- Report: #274323
Complaint Review: The Pingry School
| The Pingry School Country Day Drive, Short Hills, NJ And Also Martinsville, NJ
Short Hills, New Jersey U.S.A. |
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The Pingry School The Pingry School: Incompetent Teachers, Ridiculous Tuition, Cheated Children Martinsville/Short Hills, NJ New Jersey
*Consumer Comment: Bribes were Accepted at Vail-Deane to Raise Kids Grades!
*Consumer Comment: Solution: Install Surveillance Cameras in Every Classroom!
*UPDATE Employee: This School's Horrific LACK of an Apology to These Students Speaks Volumes
*UPDATE Employee: This School's Horrific LACK of an Apology to These Students Speaks Volumes
*Consumer Comment: Thinking twice about Pingry
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: school gives me creeps
*Consumer Comment: This School's Practices Could Drive Students to COMMIT SUICIDE!
*Consumer Comment: This Kind of Lack of Respect for Students is Dangerous
*Consumer Comment: When Carolyn Gibson Set Up Her Own Husband
*Consumer Comment: The Unevolved Mrs. Gibson
*General Comment: Myth-Busting
*Consumer Comment: MRs. Gibson Let Students Manhandle Other Students
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: A Word about Mrs. Gibson
*Consumer Comment: Suggestion to All: Rent the Movie "Scent of a Woman"
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Exclusive Private Schools were Set Up TO EXCLUDE
* : Of Honor Codes and Camouflage
*Consumer Comment: Personal Attack
*Consumer Comment: It's Pingry That Is Wrong in So Many Ways!
*Consumer Suggestion: This is SO wrong in SO many ways!!! (I'm on Pingry's side FYI!!!)
*Consumer Comment: The List of Incompetents who Allow Abuse of Kids at Pingry
*Consumer Comment: This is Child Abuse
*Consumer Comment: another awful Pingry experience - I'm glad this is getting out
*Consumer Comment: Pingry School Rap Song
*Consumer Comment: Pingry School Rap Song
*Consumer Comment: A STUDENT AT A PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR NEARLY A DECADE?
*UPDATE Employee: Yeah, go ahead and sue Pingry on your imaginary grounds
*Consumer Comment: Confirimed Sighting: Toshi Gibson's Business Really is Kaput
*Consumer Comment: Toshi Gibson's Business Has Been Closed Down!
*Consumer Comment: A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
*Consumer Comment: A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
*Consumer Comment: A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
*Consumer Comment: Pingry Creeps, You're Going on Report!
*Consumer Comment: JUST THE NAME OF THIS PLACE WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO AVOID IT!
*Consumer Comment: The Jig is Up!
*Consumer Comment: WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR MONEY FOR WHAT YOU COULD GET FOR FREE IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
*Consumer Comment: Get With the Program Yourself
*Consumer Comment: Get with the program.
*Consumer Comment: Expect Nothing from Private Schools Because You'll Get It
*Consumer Comment: Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
*Consumer Comment: Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
*Consumer Comment: Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
*Consumer Comment: Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
*Consumer Suggestion: private schools have good points and bad ones as well
*Consumer Comment: It's a FALLACY that Private School Tuition Pays for Access to the "Best Teachers Available"
*Consumer Comment: Additional Carolyn & Toshi Gibson Information
*Consumer Comment: Let's Sue
*Consumer Comment: Keep on Posting, Pingry People!
*Consumer Comment: Investigate this Pingry School Without Any Further Delay!
*Consumer Comment: Pingry School should be Investigated Without any Further Delay
*Consumer Comment: Wow, it's still the same, even 20 years later
*Consumer Suggestion: This School Sounds Creepy
*Consumer Comment: Carolyn and Toshi Gibson: Every Parent's Worst Nightmare Come True
*Consumer Comment: Pingry teachers are exemplary; Dr. Richardson is a great example
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My child wrote a composition in English class about another child she knew from our neighborhood. That other child was depressed and had a pretty bad home life. The assignment was to describe someone she knew and she went ahead and wrote the story of her friend. Well, the imbeciles running The Pingry School "decided" it was NOT about my daughter's friend, oh no, those geniuses "decided" my child was writing about HERSELF and disguising it as being about somebody else. This was ridiculous, but that's what they did, and the next thing my daughter knows she is being dragged off to see their in-house school psychologist, Richardson. Richardson-as-shrink was so horrible to my child that it's several years later now and she is not over his interference in her life yet. He came down on my child for being shy, for getting good grades - in a supposedly gifted school is that a crime? - for not being belle of the ball, for being a good kid, and for writing that composition about somebody else, which he and the school just would not believe. I've never seen anything so atrocious. My child says he made her feel like she was a piece of dirt, and instead of reassuring her that there was nothing wrong with her being the nice shy kid I had worked so hard to raise, he made her feel like she was, in her words, "a mental case." Richardson told my daughter and other kids he "treated" that they had "problems they didn't know about." Richardson is nothing more than a thief of children's pride, and so is The Pingry School for employing him, allowing him to do this to our kids, and allowing this kind of a witch hunt to go on, especially under circumstances this ridiculous as when a child simply expresses her thoughts about another child in a written composition in the first place.
And it gets even wilder and even crazier. I recently found out that another member of the staff over there at The Pingry School is one Carolyn Gibson. My friend used to work with Carolyn Gibson at another private school and said she used to be the biggest drug abuser in the place, if not on the planet. Now The Pingry School has got THIS particular "paragon of virtue" on their staff. And what are they charging people who want to send their children to a school like Pingry for the "honor" and the "privilege" of having their kids educated by a veteran burn-out like Carolyn Gibson? For the sixth grade, which Gibson teaches, the tuition to go to a soul-murdering school like Pingry is...$24,900 a year, plus extras! That's what. It's a complete disgrace. I am glad my child is out of there.
Also in one of the school buildings the Pingry Powers that Be were too cheap to build enough classrooms; they created "open classrooms," which means kids go to classes in the hallway. Yes, for that kind of money, in the hallway! My daughter and several other Pingry kids she knew from the school told me it was hard to concentrate with all the noise that goes on in those "open classrooms" from people passing by and from other classes. But that's the way they constructed their school for the "gifted": with several classrooms without walls.
I urge parents who are in the market to find private schools for their children to AVOID The Pingry School in Martinsville and Short Hills, NJ. What you will be paying for, if you send your children there, is your child's punishment. I keep hoping my daughter will get back to being her old self as she was BEFORE I was stupid enough to be conned into sending her to Pingry but it's a constant uphill battle and I will feel guilty about having subjected her to The Pingry School until the day I die.
Chocolate jazz
New York, New York
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 Consumer Comment
Bribes were Accepted at Vail-Deane to Raise Kids Grades!
AUTHOR: furiousmay - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 09, 2013
POSTED: Saturday, February 09, 2013#2 Consumer Comment
Solution: Install Surveillance Cameras in Every Classroom!
AUTHOR: hopespringseternal - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 28, 2012
POSTED: Thursday, June 28, 2012#3 UPDATE Employee
This School's Horrific LACK of an Apology to These Students Speaks Volumes
AUTHOR: emm - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 04, 2011
POSTED: Tuesday, October 04, 2011I know well the subject of which I speak. One of the teachers who people are writing complaints about on this thread gave me nothing, absolutely nothing, except repeated emotional abuse every day. Severe emotional abuse. Severe and needless. Daily, too. These complaints are valid. I know because I lived through a version of them from that sicko myself. That psychotic freak tried to break my spirit repeatedly.
Do you see any apology here, though? Does the school headmaster apologize? Does the administration? Do the teachers who are mentioned on here by name stand up and admit they were wrong and apologize? Do they even try to explain themselves? I don't believe there is ever any excuse for the sort of abuse of kids that I went through or that others have detailed on here, but wouldn't you think these jerks would at least try to say something about why they did what they did? They know they've hurt the kids. So? Where are the Pingry staff members who did all this? Do they stand up and say something to try and repair their damage to us? Or are they at home tonight, cowardly feigning innocence on the outside while they know good and well they've actually already been exposed on here for who and what they truly are on the not-too-well-hidden-anymore inside?
#4 UPDATE Employee
This School's Horrific LACK of an Apology to These Students Speaks Volumes
AUTHOR: emm - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 04, 2011
POSTED: Tuesday, October 04, 2011I know well the subject of which I speak. One of the teachers who people are writing complaints about on this thread gave me nothing, absolutely nothing, except repeated emotional abuse every day. Severe emotional abuse. Severe and needless. Daily, too. These complaints are valid. I know because I lived through a version of them from that sicko myself. That psychotic freak tried to break my spirit repeatedly.
