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Complaint Review: Talent Rock Aka Fashion Rock
Talent Rock Aka Fashion Rock127 W. Church St., Suite 300 Orlando, Florida United States of America
Talent Rock Aka Fashion Rock ripoff Alec Defrawi and Armand Kulpa still on the payroll and do the dirty work for Lou Pearlman Greg MacDonald ordered Alec Defrawi to start websites against Rip-off Report and work with Steve Miller and Michael Zwebner Florida Assistant Attorney General John MacGregor's job is to hide the evidence of Bankruptcy fraud Florida Corruption Orlando Florida
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Armand Kulpa also takes orders from Lou Pearlman / Greg MacDonald via the Alec Defrawi cutout also. Kulpa has had no balls of his own since Dave Elliott forced him to abdicate his magazine under duress. Then he was perpetually ridiculed by Jason Hoffman for his low intelligence quotient: "(what the hell were you doing Armand- it certainly wasn't spell-checking Industry Magazine- so you have no excuse)"
Dave Elliott, convicted felon, is still on the payroll of Talent Rock. Lou lied to keep him around. First he was fired with Alec, who really wasn't fired, then two weeks later he was back doing the hard sell tactics. Elliott tell so many lies he can't even keep track of them all:
"You said I took money illegally from some fund associated with the Edge franchises. Jason [Hoffman], stop right now! I have never received a penny for all the training I did for those franchisees nor was I ever involved in any of the ownership or paper work. You mentioned you never got paid nearly enough for the risk you took. I never got paid at all! I'm not sure what you are talking about any risk you took. If you want to include me in all this just let it be known I am not Defrawi you hide behind everyone. I will be more than happy to grant live interviews and testimony about all I can to help stop the bullshit. I'm a straight shooter Jason and I thought you knew that"
I will be providing proof that this is a LIE by Elliot not only does Hoffman know it, but so does MacGregor. The proof I have already is in the possession of the Florida Attorney General's Office. I also have evidence that MacGregor tried to have the whole bankruptcy matter transferred to Florida. In his discussions with Hartman, the attorney for the Nevada trustee, Jeri Coppa Knudsen, it was learned that secret discussions with Pearlman's people made a slippery slope for negotiations and MacGregor backed out of the offer. Leaving Hartman out to dry with his client, Jeri Coppa-Knudsen. For more information, check out this report somebody filed earlier:
Now here is the interesting part of the private battle. Hartman thought he would get MacGregor back for backstabbing him and filed a subpoena to depose Mark Tolner. Although he was not the lieutenant who carried out most of the scams of the previous several years, he was the one they picked to question because they KNEW he knew all about the operations. CHECK!
Pete Antonacci takes the next move and takes the next two weeks to prepare Tolner for the things he thought might be on the menu. In order to do that he and his staff had to sift through over 80,000 pieces of information available publicly from the Florida Attorney General's Office in Tampa. It had been in Orlando, but in order to help Antonacci put this mess to bed, they had to move it away from the den of snakes. Tampa gave away the documents to Antonacci gratis who then shared it with Michael Zwebner's attorney. It should be noted that other people are charged for the very same disclosures.
Antonacci came up with the brilliant plan to have Tolner implicate Coppa-Knudsen in the conspiracy to cover the bankruptcy fraud. The irony is that the very same attorney who took the deposition was then in the position of preventing the deposition from becoming public. Hartman still has not release the transcription for entry into the public records nearly two years after the deposition was taken. CHECKMATE!
Alec Defrawy is a vindictive but effective operative of the Fashion Rock aka Talent Rock scam. He has been the scapegoat for the theft of credit card numbers and their abuse. For sure he is not the only one who has profitted. Perhaps this is why the Florida Attorney General's office turns a blind eye... there must be plenty of green to go around. That is why Antonacci and his SHIVER continue to circle... it is like the scent of blood.
Here is an example of the work of Alec, when his girlfriend tried to leave him. Not only did he send this email to Holly Spears' new pimp, John Stephen, but also to several of his friends. He was trying to screw with their minds, but it reveals much of the operation too:
"Hello John I just wanted to drop you a note to wish you and Holly a wonderful future together. Yes even though at this moment Holly is wearing a ring and thinking we are engaged, I have decided that the two of you actually will make a better match. Actually I believe the two of you really do deserve one another.
