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  • Submitted: Wed, July 11, 2012
  • Updated: Fri, December 14, 2012

  • Reported By: RR Bostons — Rhinelander Wisconsin United States of America
Tiny Tot Chihuahuas
7501 s 28th street Bellevue, Nebraska United States of America

Tiny Tot Chihuahuas Kelly Schram STOLEN DOGS Bellevue, Nebraska

*Author of original report: Court find Kelly Schram Guilty!!!!

*General Comment: got it wronge

*Consumer Comment: Kelly Schram Scam

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: SUCH BULLCRAP KAY HEYD/ONLY HURT YOURSELF

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: joshua richard heyd

*General Comment: You made it personal

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: KayLynn Heyd your A lier as well!!

*General Comment: NOT HER ADDRESS

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jackie you are such a lier

*Author of original report: Kelly Schram Address

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: DONT LIVE HERE

*Consumer Comment: ANOTHER THING JACKIE MARTIN OF RR BOSTONS

*Consumer Comment: Jackie Martin is a LIER

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: JACKIE YOU ARE A JOKE LIKE THE OTHERS

*Author of original report: I am to blame for Kelly being a thief

*Consumer Comment: Response to deposit on Brenda's puppy

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: JACKIE MARTAIN YOU ARE THE ONE AT FAULT!!

*Author of original report: PROVE it KELLY SCHRAM

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: LISA ASHLOCK JACKIE BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: In regards to me stealing deposits and reselling dogs

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: RR Bostons AKA Jackie Martain IS A CROOK!!

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I had a spayed female Boston female and her 9 month old daughter (intact) that I was looking to rehome. I was contacted by Kelly Schram from Bellevue,Nebraska who offered the perfect home for both dogs. She said she was a former Chihuahua breeder and since her 2 dogs were older now and less active, she felt it was time to get a couple small dogs with
a bit more energy. She was looking for pets that would love everyone, like to go on car rides and be good with kids as she was expecting a grandchild soon.

She sent the deposit via Wal-Mart money gram with the rest to be paid in cash at time of delivery. Arrangements were made for her to drive to my house to get them. She was driving 1250 miles round trip, another factor in me deciding she was a great person and really wanted my dogs. She signed a contract stating that she was purchasing the dogs as pets, would spay the second female immediately and would contact me for first right of refusal if she ever needed to rehome them. Everything most breeders would want from a new home.


When time came for her to drive to my home, she informed me that her truck driving husband was not able to accompany her and she would have to bring her pregnant daughter instead. She asked if she could pay me for my time and gasoline if I would meet them part way. I agreed. We met (500 miles round trip for me), she DID NOT have cash. She explained that she had to leave so early in the morning to meet me that the bank was not yet open. She had gone to the ATM but could only get out a small amount due to the daily limits imposed on her account. I honestly should have just got back in my car with my dogs and gone home but the red flags didnt jump out at me. I am usually a pretty good judge of character but my intuition failed me. I fell for her story and accepted a check for the balance due ($750). I did not even include anything extra for my time or gas as I was just so convinced that this was a great home and I was thankful I had found her.


So, Id driven 500 miles, the check ends up being written on a closed account under the name "Tiny Tot Chihuahuas" and I have no dogs. She stays in contact via phone and email for about 10 days and says she is going to money gram the balance as her check book had been stolen and she had to close the account. Excuse after excuse, no money gram and basically telling me I was an evil person for even thinking she might be stealing my dogs.
 
Eventually no contact she does not answer emails, texts or take my phone calls. My dogs have now been gone for almost 2 weeks and I decide I will just drive to Nebraska myself and get my dogs back as I realize the huge mistake Ive made and I do not want my dogs living with someone I do not trust.

I placed a message on FB looking for someone to drive by the address Id been given before I head out as I want to make sure I am not driving 1250 miles to an abandoned building.  I am answered by the Nebraska Boston Terrier Rescue. A volunteer had seen my dogs up for sale in a Craigslist ad just two days prior and Rescue had purchased them.  Had they not, I would never have known what happened to my girls.

After the fact I have learned that  this woman attempted to "purchase" at least 10 boston terriers around the same time she stole mine.  She is actively attempting to obtain more dogs at this time. 

This is definitely not a woman looking for a sweet, little pet to join her home. She is stealing dogs and reselling them!!!

I know she got my dogs through deceit did not pay for them and then sold them on Craigslist exactly 13 days after getting them. Yes, I was wrong inmy choice of picking a safe family for my dogs but that is all I am guilty of here. I failed my dogs but I am not a liar nor a thief she is. 


The woman in question is: 

Kelly Schram   AKA  Kelly Miner   AKA Sissy Miner


Emails she has used: 
hiddenacres@yahoo.com

kelly.schram@yahoo.com

The 2 known addresses she is using are:

7501 S 28th
Street
Bellevue, NE 68147


6814 S 51st
Street
Omaha, NE 68117


Phone numbers include: 
402-504-3898; 402-312-4522; 402-637-5410; 402-917-5463

Please do not sell to or purchase any dogs from these people. 

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/11/2012 10:55 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Tiny-Tot-Chihuahuas/Bellevue-Nebraska-68147/Tiny-Tot-Chihuahuas-Kelly-Schram-STOLEN-DOGS-Bellevue-Nebraska-910618. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Court find Kelly Schram Guilty!!!!

AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)

On December 4, 2012 a judgement in the amount of $867.79 was ordered against Kelly Schram  by the State of Wisconsin Circuit Court for the theft of the two dogs that she stole from me, Jackie Martin of RR Boston Terriers.  Now anyone with any doubts about my reputation can see that all of Kelly's efforts to make me look bad were just lies.  She stole my dogs and in an attempt to throw attention away from her illegal activity, made up allegations that I sold her sick dogs.  After the stolen dogs were sold by Kelly Schram on Craigslist, I found them in Nebraska.  Both dogs are and always were, completely healthy.  I have
never and will never, misrepresent any dog in my household.  I was taken advantage of by a con artist who when caught in her scam, took revenge by trying to ruin my reputation.   Warning to anyone who may have puppies for sale, please use extreme caution when selling to anyone in the Bellevue, Nebraska area.  Kelly Minor Schram uses various names and also has enlisted the help of her daughter, Bobbie Jo and son-in-law,
Josh Heyd, in this scheme.  She is involved in Chihuahuas and possibly other breeds besides Boston Terriers.  Protect your babies and your reputation, do not get involved with this woman!
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#2 General Comment

got it wronge

AUTHOR: sybud - (United States of America)

OWowjust heard abt dis site. did not no that skank mama was your babymam,did the same on u live with when u worked at the bakery and hookedup with andy? so ur mom has it wronge if u liven with the biggest theifs and scams in south o ur part of it! u can nt be so dis is what u meant by gettin some money soon? No wonder ur mom is pissed and u let skanksmama say all that trash on her wow that is so wronge. everybody nos if u want something stolen u go to the scamin schrams wheres ur balls dude skanksmama carry em in her bag? u messed up big time! 
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Kelly Schram Scam

AUTHOR: Daphne369 - (United States of America)

First of all, it makes me physically sick to my stomach to know that a problem that I usually see in a documentary on television, is actually going on right here in Omaha, NE. or even Nebraska.

All of the comments I have read on this site regarding the issue(s) of dog(s) transactions, actually reveals only 1 truth about all of the people involved...

That all or most of you need to go back to school to learn how to spell!

The disgusting fact that it is so obvious that Kelly can't even spell the simplest words, makes me cringe that this person has reproduced another human being. She can't even take care of dogs so one can only imagine how ignorant she is when it comes to an actual real human being. I only have sympathy for any child she will give birth to.

I sympathize with all of the victims for Schram's scamming of their beloved pets. Sounds like Schram has too much time on her butt...wouldn't hurt her to get up off of it and do something actually positive!



