO plan, the OOP max is $4500 on top of the deductible and that is PER ILLNESS OR INJURY!!! Reputable companies have much lower options for you to choose from and their plans cost much less than MW.

3) What caps do you have on services like Room & Board, chemotherapy, presciptions, outpatient testing, emergency room visits, etc. If you have a daily max of $1000 for chemo or $500 for R&B you are in big trouble. I just met with a lady that had Mid-West who was capped at $400 for R&B. An average room night in an Orlando hospital is $800 per night. That means if she ever went to the hospital, she'd be footing half of her R&B bill in addition to her deductible and co-insurance.

MEGA & Mid-West do not sell Major Medical plans. The caps are how they prevent their own loss--not that of their clients. A reputable company offering Major Medical plans caps the client's loss, not their own. Yes, there is a lifetime max on any policy, usually $2-5 million, but with MEGA, their a la carte approach to insurance leaves too much room for clients to underinsure themselves.

Most people don't have the experience to know that $500 per day of coverage for outpatient testing isn't enough to cover the $4000 MRI. In Florida, the most MEGA will cover for OP testing is $2000 per day. That still doesn't cover an MRI or CAT scan. And most MEGA & MW agents aren't going to point that out to you because if they max out everything on your plan and give you coverage closer to that of a reputable company, you would never be able to afford MW insurance, and they would never make the sale. So they give you the "choice" to pick what you think you need, and that usually results in extreme gaps in the policy.

The Mid-West lady (she's 60) was paying over $450 a month for her sub-standard plan and all of its gaps & caps, and I was able to get her a name-brand product with an annual max OOP of $3K including her deductible(no caps on chemo, R&B, Rx, etc.) and dental coverage for $384.

Open your yellow-pages and start calling independent agencies. Tell them you want to see comparisons for no less than three companies, and then make your decision. Don't take your MEGA agent's word for it. He may be a nice guy, but he is extremely un-educated about real insurance and has no other options to give you. He has to convince you and all his clients that you bought the best plan or he would never get paid.

Good luck and keep us posted.
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#219 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Careful Roman

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Roman, not everything you were told is correct (as seems to often be the case with UICI).

1. Your rates - will go up, sometimes more than once per year, and often times there will be large jumps in premium per month ($50+). Just because UICI says you cannot be singled out for rate increases due to a medical condition that arises after you are covered does not mean that other companies do. I know plenty of people on BCBS who have had heart bypass surgery and cancer (same person), and while the rates have gone up, they have not been astronomical. Meanwhile, some of my former clients are asking me why the MEGA coverage I sold them earlier in the year is getting sooo expensive. I have nothing I can tell them.

2. Weigh the pros and cons of your policy not being cancelled. In MA and RI (where I am licensed), MEGA plans changed 8 times in the 6 months I was with them. The clients were still covered according to their old plans, but the pressure was on the agents to change those plans to a new plan. When that would happen, many of my apps were rejected.

3. ROP is so stupidly expensive (approx $10 per month per year of age. ie 40 year old is approx $40/month just for ROP.) Also, you have to have the plan until you are 65 to get the money back. The stats passed around the office - under 10% of all plans sold have ROP rider, and the average amount of time a policy stays on the books is under 4 years. You would pay approx 48 months worth of premiums that would guarantee you nothing when you need a new plan.

4. Your final question, about AM Best - read the whole report. AM Best only gives opinions on financial stability of the company, not ethical dealings. The end of that report (which is so conveniently left off all brochures) is the company has a negative future, meaning they expect business to decline for the company. Call your state insurance commissioner, and ask for information about Mid-West or MEGA. They should tell you whether there are any complaints filed against the company, and then give you the AM Best report. Or, just go to the AM website and check it for yourself.

hope this helps
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#220 Consumer Comment

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

AUTHOR: Roman - (U.S.A.)

Currently, I am a self-employed Tile Installer. I was uninsured for about 3 years, and Thank God did not have any accidents. I recently got married, and decided that we needed health coverage.

I recently purchased coverage from mid-west national life insurance company of tenessee; which has the same relationship to the alliance for affordable services
as MEGA has to the National assosiacion for the self-employed. But they are all UICI affiliates.

I believe strongly in the quality of my insurance company. However, it could lead to bancrupcy if im wronge. My agent (who is also the DM) is a very nice ,knowledgeable, and sincere person. His family is covered by mid-west, but he cant be by the (affordable)rates, because he is a diabetic. His blue cross rates went so high he is eventually going to a state-guaranteed coverage...

My questions are these:

1. Is there any other coverage besides these associacions that:
a) offer no individual rate increases(ex.get rerated and rased premiums due to high claims).
b) have no right to terminate coverage once accepted.
c) offer return of premuim benefit.

and my second question is..

2. How can mid-west be a-rated by a.m. best ratings if they are so horrible?


I know, it sounds like I got brainwashed by my agent that i have the most secure coverage, but i
have done research and talked to agents from other companies, and it seems to me that mid-west isnt too bad. I mean, there are no perfect insurance policies.

The reason im writing this is because I want the truth. everyone that I ask seems to have a different opinion, and my familys health certainly isnt a matter of who gives the best sales pitch...

anyone with some real info and advice i would appreciate it....thanks.
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#221 Consumer Comment

Good Info, may have saved me

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

I had a meeting this morning with a rep from Mega. He was very nice but did not seem very informed and was using a sales pitch that smacked of Amweigh, almost as if he was going to ask if I too would like to be an "IBO". The Insurance does not sound effective and seems to reflect as a "discounter". The whole plan sounds wish-washy. I a friend who is a physician and he says that MD's only get what was negotiated by the insurer. We are absolutely not responsible for any difference that BC/BS didn't pay. That's why MD's see 4-5 people per hour and you wait forever. This does not even seem like real insurance, but like those "discount affiliate program cards" you see on late night commercials that seem to prey on the poor and immagrants. For the record I am a former Union phoneman, I have always had awsome insurance, 15 bucks at the doc and 10 for rx. I wish I had my old insurance because this is scary stuff.
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#222 Consumer Comment

Clearing the air

AUTHOR: Philip - (U.S.A.)

I hope I can clear the air here. I have health problems, have two science degrees, have worked in health care, and currently work for a major P&C company.

The biggest problem with the MEGA/NASE insurance plans is that providers are not bound to accept what MEGA pays. With most major insurance companies the providers in the network are bound to accept what the insurance company pays. This is called a hold harmless agreement.

Since MEGA doesn't have hold harmless agreements the patient will pay the difference between what MEGA pays and what the gross billing is. This can be substantial. Usual and customary charges are typically paid at 40% of the gross billing (by any health insurer.) The term usual and customary itself is a sham since no provider actually charges the UCR to customers off the street. So MEGA may claim to pay 100% after deductible but it is only 100% of the UCR charges and then the patient pays the rest.

The key with traditional PPO and HMO plans are that the patient must stay in network. In network the patient pays the co-pay and deductible and nothing else. However outside of the network the patient will be billed for the difference between what the insurance company pays and the gross charges. This is called balance billing. I have a feeling this is where MEGA is getting its horror case examples from.

So where MEGA has an advantage is if the customer wants maximum choice in who to choose for care and is willing to spend the money for what MEGA doesn't pay. However, I think most people cannot afford the out of pocket costs of health care and are therefore better off with a PPO or HMO plan with a major carrier that has a hold harmless agreement with its providers.
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#223 Consumer Comment

California customer - first impressions

AUTHOR: Bob - (U.S.A.)

I'm in California and my family recently signed up for Maga Life via NASE.

I did not see this thread prior to signing up, but it was good timing because I had not yet reviewed my paperwork in detail until AFTER I read the thread. And thus I was able to be more critical of what I was seeing!

Note that I have wondered while reading this thread whether California has better coverage with Mega due to the many mandates of the State.
[I noticed that there was only one mention of California in this thread (as I recall) and I believe no specific problems were listed.]

So here are some hopefully objective comments about what I have received:

The short story is that I was quite pleased, after having read this thread, that I received two sets of information, both of which seemed fairly detailed and complete.

One package was the "Premire PPO Plan for California" which very nicely laid out the options available. A generic booklet that I could could review to see what all the options are, and mark off which I have chosen.

This booklet also included definitions, exclusions and limitations,and additional questions.

Having worked for a large national company previously I found the booklet to be on par with my previous company and was pleased with what it presented.

The second packet was the actual insurance certificate. This lists a summary of all of the coverage I have chosen and detailed pages for all of the riders. It too included Definitions, termination information, etc.

I was then able to go through the coverage listed on the certificate one piece at a time and mark it in the generic booklet. Everything matched up fine.

Thus, in my own experience with the paperwork and communication of coverage, I feel that a good job was done and I feel that I should be able to know what my coverage will be as the need arises.

With that said, I will be fair and point out that I am not vouching for how 'good' the coverage is for the price I am paying.

What I need to do is to do a detailed comparison of coverage with other companies.

I will say as a very subjective gut feeling from what I see, that this policy, and probably the objective of Mega Life, is to provide basic coverage for 'standard' medical needs.

In fact, the first page of the booklet shows a graph showing "annual frequency of claim size for insureds with inpatient stays" with the findings that the large majority are for 'relatively smaller amounts'. So I take this as support of my idea that they are trying to take care of the majority of people which are people who have smaller claims. [Or something like that!]

The proof will be when we have our first medical need and then I can report back on what happens!

The kicker to all this, and which also adds to another point of this thread is that it was also mentioned to me that I may want to consider selling insurance with Mega Life.

I will point out that having been in Real Estate, that some of what has been mentioned about working for Mega reminds me of that business. The main item would be that you apparently pay a fee to start up. In Real Estate this fee is understandable because you are an independent contractor (as with Mega I believe) and it covers your training, etc. So though it may sound like a big deal that you 'have to pay to work for them', it seems to be a standard practice in Real Estate and thus may be understandable with Mega too.

Summary:
1) Information/Documents received: Detailed and professional.
2) Coverage: Looks decent, but need to do comparisons before passing judgment.
3) Working for them: An initial fee as an Independent contractor is not unusual as long as what it pays for makes sense.
4) This is all based on the specific policy I signed up for and being based in California. This may not be comparable to other states.
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#224 Consumer Comment

Using so many names...

AUTHOR: Jeremy - (U.S.A.)

I was just contacted by a representative from UGA (actually they left a v/m). I did a quick search out on the Internet and quickly found that they are a division of Mega Life & Health, they also UICI Marketing when they are contacting candidates that post resumes on various sites. I also found that the Attorney General of MA is suing them for deceptive marketing practices and improperly denied claims.

Beware!!!
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#225 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Do your homework

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

I am an independent agent and one of the tougher parts of the business is trying to help someone who has a major health problem that thought would be covered. I have dealt with a person that had cancer and was told that it was not covered (yes they had the cancer rider), a person who's son had fallen into an emptied pool and was told that if he had required more stitches on his head the emergency room visit would have been deemed as medically necessary, and yet another that had an anneurism and bills of approximatly $180,000 of which the insurance company paid roughly $3,000-$4,000. These people all had UICI products and are just a few examples.

I have not experienced this with any other company. A little further up the responses someone mentioned 75% of people who filed BK had health insurance, I believe the true stastistic on this is 75% of all BKs are the result of health related bills. Big difference. The primary reason for this is that these people do not have any form of dissability coverage, something that I heavily urge all of my clients to have a plan for.
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#226 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GOOGLE MEGA LIFE + SCAM

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Pat, you like Google searches then Google "mega life" + "scam" and enjoy yourself. Google the PBS special about Mega they did recently.

I'll never convince you, but it's neither here nor there. The attorney general's office in MA just filed a suit against Mega on the 24th for deceptive business practives. Google that. Hey, didn't Mega clean up their act? Yet ANOTHER lawsuit for deception 2 days ago??? I wonder how Blackstone will react to that?

I also see that Blackstone sold the student division to United Healthcare - wasn't profitable enough. Wow....so what if Mega's not profitable enough for Blackstone?

My best guess is you have about 2 to 3 more years and if Mega can't show greatly increased numbers to Blackstone you'll be out of business. My guess is also that Blackstone isn't gonna put up with the incessant lawsuits Mega has incurred in the past - and the lawsuits just keep coming.

Too bad about that student division. I'm sure they tried. All the insurance companies I work for aren't owned by a private company - so I'm pretty safe. How safe do you feel after 4 years of stagnate sales that were so bad that UICI went from a public to a private company? Better not throw away your resume.

And if Mega is so incredibally fantastic why don't they advertise for agents in the broker community? I don't sell over the internet - I meet with every one of my clients. So why is it that I can't represent Mega along with my other companies? You and I both know why.

In fact Pat when I went to quit I still wanted to represent Mega Life. I just also wanted to represent other companies so I had a variety of underwriting guidelines and other benefits like maternity. My division manager said if I wanted to represent other companies I'd have to quit. I said "why would I have to quit just because I want to give someone a solid maternity benefit?"

What good was Mega to me when they declined for anxiety? Put riders on darned near every pre-ex condition? They same time Mega's underwriting is tearing my clients to shreds they're bashing other companies? And if my client is declined or gets a rider they don't want to sign I just have to walk way from the deal? Why can't I try them through another carrier and be of service to my client?

Why can my clients research rates and plan details before I meet with them? Why can my clients apply with no money down and a $20 app fee? All these things make you want to go hmmmmmmmmmmm.

Keep pushing the square peg through the round hole Pat. No single insurance companiy fits everyone's needs - which is why I'm appointed with six.

And the bottom line is this: Your clients was a comprehensive major medical plan. It's your job to talk them out of that. That's how you want to make a living?

Money or not, I'm gone because I want to represent my client - not an insurance company. That means I search for the product and underwriting decision that best fits their needs. You'll never be able to do that with Mega.
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#227 UPDATE Employee

Mega Agents in it For the Money? Ask John the $15,000 per Month Man

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

John, you have continually ripped on me. But you let all of us know about what is important to you. All I hear from you is how great you were with Mega and now are one of the top agents in the country. By the way, I have a friend who is also one of the top agents in the country BUT: he doesn't tell anyone he is. You are makiing tons more money than any OR most of your clients probably make.

Sounds to me like a VERY REAL disrepancy with the people that say Mega agents are in it for the money. John, you are still not addressing the newest plan. You pull out something other than what I sell. Because none of the scenarios you present apply with the main plan I sell. Now here is the bombshell and I want anyone listening to him to read and hear this loud and clear.

I know about someone who recently had to go through a hellish nightmare with their child and it was a specialized treatment center involved. There was not (contrary to what John said) a willful decision to go out of network for a non emergency.

The reality is that our new policy would have meant probably less than $10,000 out of pocket for them. They had a major insurance companies' group plan from the spouses work. The treatment was given "out of network" wasn't an emergency and fit into a category where sometimes you do "willfully go out of network" and it is not covered.

If fact, not even close to being covered. They are out a ton of money now because reasonable and customary billing and "balanced billing" did apply. If anyone really thinks John the know it all (one of the top agents in USA) is not (as he accused me) blowing smoke: go to Google and type in the words reasonable and customary push the spacebar once and then add a + sign and no space.

After the plus sign type in out of network. So what you will have is: reasonable and customary +out of network. Read for yourself. You will have to look at a lot of pages. Look for ones that are from a university for example. They detail pretty strong how it works out of network.

Don't take my or Mr. best of show's word for it. It always says "won't pay any more than what is determined to be reasonable" or "allowable." It doesn't mention emergencies etc. Go to a cancer, burn unit etc, or as one of our competitor's clients did: get a procedure done for cancer and pay 95% of the bill because they were out of network.

The challenge still remains John: put in writing for all of us what companies have a GUARANTEED $1,000 maximum out of network. FYI: You can also go to the American Medical Association website and their is an article on lawsuits against insurance companies who don't allow enough for many procedures.

It is TOTALLY dealing with out of network billing gaps. Nothing more. My research and info I use has not come from my managers like John and others have accused me of. I have done my own research and continue to.
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#228 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're kidding, right?

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Pat, I've seen the new plans. They are identical to the old plans except slightly enhanced benefits such as wellness and drugs. Beyond that they are simply re-named.

Let's address some things:

*Per period of confinement deductibles leave the client with unimagionable exposure. How do you successfully explain to a client that the deductible resets after release from the hospital? (note: you don't - you hope the client doesn't read that part)

*On the indeminty "go to any hospital" plan the surgical caps are simply far too low to give hit a reasonable rate for the client. Go ahead and work up $1,000 R&B and max the surgical benefits. Can't do it and sell it. That plan also doesn't have a DME benefit. What about one visit per day in confinement? How is in-patient therapy treated? What if you're in the burn unit? What's the ICU cap? You only get the ambulance paid if you're confined?

*On the PPO product the OOP doubles to $9,000 for being out of network. Add that to the deductible and remember it's per period of confinement and it's the worst liability a client can assume in the market place.

Pat, almost every company I sell has a $1,000 penality for being out of network. A client is only "balance billed" if they CHOOSE to go out of network and it's not an emergency.

Let me teach you about health insurance Pat. If you're on vacation in another state and you get ill/have an accident you can be in or out of network and it doesn't matter as long as you needed immediate treatment.

If you don't need immediate treatment - say you have a scheduled back surgery and it's one week away - then NO health insurance company is going to authorize an out-of-network facility.

You are talking about the .01% of people choose to go to an out of network doctor/facility for treatment and know it's out of network for a non-emergency procedure. Yes, then they're balance billed.

Basically, you're using extremely rare cases and painting them as the norm in an attempt to justify what you do and scare clients into purchasing your products.

Listen Pat, save the BS. I ran one of the largest districts in the region for years. There's reasons UGA only targets non-licened reps on boards like Monster and Hotjobs.

And if you want to know whether or not UGA is a deceptive company then search "UGA" on Monster and tell me if you see a single sentence about selling health insurance. Not there is it? Wow...what an honest company, huh?

Pat, you are arguing with one of the former top 20 UGA reps on the country, a former UGA manager and now one of the top independent agents in the country. Again, go blow smoke somewhere else.

So you used to be independent and went to UGA?

1) You no longer own your book of business - UGA does. I own my book of clients.

2) If you take an advance you're paying 12% in interest. I pay nothing and get a full year advance.

3) I get as high at 10% renewals to 7% renewals. Pat, I have 3 million currently on the books as we speak on my renewals are $180,000 a year. That's $15,000 a month in renewal.

4) I actually get renewals - you get policy lapses. As your clients get rate-increased into oblivion, cancel due to premiums or simply want another plan you lose a client. I keep everyone since I can sell all plans in my state. 5 years from I'll have an 8 million dollar book of business and $400,000 in renewals. 5 years from now you'll be in the field trying to sell $10,000 that week to get a check.

5) I never lose a deal. I can sell plans with immediate maternity benefits, no exclusions for pre-ex conditions and plans with no deductibles. You have to fit the square peg in the round hole to get a deal then pray your client doesn't catch it.

6) I send my clients monthly newletters. You do that? No - you hope they lose your number after the sale. You sent you clients Birthday and Christmas cards? Thought not.

You're certainly not the sharpest tack in the box. You're gonna run around for the next 10 years so your division, distric and regional manager can get rich? I work for myself and my clients.
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#229 UPDATE Employee

Step Up John

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

John all the examples you use with numbers are about the plans you know of. Our newest plans don't work that way. Number two, I have worked for other companies as well. Name the companies that only have a $1,000 penalty for out of network care.

All the companies I have looked at (on my own not with my manager) have no maximum that you pay out of network. If fact, they all say something to the effect of client is responsible for any amount above reasonable. You never address that. There are too many people who have written about this on other boards. I can't name names or they won't print my rebuttle.

Again, give me names of the companies who have a true $1,000 out of network charge. The policies I have replaced clearly have major flaws out of network and I have been appointed with some of them. You are not dealing with a neophyte here either.
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#230 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thank you, thank you John

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I was never a manager for UGA/MEGA. I got out pretty quickly. However, the memo John received and the phone conversation that followed it up fills in some of the gaps that I noticed during my short stay. I seriously doubt that memo ever made it to my managers. They talked all day about HOPE, and how something is better than nothing, but then I would get grilled when I couldn't flip a customer from a major med to the ppo ("This plan is accounting for nearly 65% of all policy sales in the US. People LOVE this plan." From my manager).

I was told to tell people the plan was better, and use all the heavy handed garbage we all know about. When I asked questions that I was being asked (how much will it cost me if I get burned and have to go to Boston {I was selling in RI, a few blocks from the Station night club fire that killed 100 people}) , my manager wanted to know why I was allowing the presentation to go in that direction.

Pat, I'll call your bluff. You don't leave a house if you are not allowed to explain everything to a customer. Thats BS. It is certainly not how you were trained, and it is not following in the character of this company. And as far as MEGA having the best training and most product knowledge, when I wanted to know about the HSA, I was told by my manager it covered everything, even though the brochure said differently. So I called the IC in TX, and they read verbatim what the brochure said. When I asked for clarification, they said to ask my manager. It is a smoke and mirrors sham, as we have shown. Thankfully there are people changing their minds about transfering insurance to or working for MEGA.
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#231 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thank you, thank you John

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I was never a manager for UGA/MEGA. I got out pretty quickly. However, the memo John received and the phone conversation that followed it up fills in some of the gaps that I noticed during my short stay. I seriously doubt that memo ever made it to my managers. They talked all day about HOPE, and how something is better than nothing, but then I would get grilled when I couldn't flip a customer from a major med to the ppo ("This plan is accounting for nearly 65% of all policy sales in the US. People LOVE this plan." From my manager).