I also want to give you some advice. Now you may say that you don't need any advice from me. Keep in mind John that I am much smarter than you (that thought may have occurred to you on Monday night as you being held by the police).
Anyway, you are getting the advice. What you choose to do with it is your prerogative.
First some history as this letter is going to many friends and acquaintances of Holly as well as all your employees and some of your new pals.
As you are aware Heather (Holly's sister) called me and told me that the two of you were dating. This came as a surprise as I was pretty much living with Holly at the time. Holly naturally denied it, but admitted spending the night with you and the kids in a Hotel room. This lead to a fight which lead you and Holly to North Carolina (she said it was platonic, but her sister Sarah said differently). That in turn lead me to making a trip to Los Angeles to visit and old friend. Both Holly and I are sticking to the story that both trips were completely platonic.
Anyway after all that Holly and I had a long talk, I told her that I had decided to move to Washington D.C. to become a partner in a building company started by a friend of mine. I asked Holly if she wanted to move to Washington with me. She said yes and we planned to move their together with the children and start a new life. I told her that the only thing was she had to stop communicating with you. She swore that she would never have any further communication with you.
I asked her if she meant it and she vowed that she absolutely meant it and that was what she wanted out of life. I then told her that I would do everything in my power to make her and the children happy, but if she lied to me about you she would find out that I could be more manipulative than she was. She promised that she was not lying and that she would cut off all communication with you.
I soon found out that two days after our talk she and you had dinner. (This time Raegan told me). When I confronted her with it, she cried and said that she just ran into you at the mall and it would have been rude not to be friendly. We discussed what no contact was and she once again really really promised no further communication.
Well, the came Hurricane Jeanne. I went to see Holly in the morning and found out she had spent the night with you at the Ritz. She cried and said she had just been confused and was as sorry as she could be. She said she only loved me and that this time she really, really, really would have no further communication with you.
Then next night she was with you on your birthday. (I found that by reading a thank you email that you sent -I guess Harry is the only non stoolie in the family).
Once again Holly cried, said she was wrong and only attended because she had planned the party a long time ago. She said she was surprised you were even there (I know - your birthday). And she promised that she really, really, really, really would stop seeing you again. We spent the weekend in Boca and then she left. She also promised to cancel the trip to New York and go to DC to plan our new life together instead.
Naturally two days later she was with you again. She claims that that was the time you consummated the relationship
The next day she called me and swore her love. She said she was going to New York, but when she got back she would "hunt me down" and prove her love. Apparently it was in New York that you two started being a couple and as you put it she became your "girlfriend".
Now John at this point you are probably thinking that I am not smarter than you, far from it I seem to be pretty stupid. Well John I had made Holly a promise, one that I intended to keep. I told her that if she lied to me about seeing you I would show her that I can be a better manipulator than she is. I think you will see that I have kept my promise.
First I had to get the two of you lovebirds in a relationship. To accomplish that goal I invented Veronica. I told Holly if she went to N.Y. I would take Veronica to the Caymans (where her father owned a hotel) and never wanted to talk to her again. That was enough to push her into your arms and start your relationship.
Next, the trick was to lure her back. You had just taken her to New York, promised her a business, a life with you, were shopping for houses in the $750,000 range, and took her on a BCBG shopping spree to boot.. Pretty heady stuff for Holly and I had to pry her away from all that.
To regress a bit you should note that during this whole time she kept lying about seeing you we continued to profess our love and to see each other. She tried to keep both bases covered and she just felt I was that much in love with her. She did have previous experience to fall back on. When she did the same thing with Ryer (ask Nikki) about a year ago I ended up taking her back. Holly doesn't understand that when you weigh 295 lbs and have just lost your business your prospective is different than when you are at 200 lbs and your company has just signed a $50 million contract to build new homes in the DC area.
Holly thought that she could do whatever she wanted and I would just accept it and be happy to get her back. I'm sure she assumes the same about you at this point and from seeing you I'm quite sure as flawed as she is, it's probably the best you can do.
But back to getting her away from you. I had to diffuse the "Veronica" situation so I posted a card on her door when I should have been at the Caymans with Veronica saying that I didn't go. Then I took a page from your book give her a company. Hell since it was all BS anyway I threw in some zingers. Not only would Holly be a wedding planner as you promised her, she would be THE Wedding Planner. She would have her own TV show and website and be the queen of the industry. No trunk shows in Gainesville for Ms. Spears, oh no, she would by jetting the country doing the weddings of the rich and famous.