Do you see any apology here, though? Does the school headmaster apologize? Does the administration? Do the teachers who are mentioned on here by name stand up and admit they were wrong and apologize? Do they even try to explain themselves? I don't believe there is ever any excuse for the sort of abuse of kids that I went through or that others have detailed on here, but wouldn't you think these jerks would at least try to say something about why they did what they did? They know they've hurt the kids. So? Where are the Pingry staff members who did all this? Do they stand up and say something to try and repair their damage to us? Or are they at home tonight, cowardly feigning innocence on the outside while they know good and well they've actually already been exposed on here for who and what they truly are?
#5 Consumer Comment
Thinking twice about Pingry
AUTHOR: BFFMom - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 26, 2011
POSTED: Sunday, September 25, 2011Thanks for all the constructive comments. From what I have read on other blogs, there are also plenty of happy and unhappy former students and parents at the Short Hills elementary and high school as well as the Summit high school (something about a massive drug-dealing ring within the school?) Oh well. Home-schooling is not an option so will have to make a choice soon as the confusion is delaying our selection of a house!
#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company
school gives me creeps
AUTHOR: sonny - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 30, 2011
POSTED: Wednesday, March 30, 2011#7 Consumer Comment
This School's Practices Could Drive Students to COMMIT SUICIDE!
AUTHOR: reasonvox - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 08, 2010
POSTED: Wednesday, December 08, 2010#8 Consumer Comment
This Kind of Lack of Respect for Students is Dangerous
AUTHOR: tigereye - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 25, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, March 25, 2010#9 Consumer Comment
When Carolyn Gibson Set Up Her Own Husband
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 21, 2010
POSTED: Sunday, March 21, 2010When Mrs. Gibson was trying to get me in trouble way back when, also over nothing, as the previous person on here also experienced, she took it upon herself to write a letter about me, but claimed falsely that she was writing it because her husband from Japan "could not write it himself." A few months earlier he had written a rather funny entry to me in perfectly spelled and grammatical English in my yearbook, but she claimed he "couldn't write" and wrote me up nastily "for him." My family members and I always thought he probably had nothing to do with it, and that it was all her idea, done just to cause trouble, since if she adored anything, it wasn't her husband, obviously, since she didn't hesitate to set him up, no, it was causing trouble. To her, maybe this was even power. She probably also thought it made her important. If her husband had truly wanted to write anything, he was perfectly capable of doing it for himself. After all, he was about 30 at the time, not 3! Yet she didn't hesitate to make a fool out of him, an idiot. I didn't like him, but I pitied him. If Mrs. Gibson were to have the courage to read this, which I doubt she possesses, but if she did, I wonder how important and powerful she'd feel now, to know the kiddies are finally opening up and and shouting about all this and more.
Now what were you people saying about your teachers and their noble little mighty and marvelous Honor Code?
#10 Consumer Comment
The Unevolved Mrs. Gibson
AUTHOR: alsoanonymous - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 20, 2010
POSTED: Saturday, March 20, 2010A friend let me know there's a report on here saying Mrs. Gibson never harmed students. Whoever wrote that, you couldn't be more wrong.
Mrs. Gibson had a beef with my parents. I think it was pure jealousy in origin. They did better in life than she did. So she started saying I was this big problem child, that I was doing things I had never done in my life. She lied. She lies like a rug. She convinced everyone at the school that I had "a problem," even though I didn't. She said I had ADHD. I didn't.
I had to go to doctors. I even had to get an EEG when I was just a kid, get hooked up to a machine where they monitor your brain waves with electrodes, like science fiction, which terrified me. All for Mrs. Gibson! All to shut Mrs. Gibson up!
The results of the test were that there was nothing wrong with me. The doctor said the only thing he could see wrong was that school! I got transferred out but while I was still there I was getting sick to my stomach in the morning before having to come face to face with Mrs. Gibson the Unevolved. The only "big problems" I had were the ones she was making up to "get to" my parents!
Now I find all this written here and I am so glad that the story is finally coming to light. There's another thread saying the school went and gave Mrs. Gibson a free trip to China. They need to face what's really going on and the real character, or rather lack thereof, of the people like that who are on their faculty. In the end it's the students who are losing out.
#11 General Comment
Myth-Busting
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 05, 2010
POSTED: Friday, March 05, 2010#12 Consumer Comment
MRs. Gibson Let Students Manhandle Other Students
AUTHOR: emilypost - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 02, 2010
POSTED: Tuesday, February 02, 2010#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds
A Word about Mrs. Gibson
AUTHOR: Aberdeen - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 07, 2010
POSTED: Thursday, January 07, 2010I knew Carolyn Gibson. I wanted to caution all of you. You are right to question her right to influence children but she responds to direct confrontation by feigning victimhood. She is doubtlessly using the concept that she has been reported on Ripoff Report to create a Mittel European opera about herself. I can hear her crying that she's a victim already. She always did. It will be an amazingly convincing performance, and entirely false.
Carolyn Gibson does need to be stopped. Oh yes. But she will cry that she is being victimized by the writers of the reports. I almost wish I could watch it. It's her one and only hope to beat this.
Carolyn Gibson had issues that should have been addressed long ago by professionals. Make no mistake. Do not be taken in.
#14 Consumer Comment
Suggestion to All: Rent the Movie "Scent of a Woman"
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 27, 2009
POSTED: Friday, November 27, 2009I hope things have gotten better at the school, but if they haven't, remember that, "Sooner or later, ALL tyrannies crumble!" It happened to Mussolini. It happened in East Germany and brought down the Berlin Wall. It can even happen at a private school.
#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Exclusive Private Schools were Set Up TO EXCLUDE
AUTHOR: Bubblingbrownsugar - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 08, 2009
POSTED: Sunday, November 08, 2009I want to point something out: exclusive private schools with a long history were not set up, initially, for academic purposes at all. They were set up for one reason and one reason only: TO EXCLUDE any student who was not a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant. To the WASP founders of these places, the very idea of letting their WASP offspring mix with "the lower classes," by which they meant "anybody who wasn't a fellow WASP," like the American students whose roots were in Africa, Asia, Mediterranean Europe, etc. Pingry and schools like it were not founded on egalitarian principles. Just the opposite.
They were founded as racist institutions and their main agenda was to keep out the children they considered "rifraff" and "scum." I even heard faculty members using the term "scum" to describe some of the children who came in there after it was integrated.
If your son or daughter is considered "scum" by the people who still predominate at such schools, and the WASPs do still predominate, then no matter how much tuition you are paying to get him or her in, the child will be considered potentially "problematic" before he or she ever opens his or her mouth to say so much as one single word. Of course such places have psychologists on their staffs to negatively single out these children. The whole idea is to get the parents to withdraw the "lowlife" children from the school. It isn't even to help them. This cannot be done directly, only indirectly. Most of the ones who were being referred did not need help. They just didn't have the correct pedigree and didn't fit in with the WASPs. Most parents won't stand for their children being negatively labeled and will withdraw them. That is the whole idea.
I had to laugh out loud when reading one of Pingry's diversity measures on their website. It concerned embracing diversity because the students need to learn how to navigate in a diverse world. It didn't mention embracing diversity because to do so is right.
I caution everyone on considering any of these old-time WASP schools for their daughters and sons.
#16
Of Honor Codes and Camouflage
AUTHOR: Malibu cliffs - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 31, 2009
POSTED: Monday, August 31, 2009I have to wonder if students are really filing some of these "honor code" rebuttals or if it's faculty members themselves. It's all too painfully clear from what the rest of the students and parents are writing over here that there are faculty and staff at this school who are seriously damaging the students, and it seems to me there is no "honor code" anywhere that can justify that. In fact, it's laughable.
#17 Consumer Comment
Personal Attack
AUTHOR: Spain92 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, November 08, 2009
POSTED: Monday, July 27, 2009Let me begin from the end. I recently graduated The Pingry School a member of the Cum Laude Society, captain of the perennial champion soccer team, and have moved on to study at a pretigious Ivy League school.
Now let me explain how I got here. Often I think about my alma mater Pingry, and I happened to Google just the name -"pingry." I then scrolled down to the link to read some horrible things being said about the private institution that I have grown to love.