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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

SUCH BULLCRAP KAY HEYD/ONLY HURT YOURSELF

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

Well Kay now youve really got yourself in a world of trouble with all your lies and harrassement!! My daughter is haveing a restraining order put on you to stay away from her and her daughter, if you come anywhere near them you will go straight to jail.Your a SYCO! My daughter never has done a dam thing to you, when you bad mouthed her awhile back JEALOUS that your son has her in his life you harrassed my daughter and she called you a FAT COW that you ARE weighing 500 pounds of pure BULL! So if thats what your talking about that you say you forgave her for well you started all that crap and she only defended herself that we have taught her to do, your such a coward to have to put all this on a website rather than say it to our face!! shows how much of a coward you and your entire family are. You say we live on welfare, hows that?? I dont get NO WELFARE, and never have, and frankley if i would, its none of your dam business! Its your family thats on welfare, Jessica and matt are on WIC, am i wrong? No im not, and i could careless, thats welfare to help familys that need help feeding their kids, i mind my own business, so what we do with our life is none of your dam business.Im only answering what bullcrap you put on website which is all ive ever done, your into my buiness on a dog scam you put yourself in here, not i, you brought yourself into this , but your son is so pissed off at you and ashamed to even claim you as his mother he himself wrote his own response on here, he's not to happy. Your house is the one that has a garage full of STOLEN motorcycles and 4 wheelers and etc etc etc that you let your kids put there, you have a special building just for the stolen things, some parent you are letting your kids steal for a living, my kids DONT steal and NEVER have, our garage has NO stolen things like yours does, my sons motorcycles all have titles that are in the garage yours DO NOT, and i got that info from a very very good source. You talk like you know everything and you dont, your only burying yourself further in a hole that you will NEVER get yourself out of. I have been taking care of your son for a very long time now putting a roof over his head and feeding him because you wouldnt! You will never change, you will always be that nasty bi-polar person ive been told about all this time. I dont know you and i DONT want to know you, your nothing but a TWO FACED LIER!! But thats okay cause you hurt yourself by not ever haveing no contact with your son or grand daughter ever in this life time. Josh only gave you permission on a piece of paper before he went to north carolina 2 years ago to handle a court case that a kid ripped him off of money on a car and NOTHING MORE! You are not his power of attorney you tell people you syco,And you only wanted him to give you permission so you could get the money and keep it the money hungry person you are and always will be. You have had absoultly NO and i repeat NO permission to open any of Joshs mail EVER! And Josh said you only gave him 1 letter not 3 that you say you've gotten of his and apparentley kept! Thats a federal offense what you,ve done. Josh is going to the courts on tuesday to see to it that your in trouble for what you've done. It was Josh that had his money stolen again by the crook in Mississippi over a dog and i was right here when i heard him explaining it to his brother matt which he shouldnt have to explain anything, its his business and you people need to stay out of his business. You have hurt your son and my daughter for the last time. There wont be a next time. It will be over my dead body that you would ever get that chance again, now IM INVOLVED to make sure you stay completely away from this entire family includeing Josh that you thru to the curb along time ago. It really makes me laugh how you say you GIVE Josh any money what so ever, such a joke, if you give him $1.00 you've always made him pay it back, your a pathetic parent, you will whine and whine over a lousey $1.00 your son borrowed from you until you get it back. He has always made sure your paid back with what few dollars you've ever loaned him. When ive got money believe me i give it to Bobbie and Josh when they need it, not sure how many times ive helped Josh out but i do when i can because he always offers to help me out if i need it, thats what family does Kay, help each other out, unlike you, you would know nothing about any of this, your just always out to make $1.00 off your kids. You will NEVER be the parent iam and you could never even compare to me, im THERE FOR MY KIDS and love them more than life itself and i will always be there to help them if i can, i would give my kids my last breath, bet you could NEVER SAY THAT, you dont know the meaning of love and never will. The only good person in your family that ive heard good things about is Joshs dad, sounds like he can be a great person, not sure how he ended up with you the rotten person you are, but ive been told you'd be NOTHING without him. Its really sad that you constantley are trying to tell joshs dad lies and turn him against all of us includeing Josh, but thats okay people like you dont go to heaven Kay, you go where its HOT!! Straight DOWN below. You say so much crap about the baby shower you were so happy to put on, you lied to me when i wanted to give my daughter one, you told me NOT to that it was bad luck for a grand parent to do, well aparentley thats a lie since you say you were putting one on that you never did do, you lied and told me and Josh that Emily and Jessica was doing it, and i never asked you to do anything for us, frankley we dont need your help, we have everything the kids need, i had already bought everything that Bobbie didnt, when she sold her 06 jeep liberty she took $1500.00 and bought a bunch of baby stuff she needed, and than bought a cheaper car, the 04 shes driving. So definitley didnt need your help, and all that stuff you say you bought, Well, where is it??? Not here!! Its at your house since you wouldnt ever give it to them, so frankley you bought NOTHING, doesnt count when you kept it and never give it to the kids. So QUIT with the lies Kay! My mom and side of the family brought all their presents in and gave to Bobbie and Josh since you couldnt make up your mind about the baby shower, first its last week than sept 23rd than sept 15th than next thing i hear is of forget it your not doing it so thats why my mom and dad and brothers and their familys brought it all in and took up to hospital for Josh and Bobbie. So glad i never gave you the baby pics you wanted of Bobbie or i would of NEVER seen them pictures again, my gut told me NO dont do it and keep them because sooner or later you were going to show the nasty person you are, you do this about once a month or so, be their best friend than turn on them again being very hateful. Well i think ive answerd your bullcrap on here, im like Josh, if someone wants the truth, just call me or him and Bobbie, thats one way to get the truth rather than listen to your lies over and over. Just with you being on this rip off report period in my business shows people your a syco that stalks my family, but that will stop with the restraining order the kids are putting on you tuesday, they already talked to security at hospital the day you called up there being a syco about the baby, you were put on their special list they have for the crazy people. You wont beable to be at the wedding or anything unless you want arrested due to the restraining order, We've already made the report just have to fianalize it tuesday i,ll make sure of it you can count on that. You did this to yourself. My daughter and Josh bit their tounge trying to keep piece with you for rest of joshs family sake but you blew it all out of proportion and caused problems with their pride and joy Kali, cant believe you done what you done at the hospital but thats okay cause like i said, now your on the hospitals crazy list and cant go anywhere around your grand daughter which makes me the happiest person in the world, now i can rest at night knowing your not in the picture anymore, i was so sick of your abuse to my daughter and not knowing what you were doing next the two faced person you are. If you had a problem with any of us you should of had the guts to say it to our face rather than behind our backs or on a website, but your a coward and this shows everyone your a coward, its just sad that your son has been treated so bad by you and his siblings when its the happiest time of his life with his  new baby girl, ive never seen him more happy than i did in the delivery room when she was born. But weve been told thats what your best at, bringing Josh down no matter what he's done in life, in your eyes it was never good enough. Really really sad. You wouldnt hear my kids talk like that, im their best friend not just their mom. Are you done bad mouthing all of us or you gonna keep going? So far its helped our attorney out with the restraining order he's filing on you. "Kelly S."   
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joshua richard heyd

AUTHOR: joshua richard heyd - (United States of America)

this is joshua richard heyd birth date 4 20 90 i love bobbie jo schram and have a beautiful daughter named kali jo schram and were going to raise her toghether and the power of attorney i signed was for a car i got riped off for that i sold b4 i went to north carolina with my brother i joshua richard heyd did not know it was for anything but the car  problems that i had and will be going to the court house tuesday sept 4th to make it so there is not a power of attorney

i dont want someone opening my mail and trying to start problems with my fiance bobbie jo schram i love her and am going to spend my hole life with her andraise are beautiful daughter kali jo schram and she is my kid my names on the birth certificate and will be heyd when me and bobbie get married im with here because i love here more then anything in the world and want to spend my hole life with bobbie jo schram and kali jo schram and i couldnt do it without bobbie jo schram

she helps me so much and seeing her hold are daughter kali jo just makes me so happy and anyone who has a prob with it can reach me on my cell @402-981-9840 i also work up at cornhusker auto wash ... and i do not want my name on here what so ever by anyone its my life and i will do as i please ..so i say agian stay out of my buisiness i love bobbie jo schram and kali jo schram more then anything and am never going to leave her i sad how my own family doesnt want any thing to do with my daughter or my fiance bobbie jo schram

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#6 General Comment

You made it personal

AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)

I was under the impression that this site was bout dog fraud:  But you have cosen to make a personal attack on me, which will only show the world exactly what kin of person all these dog breeders and now my family have to deal with. First I am not a lier! Any one and everyone who knows me know I DONT LIE, nor do I condon it either. And Josh knows this to.  2nd) Opening Joshs mail (I have a power of attorney that Josh signed over to me in NC with no experation dte.