I was told to tell people the plan was better, and use all the heavy handed garbage we all know about. When I asked questions that I was being asked (how much will it cost me if I get burned and have to go to Boston {I was selling in RI, a few blocks from the Station night club fire that killed 100 people}) , my manager wanted to know why I was allowing the presentation to go in that direction.

Pat, I'll call your bluff. You don't leave a house if you are not allowed to explain everything to a customer. Thats BS. It is certainly not how you were trained, and it is not following in the character of this company. And as far as MEGA having the best training and most product knowledge, when I wanted to know about the HSA, I was told by my manager it covered everything, even though the brochure said differently. So I called the IC in TX, and they read verbatim what the brochure said. When I asked for clarification, they said to ask my manager. It is a smoke and mirrors sham, as we have shown. Thankfully there are people changing their minds about transfering insurance to or working for MEGA.
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#232 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Interesting that......

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Right before I left the DOI in my state had apparantely received a lot of complaints. All the mangers, including me, got a communication directly from UGA that basically said this (I'll paraphrase since it was years ago):

1) Remind the agents that this is not major medical coverage and it is not to be presented as such.

2) Under no circumstances is the coverage to be presented as "better than" or "equal to" major medical coverage.

3) Agents should not be out to replace major medical policies.

4) Our coverage is not for everyone. Clients who have stated that they want "major medical" or "comprehensive" should not be lead to believe that the Mega Life policies are major medical or comprehensive.

5) Agents cannot represent to the client that other carriers will either cancel their plan or raise their rates based on claims history.

This communication was backed up by a phone meeting we all had behind closed doors which basically said this: "These are limited plans and should be sold as such. The target market is people who currently don't have coverage due to price. Under no circumstances are we to replace coverage when clients have made it clear they want the "same" coverage they currently have indicating they want major medical or a comprehensive plan."

So this is just all BS and smoke. Even at the top of UGA they know the truth which is this:

If the plans were sold strictly by the benefits agents would be lucky to get one sale a month. Instead, the plans are protrayed to be "better" then major medical plans and scare tactics are used to make clients believe that other plans will leave them in financial ruin.

This is why the plan details are not available online and a heavy-handed in-person presentation is needed to "close" the deal quickly before the client has a chance to think about it or research.

This guy Pat is the definition of the problems Mega Life faces - agents representing to clients that limited benefit plans are "better" then major medical plans.

Pat, in my old division you'd be fired for telling clients in a presentation that the plans are better or equal to major medical. I'm surprised you still have a job. You must be in an extremely unethical division with no training or monitoring.
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#233 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Pat, stop misinforming your clients...

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Pat, are you kidding me? You are the shining example of the MEGA agent--misinforming clients in the guise of educating them. Spewing the garbage your leaders spew at you so you can pretend to make an honest living. Shame on you for continuing to defend MEGA's products without educating yourself.

Let me quote some of your misguided information. "Adding special riders to our plans can give the same coverage as a major medical plan...Our newest plans have equal or better chemo benefits in network...Our out of network coverage KILLS our big competition."

You are clueless, buddy! MEGA has caps on their chemo coverage and just about everything else--even on that glorious Premier PPO that MEGA agents like to brag about. What's so "special" about a thousand bucks a day for chemo? That's how much MEGA's PPO covers in-network in the state of Florida, it's half that out of network. That is not major medical coverage and it doesn't come close to killing your competition.

And then to say, "I know of no other company that spends as much time educating clients." How can you educate your clients about something you obviously know nothing about?

The truth is, you simply don't know anything about any other companies.

The truth is, you don't know what a major medical plan is.

The truth is, you don't know how to educate your clients, you were only taught to deceive them.

The truth is, you hope what we're saying here isn't true.

The truth is, there is trickle of doubt in the back of your mind about MEGA, but you are in too far to admit it.

Why else would you be here?

P.S.--Thank you, John from Des Moines! You are a wealth of knowledge and I appreciate your entries.
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#234 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Pat - you still don't get it

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Pat, a client can easily go BK just on the $1,500 drug cap alone. Aside from that they get get slammed with ER charges with that $1,000 cap.

Pat, I was one of Mega's top producers in the country for years. That was until my clients started calling with horrible stories which forced me to take a look at what I was selling - most of which was Premier PPO.

Premier PPO - as you well know, has a horrible penality for being out of network since the OOP changes to $9,000 and the coinsurance is 50% - that's PLUS the deductible PER OCCURANCE!

You also misread the Harvard article. Yes, 75% went BK and had health insurance for two reasons:

1) They lost coverage due to an inability to pay their premiums and the policy lapsed.

2) Their average bill was $12,000. $10,000 in the US triggers a BK for a lot of people.

So how does an out of network Mega PPO claim with a $2,500 deductible solve that Pat? That client would owe $2,500 PLUS $9,000 = $11,500 and that's per-occurance. Hope they don't need another confinement during that same year.

I've been independent for many years and let me explain something to you:

1) If you're in network most insurance companies don't allow balance billing and that's in writing. That means there's no "UCR" in network.

2) Most insurance companies only allow a MAXIMUM penality for being out of network. That varies but the policies I sell are $1,000 penality. That's it.

3) Every single policy I sell bills clients the in-network rate if they're out of network and it's an emergency.

4) Any client that has a scheduled major procedure will be sent to an in-network facility - like a transplant or major surgery. There's never a time when the client has a scheduled surgery and ends up at an out-of-network facility since the company will only authorize an in-netork facility.

The only time a client will ever be nailed with balanced billing is if they CHOOSE to go out of network and it's not a medical emergecy.

You don't know a single thing about insurance and it's crystal clear you've had no formal training outside of Mega. Your posts and lack of knowledge are actually embarrassing and reminds me of back when I was chugging the Kool Aid.

The problem Pat is you're on the board arguing with former Mega Life managers - like myself - who know in graphic details exactly what's going on. Save your arguments for newbies - not people who's produced millions in premiums for Mega and know the full story.
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#235 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Pat - you still don't get it

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Pat, a client can easily go BK just on the $1,500 drug cap alone. Aside from that they get get slammed with ER charges with that $1,000 cap.

Pat, I was one of Mega's top producers in the country for years. That was until my clients started calling with horrible stories which forced me to take a look at what I was selling - most of which was Premier PPO.

Premier PPO - as you well know, has a horrible penality for being out of network since the OOP changes to $9,000 and the coinsurance is 50% - that's PLUS the deductible PER OCCURANCE!

You also misread the Harvard article. Yes, 75% went BK and had health insurance for two reasons:

1) They lost coverage due to an inability to pay their premiums and the policy lapsed.

2) Their average bill was $12,000. $10,000 in the US triggers a BK for a lot of people.

So how does an out of network Mega PPO claim with a $2,500 deductible solve that Pat? That client would owe $2,500 PLUS $9,000 = $11,500 and that's per-occurance. Hope they don't need another confinement during that same year.

I've been independent for many years and let me explain something to you:

1) If you're in network most insurance companies don't allow balance billing and that's in writing. That means there's no "UCR" in network.

2) Most insurance companies only allow a MAXIMUM penality for being out of network. That varies but the policies I sell are $1,000 penality. That's it.

3) Every single policy I sell bills clients the in-network rate if they're out of network and it's an emergency.

4) Any client that has a scheduled major procedure will be sent to an in-network facility - like a transplant or major surgery. There's never a time when the client has a scheduled surgery and ends up at an out-of-network facility since the company will only authorize an in-netork facility.

The only time a client will ever be nailed with balanced billing is if they CHOOSE to go out of network and it's not a medical emergecy.

You don't know a single thing about insurance and it's crystal clear you've had no formal training outside of Mega. Your posts and lack of knowledge are actually embarrassing and reminds me of back when I was chugging the Kool Aid.

The problem Pat is you're on the board arguing with former Mega Life managers - like myself - who know in graphic details exactly what's going on. Save your arguments for newbies - not people who's produced millions in premiums for Mega and know the full story.
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#236 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Pat - you still don't get it

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Pat, a client can easily go BK just on the $1,500 drug cap alone. Aside from that they get get slammed with ER charges with that $1,000 cap.

Pat, I was one of Mega's top producers in the country for years. That was until my clients started calling with horrible stories which forced me to take a look at what I was selling - most of which was Premier PPO.

Premier PPO - as you well know, has a horrible penality for being out of network since the OOP changes to $9,000 and the coinsurance is 50% - that's PLUS the deductible PER OCCURANCE!

You also misread the Harvard article. Yes, 75% went BK and had health insurance for two reasons:

1) They lost coverage due to an inability to pay their premiums and the policy lapsed.

2) Their average bill was $12,000. $10,000 in the US triggers a BK for a lot of people.

So how does an out of network Mega PPO claim with a $2,500 deductible solve that Pat? That client would owe $2,500 PLUS $9,000 = $11,500 and that's per-occurance. Hope they don't need another confinement during that same year.

I've been independent for many years and let me explain something to you:

1) If you're in network most insurance companies don't allow balance billing and that's in writing. That means there's no "UCR" in network.

2) Most insurance companies only allow a MAXIMUM penality for being out of network. That varies but the policies I sell are $1,000 penality. That's it.

3) Every single policy I sell bills clients the in-network rate if they're out of network and it's an emergency.

4) Any client that has a scheduled major procedure will be sent to an in-network facility - like a transplant or major surgery. There's never a time when the client has a scheduled surgery and ends up at an out-of-network facility since the company will only authorize an in-netork facility.

The only time a client will ever be nailed with balanced billing is if they CHOOSE to go out of network and it's not a medical emergecy.

You don't know a single thing about insurance and it's crystal clear you've had no formal training outside of Mega. Your posts and lack of knowledge are actually embarrassing and reminds me of back when I was chugging the Kool Aid.

The problem Pat is you're on the board arguing with former Mega Life managers - like myself - who know in graphic details exactly what's going on. Save your arguments for newbies - not people who's produced millions in premiums for Mega and know the full story.
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#237 UPDATE Employee

Major Medical Out of Network?

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

Ken,
Agents are going to tell you what you want to hear as Dallas just said. Dallas, you independent agents do the same thing if not worse. I talk to plenty of people who are NEVER told what would happen if their child had to have cancer, burn, or other high dollar specialized treatment.

Most people want to have complete freedom to choose any doctor, hospital etc anywhere. These kinds of specialized treatments are almost NEVER in main networks. A major medical policy is not the answer in and of itself.

Adding special riders to our plans can give the same coverage as a major medical plan. The base plan is not major medical and THAT ALONE is why they can't be called major medical plans. Our newest plans have equal or better chemo benefits in network with any company. Our out of network coverage KILLS our big competition.

Clients beware of the misinformation from agents including Mega's. But also be aware of misinformation about our products describing some previous plans, and isolated incidents that can be shown with any company.

I have a woman who has been with one of the most well known companies for years picking up Mega's insurance when she retires. Why, because she deals with the headaches, cussing out etc of irate clients who find themselves outside their network and have huge bills that would be a small portion with us in the same scenario. I am extremely thorough and compliant in my presentations, and yet I still have people accuse me of not telling them something. Understand one thing, the beauty of the options and choices Mega offers is turned into a curse by clients not understanding what they are buying.

But I have never seen a more in depth teaching on how insurance works, the dangers, gaps etc and how to close them. After this, if a client feels misrepresented, I have to say at least we try. If someone has had a different experience it is either because the agent was not typical or the client made the agent skip stuff. I will leave a home if I can't go over all I feel is essential.

I know of no other company that spends as much time educating clients. The main issue as to complaints is almost always that the agent is told "we can only afford this much" and some benefit is declined by the client even though THOROUGHLY explained by the agent. Not having this thorough presentation is the exception and not the rule. I hear clients say "you never told me about that" etc and I do so in all my presentations.

Find some happy clients of Mega who have been traveling, found themselves out of network and were blown away by how little they paid out their pockets. Then (in all fairness) talk with some people who have had out of network experiences with every major company and listen to their spewing. They have found their way to several boards on the net.

Every company has their issues. 75% of people who filed medical bancruptcy HAD HEALTH INSURANCE. 75% of the insurance market is not held by Mega. Think about that for a while and look hard at any other company as well. Ask the wonderful independent agents of this world to explain the gaps in their policies. Good luck, because you will look high and low to find one that will. They love to hammer ours though.
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#238 Consumer Suggestion

major medical sold by a non captive agent

AUTHOR: Dallas - (U.S.A.)

Ken, I'm happy you did your due dilligence, and avoided this company. I truely hope others benefit from this as well. In answering your question look for an independent insurance broker...explain to him the kind of coverage you want and tell him you would like him to give you a detailed presentation on his top three recommendations. Make certain you are looking at "major medical" policies only, and read the brochures fully before you make the final decision. If you do not understand the language in the brochure call the company to get clarification, don't ask the agent(he will often say what he thinks you want to hear). Many are very honest, but this method eliminates the chance they may not be telling you the whole truth.


Understand there is no perfect policy, but also understand there are many scams and pretenders. Make sure you see in writing the words "major medical" that alone will eliminate most of the crap because limited hospital-surgical policies (like Mega) cannot legally use "Major Medical" terminology in their description of the plan so it won't be there in writing. Choose the one that fits your needs and budget best. Good shopping, and remember what you read (in a company brochure) is what is fact,not necessarily what the agent says.
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#239 Consumer Comment

I was a potential Mega customer

AUTHOR: Ken - (U.S.A.)

I have to say that reading this "Rip-off" report and subsequent postings have enlightened me. I was approached by a Mega agent last week, listened to the pitch and signed on the dotted line. I am a member of NFIB and spoke to many other NFIB members about this issue. All I can say is that there must be a lot of truth to these complaints about Mega as I heard nothing favorable from any of my NFIB contacts.

I'd have never known the complexity of the task that I had taken on were it not for this forum. I have elected to have my agent not process my policy (within 2 business days of signing that dotted line) based on what I have learned here and on other forums.

I found that Mega typically rates in the top 3 companies regarding complaints made to most of the state Commissioners of Insurance offices websites that I visited.

I have decided that a matter of this importance needs to be fully investigated before signing up for a policy. Reading the banter back and forth on this topic has me concerned whether or not I have the background necessary to make a good educated decision. Can I really trust what any Insurance agent tells me? Can someone lead me to a information resource that is reliable?

So, off I go to continue my education in the land of health insurance. I only hope that I can find a suitable program. Thank you to ALL of the contributors. You may have saved my butt!!
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#240 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Mega pays what it says it will pay, nothing less, nothing more

AUTHOR: Marie - (U.S.A.)

I was with Mega Life and Health and NASE 9 years, licensed in NC, SC and GA.

I am signing a new contract with them in October to go back.

The years I was Mega, there was constant agent training on what Mega pays and what it does and also NEVER to represent the policy as major medical which is a fraudulent representation.

In every state I worked, agents were being taught to explain the policy coverage and leave an outline of coverage with each new insured. In some states like Georgia, that is the LAW! NASE is not be represented as a product that automatically comes with the insurance policy but a product that is available. Also HSA's are available.

When dealing with the self employed, the one thing that is asked for is a policy that will pay for big items, keep the premium low and the insured is willing to pay the out of pocket expenses.

I have Medicare and BC/BS as a supplement and let me tell you right now, both of them do everything they can to get out of paying claims and even after they are paid, there is still plenty of out of pocket expenses to be paid. BC/BS will "sit" on a claim without paying it until I finally have to spend a day on the phone just to get them to do their job.

UCR (usual, customary and reasonable) is the single biggest bad guy in everyone's insurance policies. When they say they pay 100" of UCR, that usually means 50% of the bill. Medicare and BC/BS are both famous for that.

I just wish I could have Mega again. I understood what it would pay and not pay. When you have a greedy agent who just wants to make a sale, they will leave things off your policy just to keep the premium low to make the sale. Chemotherapy and radiation is something that does not cost much in premium and it is left off all the time. Accident coverage is skipped over.

What I am trying to say is, every insurance company is at the mercy of what their agents say. Consumers have a fault in this too. Invariably when I write a policy and explain what was decided on to purchase, most of the time the consumer will leave off the premium for doctor office visit coverage and then call me when Mega doesn't pay for their dr. visit. After explaining to them why they selected to not buy that coverage, they usually have a return of memory.

No, Mega's plan is not the best on the market, and it should never be presented as the best (who could be?). It should be presented for what it is. Mega does have a high end cost policy that pays for practically anything that happens but the premium is also very high end.

Nobody gets more complaints than Blue Cross/Blue Shield in the self employed market. So let's give them all a break and do our own jobs better by making sure we understand ANY product before we put out our good money.

Marie Bennett
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#241 UPDATE Employee

You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

all of our testing riders have deductibles so unless you met your deductible then we should have paid nothing.

I doubt seriously that what you say is true about that claim if we only found $18 of $120 reasonable.

I have thousands of clients and I NEVER hear any of this nonsense from them, in fact i have NEVER seen our company base anything on "reasonable" and thats 15 years of experience.

also you mentioned that detailed bill from above... anyone can put anything they want on here.

did you know that Cream Cheese cures Cancer??

its in print so it must be true Right??? ofcourse not.

You seem to have a vendetta against our company and i sincerely hope that your life is not so bleak that this is your life mission.

I truly wish you all well but this is just a site to bash MEGA and no matter what I say, even with my 15 years of experience and thousands of clients backing up me up it wont matter because everyone here just made it mission to attack our company either out of sheer meanness or the help sell the other plans you offer as brokers.

There are no facts on here just retoric and it wont stop because you all benefit from it.

what happened to professionalism??

I done here, God Bless you all!
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#242 UPDATE Employee

You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

all of our testing riders have deductibles so unless you met your deductible then we should have paid nothing.

I doubt seriously that what you say is true about that claim if we only found $18 of $120 reasonable.

I have thousands of clients and I NEVER hear any of this nonsense from them, in fact i have NEVER seen our company base anything on "reasonable" and thats 15 years of experience.

also you mentioned that detailed bill from above... anyone can put anything they want on here.

did you know that Cream Cheese cures Cancer??

its in print so it must be true Right??? ofcourse not.

You seem to have a vendetta against our company and i sincerely hope that your life is not so bleak that this is your life mission.

I truly wish you all well but this is just a site to bash MEGA and no matter what I say, even with my 15 years of experience and thousands of clients backing up me up it wont matter because everyone here just made it mission to attack our company either out of sheer meanness or the help sell the other plans you offer as brokers.

There are no facts on here just retoric and it wont stop because you all benefit from it.

what happened to professionalism??

I done here, God Bless you all!
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#243 UPDATE Employee

You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

all of our testing riders have deductibles so unless you met your deductible then we should have paid nothing.

I doubt seriously that what you say is true about that claim if we only found $18 of $120 reasonable.

I have thousands of clients and I NEVER hear any of this nonsense from them, in fact i have NEVER seen our company base anything on "reasonable" and thats 15 years of experience.

also you mentioned that detailed bill from above... anyone can put anything they want on here.

did you know that Cream Cheese cures Cancer??

its in print so it must be true Right??? ofcourse not.

You seem to have a vendetta against our company and i sincerely hope that your life is not so bleak that this is your life mission.

I truly wish you all well but this is just a site to bash MEGA and no matter what I say, even with my 15 years of experience and thousands of clients backing up me up it wont matter because everyone here just made it mission to attack our company either out of sheer meanness or the help sell the other plans you offer as brokers.

There are no facts on here just retoric and it wont stop because you all benefit from it.

what happened to professionalism??

I done here, God Bless you all!
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#244 UPDATE Employee

You keep mentioning this $120 claim we paid $18 on...

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

all of our testing riders have deductibles so unless you met your deductible then we should have paid nothing.

I doubt seriously that what you say is true about that claim if we only found $18 of $120 reasonable.

I have thousands of clients and I NEVER hear any of this nonsense from them, in fact i have NEVER seen our company base anything on "reasonable" and thats 15 years of experience.

also you mentioned that detailed bill from above... anyone can put anything they want on here.

did you know that Cream Cheese cures Cancer??

its in print so it must be true Right??? ofcourse not.

You seem to have a vendetta against our company and i sincerely hope that your life is not so bleak that this is your life mission.

I truly wish you all well but this is just a site to bash MEGA and no matter what I say, even with my 15 years of experience and thousands of clients backing up me up it wont matter because everyone here just made it mission to attack our company either out of sheer meanness or the help sell the other plans you offer as brokers.

There are no facts on here just retoric and it wont stop because you all benefit from it.

what happened to professionalism??

I done here, God Bless you all!
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#245 UPDATE Employee

Reasonable Charges??

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

This is my 15th year with MEGA and I have had at least 20 clients suffer with claims over $100,000.

None of those people have ever paid more than $10K of the entire bill.

Since I usually sell a Critical Care plan with most of the plans I sell. at least 15 of the 20 people that had claims over $100,000 actually owed nothing or very little.

So with 15 years of experience with MEGA I can tell you that we are a very solid company and care about our clients very much.

I imagine that my 15 years of experience with MEGA is more time spent with the company than any of you former agents have spent combined.

So the bottom line is we do offer great plans but as with any company it depends on the agent. Do they care about the client and listen to their needs?

We offer plans that allow the client and agent to build programs that fit need and budget.