Don't get me wrong, I am not in love with the idea of private schools, I often find the tuition does not justify the difference in the the quality of education between public and private schools. And this is exactly the argument that I presented my parents with in 8th grade, when they had decided that I leave the Bridgewater public school system and enroll at Pingry. I had spend 9 years in my beloved Bridgewater school system and I found nothing wrong with it. And to tell you the truth, if you are a self motivated student who doesn't require extra help often, then public school and private school are not that different (except I found out later that the material in parallel classes at BR and pingry were much much more advanced at pingry)
Needless to say, there were tears almost everyday during my summer before 9th grade at pingry. Moreso than anyone else I knew, I wanted to stay at my public school and not go to Pingry. It would take a lot to convince me to stay at Pingry, let alone enjoy it. In fact, the first few weeks I demonized the school, didn't even try to make friends, and stayed to myself, believing that I would leave the school after a few months.
But there was some kind of turning point. Even to this day I can't pinpoint the event, time, or place where the psychological turnaround took place, but I remember feeling angry that I could not help to love the place that I was dropped off at every morning at 8 am. I developed a habit of staying late at school (until about 6pm) every day to be with friends, see teachers, play sports, and do homework. I do not want to bore my audience with sentimental feelings about my old school, so I will just continue with a concrete list of the top things that make Pingry an incredibe institution full of incredible people.
1. Honor Code
You don't need to attend Pingry to know what the Honor Code is. You do, however, need to attend Pingry to understand how it permeates through the entire school. The heirarchy of student, teacher, administrator is blurry at Pingry because everyone is bound by the Honor Code, which gives the student an incredible and deserved amount of freedom at Pingry. No matter who you are at Pingry, you feel important.
2. The Faculty
Like many of my classmates, I took the time to get to know every single one of my educators at a more personal level. I would ask them why they dont teach at public schools if they would get paid more there. The common response would always be that teaching Pingry students (we're a strange breed, so competetive and college oriented) is a pleasure, and the difference in pay does not make up for the fact that a good percentage of the kids in any public school are uneducateable delinquents, in every sense of the word. Simple economics- everyone strives for maximum self benefit, and obviously teaching the bright kids at Pingry is worth the decrease in pay.
And what is this garbage about teachers not having college degrees. Visit the Pingry website to find a list of teachers and the colleges they attended. Please do not make things up because at the bottom of these posts, youre required to attest that everything you've written is true.
And a side note about the psychiatric services offered at pingry. I understand that Dr. Richardson and Mrs. Lionetti have been sufficiently demonized on this website, and I won't even argue with the people who say that they are horrible counselors because I have heard mixed opinions from many many students during my 4 years at pingry. And I will even go on to say that Psychiatric services are NOT for everyone, especially those offered in the school environment. No one is forced to see Dr. Rich or Mrs. Lionetti EVER. After the sudden death of my good friend John Taylor Babbitt (God rest his soul), my friends and I were approached by Dr. Richardson and while many students decided they needed his help, many also refused (like i did) and that was the end of it. I was approached a few more times, but I took this as a caring gesture more than a prying and invasive thing. Every student has the right to refuse school psychiatric help, and it is ridiculous that one would leave a school because of it. Of course anyone can twist a story like this to make the school counselors seem "creepy" or "intrusive" but that just proves that these whiny parents really don't know what they're talking about.
The Facilities-
Whoever wrote that the guy who designs malls also designed Pingry is totally right. I think the school is ugly and at times the layout of the classrooms makes things noisy. But in case you oldies forgot, "open classrooms" were one of the innovative teaching methodologies with which hundreds of schools experimented in the 70's. The open-air system was just another idea like the Harkness Table (a circular table that provides a more dicussion oriented teaching experience, rather than straight lecture) which has become very popular. So do not fault the school for trying to have an open-air design initially because that was most likely experimental. Also, there are no "open" classes there today. Everyone uses a classroom. But discouting aesthetics, the Pingry School has an amazing facility. Students can relax and do most of their homework on couches, Wi-Fi reception is perfect throughout the whole building, the computer labs (there are three full sized computer labs) are kept up to date with new software, and there are a few laptop carts that come in handy when doing labs.
The College Counseling-
The college counseling staff at pingry really made my senior year at pingry memorable. No one can argue that their isnt enough focus and available help when it comes to making one of the most important decisions of a young person's life. Pingry has harbored some of the brightest kids in New Jersey, and its reputation among college admissions is extremely high. I have heard a few of my peers complain that some of the college counselors aren't as helpful with athletic scholarships or athletic support by colleges, but that can be easily attributed to the fact that students are required to communicate with college coaches much earlier than they are assigned a college counselor at school. However, the addition of a Mr. Tim Lear (a Pingry and Princeton alum) has proved invaluable. He is extremely knowledgable about the entire college admissions process from start to finish and it was an incredibly comforting experience having him guide my college decisions. If your son or daughter needs the VERY BEST in college counseling, the Pingry School has the only Mr. Tim Lear in the world. The rest of the staff is highly knowledgable too, although it is clear that Tim Lear runs that department. This is probably one of Pingry's strongest attributes.
BOTTOM LINE:
The person I am now has been molded for four critical years by the pingry school. The person I am now has been a member of the Pingry community and it has become my closest and most supportive family. Anyone on this website attacking the Pingry School is making a personal attack on me as well as all my peers who have become better people by attending this school. The negative comments made about the quality of the faculty need to be cast aside by more people like me who know those allegations to be false. The supposed flawed architecture of the school doesn't make this school different than any other since there are no open classrooms. Most importantly, I need to make it known that the title of this thread -"The Pingry School The Pingry School: Incompetent Teachers, Ridiculous Tuition, Cheated Children Martinsville/Short Hills, NJ New Jersey The Pingry School" is utterly absurd and puts me on the verge of nausea. It is an insult to my intelligence and dignity to be told that I have been scammed or "cheated" in some way. To have some overly vociferous parents slander such an institution should be a crime. Thankfully I am certain that the Pingry School's reputation is golden and cannot be tarnished by the allegations made by some on this website.
Frankly surprised at how bad that rap was in a previous post. Not sure who would waste their time doing something like that and posting it as if it were important.
#18 Consumer Comment
It's Pingry That Is Wrong in So Many Ways!
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 03, 2009
POSTED: Friday, April 03, 2009I would like to suggest that Pingry's administration take the time to look up the term "iatrogenic." It means that the cure is causing the problem, and it sounds like that's what's happening there with all the amateur "psychotherapy" that the kids are having forced down their throats.
I would also like to suggest that Pingry's administration look up the reptile "Eastern Diamondback Rattlesnake." I already know for a fact that you have got one on your staff and that she should have been removed from any environment allowing her to have even a modicum of interaction with children a good long time ago. She goes by the name of Gibson and if she hasn't coiled up and struck one of the children yet, you've been lucky so far, but wait.
I agree with the person who said that Pingry needs to wake up.
#19 Consumer Suggestion
This is SO wrong in SO many ways!!! (I'm on Pingry's side FYI!!!)
AUTHOR: Mystic Spiral - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 31, 2009
POSTED: Tuesday, March 31, 2009The second reason is that I do not want to seem as if I am only writing this, because I am some "brainwashed" student who has been at Pingry all their life. Actually. I AM a brainwashed Pingry student (along with both of my older sisters, who have both gotten into very wonderful schools that would make people envious--or maybe not. I am not sure of everyone's preferences to colleges, but my sisters are definitely happy and they both got into their number one choices), and I am darn proud of it. Here's why:
At the Pingry School, we have a little (well, rather a big thing) called the honor code. Everyone at Pingry follows the honor code, and if anyone does otherwise, they will be punished. Please do not turn the honor code we have into something with impossible standards of being perfect and sociable. It is rather a code that students (and all faculty) MUST follow, and is not only the rules of the school, it is the guidlines of your life. It includes the golden rule. Treat others the way you would like to be treated. It is honestly not about making sure that everyone is out spoken and talks all the time. Actually, talking in class is discouraged if you do not raise your hand or if you are not working in a group, doing some project of some sort.
If Dr. Richardson pulled your daughter aside, then it was for good reason. He was only trying to help. It is not healthy to surpress things, and being shy is sort of a bad thing. I am a very shy person. I was never told by a faculty member, that I should change at all. I sort of which that they would help in a way, because being out spoken helps you get to certain places in life that you would not get to if you were in a fetal position on a corner (,but of COURSE I am NOT saying that your daughter was like that at ALL, and I am sorry if that's what I came across as with that statement). Oh, and by the way. The honor code is made by the students, and it edited every so often by the students to get everyone's (including newcomers') input.
The people of Pingry (from guidence counselors, to advisors, to peer leaders, and even any teacher or coach or nurse, any faculty member, that a student is confortable with) are there to help students with ALL of their problems; from school work, to social aspects of their lives, they are there for every student.
