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  • Submitted: Mon, November 04, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, July 02, 2014

  • Reported By: Katie MacIntire — Allendale Michigan
The Rock Church
3728 Rivertown Pkwy Grandville, Michigan USA

The Rock Church ~ Pastor Gary Petersen Had a sexual relationship with a male staff member Grandville Michigan

*General Comment: Show the proof

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Investigate

*General Comment: Really?!?

*Consumer Comment: Coffee Bar

*Consumer Comment: Wow, open your eyes "followers"

*Consumer Comment: Too many lies

*General Comment: Some need to be broken in order to humble themselves

*General Comment: And you claim to be Christians

*General Comment: Wellspring Church - House of Lies

*General Comment: Really? Really?

*General Comment: Pure Jesus or Pure Demonic Cult you decide.

*General Comment: NOT EVERYONE LIES

*General Comment: Terrible Actions by a Terrible Man

*UPDATE Employee ..inside information: Motives

*General Comment: Your Just Plain Wrong!

*General Comment: GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

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"The Rock Church" is a newly formed church and currently meeting at Celebration Cinemas Rivertown Mall in Grandville, MI. Its senior pastor is Gary Petersen whom recently came from Wellspring Church in Hudsonville, MI. He was asked to resign by the board for a sexual affair that he had with a male intern staff member. This coupled with a pastoral personality cult (narcissism) and misappropriation of funds sent him packing. Pastor Gary (PG) has a known history of homosexuality and it dates back to a prior church in Florida. Each time he was asked to leave and each time he started a new church on his own. This time he took all of his staff members to start his own church. They follow him very closely and have covered up the affair. Many of these staff members upon hearing the news took over one hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment and furniture. A criminal investigation is currently under way by the Ottawa County Sheriff's department and warrants have been issued. This moral failure on PG's part cannot go unnoticed and without the help of the community will continue to occur with other bodies of believers. PG admitted openly to the failure when first approached by the board and there is still no repentance for his behavior.


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#1 General Comment

Show the proof

AUTHOR: concerned christian - ()

 I have been unable to find any evidence of the accusations from Florida or Calvary Church. Where is the proof?

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Investigate

AUTHOR: Settlewithinvestigation - ()

All have sinned and come short. This will all come into the light. We should not point fingers but test the Spirit within us. Look into a past relationship with a Music Leader at Calvary Church in GR from the 90's. Check with Florida. Check with one of the first youth pastors at Wellspring. Check where he goes late at night. Dont follow blindly, turn on the light.

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#3 General Comment

Really?!?

AUTHOR: elialward - ()

"...and Matt has been seen hanging around a group of homosexuals, according to the report I have heard." 

You know who hung out with murders, thieves, prostitutes, tax collectors, women, children, the untouchables of society? Oh yeah, I think his name was Jesus. It's kind of crazy how you can hang out with people but you aren't guilty by association. But I guess, by your standards, Jesus must also be a murderer, a thief, a prostitute, basically a horrible person.

You sound so ignorant and so stupid. 

There is so much hatred in every single word you wrote, I don't know you (and I sure as hell never want to) But my God, was a god of love. He wished mercy on the very people who tortured and killed him. The words you wrote are not of God.

I don't even know what else to say, because your small, closed minded mind won't be able to understand it.  

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#4 Consumer Comment

Coffee Bar

AUTHOR: FleshyMcFlesherton - ()

I just pray to God that "Pastor" Gary Petersen spent some of the absconded funds building that much needed coffee bar at Wellspring before he got canned. I mean he IS the senior the pastor and no one can tell him he can't build a coffee bar if he wants to. The gall of some members thinking that those funds should've gone to the poor or hurting in West Michigan when it would mean that Gary and his cohorts would be denied a hot cup of joe isjust appalling. What Would Jesus Drink?

