• Report: #856449

Complaint Review: Thomas PaPa MTJJ OF California

  • Submitted: Mon, March 19, 2012
  • Updated: Wed, November 13, 2013

  • Reported By: David — Pond Creek Oklahoma United States of America
Thomas PaPa MTJJ OF California
1250 Oakmead Parkway Ste 210 Sunnyvale, California United States of America

Thomas PaPa MTJJ OF California Thomas PaPa Thomas PaPa with MTJJ of California Stold $45,000 Of my Earnest Money from MTJJ Earnest Account that was supposed to be on escrow awaiting a purchase of realestate lease transaction Sunnyvale, California

*Author of original report: Yes Black and White Proof of a skunk liar Sanchez

*Author of original report: Skunk Stanley Sanchez Promises to pay 9 months ago

*Consumer Comment: Thomas Papa held on $2,000,000.00 Bond

*Consumer Comment: Updates

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Subpoenia To Court is True

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Subpoenia to Court for fraud

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Last one, I give up

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Liar Scammer, Will be arrested

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Now maybe you will believe. Insanity

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Liar Scammer, Will be Arrested Jail Bird

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Refuses to Pay as of 5/3/2102, No Money period

*Consumer Comment: ROBERT San Ramon

*Consumer Comment: Are you David Pond or Steve Wynn

*Author of original report: Thomas Papa Scam Liar, Theift of my $45,000Thomas Papa advertrises an a lender but

*Consumer Comment: Another MTJJ victim

*Consumer Comment: Mr. David

*Consumer Comment: So Sad

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: IIlegal Activities

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Illegal Claims

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Illegal Claims

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On November 2,2011 Thomas PaPa with MTJJ of CA. signed a Contractual agreement with me and Medalists Energy to fund a realestate transaction for and Oil lease of 8440 acres on Kansas. November 11,2011 I wired $45,000 cash to the Bank of the West, MTJJ Earnest Account Routing#121100782  with contracts signed by Thomas Papa to refund within 3 days if for any reason the transaction was terminated for any reason by either party by California Law was written on the contract. Thomas stated that he could fund the 9 million dollar loan within 14 days. For 139 days we heard excuses after excuses after excuses. THomas stated the first 63 days that he had funding with Merril Lynch as he had a multi million dollar realeastate trust that he was getting a loan on that equity for us. It never came through. Then for another about 76 days Thomas Papa stated the he had a close friend Steve Wynn the famous Las Vegas Casino Billionare, who was a close friend and mentor to Mr. Papa. Thomas PaPa stated to the group, me and Medalists, that Steve Wynn co signed a note at Steve Wynns Bank in California for Thomas PaPa for our 9 million and even provided me and Medalists with Steve Wynns personal banking and accounting information and numbers where the funds were comming from and labeled it POF( Proof Of Funds),  man were we excited to hear that.I have that evidence for anyone if needed. We got emails after emails after emails and solid proof from Thomas PaPa that He was approved for the loan of Steve Wynns Money, and the loan will process then be paid to us,but for some reason the money was comming from a casino bank overseas and had to go theough 4 banks and then to us. Email after email telling us to wait and wait and wait, milking us. milking us milking us with excuses and excuses, with Thomas Papa stating all along the whole ordeal to just wait or I will just refund, of you want the earnest money back any time you can have it no problem.PaPa called me personally to state to me it's on it's way. Yea Yea and I congradulated him. The origination of the funds was  from me and loaned to me from my father  81 who died September 27,2012 worrying about the $45,000 not being given back to him after the original 14 day promise default. The Acreage was sold to another party. Medalist and I have sent certified demand documents for return of the $45,000 Earnest by mail after many email responses have  failed to get the refund. Thomas PaPa stated to me that the money was not stolen but Papa will not say a word to  the where abouts of the funds. I have contacted Deputy District Attorney Javier Alcala for crimes that occur in Sunnyvale, California at jalcala@da.sccgov.org and Phone Number (650)-324-6400 for assistance. DA's office was notified by email with a complete file sent by email on 3/16/2012. Today 3/20/2012 it has been 5  days later and the DA,s office has still been reluctant to respond to the reported felony crime of my Stolen $45,000 earnest money. I have pleaded nicely and begged nicely for Thomas to repay the money back to me to return back to my father who died very worried about the refund of the Earnest money, but of no avail and cooperation as of yet. I need somehow for the govenor to step in for assistance. Justice will prevail soon I pray. My father retired from the Boeing Aircraft Company, and Designed the Guidance and Deterrent Systems on the Presidential Plane Boeing 747 for President George Bush. A verey nice and generous man dedicated his life to this good country USA.  Thank you, and any help will be appreciated.  David Pond Creek, Oklahoma