I may be a brainwashed, but I am full of Pingry Pride. Mrs. Gibson was a wonderful teacher. So what if she was a drug addict; which is something that I have NEVER even thought of until know. Another rebuttal mentioned something along the lines of private schools hiring people to teach that never got their "liscence" or what ever. This is true, but Pingry only hires the best teachers, in my opinion. There is one teacher that did not get his liscence (but he most definitely graduated from college. Pingry would never do THAT), BUT he was very well educated in the subject he taught, because he worked for a very good buisness. Then when he was done working there and wanted to move on to other things, he chose to work at the Pingry School. In my opinion, as well as many others, he is a fabulous teacher, and he probably knows more about the subject, because he lived it and worked with it for many years. He didn't just learn about it like other teachers right out of graduate school.
Regardless. I really do not care if everyone disses the Pingry School. You can if you would like, but please do not sue the school, because of some claim of something that does not reflect the school's teachings. I cannot imagine the Pingry School being hurt in any way, because of something that is so small.
Oh. And one other little thing. Pingry is definitely not running low on funds. We just added the new middle school, which is fully equiped with high-tech devices, WiFi all around, and the best couches in the history of any school (Haha! They are really nice, though. Please do not use that against me or Pingry, saying that I am using any excuse to defend such a wonderful school.) Also, we added a new turf field. The only reason why I say these is, because I am defending the remarks of Pingry's "low budget."
Pingry is most definitely an envied school. Just google "Pingree." It is a school created by a man who was a student at Pingry, I believe. He is now the headmaster, or was the headmaster. I am not sure, because I am too focused on and too in love with PingrY to think about any other school.
Thank you for reading this, and I hope that you will neither do anything to harm nor say anything that abates Pingry or Pingry's reputation.
#20 Consumer Comment
The List of Incompetents who Allow Abuse of Kids at Pingry
AUTHOR: Gingerbread - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 24, 2009
POSTED: Tuesday, March 24, 2009Nathaniel Conard, Headmaster; Theodore Corvino, Head of the Lower School; Jonathan Leef, Head of the Middle School; Denise Brown-Allen, Head of the Upper School; John Pratt, CFO; Reena Gold Kamins, Director of Admissions,among others; and on the Board of Trustees who are also doing nothing to stop what is going on at Pingry we have John B. Brescher; John W. Holman III; Edward S. Atwater; Alice F. Rooke; and Harold Borden, among others.
Evil thrives when good people do nothing and none of you have been doing anything to stop what is going on at Pingry so why don't you do the right thing for the sake of the students AND RESIGN! An immediate resignation should also be tendered from Michael C. Richardson, Patricia A. Lionetti, and Carolyn D. Gibson. The best thing all of you could do is leave and if you really cared about the students you would have done so a lot sooner. You're all pathetic, all of you, administration, board members, those three sick staff members, all. Have the sense to go work for a place like AIG or Bernie Madoff where all you can destroy are finances, not our children.
#21 Consumer Comment
This is Child Abuse
AUTHOR: Orishachango - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 22, 2009
POSTED: Sunday, March 22, 2009I was also the target of faculty abuse. Was I ever! There were faculty members that were worse bullies than the kids. From kids it's wrong but developmentally normal, but when it's coming from faculty members, bullying and abuse is just plain sick, and they're obviously cases of arrested development if they're in their 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s and even 60s and still need to scapegoat and mock kids in order to feel better about their own sorry pathetic selves! Private schools don't want kids to be kids, oh no, for a kid going through puberty with over stimulated hormones (which is normal) to behave like a kid going through puberty with over stimulated hormones in a private school where the teachers expect the air to be "so rarified" is something the twits on the faculty like to label "insane" or "crazy." We were all supposed to behave like we were middle aged executives, even in the sixth grade, at private school, and all the time too. You could not have a bad day once in awhile. Oh, no. If you had a bad day, maybe if you cried ONCE over some minor personal problem that, when you're eleven or twelve or whatever, seemed like it was the end of the world to you at the time, they wanted to hang a label of "sickness" on you, and "abnormality." If you weren't some rigid little automaton, sleep walking your way through life, forget it. If you didn't tell them what they wanted to hear all the time, forget it. If you came from a different background and had different values than the faculty, forget it. You could not even laugh or be lighthearted. Well, you couldn't have any kind of a heart at all in such a school, including a light heart. It was "no hearts allowed." I got in trouble for telling some jokes that I'd read in a book that somebody else wrote, I wasn't even the creator of them, I just repeated them, and I was referred to a psychiatrist by the stupid pigs who ran the school over it! My mother wasn't having a problem with me. My father wasn't having a problem with me. No one in my family was having a problem with me. My previous teachers and after I left the private school, my later teachers all thought I was not just a good kid but an exemplary one, and often held me up to the other kids as a good example, but incredibly, in THIS pathetic excuse for a school I had the nerve to tell a few jokes, and off I was bundled to be mind-raped by a shrink.
By the way, does anybody except for the kids who've also been placed in the same disgusting position realize what psychiatrists DO to children? Do these teachers know what they started? Do they care? Do they have hearts, minds, souls? Anything decent inside of them at all? I was subjected to a Freudian monster over telling my few little jokes. The Freudian monster was asking me questions like did I want to have sex WITH MY FATHER!!! The Freudian monster said, "You're not a virgin, are you?" Of course I was. I WAS ELEVEN YEARS OLD!!!!!!! But the Freudian monster started YELLING AT ME when I said that I was a virgin, that I hadn't had sex yet, he demanded to know why not and said I was "abnormal" over not having had it yet - IN THE SIXTH GRADE!!! I sat there scared out of my wits not knowing what was going to happen to me. I couldn't understand why I was being subjected to so much hate from him just because I hadn't done something that I wasn't old enough to be doing in the first place. To yell anything as abusive as that to a child is sexually threatening to the child, or don't the Pingry powers that be realize it yet? Further, Freudian theories were DISPROVED a long time ago, long before this was done to me in the name of "private school." Freudian theories are not even scientific. They are not accurate. In the over a hundred years since Freud came up with them NOBODY has been able to prove them true, NO DATA supports them, and that is because there is none. If anyone doesn't believe me, Google Freudian theory yourself and you'll see. Am I supposed to say thank you, private school teachers, oh, thank you so much, for subjecting me to this kind of unproven, untrue perversion and indignity over a few jokes that somebody else wrote? Do you feel good about yourselves now after you did this to me? Do you think you're somehow superior to me for having started all this?
Couldn't you have left me alone?
Do you know that when you send kids to shrinks for stupid, minor little reasons because YOU enjoy pointing fingers at other people, that YOU are STIGMATIZING us? Do you know how badly the experience hurts? Do you know that the memory of it's like a pain in my heart that never, ever goes away? EVER? Do you know how ashamed you make us feel? Or how terrified? Do you know that if I had a dollar for every nightmare I've ever had about all this abuse in the years since, I'd be about to start my own foundation?
Why do you become teachers at all if you have no desire to nurture kids but only a desire to point your condemnatory fingers at us? Have you ever thought of ENCOURAGING children and teenagers, or is that "too hard" for you? Have you ever thought of BUILDING KIDS UP rather than tearing them down? Is it so hard to COMFORT a child who's having an unpleasant moment, or is that anathema to you? Do you think every child is a decent little human being who's unfolding like a blossom, day by day, into an adult, the way teachers at other schools think, or do you truly believe that we're all psychotic little time bombs on the verge of exploding in your almighty faces? Why do you lot become teachers in the first place? Are you power mad?
Is THIS your idea of power, though - degrading little kids?
If you teachers don't like yourselves, ha, you certainly have a whole lot of good reasons not to, that's for sure. If this kind of thing is the best you can do in the way of exercising power over people, traumatizing other people's kids over nothing is hardly "power," it's just sadism.
Pingry's administration needs to wake up already and start doing a whole lot more for kids than this kind of "abnormal" labeling garbage. You're not helping kids on any level at all with what you're subjecting us to. Wake up! You're taking a part of us and killing it. Wake up! You also don't even care a fig that your actions have horrific ramifications for the kids or that we have to live with these memories forever. Wake up! You're a private school that pretends to appreciate an academically stimulating environment yet doesn't respect science at all because if you did you wouldn't be subjecting anyone to Freudians, least of all minor children. Wake up!
If you don't like what I'm saying, you half-witted toadies of a disproved theory, COME AND GET ME! I'd like nothing better than to be able to testify against all of you in a court of law. The charge? CHILD ABUSE!!!!!!!