So lets spend less time here tearing down other companies and more time helping our clients.
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#246 UPDATE EX-employee responds

On the Contrary, Blake! Do you understand that YOU are a captive agent?

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Blake,

You are probably a very nice person (I worked with a lot of very nice people when I was at MEGA). (And I do this only because I was you three months ago so I know where you are coming from.)

Yes, some people are a bit hostile on this board, but the bottom line isn't about bashing--it's about educating. So let me help you with your education.

Do you realize that it is YOU who is biased here? The majority of the non-MEGA or ex-MEGA agents posting work INDEPENDENTLY. That means we do not work for any company. WE are NON-CAPTIVE agents.

You may not understand what that means since you were obviously hired by MEGA with zero health insurance industry experience, as was 99% of all MEGA agents. YOU are CAPTIVE, and therefore a biased agent. Despite the fact that you are an independent contractor, you are working for MEGA alone and have nothing more to offer your clients than MEGA's products.

Your statement "no one is telling the whole story about the companies you all work for," screams your ignorance. An independent agent does not work for a company. We work for our client. I have no loyalty to any company and focus on my client's needs and expectations. You, on the other hand, must convince every one of your clients that MEGA's products are the best out there, or you aren't going to get paid. So who is really looking out for the client's best interest? The non-captive, independent agent that offers dozens of companies, or the captive agent that works for a company claiming to make them rich with stock options, bonus programs and incentive trips.

But wait! There's more! If you took even a moment to educate yourself, you would realize that other programs have copays for things like doctor and ER visits, and you don't have to meet your deductible first. And many companies cover the self-employed 24-7, putting that clearly in writing.

Have you ever even looked at what another insurance company offers? Stop focusing so hard on qualifying for a trip to Reunion and open your eyes. What you are selling people is inferior to what your competition offers. Sorry to destroy the illusion, but that's the truth.

Incidently, I spoke with a Mid-West(sister company to MEGA) client the other day whose husband died of cancer about 6 months ago. Was she raving to me about how great it was that Mid-West was paying her premiums for a year? NOPE. She was telling me how scared she was to be on Mid-West because she is still receiving unpaid bills from her husband's treatment. Free or not, she wants off her Mid-West plan ASAP.

You are right about one thing. No insurance is perfect--it's no secret. I even tell my clients that. My job is to educate them--not convince them, not persuade them. That is the difference between you and me. Of course, this is just my biased opinion.
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#247 Consumer Comment

Reasonable charges explained

AUTHOR: Will - (U.S.A.)

Yes we see above, a very detailed example of what MEGA considers "reasonable". I had personal experience with "reasonable" when I got bills like an $120 lab bill for which Mega thought "reasonable" was $18. That's just one example. I never got a bill where Mega even covered 30% of the actual bill.

Of course they don't explain upfront what their reasonable schedule is, and the vast majority of people would never go to the trouble of sitting down with a list of 500 lab tests and comparing the average in their OWN area with Mega's rate.

That is just ridiculous. If MEGA wants to compete on a level playing field, they should base reasonable on what is actually paid in each county or city for that sort of test or procedure.

But they don't. They probably base it on what the least amount paid is, in the entire country or something. At least in my experience. Their reasonable costs were a joke. No other insurance plan I have EVER been with in 25 years was so ludicrous in what they paid, versus what YOU paid.
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#248 UPDATE Employee

Unprofessional and Biased

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

I have no idea why I am even wasting my time on here but its amazing that 95% of the people on here are either competitors of Mega or former Agents that didn't make it with our company.

Bottom line is "no insurance product is perfect" but consider that no one is telling the whole story about the companies you all work for.

Nearly all plans sold today other than MEGA do the following.

Base Deductible must be met before claims are paid.

With the average deductible of $1,000 that means that basically add $83 per month to your premium because it must be met for your receive the majority of your benefits.

We do not require the base deductible to be met unless you suffer a major illness or accident.

Items with copays do not require you to meet that deductible

Out of Network payouts are based on reasonable charges. Therefore no one that uses 'reasonable" charges in their plan can tell you what you will owe on any type of bill. We cap the out of pocket at $14,000 and that is if every service is performed out of network. it is significantly lower in network. you will never get a straight and correct answer from any company that uses these payout schedules.

Anthem says that if you leave our network they may pay little or nothing of your bill depending on the plan chosen. That makes me feel comfortable!

Many plans exclude coverage on the job leaving the self employed exposed. They shroud this exclusion in legal terms.

Should the primary die, we give the family one free year of coverage and they may keep the plan as long as they want. Who else does that?

Bottom Line this blog is ridiculous exercise in 'BASHING" which is illegal and unethical.

if you didn't like your stay with us then move on.

if you are a competitor then simply tout what your plan offers rather than tearing your competition down.

its this kind of hate mongering that makes people hate insurance agents.

Enough already!
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#249 UPDATE Employee

Unprofessional and Biased

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

I have no idea why I am even wasting my time on here but its amazing that 95% of the people on here are either competitors of Mega or former Agents that didn't make it with our company.

Bottom line is "no insurance product is perfect" but consider that no one is telling the whole story about the companies you all work for.

Nearly all plans sold today other than MEGA do the following.

Base Deductible must be met before claims are paid.

With the average deductible of $1,000 that means that basically add $83 per month to your premium because it must be met for your receive the majority of your benefits.

We do not require the base deductible to be met unless you suffer a major illness or accident.

Items with copays do not require you to meet that deductible

Out of Network payouts are based on reasonable charges. Therefore no one that uses 'reasonable" charges in their plan can tell you what you will owe on any type of bill. We cap the out of pocket at $14,000 and that is if every service is performed out of network. it is significantly lower in network. you will never get a straight and correct answer from any company that uses these payout schedules.

Anthem says that if you leave our network they may pay little or nothing of your bill depending on the plan chosen. That makes me feel comfortable!

Many plans exclude coverage on the job leaving the self employed exposed. They shroud this exclusion in legal terms.

Should the primary die, we give the family one free year of coverage and they may keep the plan as long as they want. Who else does that?

Bottom Line this blog is ridiculous exercise in 'BASHING" which is illegal and unethical.

if you didn't like your stay with us then move on.

if you are a competitor then simply tout what your plan offers rather than tearing your competition down.

its this kind of hate mongering that makes people hate insurance agents.

Enough already!
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#250 UPDATE Employee

Unprofessional and Biased

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

I have no idea why I am even wasting my time on here but its amazing that 95% of the people on here are either competitors of Mega or former Agents that didn't make it with our company.

Bottom line is "no insurance product is perfect" but consider that no one is telling the whole story about the companies you all work for.

Nearly all plans sold today other than MEGA do the following.

Base Deductible must be met before claims are paid.

With the average deductible of $1,000 that means that basically add $83 per month to your premium because it must be met for your receive the majority of your benefits.

We do not require the base deductible to be met unless you suffer a major illness or accident.

Items with copays do not require you to meet that deductible

Out of Network payouts are based on reasonable charges. Therefore no one that uses 'reasonable" charges in their plan can tell you what you will owe on any type of bill. We cap the out of pocket at $14,000 and that is if every service is performed out of network. it is significantly lower in network. you will never get a straight and correct answer from any company that uses these payout schedules.

Anthem says that if you leave our network they may pay little or nothing of your bill depending on the plan chosen. That makes me feel comfortable!

Many plans exclude coverage on the job leaving the self employed exposed. They shroud this exclusion in legal terms.

Should the primary die, we give the family one free year of coverage and they may keep the plan as long as they want. Who else does that?

Bottom Line this blog is ridiculous exercise in 'BASHING" which is illegal and unethical.

if you didn't like your stay with us then move on.

if you are a competitor then simply tout what your plan offers rather than tearing your competition down.

its this kind of hate mongering that makes people hate insurance agents.

Enough already!
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#251 UPDATE Employee

Unprofessional and Biased

AUTHOR: Blake - (U.S.A.)

I have no idea why I am even wasting my time on here but its amazing that 95% of the people on here are either competitors of Mega or former Agents that didn't make it with our company.

Bottom line is "no insurance product is perfect" but consider that no one is telling the whole story about the companies you all work for.

Nearly all plans sold today other than MEGA do the following.

Base Deductible must be met before claims are paid.

With the average deductible of $1,000 that means that basically add $83 per month to your premium because it must be met for your receive the majority of your benefits.

We do not require the base deductible to be met unless you suffer a major illness or accident.

Items with copays do not require you to meet that deductible

Out of Network payouts are based on reasonable charges. Therefore no one that uses 'reasonable" charges in their plan can tell you what you will owe on any type of bill. We cap the out of pocket at $14,000 and that is if every service is performed out of network. it is significantly lower in network. you will never get a straight and correct answer from any company that uses these payout schedules.

Anthem says that if you leave our network they may pay little or nothing of your bill depending on the plan chosen. That makes me feel comfortable!

Many plans exclude coverage on the job leaving the self employed exposed. They shroud this exclusion in legal terms.

Should the primary die, we give the family one free year of coverage and they may keep the plan as long as they want. Who else does that?

Bottom Line this blog is ridiculous exercise in 'BASHING" which is illegal and unethical.

if you didn't like your stay with us then move on.

if you are a competitor then simply tout what your plan offers rather than tearing your competition down.

its this kind of hate mongering that makes people hate insurance agents.

Enough already!
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#252 UPDATE EX-employee responds

A response from my former district mngr

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

Todd, I just read your information on the rip of report.com. If you had concerns about your leads, all you had to do was pick up the phone and talk to me. Apparently, since you haven't done this type of sales before, you don't really get how it works.

The leads you had we're B leads, like the cheap car salesman explained to you in training. A "B" lead is a previously worked lead and like I told you it could have been 6 weeks, 6 months or 6 years old. Its a name and a number.

The bottom line with those types of leads is for me to detect your ability to be successful in this job. It is to detect if you have the ability to make appointments off of a cold call. It is to detect if you have the drive to make mailers to the addresses that have disconnected phone numbers, or to ask for referrals from someone who wasn't in need of coverage. It was your test to see if you could actually function as a self employed contractor with our company and not be a waste of time.

Once you would have made appointments, like the other 2 in your training class have off the same leads. XXX-6 and YYY-7. This shows me they have the drive and the possibility of being successful. That along with the fact they call me every day with questions. Once you would have proved that you actually have some drive and ability, then you would have gotten the "fresh" A leads that I pay for.

Why would I invest money in you when you haven't shown the ability to do this job? You are not an employee. You are an independent contracted agent who is supposed to be building your own business. It's obvious from the report that you were trying to blame your failure on the B leads rather than looking at yourself and what you did wrong. Not calling, asking questions and asking for more leads. Appointments don't just appear, and if you don't have appointments you don't get business.

The saying goes, the squeaky wheel gets the oil, and you didn't even squeak. (I can't believe that one hour of calling 50 leads really showed you how to do this job.) It is good you found out early that you would have not been successful.

Good luck with your new company. I have hired 3 reps from there in the past month who have the same complaints you outlined about us on the net, only they weren't new there, that was their regular leads for the year or plus that they were with the company. You'll see that in sales organizations, but you would never have been spoiled more than here if you actually would have been able to do this job.

It is obviously not in your personality and no 6 week training course is going to train you how to work like you need to in a sales job. It's about personality and how good the product is. We work hard so we can play hard and make a lot of money to live the lifestyle we're entitled to. Thank you for not wasting my time.

I find it amazing that she knew of this site. Any thoughts?
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#253 UPDATE EX-employee responds

commission structure

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

The UGA commissions depend on the product and whether or not you're a senior agent. But since that $150,000 is in their ad let's take 15% commish. Let's also forget that you'll only see about half of that if you choose to take the advance and say you go as-earned.

To make $100,000 for the year at 15% commission you need to have submitted, placed and kept on the books for 12 months $700,000 of business.

If 80% of everything you submitted lasted 12 months (which is very generous) you would need to submit about $900,000 of volume. UGA currently have about 10 people in the entire country capable of doing those numbers.

So to post an ad like that is cruel and deceptive. If a division manager did the math on every single rep hired over an entire year and how many of them submitted $18,000 a week every week for a 12 month period of time it would be from 0% to .0001% of everyone they hired.

Heaven forbid you choose the advance with the debt account. The reality is even if you do $500,000 for the year of placed business at 15% with a 6 month advance you only have about $40,000 actually in your pocket.

To put $100,000 actually in your pocket with choosing an advance and 15% commish you'd need to have about 1.5 million submitted which would put you in the top 2 or 3 reps in the country.

But what's the actual reality? If they hired 20 people 15 wouldn't write a deal, with 5 left 4 of them would struggle to turn in $5,000 a week and one "might" turn in $10,000 a week....then quit.
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#254 UPDATE EX-employee responds

UGA - A Salesperson's Dream..

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

This is from an actual posting on monster

A Salesperson's Dream
Job Description

A Salesperson's Dream

Take charge of your sales and marketing career. We seek hard-working individuals with a desire for true opportunity.

UGA redefines the standard for success as we serve America's small business owners and self-employed individuals. We believe the achievements of our company inherently depend on the accomplishments of our representatives across the country, so we developed a company culture that places the achievement of our representatives above all else. This uncommon approach has attracted people from all walks of life, helping them achieve their dreams.

If you have experience in customer service, sales, marketing, public relations or management, you may have what it takes to be part of the UGA team. You will call only on business owners and others who have requested to see you.

Earning potential:
- Up to $150,000 or more on commission as a rep
- Up to $400,000 or more on commission as a leader

Even more benefits:
- Immediate cash weekly
- International vacations
- Up to 12 bonus opportunities per year
- Stock ownership
- Lifetime vesting
- Retire comfortably in 10 years

UGA offers a lifetime of personal rewards. It's not just a dream it's your new career.

Contact UGA today and begin a fulfilling and rewarding career.

This position is relevant for applicants with experience in the following fields: customer service, financial, insurance, sales, marketing, advertising, public relations, retail, entry level, commission sales, supervisor, management, manager, medical, healthcare, business, business development, information technology, administrative, support services, call center


They don't even tell you what they sell or who they really are; all you get to see is the UGA acronym. In fact, all this company has are acronyms for names...UGA, MEGA, NASE, AFS, UICI. Any legitimate company would put their name right out front for all to see, but they have so many names, I guess they couldn't figure out which one to display!
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#255 UPDATE EX-employee responds

just one more thing...

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

One thing I forgot. At the Aflac interview, I asked about training. There is a 6 week training program...yes, SIX weeks. Not the 3 day quickie from UGA. Tell me, MEGA/UGA/NASE agents, who's legit here? After 3 days, do you really know what you're selling? I don't think so. And field training was supposed to be once or twice...still not enough information to make an honest sale...just enough so you could regurgitate the crap you were fed at the 3 days in the office!
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#256 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Now, to the real stuff...

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

Well, I just got back from an interview with Aflac...a 'real' interview with the office manager. I wasn't recruited 'on the spot' like I was with UGA/MEGA (like I said, alarms should have gone off here as well, I wasn't even really interviewed, just recruited). I had a real sit down, one on one interview and was told after the interview that a decision would be made next week about who would be hired...not just a quick 'welcome aboard' like I got at UGA.

To Pat, from Cabot, Arkansas, I'm sure you work your butt to the bone with the 'quality' leads you get from your district manager! Most of mine were completely worthless...some with no phone numbers! How the hell are you supposed to call someone if there isn't a phone number!!!

If you enjoy spending hours every day making calls with an 'I'm sorry, but the number you have dialed has been disconnected, please hang up and try the number again.' crap, have at it! I need to get out and see clients so I can get paid so I can feed my family!
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#257 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I lost track Pat....

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Sorry Pat, I lost track; which company are we talking about again:

PLF/Mega Life/Mid-West/UICI/HealthMarkets/UGA/Cornerstone/NASE/AFS

I tend to lose track of which name they use. I'm more used to Aetna, United Healthcare, Blue Cross - you know; companies that don't change their name every few years or hide behind associations.
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#258 UPDATE Employee

Back To The Past

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

Todd,
Good luck. I wish I could chat with you and share my story. I have been hugely successful in my short time with Mega. I have worked my butt off though and most agents don't. The problem is that agents who don't make it with Mega USUALLY don't anywhere on their own.

I said usually. Most independent agents die on the vine. It is very difficult to get started. I know TONS, including Mega. There are more sources to get leads etc, but they are expensive. I can make a very good living without having to by ANY leads. You have to work your tail off to start with Mega and then you can buy leads, market etc. Again, good luck.

To the other agents who didn't stay with Mega. You have a balance with any other company you sell for and then leave as well. I know, I went through that as an INDEPENDENT AGENT. I owned my own company. Now as for the numbers that were just displayed on the chemo, outpatient therapy, and other, only one of them applies on the new HealthMarkets plan I sell.

Prescription drug coverage has its limitation. But, if you are going to tell a new agent info that effects his or her decision to start with a company. MAKE SURE IT IS ACCURATE. How about a 1 million dollar benefit for cancer/chemo or radiation therapy where the client pays deductible and coinsurance max at either 70% or 80/20? That my (quick to look at old plans) friends is the way the new plan I sell works. And that is per sickness up to 5 million dollars. The other thing I and other Mega agents get sick of hearing is how great your friend was taken care of by other companies. We can produce those kinds of stories as well.

One of our clients just brought in a $22,000 bill and had no deductible, no coinsurance and paid $269 out of pocket. That is the power of any PPO repricing. Do you know how big the line is of people who didn't get taken care of by their insurance company? I have a friend who went through a 2.5 million dollar bankrupty because they didn't pay a DIME. Most every day I hear people cuss the names of Blue Cross and every other company out there, including Mega. I have others who think their provider is divine. The old Mega plans left some gaps with some clients.

Other companies' plans have as well. But quit going after the character and ethics of we agents who do care about our clients, have been on both sides of the fence and feel we offer the best. Attacking an agents character is ilegal in every state and every one of you know that. Find legitimate problems in the HealthMarket plans. Then, lay what you sell out on the line and let us do our own COMPARING. Those of you who are looking at Mega and reading these boards, study the plans for yourself.

Don't let anyone tell you that any companies' plans are good or bad without being able to understand why.
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#259 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Thank you Amy

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

First of all, I sent in a resignation letter to my division manager, certified mail w/ return receipt.

Secondly, I called the people I was supposed to see and told them that I couldn't sell for this company. They asked why and I directed them google 'MEGA Life' and 'lawsuit'. I just said that I couldn't, in good faith, sell this stuff. They thanked me very much and said goodbye.

When I went to the intial interview/ seminar/ infomercial (Don LaPre style), I was told that they had so much business that they didn't know what to do w/ it all and that there would be leads'a'plenty. My 'training' lasted only 3 days. We even went to a regional training session for a 4th training day in Philadelphia so MEGA could introduce their new products. Sounded more like a Ronco infomercial (you know 'set it and forget it!') than a business meeting. The regional manager should be doing infomercials anyway...or maybe selling used cars..

I should have known this was a load of crap when I went to the 'interview'. There were three others with me. Who does a 'group' interview anyway? I got an email from my district manager that was also sent out to the other two people who trained with me. She was wondering why she didn't hear from anyone and why there were no appointments set up so she could field train us. Duh! How about giving me some of the fresh leads I was promised! One guy I called said he contacted NASE/ MEGA/ UGA/ UICI/ Healthmarkets/ Blackstone/etc..(Will the REAL company name please stand up!) THREE, yes three years ago! What the hell? Half of them had disconnected numbers or they had just moved on. I guess the B leads are just a 'little' outdated here!! Out of 101 leads, I could only get ONE appointment. What a waste of my time. So much for the leads'a'plenty!

My district mgr. even said to email her to get more leads if I couln't set up any appointments. Yeah right! I'll be wasting another whole day making useless phone calls when I could be looking for a real job with a legitimate agency!

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#260 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Todd, Cancel That Appointment!!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Todd,

Cancel that appointment. The last thing you want to do is start selling their products because then you will be in debt to the company like so many of us ex-MEGA agents out there.

Dust yourself off from this MEGA scary experience and open up the Yellow Pages today. Call insurance agencies in your area and find a new home. The best scenario is to find an agency that offers many carriers. Ask the General Agents lots of questions about their experience and what companies they carry. If they only sell for one carrier such as MEGA, Mid-West, United American or any other company you have never heard of, hang up. You do not want to be a captive agent to any of these companies.

Find an agency that lets you get paid directly from the companies you sell. (In Florida there are a handful of carriers that will only pay to an agency. My GA lets us see the statements from these companies when they come in so we know everyone's cut--he hides nothing from us.) All the other carriers I write for pay me directly.

Good luck and keep us posted!
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#261 UPDATE EX-employee responds

PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You're right Pat, you don't have to worry about balanced billing with Mega Life. Because after $1,500 of medication the client pays all of it. After $2,000 per day of lab, therapy the client pays all of it. After $1,000 of ER benefit the client pays all of it.

Yep - no problem there. Client gets put on $400 per month of medication they just get a letter from Mega "you have exceeded your benefit limit."

Oh, same with chemo - no worries about balance billing there either. Exceed the limit and client pays everything.

Now Pat, my best friend has stage four Non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Chemo is over and he's in remission. However, he's on two shots per week of medication to boost him immune system. The shots are $1,500 a piece and are done outpatient.

