• Report: #160063

Complaint Review: Tahitian Noni International

  • Submitted: Sun, October 09, 2005
  • Updated: Mon, May 17, 2010

  • Reported By:plano Texas
Tahitian Noni International
www.tni.com Allen, Texas United States Minor Outlying Islands

Tahitian Noni International PYRAMID SCHEME DO NOT FALL FOR IT!!! Allen Texas

*Consumer Comment: This Person Is Not An Employee

*Consumer Comment: Physician Desk Reference Manual

*General Comment: Blessings and Curses

*UPDATE Employee: The truth behind TNI

*Consumer Comment: PDR - William

*Consumer Comment: Errors and misleading information

*Consumer Comment: There is a reason for the other ingredients.

*Consumer Comment: Noni Exposed on CBS Channel 2 New York

*Author of original report: Tahitian Noni Juice

*Consumer Suggestion: William - CINCINNATI, Ohio

*Consumer Comment: Customer Relations

*UPDATE Employee: TAHITIAN NONI IS A DOCUMENTED PRODUCT

*Consumer Suggestion: Naturally Noni Liquid Dietary Supplement $13.99 at Costco.

*UPDATE Employee: Tahitian Noni Is NOT a Pyramid

*UPDATE Employee: Tahitian Noni Is NOT a Pyramid

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I just today went on a so called seminar at some guy's house who was a distributor of this company. A lady named Pauline took me there. She didn't really explain to me what it was or anything. And I had to talk to her boss on the phone at 8:00 at night.

Anyways I knew from the get go that the business was a big lie. First of all Pauline is fat. She said she had been drinking the juice for a long time and lost a lot of weight. Well she must have been 400 pounds because she still looks fat to me. Also there was a lady there that stated she had authiritis in both knees and in weeks the pain was gone. She was fat too. And it didn't look like she lost any kind of weight. She didn't mention it either.

On a piece of paper it states all the sicknesses it helped people get over. Under obseity it says that it helped 71% of 4,181 people. Is that supposed to be a good thing? I really couldn't tell.

Then they started getting into how you get started. The idiot sponsor was reading right off the paper. And when he said that it was 45 dollars a bottle I almost fell out my chair. There isn't that much juice in the world worth that. Also to start off you have to pay166 dollars for a starter kit. Who has that kind of money? And who is going to buy juice for 45 dollars?

I did research on the internet and I found much cheaper noni juice that is 100%. TNI makes theirs with 2 more ingredients. 100% juice is exactly that. Shouldn't it be Noni Juice and that's it?

Then the guy had the nerve to say that if we were skeptical or felt like we didn't want to do it, then we didn't want to be successful. I caught pauline in her lie. I told her it sounded like a pyramid scheme. She said, "well it is a pyramid, but its not a scheme, and you do get paid."

Just don't do it.

Alicia
plano, Texas
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

This Person Is Not An Employee

AUTHOR: Rodney - (United States of America)

I looked at the results of the completed recount of the Florida election from 2000 involving Al Gore and George Bush. The US Supreme Court awarded a verdict to Bush. But that was not what the facts supported.

Whenever you hear anyone suggest an opinion, remember that everyone has the right to formulate an opinion. But look for the facts. With Tahitian Noni, look at the human clinical trials, patents, etc. - you know - facts.

As for the prison comment, Jesus Christ was tried, convicted, and executed. I live in South Carolina. False arrests are very common here. Stick with the facts of the product.

Rodney

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#2 Consumer Comment

Physician Desk Reference Manual

AUTHOR: Rodney - (United States of America)

Doctors use a PDR for those products that have medicinal value.  Tahitian Noni is the only product of its kind that I saw in the PDR.  Tahitian Noni has a tracking serial number on virtually every bottle that provides information for tracking every bottle's contents completely back to the plant and picker of the medicinal fruit.

I suggest strongly that you will get what you pay for.

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#3 General Comment

Blessings and Curses

AUTHOR: Rodney - (United States of America)

I read this report. But I did not read any professional reports or statistics that supported the authors conclusion(s). I have used this product personally and have had a favorable impact on my blood pressure, skin, and other health matters. I have also looked closely at the compensation plan and found no illegalities. Whoever this person was who wrote this piece is not in control of the facts. It is like a housewife performing brain surgery.

Information like this makes freedom of speech a "scary" proposition.

Rodney

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#4 UPDATE Employee

The truth behind TNI

AUTHOR: Carib-scam - (U.S.A.)