It list to numberous things to mention but in tHAT LIST IS HANDLING MATTERS PERSONAL AND LEAGAL BY PHONE, MAIL, OR IN PERSON.  Wiah I would of opened the first 2 letters I would of catched on sooner.  He trusted me enough to sign that  in front of 3 witnesses.  3rd) We love Josh and always will and wish him only the best with the raising of HIS daughter. There alot of reasons a father should want a child to have his last name.

The most important so it'l know the dad loved her enough, the second is so he has a more legal right to that child. (which you already knew, thats why you advised him otherwise, not really because Kali would loose her medicade, because Josh only has a min wage job at the care wash, and dont even make enough to even pay child support, so they would still get it regardless) He cant claim her on taxes you also knew that too. But again you know all this dont you? But if  he didnt want her to have his name that up to him.

If god forbid he does marry BJ they will have a different name then Kali would still be a Schram, and at this point if the do get married maybe he should take the schram name, not unheard of and at least theyd all have the same name.  Marrying the mom dont change the babys name something else you and BJ said.  4   I dont know everything but I do know alot, and I do know and believe that Josh will be an awsome dad but tha's not because he learned it from you, it was the HEYD family that showed him to have a huge caring heart and always find the good in people (he sees something in Bj that we dont) He will continue to do everything for Kali that he possibly can as he should.

 We just wanted him to have more of a legal right. Kali will have a great life with JOSH TAKING CARE OF HER. i HAVE NO DOUBTS OF THAT AT ALL! %  EXPOSING HER TO SCAMS AND SMOKING WILL NOT.  Thats why I  wanted Josh and BJ to get housing, but BJ is affraid to be a grown up on her own. I was the bigger person and forgave BJ for the last   rant not because I wanted to be her best friend in no means! It was for Josh, and what he wanted. He wanted to be able to come see his family even if he couldnt come alone we excepted that wed have to see BJ too. 

I raised 4 great children to be honest, and work hard for what they wanted in life even if they had to have 2 jods. Not live on ADC, food stamps, and welfair, so yes Im very proud of all them!  5)  I didnt teach them to scam. steel, (trailers car hoods, rims and such, and sell it to relatives and such (sound familar?)  O  and yes that reminds me or how Josh said when he eats or takes snacks out of the microwave he gets dirty looks because hes eating your FREE FOOD. 6  Im not bi-polar  just because some one keeps quiet about alot of sh*t and then blows up when enough is enough.

Hint (ranting on about everyone else does show signs of mental issues, you may want to get that checked out) But Josh did come to me when he needed gas money to get to the hospital to  see Kali and get to work, because no one that he lived with would.I would love to sit down with Josh but instead I get to read from his two mouth pcs you and BJ. Guess so he dont rock the boat for Kalis sake, and I totaly understand.6) I never threaten anyone not Bj not Josh or Kali and certainly not you either. I saved my text too. and my out texts stopped long before BJ did that nite hers.

If Id never forgave BJ back then wed be in a better place and this would of all be avoided. 7) If I we never see Kali ever again that will be sad but you cant miss something you never had....I got to hold Kali one time and see the passion and joy on Joshs face when he held her and that you cant take away.  If thats the case then thats fine if that the decsion that is made be whoever is making Joshs decsions these days. I wont like it but Ill live with it.  8) On the very bright side no dealing with you!  which is sad in its own way I almost believed you about the dog scamming, but then I read the letter you wrote in Joshs name, no way in hell did he write those letters.

he dont talk or write like that and further more never lived in Wymore or worked  AT Greater America, dont have a retired dad that lost a boston dog and never even had that breed. I can see how someone could be taken in but that o and my fav  (we would of went back to the orginal breeder but he died of cancer, so believable!  You missed your calling start writing short stories, you'll make a killing. 9) just goes to show if you paint a pretty picture you can pull someone in. Ok enough of that sinking to yor level. 

10) BJ had no problem taking the 167.00 jcp  and BWBF clothes I got her because she was always wearing the same old hot pants "and I thought it would be something I could do for her to show I was realy trying) or the bags of slothes I bought for Kali and the sack from my friend too. Dont see her saying I dont want them or need them because Kay got them and return them  is she???? No way. Now that I sit here and see the few family address  no friends you gave me to send out invitations to the baby shower my daughter in law, daughter and I was planning (not one rvp and said they were coming,

hum all the ones I invited did, but she didnt need or want anything else from me,(her words not min) so I returned with the receipts to almost 500. worth of stuff, my daughter had close to 200. if not more(o forgot she gdid give the nice diaper bag to her at the hospital)  Kali would of had all that she needed and more.  That would of just pissed you off to know the Heyd family provided all that hu? Finally I pray Kali stays healthy and happy and grows to a strong child, loved and blessed by God and her dad Josh as long as hes by her side teaching her right from wrong, and to be honest and have a big heart she have a good life and many "friends".  Josh I love you we all do, if you need us you know where we are we love you inconditionaly forever. written by Kay Heyd
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

KayLynn Heyd your A lier as well!!

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

Well Kay apparentley you are a lier as well! Is that why Josh moved in with us some time ago????? I think i know more than what you know about your own son. And i know why your now are talking crap on us and its because your pissed off that my daughter gave her newborn baby the Schram Name and not the Heyd name that you've been fighting with her and Josh tonight about for hours and they have ALL the text messages to prove it,you have turned your own son against you for what you've said to him tonight, he has a newborn baby brought into this world last week and all you can do is cause problems for him and my daughter rather than be happy for them, but mabe before you start alot of crap and say alot of crap you should think about what your saying and know the facts , when my daughter is not married yet and only engaged she HAD to give the baby the Schram name since she is still a Schram, Not sure what your problem is or why you would care when their getting married anyway when her and the baby both would  than have Joshs name. You need to mind your own business and quit being two faced and phoney as hell. Ive told all these crooked breeders my address that ive delt with that has screwed my family out of money, why would i lie??? Only person that had your address is Judy Thomas in Mississippi that stole your sons $500, Why dont you ask him for the dam reciept??? You think you know everything and you DONT! I hold a STATE breeders license for past 10 years , i have NO REASON to give an off the wall address!! If i were going to use a different address i would use my parents or one of 4 brothers address's, certainley DONT need yours!! All my reciepts that PROVE all the money ive sent these pathetic crooks ALSO PROVE i used MY ADDRESS HERE WHERE I LIVE!!! So you all need to QUIT with the bullcrap and tell the FACTS!! You all are a bunch of drama queens that have nothing better to do than sit around on your lazy butts and talk crap on innocent people. Im sick of you all, ive got more important things going on in my life and no time for the bullcrap you people are putting on websites, i have a good reputation and proud of it, just a FYI Kay Lynn Heyd, you better quit harrasseing my daughter and your son or you will find yourself in jail where you belong, my daughter has been thru enough with her surgery last week and the baby here now and im not going to stand by and let you harass them both to no end, you better stay clear away from my daughter and her baby since you want to cause them harm , apparentley your BI-POLAR, 1 day your Bobbie and Joshs best friend and need to be right by their side and next day your a syco that needs HELP with mental issues, do me a favor, drop off the face of the earth along with these Boston breeders of puppymills and it would be a favor to the entire world. Dont think tommarro or next week or anytime you will come around my daughter or her baby after what you pulled tonight harrasseing them so bad, you do this quite often and than just do a complete circle and act like nothing ever happened and want to be their best friend, well, not this time, you've ruined it for GOOD THIS TIME. Josh said if you would keep your nose out of his business and quit being nosey by opening his mail none of this would happen , you know that is illegal to open other peoples mail, dont matter if its your son or not, your names isnt JOSH HEYD! And just so all you people know , Josh has NOTHING to do with his MOTHER or will he, he has all the crap he can deal with from her after tonight what shes pulled by harrassing her own son and his soon to be wife ( my daughter ), ask him yourself!!!!!! But if you want to talk to Josh he lives with us not his real mother any longer that teats him like a piece of crap and two faced about everything, just so facts are straight!   
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NOT HER ADDRESS

AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)

I COMMENTED WHEN I FOUND OUT ABOUT MY ADDRESS BEING USED IN THESE DOG SCAMS.  THEN GOT MANY EMAILS FROM  ALL OF YOU THE 6814 SO 51 STREET OMAHA ISNT KELLY SCHRAMS ADDRESS AND THOSE OF YOU WHO GOT THOSE WELL WRITTEN LETTERS SAYING THAT THEY WERE MY SON JOSH HEYD WAS NOT WRITTEN BY HIM! HE DOESNT WRITE OR TALK LIKE THAT! ALL LIES ABOUT BUYING A DOG FOR A RETIRED FATHER THAT LOST HIS BOSTON, WEVE NEVER HAD ONE AND DONT WANT ONE!  SHE IS USING HIS NAME AND TRICKING YOU GOOD PEOPLE, THATS WHAT THEY DO.  SO JUST DELETE ANY FUTURE CONTACT  WITH JOSH HEYD OR MY ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE.
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Jackie you are such a lier

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

Jackie you are such a lier its pathetic! The ONLY time the Heyds address was ever used was 1 time and i will sayit again 1 time and used only by Josh which is entitled to use his own address. He only bought 1 dog and was screw d out of his $500.00 by Judy Thomas of Thomas Bostons in Mississippi. Your just pissed off and looking for more ways to cover your lies because ive hurt you even more by sending in the reciepts to the judge and to states attorney general proveing you were paid and that your dogs were sick, really made you look like a complete FOOL. I bet your pissed off that you found out that your so called friend Gina Edwards of Oklahoma that screw d me out of $200.00 and NEVER made it right with me talked all kinds of crap on you and your parvo sick dogs on how you had alot of them die, Gina Edwards sent the attorney general in Oklahoma all the evidence to how she had a conversation with another lady on how sick your dogs are. You are all 2 faced to one another. The attorney general in Oklahoma sent me copies of everything Gina gave them. Gina also told them she was giving my money back if her name wasnt mention d anymore but another lie like always from her as she has never sent my money back , she even emailed me a month ago saying she was sending my money back but it is all lies, she only said that to let the law enforcement think she was taking care of it. Some day you crooks will learn to quit with the lies . They only make you look like a fool that you are. Signed : Kelly Schram
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#10 Author of original report

Kelly Schram Address

AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)

If you are Mrs Heyd and not Kelly who is writing this rebuttal, please contact me.  I have not said that Kelly Schram lives at the property on 51st Street.  I know she lives on 28th Street, however, she is using YOUR address when contacting people in an attempt to acquire dogs.  If you would like more information on how your family has been brought into this, feel free to contact me at (((REDACTED)))



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#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company

DONT LIVE HERE

AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)

KELLY SCHRAM DOESNT LIVE AT 6814 SO 51 STREET OMAHA !  I DO AND HAVE FOR 49 YRS SO GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!!
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#12 Consumer Comment

ANOTHER THING JACKIE MARTIN OF RR BOSTONS

AUTHOR: Miner Trucking - (United States of America)

Forgot to mention Jackie Martin, When i was into my daughters house earlier this evening reading everything you have said on this website and other websites and so fourth when she showed her father and i, we were shocked with the very disturbing threatening messages on my daughters home phone and on my grand daughters cell phone, you must want to go to jail, thats where people like you end up when threatening a family and slandering and harrasseing people. You are a very stupid lady and must not know how the law works. I have said what i have to say, as i nor my husband have the time to sit at a computer and play your games but you brought Kelly,s entire family into this now by saying we disowned her and you have harrassed us as well and we had never heard of you until you harrassed some of us on facebook and now we read everything on the websites when we were at Kelly,s house earlier this evening, shes a very smart girl for reporting you to sheriff. MaryAnn  
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#13 Consumer Comment

Jackie Martin is a LIER

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

To whom it may concern, Jackie Martin of this RR BOSTONS in Rhinelander, WI. Is nothing but a LIER, She says Kelly,s family disowns her, well let me tell you something lady before you put words in someones mouth that you do not even know, Kelly is the most honest person i know and very good hearted and loves her dogs and all animals she has and she tends to let people like you take advantage of her because she trust to many people and should,nt with all the scams and dishonest people out there, iam her mother and i love my daughter more than life itself just like all my children and i would NEVER disown my daughter, we are a very close family and are there for each other 100% so watch what you say about myself or anyone else in Kelly,s family when you have no idea who we are and never once met us, you have harrassed all of us in this entire family over facebook and other contact over this situation and that is why i blocked you and my son and other family members blocked you and we have ALL reported you to facebook and law enforcement, so don,t put words in our mouth and make it sound like we do not get a long with our daugher that is a lie and you know it! Anything and EVERYTHING that lieing brother- in- law on her husbands side of family has told you is a dam lie, he has never got a long with with even his own brother that Kelly is married to because of his lies and trouble he starts , he is a theif and done nothing but cause everyone , even his own family problems. I hope ive made myself CLEAR in this matter , no one Jackie Martin will put words in my mouth saying i disown my daughter when we love her very much and stand by her from all you crooked Boston breeders out there or anything else for that matter. Leave our name out of anything and everything before you get more charges filed against you on your lies and slander when we have never spoke to youor had anything to do with you or your friends in our lives. MaryAnn ( Kelly,s Mother ). 
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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

JACKIE YOU ARE A JOKE LIKE THE OTHERS

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

For one HOLLY i know you backed out on BLUE SKY from Brenda Dillon but apparentley you arent aware that after Brenda recieved my $400 on the dog than she accepted more deposits on the dog, you people think im stupid, well joke is on you ive got friends all over the states! I know that even Kim that has him now is only a co-owner, Brenda still owns half the dog, all you people do is denye denye denye, iam the VICTIM here, Jackie you have tryed to turn EVERYTHING AROUND to the other breeders buts its okay because you will get whats coming to you, you have lied so much that you are actually starting to believe your lies, who,s the crazy person??? JACKIE OF RR BOSTONS!!! Lets get this straight, you said i said i had the dogs on july 2nd?? i never even talked to you anymore after the dogs were gone because of your threat on my family on my home phone, it was JUNE 30th not the 29th that i even met jennifer, and just for your info, I DID NOT GET $500 for the dogs, apparentley Jennifer is a lier as well, YOU all are nothing but dam liers! YOU ALL STOLE MY $1400 AND MY SON IN LAWS $500 so get this SHIT STRAIGHT, Im not going to argue with you no more, facts are facts , law is involved lets see what happens to you crooks at the end, you have the money AND THE DOGS but yet you say i steal dogs!!!! mabe they are invisable!!