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#1 Author of original report

Yes Black and White Proof of a skunk liar Sanchez

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

http://www.sos.state.co.us/biz/BusinessEntityDetail.do?quitButtonDestination=BusinessEntityResults&fileId=20111147505&masterFileId =20111147505&srchTyp=ENTITY&entityId2=20111147505&nameTyp=ENT

The link above show the company is in good standing

Danielle

From: David and Consuelo
Soucek [mailto:(((email redacted)))]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 5:39 PM
To: Danielle Chapman
Subject: Re: FW:

Papa

I dont have Stanley s SSN  for the loan he was crafty not to give, I was really trusting him during the time frame that all this came about so who knows, who is being honest when these things come apart, nevetheless you have to get the SSN from him or you get the 1099 Misc and you have to sue him for it I guess. Anyway the lawyer says you have to come up with it or I have no choice, SSN's are valid not LLC's if they are closed, Stanley promised you to pay me 9 months ago and he never did, but Ill bet he sure has been eating good since then.

David 

--- On Mon, 1/21/13, Danielle Chapman <danielle.bustradedevelopment@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Danielle Chapman <danielle.bustradedevelopment@gmail.com>
Subject: FW: Papa
To: "'David and Consuelo ****'" (((email redacted)))
Date: Monday, January 21, 2013, 12:26 PM

See attached?

David

as per Stanley email below he will take the responsibility for the loan. You have his social security number on the loan documents he sent to bank for the loan.

I do not have access to the info you requested on Stanley or his company. Below along with attachment is the last correspondence Stanley would have with me as he is very angry I perused turning Tom Papa over to authorities and the bullsh*t contract he gave me in regards to employment I handed over to my attorney along with the information on the loan officer whom introdroduced Stanley to Tom Papa.

Best Regards,
Danielle


From: Stanley S. Sanchez [mailto:mrstansanchez@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 1:02 PM
To: Danielle Chapman
Subject: Papa

In regard to Papa I will square away the bank in OK. When I get cash in hand I will be engaging John and he will pay the $45k as the interest to the bank, if the bank doesn't take it I will give him the lawyers number. I will pay the the $45k, interest and maybe $1k for the initial lawyer work but that's it.

So we are clear, Tom never intended to hurt anyone and there was no theft, I want to make sure you know that. He is guilty on how he handled (very sloppy) as putting together wrong paperwork but he intended to get everyone squared away. If people would have stopped we would not be here but it did, given the deal that was presented to him on Wednesday if he does it no one will get paid, the deal is of time and no repayment with get out early for good behavior. There are 16 lies in the documents from the DA as false amounts which drove the sentence, but without legal help he cannot fight it and the Public Defender does not want to help.

Regards,
-- Stanley S. Sanchez

Brookside International, LLC
(505) 234-6156

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#2 Author of original report

Skunk Stanley Sanchez Promises to pay 9 months ago

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

Mr. Sanchez we have enough evidence to enter as exhibit and a consulting contract from your emails and discussions with
Mr. Soucek, plus the one you made. You will have an up hill battle trying to convince a jury that you didn't actually hire someone who put up $45,000 on your behalf, to establish you own oil company.