#22 Consumer Comment
another awful Pingry experience - I'm glad this is getting out
AUTHOR: P Morhouse - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 20, 2009
POSTED: Friday, March 20, 2009Such is typical for a student body in high school (I could handle that), but these were the acts of the faculty which are inexcusable. Fortunately, my thoughtful parents changed my school after Richardson began suggesting I see a psychiatrist for my supposed bipolarity. The new school was a breath of fresh air - no problems, no shrinks for "bipolarity," went to a great ivy college and am very happy now with my career. I am comforted by this website to read that I was not the only one so miserable while enrolled in this institution.
#23 Consumer Comment
Pingry School Rap Song
AUTHOR: Lemonlimeice - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009This is one ugly story
But children don't despair
You can rise above this school
Where it just ain't fair
Children keep your power
Don't get in no bind
Don't you let no schoolhouse quack
Play games with your mind
Teachers get a grip on
Teachers do it right
Don't sit in the schoolhouse van
Toking doobies thru the night
Quackers start to listen
Let those kids be heard
Don't inform them how they feel
That just be absurd
Children know you're beautiful
Don't let your starlight flee
And never let some schoolhouse tyrant
Tell you who to be!
POWER TO THE STUDENTS OF PINGRY!
#24 Consumer Comment
Pingry School Rap Song
AUTHOR: Lemonlimeice - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009This is one ugly story
But children don't despair
You can rise above this school
Where it just ain't fair
Children keep your power
Don't get in no bind
Don't you let no schoolhouse quack
Play games with your mind
Teachers get a grip on
Teachers do it right
Don't sit in the schoolhouse van
Toking doobies thru the night
Quackers start to listen
Let those kids be heard
Don't inform them how they feel
That just be absurd
Children know you're beautiful
Don't let your starlight flee
And never let some schoolhouse tyrant
Tell you who to be!
POWER TO THE STUDENTS OF PINGRY!
#25 Consumer Comment
A STUDENT AT A PRIVATE SCHOOL FOR NEARLY A DECADE?
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 23, 2009
POSTED: Sunday, February 22, 2009Considering most students today are more into texting, video games and talking with their friends than writing things on the Rip Off Report, I remain somewhat skeptical.
As I said before, just the NAME of this place would discourage me from sending any children I had --IF I HAD ANY CHILDREN-- here!
If you all can get the place shut down because you have good evidence, then GO FOR IT.
I think the children deserve a GOOD EDUCATION!
#26 UPDATE Employee
Yeah, go ahead and sue Pingry on your imaginary grounds
AUTHOR: Pingry - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 22, 2009
POSTED: Sunday, February 22, 2009#27 Consumer Comment
Confirimed Sighting: Toshi Gibson's Business Really is Kaput
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 21, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, February 21, 2009Mr. Gibson drove a school bus, which was a blue-collar job, but he and his she-devil of a wife consistently demanded red-carpet treatment from the parents. They took that job, which involved a long commute, then seemed to care about nothing other than shortening the length of their commute. They tried to pressure certain parents into finding other modes of transportation for the kids they had been hired to drive to school, then got viciously attitudinal if the parents said no to them like the parents were THEIR employees and not the other way around. Who did those Gibsons think they were? Demigods? They even had the nerve to ask one kid to ride her bicycle several miles across town and through the dense traffic of the business section to meet the school bus rather than pick her up at her house despite the fact that her parents were paying for door-to-door bus service. This was to save the Gibsons about five minutes' time but could have proved lethal to the student. I think the parents had to threaten the school with a lawsuit in order to get them to pick their daughter up at home again and do their job. The more I think about it, the more I suspect Toshi and Carolyn Gibson were both clinically delusional. Clinically delusional in general to begin with with their here-we-are-serve-us attitude. Then they took their drugs besides. It's a wonder any of us survived them.
The only vehicle that would have been appropriate for transporting either one of them was not a school bus. It was a good old fashioned Black Maria!
If Ripoff Report is what brought Toshi down this time, then long live Ripoff Report!
#28 Consumer Comment
Toshi Gibson's Business Has Been Closed Down!
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 13, 2009
POSTED: Friday, February 13, 2009#29 Consumer Comment
A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009May I suggest that we all start writing to ALL of them? Since the pen is mightier than the sword, this is a "call to arms," if you will! We don't have to sit back and take this kind of thing in silence anymore! WRITE AND FIGHT! If Pingry won't do anything about their own INSANE staff, maybe they'll rethink their own idiocy if they might lose their accreditation over it!
#30 Consumer Comment
A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009May I suggest that we all start writing to ALL of them? Since the pen is mightier than the sword, this is a "call to arms," if you will! We don't have to sit back and take this kind of thing in silence anymore! WRITE AND FIGHT! If Pingry won't do anything about their own INSANE staff, maybe they'll rethink their own idiocy if they might lose their accreditation over it!
#31 Consumer Comment
A Call to Arms: Where to Write and Fight!
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009May I suggest that we all start writing to ALL of them? Since the pen is mightier than the sword, this is a "call to arms," if you will! We don't have to sit back and take this kind of thing in silence anymore! WRITE AND FIGHT! If Pingry won't do anything about their own INSANE staff, maybe they'll rethink their own idiocy if they might lose their accreditation over it!
#32 Consumer Comment
Pingry Creeps, You're Going on Report!
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009#33 Consumer Comment
JUST THE NAME OF THIS PLACE WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO AVOID IT!
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, January 17, 2009THAT IS, IF WHAT YOU ARE POSTING HERE IS TRUE!
EVEN A PUBLIC SCHOOL WOULD BE BETTER.
I WOULDN'T WANT MY KIDS --IF I HAD ANY KIDS -- ATTENDING A SCHOOL WITH THIS NAME, ANYWAY. WHAT DO THEY CALL THEIR MASCOT --THE PONGS, THE PING PONGS?
IF THINGS ARE AS BAD AS YOU ALL CLAIM, YOU NEED TO REPORT THESE PEOPLE TO YOUR STATE 'S AGENCY THAT ACCREDITS PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS IN GENERAL AND GET THEIR LICENSE TO OPERATE A SCHOOL PERMANENTLY REVOKED!
OR AT LEAST GET AN INVESTIGATION BY THIS STATE AGENCY GET STARTED AND NOT WASTE YOUR TIME POSTING ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THEM --- DO IT ASAP!
#34 Consumer Comment
The Jig is Up!
AUTHOR: SingOutLouise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 16, 2009
POSTED: Friday, January 16, 2009One of the fathers came up with quite a nickname for Mr. Gibson, his daughter came up with another whopper for Mrs. Gibson, and our only form of counter-intimidation was to talk about them using the initials of the nicknames - deliberately without revealing what they stood for. It was the only way we could get them back. We drove them nuts. They deserved it.
HOW DARE THEY have taken a job driving a school bus while doing drugs? Is there a statute of limitations on reckless endangerment?
It's suspicious that Pingry hired somebody like Gibson and also has a history of hiring pedophiles on the faculty and covering it all up from what people are saying here. I can just imagine what goes on in the faculty lounge. Hopefully now the jig is up! Pingry needs to be closed down if this is what they allow. Failing that, Vail-Deane went bankrupt, maybe Pingry will too.
#35 Consumer Comment
WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOUR MONEY FOR WHAT YOU COULD GET FOR FREE IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL?
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009ESPECIALLY THIS ONE IF THEY ARE DOING WHAT YOU CLAIM.
#36 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
AUTHOR: Longgonefromnj - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009But that's only the beginning of the lack of accountability and complete disregard of students that took place at that hell hole. I remember coming there from public school where we learned cursive writing a year later, so everyone in class knew it but I didn't. Did the teacher instruct me? No. She told me to learn it on my own. Which pretty much set the tone until I graduated years later. Keep up or get out, both personally and academically.
I recall complaining about a teacher in middle school for spending the entire class time telling personal stories and chatting with students instead of teaching. Nothing happened to him, but he bitched about it for weeks in class and I was a pariah. Thankfully it was close to the end of the school year.
There was a teacher in lower school who used to masturbate in front of male students during overnight camping trips. He was fired, but not reported, because he got a job at another school where he was finally arrested. And in the upper school it was well known FOR YEARS, since my older brother went there in the 70's, that the music director was a pedophile. But he was rich and well connected and worked for no salary.
An earlier commenter said something about stealing or crushing souls. I remember my senior year advisor, who by the way did absolutely nothing to help me locate an appropriate college, told me about a former teacher who had moved to Bali and opened a school for girls. He laughingly told me that this teacher's only requirement for entry into his school was that the girls be perfectly beautiful. HA HA HA . . . oh wait. . . that's TOTALLY OFFENSIVE!!!