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#5 Consumer Comment

Wow, open your eyes "followers"

AUTHOR: Wakeupsheepal - ()

I can not believe how one man has blinded so many otherwise intelligent people. The first clue that's Gary is guilty of all is the simple fact that even way back when he was still leading Wellspring, he actually told the congregation who they could and could not associate with! Loving Godly people don't do that. Guilty ungodly people with something to hide do that! I ams o sickened by the fact that this man once again gets to go on and poison other people and influence people falsey. He is the one living in sin and as he himself said God will only allow it for so long, the truth and all of it will be exposed. 3 church's all the same reason for being asked to leave, and u want us to believe all 3 church's (that we have confirmed) are out to get him... I think not! God will be the final judged and the truth will be exposed for all to see, he is not (despite what he seems to portray) smarter than God. One day his house of oies will come falling down and I'm sure just like every other time he cry he is the victim. I pray that the people of the rock will have heir eyes opened and walk away.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Too many lies

AUTHOR: Following God - ()

It is unfortunate that you have chosen to believe the lies out there about Gary Petersen. If you had taken the time to ask about any of your concerns, you could have heard the truth and been provided evidence to support that truth.  Floats for the parades never cost "tens of thousands of dollars" as most of the supplies - including the candy handed out - was donated.

Gary did - and does - preach John 3:16.  He also preaches Ephesians 2:8, Galations 1:6, Hebrews 12:15, Hebrews 10:29, and many more. The vile and false accusations that have been brought against him were accepted as truth by the elders and deacons even when prosecutors asserted that there was no evidence.  They were taken as truth against the very constitution of the church - the same constitution that they now claim justifies their actions.

The financial books of Wellspring were always open for review. The single most-telling fact should be that every staff member left in support of him, even those for whom it was their only income.  They were and are confident that the lies were lies and the liars were not to be trusted.

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#7 General Comment

Some need to be broken in order to humble themselves

AUTHOR: ConcernedPerson - ()

I have been praying for all party's involved in this situation for quite a while.  That includes Wellspring Church and The Rock Church.  It is sad how Satan can turn us all against each other.  I did not file this report, but am fairly certain that the person who did does not have any ill wishes towards Gary and The Rock Church, but wants the truth to be known.  And does not want him to hurt more people and be in this leadership position.  As long as people are following him though he thinks he can do whatever he wants, wake up people!!  

Gary was asked to resign at Wellspring Church due to indisputable evidence.  Everyone loved him there and looked up to him.  Noone wanted to believe he could be capable of doing what he did but when they looked at the evidence they could not turn a blind eye.  Those who think everyone at Wellspring is against Gary, please understand they all looked up to him and would welcome him with open arms if he would just repent and admit his sins, and step down from the Pastoral position.  Although I don't see that happening, it is pretty obvious that he struggles with pride.  But I will keep praying and hope people will open their hearts and minds to the truth.  I do believe that people who go to The Rock Church should know what the person leading them is capable of.  He is very good at playing the victim and playing on people's emotions.  I noticed this when I attended Wellspring several years ago.  He does have some good qualities, he is likable and talented.  We all struggle with sin so I do not like pointing fingers at anyone but I do not want this man to be able to bring down more people, separate families, and cause so much grief.  

Reading the comments makes it seem like a fight between The Rock and Wellspring.  I do not attend either church.  Look at all the dissension one man has caused.  It needs to stop.  

"Jesus replied, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.  This is the first and greatest commandment.  And the second is like it, :Love your neighbor as yourself."  Matthew 22:37-39

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#8 General Comment

And you claim to be Christians

AUTHOR: The_Jenison_Legend - ()

How in the world can people who spew such hatred on the internet call themselves Christians? The slander that has been spread via Ripoffreport is ungodly in every possible way. Have you looked at what  Scripture has to say about slander and gossip? 

Leviticus 19:16 

16 You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall not stand up against the life of your neighbor: I am the LORD. 17 “You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.”

If you who have posted such bitterness claim to be Christians, then Pastor Gary is your brother. When you hold onto bitterness (Hebrews 12:15) a bitter root grows up to cause trouble and defile many. I can assure you that many have been defiled by your critical attitude of a pastor who deeply loves the people he has had the privilege of ministering to. 

The Bible calls us in Romans 12 to love our enemies, to overcome evil with good, not to sit at a distance and bash on other Christians. Even if all that was posted was true, it should never be posted on the internet. I am willing to bet, that since you bloggers are such avid gossipers, you do not have very many true friends. That is because any 

person with an ounce of common sense would know that they could never trust you. If you will say such demeaning things on the internet, how could your own family trust you? I am willing to bet that you are not at peace with your family. Actually, based on what most of you wrote, I know who you are, and I know that your family members do not have the best feelings toward you. Maybe you should spend a little more time loving on your sons and daughters and spend a little less time trying to destroy people online. Stop with the gossip already!!!