Point One

Sure is funny Mr Sanchez that you do not have one shred of written and or otherwise evidense asking and or suggesting that the checks are not to be cashedPoint #2 I we have written evidence in documents that right around,  before, during, and the time frames you have discussed, that Mr. Soucek was employed by you as a consultant, you orally duscussing employment and excepting employment and then proof by sending the checks prepaying for the services that were rendered to you. Various meetings, drilling contracts, Notice of intents to drill, and many many other documents of work performed by Mr. Soucek  for you and your oil Company.  We have over 100 documents from you discussing the partials of Oil developmentation of the Oil lease in question.  You need to get you a lawyer as we are proceeding to take legal action against you and your partner for restitution, punative damages, and attorney fees, court costs associated with these monies you owe Mr. Soucek.

If you want to discuss any settlement agreement, that will be exceptable to Mr. Soucek, then I will pass your offer on to my client. All steelements ond or offers are dismissed if not agreed upon prior to jury trial.

--- On Mon, 6/11/12, David Henneke / Debi Williams

<henneke1@suddenlink.net> wrote:


From:

David Henneke / Debi Williams <henneke1@suddenlink.net>

Subject: Fw:

Thomas Papa Deposit

To: "David and Consuelo Soucek"

<dcsoucek@yahoo.com>

Date: Monday, June 11, 2012, 2:37 PM

From: Stanley S. Sanchez

Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 3:43 PM

To: David Henneke

Subject: Thomas Papa Deposit

Mr. Henneke,

My name is Stanley S Sanchez and I contacted you awhile back to determine if Thomas Papa was complying with your requests to the deposit refund.

I am writing due to the circumstances I doubt any refund will be coming from Thomas at this time. I wanted to get your
wiring information so I have it on file as what were the expenses associated with trying to collect (your expenses) from Mr. Papa. I am working on closing on a potential deal in Hong Kong but I cannot promise when it will exactly occur. However if it does I will be clearing this matter in terms of the deposit.

Note, we intended to clear this up myself last month but our sugar deal to Kilergyo in Istanbul, Turkey fell through due to the buying broker becoming greedy on the fees so I was unable to do so which was most unfortunate.

I know you have been copied on various comments in regard to checks and ect I wanted to inform you that I have attached a copy to the Albuquerque Police department in regard to illegal activity Mr. Socuek as conducted to obtain funds illegally through the banking system. The white collar crimes unit has taken over and information on the police report is below. The Pond Creek Police Department was informed by me, and the bank (Wells Fargo) also has the information.

Case# 120041108

CAD# 121250996

Officer S. Gomez

White Collar Crime Unit

Further to the previous, a report on harassment and threats was also filed by the officer which they recommended that I file a restraining order against Mr. Socuek but I have yet to determine if I want to implement that at this time. I wanted to make sure you had proper facts and an understanding what has occurred due to David lying and misrepresenting many areas. Therefore, I refuse to speak directly to parties who have misrepresented and threaten me which I find as unproductive and
worrisome.

Note, Mr. Soucek was not a partner but only the sellers broker and possible contractor to Medalist. Many areas were contingent upon funding and acquisition, Medalist was not capitalized and a complete start-up as all parties knew. I have consulted with our attorneys on this matter already.

I am one that prefers cordial and constructive behavior with tac to resolve disputes regardless of emotions or current situations. Again, please send your wire information, when I have liquidity, I will promptly send the appropriate funds
to clear the deposit matter.

Regards,
--

Stanley S. Sanchez

Brookside International, LLC

(505) 234-6156

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AssistanceExperian

ProblensGenworthLifeApplicat...GeologyUnderstanding...GO BIG PROGRAMINFO

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Thomas Papa held on $2,000,000.00 Bond

AUTHOR: Dwayne - (Canada)

Well Thomas Papa is in jail you dummy Stan (Stanley Sanchez with Brookside International) who is involved with and Will be in jail also for his involvement with Thomas Papa and who also Borrowed the $45,000 paid to Thomas Papa from the First State Bank, Pond Creek, Okla and has defaulted on his contract and promise and is being sued also along with Thomas Papa, boy what pari of nerves you have to say anything you are in the same category as an excessory to the crimes commited by this man also. Wont you worry about you own skin who is going to be in court soon for your involvement with Thomas Papa also. Brookside International/ Medalists/ both are LLC'c and the Owner Stanley Sanchez has filed brankrupsy previously, so hey world check it out  before you do any business with this man Sanchez from Brookside International, who promoted and stands behind Thomas Jail Bird Papa. Stanley guess what you cant file brankrupsy again on this note you owe, Ha Ha. see you in court, I  even made Sanchez personal jackets and sent  him Sausage   for a greetings present, what a scammer this Sanchez is, a smooth talker, OH he knows all about the Bible and quoted it also, but has forgot what it stands for and means when it comes to honour your promise to man, especially when it is in a contractual format on written documents.
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AUTHOR: Robert of San Ramon - (United States of America)