 And for you saying my family disown me Jackie, hmmm thats funny im VERY CLOSE with my family and always have been, i will make sure my parents and brothers etc see all this to also include that in on their case against you for slander and harrassment, IT WAS MY PARENTS THAT BLOCKED YOUR A** ON FACEBOOK FOR HARRASSMENT and turned you into facebook, it was MY BROTHER THAT ALSO BLOCKED YOUR A** FOR HARRASSMENT and the others dont have facebook so get your sh*t STRAIGHT, It was ONLY 1 DUMBA** CROOK brother in law you talked to that thank god im NO BLOOD RELATION to the a**hole that you talked to that bad mouthed me and guess what??? HE is the THEIF of the family, he stole the horse from SHADY LANE RANCH that is a very good friend of mine where I WORKED FOR YEARS MISS KNOW IT ALL, my brother in law took a horse from him , wrote a check, stopped payment on check same day took the horse than sold him immediatley, he stole his brothers pride and joy 69 camero my husband had for many years, he has stole from so many trucking companys lieing he was hurt with same injury from 30 years ago and done insurance scams on them i cant keep up with him there has been so many, he lives with his sugar mama that supports him because he dont know how to work a day in his life except a day or two here and there to say he was hurt on the job, there, now MISS KNOW IT ALL JACKIE WHO,S THE LIER??? Ya you found the 1 person that is NOT blood related but calls himself family that will bad mouth myself and my family, my parents hate his guts as he has caused numerous problems for them over the years, he causes problems to everyone!

 AND WE DID LIVE ON A FARM FOR 17 years where my kids were raised, JEALOUS??? YOU MUST Be, i had exotic animals includeing my canadian black bear, ive had state license to own every one of them so dont tell me im not legal lady, you dont know me and you certainley dont know my family but yet you have harrassed us over and over with your lies, hate speeches, threats etc, you have Josh,s address out in public and he lives there, NOT I dumba**, you dont know him what so ever, only reason you know his name is because judy gloating she stole his $500 on a $700 dog within 2 days! My horses are my horses, its none of your business where i keep my livestock, my parents do live on a farm miss know it all, i have lived on a farm my ENTIRE LIFE even before i had children except 2 years and im 46 years old, ive got more experiance with animals than you ever will, i trained horses my whole life until i about died in 2002 haveing a surgery.

 I have all kinds of proof to back myself up,like i said everything was faxed or mailed to all the sheriffs dept.s i have no clue how to put things on here without printer, scanner and all that but jackie i wouldnt put some of it on here anyway to put other peoples address,s out to public unlike you have im a better person than that i only said your address, all the breeders that have kept my money and josh,s money admit they have it so i dont need to put that on here but the sheriffs dept has told us to not continue with this non sense, i have a good reputation with all the people that i have sold an animal to and all the churches ive put petting zoo,s on for over and over and was a 4-h leader for years with the horse events. At least ALL my animals are vacinated and have all their shots Jackie, you straight up lied about your dogs, Dia had NO SHOTS and Rabies expired and you claimed it was because she was pregnant AGAIN, she was bred every 6 monthes, being a c-section every time, WHO SERIOUSLEY does that?? Only you and probley your friends just to make a dollar, breed back to back putting the dog thru so much with c-sections, i would NEVER DO THAT IN MY LIFE!

You need help, you are a mentally sick person that has twisted so much around and harrasseing my family at no end, im done with you im done with your crooked friends , im letting the law handle it, i should of listen to them and never even got on here but i wanted people to know the truth, frankley i dont care what you boston breeders believe as your all crooks apparentley, what has happened has happened and what is done is done, i have my true friends and family that support me 100% ( except the 1 crooked brother inlaw that has a big mouth that loves to start trouble because he,s jealous of his own brothers life we have together ), ive been with my husband 30 years and so glad he disowns his brother that is so pathetic, he belongs in your catagory. (CRAZY). I didnt understand why you bad mouthed craigslist so bad either Jackie but yet you are SOOOOO HAPPY where they went and love the people, i dont think you know what you want in life or what to think you are just running your mouth so hard trying to keep your friends on your side when it was you that put them out here to the public saying i stole their dogs but yet they still have their dogs and all our money, you dont deserve to have any friends the way you accuse innocent people , you are the one that made a verbal agreement with me and did not stick with it and broke the agreement, not i, you have made up so many lieds and stories i cant keep up with them all, you seriousley should seek help for your mental issues.
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#15 Author of original report

I am to blame for Kelly being a thief

AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)

Kelly I asked you for proof of the things you are accusing me of, not some long ranting letter that proves nothing.  There is a place on these rebuttals where you can insert photos and copies of documents, please do so.  I would love to see anything you have where I have spread lies about you or your family members, refused to take back my dogs, or that you PAID for the 2 dogs you acquired from me.  All it would take is a minute of your time to post and this could be settled.  Id sure want to post it if I had it!!!!  Dont you want the world to believe you? 

I have never denied that you sent a deposit, go back and refresh your memory by reading my initial statement.  I said you wrote a check on a closed account for the balance due. You did not have Dia paid in full; the contract states that you sent a $100 deposit on Dia and a $200 deposit for Infinity. You cant just say that you have decided to apply the $300 towards Dia and therefore you only stole Infinity!!!   You were to pay the balance due of $750 and you never have.  I have the phony check you gave me to prove it. I am the one who tried to work with you I even offered to accept $700 so
you didnt have to come up with the extra $45 money gram fee.  You stopped communicating with me.  Never once did you offer to return those dogs to me.  And had I figured out what was really going on with you before you sold my dogs, I would have been on your doorstep demanding my dogs back!  Not because of the money, but because I placed them in the hands of a completely devious woman.  There are far more important things in life than money.  To me, not having to worry about my dogs because they have been placed in wonderful homes is a number one priority.  I have given dogs to people for free who would love them and take care of them.  Had you told me you couldnt afford them I probably would have given them to you without charge also as I truly believed all the lies about you being this wonderful, loving home.  Instead, you steal the dogs and based on what you have done since, shown yourself to not be fit to own dogs period!  What kind of person dumps them on Craigslist 13 days of acquiring them?  Who pretends to still have them on July 2 when she sold them on June 29th?.

Yes, I asked you for A photo of my dogs, what responsible breeder would not??  All your lies and excuses were beginning to make me extremely nervous and worried about my dogs.  I had the feeling you had sold them or had done something horrible to them and I was right.  A good, kind, loving home would have no objections to sending a photo of their new dogs.  As a matter of fact I get them all the time from people who have gotten dogs from me in the past and I dont even have to ask for them!!!  I am so sorry you consider it harassment.  

You have never once tried to be reasonable with me Kelly.  You never attempted to make good on the money you owe me and you certainly did not offer to give me the dogs back.  Remember what you did instead???  You tried to disappear.  You cut off all communication, sold my dogs and thought Id never know what happened to you or them.  But you didnt succeed.  I found you and now you have been caught in your own web of lies.  You are angry and trying to place a lot of blame on me yet you are the one who is in the wrong.  You have no right to sell dogs that you do not own.  You pay for them first, then you can sell them; other wise it is known as THEFT and the SALE OF STOLEN GOODS.  You should know this if you have been talking to lawyers, law enforcement and Attorney Generals!

Did I take to the internet and inform other breeders that you are stealing dogs and trying to acquire multiple dogs all at once YUP.  Id certainly hope someone would warn me rather than sit back, keep their mouth shut and let other people become your victims.  I happen to care about other people.  More breeders need to stand up to those who try to get dogs using false stories. You told me a complete pack of lies.  Reputable breeders dont just sell to any person who comes along with the money. They try to ferret out the good homes to ensure that the lives they brought into this world are well taken care of once they leave their homes.  If more people would expose scam artists such as you, all this drama could be eliminated.  As I told you via email, I have learned a valuable lesson as a result of this and believe me, the next time I have puppies for sale potential families will have to jump though hoops to get one of my dogs. I will never make the mistake again of placing one of my beloved dogs in the wrong hands.

So, taking these types of issues public is exactly what more people need to do.  If I would have heard your name before I was conned into letting you steal my dogs you can be sure I certainly would not have let you take them. You say you are the adult and are handling it through the proper authorizes instead of making it public.  You werent handling anything like an adult, the only reason you didnt make this public is because YOU DONT WANT THIS IN PUBLIC.  I dont know too many people who are proud to be called thieves.  I can just imagine now what youd write to people had you decided to take this public yourself.  WARNING, I STEAL DOGS AND THEN PEOPLE GET MAD AT ME They have the nerve to ask for payment and when I dont pay, they tell other people that I am a thief.  Oh! the injustice of it all. 