 Proverbs 20:19

19 A gossip betrays a confidence;  so avoid anyone who talks too much.

For all of you who have such a negative view of Pastor Gary Petersen, for those who have been able to identify so many of his faults, for those who have been so quick to destroy his character online, why have you not taken the time, in brotherly or sisterly love, to talk to him in person? 

That is what Matthew 18 would instruct you to do. On another note, how do clothes, hairstyles, and creativity have anything to do with being gay? Take a look at the world around you; they are more likely to hate you for being so judgmental than they are to join you in your small mindedness. How can you think that judging and hating someone for how they dress any different than Hitler hating people for their Jewish descent? I know some of you adamantly stand in support of God’s chosen people, some of you fight for the Republican party and the Tea Party (yeah, I know who you are) with every ounce of strength you have, some of you would stop at nothing to support the homeless downtown, but you seek to destroy the people within the church. 

How could all your supposed righteous works do any good when you cannot reconcile with people in the body of Christ. Who would want to be a part of the church when they see that this is how Christians treat each other? How have your posts expanded the kingdom of God? Jesus said they will know you are my disciples by your love, not by the way you tear each other down. I am a close friend to Pastor Gary, he would never post such hatred online and he would show love to anyone (no matter what they had done) in order to bring restoration. 

Pastor Gary stills loves the people at Wellspring, even though they have been corrupt in every way and have shown so much hatred toward him. I guess all this opposition proves his calling as a pastor called to preach the gospel. Jesus said if they hated me, they will hate you also. God is working in power at The Rock Church, the more resistance we face from the enemy, the more God’s Spirit work to spark revival. 

Have a blessed day all you slanderers, and know that there is no way to justify your hateful words, please take your slanderous posts down. For the sake of bringing glory to Christ and not shame!!

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#9 General Comment

Wellspring Church - House of Lies

AUTHOR: Nunurbiznus - ()

This is getting more sickening all the time! Don't you people have something better to do than make up more lies about Pastor Gary? This is cleary written by someone living in sin themselves, and refusing to repent of it.

Pastor Gary is NOT a homosexual!  Brain Ellens is a homosexual, and Matt Everitt more than likely is one, and Matt has been seen hanging around a group of homosexuals, according to the report I have heard. 

Now that Wellspring Church has no moral or spiritual leader, all the immoral people who left the Church for various reasons, Mostly because they were confronted about thier sin, got mad, and left the Church. These people have come flooding back into Wellspring ever since Pastor Gary left the Church, hmmm....? So now there no one at Wellspring to stand up and confront the sin of all these wayward people. 

I would bet that half the people still there at Wellspring, are unsaved, and their behavior over the last 3-4 months has proven this too be true. Honestly, I have never seen a group of so-called Christians spew so much hatred, and vialness as you people have. Countless threats against the Peterson family. Someone hired a Private Investigator to stalk them everywhere they go, and people spreading outright lies about Pastor Gary being a child molester (Tammy Kraai). People writing hateful emails, and harrassing the other Pastors (Chris Langeland), and etc.

Wellspring Church is a house of immorality! ICHABOD is written over it's doors (The Spirit of the Lord has Departed!) Your new Pastor (Tom Tenbrink) is a corrupt and evil man that has lied to the people repeatedly, and this can be proved. How long do you people expect God to sit back and allow you to carry on like this before he acts, and shuts you all down?

Shame on you for writting this trash about Pastor Gary and his Family!

May God sift you and cleanse his body at Wellspring Church of Hudsonville, MI

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#10 General Comment

Really? Really?

AUTHOR: Nunurbiznus - ()

Pastor Peterson is one of the most humble Pastors I have ever had the privelege of sitting under the ministry of. I have learned more about living a Grace filled life from him than from any other Pastor, because Gary lives it out, not just talks abou it.

The individual who wrote this letter critisizing Pastor Gary ought to be ashamed of themselves for gossiping, and dragging a man of God's name through the mud like this. You should exepect that what you have given out will come back to you, and you can be sure that it will not be something good.

So what if Pastor Gary wears cool clothes, and has nice furniture?  What is it any of your business where someone lives, and what kind of house they have? Where do you live, and how nice is your stuff? Pastor Gary did not blow the Lord's money on expensive things. I've never seen someone like him pinch pennies so tight that Abe Lincoln starts bleeding LOL! I assure your that with the new church he is not living lavishly as you have tried to paint, but rather they are living on a wing and a prayer these day's, as money is very tight.