Dave, I was wondering if there were any updates in your case. 
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#5 Author of original report

Thomas Papa Subpoenia To Court is True

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

Dear Mr. David I just checked if your statement was true about Thomas Papa and I found out that it was, and to all whom is concerned here is you evidence see below for the worlds eyes the truth is now, Thomas Papa is a crook. Will be going to jail, is a fraud, doen not pay back his stolen money, must be a very disturbed individual who needs to be removed from the society population legally by a judge, and be put into incerceration with his type of people, crooks, theives,liars,truce breakers, heady, highminded, backbiters, lovers of themselves,fraudlent lenders,scum.

(http://www1.odcr.com/detail?court=027-&casekey=027-CJ++1200012)
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Thomas Papa Subpoenia to Court for fraud

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

Dear Tom I am very sorry, that you had to shut down your fraud realestate lending Company MTJJ, but it wont matter, cause you will  be ordered to appear in court to answer for internet fraud,acting as realestate lender with out being duly licensed and or bonded,steeling Trust earnest Money from innocent people. Are you still hiding from the law? What a big baby you are, steeling from honest people who trusted you, do you think I would really put up with the likes of you if all this wasn't true. You will stand before the judge and I will put it on the internet, all over the internet,everywhere on the internet, this will be national news very soon, you are the 21century bonnie and clyde, you think, your really something, but I think that you are mentally mad at the world, and headed to a 5 by 9 cell after the court gets done with you. OH by the way the new scam LLC that you may have just opened or established will be shut down cause you will be in Jail soon. All you had to do was pay me my $45,000 and now the attorneys will take over, sure is funny that you never address the deposit issue, or that you spent the stolen $45,000, but I have your emails that state different, now your attorney bill from me is higher than the deposit. I wil lbe glad when justice happends to you, your sick, and I know you must be worried, You stated in you last mail that yousit in the chair every day, but I have called your secretary every day forc three months and she states that your never there. You have scamming down pat, at least you think you think you do. Three judges will be assigned to you, one in California, one in Oklahoma and one in Heaven, sorry you cant escape all three of them. 
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Last one, I give up

AUTHOR: Thomas Papa - (United States of America)

You are right Matt 42 and All the others why do I Answer. Look what happens. A crazy person who is not owed a dime has the whole world believing, George Bush, The Govenor, Bill Clinton, Every lawyer and DA in America after me except I sit 5 miles a way And they can't find me. I'm done You only answer for the good people who actually try to solve things. That was the 2 most ignorant posts I have ever read then after all that you ask Phoenix for help. MTJJ is closed, every person in any even who is involved knows it. I will be at my office today so make sure I am hard to find. If it wasn't so sad it woukd be a joke. Violent and threatening yeah that's me. We felt sorry for you. Your restraining order will be posted on this site and that will be my last post. You cant win. You try to answer and ten people immediately jump in and send that pay me to delete text. Not a dime. What I don't understand is that any real person who knows me can believe there is a national manhunt whe I sit in the same chair . Same house . Is there any common sense left. You all have my number but since the first post was made on this site I have never got one call, one request for anything and have begged the Big Miami hotel owner 3 times to post. It is a joke and I am sorry to the good people who we actually are solving. Has this worked ? It's only backed things up because of the ridiculous tine involved. Good luck to all. To be clear to all you super agents, MTJJ is And has been gone but my number and place of business aren't changed so make sure you pass on for the manhunt. I sit in the same spot. I do not get the logic. Thanks to all for the good wishes and to you others good luck. Get a life, Mine isn't that exciting. Be around today if anyone wants to call....of course not, Then you would have to put your name. Do you actually think it's not known.. Good Luck all. So when the next lies are posted and I don't answer just call me. I will still be there. Sorry David it takes reality not fantasy and threatening to blow up kids. Sick. With the whole US government on your side why do you need Phoenix help. Take care, type away you only make me sound better.