3 close contacts of mine are directly involved with the distribution TNI (Tahitian Noni International) products in Jamaica, West Indies. I first became aware of this fraudulent business when one of my contacts introduced me to a distributor, who would latter be arrested by the Police. This person spent an hour going over the business plan and said right-out "This is a pyramid, You work your way up from a such-and-such to 'diamond', etc." I also obtained insider knowledge of TNI including sales tactics, marketing schemes, etc. which instructed distributors to make extraordinary claims (IE, it will cure HIV, Cancer, H1N1, etc), after this I was shocked at what sales reps. for this so called company would claim to make a sale and the more sales and referrals you made the higher up the pyramid you went and the higher your "rank" became. The distributors even supported and encouraged unauthorized credit card transactions and other illegal & fraudulent activity's. Distributors would call a number at 8:00 PM EST once per week and would carry out a sales meeting with the company's president over the phone (IE, a conference call) which was said to be "top-secret"...


This company is full of criminals from around the world, many in the Caribbean such as Jamaica, Barbados, etc. and when one member or distributor is arrested by authorities, the arresting officers are bribed by these criminal distributors.
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#5 Consumer Comment

PDR - William

AUTHOR: Triunenature - (U.S.A.)

Know whats also in the PDR, while you mention it, Cocan, MDMA (Esctasy), Shurms, Acid... And the list goes on. Me and a good friend of mine heard the sales men make the same thing, saying how because its in the PDR it must be good. Noooo... There are plenty of BAD things in the PDR, lets put it like this, if the indended item has an effect on the body, its in the PDR

So dont tell me "ohh but its in the PDR it must be good for you"... Seaweed is in the ___PRD

BTW - William now that I got your attention, Pyrimad Scheme Illegal. Ok, I want you to call a Prepaid Legal Sales Person, and ask how there commission works (Pyrimad Schemes are sill around, and if done right, are perfectly legal)

Look, I'm not bashing the company, if it sounds like i am, i appolgise, i know nothing of the juice. Other than you can buy it at a much cheaper price.

** Note: TNI says they get there Noni from a different island and thats why it has its spiffy cure all properties (weight loss, allergies, energy, lobito,

I could care less. But William do some research before you open your mouth. As you told others to. Hey I know you cant buy a PDR, only Doctors and PA's have access to it, but maybe you can find a doctor friend to show you all that the PDR has and then you will realize that just being there doesnt make it good.

Thank you.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Errors and misleading information

AUTHOR: Rita - (U.S.A.)

I was recently approached by a woman who stated that she was wanting help with her business. When people responded to her ad, expecting a real business where they would be interviewed, etc., she gave a spiel about this company and tried to get them to listen to several three-way phone calls at that time. I let her know I didn't have time to listen to more information, especially one that is a recorded, call-in spiel. She attempted to answer some of my questions about the company but basically kept changing the subject and telling me that I'd be making tons of money with my own business (which isn't what I was under the impression I was calling about, as I don't want to start my own business), but that I'd have to front about $200 for a "sign-up fee" as well as an "initial product investment."

She asked me if I'd be able to follow directions exactly as they were given to me and not change anything in the manual, as this was not allowed.

Regarding the above information from Bill in Waco, Texas:

Bill, please note that "slander" is spoken. I believe that, in order to be grammatically correct, you are looking for "libel" here, as it was something that was written.

I also noted that in the last paragraph you state, "But hopefully, the next time you write something, you will inform yourself first, and possibly proof-read your comments for typos and very poor grammer. By the way, the only grammatical and spelling errors you will find in this writing are those in the quote I cited from your original post."

Before attacking others' grammar and spelling skills and seemings so self-assured that you are spelling and using words correctly (grammar), please note that you spelled "grammar" incorrectly, which is a bit amusing when you state in the next sentence that you yourself didn't make any errors.

That made it not just an error, but a glaring error.

As you can tell, none of us are perfect, but we do have a right to our opinion. Simply making spelling or grammatical errors does not make someone's opinion or experience less valid. I do appreciate the laugh you have given me today, Bill, with your spouting about someone else's errors and your assurance that you made none, all the while having two glaring errors in your own comment.

(By the way, I personally make no assurances that this particular comment is completely perfect. I'm human and I do make mistakes, even if I am an English teacher.)
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#7 Consumer Comment

There is a reason for the other ingredients.

AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)

First, you did not do "research." If you don't know what research is, don't use the word. Second, Tahitian Noni explains why they put "two other ingredients" in their juice. I quote, "There are no harmful additives, preservatives, sweeteners, or sugar in TAHITIAN NONI (R), only pure juice of the Morinda citrifolia fruit ("NONI") with added grape and blueberry juices to improve its flavor. (copyright 2003, Tahitian Noni International.)" If you drink pure noni juice one time, you will know why they add the others. If you can't stand the taste of something, no matter how good it is for your body, you will not drink it.

