- Report: #718436
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Complaint Review: Terry Whin-Yates
Terry Whin-YatesVancouver, British Columbia Canada
Terry Whin-Yates Mr Locksmith, Consumer Scams, Education Scams and Business Scams Vancouver, British Columbia Canada
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Fight Unlicensed Locksmiths in Canada
*Author of original report: Terry Whin-Yates and Ken Lapp HOW TO REPORT
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Unlicensed ancouver Mobile Locksmith Ltd & Colin EVANS
*Author of original report: Check This Out!
*Consumer Comment: PROOF of Terry Whin Yates "Licenced Locksmith:" Review Fraud
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Unlicensed Vancouver Mobile Locksmith Ltd & Colin EVANS
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The Scam (actually Scams) of Terry Whin-Yates:
1. Locksmith Services scam: Terry Whin-Yates runs a locksmith service that sells false locksmith services. He advises on techniques such as:
1. Low biding, high billing
2. Unnecessary drilling and replacing applying additional charges
3. Up-selling unnecessary services and unqualified security advice to increases the sale
He teaches these techniques to those who buy into his business plan.
He uses the following individuals in this service:
Terry Whin-Yates, himself
Royce Whin-Yates, his son who does the Automotive work
Brian Whin-Yates, his son
Michael Lee, who bought into the scam and works out of East Vancouver
Jackie Wu, who bought into the scam and works out of Richmond
2. Internet Spam and dishonest advertising:
He uses an internet spam company called Standard Marketing run by Ken Lapp, and against the terms of service of these sites he practices the following "black-hat" techniques or tricks to fool internet browsers:
Keyword stuffing, writing unreadable material to fool search engines into judging
Duplicate sites, sites that are identical to each other in content to improve ranking as a group but failing to provide value to searchers
False Google Maps listings, using mailboxes as business listing to fool consumers into thinking he is nearby
Competitor Domain names, he uses the names of competitor locksmith companies to forward traffic to his site when they think they are going to a different company page
2. Locksmith Class scam:
Terry Whin-Yates teaches how to rekey a weiser cylinder for over $1000. You can buy a kit that will teach you this from most hardware stores for $20. He teaches little else of value if you are seeking employment in the locksmithing industry. There are legitimate courses available on locksmithing but they are rare and hard to locate. He takes advantage of this fact and offers a low value solution that could cost you a $1500 more than it is worth.
3 Locksmith Franchise scam:
Terry Whin-Yates is advertising a "Mr Locksmith" "franchise," in which he will teach you how to take advantage of the public using the methods above. This will cost you over $10 000. He will give you the impression of the profitability of this scheme with false statistics and by using his accomplices as examples showing them to be busy. This is all an act to obtain your money. The "franchise" has no support and the numbers are not authentic.
Better Business Bureau rating of F with 3 complaints unanswered:
Rip Off Report posting with screen shot evidence of his deceptive advertising practises:
Scam.com post explains the same as the ripoffreport.com post
Scam.com Post from a former customer who was video taped by Terry Whin-Yates and his son Royce Whin-Yates without permission:
Gigpark post by a former customer of "Mr Locksmith" with an interesting rant following in the comments section:
HomeStars review calls him a thief that cost the reviewer $2000:
Google Maps listing for "Burnaby Locksmith - Mr Prolock Locksmiths" with a UPS Store as the address:
Another Google Maps listing for "AA Automotive Locksmiths" at the same address:
Another fraudulent locksmith listing on Google Maps for "Mr Prolock Vancouver" also a UPS Store:
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/16/2011 01:15 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Terry-Whin-Yates/Vancouver-British-Columbia-/Terry-Whin-Yates-Mr-Locksmith-Consumer-Scams-Education-Scams-and-Business-Scams-Vancouve-718436. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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