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Complaint Review: The Robert McAngus Group of Companies

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  • Submitted: Fri, January 11, 2013
  • Updated: Fri, January 11, 2013

  • Reported By: Ronald Walker — Sittingbourne Other United Kingdom
The Robert McAngus Group of Companies
Internet United States of America

The Robert McAngus Group of Companies RMG Capital Investment SCAM ALERT - EXTORTING FEES , Internet

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: SO MANY YEARS AGO

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Robert McAngus - SCAM ALERT -

His obtaining monies by deception and causing financial loss is an example of how easy it is to extort fees from unsuspecting individuals; McAngus tries to extort in the first instance $20,000 followed by a further $50,000; for a financial service that he is unable to provide; a due diligence of the man will reveal to the enquirer that he is a convicted fraudster and would therefore never be able to structure a financial completion of what he has promised in return for the $70,000 fees.  

He regularly publishes a series of elaborate web pages to the Internet; You Tube; Facebook; using numerous different title headings; in which every claim and detail of his qualifications is false.

The Robert McAngus Group is just one of the many current headings for his fraudulent claims; his other web page headings include:-

RMG Capital
RMG Capital Investment
RMG Shipping
RMG Motorsport
RMG Gold and Precious Metals
RMG Global Insurance
RMG Capital Corporation
RMG Shipping
RMG Precious Metal Division
RMG Oil Corporation
RMG Aviation Corporation
The Robert McAngus Group Inc
RMG
EMI
European Management Inc
Euroman
Airstream Petroleum Group   -   along with a host of other web page titles of which there are far too many to list. [continued below]....
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Robert McAngus claimed to have - $500 Million Dollar liquid assets - yet he operates from a back street of Marbella, Spain;

he has no business premise; no employees ; uses a mail box for incoming documents ; there are no Registered Companies ; no Company Solicitor ; no Company Accountant ; no Company records ; no Company address ; claims to be a Global Corporation and a dealer in Bullion !

He identifies his Bullion Director as Lord Howes ... alias of Ivor Patrick Howes ... and claims to be FSA Registered in United Kingdom ... have checked ... false !

He identifies his business colleague ... John David Beagley ... as owner of SIS LAW LIMITED ... there is no such company registered at Companies House in United Kingdom ... false !

John Beagley is identified as Consultant Solicitor and Regional Manager !

Claims to be a Global Corporation with offices in Spain; Colombia; USA; United Kingdom; Russia; Switzerland; Europe; North America; South America; Africe; India; China; Australia ....... etc., ....... ........ etc., ........ etc

His vast ' Global Corporation ' operates solely from his two mobile phones ... he answers every enquiry ... both on mobile and via e-mail ............

Robert McAngus
Managing Director CEO at RMG Capital Corporation
Marbella Area, Spain 
Financial Services

As stated on Linkedin Profile

Not shown on his Linkedin Profile : Extract from media and Federal Court records : AP News Archive Sept. 12, 1991, 10:35 AM ET DETROIT (AP)_FBI and US Custom Service agents arrested a husband and wife and seized about 40,000 counterfeit Polo-Ralph Lauren shirts worth more than $2 Million Dollars, officials said.

Robert McAngus and his wife were convicted ; Robert McAngus was sentenced to a prison sentence of 2 yrs 3 mths ; in respect of wire fraud and trafficking.

Walter Mitty character ; in that he believes that his daydreams are true ; thereafter publishing them as fact to the internet using numerous web pages in which he purports that his daydreams are actually true !

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/11/2013 04:16 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/The-Robert-McAngus-Group-of-Companies/internet/The-Robert-McAngus-Group-of-Companies-RMG-Capital-Investment-SCAM-ALERT-EXTORTING-FEES-995349. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

SO MANY YEARS AGO

AUTHOR: Robert McAngus - ()

IN ALL THE YEARS WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS THIS IS THE ONLY COMPLAINT YOU WILL FIND, ABOUT EITHER ME OR RMG, WE HAVE NEVER TRIED TO HIDE ANYTHING ALL IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEB SITE, WE HAVE NEVER SCAMMED ANYONE, IT IS UP TO THE READER TO EITHER GO FORWARD OR TO DECIDE NOT TO DEAL WITH US.