I did "research." I looked up Tahitian Noni, read their ingredients and explanation, then I reported on that research. Whether they rip you off at $45.00 per bottle is your opinion and you have every right to it. However, you should not be reporting it as a "scam" or even a "ripoff" if you have no proof that it is. There are many thousands of people who would strongly disagree with you. They have opinions, too. If you think Tahitian Noni is too expensive, don't buy it. Write and tell all your friends and anyone else to tell them you think it is too expensive. But when you report a company as a "pyramid scheme", as you did, you are slandering them and they could have legal remedies.

Additionally, when you wrote, "Anyways I knew from the get go that the business was a big lie," you slandered the company. They have a straight forward marketing plan without any deception. You buy the product and use it for one price. If you want to make some money with their company, you sign an agreement to buy a higher quantity of their product at a cheaper price and then you have the right to sell it at the higher price.

That is the way ALL legitimate businesses in the world work. All businesses are muliti-level. Theirs just happens to be of the type that regular people can get involved with the marketing of the product. Many, if not most of the people, do not make a lot of money selling it, but the opportunity, with considerable effort, is there.

I can not repair any damage you have done to that company with your misguided opinion about multi-level marketing. But hopefully, the next time you write something, you will inform yourself first, and possibly proof-read your comments for typos and very poor grammer. By the way, the only grammatical and spelling errors you will find in this writing are those in the quote I cited from your original post.

Bob,
Waco, TX
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#8 Consumer Comment

Noni Exposed on CBS Channel 2 New York

AUTHOR: Jane - (U.S.A.)

This scam was exposed by CBS 2 New York in Feb. 2006. I can't post the link here as it will be deleted, but if you google "tahitian noni cbs", click on the link.
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#9 Author of original report

Tahitian Noni Juice

AUTHOR: Alicia - (U.S.A.)

Okay where do I begin first of. Since I last wrote about the tahitian noni juice. I have tried noni juice myself and never said that non juice was bad. I dod believe it is good for you. The problem is that you all sell it for 45.00 dollars a bottle.

I have done my research and isn't noni juice supposed to be 100 percent juice? Then why does it have two more added ingredients? Real noni juice has a very bitter taste to it. I purchased some from hawaii where it is authentic. And it wasn't a cheap knockoff brand. It was very bitter and only had one ingredient, noni plant!

to the person that that responded to my rebuttal, I do very well have all of my facts and I'm not running off aat the mouth. When I went to that seminar and the two guys were telling us about the product and I quote he said" If anyone here does not want to partake in this opportunity you must not want to be successful". I never saud he called us stupid. Seriously how old are you? I was just telling my experience. And also from what I understand and kind of noni that comes from tahiti is not authentic noni. unlike the one I got from hawaii. And I saw tahitian noni juice at GNC isn't it from your company? It has added juice in there.

Maybe u should get your facts straight before you start running off at the mouth because it TNJ wasn't a scam. you wouldn't have gotten upset. You would have politey informed me it wasn't. Unless you feel guilty about something.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

William - CINCINNATI, Ohio

AUTHOR: Dennis Ray - (U.S.A.)

After reading your post we can see Tahitian Noni International may not hire the best educated or well versed in using the English language properly. I never said Noni was not good, read my post. "Noni is a good supplement but no one in their right mind needs to pay $45 a bottle". I said I read both labels, yours and the one at Costco. The labels read the same except yours is $30.00 more per bottle. By the way the CAPS key is the one under your left pinky finger, push it and stop typing in all CAPS, very annoying and impolite.

Ray - Tampa, Florida, that was a very good reply but I am afraid William will still not get it.

Regards,
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#11 Consumer Comment

Customer Relations

AUTHOR: Ray - (U.S.A.)

"I REALLY GET UPSET THAT PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS BEFORE THEY START RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS."

- Why do you get upset? Who are you to get upset. Running their mouths? Do you want people to remain quiet? These are customers and potential customers. They can express their viewpoints, opinions, experiences, and beliefs how they see fit, as long as it abides by the rules of this website.

"IT IS ASHAME THAT PEOPLE TRY SO HARD TO MAKE A BAD THING OUT OF SOMETHING GOOD."

- There is no shame in exercising our constitutional rights. This is what the website is about. To discussion the good and bad about particular products.