I would also assert that Pastor Peterson preaches is faithful in preaching the Gospel, and giving invitations for lost people to accept Christ, and more than ever he wants to win souls for the Kingdom in these last day's.

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#11 General Comment

Pure Jesus or Pure Demonic Cult you decide.

AUTHOR: Jesus is lord - ()

I went to wellspring a few years ago with my family and I remember the first week I went there I thought "I haven't heard preaching like this in a long time this is awesome!!!" After a few weeks I started to tithe. I work with the hand of God with me very hard and the Lord has blessed myself and my family. Once I started giving amounts that were in the thousand's of dollars Gary Peterson started to really want to get to know me. Maybe it was a coincidence I don't believe it was. Gary blew the Lord's money on metro sexual styled trinkets, flowers, furniture etc. In the mean time there are children with no winter boots or coats. My Jesus was born in a manger, wore simple clothes and rode on donkeys healing the sick mainly the poor. Jesus said it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matt 19:24. Gary lives on a lake in Georgetown shores in a very flashy expensive house, his furniture costs more than most people's homes in the Grandville and Jenison area. Does this man have the traits of Jesus???

There are several questions that you need to ask your self before you follow this man. I would recommend using the wisdom that God has given you and listening to the Holy Spirit to know if this man is a demon or a man of God.

 

1. Does Gary share a message of John 3:16 every week? For God So loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life.

2. Ephesians 2-8:9  For by Grace you are saved through faith not of works lest any man shall boast.

Spending tens of thousands of dollars on parade floats and flash trying to impress people the Jim Baker way is out of touch with God's word. Read the bible and surround yourselves with older people that can not be swayed by the demonic influence. 1 Timothy 3:7 Have a good reputation with those outside the church so that he will not fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. 1 Timothy 3:3 Flee from the love of money. 1 Peter 5:8 Stay alert! Watch out for your great enemy, the devil. He prowls around like a roaring lion, looking for someone to devour.

Gary's reputation speaks for itself. A man who is the exact opposite from 1 CorinthIans 13:4 Love is patient love is kind. It does not envy,it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices in truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Please read the bible for your self. If it is not in alignment with God's own word don't walk away please run away. I know in my heart this man is deeply demonic. The people who followed Jim Jones and the peoples temple all committed suicide drinking the Kool aid. Those followers thought Jim Jones was a special preacher. Sound familiar??? I pray in the name of Jesus Christ that God makes this situation right. You decide it's your choice. There are plenty of churches in town that follow the bible.

 

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#12 General Comment

NOT EVERYONE LIES

AUTHOR: THINK ABOUT IT - ()

How many churches has Gary Peterson been asked to reside from now? Whether it was a church he began or not. I know of three myself, there could be more. I am sure this has nothing to do with his "strong personality" and "leadership skills" but rather other issues with his character or lack thereof. To suggest that the entire congregations and board members at each of these churchs have all turned their back on him for pretty much no reason at all, doesn't really add up. Especially because it has happened multiple times. Stories and rumors can get twisted that is true- but I am sure in each church he starts or has worked in, this does not continuously happen to one person because of their personality type. There are issues deeper than some would like to believe, and by him not addressing any of them to the congregation or the public, makes him appear cowardly, not Godly. Run away and start another church Peterson, and hope your sheep follow. 

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Terrible Actions by a Terrible Man

AUTHOR: ConcernedCitizen - ()

I believe that the complaint is spot on.  Pastor Gary, or PG as is his common sign off, is a perfect example of greed and narcissim.  He built this church from nothing, and expected himself and his family to be treated as "rulers" of their little kingdom, with the congregation their idiot savants, just expected to agree and praise their every action.  His wife is clueless, his eldest daughter is hardly around, his youngest son is barely in grade school and his middle child is currently engaged to PG's "right hand man".  The poor girl is barely graduated from high school and got engaged almost immediately after.  It is not hard to imagine that the relationship was brought into existence by her father's pressure.    

PG is commonly known by the congregation to be a homosexual. He makes an effort to hide it, but clearly it is not enough.  As if the man jewlery, generally ridiculous hair/fashion and adopted children are not enough evidence that he prefers sex with men, the fact is that he has all the hallmarks of a closeted queer.  He promotes a strong anti-gay agenda, no doubt because he has so long been afraid and ashamed of his own sexuality.  