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#8 Author of original report

Thomas Papa Liar Scammer, Will be arrested

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

Dear Sir from Phoenix can you tell me if anything that Thomas Papa did to you and are you going through the legal channels to get your money from him. I think that Thomas Papa  scams on person to pay another person to scam one person to pay another person, someone needs to sue the entire group of partners in MtJJ of california please reply

Dave

PS by the way you were right on and correct with your assumption on Stanley Sanchez (Brookside International) (alias Stan)

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#9 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Now maybe you will believe. Insanity

AUTHOR: Thomas Papa - (United States of America)

David I guess thank you is in order. You could not make the case for insanity better. As Matt 42 says why do u answer. How do u not answer. This is just sad as I have been trying to say. We all wish you would do as requested my medical staff. You are not a member of anything and just read the insanity written. I sit in the same chair, never go anywhere. How hard is it to find me. To use Stan and Danielle is sickening as you steal things and then Blame Them. There are 4 lawsuits against you and now maybe President Bush, governors, worst part is people may have doubts but not one person alive would think I am violent and threatening. Not 1. Please...Never, not even you can sell that. You are obsessed over medical reasons, facing your own charges and you are not even apart of this deal.
Why didn't anyone request a copy of payment. The problem is as always you have ignited all the exact same people with the exact same postings. It's over , MTJJ has been closed and any real customer knows it. Every one, why don't you. They all have new documents. Why dont you. You either Steve.
Please just get back on your meds and move forward . Just actually read what u write. You make my case of this whole disgusting posting place. Now Matt maybe you see why answers. Craziness....sadness
Man for a closed corporation you sure write alot and force answers always. Please , you don't have to call me at midnight to say look what I did. Sad . Hope you get better. For all those looking , be at the seat until
1 PM so not to hard to find. What a waste of human energy day after day over a total
Of 3 real people. Sickening . Good luck David. Since you have called 142 times tonight and yes they are saved, try to just get help. Violent and threatening, I can here people saying d**n, he is wrong, Tom
Is a lot of things but not violent and threatening. Good night until
Tomorrow. As you said you will post 100. Keep typing. Good night.
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#10 Author of original report

Thomas Papa Liar Scammer, Will be Arrested Jail Bird

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

I promise you Tom has not paid me, and refuses to talk and has ignored me until I complained on the internet, I never threatened him once and he has no documentation to prove his lies about that. The District Attorney is investigating him and he will be arrested very shortly, He is being sued,my me also, I have attoneys on him now, but he is to scared to admit it. He has stolen $45,000 cash from me  and the money was supposed to be put into a earnest Trust account in Bank of the West  Routing number 121100782, awaiting funding, no one was to steel that money until closing the loan, but dummy Tom stold it from the trust account, Those Honest hard working Partners Tom has Stanley Sanchez gave me $188,000.00 in account closed and insufficient checks and no money yet and the DA is getting ready to file criminal charges if the investigation proves services rendered, Tom on the other hand is a very disturbed individual, and should seek mental help, probably shock treatment or something that get his thinking back in order. There are many others who are involved with this criminal activity as well, so dont let Toms fancy evasive writing fool you. He knows it's almost over for him, he has been caught and will go to jail very soon. I will Keep the ripoff report current as to his court appearances and Bonds Posted for release, if he even gets released, that depends on how hard it will be to catch him by the detectives.