 In response to Ronald Walkers unsubstantiated claim that The Robert McAngus Group and myself are “Scammers” I would like to set the record straight and bring clarity to the allegations made by Mr. Ronald Walker and then the reader can decide what he or she may.  May I humbly request, that the reader read all the text and recognize that I the writer do not have all the answers or in fact any idea what prompted Mr. Walker to write his posting, at first I was angry, then confused, and now as I sit trying to explain to people what happened 30 years ago I am sad, but my response will contain the facts as they are, not elaborated upon or embellished in any manner.

 I honestly find great difficulty in understanding what Mr. Walkers motives behind this attack on us are, envy, bitterness, immediately spring to mind, but why did Mr. Walker elect to use this forum to announce his allegations against us, when we have until this moment been friends and in regular contact with each other via phone or email for almost 30 years, would not a telephone call have been better to discuss his reasoning behind this attack and give me the opportunity to talk the matters through with him rather than the unannounced attack on me, my company and our combined credibility?

 30 years of friendship is a long time and to just destroy it for a whim or in a mad moment leaves both the reader and I very confused as to why, I can give you no rational answer to the questions that must me going through your mind, because exactly the same ones are going through mine!

 I meet Ronald Walker in or about 1986 via telephone, I was speaking to a contact who in turn wanted me to speak to an apprentice of his, Mr. Ronald Walker, he was in an office in London, UK, I was in my office in San Francisco California, and we discussed the trading of various products. Over the course of the next few months we quickly became good business friends, and spoke, or wrote to each other weekly, (No internet in those days) this business friendship became a close, personal friendship as the years passed. Mr. Walker informed me that he was a retired policeman who had left the Police Force in Kent after dissatisfaction with the way the force was operated, and he wanted to learn about international trading. (at the bottom of this rebuttal I explain why he actually left the Kent Constabulary, again the reader may think what she or he may about the circumstances of his early retirement) At that time 1986, Mr. Walker was living in Maidstone Kent, and recently 2011 -2012 had to move to a smaller home in Sittingbourne Kent due to the housing market collapse in the UK in order to get a manageable mortgage.

 In 1990 I was involved with  P. T. Griffiths and Partners Limited a UK registered company, now dissolved with a Company Number 00559630 and under this name and company number purchased from a Florida company a consignment of Ralph Lauren Polo shirts from a manufacture in the same plant as Ralph Lauren had his shirts manufactured in Thailand, and P. T. Griffiths and Partners Limited sold these shirts to a USA company located in Detroit Michigan, for onward sale to Russia. The shirts were first delivered to LAX California where we inspected them along with the client in the FREE ZONE, technically not in the USA; after inspecting the product, the client accepted the quality and quantity, and then arranged for said Polo shirts to be moved to Michigan to a bonded warehouse – a FREE ZONE again for later onward shipment to Russia, as per our agreement. We had sold the product and payment was to be made at the buyers office in Detroit Michigan, therefore once the shipping had been set we travelled to Detroit to collect our $1,400,000 and faxed the buyer with our travel arrangements, there was no internet in those days. While we were traveling the buyer cancelled his sale to Russia and sold the entire product to another buyer in Detroit, thus contravening the copywrite laws in the USA, at that time there was no such law in Russia. The FBI had been monitoring the buyer for some time and when we arrived in Detroit we were arrested and charged with Copywrite infringement and Wire Fraud, even though we had not intended to sell said Polo shirts in the USA. I was found guilty of Wire Fraud and sentenced to 27 months in Federal Prison, even though I had not intended for the shirts to be sold in the USA. (This can be found on www.mcangus-group.com/downloads.html in the PDF named “Due Diligence and the ramification thereof; perhaps Mr. Walker should have read our e-Brochures prior to making all of this fuss as we clearly tell people about what happened ) My wife and I were the only people to be arrested, no Directors of P. T. Griffith ever faced charges, the company in Florida was never indicted and the company in Detroit never faced charges. Mr. Walker was well aware of my arrest and subsequent confinement, and termed it “Bull Shit” at the time and even recently within the past two years called the charges spurious.