So what do you tell him? "Sorry, you get one shot and your benefit is over." By the way, he's on a Blue Cross plan, has had the cancer for 2 years and so far he's paid a total of $2,500. That's it. On a Mega plan he would have already lost his house.
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#262 UPDATE EX-employee responds

PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You're right Pat, you don't have to worry about balanced billing with Mega Life. Because after $1,500 of medication the client pays all of it. After $2,000 per day of lab, therapy the client pays all of it. After $1,000 of ER benefit the client pays all of it.

Yep - no problem there. Client gets put on $400 per month of medication they just get a letter from Mega "you have exceeded your benefit limit."

Oh, same with chemo - no worries about balance billing there either. Exceed the limit and client pays everything.

Now Pat, my best friend has stage four Non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Chemo is over and he's in remission. However, he's on two shots per week of medication to boost him immune system. The shots are $1,500 a piece and are done outpatient.

So what do you tell him? "Sorry, you get one shot and your benefit is over." By the way, he's on a Blue Cross plan, has had the cancer for 2 years and so far he's paid a total of $2,500. That's it. On a Mega plan he would have already lost his house.
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#263 UPDATE EX-employee responds

PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You're right Pat, you don't have to worry about balanced billing with Mega Life. Because after $1,500 of medication the client pays all of it. After $2,000 per day of lab, therapy the client pays all of it. After $1,000 of ER benefit the client pays all of it.

Yep - no problem there. Client gets put on $400 per month of medication they just get a letter from Mega "you have exceeded your benefit limit."

Oh, same with chemo - no worries about balance billing there either. Exceed the limit and client pays everything.

Now Pat, my best friend has stage four Non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Chemo is over and he's in remission. However, he's on two shots per week of medication to boost him immune system. The shots are $1,500 a piece and are done outpatient.

So what do you tell him? "Sorry, you get one shot and your benefit is over." By the way, he's on a Blue Cross plan, has had the cancer for 2 years and so far he's paid a total of $2,500. That's it. On a Mega plan he would have already lost his house.
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#264 UPDATE EX-employee responds

PAT - YOU'RE RIGHT

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

You're right Pat, you don't have to worry about balanced billing with Mega Life. Because after $1,500 of medication the client pays all of it. After $2,000 per day of lab, therapy the client pays all of it. After $1,000 of ER benefit the client pays all of it.

Yep - no problem there. Client gets put on $400 per month of medication they just get a letter from Mega "you have exceeded your benefit limit."

Oh, same with chemo - no worries about balance billing there either. Exceed the limit and client pays everything.

Now Pat, my best friend has stage four Non-Hodgkins lymphoma. Chemo is over and he's in remission. However, he's on two shots per week of medication to boost him immune system. The shots are $1,500 a piece and are done outpatient.

So what do you tell him? "Sorry, you get one shot and your benefit is over." By the way, he's on a Blue Cross plan, has had the cancer for 2 years and so far he's paid a total of $2,500. That's it. On a Mega plan he would have already lost his house.
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#265 UPDATE Employee

Somebody help me!

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

I just recently signed on with MEGA aka NASE aka UICI aka UGA and now I'm pretty scared reading this stuff! I have my first appointment scheduled for Thursday night and I think, after reading all of these horror stories, I'm going to cancel it. Can anyone help me out?
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#266 UPDATE Employee

No Fish Hook Here

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

Maybe some of the agents use the tactics you mentioned. Maybe some of the agents work 10 years to produce 10k AV. Maybe, you still have not addressed ANY of the statements I made about our new plans. I had an agency. I think you are blind to that fact. I know the other plans and know how they pay.

They also don't offer a stock plan etc. I don't heavy hand people. I give them options based on their budget. I NEVER load up ancillary items etc. to make a check. I put some riders on almost all of my plans that I get paid nothing. Maybe you were around a group of people who looked out for number one. I happen to look out for my client. They will quickly vouch for this if you spoke with them.

I also will go back and meet a second time (or more) and in fact just did tonight. The arguments still address older plans and experiences. As far as taking advantage of the laziness of people not wanting to shop--three fourths of medical bankruptcy filers had health insurance.

I don't think people shopped too well. Don't you dare tell people that we imply that if someone doesn't go with us, their house will fall in on them. I wish to end the idiocy of this back and forth banter by letting you know this FACT. I have a client who works in the claims department of a major competitor of ours.

When she retires she is going to sign on with me for one main reason. SHE NEVER WANTS TO DEAL WITH BALANCE BILLING due to the reasonable and customary gap created. She gets cussed at every day and all she can do is tell people to read their policy better. That my blind friends is what shopping and studying has done for the general public. Do you THOROUGHLY EXPLAIN how balanced billing works and make clear what would happen to your client if they go out of network for specialized care or because they are traveling?

I have a far harder time accepting the deception with this than any TACTIC some agents use to get a sale. By the way, I relationship sell and use NO TACTICS. I do very vehemently insist I meet with people. I don't take a Chilton manual and read it while my mechanic works on my car. I don't read a medicine journal while having surgery. I become an expert in insurance to my clients in just the same way.
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#267 Consumer Comment

Pat from Cabot your opinion rings hollow

AUTHOR: Will - (U.S.A.)

Pat from Cabot, Arkansas, it would really help you to achieve credibility in your opinion of Mega if you didn't use words like "amazing" and "awesome".

I never thought when I first started this thread (see far above, I am the guy who started it) that it would generate so much feedback.

I especially appreciate the comments comparing it to other plans. I have a Blue Shield plan now by the way and it is head-and-shoulders above Mega both in terms of what it pays for and in terms of the price.

I'm just so glad I didn't have a major illness while on Mega. Years ago (before Mega) I had had a hospital stay and the total bill was about $25,000. I paid about $4,000 of that, my insurance at the time paid the rest. I really shudder to think what kind of bill I'd be stuck with if I'd had Mega at that time (which I didn't).
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#268 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Really?

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

The entire sales process is heavy-handed and depends on clients who are too lazy to do their homework.

Let's review the sales process:

1) Call client. Don't send any info, just book the appointment. Avoid any and all questions with "you have a lot of choices and it's too much to go over on the phone." Client asks for info? Get into "it's way to much to send."

2) Show up, present confusing options. Scare client into thinking that if they choose another company a house will fall on them, then sign them up after the client gets about 2 to 3 seconds to think about it. Remember that the goal is to get the check since you're paid on submit. Is this health insurance sales or a time-share presentation?

3) Client says they want to think about it for a few days. Launch into a disertation about how busy you are and you can't come back. Client has no opportunity to research the company or products. Get mad. How dare they actually want to do research! If they actually do research you won't get that advance you need!

4) Don't present all the products. That'll just confuse them and you won't get the sale.

5) Load the plan up with ancillary products. After all, that gets you those QPC points you need for contests and more pay.

6) Remember that premier membership people don't need. After all, you want more of an advance and those NASE semi-annual bonuses. You'd never want to do anything like give them the basic membership and more health benefits. That lowers your pay.

7) Remember that weekly AV - after all, numbers are all your manager cares about since they live off overrides. Oh, your division manager lives off those overrides, as does your regional manager.

8) Question: Does UGA still pay the least commission on their better products thereby pushing agents to sell their more limited plans?

So you bust your butt to write a deal and:

District manager gets a cut
Division manager gets a cut
Regional manager gets a cut

Wow - I guess that's why you have to run around the field for 10 years struggling to submit $10,000 a week to get a check.

If I submit $10,000 for the week I make $2,500. How much would you make? I also get 7% renewals. What's your renewal? Oh - much less since three people above you get overrides off your renewals too. Great company.

But then again they give you about 60 exclusive qualified fresh leads per week, right? Guess not. Chances are you're cold-calling B lead lists or doing most of your own marketing like buying leads.

Get the fish hook out of your mouth.

Oh, well - get back to work. A lot of people above you need gas for their Mercedes. Hey, these wouldn't be the same people giving you all your info would they?
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#269 UPDATE Employee

Mega Life and Health 2006 (HealthMarkets)

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

As a consumer, be aware of opinions. There is a tremendous amount of ignorance spouted about this company. If you live in a state that offers the new HealthMarkets plans; check out the CareOne suite of products. As far as the heart and ethics of the company; ask hurricane victims from last year what it was like to receive a letter that they would have 90 days of premiums waved to help them in their recovery. Ask the COUNTLESS foundations that this company gives to what kind of people make up this company. Don't listen to an agent who didn't stay with the company long at all, or even necessarily those who were with them for an extended stay. I have owned my own agency and sold for several companies. They all have flaws in them, but if sold properly, in my opinion, the newest Mega plans are second to none. Don't let other agents go back to older plans when you look at this awesome company. The most popular feature of Mega's plans is out of network care. However, there are some procedures you just don't want to have done out of network. One of them, (the one almost always argued by our competition) is the limited chemo benefit. That benefit with repricing (IN NETWORK) is plenty sufficient. That limitation has changed with newer plans anyway. The other area agents love to slam is emergency room pay. Sorry, but that has changed as well. Go out of your network with the most popular companies and see how much you end up spending. All the major companies make you pay anything that is not part of their "allowable amount." Mega is the only company I have found that doesn't determine what is allowable as relating to individual plans. Some of Mega's plans were weaker in some ways, but the biggest issue was how agents sold them or how the customers understood them. In most cases, it was not unethical behavior on the part of an agent. Agents most often sold what the client could afford. I can tell you from experience that clients often don't fully understand what they are buying. I am EXTREMELY thorough in explaining the options. The main argument other agents use against Mega is having multiple deductibles. It was and still is designed to allow clients to have smaller deductilbes that were separate from the main plan deductible. This is a GREAT THING! Would you rather have an accident related outpatient MRI and have all of the cost applied to your plan deductible (in other words you pay 100% out of your pocket) or pay a $0-$100 deductible for an accident related MRI and have the insurance company pay up to $1800 as is the case with Mega's Premiere PPO? That is the beauty of a separate deductible not the curse. Just ask around and see now many people malign ALL health insurance companies. They are an easy target. Other people think their company they are insured by is the greatest. Experiences vary and it doesn't make any difference what company. I can provide the horror stories for just about any company that some agents have with Mega. As far as all the agents slamming Mega; I have been independent, owning my own agency, was not brainwashed and love the company and its mission. Please look at Mega 3rd quarter 2006 and beyond. By the way, Mega is an amazing company to work for. It gets better all the time. It is not an easy business, but self starters can plan for a nice future. Do you like the idea of a plan that offers convenient first dollar doctor visit coverage with NO COPAY, coinsurance or deductilbe? It can happen. With Mega.
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#270 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim - you're wrong - - you're instrumental in leading people into possible bankruptcy

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

Jim, you can post until your blue in the fact but here' some facts that you cannot refute:

1) You haven't spent one hour in the insurance field before UGA.

2) Your district didn't spend an hour in the insurance field before UGA.

3) Your division manager didn't spend an hour in the field of insurance before UGA.

Therefore no one you're talking to knows anything about health insurance. Have your managers been formally trained on Assurant, Golden Rule, Blue Cross, Aetna, CGI, Amer Rep, Unicare, Humana, World, etc...? No.

So without any formal training how in the world can you possibly compare Mega's plans and rates to others?

You're currently getting 100% on your knowledge from managers who make money off you. Not a great source of information.

You want to look at nasty articles about other companies? Try Mega by Googling them:

"mega nase scam"
"mega life lawsuit"

Go ahead and read about how many people lost their homes on Mega coverage. Pull up the Sacremento Bee article (google "mega life sacremento bee) and read about how great that daily chemo cap is. Google "it's enough to make you sick" and read again about how great Mega's plans are.

Then realize that you're instrumental in leading people into possible bankruptcy. And I've seen the new plans. Hardly anything has changed and you know it.
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#271 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jim, Thanks for the head's up....MEGA still doesn't have annual deductible!!!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Jim, Thanks for the heads up on MEGA's new product that is going to put all of us independent agents out of business and make us all jealous and wish we were MEGA agents. (That's sarcasm, folks)!

I am sorry Jim, but you seem like a very honest, ethical person and it would benefit you to become an independent agent. Your arguments don't hold true in my state of Florida. I, too, thought that MEGA was the least expensive option out there with the best programs because that is what my MEGA managers told me.

After several months with MEGA and seeing the quotes my prospects were getting from other companies, I realized MEGA isn't cheaper and the programs aren't better. The new product you and Chris keep talking about is not going to be better than your competitors. It may bring it closer to the standards of coverage other companies already have in place, but I can assure you it won't be cheaper. And, SURPRISE, it still doesn't have an annual deductible.

Based on the current plans offered, let's look at similar (I say that tongue-in-cheek) programs through MEGA and xxxx( company name redacted by ROR))). This is one of many carriers I now offer as an independent agent.

For example:

A typical, healthy, family of 4 in Orlando, Florida.

xxx 35 plan is $408.35(that's standard rates without a preferred health discount)

MEGA's Premier PPO plan is $571.36(that's with an access membership which I was instructed never to sell, no ancillary products and as close to the same coverages as I could get)

Let's compare Apples to Artichokes:

DEDUCTIBLE

xxx--$2500/person annually (max 2 times/year per family)

MEGA--$2500/period of confinement (max 3 times/year family)

COINSURANCE AND MAX OUT OF POCKET

xxx--80/20 up to $3000 plus deductible ($5500)

MEGA--70/30 up to $4500 plus deductible ($7000)

ER VISITS

xxx--$500 first-dollar benefit for accidents then 80% after deductible, $100 additional copay for illnesses if not admitted

MEGA--$100 copay for accidents up to $600 first-dollar benefit, then 70% after deductible, NO COVERAGE FOR ILLNESS UNLESS ADMITTED INTO THE HOSPITAL (see my previous entry on Aug. 12 about this limitation)

DOCTOR VISITS

xxx--$35 copay unlimited visits

MEGA--$20 copay for up to 2 visits per adult/ quarter, 4 for childen, but limits benefit to $75/visit

PRESCRIPTIONS

xxx--$20 copay Generic; $50 copay Namebrand after $250 deductible

MEGA--$15 copay Generic; $30-45 copay Namebrand after $250 deductible (max benefit $1500/year)

CHEMOTHERAPY

xxx--80% after deductible

MEGA--70% after deductible limited to $1000 per day

OUTPATIENT TESTING

xxx--80% after deductible

MEGA--70% after $500 deductible limited to $1000 per day

I could go on and on, but you do the math. For $160 less per month you can have a better program with fewer restrictions and limitations and less overall out of pocket.

In fact, that same family can get the tax benefits of an HSA with 100% coverage after their 1 family deductible of $2100 is met for under $500 per month. That still beats MEGA's 70/30 plan by over $70/month.

This is a comparison with only one other company. There are hundreds of other programs out there!!!

And guess what, MEGA is not the only company that is putting a new program out. All carriers restructure their programs regularly which just gives the independent agent the opportunity to place their clients with the most competative option. I have many Major Medical options to offer my clients from multiple carriers. The MEGA agent has one. So who is really helping their client to customize a plan for their family?

It is not bitterness that motivates me to spread the word about MEGA--it's decency. Most MEGA agents do not deserve to be called names or ridiculed. There are bad agents in every company, but, unfortunately, I saw several bad leaders at MEGA that were training their entire team to be deceptive and irresponsible agents.

Moreover, it is the product that lacks credibility. A good agent with a bad product is what it is. You may be able to sell it, but it still stinks.

To Laura, and those of you looking for a new home after MEGA, be very careful. You can search job websites, classifieds and even call agencies in the yellow pages. Just make sure you ask what companies they offer and if you have to be a captive agent. If they only offer one company that you have never heard of, or they tell you that you have to come in for an interview to find out more, hang up and call someone else. Do not sign a captive agent contract unless it is with a reputable company and you have done your research.

Sorry to be so long winded.
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#272 Consumer Comment

Dodged a bullet

AUTHOR: Art - (U.S.A.)

As I was preparing to attend my "interview" with UGA/MEGA, I, as a normal course of preparation, was doing my due diligence by researching MEGA. I stumbled across this website and was astounded by what I read. My thanks to those of you who had taken the time to write, particularly John from Des Moines and Mark from Cedar Rapids. I called and cancelled my appointment. My wife appreciated it, too.

Art - Des Moines
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#273 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

I would like to offer some clarity on the postings above as I see it in regards to the products Mega / Midwest has had to offer in the past.

I was not charged any fee to join the company. My checks are not from personal accounts of my field leader. I am sure there are some dishonest leaders out there and your stories are true. But it is like a car dealership. Because the salesman lied, it does not mean the owner or the manufacturer condones it. They may not know. Report the liars to the company so we can weed out the bad seeds and fill the positions with honest individuals. Look inside your own companies. Are there less than honest people there? The answer is yes.

As far as the products are concerned, are there companies with better products? In my opinion, Absolutely. Are there gaps in our products? Certainly. Would it be great if everyone had full coverage with no out-of-pocket? yes.

One thing about Mega, we offer the opportunity for the customer to customize their plan. As with any free choice, this can be good or bad. No customer that gets cancer ever remembers declining the Chemo & radiation rider, even if you told them 100x of the danger. It is never their fault, it is the agents, so you have to look at those complaints with a grain of salt. Of course there are dishonest agents who do not disclose the dangers.

I am not one of them.

The reality is, not everyone can afford policies like that and something is better than nothing. Look at GM. Why don't they just make Cadillacs? Because some people can only afford Saturns. Sure it does not have all the bells & whistles, but it is sufficient. In insurance, we are in business because some of the competition do not offer plans as affordable as us. Plain and simple.

I think all of us would agree some coverage is better than none at all. I explain the limits. I over explain the limits. I have lost sales by over explaining due to confusion or the customer electing another company, but I am ok with that. I make sure they know exactly what they are getting.

With that said, I believe the company heard all of you and made changes.

We have new products coming out this month that address each issue you have listed.
- No max on Chemo. & Radiation
- max out of pocket = $4,000 + deductible.
- Deductible is by occurance and good for 365 days, on a rolling basis not a calendar year. Can you incur more than 1 deductible per year? Yes. But look at the premium savings we offer per month compared to the competition. If I save a family of 4 $300 per month (realistic amount) and they have to pay the deductible 3x that year, I still saved them $600. It is not creative math or spinning it in anyway, it is simple math.
- Less riders and more services included to prevent customers from under-insuring themselves.
- Increased pay out rates for services.
- More medical conditions covered
- Preventative testing is covered
- The ability to have all POV and testing covered at 100%
- Less expensive premiums than our options offered today.

I had a competitor's product until recently. It was better than what Mega had and I could afford it at the time. I was a customer of theirs for years. The competitor's premium was $344.55 per month for an individual PPO policy with $0 deductible. It was the best product they had to offer at the time. I had 2 surgeries in the last year for the same issue. One in October and one in May. All together, they were about $4500 each. I had to pay about $450 for each. So I paid about $900 for $9000 of service. Not bad at all.

If I had Mega's product, I would have paid $1000 deductible, then 20% of the costs from there, or about $1600. Total bill would be $2600.
At first glance, the other guy looks a lot better. Except when you consider, Mega's policy would cost $155 per month less and save me $1860. That is retail, not including agent discount.

By paying the additional premium, the out-of-pocket costs are actually less with Mega.
Another point. If I did not need the surgeries or only needed one, my out-of-pocket cost would have been considerably less with Mega. I still paid an additional $1860 in premiums, whether I needed it or not.

This example I stated is actual and real based on my own experience. I am not trying to sell my company to anyone on this site because you have already made up your minds. I am just pointing out that changes have been made. Things are not as bad as some stated or as good as others have stated. It is about free choice.

If you were a customer and feel that you were wronged, I do empathize with you and hope you get your issues rectified.

If you are a past employee with an axe to grind, move on with your life. It is not healthy to be bitter. For some reason this company did not work out for you. If you are in a better situation, be happy. This company is the "better situation" for many good people.

I hope you see this as an honest entry. I am not blowing the companies horn nor I am I blasting the past employees. I am trying to offer an honest assessment of my own experience.
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#274 UPDATE Employee

Independent Agent

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

Well - it is certainly a relief to know that I may not have to pay those advances back. Thanks for the information.

You don't have to tell me specifics if you don't want, but are you now an independent agent representing many different companies? I'm not sure where to look for information as to how to become an independent agent or the steps to take. Any advice?
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#275 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Just be careful with the debt, though

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Amy is correct, according to your contract you can have 1 year of premiums applied to your debt, then have the remainder applied to your taxes. However, if the business does not stay on the books, you could be holding a large debt. One of the big reasons I got out is I had 5 policies cancel within 8 days. Some were new apps, some were a few months old. Once the customer started seeing sites like this, they were spooked and bolted (not that I blame them). The sooner you get out and let the 1 year of commisiions start adding up, the better you will be.
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#276 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Don't stress about paying them back

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Laura,

Don't stress about paying back your advances. By contract 95% of your 1st year's commissions will be credited to your debts on account. It took almost a month for me to be processed off of UGA's books, and even then you will have access to watch your debt with them through their website. As long as your policies stick to their books, you won't have an issue. Once you find a new company to start making an honest living with, you will realize that the little debt you incurred with Mega no longer matters. Good luck and keep us posted.
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#277 UPDATE Employee

Clean Break

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

I appreciate all of the above comments - this has certainly helped me feel that I am not alone in having serious doubts about being a Mega agent. I have been selling for just over 3 months, and have now realized that 1 sale/week does not equal $80K/year. There have been so many red flags, I feel ashamed to have ignored them for this long. I am concerned about leaving because I can't afford to pay back advances. Do any of you have advice about preventing this from happening?
Thanks!
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#278 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Waste of time and money

AUTHOR: L - (U.S.A.)