Thank you David 
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#11 Author of original report

Thomas Papa Refuses to Pay as of 5/3/2102, No Money period

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

Dear Thomas Papa I got your threatening email to harm me physically, but Im not scared of you. Little dogs always bark the loudest, you refuse to  pay the $45,000. plus interest, plus punative damages, plus attorneys fees, plus court costs  that you stold from me, and you stated to me" see you in hell", and is that how you treat people that you steel from? I will see you in court someday I pray, and I will see to it that you never have a real estate lending business again. You are a hibitual professional liar, and I told you if you said one comment against the truth, then I will put your entire folder on the iternet for all to see what kind of crook you really are, frauding innocent people out of their money and then stating to the world that you paid me, you are sick, and need some time in prison to get your thoughts together and find your self again. I will be loading the promisary note that states you promised to pay me back by California Law in three days, advertising your self as a lender, emails refusing to pay,all your comments about getting the money from Steve Wynn who co signed your note, and you sending us Proof of funding with Steve Wynns account numbers from his bank Bank of America in Las Vegas, Casino Cash Account and also his Bank of America, Beverley Hills  Steve Wynns   lending Account. You  stating that you refused to pay back the money, statements from the attorney that you refused to pay, emails stating that you wired the money to the attorneys, which never happened, and just tonight you said you wont pay it, you are a master in professional lying, excuses, delaying promises, molasses type of interacton which goes nowhere, you told me 5 separate times on a monday by email that you are paying me by friday, but 5 fridays have come and gone, You will be in jail, you will be in jail, you will be in jail, you will be in jail, and it's all your falt, no one else but yours. Danielle said that they will also join me in putting you away so that you never steel from anyone again. They will help me put you away in jail and you can talk to the walls for the next 40 years. I cant wait to see you when you are sentenced to jail, the look on your face, the tears in your eyes, just as you have made me cry many nights for you not paying me back. I will let the law put you away for internet fraud, it is a felony and you can serve many years for it, and I will see to it thay you are punished by the law, so keep flapping your lying lips cause here comes the documents, on the intenet, your contracts, your emails Steve Wynns personal banking information you gave all of us with your made up sceaming fraud that you got his 9 million from him from the Beverley Hills Bank. Wow you are a giant liar, but you have awaken a sleeping giant and now justice will prevail, I can see the National Headlines Now just after trhe President stated that He will come down hard on these lending practices and then you go and do a stupid stunt like this you dummy, You will be made an example off very soon for others not to follow in your footsteps. What did you buy your self with my stolen money  did you buy some flowers for someone with my hard earned money, well see I will trace every dime of it with subpoenias, I told you not to comment now the documents will be on the internet, as soon as I can get them, so keep lying, Your jail cell is waiting for you
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#12 Consumer Comment

ROBERT San Ramon

AUTHOR: matt42 - (United States of America)

Robert,

You can call the Santa Clara District Attorney. YOu will then have to contact the major fraud unit. Also depending on the details of your situation you may be advised to go to the police department and report the crime. They will determine if his violation is a civil or criminal matter. Good luck and let us know how you make out.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Are you David Pond or Steve Wynn

AUTHOR: Thomas Papa - (United States of America)

David, we are all sorry about your Dad and when you snapped. Had nothing to do with this. We have tried ro be nice but if you got paid by the lie and word it would be cheaper. To be clear, the owners of the company you mention which you have no right too, The Marketing Department, Lenders, Bankers, employees , legal representatives all conspired to get you The Broker. Yep that is how it always works. You have been paid and receipt available . We are sorry for all the other pain but your death threats since your Dad, The constant lies and making up alias names doesn't change we are done. Estate attorneys also all conspired together against the broker. Also last week you went on line as Steve Wynn here but spelled it wrong. You have been paid, everyone has confirmations and you are under care and watched by DA in OKLAHOMA for death threats issues by mail and using bible passages. You snapped, we are sorry but between the above, George Bush and the Govenor getting us if it wasn't sad it is comical. Post those Steve Wynn personal Bank records because he always puts then in emails . You take what others say and dementia takes over. What Is really sad is that you now add Stan and Danielle two hard working honest executives and say not just me but your own people all turned at once against you. Why would anyone do that under common sense. Let's not forget the bible passage last week where you blow up our house and kids in it. You have been thrown out of the law firm and to be clear there is no such place as The Sunnyvale DA and the DA email linking is dead so that may be why it is slow going . This is just sad. What is bad is that the 3 people on here with legitimate claims pay for it when you go off your rocker. Like we said, proof is easy to post and I will post payment just to make easy. I hope you find some peace but we are closed. If you wouldn't call we wouldn't even know you this AGAIN. Who will you be next week, Bill Clinton. Sorry but this is sickening