Poor, poor Kelly, I have so taken advantage of you.  You have done nothing wrong and I am just making up all these stories about you and finding people from all over the US that you just happened to try to do the same thing to.  What a complete miracle that you contacted all of us you accuse of being in the Dog crime ring when there are hundreds of boston terrier breeders you could have targeted.  You must just have the worst luck in the world.  (That is sarcasm in case you dont know).

I honestly have no idea on what happened with some of the transactions with the other breeders you tried to scam as most of the instances were before my involvement with you - but I do know what happened between us.  You paid a deposit on 2 dogs, got them in your possession and did not finish paying for them plain and simple.  That is THEFT.  The fact that you then decided to sell them does not erase the fact that you STOLE them in the first place.

As to being a 2 year old and not handling this through law enforcement as you suggest, I am going that route also.  It will be quite interesting to see who ends up on the right side of the law when this is all said and done.  I will be sure to make those results public also.

As to my having sold you SICK DOGS.  Dia is not SICK as you claim.  The vet discovered she has a grade 3 luxating patella and MIGHT require surgery at some point in her life.  The vet has indicated she is showing absolutely no signs or symptoms and at this point it is a non issue; she DOES NOT need surgery now and may NEVER.  The fact that Dia had a luxating patella was discovered by Jennifers vet after she purchased them, NOT YOURS, so there is no way that you knew about it prior to dumping my dogs on Craigslist.  You sold them quickly in order to make a buck and get rid of them before I caught you.  I was putting pressure on you and you panicked and dumped them.  You were certainly not the loving home I thought I was placing my pets in! 

The story you gave Jennifer certainly differs from the one you are claiming now. You told Jennifer the dogs belonged to your daughter whose deal on a house fell through.  You said Bobbie Jo could not keep the dogs because her apartment would not allow her to have them. You told Jennifer nothing about Dia needing an expensive, immediate surgery.  Isnt that misrepresenting the dog?  Shouldnt you have told her that before you sold the dogs to her?  You said you found someone who could pay for the surgery funny, Jennifer had no idea until after she took the dog to her own vet that Dia might need surgery in the future.  Why did you not disclose this information to Jennifer if you knew? 
   
And what about Infinity? Why did you dump her????  Was she SICK also?  What did she suffer from?  Ive heard nothing about your reason for selling her on Craigslist. She had no issues at all when she was vet checked, not even a potential,10 year from now problem.  So, why didnt you keep her?  You wanted her so badly but in 13 days you sold her?  You sent glowing reports of how well the dogs were doing and how everyone loved them so much.  So, why did you sell Infinity???

You know we had no such agreement for you to take my dogs and pay me weeks later.  I might have been fooled by you but I am not crazy. No one would agree to that.  Need I remind you that you were to bring me CASH.  Do you not remember telling me after I drove to meet you that you hadnt wanted to tell me about not having cash before I left as you were afraid Id back out???  You convinced me to accept the check and I was stupid enough to TRUST YOU. You said the check was good and when it wasnt, you promise to send the money day after day but never did.  This
was no accident, this was a carefully plotted scheme to screw me over and you succeeded. 

Is it my fault other breeders have had the same type of thing happening with you?  Go ahead and blame me if it makes you feel better.  I am thrilled that you didnt get your hands on their dogs.  With Lisa I know for a fact you were supposed to meet her THE VERY DAY BEFORE YOU MET ME. 
I am 100% convinced you were going to make her drive 3 hours and then try to hand her a phony check as well.  Fortunately, She was smart enough to figure you out.

With the others, werent you supposed to PAY for the puppies you were attempting to acquire BEFORE YOU TOOK DELIVERY OF THEM?  Oh, thats right, you were sending out that legitimate deposit again like you did with me but then you were going to attempt to get those dogs without paying them off either.  Just so you know, if you send a non-refundable deposit and then do not hold up your end of the agreement to pay for the puppies, you dont get the puppy and you lose your deposit.  It is your own fault for sending out deposits on 10 different dogs within a months time and then not being able to pay for them; not mine.  You had $500 from the sale of my dogs, what did you do with that money?  You certainly didnt send it to me.  Perhaps you should have paid it to one of those other breeders you owed money to?

And where were you going to keep all these dogs?  You live in a little two bedroom house in an area that does not allow dozens of dogs on your property.  That means you are either out of compliance with your local laws or you are storing the dogs somewhere else, perhaps on the farm that you show on your website?  You put up all these photos of dogs and horses and buildings on your website to make you look like this responsible, caring, wealthy woman but in reality you dont even own the house you currently live in. Yes, I talked to your family.  I learned how you have stolen from hundreds of people and how you are currently taking advantage of a kind old man.  Ive learned that you've never worked a day in your life and live off disability payments and what you can steal.  I know that the farm does not belong to you and that you twist your words to make people see you in a flattering light when reality is so very ugly for you.  Ive heard how your own family had to disown you because you stole from them and so many of their friends.  I was encouraged by your own flesh and blood to do whatever I could to throw you in jail how does that make you feel?  The people that are supposed to have your back, support you and defend you, your own family Kelly, even they have called you out to be a liar and a thief. 

Your lies are going to get the best of you.  I am not going to let this go until you admit that you stole my dogs and have made up a huge set of lies about me.  You can either do that here, or in court.  I do not appreciate your efforts to ruin my good name and I will fight you to clear my reputation. Go ahead and check me out.  Call everyone who has ever gotten a dog from me, my family members, other breeders, anyone you want.  Try to find some dirt, you wont be able to.  I certainly did call every phone number I could when I found out what a scoundrel you were.  Id have called your parents too if Id have found their number.  Someone needs to stop you.  You failed to mention that I also left you email messages all saying the same thing. I said I was aware of what you were doing and that I was going to press charges against you for theft.  Stating things that are factual can be perceived as threats when the truth hurts. I am so sorry that you are such a victim here.  I mean, how dare I actually let people know that YOU STEAL DOGS.  I am so wrong for
not keeping that dirty little secret just between us.  I am probably to blame for all the trouble in your life.  What a joke, take some responsibility for your actions.  Admit you stole my dogs!!!!!!  if not, then produce some sort of PROOF to the contrary so that the world will know that you are indeed an honest woman. 

I will be waiting for you to post some sort of documents that prove either I REFUSED to take back the dogs or you PAID in full for my dogs before you SOLD them.  That is the main issue here.  YOU STOLE MY DOGS!!!!  You can try to divert attention away from that fact by writing all your gibberish but the truth remains.  You are the only person who is guilty of a crime. YOU STOLE MY DOGS.

I refuse to waste any more of my time responding to your nonsense.  I will just sit here looking for all that law enforcement to show up and arrest me. 
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#16 Consumer Comment

Response to deposit on Brenda's puppy

AUTHOR: aceswildkennel - (United States of America)

I just want to make it clear that Kelly that puppy has never had another deposit before me. You made a deposit after me AS I had a deposit on him from birth. I was in contact with Brenda since Kor-ee was pregnant for a blue male. And only reason I did not get him and he fell back up for sale is because I had a family emergency and had to care for my grand mother with cancer. And don't worry how much I had on him your clearly off on the deposit and how much I had paid towards the puppy. And I was never screwed over by Brenda, We are still very close. And I actually have done business with Judy and have a lovely puppy by her and would never see her stealing money and scamming anyone. Or anyone you are naming for that matter. 
So before you bring in that the puppy had so many deposits on him yada yada. He hasn't he had mine and then yours and then when you never finished paying him off. ( when someone doesn't fulfill there obligation to pay a puppy off a breeder has the right to keep the deposit. common sense.) he had the last n final who indeed got him..