I also am a recent victim of this scam! I luckily was able to bail out before my first sale, though I still can't get over how stupid I was to fall for this in the first place.

When I had my first appointment with a potential customer and I was told by my manager what to say and what not to say and basically I was told to fudge the app to get the sale.

Long story but I knew right then this was a bad scene. Not to mention what was told to us during training and what was told by the managers were completely different.

The thing that really burns me up the most about these managers and agents is how they do not feel they are scamming people..come on! They all make up "company names" for themselves, ie: John Doe Insurance Co and their voicemails and interactions with the consumer leads one to believe these are real companies when their licenses do not reflect that.

From what I learned from the licensing exams, being licensed as an individual, yet misrepresenting yourself to the public as a non-existent insurance company is a violation right there.

The other comical thing is they tell you to make cold calls and not say you are with Mega, or NASE or AFS but that you are an "insurance advisor" and never let on until you visit them that the insurance is Mega. The other thing is the tear off sheets that they want you to put in public areas. Who the @#$% would buy health insurance from an individual whose flyer sits near a flyer for a yard sale!

I went on the bbbonline and looked up Mega in Texas, supposedly corporate office and found exactly what I expected, a negative report. Wish I found that months ago!
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#279 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Waste of time and money

AUTHOR: L - (U.S.A.)

I also am a recent victim of this scam! I luckily was able to bail out before my first sale, though I still can't get over how stupid I was to fall for this in the first place.

When I had my first appointment with a potential customer and I was told by my manager what to say and what not to say and basically I was told to fudge the app to get the sale.

Long story but I knew right then this was a bad scene. Not to mention what was told to us during training and what was told by the managers were completely different.

The thing that really burns me up the most about these managers and agents is how they do not feel they are scamming people..come on! They all make up "company names" for themselves, ie: John Doe Insurance Co and their voicemails and interactions with the consumer leads one to believe these are real companies when their licenses do not reflect that.

From what I learned from the licensing exams, being licensed as an individual, yet misrepresenting yourself to the public as a non-existent insurance company is a violation right there.

The other comical thing is they tell you to make cold calls and not say you are with Mega, or NASE or AFS but that you are an "insurance advisor" and never let on until you visit them that the insurance is Mega. The other thing is the tear off sheets that they want you to put in public areas. Who the @#$% would buy health insurance from an individual whose flyer sits near a flyer for a yard sale!

I went on the bbbonline and looked up Mega in Texas, supposedly corporate office and found exactly what I expected, a negative report. Wish I found that months ago!
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#280 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Waste of time and money

AUTHOR: L - (U.S.A.)

I also am a recent victim of this scam! I luckily was able to bail out before my first sale, though I still can't get over how stupid I was to fall for this in the first place.

When I had my first appointment with a potential customer and I was told by my manager what to say and what not to say and basically I was told to fudge the app to get the sale.

Long story but I knew right then this was a bad scene. Not to mention what was told to us during training and what was told by the managers were completely different.

The thing that really burns me up the most about these managers and agents is how they do not feel they are scamming people..come on! They all make up "company names" for themselves, ie: John Doe Insurance Co and their voicemails and interactions with the consumer leads one to believe these are real companies when their licenses do not reflect that.

From what I learned from the licensing exams, being licensed as an individual, yet misrepresenting yourself to the public as a non-existent insurance company is a violation right there.

The other comical thing is they tell you to make cold calls and not say you are with Mega, or NASE or AFS but that you are an "insurance advisor" and never let on until you visit them that the insurance is Mega. The other thing is the tear off sheets that they want you to put in public areas. Who the @#$% would buy health insurance from an individual whose flyer sits near a flyer for a yard sale!

I went on the bbbonline and looked up Mega in Texas, supposedly corporate office and found exactly what I expected, a negative report. Wish I found that months ago!
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#281 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Waste of time and money

AUTHOR: L - (U.S.A.)

I also am a recent victim of this scam! I luckily was able to bail out before my first sale, though I still can't get over how stupid I was to fall for this in the first place.

When I had my first appointment with a potential customer and I was told by my manager what to say and what not to say and basically I was told to fudge the app to get the sale.

Long story but I knew right then this was a bad scene. Not to mention what was told to us during training and what was told by the managers were completely different.

The thing that really burns me up the most about these managers and agents is how they do not feel they are scamming people..come on! They all make up "company names" for themselves, ie: John Doe Insurance Co and their voicemails and interactions with the consumer leads one to believe these are real companies when their licenses do not reflect that.

From what I learned from the licensing exams, being licensed as an individual, yet misrepresenting yourself to the public as a non-existent insurance company is a violation right there.

The other comical thing is they tell you to make cold calls and not say you are with Mega, or NASE or AFS but that you are an "insurance advisor" and never let on until you visit them that the insurance is Mega. The other thing is the tear off sheets that they want you to put in public areas. Who the @#$% would buy health insurance from an individual whose flyer sits near a flyer for a yard sale!

I went on the bbbonline and looked up Mega in Texas, supposedly corporate office and found exactly what I expected, a negative report. Wish I found that months ago!
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#282 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wise choice Freddy

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Glad you are no longer going through with this, Freddie. I did lose 6 months of my life (and thousands of dollars, and some sanity) For all the current agents and managers, yes I was able to sell. It wasn't until a week or two after I sold the policy that they would call and cancel, they found new insurance (actually, they found sites like this and were scared spitless). Freddy, you have your licenses. There are plenty of brokers who need licensed agents. Go for it.
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#283 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wise choice Freddy

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Glad you are no longer going through with this, Freddie. I did lose 6 months of my life (and thousands of dollars, and some sanity) For all the current agents and managers, yes I was able to sell. It wasn't until a week or two after I sold the policy that they would call and cancel, they found new insurance (actually, they found sites like this and were scared spitless). Freddy, you have your licenses. There are plenty of brokers who need licensed agents. Go for it.
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#284 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Wise choice Freddy

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Glad you are no longer going through with this, Freddie. I did lose 6 months of my life (and thousands of dollars, and some sanity) For all the current agents and managers, yes I was able to sell. It wasn't until a week or two after I sold the policy that they would call and cancel, they found new insurance (actually, they found sites like this and were scared spitless). Freddy, you have your licenses. There are plenty of brokers who need licensed agents. Go for it.
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#285 UPDATE Employee

Wonderful Information

AUTHOR: Freddy - (U.S.A.)

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post there thoughts here. I am currently in the process of obtaining my Life license in California, mostly because I was like many others who fall prey to these people and think its a wonderful opportunity, almost too good.

After much skepticism and investigation I still decided to go through the "interview" process and paid for my background and set-up fees.

As most of the agents they hire I have no insurance background but I do have some sales experience and small business background so I understand what it takes to succeed in this type of business. That being said I though it strange when we we're bein offered "free, fresh" leads, as well as not being told specifics of the products we would eventually being sold until after we obtained our license and signed our exclusivity with the aforementioned. After being in the required pre-licensing classes I learned these were not general practices as most people paid for leads and many people represented several companies so as to be able to offer a wide array of policies which would best suit the client.

So after finishing my pre-licensing classes and now preparing for my state licensing exam I have again come to my informational source to search out the truth about the company I may be working for. I had no intention of ever selling insurance until I was contacted through careerbuilder.com from these guys, and the thought of helping people get health/life insurance, especially in my state (and btw I don't have health insurance and I know the importance) was a very gratifying thought. And from what I know I and what I've read I can see why nobody would want to sell or ever buy from these people.

I would again like to thank everyone who contributed to this, you have saved me at the least, 3-6 mos. of my life that I will never get back. (Not to mention any grief I may have received to those people had I been unlucky enough to sell policies to. I do believe though that any insurance is better than no insurance, but the sales tactics of half-truths, while not lying, is very deceptive and it hurts real people and no amount of money can ever fix that.) I can now pursue other companies, or talk to another recruiter I know. So I say thanks for your honesty and candor.
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AUTHOR: Freddy - (U.S.A.)

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post there thoughts here. I am currently in the process of obtaining my Life license in California, mostly because I was like many others who fall prey to these people and think its a wonderful opportunity, almost too good.

After much skepticism and investigation I still decided to go through the "interview" process and paid for my background and set-up fees.

As most of the agents they hire I have no insurance background but I do have some sales experience and small business background so I understand what it takes to succeed in this type of business. That being said I though it strange when we we're bein offered "free, fresh" leads, as well as not being told specifics of the products we would eventually being sold until after we obtained our license and signed our exclusivity with the aforementioned. After being in the required pre-licensing classes I learned these were not general practices as most people paid for leads and many people represented several companies so as to be able to offer a wide array of policies which would best suit the client.

So after finishing my pre-licensing classes and now preparing for my state licensing exam I have again come to my informational source to search out the truth about the company I may be working for. I had no intention of ever selling insurance until I was contacted through careerbuilder.com from these guys, and the thought of helping people get health/life insurance, especially in my state (and btw I don't have health insurance and I know the importance) was a very gratifying thought. And from what I know I and what I've read I can see why nobody would want to sell or ever buy from these people.

I would again like to thank everyone who contributed to this, you have saved me at the least, 3-6 mos. of my life that I will never get back. (Not to mention any grief I may have received to those people had I been unlucky enough to sell policies to. I do believe though that any insurance is better than no insurance, but the sales tactics of half-truths, while not lying, is very deceptive and it hurts real people and no amount of money can ever fix that.) I can now pursue other companies, or talk to another recruiter I know. So I say thanks for your honesty and candor.
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Wonderful Information

AUTHOR: Freddy - (U.S.A.)

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post there thoughts here. I am currently in the process of obtaining my Life license in California, mostly because I was like many others who fall prey to these people and think its a wonderful opportunity, almost too good.

After much skepticism and investigation I still decided to go through the "interview" process and paid for my background and set-up fees.

As most of the agents they hire I have no insurance background but I do have some sales experience and small business background so I understand what it takes to succeed in this type of business. That being said I though it strange when we we're bein offered "free, fresh" leads, as well as not being told specifics of the products we would eventually being sold until after we obtained our license and signed our exclusivity with the aforementioned. After being in the required pre-licensing classes I learned these were not general practices as most people paid for leads and many people represented several companies so as to be able to offer a wide array of policies which would best suit the client.

So after finishing my pre-licensing classes and now preparing for my state licensing exam I have again come to my informational source to search out the truth about the company I may be working for. I had no intention of ever selling insurance until I was contacted through careerbuilder.com from these guys, and the thought of helping people get health/life insurance, especially in my state (and btw I don't have health insurance and I know the importance) was a very gratifying thought. And from what I know I and what I've read I can see why nobody would want to sell or ever buy from these people.

I would again like to thank everyone who contributed to this, you have saved me at the least, 3-6 mos. of my life that I will never get back. (Not to mention any grief I may have received to those people had I been unlucky enough to sell policies to. I do believe though that any insurance is better than no insurance, but the sales tactics of half-truths, while not lying, is very deceptive and it hurts real people and no amount of money can ever fix that.) I can now pursue other companies, or talk to another recruiter I know. So I say thanks for your honesty and candor.
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AUTHOR: Freddy - (U.S.A.)

I would like to thank everyone who took the time to post there thoughts here. I am currently in the process of obtaining my Life license in California, mostly because I was like many others who fall prey to these people and think its a wonderful opportunity, almost too good.

After much skepticism and investigation I still decided to go through the "interview" process and paid for my background and set-up fees.

As most of the agents they hire I have no insurance background but I do have some sales experience and small business background so I understand what it takes to succeed in this type of business. That being said I though it strange when we we're bein offered "free, fresh" leads, as well as not being told specifics of the products we would eventually being sold until after we obtained our license and signed our exclusivity with the aforementioned. After being in the required pre-licensing classes I learned these were not general practices as most people paid for leads and many people represented several companies so as to be able to offer a wide array of policies which would best suit the client.

So after finishing my pre-licensing classes and now preparing for my state licensing exam I have again come to my informational source to search out the truth about the company I may be working for. I had no intention of ever selling insurance until I was contacted through careerbuilder.com from these guys, and the thought of helping people get health/life insurance, especially in my state (and btw I don't have health insurance and I know the importance) was a very gratifying thought. And from what I know I and what I've read I can see why nobody would want to sell or ever buy from these people.

I would again like to thank everyone who contributed to this, you have saved me at the least, 3-6 mos. of my life that I will never get back. (Not to mention any grief I may have received to those people had I been unlucky enough to sell policies to. I do believe though that any insurance is better than no insurance, but the sales tactics of half-truths, while not lying, is very deceptive and it hurts real people and no amount of money can ever fix that.) I can now pursue other companies, or talk to another recruiter I know. So I say thanks for your honesty and candor.
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#289 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Congratulation, A!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

It's great to hear about another Mega Agent coming to their senses. Don't be afraid to go out and find a new agency that will give you the opportunity to work as a non-captive agent. You will feel so much better when you have control over what you sell and how you sell it. You really will be helping people and you won't be afraid to bump into your clients at the grocery store after you sell them a policy. Keep us all posted here with your progress...
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#290 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Congratulation, A!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

It's great to hear about another Mega Agent coming to their senses. Don't be afraid to go out and find a new agency that will give you the opportunity to work as a non-captive agent. You will feel so much better when you have control over what you sell and how you sell it. You really will be helping people and you won't be afraid to bump into your clients at the grocery store after you sell them a policy. Keep us all posted here with your progress...
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NAIC info from State of MD

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

www.mdinsurance.state.md.us/documents/megalife8-12-04.pdf

this link is the review to the MD state insurance commissioner. Go to page 66 for an overview, and you will see the number of violations, JUST IN THE STATE OF MD!! Some claims not paid for over 600 days? more than 1/2 of claims not paid with in 30 days? Come on, people!
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#292 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Bravo, Amy, bravo

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

Very, very true, Amy. I have gone back over the info given to me by my manager. The "techniques" I was given were by the top sales leaders in UGA, so I figured they must be something. I was told to direct the conversations and that questions should not come up if I was doing my job correctly. I was also told to offer a return trip to see the client when they received their policy. That way, I could explain what was so confusing to them again. When I brought up the fact that I was told to only set foot in a clients house or business once, because if I had to go back they would be more likely to cancel, I was told that people would not take me up on my offer, it would just reassure them, and if someone did book a follow up when they had their policy, to just be soooo busy that I wouldn't have time for a few weeks (then they would forget about it, because 2 weeks is past the 10 day free look). I quit today,and I feel great, even with not having another job lined up. I just felt too embarassed to continue selling a product that will screw people, whether they know the caps and understand them or not.
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MEGA Agent Chris from Atlanta, How dare you call me lazy!!!

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Chris,

I find it interesting that you claim that you "are told not to bad mouth other companies and in fact another company bad mouthing us is the easiest way to replace that company," when in the previous paragraph you claim that "most of the people critizing MEGA are lazy brokers who wants to just sit around a desk instead of going to see the client, or ex agents who just couldnt cut it in sales." Is that not bad mouthing?

I was NOT a lazy agent when I worked for MEGA and am still not a lazy agent now that I am non-captive and independent. When I was with MEGA I spent 12-20 hours on the phone every week booking appointments and another 20-30 hours seeing them. I think by anyone's standards, that is not laziness.

The reason I was not top in my Quick Start class was because I answered every question my clients asked me with honesty and integrity and helped them compare MEGA with other programs they were looking at. I got chastised from my MEGA leaders for this because I was losing sales. When I started to see what else was out there, I started to get embarassed about what I was offering to people and realized I wanted to be able to give people real choices from reputable companies.

I do not need to bad mouth Mega or Mid-West products in order to convert a client. The proof is in the product. Mega agents snow people into thinking no other company offers their "Mega Difference." Guess what? The "Mega Difference" is a Mega joke. Almost every other major medical company offers the same benefits in their policies and they guarantee their rates for 12-months, too.

But you probably never realized this, Chris, because you have never really compared your products to others, have you? And if you have, you would obviously gloss over the fact that other companies limit the loss a client will face in a given year, while Mega will only stop the loss per incident.

When you say things like "There is a very good stop loss max on our main selling policy," it is obvious you have no idea that your policies really don't have an actual stop loss.

Chris, if I called everyone of your clients up tomorrow, I would only have to ask a few questions and point out a few details to show them the holes in the program you sold them, and I don't have to say one negative thing about your company. No matter how nice you were to them, they will be embarassed that they were so foolish and did not ask the right questions.

What would happen if you take your child to the ER in the middle of the night for an ear infection and racked up a $1000 bill?

Answer--It would be 100% out of pocket because your ER coverage is for accidents only and the smallest deductible Mega offers is $1000 per incident.

What if the child gets sick again in the middle of the night next week, or next month, or in 3 months?

Answer--Out of pocket, out of pocket, out of pocket!

Guess what, Chris? This situation was exactly what was asked of me by my last Mega prospect. She had to take her child to the ER 4 times in one year for various serious illnesses that started in the middle of the night. Obviously, she didn't like my answer.

Guess what my leader suggested I tell this woman when I asked for advice? First, he told me I needed to adjust my sales presentation to avoid getting such crazy questions because I must be doing something wrong.

When I pressed for an actual answer instead of a way to avoid the question, he told me she should have found a 24-hour urgent care clinic to take the child to because then they only would have had a $20 copay.

I am sure parents have nothing better to do than drive around at 3 AM to find an open clinic when there is a hospital right down the street. Incidently, the nearest in-network 24-hour clinic to these folks was a good 30-mile drive. I checked.

So $1000 at a time might be frustrating, but what happens when hopitalization is $10K at a time. But this is unlikely to ever happen right? That's what I was told by my Mega leaders. But isn't that why we need health insurance? To cover the unforseeable?

If MEGA has such impressive products, why are they one of the few companies out there that don't allow a non-captive agent to sell their plans? I'll tell you why. Because an independent agent has hundreds of other plans to compare it to and no savy agent would even waste their money for an appointment to a company with programs they will never sell.

Chris, I have no animosity (or jealousy) for you, only pity. Leonard said you are a nice person, which I am sure you are. I worked with a lot of nice people at Mega just like you. You are not a bad person, just misguided and close-minded. You have to be willing to see the truth in order to accept it.

Good luck with your career, and I hope you never have to deal with a client devastated by what you sold them.

And to all the other Mega Agents out there that are starting to see the light, do not be afraid or embarassed to get out. Your experience at Mega will just make you a better, more well-informed independent agent. So find a new home and start really helping people!!!
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#294 UPDATE EX-employee responds

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AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

I was once a MEGA rep. After 8 months I was let go. The reason? I wasn't selling enough insurance policies. I guess it was because I took time to explain to potential customers everything. I had to laugh when I was fired or "let go" as they call it. It's not like MEGA or NASE or anyone else paid me if I didn't make a sale.
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AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

I was once a MEGA rep. After 8 months I was let go. The reason? I wasn't selling enough insurance policies. I guess it was because I took time to explain to potential customers everything. I had to laugh when I was fired or "let go" as they call it. It's not like MEGA or NASE or anyone else paid me if I didn't make a sale.
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AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

I was once a MEGA rep. After 8 months I was let go. The reason? I wasn't selling enough insurance policies. I guess it was because I took time to explain to potential customers everything. I had to laugh when I was fired or "let go" as they call it. It's not like MEGA or NASE or anyone else paid me if I didn't make a sale.
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AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

I was once a MEGA rep. After 8 months I was let go. The reason? I wasn't selling enough insurance policies. I guess it was because I took time to explain to potential customers everything. I had to laugh when I was fired or "let go" as they call it. It's not like MEGA or NASE or anyone else paid me if I didn't make a sale.
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#298 UPDATE Employee

Oh my word

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I have been with MEGA for 5 months now. I left my other job because I was constantly babysitting employees. I guess I should have stayed, because now I am running around the state picking up the broken pieces after other agents.

First, if I sell you a rotten fish, and you buy it, I guess it sucks to be you. However, if I sell you a rotten fish, but first pour bleach or lemon juice over itand hide the fact it is rotten, sucks to be me. I tell my clients up front what they wil pay, and instead of giving large ($100,000) claims and what they would pay, I give them reasonable ($5-15,000) claims and what they would pay. I was wondering why my sales weren't as good as I was told they could, should, and better be. I don't know, maybe I was too honest? Divulging too much info about the plans?

It is August 8 today, just yesterday I signed a lady who liked what she saw, and I explained the deductible and everything that was in small print (I guess I have too much of a conscience). I got a call this morning from her, telling me she wanted to cancel, because a friend told her she would be sorry for the purchase (inevitably, it was the 3rd such situation in the past month, and what ultimately led me to this site). Her friend works as a medical biller and sees what types of claims come through and how they are paid.

For someone looking to buy this product, sell this product, or anything in between - Talk to doctors, medical billers, the people who work in the office of your doctors. Go to the state insurance commissioner, and DON'T STOP THERE!

I got sick to my stomach when a friend said he needed a policy for a few months. Thankfully he didn't need to use it, and is now insured with another company. I know all the arguements given by managers, how people thik what they want and don't listen to what they are told. Yeah?? Still don't believe us? Go ahead and go through the initial interviews. Request a quote online, and when a MEGA agent calls you (it will be MEGA, Mid West, Tenn Valley, because no one else has responded to me or my clients when we search), get to know them and go to the weekly "hoopla" meeting. Ask the agents how long they have been there (ask the ones who are not managers - anyone there for about 2 years will get an office to try to expand the company, thus becoming a manager and sucker). Just remember, someone is always being sold.