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#14 Author of original report

Thomas Papa Scam Liar, Theift of my $45,000Thomas Papa advertrises an a lender but

AUTHOR: David - (USA)

 The Gods truth is Stanley Sanchez(505) 234-6156/(505)836-9507/mrstansanchez@gmail.com>;  Advertising himself as a big multi billion investment planner as Brookside International and fund finder of loans  answered an add in the Go Big network under my membership that I had to sell a lease for Wecvo Productions, Stanley Found Thomas Papa(408)835-2462/(408)487-3215/thomasrpapa@aol.com>; and who both needed $45,000 to fund a 9 million lease acerage purchase I was selling for Wevco Productions Columbus Ohio for Bill Vanentine and Steve Case,I sent the $45,000 to Thomas Papa on November the tenth 2011 but just berfore that Stanley Stated that Tom had over 6million in his checking, and this was checked by Stanleys partner Danielle Valertiz Chapman (843)312-1192/danielle.bustradedevelopment@gmail.com/ who had a friend in the banking business check Toms Accounts,the confirming financial email was sent by Danielle, but I was not to tell anyone, about it, and Valertez Chapman stated she had a lawyer check out Toms credit rating and also I havethe emails stating this financial investigation word by word and I will put it on the internet very soon. Since the 45K was wired,  I have heard lies After lies after lies from Tom and Stanley about approved funding form Meryl Lynch and also Steve Wynn cosigning a note for Mr Thomas Papa,with proof of funds from Steve Wynns Bank account, but never did funding happen, the contractTom Signed states by California Law that the funds are promised to be returned within 3 days if funding was not completed,Contract promise will be on the internet shortly. Funding was never completed, and I lost my acreage positon, Stanley Sanchez Promised in a contract to give me $150,000.00 if I would fund the deposit but later said that the $150K promise was invalid cause funding was never made, but for my troubles would gve give me $52,500 for funding at a later date just to make it right, Sanchez also hired me as an oil consultant on November 1,2011 and agreeing to pay me $1000.00 per day plus expenses for putting a development plan together for ther oil lease orally and by email stated the he was not worried for my costs and that my knowledge was worth every penny I was charging for the services, I made contracts from Drilling Companies , talked to kansas commissioners, got surveys experts in line, pump jacks, supply companies, notice of intent to drill forms, bonding information, hotshot services, dozer services, rig moving companies, geologists, and even my partner quit his job awaiting the do date,Stanley held conferences with Me and my partners stating to them I was with medalists inplicating to the investors we were hired and in place ready to go on the development. I griped Stanley out for not paying me for my work already performed as I worked the whole month of November,finally Stanley agreed to start payroll November 23, 2011 and he finally sent me a check for $150,000 for the funding deposit agreement, $7,000.00 for 7 days in November 2011 and $31,000.. for the month of December, 2011,  for consulting.Stanley refused to pay for the month of January 2012  or up to February 15, 2012. Funding never happened,The acerage was sold to Circle Star Energy Corp, in March2012  so Tom wont pay, me back the $45,000 as of today, all the checks were returned account closed and insufficient funds By Stanley Sanchez, I got nothing from Stanley Sanchez, Oh but he states in his emals that he will repay me some day but to no avail as of yet, The DA has the checks now and trying to file felony charges after investigation. Stanley was first to get on the ripoff report to state that the things I said about Thomas Papa were lies and Both Tom and Stanley have scamed me. I dont have no money from either of them, and none of them wants to pay me or contact me. Tom has told my lawyer that he sent him the money three tmes by wire,and all Toms emails were all lies. Tom will go to jail I pray to God, as  he has hurt me  tremendously and financially, and fraudlently, Stanley will go to jail for introducing me to Tom and scaming me out of all the promises that they have promised to me Danielle Valertez Chapman will go to jail for bringing false information to bare for funding. I have emails and private documents to prove all these alligations and if they say one dam thing contrary to all these alligations I will start putting all the private domuments and contracts on the internet to prove I am NOT lying. I am currently trying to put all of them in jail for a very long time the legal way and that takes time and many hours of investigating. A class action suit will be filed separate for all the OTHER people that may have associated with or had an assoctation with these three people, and were frauded out of their money to join through my fathers estate attorneys who right now have team of attorneys on the ground in California, with a private detective. Please dont listen to any rebutals,as thay are all lies, I will put it all on the internet for the world to see very soon, all documents. Justice will prevail soon
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#15 Consumer Comment