 On my release I re-opened my business of international aircraft lease trading in Arizona with European Management Inc. and EMI Capital Group, both of these companies became the backbone of The Robert McAngus Group very much along the lines the reader sees on our web site and e-Brochures today, but this time with many more security checks and balances in place in the company and since those far off days of 1990 (23 years) I have maintained an excellent reputation for honesty, in fact over 1000 fellow traders on LinkedIn have un-solicitedly , endorsed me for various business skills and practices carried out by my company The Robert  McAngus Group, which is the company Mr. Walker accuses today, 10,000 plus contacts, have not asked me to change our company policies, 1000 endorse them and Mr. Walker, wants to Black List us because an email containing a Christmas Card and a once a year e-Brochure made him angry considering it quote “like a red flag at a bull”.

 I have not had face to face contact with Mr. Walker since approximately the year 2000, this was when he and his wife travelled to Arizona to stay with me as my guest at my home, during his visit I entertained them took them to see the Grand Canyon, Meteor Crater, Las Vegas etc, etc, etc. in fact Mr. Walker makes reference to this visit when I contacted him on the 13th January 2001 in an attempt to understand what was going on, he replied in an email (which is on file and available to the reader) the following, “Firstly, let me make it clear that this has nothing to do with my feelings towards Robert.  Those feelings are embedded; love you to bits; and I would have been more than happy to have gotten even closer to you by expanding on the feelings that I shared with you in the Arizona desert” this refers to Mr. Walker his wife and I stopping on the way back from Las Vegas at 3.00am to look at the stars in the clear desert skies, but it does concern me as it revels to me Mr. Walkers feminine side and it certainly adds more confusion to the already confused situation and both the reader and I will note that this email was written to me on the 13th of January this year, professing love while stabbing someone in the back sounds very Freudian at the best and downright William Shakespeare, “Et tu Brute”(a Latin phrase often used to represent the last words of Roman dictator Julius Caesar to his closest friend Marcus Brutus at the moment of his assassination. The quotation is widely used in Western culture to signify the utmost betrayal.) but somehow or other it feels right as I set out this missive for the interested reader.

 In 1991 when I was visiting London I introduced Mr. Walker to an associate who was looking for someone to assist him run his company, which installed glass windows in the Canary Wharf Towers, after several years the company closed due to bad management.  Over the years since we first met, Mr. Walker received many offers of employment from us, we even offered to pay full relocation expenses, but due to the caveats placed by Mr. Walker, he would only join us if we paid him upfront 1 years’ salary prior to him leaving the UK for the USA,  Nothing ever happened. Mr. Walker did reciprocate by making me Robert McAngus a Director on one of his companies since dissolved.  Mr. Walker continued to stay in the UK working as a fork lift truck driver for a paper mill, and several other small nondescript jobs.

 In the ensuing years since we first met Mr. Walker presented me with a multitude of project ideas, unfortunately, they were either already in production with another company or so “Out There!” that we could not assist him and nor could any of our lenders. In 2012 Mr. Walker contacted me with an idea for transportation that he had been considering which was the building of a subterranean canal system running north and south in the United Kingdom carrying goods in an attempt to replace the road haulage system. We reviewed his business plan and declined the project on many grounds, first, he had no money in the project, it was a startup and we do not have a lender who does. Secondly, in my opinion it was a “Fools Endeavor” and not worth wasting time upon, the cost of building and development alone was prohibitive and I explained this to Mr. Walker, unfortunately, his attitude was one of “You have no idea what you’re talking about!” from that moment things between Walker and I have suffered from a serious decline, and he has taken to sending repeated emails, (which we have if the reader requests) demanding that I take down our company web sites as we are fooling the prospective client into thinking that we are much larger than we are and that we McAngus and RMG are taking monies by false pretense. We requested that Mr. Walker provide a list of people that we had taken monies from, name of project, etc. as on this time he has not been able to provide one name to us.

 Mr. Ronald Walkers Past History

 This brings us to Mr. Walkers past history, I mentioned at the beginning that Mr. Walker was a retired Police Constable from Kent Constabulary in England, here is the story behind his early retirement.   

 In 1986 as a Kent constable, Ron Walker, went to Scotland Yard with a detailed complaint that 60 of his colleagues had been fabricating phony detections and arrests to improve their crime figures. He said they offered favors, including a license to commit crime, to offenders in prison who agreed to "write off" unsolved offences and to offenders in police stations who agreed to have extra offences added to their list of crimes to be "taken into consideration" (TIC) by the court. In both cases, offenders were guaranteed that their admissions would not incur any extra penalty.