Where was this site when I searched in February? I would have saved myself a lot of tears and a boatload of money I spent to pursue what I thought was my dream.
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Thank God I Found This Site In Time

AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

I was practically days away from quitting my current job and going to work for UGA, Healthmarkets, MEGA, whatever they are called. It's a good thing I didn't pay the so called "sign-up fee" either.

I was involved with the group "interview" where they were trying to sell their company. I sat through the presentation and also had the individual interview afterwards. I asked the District Manager straigt up if this was to good to be true. All of the money and trips that they promise you, I have been fooled before and this was looking very shady.

He told me that same stuff about HOPE (Helping Other People Everyday) and they were actually helping small business owners. Not knowing very much about insurance I'm glad that I stumbled onto this site. I actually looked up UGA before the interview and couldn't find any bad responses but when I googled for MEGA it was one of the first pages to come up. (WEIRD) Different names?? Why??

When I updated my information on Monster.com I was contacted again by a script and an e-mail after I was already there for the so-called interview. So they must have an auto-responder set up to try and get as many people as possible. I was actually sent some leads today to try and set some appointments for my general manager because I haven't been to training (sounds like brainwashing) and have not passed the license test.

I would just like to thank all of you that posted your remarks about your experience with this company and preventing me from making a huge mistake. I am a moral person and would have never forgave myself for selling people lies. My mother died of cancer and if our insurance company would have pulled this crap on us we would be still be bankrupt. It looks like I will be staying at my current job until I find something better. I would still like to look into the insurance industry, where is a good place to start??
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AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

I was practically days away from quitting my current job and going to work for UGA, Healthmarkets, MEGA, whatever they are called. It's a good thing I didn't pay the so called "sign-up fee" either.

I was involved with the group "interview" where they were trying to sell their company. I sat through the presentation and also had the individual interview afterwards. I asked the District Manager straigt up if this was to good to be true. All of the money and trips that they promise you, I have been fooled before and this was looking very shady.

He told me that same stuff about HOPE (Helping Other People Everyday) and they were actually helping small business owners. Not knowing very much about insurance I'm glad that I stumbled onto this site. I actually looked up UGA before the interview and couldn't find any bad responses but when I googled for MEGA it was one of the first pages to come up. (WEIRD) Different names?? Why??

When I updated my information on Monster.com I was contacted again by a script and an e-mail after I was already there for the so-called interview. So they must have an auto-responder set up to try and get as many people as possible. I was actually sent some leads today to try and set some appointments for my general manager because I haven't been to training (sounds like brainwashing) and have not passed the license test.

I would just like to thank all of you that posted your remarks about your experience with this company and preventing me from making a huge mistake. I am a moral person and would have never forgave myself for selling people lies. My mother died of cancer and if our insurance company would have pulled this crap on us we would be still be bankrupt. It looks like I will be staying at my current job until I find something better. I would still like to look into the insurance industry, where is a good place to start??
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AUTHOR: Andy - (U.S.A.)

I was practically days away from quitting my current job and going to work for UGA, Healthmarkets, MEGA, whatever they are called. It's a good thing I didn't pay the so called "sign-up fee" either.

I was involved with the group "interview" where they were trying to sell their company. I sat through the presentation and also had the individual interview afterwards. I asked the District Manager straigt up if this was to good to be true. All of the money and trips that they promise you, I have been fooled before and this was looking very shady.

He told me that same stuff about HOPE (Helping Other People Everyday) and they were actually helping small business owners. Not knowing very much about insurance I'm glad that I stumbled onto this site. I actually looked up UGA before the interview and couldn't find any bad responses but when I googled for MEGA it was one of the first pages to come up. (WEIRD) Different names?? Why??

When I updated my information on Monster.com I was contacted again by a script and an e-mail after I was already there for the so-called interview. So they must have an auto-responder set up to try and get as many people as possible. I was actually sent some leads today to try and set some appointments for my general manager because I haven't been to training (sounds like brainwashing) and have not passed the license test.

I would just like to thank all of you that posted your remarks about your experience with this company and preventing me from making a huge mistake. I am a moral person and would have never forgave myself for selling people lies. My mother died of cancer and if our insurance company would have pulled this crap on us we would be still be bankrupt. It looks like I will be staying at my current job until I find something better. I would still like to look into the insurance industry, where is a good place to start??
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#302 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Leonardo IS right.

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

When I started working with Mega, I made a couple of friends who were nice and honest people just wanting to do the right thing. I have opened my eyes since then and left the business. My friends unfortunately have not. The level of brainwashing that they are subjected to on a daily basis is just amazing.

Chris, You will be back on this site when you open your eyes. I too was here not too long ago defending mega...until I opened my eyes.
Sooner or later you will really hurt someone and I hope you get out of this before it is too late. The mere fact that you were here checking this out is an indication that you are a good person trying to do ther right thing. Listen to your friends or ex co-workers that have left.

Becoming a broker is the right decision. Of course at the office, you are brainwahsed into thinking that they are lazy but it really is not the case. As a broker you still have to work very hard because the hardest part of this job will be to generate enough appointments every week for you to close some of them. As a broker,Closing the sale will be a breeze...instead of a nightmare. Help yourself,do some research, don't just look at this website...there are so many more of them out there. There is no smoke without fire. Yeah sure, ALL insurance companies will have their share of problems, actually, ALL MAJOR companies will have lawsuits and the like against them but the MEGA story is just totally unique and different!
lies:
"we are the only company that let you taylor design the plan to fit your needs and budget."
NO THEY ARE NOT!
Lies:
"With us, you can't be singled out for rate increase or cancellation"
TRUE. But THAT IS THE CASE FOR 99%of MAJOR INSURANCE COMPANIES.
lies:
"Diabetics are uninsurable and so are people with major pre existing conditions such as heart attacts, so you are better off selling them a "stand alone" which is better than nothing.
MAJOR BS. THERE ARE INSURANCE PLANS FOR DIABETICS AND EVERYONE ELSE WITH PRE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
" we pay usual and customary. The company does not decide what is reasonable"
THE PLANS ARE DESIGNED NOT TO PAY ANYTHING SPECIALLY THE HEALTH CHOICE DISADVANTAGE. THERE IS NO NEED TO DECIDE WHAT IS REASONABLE OR NOT. 100% OF NOTHING IS STILL NOTHING.
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#303 UPDATE EX-employee responds

just read it! no one here is trying to bash a competitor...and no one here is "jealous"...

AUTHOR: Dallas - (U.S.A.)

Good job Leonard... I believe it is important to keep this thing going and atleast get possible clients and agents thinking before they buy/sell... Seriuosly, no one here is trying to bash a competitor...and no one here is "jealous"...hell Mega Managers will hire anything that has a pulse...any of you who work for them have surely seen that, if it were such a good policy then the company wouldn't require you to be captive to sell it...it would stand on its own like all the other credible companies do...As an agent you have the responsibility to be well informed and offer true protection for your clients...

Don't fall for the load of crap the managers feed you about "usual and customary", "power of the association's numbers" "cancellation", ect. They are using industry buzz words to brain-wash you...MEGA is the very worst when it comes to delivering on the promise...Read the Policy...and read the policies of major medicals in the industry...none of them are perfect...and as an honest agent it is important for you to share the bad as well as the good with your clients... problem is that most MEGA agents do not know the bad about they're product. When was the last time your manager told you to be sure and tell your clients that chemotherapy treatments are capped at $1000 per treatment???, and that most treatments run between 7-10 thousand dollars every two weeks for six or more months...do you think someone fighting for their life VS cancer really needs to find out how crappy this plan is by being presented with a 60-100 thousand dollar bill???

Please...the people in here are sharing their experiences with you to help keep you from making a huge mistake...I encourage anyone whom might have doubts as to the motives of the negative comments here go to other third party sources; as well as question the printed words in your brochures with your managers...don't be lazy its your a*s and integrity on the line out there...they will turn their back on you in a heartbeat when claim time comes trust me...don't let them make you into a liar!!

This web site is an open forum...try typing Time Insurance, AMS, Golden Rule, John Alden, Companion, Empire and search... Think there might be a reason none of them have any postings, not to mention several like MEGA...yeah there is a reason...I still can't believe that 60 minutes or some other news magazine has not picked up on this company... Whether you are thinking of buying it or selling it... I hope I have helped you to atleast question it...ultimately everyone has to live with their own decisions!!!
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#304 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Chris - I worked with you a couple months ago....wake up bud

AUTHOR: Leonard - (U.S.A.)

Chris - you are brainwashed bud. I remember you and i know you are a nice guy, but trust me - you are 110% wrong. Most of the posts you are reading here are true. Yeah - there are plenty of uneducated idiots here, but I am not one of them, and I think you know that. Patrick is completely brainwashed as well, and he will never admit the truth. It would be crushing...

Your policies have alot of gaps and limits. They won't pay squat for cancer treatment, yet you go in and start talking about how mega covers the big things like cancer. You're lying to them pal. You don't realize it - but you are lying, and you're going to hurt these people when they need the policy.

Chris - be a broker. It makes no sense to do what you are doing. Sell all the policies, not just one!! You'll get paid more - trust me. You'll have more freedom and you'll really be working for yourself. Open your eyes....get out of mega.
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#305 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Debora - (U.S.A.)

I've read the negative comments regarding Mega Life and Health and am so glad my family and I have cancelled our policy with Mega and gone with a reputable company.

My experience for the last couple of years with Mega has been that we paid a lot of money for almost no coverage. It sounds good at the start but you soon find out that Mega limits everything. You may pay a small co-pay for a drs visit. But you will receive a bill from the doctor because Mega pays very little on the remainder.

Thank God we left Mega when we did. I would hate to think what would have happened to us financially if we had a serious illness.

Deb-Fern Park, FL
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#306 UPDATE Employee

again

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

As i said in my previous responses, most of the people critizing MEGA are lazy brokers who wants to just sit around a desk instead of going to see the client, or ex agents who just couldnt cut it in sales. Give me a break. There is a very good stop loss max on our main selling policy. Complaints are from state to state because we are nationwide, in ga our satisfaction is very high. We are a ever growing company and constantly upgrading our coverage. We actually cut our prices last yr unlike most others out there that raise their premiums.

As a previous lady said, bad mouthing is very unprofessional and most sensible people see through that. We are told not to bad mouth other companies and in fact another company bad mouthing us is the easiest way to replace that company. MEGA has its own marketing staff, no brokers. You guys are JEALOUS because you cant lump MEGA into one of your plans. We have products coming out this yr that will beat you down more than we are doing right now.

I'm a very proud of the company and what its trying to do. Keep up the bad mouthing. You reap a lot more than you sow.
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#307 Consumer Comment

Thanks to those who contributed to this discussion, you saved me a crummy experience!

AUTHOR: Amber - (U.S.A.)

I received an email from a recruiter from UCI and was suspicious because of their offer of an interview and immediate orientation-they had't even met me yet! The appointments they requested seemed odd as well, since one of my two choices was well after normal business hours. The statement that the average person earned $75,000-$100,000 annually was also a red flag. I am glad that I came here and found confirmation before wasting my time and attending this "interview". Any company that wants you to pay them to work for them is bad news. Keep these things in mind while looking for employment next time. Unfortunately, there are a lot of snakes out there.
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#308 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Very well thought out Amy

AUTHOR: Leonard - (U.S.A.)

Hi Amy - I was a rep just like you only a few months back. I realized the same exact things over just about the same time frame. Don't feel bad about falling for this scam, it is extremely well devised, and if you see what they want you to see, you are blind to the truth. Intelligent and independent people like yourself eventually see what they DON'T want you to see, and if you have any concience, you have no choice but to leave.

On your way out, you won't be able to convince anyone about the lies you have uncovered. Most of them are desperate, ignorant, or both. They are usually old and can't find work, or young and stupid, or just ignorant like us with basically no concept of the insurance industry. The second you start to "poison" others, the DM will go into all out damage control mode to make you look very bad. He'll break out every lie in the book, and those desperate souls will sadly believe the DM, until they themselves wake up, or go broke, or hurt someone badly by misrepresenting the policy and it's coverages.

You absolutely need to get out right now. To make a clean break - go to the office and sit down with your DM. Tell them everything you told us, and make them face the ugly truth about themselves (even though they will fight you tooth and nail - it will hurt them inside). And lastly tell them don't even think about trying to collect any premiums back from you, as you have collaborative proof (with other agents) that they trained you to lie, misrepresent, and mislead customers about their insurance products. They will deny it, but they know the truth. You wont hear another word about it from them. Then, they will get right to damage control, and will be forced to eat any of your unearned advances (from cancellations or turned down policies) on their own statement. They could try and come after you, but if you let them know that you are not afraid to fight and expose their racquet, they won't take the chance. Dont feel bad about sticking the DM - they earned it...

Then walk away..and don't look back. Come back to this website once in a while and educate people. It will help to make up for the damage that was caused by the few policies you did sell...

Good Luck
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#309 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I TOO AM A RECENT VICTIM

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

I worked with the company for about 6 months before realizing how big of a scam they are. I went to training at least 2 times a week at the Tampa office before I finally opened my eyes. Actually it was one of my clients that I sat down with for 5 hours and compared 4 different policies from insurance companies. (One of them being that crap they call health choice).

After that I investigated more and more,placed a few phone calls, even consulted with a lawyer. Oh my God! I feel so bad for the other agents in the office scaming people in the area without even realizing it. Since I am no longer with the company and out of the insurance business period, I will make sure to contact all my previous clients and let them know, after I apologize to them, that they should look up a well known company and get coverage that is more suitable to their needs.

Lucy I know you are reading this but what goes around comes around. What you guys are doing overthere is WRONG. It is a big scam and you know it. You are taking advantage of all the agents at the office and it is plain wrong.
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#310 UPDATE Employee

MEGA Lies, MEGA Deceives

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

Thank you John from Des Moines for sharing your professional expertise. I have been an AFS and MEGA field rep for the past 3 months and should have listened to my gut from the beginning. You have confirmed everything that I knew in my heart but couldn't confirm until recently.

My first clue should have been the initial phone call from the Division manager in which he avoided all of my questions about what I would be selling by resorting to a canned spiel about how AFS uses a strength in numbers concept to provide over 100 benefits to the self-employed, blah, blah, blah. Since I had been self-employed for over 4 years and had just sold my business, I was intrigued by what he said, went for the interview and was hired on the spot.

To be honest, I thought at first that I was being hired to sell memberships for AFS simply because he glossed over the health insurance part during the interview. It was the secretary that clued me in and explained that I would have to get an insurance license, pay a $250 "set-up" fee, etc., etc. Clues number 2 and 3 I guess, but, again, I didn't listen to my gut.

Clues number 4-10 occured over the next few months during our weekly training meetings. In a nutshell, here's how they taught me and my colleagues how to lie and deceive:

Clue 4) Avoid specifics about the policies because that will "confuse" the prospect, and the more you explain what they are getting, the less likely you are to get the check. (I.e. sell to clueless people because smart people will see right through us.)

Clue 5) Do a 1-call close because health insurance is an emotional decision and if you give them time to think about it, you won't get the check. (I.e. don't let them shop around because if they do they will see right through us.)

Clue 6) All of our competitors are "individual" insurance carriers and will increase their client's premiums drastically every year and eventually drop them if they ever file a large claim--i.e. scare the pants off them so you can get the check.

Clue 7) When booking an appointment, don't tell the prospect what insurance company you represent, they are less likely to book an appointment.

Clue 8) If a person has a major pre-existing condition, convince them that NO insurance company will ever give them insurance (I now know this is a lie) so they might as well buy our membership and get a $200 per day hospital confinement benefit because "something is better than nothing."

Clue 9) Don't leave a prospect with any materials about the specific policies if they want to think about it (this goes hand-in-hand with clues #4 & 5)

Clue 10) If you can't get a check for health insurance, convince them that they need a premier "stand-alone" membership to AFS because if we don't sell a certain percentage of stand-alone memberships, the insurance commission may see our association as a front for selling health insurance. (Hmmmmmm, perhaps we are a front for selling health insurance.)

I started having serious doubts a month ago when one of the managers scolded me for losing a sale because I explained that the Health Choice policy paid 80% after the deductible was met and the client wanted something that paid 100%. I was told I should NOT have explained the policy in that much detail--I had forgotten rule number one in training, I guess.

About a week ago I lost a sale because a client preferred a policy through BCBS. The same manager told me that he would have looked that woman right in the eyes and said "BCBS is going to drop you if you ever get a major health condition." I guess I forgot the scare 'em rule. This was the kick in the gut for me to finally realize the kind of company I was working for.

These "sales tactics" are not shoved down your throat at once. It is a gradual process. The irony is that somehow, in between all these deceptive tactics they teach you over months of training, they also convince you to believe in their motto of H.O.P.E. Helping Other People Everyday.

I am not a "moron" as someone previously called MEGA agents. I am an honest, intelligent, moral person who thought they were working for a legitimate company that helped people with affordable health coverage. I did not know any better. I was new to the insurance industry (as was every single person hired into my office over the last 3 months. What clue number is that?) and had no idea that the information they gave me was not true. I did not want to believe that I was working for a company that scams innocent people.

To the current MEGA agents that are trying to justify this company, STOP. Listen to your heart, I know I am not the only one that has been ignoring instincts. Stop thinking about yourself and all of the wealth they are supposedly going to lavish on you through their "generous" stock program (which is probably another ENRON waiting to happen).

I have not officially resigned from MEGA yet. I am debating whether or not I want to make a statement to my managers for training me to be a lier. Perhaps they don't know better--afterall, none of them have any experience outside of MEGA either. I have been pondering the great people I have been working with and whether I should clue them in too. Most of all I have been thinking about my clients and it sickens me to think that I thought I was helping them but may have actually hurt them.

Any suggestions from anyone as to how I should handle me resignation would be appreciated.
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#311 Consumer Suggestion

How to get the best health coverage and avoid ripoff

AUTHOR: Dawn - (U.S.A.)

I am a health insurance broker. I developed a series of questions to help people decide for themselves whether or not they are looking at the right plan for them.

I have heard from countless people who've had to pay for office visits, ER visits, lab work and even a hip replacement because they THOUGHT they had good coverage - most of the complaints were holders of policies mentioned in this thread (parent company UICI).

If you are uninsurable please know that most states offer Major Risk - in CA it is MRMIP - it is VERY expensive and the coverage is limited to $75K/year - but you can get it and it is legitimate coverage. New websites PPARX - partnership for prescription assistance and rxhelpforca Rx help for Californians are NO COST sites that will help people without insurance try to get help with their medications.

If you can't get the answers to the following questions IN WRITING (from their brochure, not a photocopy or a "letter") DO NOT BUY! If it is wishy washy or vague - DO NOT BUY!

The best way for you to decide which coverage you'd rather have is to have the following questions answered IN WRITING

How much do I have to pay for a $120 doctor visit?
How much do I have to pay for a $200 lab test done at and billed by the doctor?
How much do I have to pay for a $60 generic prescription?
How much of a $2,000 emergency room visit for stitches do I have to pay?
How much of a $54,000 appendix removal surgery do I have to pay?
If I have $200,000 in expenses from cancer or a serious illness in one year, how much of that do I have to pay?

Don't just take the agents word for it... get their brochure and look for the Max out of pocket - that's the max you'll pay in any one calendar year with a participating provider in the network of the insurance company.

Just get a plan. If you're not sure what you want at least go for a high deductible plan. Once you need coverage IT'S TOO LATE.

There are 45 million uninsured americans today. The fact that some are screwing the hospitals out of their money is contributing to the jacking up of the price of health care and health insurance in this country. How many $30,000 hospital bills do you think a hospital can afford to get screwed on before they start increasing their prices to make up for them. Get coverage, even if it seems like you "never use it" - like your car insurance, it will be there when you need it.

Good luck and good health.
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#312 UPDATE EX-employee responds

John- Des Moines. you are on fire.

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

you are right on target.

Why would mega agents be at this site?, defending their product?
They know they are frauds?

Here is one reason to not to work there? I sold a IFP plan the other day for Nationwide Health Plans.( a major Medical plan, not indemneny)

$2600 Commision. One plan. It was the bigest in company history. It beats trying to steal a bone from other hungry dogs.

Put me head to head with a Mega agent, and I will deepfry'em, dip'em in mayo, and swallow'em whole.
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#313 Consumer Comment

Laura. Did anyone tell you you might not be eligible for Health insurance.

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

Laura. You might be ineligible for IFP health insurance please do yourself a favor. Stop wasting your time researching and typing long columns on the internet. What you need to do is get serious about buying insurance. If you don't have insurance, CALL A broker not a agent. Tell them what conditions you have, and what RXs you are taking. They will be able to better asist you than any joker on this entire website.

I am using my ESP when I say you probably will be declined by the the major carriers. I have a sneaking suspision you might be recieving treatment for a possibily serious condition. You certainly are familiar with how much you are spending and what is covered. BC BSh AT, kai, HN will avoid you like the plague. Mega will prey on you.

Mega puts a limit on what they will spend.
Major Ins. carries put limits on what you will spend.

Screw out of network. You are never going to go out of network. What do you think you are going to get a kidney transplant at the Getty Center in Hollywood, like the stars.?