Another MTJJ victim

AUTHOR: Robert of San Ramon - (United States of America)

David, 
I had the same thing happen to me by Thomas Papa.  Can you please tell me any further steps you took to seek justice?  I am lost and need direction.  I am planning on going to the police and any Government agency that pertains to real estate and lending.  I'm sorry to hear that you had the same thing happen almost at the same time.  

Thank you,
Rob
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#16 Consumer Comment

Mr. David

AUTHOR: ww125 - (United States of America)

Have you recieved your refund back from anyone yet ? if not let us know and we can help you proceed with prosecution against Thomas Papa and MTJJ LLc.
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#17 Consumer Comment

So Sad

AUTHOR: ww125 - (United States of America)

so as i read thru what is going on here it appears that this guy Dave put up money (45K) for this guy Stan (medalist) to secure funding for his project with Tom Papa . I will probably bet that at that time Dave was Stan's best buddy considering he fronted 45k for him . Wonder why Stan didnt use his own money ?  But now it looks like Tom Papa is Stan's best buddy. Am i the only one wondering why Stan is not supporting the guy who fronted him the 45K in the first place, but is now sticking up for a man who scammed plenty ( including my group ) out of money.

Good luck getting your money back if you are dealing with Tom Papa. We have made the proper legal steps to precurring  our refund from MTJJ LLC.

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#18 REBUTTAL Owner of company

IIlegal Activities

AUTHOR: Stan - (United States of America)

To whom it may concern,

In addition to the rebuttal on this individual I (Medalist) will be sending a cease in desist as we have spoken with legal counsel as the first step to remedy this illegal activity on this broker. Further legal activities will be taken as legal counsel guides us. 

Moreover, we will be filining grievance with Ripoff Reports allowing individuals to represent themselves falsely.

As further note, this broker has suffered a great loss in his family and it has created mental instability, thus the incoherant statements that are being stated.
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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Illegal Claims

AUTHOR: Stan - (United States of America)

To whom it may concern,

The following claims are of illegal nature, the individual that is filing these claims is distorting internal information and is a broker of the selling agent that became dissatisfied of the project and is using outlandish claims to reap funds from various parties. In fact soon we will file a motion in a court of law against this illegal behavior and slandering language against parties. Again, this individual is not a employee or representative of the company he is speaking for.

In regard to Thomas Papa, he has always been very cordial and straight forward. In fact we are working out the final information for full refund of the due diligence fees that was sued to evaluate the project at hand which was not in any means his fault.

In current busines environment obtaining any loans or direct investment is a strenuous and lengthy process which of those that are in the environment are every well aware of and a process must be conducted to meet investment parameters. 

Again, this issue in regard to these statements will be brought up to attorneys for litigation review and if need be full damages will be seeked against this posting party.
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#20 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Illegal Claims

AUTHOR: Stan - (United States of America)

To whom it may concern,

The following claims are of illegal nature, the individual that is filing these claims is distorting internal information and is a broker of the selling agent that became dissatisfied of the project and is using outlandish claims to reap funds from various parties. In fact soon we will file a motion in a court of law against this illegal behavior and slandering language against parties. Again, this individual is not a employee or representative of the company he is speaking for.

In regard to Thomas Papa, he has always been very cordial and straight forward. In fact we are working out the final information for full refund of the due diligence fees that was sued to evaluate the project at hand which was not in any means his fault.

In current busines environment obtaining any loans or direct investment is a strenuous and lengthy process which of those that are in the environment are every well aware of and a process must be conducted to meet investment parameters. 

Again, this issue in regard to these statements will be brought up to attorneys for litigation review and if need be full damages will be seeked against this posting party.
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