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Complaint Review: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

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  • Submitted: Mon, December 05, 2011
  • Updated: Tue, February 26, 2013

  • Reported By: Gordon Hinckley — Ogden Utah U.S.A.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Salt Lake City, Utah Salt Lake, Utah United States of America

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints The Mormons Ripped off and stolen from by LDS Inc ,Mormon Church, for over 40 years Salt Lake, Utah

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*Consumer Comment: TRIGGER THE COLLAPSE POEM.....

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*Consumer Comment: POPE DOESN'T KNOW POEM.....

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*Consumer Comment: Its diaboical

*Consumer Comment: BLAME IT ON A LAWYER.....

*Consumer Comment: What little do people know

*Consumer Comment: Gordon Hinckley,

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I've noticed consumers posting about the LDS Church ripping them off.  I just wanted to post here that I was ripped off for over $100K in tithing which they require to be a member in good standing and that must be paid to go into their temples and ultimately get to heaven.  They do exactly what Martin Luther undid for Christians, charge for salvation.  In addition, I wanted to say it is a cult that will separate you from family and loved one if you leave it.  I lost family and friends and work and so on.

 When I learned about it being a fraud I tried to tell others and they just looked at me glassy eyed and said they knew it was true with smiles.  Unfortunately it is not and it is dividing families like never before, and using its money to build malls and church buildings and temples yet ignores the issues it would seem any God would be more concerned with like feeding dying children. [continued below]....
.....  I loved the church like everyone else until it unraveled and I was shocked to learn smart people refuse to look at fact that clearly shows it is a fraud.  For example in 1964 a major museum gave the LDS Church the original papryri for the "Pearl of Great Price" it completely shows Joseph Smith to be a fraud, even a five year old could see he got the pictures all wrong and so on.  But members aren't told and continue to pay in their 10% each month for the privilege of having friends and getting to go to loved ones weddings and so they won't smoother you with love.  Sick and wrong for anyone and anyone looking into it needs to open their mind as well as the "heart" and read the fact based information and evidence they continue to bury with smiles.

 Also, I need to say since I was 12 I have been taught their bigoted beliefs I'm now 43, it is treated as sacred not secret but then your told not to talk about it like that blacks are less valiant and gays are evil. 

The last thing I wanted to say is that the LDS church has nearly destroyed my life, job, relationships, and in my opinion the it's apostles and prophet know they are supressing the truth about it being a fraud and hurting millions.  I noted everyone is saying this is all political against a candidate.  My comments aren't and I actually think that candidate would do fine as President.  My only concern would be that he, like all temple going Mormons, has taken blood oaths to serve and follow the prophet before anything else including country...but I think he is smarter than that.  So no politics here just reporting lots of hurt and rip off by Mormons.  Get the facts before joining and don't get them from brainwashed indoctrinated Mormon cult members.


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#1 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Karl - ()

Do you think that future generations will be able to come to this site and read the thousands of Ripoff Reports and consumer comments in order to better understand that the American people and people in other countries all over the world were obviously being manipulated into believing in lies, and that is precisely why so many felt lost and confused? Feel free to share your thoughts.

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#2 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

I believe that the Catholic Church is one of the largest organizations in the world with about 1.2 billion members worldwide. You can 'Google' this- SECRETS OF THE VATICAN: FRONTLINE PBS, and watch that documentary on the web in order to learn more about the Vatican, which is the central governing body of the Catholic Church. Have a great day, and feel free to give us an update.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

It appears that Great Britain's top Cardinal also announced his resignation.

You can 'Google' this- BRITAIN'S TOP CARDINAL RESIGNS, and read the related articles and watch the videos that recently became available on the web. Have a great day!
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#4 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

You can stay at this website and type in- POPE, and read the related Ripoff Reports for important information.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

It appears that the Pope announced his resignation yesterday. You can 'Google' this- POPE BENEDICT ANNOUNCES HIS RESIGNATION, and read the related articles and watch the videos on the web.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

There is more information that recently became available which further proves Christianity has its foundation based on a lie.

Simply 'Google' this- NEW DOCUMENTS SHOW CATHOLIC LEADERS IN LOS ANGELES PROTECTED ABUSIVE PRIESTS, and read the related articles and watch the videos that just became available on the web.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

The foundation of the USA is also based on a lie. That is precisely why there are so many problems in America and all over the world.