"NONI IS DOCUMENTED IN THE PDR(PHYSICAN DESK REFERENCE) BOOK."

- I can also provide you with plenty of documentation about your companies questionable operations.

" THIS IS THE BOOK THAT THE DOCTOR WRITES YOUR PRESCRIBTION WITH. "

- Wrong. Physicans use the book as a guide.
Training and regulation allows them to write prescriptions.

"THIS PRODUCT WAS INVESTIGATED BY THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL AND AIR FOR ONE WHOLE WEEK. "

- The discovery channel? While the discovery channel is mildly informative. It should be used as a secondary source of information with caution.

" I AM IN TOPGUN WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE MONEY EARNING ORGANAZATION UNDER TAHITIAN NONI INTERNATIONAL AND WE DO NOT DO BUSINESS LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL STATED."

- I have experience in network marketing ( information technology training ) as well. You responses are not indicative of a legitimate organization that cares about potential customers.

"IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE OPPORTUNITY YOU ARE NOT TOLD THAT YOU ARE STUPID FOR NOT SEEING IT OR TRYING TO FORCE YOU TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS."

- However, you get upset when people start running their mouths? It seems as if you implying stupidity for not seeing it. Your words, not mine.

"IT IS YOUR CHOICE."

- However, you insult people when they express their opinions. That is a choice people make, to speak out.

"I HAVE BEEN TAKING THE PRODUCT FOR ABOUT ONE YEAR I HAVE VERY BAD ALLERGIES AND I HAVE NOT TAKEN MY MEDS FOR A YEAR. I HAVE TAKEN OTHER PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE ALSO. THE SOFT CHEWS, THE NONI RESERVE USED IT IN MY COOKING IT WORKS GREAT. I ALSO USED THE SHAVING CREAM WHICH IS EXCELLENT."

- This sounds like an ad testimonial which is not backed by science. Do you expect people to believe you after you told them, ""I REALLY GET UPSET THAT PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS BEFORE THEY START RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS."

" TRUE THERE ARE ALOT OF PRODUCTS CLAIMING TO BE 100% NONI BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THERE LABELS IT SAY "KEEP OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN"
NOT GOOD FOR PREGNAMT OR NURSING WOMEN. TAHITIAN NONI DOES NOT HAVE THIS WARNING LABEL ON IT. "

- Good. I agree. All Thaitian Noni products should have these warning labels.

"TO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS PLEASE, PLEASE BEFORE YOU MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF BY MAKING STATEMENTS WITH NO FACTS TO BACK THEM YES OTHER PLACES ARE CHEAPER BUT NOT SAFER."

- You have not provided reliable and valid scientific research or evidence that proves your products are safe. "IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE OPPORTUNITY YOU ARE NOT TOLD THAT YOU ARE STUPID FOR NOT SEEING IT OR TRYING TO FORCE YOU TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS." <--- Really? hmmm

"DRINK THE JUICE (REAL TAHITIAN NONI JUICE)NOT FROM COSTCO, WALMART, OR GNC, ETC. IT HAS TO COME FROM A TAHITIAN NONI INTERNATIONAL IPC(INDEPENDENT PRODUCT CONSULTANT) "

- I have also done consulting work. Anyone can call themselves an Independent product consultant. It does not make the product safe to drink.

"FINALLY, A PYRAMID IS ILLEGAL AND THE EXAMPLE OF IT YOUR JOB ONLY THE BOSS IS GETTING RICH OFF OF YOU R SWEAT, NOT YOU!!!"

- If jobs are a illegal, then Tahitian Noni products would not exist.

- These jobs put food on the table, reasonable shelter, feeds our children, and provide a consistent paycheck. We pay taxes so that our children may continue to receive free education.


"DRINK THE JUICE (REAL TAHITIAN NONI JUICE)NOT FROM COSTCO, WALMART, OR GNC, ETC."

- "I REALLY GET UPSET THAT PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS BEFORE THEY START RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS." <--- Drink the juice?







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#12 UPDATE Employee

TAHITIAN NONI IS A DOCUMENTED PRODUCT

AUTHOR: William - (U.S.A.)

