• Report: #345855

Complaint Review: THG

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  • Submitted: Mon, June 30, 2008
  • Updated: Sun, December 21, 2008

  • Reported By:Miami Florida
THG
www.thgworldwide.com Chicago, Illinois U.S.A.

THG / Paul Meakins / Jon Stromberg How to join a company and get the life sucked out of you + BUYER BEWARE Chicago Illinois

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Jon Stromberg should be smarter than that. How to avoid getting ripped off:

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First off, I agree with the post that points out that this a website aimed at helping potential buyers to make a decision about whether or not to move forward with a purchase and thus will address that issue first.

Hey Potential Customer, Have you lost your mind. Why on earth would buy from a company who notoriously charges more for their product than the actual venue would. I worked for THG in numerous offices for a number of years, and believe me when I tell you that you will be sorry if you buy any event besides the Masters (they do a great job at the Masters for only 3K per person per day).. By the way, face value of a Tournament Ticket for the Masters is around $200 per person per day, but I am certain that your top clients will each eat & drink $2800 worth of food and drinks per day (lol).

For example, let's say you want to go to the 2009 US Open at Bethpage, NY next year. Go to the USGA website first dummy. If not, and you buy from these crooks, you will wind up in a tent at Battle Row Park which is NOWHERE near the actual golf course. You won't even be able to get a coke without trying to find a THG Shuttle, and then dragging your clients the 3 or 4 miles away back to the tent in the middle of nowhwere. Again, let's recap...go to the actual venue website first. The classic (and only) rebuttal you will hear from the salesperson is that "you will get quality time away from the crowds" (boy, thats for sure), and that "the food is gourmet with executive chefs, etc..." Let me put it to you this way, would you want to leave the MLB All Star game and hop on a shuttle to get a better hot dog? Nuff said on this.

Secondly, I almost barfed when I read Mr. Meakins post about how much he cares about his employees, blah blah ad nauseum.. Mr. Meakins is one of the cruelest people I have ever had the displeasure of working with/for. He opens most of his friendly advice with, "no offense mate" (yes, he is a Brit, as is all the top echelon of the company) before completely offending an employee in front of whoever happens to be around, many times with profanity and disgusting references about how an individual is "bending over and taking it in the you know what," if that employee is not forceful enough with some random CEO that he has just gotten off the phone with. I really could write a book about the abusive treatment I witnessed from this individual, but don't take my word for it, call ANYONE that ever worked in the now non-existent San Diego, Houston, Cleveland, Madison, or Atlanta Offices. Oh yeah, by the way, those offices are all closed now due to the mass exodus of great people who got tired of being treated like bad kids in a detention homes.

Finally, I will respond to any rebuttal of the above notes. I doubt anyone will have anything to say besides the usual, "that person couldn't cut it, etc." Ultimately, if you think about it, none of the leadership truly cares if you leave because the company will inherit all your accounts, and most likely rip them off over and over again as they obviously were not too sharp in the first place or they would never have become a customer.

Zidane
Miami, Florida
U.S.A.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Jon Stromberg should be smarter than that. How to avoid getting ripped off:

AUTHOR: Thgtopseller - (U.S.A.)

Playing with fire is the best description for choosing to work for this company. The gamble could pay off, play your cards right, pretend to drink the koolaid and smile, sell your ass off and you might come out unscathed.

Truth, Lies, and Perceptions.

Truth:
You dont have your own computer.
It is a boiler room setting and selling.
You are fully responsible for all lead research.
There is no organized system for your leads.
You will lie.
You will be harassed, belittled, and embarrased in front of your peers.
You will be spied on.
The turnover is 90-95% first month in.
There is a new training class every month.
If you leave prior to payday, you won't get your money <---- very very important to note
24% is deducted from all sales.
You can make money, you really can. Just not a lot because 80% of your day is devoted to needless interruptions nit picking everything about your pitch, the volume of your voice (BE LOUDER!), and don't forget about POWER HOUR
T
here is no HR even if you wanted to complain about bullying, harassment, or the ongoing substance abuse in the bathroom.
Only Jon and Paul are making over 100k per year.