Please call a Broker, tell him what I told you.
I think a broker will tell you what you need to know, not what you want to hear.

dp SF
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#314 Consumer Comment

Stephen - you're a liar

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It's amazing when Mega agents come on places like this an pose as customers.

A: If you checked in on Dec 31st you would have only had to pay one dectible, even though you didn't check out until the second of Jan. You would have only had to pay another deductible if you would have checked into the hospital for a new event after Jan 1. But nice try.

B: Most Mega plans - Health Choice and Premier PPO have per-occurance deductibles. So what's your point?
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#315 Consumer Comment

Stephen - you're a liar

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It's amazing when Mega agents come on places like this an pose as customers.

A: If you checked in on Dec 31st you would have only had to pay one dectible, even though you didn't check out until the second of Jan. You would have only had to pay another deductible if you would have checked into the hospital for a new event after Jan 1. But nice try.

B: Most Mega plans - Health Choice and Premier PPO have per-occurance deductibles. So what's your point?
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#316 Consumer Comment

Stephen - you're a liar

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It's amazing when Mega agents come on places like this an pose as customers.

A: If you checked in on Dec 31st you would have only had to pay one dectible, even though you didn't check out until the second of Jan. You would have only had to pay another deductible if you would have checked into the hospital for a new event after Jan 1. But nice try.

B: Most Mega plans - Health Choice and Premier PPO have per-occurance deductibles. So what's your point?
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#317 Consumer Comment

Stephen - you're a liar

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

It's amazing when Mega agents come on places like this an pose as customers.

A: If you checked in on Dec 31st you would have only had to pay one dectible, even though you didn't check out until the second of Jan. You would have only had to pay another deductible if you would have checked into the hospital for a new event after Jan 1. But nice try.

B: Most Mega plans - Health Choice and Premier PPO have per-occurance deductibles. So what's your point?
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#318 Consumer Comment

Does this seem fair?

AUTHOR: Stephen - (U.S.A.)

I am considering a Mega Plan and previously I had a Blue Cross of California Plan. My wife gave birth to our son on December 31 and checked out of the hospital on Jan. 2. We had to pay two calendar year deductibles of $5,000 each, how fair is that?
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#319 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Did someone say 20.00 dr office visits?

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

The dreaded 20.00 co-pay for Doctors visits
Thats what they tell you but they dont tell you untill they have your check and are out the door that it is 1 or 2 pending on which one you opt for visits per quarter at 20.00 which they will only pay upto 75.00 for medically necessary services... nor do they tell you that it does not pay for routine exams..When someone asks for a "AGENT" to visit them and explaine what they are buying they depend on the "AGENT" Why because they Agent is supposed to be providing a honest service thats the difference MEGA "Agents"are not AGENTS they are salesmen who will tell you they can show you the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...How about that DEntal insurance where there is a 12 month waiting period with a max of 1000.00 per person per year..Your paying a full year before you have to pay your 50.00 deductible per person then are only getting upto 1000.00 for that year..

Vision Insurance what a joke they pay for an exam then its a discount program thats in a network..Most vision places nowadays give you free exams..What about procedures it pays for non..But its an Insurance right?

There is not a benefit in the NASE booklet you cannot get online and get your self..They say they get big discounts what a crock I myself got online and gotten better deals than with their benefit guide..
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#320 Consumer Comment

NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Just a word of THANKS to all the kind folks who took the time to reveal the true facts on NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance!!!

I recently went for a job interview with this company after they responded to my resume posted on Monster.com. When I arrived for my "interview" at their Woodland Hills, CA office I was led into a meeting room where I was surprised to find a number of other applicants who also just happened to have an interview at the same time as mine!

I soon discovered that the interview was actually a sales presentation with the specific intent of "selling" us on going to work for UGA (or whatever their real name is they have so many). We were told that in order to be hired (as an independent contractor 1099 on straight commission), we would need to pay a non-refundable "setup fee" of $275!

The bulk of the presentation was on the vast amounts of money we could make and how bad all the other insurance companies were. The presenter showed us stacks of bonus checks, some as high as $30,000.00 that had recently been paid to salespeople over and above their regular commissions. Just two sales a week, and you too could be making a six figure income, the presenter said! And that's just the beginning!"

After the 90 minute presentation we were finally given the opportunity for an individual interview. In my interview the presenter, who I presume to be the branch manager, didn't even look at my resume, work history, or educational background. I continued to feel I was being sold versus a normal interview where one is asked to sell themselves. When I said I needed a few days to think things over, the presenter gave me all of two days to make my decision, or I would lose the "opportunity".

My subsequent research on NASE, UGA, MEGA et al., confirms my own intuitive feelings about this company. Based on my research I can only conclude that this firm is not a highly regarded company, or a company that I would want to work for. UGA's prime market is insurance for the self employed. I've learned that there really is no such thing as special insurance for the self employed. Insurance is insurance. What UGA is doing is capitalizing on the small business person's frustration with the high cost of "legitimate" health insurance in order to sell their less than comparable policies and programs. I also called two independent insurance brokers in the Los Angeles area asking for their input on UGA and MEGA. Both laughed outloud and gave me an earful with respect to the deceptive nature of MEGA'S policies, the multitude of exclusions, the deceptive nature of their programs, the lack of training of their salespeople, and their record of not paying out on claims, etc., and so on. Remember these were "independent" agents who were not wedded to any particular company.

So THANKS AGAIN to all the posters at Rip-off Report for taking the time to tell your story. YOU HAVE SAVED ME (and hopefully many other people) from making a very bad career move and/or insurance buying decision!
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#321 Consumer Comment

NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Just a word of THANKS to all the kind folks who took the time to reveal the true facts on NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance!!!

I recently went for a job interview with this company after they responded to my resume posted on Monster.com. When I arrived for my "interview" at their Woodland Hills, CA office I was led into a meeting room where I was surprised to find a number of other applicants who also just happened to have an interview at the same time as mine!

I soon discovered that the interview was actually a sales presentation with the specific intent of "selling" us on going to work for UGA (or whatever their real name is they have so many). We were told that in order to be hired (as an independent contractor 1099 on straight commission), we would need to pay a non-refundable "setup fee" of $275!

The bulk of the presentation was on the vast amounts of money we could make and how bad all the other insurance companies were. The presenter showed us stacks of bonus checks, some as high as $30,000.00 that had recently been paid to salespeople over and above their regular commissions. Just two sales a week, and you too could be making a six figure income, the presenter said! And that's just the beginning!"

After the 90 minute presentation we were finally given the opportunity for an individual interview. In my interview the presenter, who I presume to be the branch manager, didn't even look at my resume, work history, or educational background. I continued to feel I was being sold versus a normal interview where one is asked to sell themselves. When I said I needed a few days to think things over, the presenter gave me all of two days to make my decision, or I would lose the "opportunity".

My subsequent research on NASE, UGA, MEGA et al., confirms my own intuitive feelings about this company. Based on my research I can only conclude that this firm is not a highly regarded company, or a company that I would want to work for. UGA's prime market is insurance for the self employed. I've learned that there really is no such thing as special insurance for the self employed. Insurance is insurance. What UGA is doing is capitalizing on the small business person's frustration with the high cost of "legitimate" health insurance in order to sell their less than comparable policies and programs. I also called two independent insurance brokers in the Los Angeles area asking for their input on UGA and MEGA. Both laughed outloud and gave me an earful with respect to the deceptive nature of MEGA'S policies, the multitude of exclusions, the deceptive nature of their programs, the lack of training of their salespeople, and their record of not paying out on claims, etc., and so on. Remember these were "independent" agents who were not wedded to any particular company.

So THANKS AGAIN to all the posters at Rip-off Report for taking the time to tell your story. YOU HAVE SAVED ME (and hopefully many other people) from making a very bad career move and/or insurance buying decision!
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#322 Consumer Comment

NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Just a word of THANKS to all the kind folks who took the time to reveal the true facts on NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance!!!

I recently went for a job interview with this company after they responded to my resume posted on Monster.com. When I arrived for my "interview" at their Woodland Hills, CA office I was led into a meeting room where I was surprised to find a number of other applicants who also just happened to have an interview at the same time as mine!

I soon discovered that the interview was actually a sales presentation with the specific intent of "selling" us on going to work for UGA (or whatever their real name is they have so many). We were told that in order to be hired (as an independent contractor 1099 on straight commission), we would need to pay a non-refundable "setup fee" of $275!

The bulk of the presentation was on the vast amounts of money we could make and how bad all the other insurance companies were. The presenter showed us stacks of bonus checks, some as high as $30,000.00 that had recently been paid to salespeople over and above their regular commissions. Just two sales a week, and you too could be making a six figure income, the presenter said! And that's just the beginning!"

After the 90 minute presentation we were finally given the opportunity for an individual interview. In my interview the presenter, who I presume to be the branch manager, didn't even look at my resume, work history, or educational background. I continued to feel I was being sold versus a normal interview where one is asked to sell themselves. When I said I needed a few days to think things over, the presenter gave me all of two days to make my decision, or I would lose the "opportunity".

My subsequent research on NASE, UGA, MEGA et al., confirms my own intuitive feelings about this company. Based on my research I can only conclude that this firm is not a highly regarded company, or a company that I would want to work for. UGA's prime market is insurance for the self employed. I've learned that there really is no such thing as special insurance for the self employed. Insurance is insurance. What UGA is doing is capitalizing on the small business person's frustration with the high cost of "legitimate" health insurance in order to sell their less than comparable policies and programs. I also called two independent insurance brokers in the Los Angeles area asking for their input on UGA and MEGA. Both laughed outloud and gave me an earful with respect to the deceptive nature of MEGA'S policies, the multitude of exclusions, the deceptive nature of their programs, the lack of training of their salespeople, and their record of not paying out on claims, etc., and so on. Remember these were "independent" agents who were not wedded to any particular company.

So THANKS AGAIN to all the posters at Rip-off Report for taking the time to tell your story. YOU HAVE SAVED ME (and hopefully many other people) from making a very bad career move and/or insurance buying decision!
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#323 Consumer Comment

NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Just a word of THANKS to all the kind folks who took the time to reveal the true facts on NASE, UGA, UICI, Mid-West National, Healthmarkets & MEGA Life & Health Insurance!!!

I recently went for a job interview with this company after they responded to my resume posted on Monster.com. When I arrived for my "interview" at their Woodland Hills, CA office I was led into a meeting room where I was surprised to find a number of other applicants who also just happened to have an interview at the same time as mine!

I soon discovered that the interview was actually a sales presentation with the specific intent of "selling" us on going to work for UGA (or whatever their real name is they have so many). We were told that in order to be hired (as an independent contractor 1099 on straight commission), we would need to pay a non-refundable "setup fee" of $275!

The bulk of the presentation was on the vast amounts of money we could make and how bad all the other insurance companies were. The presenter showed us stacks of bonus checks, some as high as $30,000.00 that had recently been paid to salespeople over and above their regular commissions. Just two sales a week, and you too could be making a six figure income, the presenter said! And that's just the beginning!"

After the 90 minute presentation we were finally given the opportunity for an individual interview. In my interview the presenter, who I presume to be the branch manager, didn't even look at my resume, work history, or educational background. I continued to feel I was being sold versus a normal interview where one is asked to sell themselves. When I said I needed a few days to think things over, the presenter gave me all of two days to make my decision, or I would lose the "opportunity".

My subsequent research on NASE, UGA, MEGA et al., confirms my own intuitive feelings about this company. Based on my research I can only conclude that this firm is not a highly regarded company, or a company that I would want to work for. UGA's prime market is insurance for the self employed. I've learned that there really is no such thing as special insurance for the self employed. Insurance is insurance. What UGA is doing is capitalizing on the small business person's frustration with the high cost of "legitimate" health insurance in order to sell their less than comparable policies and programs. I also called two independent insurance brokers in the Los Angeles area asking for their input on UGA and MEGA. Both laughed outloud and gave me an earful with respect to the deceptive nature of MEGA'S policies, the multitude of exclusions, the deceptive nature of their programs, the lack of training of their salespeople, and their record of not paying out on claims, etc., and so on. Remember these were "independent" agents who were not wedded to any particular company.

So THANKS AGAIN to all the posters at Rip-off Report for taking the time to tell your story. YOU HAVE SAVED ME (and hopefully many other people) from making a very bad career move and/or insurance buying decision!
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#324 Consumer Suggestion

You are Right, I am Wrong...Does This Make You Happy

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

OK. I don't know why I am going here, but I am. Ex-Mega agents may be laughing and putting their hands over their eyes and, well, so be it. That's their perrogative.

The fact of the matter is, I'm sorry they think I'm stupid, but that's what most lobbyist will try to project against the competiton. I am not the competition and I am not for Mega Health and Life...I am for fairness. I understand that some plans that Mega offers may not be the best for a lot of people, but may be for others.

I want to hear about companies that are ripping off consumers, also..I am a consumer!!! I don't want to be ripped off. I just want people to post legitimate complaints!!! I'm done here. You don't get my drift; therefore, nevermind. Sorry I even entertained this forum.

I thought I could get some answers... NOT!!! Good luck all on your health insurance endeavors.
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#325 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not enough.

AUTHOR: Leonard - (U.S.A.)

Laura,

Let me just say that all the ex Mega agents who just read your rebuttal either put both hands over their face and shook their head, or they giggled and then shook their head.

It's ironic that you are in the state of Washington. There is a specific reason why you are only able to get that one major medical plan in that state - a very important one. I strongly suggest you contact the insurance commissioner and get as much information as possible with regards to Mega Life. If you take the time to read through ALL of the many complaints about Mega on this site (alot of them are under other search categories too, not just this one), you'll also find plenty of information about Mega's operation in the state of Washington. I believe there are some very nice links to other publications as well, newspaper articles, magazine articles, etc...

You'll find that Mega was forced (after a cease and desist order) to stop selling all other policies, and to only offer a major medical plan. Now, that being said - maybe they were forced to offer a plan that doesn't have the gaping holes that all of their other policies do. Maybe an agent who recently practiced in Washington can pop in here with some facts? But I will tell you this - ALL of the policies that I had at my disposal (about 8), had the same inefficient coverage b/c they all had the same "riders" to their policies. The chemo/radiation was slightly different on a couple plans, but it was basically as I stated, and no matter what plan you have, you are going to be screwed with cancer. This is pretty much consistent in all states that mega operates in, with slight variations here and there.

A couple other things that you need to consider. Your comment about looking for a better plan to cover you if you had cancer, is an uneducated comment. Even the active Mega agents scrambling around on this site trying to put out all the fires will tell you that once you get cancer - you'll never be able to get another insurance carrier to cover you in the individual market. You're stuck with what you've got at that point, so it's not like you can go with a Mega policy b/c of one of it's advantages, like - I don't know - the "wonderful association benefits" (ex mega agents laugh again - I couldn't think of any part of a mega policy that is actually better! i suppose the transplant benefits could be, but I'm waiting for someone to show me where the holes are in that too), and then switch to another insurance policy to have your cancer treatments covered. You're screwed at that point. Plus, the chemo/radiation coverage is only one (albeit major) deficiency of their plans. There are ALOT of deficiencies.

The other thing is, why on earth do you care if tons of customers and ex agents are doing their part to help protect consumers from insurance companies. The fact that Mega is getting bashed all over the place, and not just for claim paying (there's plenty of those threads), or customer service, should TELL YOU SOMETHING!!! I mean - hell, if I'm on ripoffreport looking up a company, I want to hear about everything that people have experienced. It has nothing to do with being unprofessional. Granted, I'm sure there are plenty of agents/company reps who are on here putting out fires, trying to steal business, and misguiding people. But come on. There's common themes amongst many of these threads and one of them is Mega's agents (people with no experience and who are often desperate for work) mislead customers about the coverage they are getting. The customers complain when they find out after it's too late that their coverage was not what they thought, and the ex agents get on here and TRY to turn the light bulb on for individuals before they make a crucial mistake. I'd say that's pretty d**n important and useful information.
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#326 Consumer Suggestion

I Did Some Research

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

The negative comments being made sound legitimate on certain types of plans being sold throughout the country. I, myself, wouldn't care to purchase a plan like the one you are describing, if it pays the way you say it does.

However, I did some research and discovered that Mega sells all different kinds of plans that cater to different kinds of needs and they are different in every State. To generalize to the public that Mega is not a reputable company because you don't like the features of one plan they offer, in my opinion, is not very fair.

For instance, in my State of Washington, they don't offer the type of plan you are describing. It was explained to me as a Major Medical plan with a calendar year deductible that I could decide on, based on what I could afford to pay in the way of premiums per month. They have certain co-pays for hospitalizations, doctor visits (they said "unlimited" doctor visits per year), testing, ER, etc., but from what I can see with all the other Company's offerings, everyone has co-pays. There are other features that appealed to me, such as, up to $1 Million dollar transplants paid at 100% after deductible, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here.

If I had Cancer and I knew I was going to need that type of coverage, I probably wouldn't decide to go with a plan that you describe, as it definitely could cost me a lot out of pocket, if you are correct with your figures on the maximums it pays daily for treatments. I would have to decline that type of policy as it wouldn't meet my needs. However, at that point, I would probably ask to see what other types of plans they have, and if I didn't like them either, I would say "thanks, but no thanks" and keep looking. It's my right to decide on the type of plan that would save me the most money on health care costs based on my specific needs in a policy.

If all the features of the plan are stated up-front by the salesperson/agent, and you don't like what you are hearing, send them on their way and don't buy. At least it sounds like they aren't hiding the details of what they are trying to sell.

I guess my point is, all companies have different product offerings and not every plan is going to appeal to all people. That's why we have choices.

I think the main complaints being posted against any insurance company should be the one's regarding "Customer Service" or how timely was your claim paid, or what kind of hassles and time wasted did you have to go through to get your concerns handled to your satisfaction or dissatisfaction, and so on. Or, was something so hidden in the fine print of your policy that what you thought you were buying turned out to be just the opposite? Those are the types of complaints I am interested in against insurance companies.

I don't buy based on what I'm told, but on what's in the contract. I read every detail and if I don't understand something, I ask for my questions to be answered in writing.

Don't bad mouth a company just because you don't like a specific plan or the agent presenting it. Agents are suppose to be ethical and truly believe in the products they are promoting. There are good agents and bad agents and the bad ones need to find a new profession as they don't serve anyone's best interests; the company or the client.
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#327 Consumer Suggestion

I Did Some Research

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

The negative comments being made sound legitimate on certain types of plans being sold throughout the country. I, myself, wouldn't care to purchase a plan like the one you are describing, if it pays the way you say it does.

However, I did some research and discovered that Mega sells all different kinds of plans that cater to different kinds of needs and they are different in every State. To generalize to the public that Mega is not a reputable company because you don't like the features of one plan they offer, in my opinion, is not very fair.

For instance, in my State of Washington, they don't offer the type of plan you are describing. It was explained to me as a Major Medical plan with a calendar year deductible that I could decide on, based on what I could afford to pay in the way of premiums per month. They have certain co-pays for hospitalizations, doctor visits (they said "unlimited" doctor visits per year), testing, ER, etc., but from what I can see with all the other Company's offerings, everyone has co-pays. There are other features that appealed to me, such as, up to $1 Million dollar transplants paid at 100% after deductible, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here.

If I had Cancer and I knew I was going to need that type of coverage, I probably wouldn't decide to go with a plan that you describe, as it definitely could cost me a lot out of pocket, if you are correct with your figures on the maximums it pays daily for treatments. I would have to decline that type of policy as it wouldn't meet my needs. However, at that point, I would probably ask to see what other types of plans they have, and if I didn't like them either, I would say "thanks, but no thanks" and keep looking. It's my right to decide on the type of plan that would save me the most money on health care costs based on my specific needs in a policy.

If all the features of the plan are stated up-front by the salesperson/agent, and you don't like what you are hearing, send them on their way and don't buy. At least it sounds like they aren't hiding the details of what they are trying to sell.

I guess my point is, all companies have different product offerings and not every plan is going to appeal to all people. That's why we have choices.

I think the main complaints being posted against any insurance company should be the one's regarding "Customer Service" or how timely was your claim paid, or what kind of hassles and time wasted did you have to go through to get your concerns handled to your satisfaction or dissatisfaction, and so on. Or, was something so hidden in the fine print of your policy that what you thought you were buying turned out to be just the opposite? Those are the types of complaints I am interested in against insurance companies.

I don't buy based on what I'm told, but on what's in the contract. I read every detail and if I don't understand something, I ask for my questions to be answered in writing.

Don't bad mouth a company just because you don't like a specific plan or the agent presenting it. Agents are suppose to be ethical and truly believe in the products they are promoting. There are good agents and bad agents and the bad ones need to find a new profession as they don't serve anyone's best interests; the company or the client.
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#328 Consumer Suggestion

I Did Some Research

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

The negative comments being made sound legitimate on certain types of plans being sold throughout the country. I, myself, wouldn't care to purchase a plan like the one you are describing, if it pays the way you say it does.

However, I did some research and discovered that Mega sells all different kinds of plans that cater to different kinds of needs and they are different in every State. To generalize to the public that Mega is not a reputable company because you don't like the features of one plan they offer, in my opinion, is not very fair.