Of course I figured you would be skeptical and warn Holly, so I contacted a friend who represents Robin Leach. He sent Holly a tentative schedule and a contract for Mr. Leach to do a promotional tour which he would be co-hosting with Holly everyone was fooled it was a real tentative contract. I was concerned that we couldn't get anyone hipper than Robin Leach to go along with this, so I told Holly that we had determined that because Mr. Leach was so old his image of first class would rub off on her without taking away from the luster. She thought it was a brilliant move. Don't worry Holly is usually smarter than that, but her ego makes her quite blind. I also dummied up a potential contract which called for her to have a:
$100,000 salary $5,000 per month clothing allowance $5,000 per month for house and nanny
among numerous other perks
When she read the contract she actually bitched about the $5,000 about being too low and wanted it written in her contract that the company would secure a date for her on Regis and Kelly.
Of course the job was just the first step; the second step was the life (You know the house, ring etc).
I rented a limo and went to a costume jeweler and bought the biggest fake diamond that they had. .It fooled everyone .
I bought some toys for the kids and away we went. We took the kids for a limo ride to the babysitter and they opened the toys. Finally it was time for the ring. Now Holly has been studying rings her whole life, so she might ferret out a fake ring. I had the limo driver hand me his phone and say American Express was on the phone. Holly listened intently as I "confirmed" with Amex spending $71,000 at Cartier that afternoon.
Anyway ring on finger we went to the Westin for dinner. We went over her "contract" and then went to have drinks. I had alerted the bartender so she made a huge deal about Holly's ring "I though I had gone too far when the ring drew a crowd. If there was one jeweler in the bunch I would have been sunk.
After dinner we went downtown in the Limo. Holly mentioned that she had heard Paris Hilton was opening a club in Church Street. She pouted and asked why she shouldn't have a club. I told her that I had talked to the Blue Martini about opening a club in Orlando that Holly would run. She became excited and wanted details. I told her she was going to focus on her wedding planning business how could she start a club. She said she wanted to do both. I could barely contain my laughter and told her we would discuss that option later. Maybe after the wedding planning empire took of we could open the club (Maybe we could call the club Edge - ask Nikki John)
I know this sounds like a bad novel but every word it true.
Holly and I then went home and spent the night together. She was still unconvinced so after work I headed back to her place for the day were spent the evening together. You of course made your appearance.
Now from what she told me about you I knew you were a bit of a dope and somewhat of a sap, but even I couldn't predict how stupid you would be. You really thought it was a good move to come over, bang on the door, make death threats, and try to start a fight with two kids literally 10 feet away. Didn't you realize any rationale person would call the police? John if you had managed to kick the door in and get into the house I could have used any weapon on you (like a baseball bat) and it would have been total self defense.
The most disturbing thing about this whole incident is that Raegan (and to a lesser degree Harrison) will now believe that this I acceptable behavior. When you and Holly are back together Raegan will think a man can come to his girlfriend's house scream, yell, threaten, call her a whore, and scream how much he f***d her, then apologize and everything will be ok. Some women simply would not condone that behavior. They are generally referred to as ladies. The reason they do not condone that behavior is that their parents did not condone it. How will Regan grow up?
After your little escapade we made love and she professed again her undying love and her eagerness to start our new life together. She confessed she had slept with you but that it really "felt wrong".
That plan finally ended when Holly called you on Friday morning told you I wasn't there and that she ad decided to marry me. Of course I was right next to her as you discovered when you called back two minutes later and I answered the phone.
Now the kicker:
On Tuesday she found out that she is again pregnant (has this woman never heard of birth control. First Raegan's father, Harry's father (they are different Raegan's father is a random one night stand), Ryer (yes Ryer got her pregnant), now your child. Yes John it is your child.
The funny thing is her sister Heather (who also had two kids before being married) and she routinely make fun of the older sister April and call her the "slut" of the family.
She called told me she wanted an abortion and to keep you completely out of it I asked her if she planned to tell you and she said no, you would want to raise it with her and that was not what she wanted. After all she loved me not you and did not want a life with you.