PG repeatedly voiced his highly conservative poltiical opinion and put down or "froze out" anyone who dared to disagree with him. And it was not limited to politics, he did this over any disagreement.  He was clearly the King of the Castle, and expected his followers to obey.  Honestly, when you hear about the personalities of religious leaders who inflict sexual abuse, he fits the text book profile.  He was extremely powerful, extremely charismatic, and to a young impressional man it was no doubt incredibly intimidating to make allegations against someone of such stature.  What is funny about this is PG often preached about how a pastor is not the star of the church, Jesus Christ and God are. Yet PG clearly considered himself the star of his little cult that he liked to call a church.  Actions are not the same as words, and PG's rarely matched each other.   

In addition to the sexual abuse allegations, (which were supported with AMPLE evidence, that not everyone was privy to), he had no problem helping himself to the money that flowed in to the ministry from his sheep-like followers.  PG is a thief who liked to live well, and he had no problem doing so under the guise of "supporting the church."  He frequently elicited spontaneous donations, such as to take a "hard working" choir out to dinner to congratulate them for all their efforts.  How much money was accrued and where it ended up is anyone's guess.  And if there are any personal items he is complaining about "missing and not being allowed to retrieve", it is because they are CHURCH property, not HIS.  He clearly has a hard time separating the two.    

Now he is taking his family a few miles away and getting ready to again prey on the ignorant and/or desperate.  His son-in-law to be is his number 2 and most important "yes man", and they are already opening up church offices.  They've organized a number of family oriented events and special events for men, women and couples.  This man was kicked out of his church for a reason.  Please, do not be sucked in.  He is a grifter of the worst kind and will grab from you whatever he can. 

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#14 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

Motives

AUTHOR: Truth Tenbrink - ()

Lets stop and take a look at some things that may shed some light on this little episode.  First, who uses words like Pastoral Personality Cult?  A board member perhaps? Second, if we examine the background of the staff and of Pastor Gary, I think we will find a group of people who have worked hard to glorify the name of Christ, and to spread the gospel.  I think we will find people who were broken, had given up, and through positive mentorship and the power of the Holy Spirit have turned thier lives around, and now work super hard to help others come to know Jesus.

Why then would someone want to vilify a Pastor who worked so hard all of his life to build up; churches, people, and the Gospel?  Interestingly, I think there are a few reasons, and only a few people who know all the facts.  Could it be that Pastor said something that convicted someone of a personal sin issue?  Could it be that someone had issues with Pastor standing up to him at board meetings.  Well, this Tenbrink certianly thinks so.

Since the church split the Pastor and some of the staff have been attacked verbally, and in a few cases physical threats and intimidations have been made.  Since a board member is a member of the Ottawa County Sherrif's department, as well as a member being a prominently retired member of the OCS, they have been able to get no help at all.  In fact, there have been a number of civil rights violations perpetrated against the Pastor by the OCS themselves. 

To say that the enemy has a foothold in the minds of many of these people is an understatement.  To say that most of the church body does not even know the extreme measures that have been taken to literally destroy Pastor, is also an understatement.  Lets hope that God will work in thier lives and stop this madness. 

 

 

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#15 General Comment

Your Just Plain Wrong!

AUTHOR: Nunurbiznus - ()

First off Pastor Petersen has started a second the Church, the Rock Church in Grandville, MI, after being forced to resign without a congregational vote being taken per the Churches Constitution, which requires a 75% vote of the membership. Pastor Petersen was not allowed to give his side of the story, nor was he compensated financially by Wellspring Church for eighteen years of dedicated service. Wellspring Church still owes Pastor Petersen his retirement fund, and some of his personal property remained at Wellspring Church, which he was not allowed to even retrieve.

As far as Pastor Petersen having a sexual relationship with a former staffer, this is NOT true at all. The former staffer (Matthew Everett) has sexual perversion issues, and was counseled to change his way's, and he did not do this. Instead he chose to contrive a plan that caused great harm to the Church, and too the Petersen family. Pornography was found on Mr. Everett's computer at Wellspring Church, and Mr. Everett has a habit of having a filthy mouth, and an arrongant attitude to boot. 

The leadership of the board at Wellspring Church used Mr. Everett's false accusations to oust Pastor Petersen from his position as lead Pastor of Wellspring Church, a Church he founded in his basement with ten people eighteen years ago. False evidence was presented to make the accusations appear real so that many would believe that Pastor P. had done this thing he was being accused of.