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#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company

JACKIE MARTAIN YOU ARE THE ONE AT FAULT!!

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

Jackie im a grown up and not a child like you are, im doing this the grown up way and dealing with law enforcement and attorney generals and was keeping it OUT of the public unlike you! You are the one slandering myself, my children , my family members no matter what state they live in, my son in law that has never met you or heard of you until he was told by another breeder what was going on, you are bringing innocent by standers into this that have had NOTHING to do with you! You have called my family members and contacting them on facebook and harrassing them also, believe me they have informed me of all your actions ,Only between you and i is the dispute and of course the other breeders involved that i was dealing with on seperate issues that frankley is none of your business, i do have proof that Dia DOES NEED SURGERY, i have the proof from Jennifer herself on my daughters cell phone when Jennifer took her to the VCA Vet they to said Dia needs surgery, she has something major wrong with her knee and other issues im sure your aware of, i did not ignore you by not answering emails or phone calls, you INFACT threatend my family on a voice mail on my home phone that was very disturbing to law enforcement and my family, you should be old enough to know not to leave a voice mail threatening a family , you are 46 not 2, arent you? If you are a christian woman than why dont you act like one and quit trying to cover your tracks, why are you not telling people about the money i paid you and how you agreed to hold a check for few weeks, you are the one that knew i couldnt afford Finn until my check clear,d from Delta that i showed you when we met up , I tryed to work with you and you drove me crazy, i told you come get the dogs, i didnt care, i certainley did not want a dog that needed surgery Jackie, why would i purchase Dia for the $300 i paid you and have to have an exspensive surgery done on her, its not that i didnt love her but im sorry im not a rich person and i was told the surgery was very exspensive, you should have met back up and just took them back, you changed your mind and didnt want to, instead you asked for pictures daily by cell phone and frankley that got to be annoying, we had to send you pictures daily with the dates on a piece of paper, thats ridiculous, so i rehomed the dogs in the proper home i thought was right for them, what i dont understand is you say i stole the dogs, i had dia paid for before we ever even met so why would you accuse me of stealing her or even finn when we had a agreement? Thats just wrong Jackie and not right for you to do. I did not steal your dogs. And i do have all the reciepts of the money sent on all these dogs or i certainley would not have called the law in the states involved with the other breeders if i couldnt produce the proof, i had to fax  all the proof to the sheriffs departments except the 1 and Josh had to mail his the other day by registerd mail to the Mississippi Sheriff, different law enforcements do things different and they wanted it mailed all together what he had to show what Judy done to him and has never sent his money back, You turned Gina against me because of your lies and that was just wrong, Gina and i had no problems what so ever, i actually thought she was one of the honest breeders but in the end i found out different, she to stole the $200 deposit when she canceled the sell, all the others also canceled the sell, i DID NOT, so if a breeder cancels the sale than by law you the breeder have to give the buyers money back. You cant keep collecting deposits and just keep the money and not go thru with the sell. Lisa Ashlock was asked to meet me at 7pm rather than 6pm and she refused on friday the 15th of June, said it was to late that she wanted to be home by dark, that was the only day i had arranged to meet her, we did not have plans on the 11th like shes saying, thats the day she took the dogs to the vet, when she said 1 hour difference was to late for her on the 15th yes i did say okay we,ll do it a different day than i made plans for another day, Lisa is 10 hours from me and the day i went to meet her i was 7 hours from home and been in the car a total of 13 hours with there being a terrible accident on the interstate with traffic backed up to a stand still for hours, my daughter sent Lisa pictures of the accident to show her the mess we were in and when we got to Joplin we were exausted and needed a nap and for my daughter thats 7 monthes pregnant to rest, her ankles were swollen horrible and were hurting bad, she is a high risk pregnancy, i wanted to meet up with Lisa the next morning or ANYTIME that very next day since it was so late already, it would of been 2:30am when we would of got to Clarksville,Ar and than another 3 hours back to Joplin to get a motel room and we couldnt go anymore, we would of fallen asleep and been involved in a accident or something, my husband was furious Lisa would NOT let us pick the dogs up the next day at anytime she was free and she REFUSED and said ABSOULTLEY NOT that she was canceling the sale and we couldnt pick up the dogs, so we drove a 13 hour trip to Joplin and 7 hours back home for nothing because Lisa wouldnt let us pick up the dogs even when we said we would come to her house so it wouldnt be inconvient for her, that was just wrong of her and she to NEVER sent the $400 back just like all the other breeders. You people are scamming people out of deposits, thats against the law and im only defending myself and my family with all the hate speech and slandering you have done to us. I was told by the law to have NO CONTACT with any of you and let them handle these illegal matters you,ve all done but you just keep slandering my name and putting my family members out there in harms way bad mouthing them and they dont even know you. How many more lies are you going to come up with? Your friends should be mad at you for bringing them into all this when it could of just stayed out of the public and in the laws hands like i done, you must need alot of attention to be putting slander and hate speeches on a million websites, do you feel that guilty do do that? Apparentley your just showing how guilty you and your friends are for what you,ve done. You just keep trying to dig things up to hurt me and acting like a child would by trashing my kids and other family members, im not the only one after you, my son in law is as well as you dont even know him and you have his name address and phone number and all that out there to the public calling him a theif etc etc etc He wont stop til he gets justice and believe me his family has the money to pursue the matter. Its against the law to do what you,ve done to him and his family when he most certainley is a innocent by stander just like my 2 kids you have slanderd. You must lead a very boring life to have the time to trash people on every website out there because your concious is getting to you.  
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#18 Author of original report

PROVE it KELLY SCHRAM

AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)

Kelly, I finally have a place to contact you - so nice to hear from you after refusing to answer my emails, phone calls and texts.  I am challenging you in public to provide proof on anything you are saying about me, JACKIE MARTIN of RR BOSTON TERRIERS in WISCONSIN.  I have nothing to hide, never have and never will.  I am a Christian woman and though I forgive you for being misguided, that does not mean I will be a doormat and let you steal from me or attempt to ruin my reputation when I have done nothing wrong. 

1.  How did I bring all these other breeders into your mess?  I happened to have been contacted by one of them, not the other way around.  I had no idea that you were buying dogs all over the country until someone else clued me in on your schemes.

2.  Provide proof that you paid for the 2 dogs you acquired from me.

3.  Provide proof that I sold you a sick dog.

4.  Provide proof of anything you can find anywhere, in emails or on the internet or even in your imagination, where I have slandered or harassed you or your family members.  I have indeed told my story as I did here on this website in order to stop other people from falling for your conniving stories, but everything I've written is factual.  Slander implies telling a FALSE story and MAKING THINGS UP, actually, exactly what you are doing to me and the other breeders you are accusing of being part of this "Dog Crime Ring." 

Feel free to copy and paste any shred of evidence that I have done something wrong.  I am more than happy to post the contract you signed, the copy of the check written on a closed account, 28 pages of emails between us where you assure me you love my dogs and will make good on the bad check, a copy of the Craigslist ad in which you sold my dogs, a letter from the woman who purchased my dogs stating that she took them to the vet the very day she acquired them and neither one was sick or in need of an immediate expensive surgery, or anything else that you'd like me to make public to prove what a liar you are. 

I have no idea why you feel the need to bad mouth a group of boston terrier breeders who did nothing but attempt to work with you in finding you that perfect pet.  YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE in this group who has actually done something WRONG!  YOU STOLE MY DOGS and are now trying to pass the blame on everyone but yourself.  Anyone with any sense about them will read what you have written and see right through you.  I have a duty as a breeder to not only protect myself and my dogs but other breeders as well from people like yourself who prey on our kindness. 

I know you will have nothing to post to collaborate your lies about me.  Therefore, your non-evidence can serve as proof that everything I have stated about you in my initial report here as well as on Facebook and Puppyfind is 100% the truth. 