The person who is interviewing you earns between 30k-50k a year MAX but they will do their best to belittle you in the interview process. I won't repeat what has been stated above.
Curious to find out what 'top sellers' make?
Just ask to view the 'money list' then subtract 24% service charge, and multiply by the 10 or 12% commission. Top manager base is $2500 per month. You do the math. Most are struggling to keep food on the table, or up to their ears in credit card debt.

Side note to Ruben - Pierre 'kicking ass' and going to be running a team of 16 in Toronto? Not likely. He hasn't cleared 30k yet this year and could seriously use a care package as the job has sucked the life out of him and he has virtually nothing.
He too believed that he would be a manager and sent to Toronto and spent all he had on suits after Jon beraded him on the sales floor for his 'thrift store attire'.
So be a friend and be truthful, and it's ok to be happy that you are no longer there.

Lies:

1 - 63 offices WorldWide, there are 12 sports. In NA we say there are 8, truth is there are 3. *
(ATL failed and they shut it down. Walker quit LA and they shut it down. They closed Madison overnight and fired everyone.)

* This works for hiring as the 'hook' is expansion. Massive opportunities. Transfers. Management.

2 - 'We don't speak to marketing' the correction is YOU can't speak to marketing. All the leads you enter into datacapture are for marketing purposes. They will be emailed about different events each month as part of our marketing campain which you will never be told of. When a DM indicates interest, JON STROMBERG will call their marketing manager and BOOK YOUR LEAD. Don't believe me? Check ACT. Oh, right you don't have a computer.

3 - Annual incentives. The page you receive during your first interview. Best 'NEW BUSINESS' earns you a trip for two to Hawaii. Sweet. Except nobody has ever been sent. And I am willing to bet nobody ever will. Ask the people who were #1 last year, who wrote over $500k what great trip they went on and view the response.

Marcus Evans Important Tip: If you win an incentive, you must use your skills in urgency to BOOK THAT DAY. Otherwise, you will be given a multitude of excuses for why it hasn't been booked yet until enough time passes that you've forgotten about it or just quit.

4 - Opportunity to attend events. It's almost as rare as honesty from Jon.
In other words, don't bet on it. Very few go, and be thankful to not. When you see it in person, and have to explain poor stadium seats/service/etc to your clients you will be very happy to be hiding behind that phone of yours.

All 'ballroom' events (Superbowl, FF, MLB, etc) will have tickets split up in the corners and your clients will be fuming.

Perceptions:
Jon Stromberg is an absolute psycho. He has a very limited vocabulary that he SHOUTS. Ever observe his volume with James or Theron around? It's like all of a sudden the guy knows how to talk normal. Point being, it's all for show to intimidate you and manipulate you to write business so you can get the hell out of there asap, thus giving your accounts over to him.

Every day 8-5 there is the constant robotic shouting:
'be smarter than that!'
'go after it'
'have confidence'
'executive to executive'
'hit it'
'get some vibe'
'like'
'the right way'
'stick to the pitch'

Sean already did a great job explaining what an idiot Jon is. And thanks to the rip off report, even his old college friends now know what a moron he really is. There was one girl, Shannon who had a decision with a local Chicago business who happened to know Jon and did a google search of the company. Needless to say, he didn't book and she left the company in embarrasment.



A sales job is about money, it's about writing business, It's about the customer. Be forewarned that under Jon it's about your devotion to him. Join the cult and he will feed you leads. Blaspheme, write your own pitch, refuse to shout at DMs and you're on your own, kid.
You might think that you will be the one to reinvent the wheel or view risk vs reward as enough to stick it out. I did just that and I wrote, I got out and I found my integrity right at the front door where I had left it.

Just to know what you are up against -

In his 18 years, Jon Stromberg has hired between 4-8 people each month (per office).

Simple math take the average of new hires per month 6x12 # months per year = 72.
72x3 average number of offices through the years = 216. 216X18 years of Jon's service with THG = 3888.

Now it is sales, so be fair there will be turnover. There are 5 employees who have been with THG over 3 years.

My perception of the place may be just that, but I'm confident that I stand with the 3,883+ majority.

There will be much more to write later but I hope this helps. In truth, I feel bad for Jon Stromberg because karma does come around and I can't imagine what it will be like for him.
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