For instance, in my State of Washington, they don't offer the type of plan you are describing. It was explained to me as a Major Medical plan with a calendar year deductible that I could decide on, based on what I could afford to pay in the way of premiums per month. They have certain co-pays for hospitalizations, doctor visits (they said "unlimited" doctor visits per year), testing, ER, etc., but from what I can see with all the other Company's offerings, everyone has co-pays. There are other features that appealed to me, such as, up to $1 Million dollar transplants paid at 100% after deductible, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here.

If I had Cancer and I knew I was going to need that type of coverage, I probably wouldn't decide to go with a plan that you describe, as it definitely could cost me a lot out of pocket, if you are correct with your figures on the maximums it pays daily for treatments. I would have to decline that type of policy as it wouldn't meet my needs. However, at that point, I would probably ask to see what other types of plans they have, and if I didn't like them either, I would say "thanks, but no thanks" and keep looking. It's my right to decide on the type of plan that would save me the most money on health care costs based on my specific needs in a policy.

If all the features of the plan are stated up-front by the salesperson/agent, and you don't like what you are hearing, send them on their way and don't buy. At least it sounds like they aren't hiding the details of what they are trying to sell.

I guess my point is, all companies have different product offerings and not every plan is going to appeal to all people. That's why we have choices.

I think the main complaints being posted against any insurance company should be the one's regarding "Customer Service" or how timely was your claim paid, or what kind of hassles and time wasted did you have to go through to get your concerns handled to your satisfaction or dissatisfaction, and so on. Or, was something so hidden in the fine print of your policy that what you thought you were buying turned out to be just the opposite? Those are the types of complaints I am interested in against insurance companies.

I don't buy based on what I'm told, but on what's in the contract. I read every detail and if I don't understand something, I ask for my questions to be answered in writing.

Don't bad mouth a company just because you don't like a specific plan or the agent presenting it. Agents are suppose to be ethical and truly believe in the products they are promoting. There are good agents and bad agents and the bad ones need to find a new profession as they don't serve anyone's best interests; the company or the client.
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#329 Consumer Suggestion

I Did Some Research

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

The negative comments being made sound legitimate on certain types of plans being sold throughout the country. I, myself, wouldn't care to purchase a plan like the one you are describing, if it pays the way you say it does.

However, I did some research and discovered that Mega sells all different kinds of plans that cater to different kinds of needs and they are different in every State. To generalize to the public that Mega is not a reputable company because you don't like the features of one plan they offer, in my opinion, is not very fair.

For instance, in my State of Washington, they don't offer the type of plan you are describing. It was explained to me as a Major Medical plan with a calendar year deductible that I could decide on, based on what I could afford to pay in the way of premiums per month. They have certain co-pays for hospitalizations, doctor visits (they said "unlimited" doctor visits per year), testing, ER, etc., but from what I can see with all the other Company's offerings, everyone has co-pays. There are other features that appealed to me, such as, up to $1 Million dollar transplants paid at 100% after deductible, but that's not the point I'm trying to make here.

If I had Cancer and I knew I was going to need that type of coverage, I probably wouldn't decide to go with a plan that you describe, as it definitely could cost me a lot out of pocket, if you are correct with your figures on the maximums it pays daily for treatments. I would have to decline that type of policy as it wouldn't meet my needs. However, at that point, I would probably ask to see what other types of plans they have, and if I didn't like them either, I would say "thanks, but no thanks" and keep looking. It's my right to decide on the type of plan that would save me the most money on health care costs based on my specific needs in a policy.

If all the features of the plan are stated up-front by the salesperson/agent, and you don't like what you are hearing, send them on their way and don't buy. At least it sounds like they aren't hiding the details of what they are trying to sell.

I guess my point is, all companies have different product offerings and not every plan is going to appeal to all people. That's why we have choices.

I think the main complaints being posted against any insurance company should be the one's regarding "Customer Service" or how timely was your claim paid, or what kind of hassles and time wasted did you have to go through to get your concerns handled to your satisfaction or dissatisfaction, and so on. Or, was something so hidden in the fine print of your policy that what you thought you were buying turned out to be just the opposite? Those are the types of complaints I am interested in against insurance companies.

I don't buy based on what I'm told, but on what's in the contract. I read every detail and if I don't understand something, I ask for my questions to be answered in writing.

Don't bad mouth a company just because you don't like a specific plan or the agent presenting it. Agents are suppose to be ethical and truly believe in the products they are promoting. There are good agents and bad agents and the bad ones need to find a new profession as they don't serve anyone's best interests; the company or the client.
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#330 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Resonse to Laura

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

So Laura, you're looking for a independent unbiased review the health insurance company complaints? It exists. Go to the National Association of Insurance Commissioners website and run a national complaint search. This is what you'll find:

2005 national complaint ratios:

Mega Life: 6.63
Assurant Health: 1.90
Golden Rule: 1.20
Continental General: .67
Humana: .28

Mega not only has the highest complaint ratio in the nation for individual health companies, but it's 5 times higher then anyone else!

Now if you don't like this feel free to contact the NAIC and complain. This is the same organization that launched a 25 state investigation following Washington State issuing a cease and desist.

Laura - can you please explain to the class why Mega Life has the highest national complaint ratio?
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#331 UPDATE EX-employee responds

He's absolutely right.

AUTHOR: Leonard - (U.S.A.)

Laura - If I could save just one individual from purchasing a Mega policy, I would feel so much better about my complete waste of time as a mega agent the last 5 months. Please, please do detailed research and make sure you compare every single part of the medical plans before you make your decision.


John from Des Moines is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT about Mega Life. Their agents are very poorly informed, and although it may seem like they are taking time to explain the policy, I guarantee you they are either directly misleading you, or they are too uneducated to know that their policy is tremendously inferior in many, many areas. There are so many short comings to even their best policies, and their limitation on cancer (chemo/radiation) is vastly short of the coverage you will need when confronted with that illness. Chemo is anywhere from 8-18k a day, and some treatments are as agressive as every day for a couple weeks.

Do the math - mega pays around $1500/day, and if the chemo drugs are running 10k a day, that is over 100k shortage in coverage for a 2 week cycle. And that is only the first round of treatment. Mega tells you that you can go in or out of network and that you'll never need to worry b/c you'll always know that there is a max out of pocket. They insist that they cover the big things very well, like Cancer. They say "dont you want to go to the best hospital if you or your spouse were ever to get cancer?". But it's all a lie, b/c if you get cancer with their policy you're screwed no matter where you go. 99% of the agents don't realize they are lying b/c they are clueless about health care costs, and how their policies really pay - but you can't blame them b/c they are only repeating what they were taught word for word. There is a reason that Mega gets bashed by former agents, and there is absolutely a reason they get bashed by so many customers.

Pay attention to these warnings - they are not agents from other companies trying to mislead you. They are mostly just people who feel sick to their stomach about all the unfortunate individuals they they put in mega plans, and they are trying to make up for it by warning others. As for me, I am no longer in the insurance business at all, and pretty soon I'll close the book on Mega life for good. I'm just trying to help a few individuals before I do. Good Luck.
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#332 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Are you kidding me?

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

So your answer to the health care crisis and not having your client go into bk is Premiur PPO with:

1) Per-occurance deductibles
2) Out of network is a $9,000 out of pocket max plus whatever deductible you have.
3) $1,000 ER limit
4) $2,000 lab and therapy limit
5) $1,250 per day chemo benefit with NO CAP - client always pays 20% of the charges.

ER visits must be deemed a medical emergency to be paid. Who gets to decide if it's a medical emergency? Oh Mega. Doctor visits must be deemed medically necessary to be paid. Who decides if it's medically necessary? Oh Mega again.

Physical Therapy? Cannot recieve it unless hospital confined but didn't receive therapy while confined. Ambulance? No benefit unless hospital confined.

Lab testing - not covered by doctor office visits, ER, outpatient facilities, etc.

Should I go on or do you know that I was million dollar seller for Mega? I'm now independent and wouldn't sell a Mega plan for all the money in the world. You just have to be educated.
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#333 Consumer Comment

Competition Bashing is Not Very Professional

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

I have been somewhat amused for the past hour reading general complaints (which appear to be from Blue Cross Blue Shield agents or brokers, as opposed to real customers with legitimate complaints) with rebuttals submitted in defense of Mega by Mega Insurance Agents.

After reading all the Mega bashing posts, I decided to see what kind of complaints are being posted about Blue Cross Blue Shield and, also, to see the amount of rebuttals posted in their defense from their agents.

There were NONE. Maybe it's because if enough attention is paid here, no one will even think to look elsewhere for complaints on BCBS.

The complaints on the BCBS search appeared to be from bonafide unhappy customers with detailed descriptions of what happened to them. These were the type of complaints I had expected to find with the Mega search, but didn't.

In fact, I didn't see one general complaint on BCBS that appeared to be posted by an agent from some other company. I guess Mega agents would rather not waste their time bad mouthing the competition, which, in my opinion, is professional behavior.

Licensed insurance agents can be fined large sums of money for bashing the competition, not to mention losing their licenses to do business in the insurance industry.

I guess I'm glad that I'm not easily swayed one way or the other by what is posted, good or bad. It appears that the Mega agents really do want to help explain how the plans work, are apologetic for consumers who have dealt with less than ethical agents (they are in every company), and do believe in what they have to offer.

Just from what I've read on this website on both Mega and BCBS makes me more inclined to try a Mega plan any day. I like the way the agents responded. Very professional.
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#334 UPDATE Employee

Balanced billing

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

I am holding a PPO brochure and it says, and I quote, "in addition, if you go out-of-network, you will also be responsible for any 'balance billing' - in other words, the difference between what the providers bill and the Arkansas Blue Cross and Blue Shield allowed amount."

The MAC you mentioned with Mega has nothing to do with it's Premier PPO plan which is what we sell in Arkansas. If companies don't use UCR to their advantage, then explain the lawsuits on the AMA website regarding this area.

Also, do a search for hospitals etc on the Net that print on their website that you would be responsible for any amount above and beyond the UCR charge. I found several. Read the USA Today, Money and other ads that reveal the horrors behind balance billing and then tell me that it doesn't happen.

Another thought, talk to the people that we do who have lost everything they had because of major gaps in an insurance policy. Lastly, PPO plans do not do away with balance billing. They open the door to it. Yes, if you stay in network, it does. That is not and has never been the issue with those of us agents who hear the horror stories of people who had insurance and still lost it all. What our competitors do is convince people they will never have to worry about GOING OUTSIDE THEIR NETWORK. Then what happens? They go outside the network for WHATEVER REASON and meet the monster of UCR-balance billing head on. Just do the research. You have to go no farther than some Google searches. If anyone would like more info on UCR-balance billing and they are open to the FULL TRUTH, I will make it available.

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#335 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Balance billing

AUTHOR: Lance - (U.S.A.)

Did you ever really pay attention in health insuance class 101. Balance billing is not done by any companies and Blue Cross puts it right in thier policies. Every insurance company has out of net work charges even MEGA thats why HSA's are becoming very popular. If mega dose not do balance billing then why do they put caps on almost everthing that is covered totally opposite of all the other companies.

Oh yeah one more thing if mega does not do balance billing why on the major medical plans that they do have, why do they have the MAC which for all you agents that never worked with the N.A.S.E. the mac means maximum allowable charge. Which mega is the only one's that know what that maximum is, the agents have no idea what the maximum is neither do their clients.

So before anyone says anything about balance billing check your state laws. this is not done any more. Any policy thats has a network has prenegotiated rates that are already been work out with the providers and payments are exepted at these prenegotiated rates. Thats why ppo networks where created to do away with BALANCE BILLING.
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#336 UPDATE Employee

Top Mega Agents Rare Breed

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

I too finished in the top of my quick start class. I am still with the company and unlike the other gentleman, I had my own agency BEFORE I went to Mega Life and Health. It is very hard work and very few make it. I grant you that. However, it is not because of ANYTHING the company does. It is a result of many new agents not doing what it takes to become successful. Yes, they do hire a lot of people. Yes, very few stay long term. But, it is not the fault of the company. The same can be said for many very recognized insurance companies that very few make it in their company. It takes hard, dedicated, disciplined work. It also takes a passion and full understanding of just how damaging balanced billing can be. It results from a reasonable or allowable amount that the insurance company sets being much less than the actual bill. Go to the American Medical Association website and read about how insurance companies are being sued over balanced billing. Why is it that 3/4 of the people who have to file bankruptcy for medical reasons had health insurance to start? Talk to the thousands of Americans who went through a major bankruptcy because they HAD TO FOR LIFE SAVING REASONS---go out of network for treatment. They hit the reasonable and allowable monster head on and lost everything the owned. It faces good people every single day. Insurance is not designed to cover every nickle and dime. Most people by it to protect themselves from life's worst health tragedies. That is known as ASSET PROTECTION. One last thing. Look at the character seen in the replies of the agents who are bashing Mega. I don't hear the sincere agents who are doing well today using cussing etc to make their point. We don't have to. We believe in what we do and it doesn't make us ignorant or blind.
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#337 Consumer Suggestion

Listen up everyone

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

It's almost humorous to me as I read some of the post from current MEGA/NASE reps. I guess it's because I see how hard you're trying to believe in what you are saying. I am an X-Mega agent. I came into the business fresh, young, blind and ambitious. I won my quickstart class- sold $175,000 AV in 3 months and continued writing at a pretty heavy pace for an additional 6 months. I even remember placing post like the guy above -Chris from Georgia who is obviously clueless. I believed everything that my trainers told me, but turns out- THEY LIED. Turns out, Mega operates by the same insurance guidelines as their competitors... which mean my clients cannot be singled out for cancellation or rate increases based on claims from any carrier!

LOOK at all of the horror stories above.. WHY? Currently, Mega is at an all time high with agent misrepresentation and customer complaints. Look it up with the NAIC reports...Why? Because top level cunning managers at UGA hire unemployed family people to become agents with them, they show them some money, they show them how to mislead their clients into getting the check and their blind agents run around selling with no clue how and they end up placing unsuspecting families into bankruptcy.

It took me about 10 months to figure it out and get out. Today, I am the owner of my own agency and I actually enjoy training and helping agents do it a better way. We carry only the top insurance companies I offer good contracts to my agents -240% 9 and 12 month advances on just about all of my carriers. Commissions paid directly from the insurance companies. We sell quite a bit online - where we truely are CONSULTANTS to our clients as they can review their coverage and compare the best plans. We leave the brochures behind, we let prospects actually think it over for a day or two because buying health insurance is not like buying a used car or a time share - IT'S an important monthly expense and needs to be made wisely. And guess what??? We actually sell policies and a lot of them doing it the ethical way...

We offer full major medical plans that are as simple as this: $500 up to $5,000 1 time annual deductibles- than 100% co-insurance on all Inpatient and Outpatient scenarios. Unlimited doc. office visits with co-pays, 1st dollar wellness coverage, and Unlimited RX with $15 generic co-pay - $30 brand name after $200 annual deductible- PPO Networks and Traditional plans...All plans have associations build into them and the monthly cost are as little as $3.00/month - Believe me when I say it- IT'S JUST THAT EASY! Any agent who is selling what I am will agree with me that they will beat and take away any Mega plan EVERYTIME! We salivate when we get a lead of a Mega client.

Bottom line: Any consumer looking to buy MEGA- there are so many better options! Any agent selling Mega- there are SOO many better options. If you need a hand getting out- I could show you how to double your take home, decrease your expenses, make an excellent earning and actually sleep at night...(all the stock in the world cannot beat that last one)
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#338 Consumer Comment

Hard advice to follow

AUTHOR: Will - (U.S.A.)

While that may be true in Colorado, it may not be true in every state.

In addition, you are an insurance agent. It's doubtful that consumers would be aware of any form of the type you are referring to. And an unscrupulous company would not inform them of it.

I for one, was never given anything like a list of what they would and wouldn't cover and for how much. Not at all. I'm just glad I realized early on what a scam it was before I had anything major occur.

It's too bad that there are companies that profit off people's ignorance of what the law may or may not require.
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#339 Consumer Suggestion

Shop and Compare

AUTHOR: Christopher - (U.S.A.)

I sell health insurance in Colorado. I looked at a Mega Life proposal. Mega is a limited benefit plan. In Colorado, insurance companies are required to provide a description of benefits form in the same format from company to company so you can make easy comparisons. Line 16 deals with ambulance benefits for instance.

I quoted a family. The Mega plan was quoted at about $450/month. The major med HSA I quoted was $465. Here are the comparisons.

Mega Chemotherapy Benefit (additional cost) $7500
Other company included in plan up to $8,000,000

Mega air ambulance benefit (additional cost) $3500
Other company included in plan up to $8,000,000

Mega accident coverage up to $50,000 max $500/day
Other company included in plan up to $8,000,000

Mega family deductible $2,500 per confinement period.
Other company family deductible $2,500 per year

Bottom line. Use the Benefits Description Form to compare benefits. Know what you are buying.
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#340 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ex Agent of Mega Life/NASE

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

I worked three months for the company and almost went broke because I could not sell the product it was so bad.

I asked a manager once about the limited benfits and he told me if I noticed, he never mentioned it while giving the presentation. WTF??? Our daughter just had a ACL replaced and the bills total just short of $30,000. Thank goodness we had BC/BS of Iowa or we would be bankrupt.

Always thought it was strange that my commisssion check was a check from my managers personal checking account and they always said don't worry about the taxes for a couple of years as the commissions were advanced not earned. Bet that is fun explaining to the IRS.

I dont know how any agent selling Mega can sleep at night. Stay far, far, away from this company as an agent or client. You can do better.
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to john from miiami beach

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

hey john i noticed that i can't leave any contact info but i would like to speak with you because i have sent a resignation letter to mega via e mail and i'm talking to a couple of brokers to go independent. plus i'm planning to switch my coverage. so i don't know how to reach you.
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#342 Consumer Suggestion

NASE - does nothing for small business

AUTHOR: Duane - (U.S.A.)

I have some experience in dealing with this company. I have been in sales for a few years now and was looking for a new opportunity with a different company. I responded to an ad on monster for a sales position with the NASE. Went to a group interview (which was my first inclination something was wrong) and had some guy pitch us on how he used to sell TV's & VCR's at Sears before he was presented with the Opportunity of a lifetime.

The way he sold how NASE reps helped small businesses really had me interested, I sat through the whole interview and was actually optimistic about the opportunity. A few days later I had a second interview with a team leader. She was very nice and explained all the ins & outs of the business to me.

I really was interested at this point, talked to whole thing over with my wife and the only thing that held me back was that I have a 10 month old daughter and I was a little worried about leaving my current job with a salary guarantee plus commissions going to a straight commission only job. After much discussion and thought, I decided not to pursue the position.

I did however; recommend a few of my friends & even my wife, who are in business for themselves to the team leader that I met with as possible people that would be interested in insurance.

One of my best friends signed up right awayI am sad to say. He was ripped off. I do have to say that MEGA did call him and go over his policy with him, and it was not what he thought it was. He is paying almost $300 a month for pretty much a discount program. Needless to say, he is canceling, and going with Blue Cross.

The NASE says it represents small businesses by lobbing for them discounts, blah blahI have done some research and have found nothing that they have done for small businesses as far as lobbing goes. Maybe the $35 membership for the discounts is something worthwhilebut from my small dealings with this company, I would say to stay clear of the health non-insurance.

I have been to the Primerica recruiting seminar alsoand the old verbage If it's to good to be true, it probably is fits here.
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#343 UPDATE Employee

hey john from miami beach

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

i am currently an agent for mega and i would like to contact you because i have had a bad feeling for quite some time about these guys and i want to look around and work somewhere that i can feel better about. i know there is no perfect company. also i have a mega plan for myself and i don't feel good about it at all. i got into the health insurance industry by signing up with their agent and then i was looking to change careers. so at the time i knew nothing about insurance. i was always on group plans and didn't know what to look for. well i've been doing this for about 6 months and the more i've learned the more i've found it harder to want to sell for mega. anyway the reason i singled you out is that i live in miami.
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#344 UPDATE EX-employee responds

MID-WEST MEGA LIFE SCAM SCAM SCAM FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

POTENTIAL HEALTH INSURANCE BUYERS: RUN RUN RUN, DON'T BUY THIS CRAP. IT WILL BANKRUPT YOU!! THE REBUTTALS POSTED HERE BY CURRENT AGENTS IS ONLY EVIDENCE OF THEIR BRAINWASHING. THESE d****eBAGS WERE RECURITED RIGHT OFF THE STREET, BRAINWASHED, THEN THEY CALLED YOU! THE FUNNY PART IS ASKING ONE OF THESE AGENTS TO LOOK AROUND AT THE CHEERLEADING SESSION OF A MEETING THEY HAVE ONCE A WEEK. THEIR "COLLEAGUES" ARE NOT EXPERIENCED, THEY'VE ONLY SOLD MEGA/MID-WEST. THEY DON'T KNOW A GOD d**n THING ABOUT INSURANCE. THESE GUYS SUCKS MONKEY NUTS. GET A NICE GOLDEN RULE, ASSURANT HEALTH, AETNA, SOMETHING OTHER THAN THIS BS. THIS COMPANY KNOWS HOW TO BEND THE RULES, HAVE NO ETHICAL STANDARDS WHATSOEVER, LIE AND CHEAT, IF I HAD A AGENT CLOSE TO ME NOW I'D KICK HIM IN THE NUTS TILL HE PUKED.
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#345 Consumer Comment

Blue Cross Blue Shield For Me Please

AUTHOR: Nichole - (U.S.A.)