I REALLY GET UPSET THAT PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE FACTS BEFORE THEY START RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS. IT IS ASHAME THAT PEOPLE TRY SO HARD TO MAKE A BAD THING OUT OF SOMETHING GOOD.
1. NONI IS DOCUMENTED IN THE PDR(PHYSICAN DESK REFERENCE) BOOK. THIS IS THE BOOK THAT THE DOCTOR WRITES YOUR PRESCRIBTION WITH.
2. THIS PRODUCT WAS INVESTIGATED BY THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL AND AIR FOR ONE WHOLE WEEK.
3. I AM IN TOPGUN WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE MONEY EARNING ORGANAZATION UNDER TAHITIAN NONI INTERNATIONAL AND WE DO NOT DO BUSINESS LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL STATED.( IF YOU ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE OPPORTUNITY YOU ARE NOT TOLD THAT YOU ARE STUPID FOR NOT SEEING IT OR TRYING TO FORCE YOU TO GET INTO THE BUSINESS. IT IS YOUR CHOICE.
4. I HAVE BEEN TAKING THE PRODUCT FOR ABOUT ONE YEAR I HAVE VERY BAD ALLERGIES AND I HAVE NOT TAKEN MY MEDS FOR A YEAR. I HAVE TAKEN OTHER PRODUCTS THAT THEY HAVE ALSO. THE SOFT CHEWS, THE NONI RESERVE USED IT IN MY COOKING IT WORKS GREAT. I ALSO USED THE SHAVING CREAM WHICH IS EXCELLENT.
5. TRUE THERE ARE ALOT OF PRODUCTS CLAIMING TO BE 100% NONI BUT IF YOU ACTUALLY READ THERE LABELS IT SAY "KEEP OUT OF THE REACH OF CHILDREN"
NOT GOOD FOR PREGNAMT OR NURSING WOMEN. TAHITIAN NONI DOES NOT HAVE THIS WARNING LABEL ON IT.
6. TO EVERYONE WHO READS THIS PLEASE, PLEASE BEFORE YOU MAKE A FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF BY MAKING STATEMENTS WITH NO FACTS TO BACK THEM YES OTHER PLACES ARE CHEAPER BUT NOT SAFER. DRINK THE JUICE (REAL TAHITIAN NONI JUICE)NOT FROM COSTCO, WALMART, OR GNC, ETC. IT HAS TO COME FROM A TAHITIAN NONI INTERNATIONAL IPC(INDEPENDENT PRODUCT CONSULTANT)
7. FINALLY, A PYRAMID IS ILLEGAL AND THE EXAMPLE OF IT YOUR JOB ONLY THE BOSS IS GETTING RICH OFF OF YOU R SWEAT, NOT YOU!!!

PEACE,
WILLIAM GREENE
TNI IPC
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Naturally Noni Liquid Dietary Supplement $13.99 at Costco.

AUTHOR: Dennis Ray - (U.S.A.)

Costco = Naturally Noni Liquid Dietary Supplement 32 Ounces - $3.00 Off, Made From the Fruit of Morinda Citrifolia, $13.99, Item # 701108. The people from Tahitian Noni International claim theirs is different, better etc. We have read the ingredients on both, theirs and Costco's, SAME NONI. Noni is a good supplement but no one in their right mind needs to pay $45 a bottle, Go to Costco and get the SAME Noni for $13.99. I am sure the Tahitian Noni International folks that monitor the ROR will go nuts when they read this reply, who cares about them but them right? They are the ones padding an extra $30 a bottle to fund their pyramid pay plan. Costco is not an MLM so you pay what it's worth, $14.00!
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#14 UPDATE Employee

Tahitian Noni Is NOT a Pyramid

AUTHOR: Anita - (U.S.A.)

Tahitian Noni International is not a pyramid scheme. It appears the person that wrote the comments I am responding to was invited blindly into something she had no interest in.

I use the product Tahitian Noni Juice and I'm also a distributor.

Tahitian Noni Juice is a liquid dietary supplement and a very powerful antioxidant that is great for the body! In my own personal experience I find that it gives me lots of energy and I liken it to taking a vitamin.

The company IS legitimate and we have Tahitian Noni Cafe's in cities worldwide. Our company is 100% debt free and the means this person says they were introduced to the product and the company are not promoted by us!!!
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#15 UPDATE Employee

Tahitian Noni Is NOT a Pyramid

AUTHOR: Anita - (U.S.A.)

Tahitian Noni International is not a pyramid scheme. It appears the person that wrote the comments I am responding to was invited blindly into something she had no interest in.

I use the product Tahitian Noni Juice and I'm also a distributor.

Tahitian Noni Juice is a liquid dietary supplement and a very powerful antioxidant that is great for the body! In my own personal experience I find that it gives me lots of energy and I liken it to taking a vitamin.

The company IS legitimate and we have Tahitian Noni Cafe's in cities worldwide. Our company is 100% debt free and the means this person says they were introduced to the product and the company are not promoted by us!!!
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