You can 'Google' this- ALL READER COMMENTS BUSINESSWEEK MELISSA WOODS, and click on the BusinessWeek link and read the comment that was posted on May 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM for proof that the USA is a country that is based on a lie. (The comment is currently listed on 'Page 10' at the BusinessWeek article entitled 'There Is No Gas Shortage'.)

Fact: Four months later, in September of 2008, the stock market crashed and the banking system collapsed. On September 29, 2008, the Dow Jones lost a record 777 points and the banking system and several large Wall Street firms collapsed and had to be bailed-out by the American people with hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer's money from the TARP.

You can 'Google' this- FRONTLINE: INSIDE THE MELTDOWN, and watch that documentary on the web for proof.

Conclusion: What was posted in that comment on May 31, 2008 at 9:13 PM is no longer a theory. It is a fact.

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#8 Consumer Comment

TRIGGER THE COLLAPSE POEM.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is available at this website.

Just type in 269041 at this site and it appears in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #269041.

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HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
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#9 Consumer Comment

WORLD EMPIRE POEM.......

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

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Just type in 646259 at this site and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #81' at Ripoff Report #646259.

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WELCOME TO PLANET EARTH- ONE BIG LIE, AND JESUS KNEW IT. THAT'S WHY THE 'BIG-SHOTS' DECIDED TO HAVE HIM CRUCIFIED, BECAUSE HE WAS OBVIOUSLY EXPOSING THEM AND THE 'BIG-SHOTS' WANTED TO SHUT HIM UP AND SET AN EXAMPLE TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD SPEAK OUT AGAINST THEM
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#10 Consumer Comment

POPE DOESN'T KNOW POEM.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is available at this website.

Just type in 646259 at this site and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #89' at Ripoff Report #646259.

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WELCOME TO THE VATICAN- WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN PENN STATE UNIVERSITY BECAUSE WE HAVE ALSO BEEN COVERING UP SEXUAL ABUSE FOR MANY YEARS 
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#11 Consumer Comment

SIMPLY A MAN POEM........

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is available at this website.

Just type in 411913 at this site and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #67' at Ripoff Report #411913.

Anyone can 'Google' this- DOUGLAS REED- THE CONTROVERSY OF ZION- INDEX- SITE BY KNUD ERIKSEN, and click on Chapter 17, entitled 'The Destructive Mission' and read what is stated on 'Page 106' about Jesus.  

Make sure to read Chapter 15, entitled 'The Talmud And The Ghettoes' in its entirety to understand what is currently happening in our world today, and what was obviously happening 1,978 years ago, in 33 AD, when Jesus was sent to trial by the Sanhedrin and crucified for his 'crimes'.

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"Knowledge is power."

POWER TO THE PEOPLE
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#12 Consumer Comment

MARK OF THE BEAST POEM.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is available at this website.

Just type in 714284 at this site and it appears in the consumer comments section at Ripoff Report #714284. (Make sure to read Ripoff Report #714284 in order to see that the digits in the telephone number mentioned are sixes.)

Hey! If you type in 799959 at this site and go to Ripoff Report #799959 and turn the nines upside down, you also come up with the 'mark of the beast', correct?

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- ONE BIG DIABOLICAL LIE
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#13 Consumer Comment

Its diaboical

AUTHOR: MLS582 - (United States of America)

Protection Racket, if you hard that problem - extortion, I doubt you would go here>http://www.zzounds.com/cat--Protection-Racket--4028

Van der Sloot sues Chile over his extradition to Peru for murder trial
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/28/joran-van-der-sloot-lawsuit_n_1116638.html

Van der Sloot, a long-time suspect in the disappearance of American teen Natalee Holloway, is accused of the May 30 slaying of Flores, a 21-year-old Peruvian business student, who was found dead in his hotel room in Lima on June 2, 2010. Van der Sloot has been charged with first-degree murder and robbery in the case.

He has also been indicted by U.S. authorities for his alleged involvement in a plot to extort $250,000 from Holloway's family for information on her death and the location of her body.

After van der Sloot's arrest, officials in Peru announced he had made a full confession to Flores' murder. Van der Sloot said he broke Flores' neck in a fit of rage after she used his laptop to find out about his involvement in the Holloway case, officials said.

"I did not want to do it," van der Sloot allegedly said about the attack. "The girl intruded into my private life. ... We argued, and she tried to escape. I grabbed her by the neck, and I hit her."

He later retracted that confession.