Evidence that is contrary to the false evidence presented the congregation of Wellspring Church exists, and anyone is welcome to talk with Pastor P. at anytime they are able to do so. Pastor Petersen maintains that his innocence, and has been reluctant to use this evidence against the board at Wellspring. Pastor P. has maintained  a spirit of humility, and grace, wanting to pray for the people left at Wellspring, and wanting to show them love, not hatred.

 

After repeated threats, and acts of intimidation aimed at he, his family, and his staff members, Pastor P. may be forced to take the necessary action, or legal action to force and end too actions of those who can't get over themselves, and feel the need to continue causing issues. Pastor P. wants everyone to just move on in thier own lives, and wishes the congregation at Wellspring Church the Blessing of God. We ask that those remaining at Wellspring lay down their swords of hate, and move forward for the Kingdom of God, so that both congregations can be Blessed by God, and there will not be warring between the two.

The Rock Church will move forward regardless, and God will be Glorified regardless of those who chose the path of bitterness, and hate against it's Pastor, and it's people. Pastor P. would exhort everyone to show grace to each other, and too love one another in the Lord, and not continue on the path to self destruction. Pastor P. is already experiencing the fruit of his labors as more than one people have already found Christ through the ministry of the Rock Church.

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#16 General Comment

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT

AUTHOR: Concerned - ()

WELLSPRING WAS THE ONLY CHURCH THE PETERSENS STARTED.

THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN ASKED TO LEAVE A CHURCH BECAUSE OF SEXUAL MISCONDUCT.

THEY HAVE LEFT BECAUSE OF VARIOUS REASONS FOR EACH CHURCH THEY WERE ASSOCIATED WITH.  I AM NOT GETTING INTO DETAILS. EACH ONE HAD THEIR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES RELATED TO DISAGREEMENTS OF BELIEFS, JEALOUSY OF SENIOR PASTORS ETC.

GARY AND BECKY ARE EXTREMLY CREATIVE AND CHARASMATIC PEOPLE AND THEREFORE A TARGET OF THOSE THAT LIKE TO DESTROY OR TAKE BLAME OFF THEMSELVES.  HUMAN BEINGS TEND TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME.  LOOK AT THE NEWS!  IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME IN THE CELEBRITY AND GOVERNMENT WORLD. 

I KNOW GARY AND HE WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING LIKE HE WAS ACCUSED OF.  PEOPLE LIE.  IT IS SIMPLE AS THAT.  PEOPLE CONVINCE THEMSELVES THAT THINGS ARE TRUE THAT ARE NOT.  WE ARE PEOPLE THAT SIN ALL THE TIME.  WHY DO YOU JUDGE WHEN YOU WERE NOT THERE?  IS IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT? 

NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT SAY THEY THAT GARY CONTROLS PEOPLE, I AM SAYING THAT HE IS BY HIS OWN PERSONALITY A TAKE CHARGE TYPE.  HE GETS THINGS DONE AND THE WAY HE INVISIONS THEM TO BE.  HE IS FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS A GREAT CORPORATE CEO.  DIDN'T HE LEAD OTHERS IN BUILDING WELLSPRING FROM NOTHING?  DIDN'T HE HELP TAKE GRACE FROM SOME SMALL CHURCH TO BUILDING A LARGE CHURCH?

I ALSO KNOW THAT GARY AND BECKY HAVE DONATED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF PERSONAL PROPERTY TO ALL THEIR CHURCHES.  THEY ARE GIVERS AND NEVER EXPECT BACK.  THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GRACIOUS AND LOVING PEOPLE.  THEY ALSO USE THEIR OWN PROPERTY AT THE CHURCH.  IS IT STEALING IF THEY TAKE IT WITH THEM?  JUST BECAUSE IT IS IN THE BUILDING DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT BELONGS TO THE CHURCH.  PEOPLE ASSUME THINGS AND WANT TO DEMONIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY WANT TO FURTHER THEIR CAUSE.

NOW, HERE IS THE SHOCKING THING!  I AM NOT A SUPPORTER OF WELLSPRING OR THE ROCK AND DO NOT AGREE WITH SOME OF THE BELIEFS THEY OR THE PETERSENS HOLD TO BE TRUE.  I AM JUST A CONCERNED PERSON THAT WILL NOT STAND FOR PEOPLE DESTROYING OTHERS.

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