John, I am not sending you this to try to break you and Holly up. She is yours I am out of the picture and I have no doubt she will sweet talk you back into her life. Here is how it will happen. You will read this, be a bit disconcerted, but let's face it your not a good looking guy to begin with and you are going bald. You will sense an opportunity to get her back, and you will rush to her aid.
Holly is the master of the takeaway (ask Terri). She will cry and say, you don't want me I'm a horrible person. No you will say Alec just abused you for years. But I have done so many bad things etc, etc, etc she will protest coyly. She will have you pleading her case and then she will profess that she really loved you best all along. That when she called you and said that she was marrying Alec and not to call her anymore she was just confused. That when she intentionally took me to a Bar knowing you would be there it was just an accident.
The problem will not be getting back with Holly, but this email is being sent to all her friends, acquaintances, and family. They will all know why she is with you and the history of the relationship. Every time you meet one of her friends I am sure they will be anxious to meet this John who is now at her "beck and call". You can see in the attached email what she sees in you. As long as you continue to grovel, call her sweetie, and say how high when she says jump I'm sure you will have a wonderful life together. I hope that self esteem is not something you value because everyone you know and work with will know what kind of relationship you are in.
You may think I am being mean and cruel by sending this email to you and her friends, but think about it. What is shocking, her behavior or the fact that it is down on black and white. Had she not decided to lie, deceive, and manipulate both of us this would have never happened and I could not have written this letter. If she stuck to her promises to either one of us again this letter could never have happened.
I am sure she will tell you that she was just confused about feelings she had with me and that she really was going to come back to you all along. She had just needed more time but you are what she wants. John you are going to want to believe it, so go for it. Ultimately what you decide to do will have very little to do with her, we both know what she will do, but it will speak volumes about you. I wonder how long it will take for you to be able to fully trust her.
But on to more important things, if you decide to be with her you are going to need a few things. One thing Holly says that she was upset with me about is that I never helped her (not even paying for a babysitter) when we were dating. For the record I would have but to her credit she never asked (and it was my failing that I never offered either). But hey John does days are gone. For you Holly will not come cheap. Below is what you will need:
About $500,000 for a house (you can finance that)
A Nanny - Holly is much too busy planning her future career to take care of her kids (let me know if you need for me to place an ad on Monster- it can be a wedding gift)
She wants a Powder Blue convertible Mercedes
A Diamond ring about $30 - $50,000(I think you have to get a real one, she is unlikely to fall for the fake one again)
A puppy for Raegan (It is at Just Puppies - $500)
By the way. I had to borrow her for one last weekend.
After three years I want one thing to remember her by. Holly has the potential to be vindictive and I had to make a Video tape together which I am quite sure she would not want bits of it released.
I am going to let her keep the ring as a souvenir (I just hope it doesn't turn her finger green). Now John, you may ask why I went through so much trouble. I really can't answer that. I suppose it is because I would have done everything for real if she had not done what she did. I was in the process of buying an actual ring and helping her start a business (without Robin or the TV show of course). At some point I felt that enough was enough. Anyway I suspect you are probably one of the few people that will be able to relate. I know you have had a taste of it, but I suspect you will go through much more. But hey consider yourself lucky if you do not end up like Jamie.
Oh, and for all you in the studio audience. Shame on you for reading this far! I am not sending this to her so whichever one of you decides to call her or email her a copy make sure she has someone with her.
Anyway to John and Holly I wish you luck on your life together and may you have Champaign dreams and Caviar wishes!
Alec is also tied up with some other Orlando businessmen, who are even rougher than Lou and even more connected. MacGregor does not even dare go near those operations. They make infomercials to sell crap to the naieve. Alec is so ballsy he tried stealing bandwidth using his crew, the Web Assasins aka Spectrum Dream; Svetozar Petkov, Iyad Muhanna, Wenner Obritzkoff, and Mike Danque. They were also the group involved in launching the denial of service attack against Ripoff Report last year. They think they got off scott free, but there are people talking!
Alec also keeps close contact with Bill Hoffman, [The General Manager of WFTV.] This ABC affiliate in Orlando was exposed by this website when they got Hoffman to admit to taking bribes to kill negative pieces.
[Ripoff report should put a link to that sound byte here.]
Bill Hoffman swore revenge and got Alec to put together a negative story on Ripoff Report. Next report will detail that conspiracy.
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