If your mind is set on believing this psychopath and yet I can testify that Brigham Young is one and some others, I am one person out of millions, who know that.

To prove it, there must be facts, it common knowledge to them. He said it.

This is how psychopaths operate. They will deny reality until their victims have a nervous breakdown. Often, the psychopath will turn on the victim and claim that the victim suffers from "delusions" and is not mentally stable.

Therefore you need be sure of the facts, as people often say, to explain yourself better. Joseph Smith died June 1844, I doubt he told you how to spend your money.

Joseph Smith died June 1844 --- near 200 years will come and go and you will insist he talks to you.
 
Why should things be frustrating, just because you what it that way, every problem has a reason for being a problem. It depends on what your trying to prove, people are real, real things can be understood. Its better to understood than to guess or misunderstand.

A person that denies facts is doomed to paint itself into a corner, the intent of science is all about being aware of the world around us, a religion without it must therefore be closed to that world around us, therefore blind. While others have discovered the facts honestly, the science, the principles, the facts.

Some people have their opinions of Joseph, Joseph Jr, and Hyrum Smith, where does their faith come from, the fact is, it can be fact or fiction, a misnomer can exist, because we learn what reality is, that facts are not always facts, a paradox and supposition exists.

Two of the, most overused words, sometimes are: God or the Devil, yet many more words exist to describe them. Some say God is the forces of nature, some say its what they Got, some say people are "God", therefore being acts of pain and suffering, what there really saying is, a contradiction. God, is not the Devil, the Devil is not a person, just a person with a diabolical plan. Some say the psychopath exists in only 1% of the population, yet why is there so much deceit in the world. A psychopath is not a saint.

To some, to assume, or presume a psychopath exist, you take your chances, its a diabolical plan, it should be noted that not all people are good or bad, or expect all people to be the same, yet watch what happens when you spot one, then confront one, suddenly they deny everything. Watch what happens when you assume you spot one, people take them to court, some lose, yet some win. Therefore it must exist, to be presumed as one, or proved to be one.

People can see with there own eyes what happens in a religion, or deny the facts, I could point out what is wrong, yet there is good too, yet seems never there, its in that moment a paradox occurs. People, a person, or religion that presumes the facts, it can be fact or fiction sometimes. I find a diabolical plan, a deception created to effect public opinion, therefore some people to be indifferent towards Joseph Smith or Joseph Smith Jr. or Hyrum Smith and some others.

The purpose of life is to exist, to coexist, to find progress, to be progress, It may seem impossible yet someone is smart enough to do it. Then why do people contradict the process of learning with their diabolical plan or misunderstandings, If religion is about values, for example, truth and honesty and forgiveness, and schools be about learning too, some people would expect the truth from me, what would I be if not wise? Reality does exist.
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#14 Consumer Comment

BLAME IT ON A LAWYER.....

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

is the title to a consumer comment at this website.

Just type in 269041 at this site and go to 'Consumer Comment #3' at Ripoff Report #269041 to read "Blame it on a Lawyer". 

"JUDGE POEM" is also available at this website. Simply type in 502469 at this site and it appears as 'Consumer Comment #15' at Ripoff Report #502469.

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Just because someone is a "lawyer" or a "judge" doesn't mean a thing. As a matter of fact, most lawyers and judges in the USA are people who will do anything for the almighty dollar, even it means lying, deceiving, cheating, manipulating, and destroying innocent people's lives.

By the way, most politicians in America are, or were, lawyers.

WELCOME TO AMERICA- ONE BIG LIE
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#15 Consumer Comment

What little do people know

AUTHOR: Sheryl248 - (United States of America)

If we were Team members as church members we would use simple communication and be wise about things. Redemption comes from salvation, progress from success, there fore your right

I have two places that will explain the tricks that Brigham Young and his friends played on the public to ruin Joseph Smith, it proves Brigham Young and his friends, were psychopaths, that created a plan to gain control of the church, to eliminate Joseph Smith and take control.

It can appear, your nothing more than subjects, to please the ruler, wealth goes to them, yet its diabolical, there is good, yet there is bad. You can see the good the church does, yet faith can be fact or fiction. Because saints is a word, that describes an action someone did, yet you can find, psychopaths are not saints.