To be honest, I have more things I could say. I know a girl who lived in the same house with two of the teachers from the upper school who were married and had children whom they neglected, and she also served as a waitress at some of the staff's parties and saw some things. And my sister, who attended a different school, was thinking of sending her kids there and was so disturbed by the interview she took them elsewhere.
I think of Pingry as my first experience in life of institutions that hold up a shining image of virtue which is meaningless, but useful as a shield to cover up the cesspool. Sadly not so differently from the rest of life.
#37 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
AUTHOR: Longgonefromnj - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009But that's only the beginning of the lack of accountability and complete disregard of students that took place at that hell hole. I remember coming there from public school where we learned cursive writing a year later, so everyone in class knew it but I didn't. Did the teacher instruct me? No. She told me to learn it on my own. Which pretty much set the tone until I graduated years later. Keep up or get out, both personally and academically.
I recall complaining about a teacher in middle school for spending the entire class time telling personal stories and chatting with students instead of teaching. Nothing happened to him, but he bitched about it for weeks in class and I was a pariah. Thankfully it was close to the end of the school year.
There was a teacher in lower school who used to masturbate in front of male students during overnight camping trips. He was fired, but not reported, because he got a job at another school where he was finally arrested. And in the upper school it was well known FOR YEARS, since my older brother went there in the 70's, that the music director was a pedophile. But he was rich and well connected and worked for no salary.
An earlier commenter said something about stealing or crushing souls. I remember my senior year advisor, who by the way did absolutely nothing to help me locate an appropriate college, told me about a former teacher who had moved to Bali and opened a school for girls. He laughingly told me that this teacher's only requirement for entry into his school was that the girls be perfectly beautiful. HA HA HA . . . oh wait. . . that's TOTALLY OFFENSIVE!!!
To be honest, I have more things I could say. I know a girl who lived in the same house with two of the teachers from the upper school who were married and had children whom they neglected, and she also served as a waitress at some of the staff's parties and saw some things. And my sister, who attended a different school, was thinking of sending her kids there and was so disturbed by the interview she took them elsewhere.
I think of Pingry as my first experience in life of institutions that hold up a shining image of virtue which is meaningless, but useful as a shield to cover up the cesspool. Sadly not so differently from the rest of life.
#38 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
AUTHOR: Longgonefromnj - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009But that's only the beginning of the lack of accountability and complete disregard of students that took place at that hell hole. I remember coming there from public school where we learned cursive writing a year later, so everyone in class knew it but I didn't. Did the teacher instruct me? No. She told me to learn it on my own. Which pretty much set the tone until I graduated years later. Keep up or get out, both personally and academically.
I recall complaining about a teacher in middle school for spending the entire class time telling personal stories and chatting with students instead of teaching. Nothing happened to him, but he bitched about it for weeks in class and I was a pariah. Thankfully it was close to the end of the school year.
There was a teacher in lower school who used to masturbate in front of male students during overnight camping trips. He was fired, but not reported, because he got a job at another school where he was finally arrested. And in the upper school it was well known FOR YEARS, since my older brother went there in the 70's, that the music director was a pedophile. But he was rich and well connected and worked for no salary.
An earlier commenter said something about stealing or crushing souls. I remember my senior year advisor, who by the way did absolutely nothing to help me locate an appropriate college, told me about a former teacher who had moved to Bali and opened a school for girls. He laughingly told me that this teacher's only requirement for entry into his school was that the girls be perfectly beautiful. HA HA HA . . . oh wait. . . that's TOTALLY OFFENSIVE!!!
To be honest, I have more things I could say. I know a girl who lived in the same house with two of the teachers from the upper school who were married and had children whom they neglected, and she also served as a waitress at some of the staff's parties and saw some things. And my sister, who attended a different school, was thinking of sending her kids there and was so disturbed by the interview she took them elsewhere.
I think of Pingry as my first experience in life of institutions that hold up a shining image of virtue which is meaningless, but useful as a shield to cover up the cesspool. Sadly not so differently from the rest of life.
#39 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Graduated over 20 years ago. Sad nothing has changed.
AUTHOR: Longgonefromnj - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, January 14, 2009But that's only the beginning of the lack of accountability and complete disregard of students that took place at that hell hole. I remember coming there from public school where we learned cursive writing a year later, so everyone in class knew it but I didn't. Did the teacher instruct me? No. She told me to learn it on my own. Which pretty much set the tone until I graduated years later. Keep up or get out, both personally and academically.
I recall complaining about a teacher in middle school for spending the entire class time telling personal stories and chatting with students instead of teaching. Nothing happened to him, but he bitched about it for weeks in class and I was a pariah. Thankfully it was close to the end of the school year.
There was a teacher in lower school who used to masturbate in front of male students during overnight camping trips. He was fired, but not reported, because he got a job at another school where he was finally arrested. And in the upper school it was well known FOR YEARS, since my older brother went there in the 70's, that the music director was a pedophile. But he was rich and well connected and worked for no salary.
An earlier commenter said something about stealing or crushing souls. I remember my senior year advisor, who by the way did absolutely nothing to help me locate an appropriate college, told me about a former teacher who had moved to Bali and opened a school for girls. He laughingly told me that this teacher's only requirement for entry into his school was that the girls be perfectly beautiful. HA HA HA . . . oh wait. . . that's TOTALLY OFFENSIVE!!!
To be honest, I have more things I could say. I know a girl who lived in the same house with two of the teachers from the upper school who were married and had children whom they neglected, and she also served as a waitress at some of the staff's parties and saw some things. And my sister, who attended a different school, was thinking of sending her kids there and was so disturbed by the interview she took them elsewhere.
I think of Pingry as my first experience in life of institutions that hold up a shining image of virtue which is meaningless, but useful as a shield to cover up the cesspool. Sadly not so differently from the rest of life.
#40 Consumer Comment
Get With the Program Yourself
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009
POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009#41 Consumer Comment
Get with the program.
AUTHOR: Logicist - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 29, 2008
POSTED: Monday, December 29, 2008Secondly, with regard to your claims about 'open classrooms.' That was because when Pingry first moved to the Martinsville campus, 25 years ago, construction was delayed so they could not complete the walls for the first year. During their first summer vacation however, all classrooms were completed. Get your facts straight and stop generalizing so much, its unhealthy.
#42 Consumer Comment
Expect Nothing from Private Schools Because You'll Get It
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 29, 2008
POSTED: Monday, December 29, 2008#43 Consumer Comment
Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
AUTHOR: Viva Max - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008Earlier today I went onto the website of the Pingry School and found that all three of the teachers that the children and parents are on here complaining about are still working right there at the school. Notice how silent they all are here on Ripoff Report. It would be nice to see some apologies come forth from Pingry's administration and from the teachers themselves, who have caused the students what sounds like untold trauma and grief, on here, wouldn't it? It certainly would. Yet I predict we'll never, EVER see that happen. Accountability from a private school that coasts on its probably unearned "good" reputation? It won't be forthcoming, and that's a certainty. Even though some well-needed apologies would help the kids these three ludicrously irresponsible adults hurt, you can be sure the kids won't get them, and since they won't get the apologies, they also will not get any chance of closure.
Ever.
The Pingry School's negligence has allowed two quacks and an addict unlimited and unhealthy access to children, but watch, all we'll get from Pingry will be silence.
So I just want to say this to the three Pingry "teachers" whose activities have been detailed here on Ripoff Report: how do you LIVE with yourselves? Don't people like you ever FACE yourselves? From what's on here, you're all dangerous: you're two psychobabblers and a pot head, for God's sake. If I was in charge of Pingry, or if any decent human being was in charge of Pingry, all three of you would be FIRED. Do you ever think that maybe, as adults, it's LONG OVERDUE that you might need to begin taking some responsibility for your actions?
It should be obvious by now, that I'm angry about this because it hits home. One of the former Pingry students who has written complaints about the destructiveness of one of the three Pingry "teachers" here on Ripoff Report is a member of my family.
Two psychobabblers and a pot head remain on the Pingry faculty. Why not show some decency, Pingry, and fire all three of them?
#44 Consumer Comment
Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
AUTHOR: Viva Max - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008Earlier today I went onto the website of the Pingry School and found that all three of the teachers that the children and parents are on here complaining about are still working right there at the school. Notice how silent they all are here on Ripoff Report. It would be nice to see some apologies come forth from Pingry's administration and from the teachers themselves, who have caused the students what sounds like untold trauma and grief, on here, wouldn't it? It certainly would. Yet I predict we'll never, EVER see that happen. Accountability from a private school that coasts on its probably unearned "good" reputation? It won't be forthcoming, and that's a certainty. Even though some well-needed apologies would help the kids these three ludicrously irresponsible adults hurt, you can be sure the kids won't get them, and since they won't get the apologies, they also will not get any chance of closure.