 Mr. Walker detailed how one offender in prison admitted committing 87 offences - 34 of them when he was in prison or under close supervision in a probation hostel. He found another offender whose list of TICs had been padded out with a string of fictitious thefts of bicycle lamps. Mr. Walker's efforts came to nothing. Instead of investigating his allegations against 60 officers, the director of public prosecutions instructed Scotland Yard to investigate only the handful for which Mr. Walker had provided documentary proof. In fact only one detective out of the 60 police officers that Mr. Walker accused and that Mr. Walker alleged committed a crime  were found guilty as Mr. Walker had no evidence that a crime had been committed. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2003/jul/11/ukcrime.prisonsandprobation1

 When I emailed Mr. Walker after he had posted his “Robert McAngus is a scammer” post and asked him what was he doing, below is the response, again the reader can contact me directly robert@mcangus-group.com and I will send a copy of the email and again the reader can make of this what they may. The art work in question was a Christmas Card and a Brochure entitled “Random Thoughts” which I have sent out for the past 6 years, it’s a look at the year and what has happened and random thoughts, it has been received and commented upon around the world.

 From Ronald Walker to Robert McAngus

 Robert,

 Living in Spain, I would have expected you to know that if you wave a red flag at a bull he will charge at you.  You sent me your art work for The McAngus Group; it was such a flag.  How did you expect me to react ?   Did you really think that I would pat you on the head and tell you that you were a very clever boy ?   You know my background; you know that I will fight against something that is bad ?  It was a very bad mistake for you to have made.

 Be clear, I am not the idiot that you portray.  Give me some credit in that I was able to close down what it took you all those years to create, within just a few minutes.  You know what the scam is so I will not dwell on that side of it.

 What still puzzles me is why you are still working twelve hours a day; seven days a week; processing all of these projects.   Why not call it a day and enjoy your retirement; spend some of the monies that you have from received in commissions.   Retire and enjoy some quality time with Sandra and the kids ... we only have a few more years ...

 Kind regards,

Ron

 End of email From Ronald Walker to Robert McAngus

 It would seem to me, that Mr. Walker is either having a nervous breakdown, missing being a policeman, not as clever as he thinks he is, or is quite ready to throw away a 30 year friendship for promoting his first book (It would appear that Mr. Walker who is currently promoting a Psychological Detective Story he wrote and has become entwined with his cast and plot and the Christmas card pushed him over the edge) as we are still working on behalf of clients, the web sites are still up, and Mr. Walker has not, just as he couldn’t do with the Kent Police provide when he reported them, any information regarding “Scams” or “Fraud” perpetrated by either myself or the Robert McAngus Group.  Why, hasn’t he been able to provide this information, simple answer, we haven’t scammed anyone or any company. It would seem that Mr. Walker has a history of biting the hand that either feeds or befriends him. There are many times Mr. Walker talked to me about reporting this person or that company, I always asked why, what or who does it benefit if you to do that? What evidence do you have that they actually have done that? What is your motives?

 We do not “Scam” anyone, We do not Defraud anyone, We do not coerce prospective clients to retain our services, we do not use “Bully” tactics to get clients and what happened 25 plus years ago should not prohibit anyone from doing business, I made a mistake, I should have done more due diligence on the client in Detroit Michigan, but I failed to do so and suffered the consequences and ramifications of those actions, I made a mistake and paid for it, but I do not think that anyone has the right to slander anyone’s name 23 years after the crime was committed!  

 What we do if we cannot work with someone, is to call that person and explain our position, then if they do not agree we cut the tie between us and have no further contact with that individual or company, quite simple, and we all go our own way, if it’s a Nigerian 419 scam or a variation thereof we report it or send it to the trash just as the reader does……………By the way Bulls are attracted to movement not color, they are in fact color blind and see only in shades of grey, so that one more fact that Mr. Walker got wrong…………Thank you reader for taking the time to go through my Rebuttal, we will leave it up to you to adjudicate

 Respectfully

Robert McAngus

Managing Director – CEO

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