I can find, and you can too, that there are several versions of what people think of Joseph, Joseph Jr. or Hyrum Smith, yet people are only what they are. Some versions are different from what is more real to believe. What is the truth, the truth, or the lie, faith can be fact or fiction. People saw what happened, have faith in what they saw, or have faith in the lie they created, no one now can look upon everything that happened, yet someone did, either to believe the truth, or help continue a lie.

The following is a small amount to prove this, that was found here: http://rememberfather.blogspot.com/

Brigham Young "He dreamed of the kingly robe and the jewelled crown in some far-off valley of the Rocky mountains, where gentiles [people] or theirs laws could not annoy the [so called] saints, or hinder the normal development of [their form of] Mormonism. (The Mormon prophet and his harem; or, An authentic history of Brigham Young, his numerous wives and children. By Mrs. C. V. Waite, page 14)

Brigham Young wrote, "... I will show you the order of the Kingdom as regards my own family; one of my sons is placed here, another there, another there, and so on. Yet I should be their ruler, savior, dictator, and governor. They would have an innumerable posterity but all would join in harmony with ... This is the order of the Kingdom of Heaven, that men should rise up as Kings and Priests of God." (Brigham Young family (The Utah genealogical and historical magazine, Volumes 10-12. Page 111.)

Brigham, with true foresight saw his opportunity, and was not slow to improve it. [after he discovered Joseph Smith Jr. and Hyrum were dead] He came hurriedly to Nauvoo denounced Rigdon as an impostor and his revelations as emanations [to seem as if] from the Devil, [to make Rigdon seem foolish] cut off both him and his adherents from the true church, [the believers] cursed Rigdon, and [ridiculed, scoffed at, to use the phrase ]> "handed him over to the buffeting of Satan for a thousand years," and himself [Brigham Young] elected President by an overwhelming majority. This exhibition of energy silenced all opposition.(The Mormon prophet and his harem; or, An authentic history of Brigham Young, his numerous wives and children. By Mrs. C. V. Waite)

Mrs. Waite was a lawyer and the wife of Judge Charles B. Waite, a justice appointed by the Federal Government to the Territory of Utah. She had an excellent opportunity to observe Brigham Young and others while she lived in Salt Lake City.

Read her book Mrs. Waite was a lawyer and the wife of Judge Charles B. Waite, a justice appointed by the Federal Government to the Territory of Utah. She had an excellent opportunity to observe Brigham Young and others while she lived in Salt Lake City

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#16 Consumer Comment

Gordon Hinckley,

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

The foundation of Christianity is based on a lie. That is precisely why so many people around the world are lost. Jesus Christ was simply a man. A man who stood up against the 'big-shots' back in 33 AD. The 'big-shots' back then were just like the 'big-shots' of today. 

'Big-shots' are people such as politicians, priests, rabbis, CEOS, and any other person in a position of power. Power corrupts every person, to some degree. Corruption is one of the reasons that the USA and Europe are collapsing. Our politicians have been listening to their 'big-shot' bosses, who control the banking system. The 'big-shots' who control the banking system have destroyed millions upon millions of innocent people's lives in the USA, Europe, and all over the world.

Why?

One word: GREED.

It is now being EXPOSED for everyone to see. The worldwide web is awakening people to the truth. It is also awakening people to all of the lies. What happened 1,978 years ago is obviously happening again. Simply take a look at the unrest in the Middle East and all over the world for proof. People are fed-up with how they've been treated by the system that is supposed to 'serve' and 'protect' them. The 'system' really serves and protects the corrupt, greedy, deceptive, and manipulative people who are in positions of power, which some of us refer to as 'big-shots'. 

Jesus obviously stood up against the 'big-shots' and they didn't like the fact that he was exposing them. They had him arrested and put on trial for his crimes. Feel free to 'Google' this SANHEDRIN TRIAL OF JESUS- WIKIPEDIA, and read more about it. Keep in mind that Jesus was a Jew. He was speaking-out against the Jewish authorities, known as the Sanhedrin. (The Sanhedrin were the 'big-shots' back in 33 AD when Jesus was crucified for his 'crimes'.)

If you 'Google' this- DOUGLAS REED- THE CONTROVERSY OF ZION- INDEX- SITE BY KNUD ERIKSEN, and click on Chapter 17, entitled 'The Destructive Mission' and read the first two or three pages, it might awaken you as to what really happened 1,978 years ago. Then click on Chapter 15, entitled 'The Talmud And The Ghettoes' and read it at least three or four times, very slowly, until you understand it.

Guess what?

*History is simply being repeated.
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