Ever.
The Pingry School's negligence has allowed two quacks and an addict unlimited and unhealthy access to children, but watch, all we'll get from Pingry will be silence.
So I just want to say this to the three Pingry "teachers" whose activities have been detailed here on Ripoff Report: how do you LIVE with yourselves? Don't people like you ever FACE yourselves? From what's on here, you're all dangerous: you're two psychobabblers and a pot head, for God's sake. If I was in charge of Pingry, or if any decent human being was in charge of Pingry, all three of you would be FIRED. Do you ever think that maybe, as adults, it's LONG OVERDUE that you might need to begin taking some responsibility for your actions?
It should be obvious by now, that I'm angry about this because it hits home. One of the former Pingry students who has written complaints about the destructiveness of one of the three Pingry "teachers" here on Ripoff Report is a member of my family.
Two psychobabblers and a pot head remain on the Pingry faculty. Why not show some decency, Pingry, and fire all three of them?
#45 Consumer Comment
Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
AUTHOR: Viva Max - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008Earlier today I went onto the website of the Pingry School and found that all three of the teachers that the children and parents are on here complaining about are still working right there at the school. Notice how silent they all are here on Ripoff Report. It would be nice to see some apologies come forth from Pingry's administration and from the teachers themselves, who have caused the students what sounds like untold trauma and grief, on here, wouldn't it? It certainly would. Yet I predict we'll never, EVER see that happen. Accountability from a private school that coasts on its probably unearned "good" reputation? It won't be forthcoming, and that's a certainty. Even though some well-needed apologies would help the kids these three ludicrously irresponsible adults hurt, you can be sure the kids won't get them, and since they won't get the apologies, they also will not get any chance of closure.
Ever.
The Pingry School's negligence has allowed two quacks and an addict unlimited and unhealthy access to children, but watch, all we'll get from Pingry will be silence.
So I just want to say this to the three Pingry "teachers" whose activities have been detailed here on Ripoff Report: how do you LIVE with yourselves? Don't people like you ever FACE yourselves? From what's on here, you're all dangerous: you're two psychobabblers and a pot head, for God's sake. If I was in charge of Pingry, or if any decent human being was in charge of Pingry, all three of you would be FIRED. Do you ever think that maybe, as adults, it's LONG OVERDUE that you might need to begin taking some responsibility for your actions?
It should be obvious by now, that I'm angry about this because it hits home. One of the former Pingry students who has written complaints about the destructiveness of one of the three Pingry "teachers" here on Ripoff Report is a member of my family.
Two psychobabblers and a pot head remain on the Pingry faculty. Why not show some decency, Pingry, and fire all three of them?
#46 Consumer Comment
Zero Accountability at The Pingry School
AUTHOR: Viva Max - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, December 20, 2008Earlier today I went onto the website of the Pingry School and found that all three of the teachers that the children and parents are on here complaining about are still working right there at the school. Notice how silent they all are here on Ripoff Report. It would be nice to see some apologies come forth from Pingry's administration and from the teachers themselves, who have caused the students what sounds like untold trauma and grief, on here, wouldn't it? It certainly would. Yet I predict we'll never, EVER see that happen. Accountability from a private school that coasts on its probably unearned "good" reputation? It won't be forthcoming, and that's a certainty. Even though some well-needed apologies would help the kids these three ludicrously irresponsible adults hurt, you can be sure the kids won't get them, and since they won't get the apologies, they also will not get any chance of closure.
Ever.
The Pingry School's negligence has allowed two quacks and an addict unlimited and unhealthy access to children, but watch, all we'll get from Pingry will be silence.
So I just want to say this to the three Pingry "teachers" whose activities have been detailed here on Ripoff Report: how do you LIVE with yourselves? Don't people like you ever FACE yourselves? From what's on here, you're all dangerous: you're two psychobabblers and a pot head, for God's sake. If I was in charge of Pingry, or if any decent human being was in charge of Pingry, all three of you would be FIRED. Do you ever think that maybe, as adults, it's LONG OVERDUE that you might need to begin taking some responsibility for your actions?
It should be obvious by now, that I'm angry about this because it hits home. One of the former Pingry students who has written complaints about the destructiveness of one of the three Pingry "teachers" here on Ripoff Report is a member of my family.
Two psychobabblers and a pot head remain on the Pingry faculty. Why not show some decency, Pingry, and fire all three of them?
#47 Consumer Suggestion
private schools have good points and bad ones as well
AUTHOR: Cat - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 19, 2008
POSTED: Friday, December 19, 2008I tutored many children over the years and have spoken to many parents who thought that just because their child was in private school their child would have the "best teachers" and somehow would be much more advanced than children in public school. One of the those parents could not believe how advanced my child was and yet she was in a "lowly public school".
Both private and public schools have their good points and bad ones as well. However, it is important to go ahead of time and check out the schools, check out the classrooms, find out their thoughts on volunteering and if they find parent involvement a plus. I would run from any school who does not find this a important factor.
Do not let the thought of a private school name go to your head. I've seen parents who see private school as some type of necessity. The majority of public schools have plenty of qualified teachers who care deeply about children and their education. There will always be the exception, but just because a school is tagged as "private" does not mean the teachers are qualified to actually teach your child . It is always important to be actively involved in your childs education. As a parent YOU need to be actively involved.
#48 Consumer Comment
It's a FALLACY that Private School Tuition Pays for Access to the "Best Teachers Available"
AUTHOR: Viva Max - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 19, 2008
POSTED: Friday, December 19, 2008Public schools hire qualified teachers. Private schools hire DILETTANTES! The Ripoff Reports on here certainly spell this out.
#49 Consumer Comment
Additional Carolyn & Toshi Gibson Information
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 10, 2008
POSTED: Monday, November 10, 2008One is that when the faculty member Leboff leaked the info to the parents about the Gibson's drug abuse she said that the reason they were doing their drugs at night in the same school bus in which they drove the Vail-Deane students in the mornings was so that their landlord in Plainfield, NJ wouldn't smell the pot and call the cops. Leboff also said Carolyn Dow Gibson came from a very nice family, which I find almost impossible to believe, that her parents were "appalled" at her lifestyle, living at first unmarried with the bus driver in a hovel in Plainfield furnished with orange crates, doing drugs all the time, and that her parents had wanted to "do something" about her. But her parents DID NOT do anything about her. They did not do one single thing to stop their sick, irresponsible daughter.
Instead, children like mine had to suffer through being the recipients of her drug-induced paranoia and abuviseness. My daughter reports that Gibson was consistently paranoid and thought kids were "out to get her," would even spy on them, which is a drug abuse symptom, and that it was terrifying to watch this play out. Keep in mind that as a parent I was paying Vail-Deane for the "honor" of sending my kid into this bad situation.
Carolyn and Toshi Gibson, if you are reading this, you are TOTALLY REPREHENSIBLE, and I am delighted to have the Internet provide me with a forum for saying so to the world. You're like two cockroaches who do your dirty work in the dark, when nobody is able to see, but thanks to the Internet, the rest of us can shed and shine the light on your sick activities and illuminate them in all their sordid glory for other parents of kids you come in contact with.
The kids really should be paid reparations for dealing with you.
#50 Consumer Comment
Let's Sue
AUTHOR: Malibu Cliffs - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 08, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, November 08, 2008When the going gets tough, don't the tough file lawsuits? That's what people should do where some of these fruit loop teachers are concerned. Sue them! Sue them! Sue them! Make them pay the kids some reparations already!
#51 Consumer Comment
Keep on Posting, Pingry People!
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, November 08, 2008
POSTED: Saturday, November 08, 2008Oh, by the way, Gibson, darling, if you don't like it that I take such pride and pleasure in posting on Ripoff Report about you, MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE YOU WERE ABUSIVE TO AND ENDANGERED THE LIFE OF MY DAUGHTER! This isn't too easy a thing for a mom to forget.
Have a nice day, and I do hope you get into a psychiatric treatment facility soon,
Miami Mama
#52 Consumer Comment
Investigate this Pingry School Without Any Further Delay!
AUTHOR: Denali - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 07, 2008
POSTED: Friday, November 07, 2008So let's ask a few questions that might connect some dots here. What if the adults at this barbaric school for rich kids are deliberately trying to DRIVE the rich kids to substance abuse? And if they are trying to drive the kids to substance abuse, the next natural question is who is PROFITING from it? They already have one adult who's reportedly an addict on the staff, why not more than one? if kids there are on drugs they are probably buying them from adults. Well the first question somebody ought to be asking is WHICH adults? Has anyone else out there ever heard of school counselors terrorizing shy kids anywhere else in the world? Do the math and start adding this up.
Richardson, Gibson and Leonetti: Someone should call the cops on you. They should call the District Attorney. They should call the Drug Enforcement Agency. They should call the IRS, last but definitely not least, and have you three audited to see what kind of income you've got and where exactly you are getting it. Your principal and your Pingry supervisors should also be placed under an investigation. They are clearly not doing their jobs if so many people are speaking out here to say you are not doing yours which it seems to be falling on deaf ears. That's another do the math thing, why is that? These are CHILDREN whose lives you're adversely impacting here! All this needs to get looked at. It sounds like it's obvious something is very, VERY WRONG over there at the Pingry School for any of this to be taking place and the law should start taking a deeper look at all of you.
#53 Consumer Comment
Pingry School should be Investigated Without any Further Delay
AUTHOR: Denali - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 07, 2008
POSTED: Friday, November 07, 2008So let's ask a few questions that might connect some dots here. What if the adults at this barbaric school for rich kids are deliberately trying to DRIVE the rich kids to substance abuse? And if they are trying to drive the kids to substance abuse, the next natural question is who is PROFITING from it? They already have one adult who's reportedly an addict on the staff, why not more than one? if kids there are on drugs they are probably buying them from adults. Well the first question somebody ought to be asking is WHICH adults? Has anyone else out there ever heard of school counselors terrorizing shy kids anywhere else in the world? Do the math and start adding this up.
Richardson, Gibson and Leonetti: Someone should call the cops on you. They should call the District Attorney. They should call the Drug Enforcement Agency. They should call the IRS, last but definitely not least, and have you three audited to see what kind of income you've got and where exactly you are getting it. Your principal and your Pingry supervisors should also be placed under an investigation. They are clearly not doing their jobs if so many people are speaking out here to say you are not doing yours which it seems to be falling on deaf ears. That's another do the math thing, why is that? These are CHILDREN whose lives you're adversely impacting here! All this needs to get looked at. It sounds like it's obvious something is very, VERY WRONG over there at the Pingry School for any of this to be taking place and the law should start taking a deeper look at all of you.
#54 Consumer Comment
Wow, it's still the same, even 20 years later
AUTHOR: Lauren - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 04, 2008
POSTED: Tuesday, November 04, 2008I have to say only a part of me is shocked that Mr. Rich is still at Pingry and still being allowed to treat children the way he "treated" me. They don't want to build up a person's self-esteem at that school, they want to crush it. If you're not a drug addict with lots of friends, you're *abnormal*. *That's* Pingry, in a nutshell. I'm just so very sad that 20 years later, nothing has changed.
If you are thinking of sending your child there, PLEASE don't. Please send your child to any other school on the planet. Not only will they be better off, they'll probably get a better education too.
#55 Consumer Suggestion
This School Sounds Creepy
AUTHOR: Elvislives45 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 09, 2008
POSTED: Thursday, October 09, 2008Sounds to me like one sick place.
#56 Consumer Comment
Carolyn and Toshi Gibson: Every Parent's Worst Nightmare Come True
AUTHOR: Miami Mama - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 12, 2008
POSTED: Monday, May 12, 2008Carolyn Gibson and her husband Toshi were every parents' worst nightmare come true. They drove my daughter's school van. They were disrespectful to me as a parent and hideous to my daughter, but their attitude alone was not their only problem: Mrs. Doris Leboff, a teacher at Vail-Deane, told me that both Carolyn and Toshi Gibson were habitual drug abusers. They would even sit in the school van every night, close all the windows, and smoke their pot in there, with the windows all shut, the better to 'concentrate' the pot, be surrounded by the smoke, and get higher from it. They invited another teacher, who flatly refused, to do the same, and then the story made its way around the Vail-Deane Faculty Lounge, and finally to some of the parents.
Doris Leboff was hesitant in telling this to anyone until her daughter Barbara, who went to the school for free because she was a faculty member's child, had graduated. To protect her daughter Barbara, Doris Leboff allowed other people's children, including mine, to be driven around on that school bus by those two fouled-up hippies and to risk being killed on a daily basis by their irresponsibility as they drove under the influence of illegal substances.
This story was later confirmed by not one, not two, but three other former Vail-Deane faculty members. Everyone knew what those two Gibsons were about but nobody did a single thing about stopping them.
They were stopped by the cops for speeding with the van full of children a few times. The school was called by the police about it. The Headmaster did absolutely nothing.
I don't know just what was going on there but there was no accountability whatsoever from the Headmaster, the Board of Trustees, or from the faculty. I believe the Gibsons should have been placed under arrest for reckless endangerment as well as for buying, using, possessing and driving under the influence of illegal drugs. It's to protect the rest of us that such street drugs are illegal in the first place, but nothing was done to protect the children on that van against this disgusting duo, Carolyn and Toshi Gibson.
Obviously there's no accountability present at the Pingry School either or the likes of the Gibson woman would not be permitted to remain on their staff. Don't they screen these people at all, before letting them work at Pingry? Once an addict, always an addict. Then again Vail-Deane was Pingry's sister school, so why am I surprised at Pingry's clear lack of ethics in terms of who they let on their staff? If they're so exemplary at Pingry, then what is that wretched excuse for a woman doing working there?
#57 Consumer Comment
Pingry teachers are exemplary; Dr. Richardson is a great example
AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 25, 2008
POSTED: Friday, April 25, 2008I obviously don't know who your daughter is and can't speak to the specifics of the situation. That said, however, the arguments presented here just don't hold up. The original report asserts that it is "ridiculous" to even ask whether the essay was secretly about the author. On the contrary, I'd suggest it would be irresponsible not to. The issue is how the question was asked. The initial report gives no indication of how long the (supposed) treatment went on. Having myself been in the child's position - behavior that made the psych folks and administration ask questions - my experience was very different. I went to a few sessions with Dr. Richardson, who was respectful and understanding, and after they concluded there was no cause for concern we were done. The whole process took maybe two months. The situation in the initial report says to me that either parent or child didn't do well with the very idea of talking to a psych professional (a not-uncommon reaction, particularly in a parent population very concerned with image).
I've had bad teachers at Pingry, too, and no shortage of conflict with the administration; no institution is without its flaws. These are the exception, though, and not the rule. Far and away the most significant thing which differentiated it from neighboring (public and private) schools was the quality - the intelligence, devotion, and compassion - of its teachers. It is not uncommon to find teachers talking to students until 7pm most nights. I had a physics teacher essentially teach all the year's material twice because myself and one other student in the class understood it differently from the others. Several teachers, unsolicited, made my case for me against the administration when some questionable decisions were made regarding my tenure there.
The idea that Dr. Richardson - most Pingry teachers, but particularly Dr. Richardson - would seek to ostracize children for not fitting some social norm is simply ignorant of the reality in the school. Indeed, those students who fall outside the (relatively conservative, certainly affluent) social norms the majority of the student body imposes on the broader body largely gravitate around Dr. Richardson and Pat Lionetti (portions of the administration don't always like this). Never once have I heard of either of them questioning anyone over getting good grades or being shy. Those claims are simply not believable.
As I said, I can't directly comment on Mrs. Gibson, but the paragraph directed at her is... interesting. The original report asserts that she might be the biggest drug user on the planet. Really? That's a reasoned criticism of the school? Even setting aside the question of verifiability of the claims, there's simply nothing there that actually has anything to say about her performance as a teacher or administrator (the role she's currently in).
The comments on the "open classrooms" are interesting, too. Since my graduation (just over a decade ago), the Martinsville campus (grades 7-12, the campus at which Dr. Richardson works) has gone through two major rounds of expansion, essentially doubling the square footage of the facility. Describing the Pingry administration as "too cheap" for facilities expansion is simply laughable. It's unfortunate that the young girl in question didn't deal well with the (probably accurate) inconvenience of the transitional period, but again this does not indicate any type of general trend.
The cost for the school is certainly high, yes, and I can't really say whether it's worth it in a financial sense. For myself, I'm certainly grateful that my parents were willing to sacrifice enough to send me there and have no doubt that the education i received there has prepared me for the larger world far better than most of my peers have been at other schools, but there are other ways to get there as well. The tuition at Pingry pays for access to the best teachers available in the region; parents can decide for themselves whether that's worth the cash.