I look forward to speaking with all the authorities you are sending my way to investigate my illegal activity.  I am sure once I show them my evidence against you, it will only make it much easier to get the charges against you to stick.  Thanks so much for helping me build my case.  I appreciate it.
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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

LISA ASHLOCK JACKIE BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

Lisa just so you know that your so called friends one of them that done me wrong is the one that will NOT QUIT slandering my name, my family members names even my parents and Children, shes nuts and will NOT STOP and she is the one bringing you all into it, iam only defending myself as im tired of the bullcrap you all have put me and my family thru and stolen $1400 from myself and family over these dogs and $500 from my son in law that has NOTHING to do with any of this, Jackie is bringing people into this matter and trying to put my family and friends in HARMS way with her hate speeches and LIEs so im fighting back, Jackie is the one that will be in JAIL from all this slander, you see i bet she hasnt told you that she has slanderd my name not only on facebook i was told but on many websites includeing puppyfind, she has dug her grave by far over all this slander as she is in a world of trouble with the law with this slander and acting like a 2 year old, she seriousley needs to grow the hell up and get a life and drop off the face of the earth, im the one that should be doing what shes doing by telling the world how you 5 breeders have scammed my family and my son in law out of $1700, you all have made up excuses is to why you kept my money and never let me pick up the dog/dogs, the only reason 5 of you were contacted to buy a dog is because you all kept screwing me over and over so i would just call someone else to buy a dog when screwed over each time, it all started with Brenda Dillon changeing the price of the dog several times from $1200 to $1400 to $1500 than $2000, shes absoultly nuts and a major crook, she sold that pup to 4 diff people before it actually went to a home, each time it was sold she was collecting $400 deposits each time by paypal and money grams, i had kept my mouth shut as im a grown up not a 2 year old child like Jackie slandering my name and other innocent family members, i only reported you all to the sheriff department and attorney generals in your states etc but nothing on public view except on the ads that were posted of the pups i bought and the one Josh had paid $500 on to Judy Thomas and only owed $200 and she had the pup forsale 2 days after she cashed Joshs money order and that is a FACT as he has pictures to prove it from another breeder, truth is the truth, you,ve all been mentioned today because i was notifyed on Jackies slandering and she will not stop it, she shouldnt have sold a sick dog that needed surgery right away, and just for the record you all that say i run a kennel, a ya NO I DO NOT, you all have the apparent puppymills and kennels, my chihuahuas are in my home by my side and sleep with me at night, go to my website, i take care of my animals unlike you breeders, i raised chihuahuas over 10 years ago for many years and never at 1 time had over 6 adults at a time and its none of your business rather i have 2 dogs or 6 dogs if i want to buy another i can your not my boss, i was going to get back into raiseing a litter a year last fall and than just backed out when my male i bought out of florida that i wanted as my prize male died on a Delta flight on the way home because of the idiot breeder wanting to ship him when he weighed 7 ounces, to many stupid breeders out there that only care about the money and not the dogs, you all need stopped to stealing deposits and canceling sales for stupid reasons that is called THEFT! I dropped this long before now except with law enforcement on you guys, but thanx to your dear friend Jackie and her hate speeches and lies and slander she has brought you all into it and im not going to sit back and let it happen, i will tell everyone what you,ve done when your all acting so innocent when you,ve all stolen $1700.00 and i have the proof to show anyone!!! Jackie, Arent you just glad you had to bring your friends into this today? Your the one that pushed my wrong button, tell your friends to thankyou for keeping this out in public like a 2 year old. Seriousley , grow up and act your real age!! 
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#20 REBUTTAL Owner of company

In regards to me stealing deposits and reselling dogs

AUTHOR: Ashlock Yankee Bostons - (United States of America)

My name is Lisa Ashlock and I am the owner and operator of Ashlock Yankee Bostons.  Kelly Schram has no right saying I stole dogs and money from her.  My website clearly states that the only way you get a deposit back is in the event of the death of a pup or if a pup does not pass his health check.  Kelly was given 3 chances to come and get her puppies...I was more than flexible in trying to get those pups to her, but firmly believe it was in the best interest of the pups that the meet up never happened.  For one she told me the same thing she told Jackie that she only had 2 older chihuahua's.  Clearly a lie since she operates her own kennel with several dogs  I too thought I had found the perfect home for my pups.  First Diamond then Coal...a blessing I thought to have two siblings grow up together.  She is a smooth talker and I fell for everything she said hook, line and sinker.

 We entered into the agreement on May 15 to acquire Diamond, shortly after that Coal.  I told her the deposit was $250 per pup and that I would accept a personal check so long as it cleared before 6 weeks of age, which at that point they are to be paid in full too.  I also told her I accepted paypal.  She kept giving me a story about some check being mailed to the wrong address and when it got there she would mail me a check.  I finally received a money order for $400 instead of $500...I let it go because she was getting two of our pups.  On May 26th she told me she would get the pups on June 11th.  I got up early that day to take the pups to the vet so I could meet her 3 hours away with the pups only to find out her daughter, who is pregnant, had a doctors appointment she couldn't change.  I let it go and we set another date and time being June 15 at 6...she wrote me at 4 a.m. that morning asking to change the time to a little later because she was unable to meet...I only said to her "I would rather keep it the same"...never said I wouldn't meet her.  She responded back around 12 that day "well I guess we will have to do it another day then"...another day down for me because I had rescheduled to this date.,..at that point I had decided not to let her have the dogs, was going to send her deposit back and she threw a fit and told me how heartbreaking it was for her family who was looking forward to getting those new puppies.  She told me about how she lost a chihuahua months before on a flight and how devastating it was...it tugged at my heart so I told her she had one more chance to get the pups...no changing the times.  We had a very full schedule and was leaving on a trip so time was tight...she chose Friday June 29th at 7...I also told her I could not make the 3 hour drive but would meet her an hour away.

 Around 4 or 5 that day I get a message from her saying they are stuck in traffic somewhere north of Joplin MO...she said their had been a bad wreck and traffic was at a standstill for hours.  I told her that was fine, to let me know when they made it to Joplin and we would just meet her later...she responded it would be 10-12 that night...I told her that was fine...I would still meet....around 8 that night I get a text from her daughter saying they were in Joplin and needed to rest...I said that was fine, what time will you be in Clarksville?  She said she didn't know...so I waited, and waited and waited....finally around 1130 I text her to see where they were...no response...at 1230 that night I get a very nasty email from her husband saying how inconsiderate I was and they wanted their money sent back immediately.  I told them no, they did not show up for 3 times and it was not my fault on any of them.  I told them to feel free to contact an attorney and they said they would contact our local sherif and report me.  I told them to do what they felt they had to do.  I then posted on my Facebook what had happened to let other breeders just beware and if they sold any dogs to them to go in with open eyes.  

It was at that point that all these other breeders started telling me all their experiences with her.  One lady even read me an email that is almost exactly word for word for the email Kelly had sent me.  I will happily provide all documentation on any of this transaction along with many, many great references.  I am not sure what this lady's problem is but she is the one who has done many dogs wrong...even tho this has turned into a huge hassle for me, I am forever grateful my pups did not go to that lady.  I too failed my pups....
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#21 REBUTTAL Owner of company

RR Bostons AKA Jackie Martain IS A CROOK!!

AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)

I Did nothing wrong but be ripped off by RR Bostons AKA Jackie Martain and her 5 friends, they are scamming people out of alot of money in dog deposits, They have stolen $1700.00 from my family and my son in law, Jackie Martain of 6420 king road Rhinelander, Winsconsin 54501 Phone Number 715-272-1966 Sold me two SICK Boston Terriors , one needed surgery as soon as possible, She is not telling everyone about the $300 Money gram she was sent from i and the money she recieved to cover the check she was holding for the dog she PUSHED on me to keep it with its mother even though she was 8 monthes old and did not need her mother, Jackie has been paid and REFUSED to take the dogs back and give me my money back so YES i did rehome them to another home two weeks after i had them when i was told she did not want them back, I put them in a home to someone that could afford a very exspensive surgery on the older female, I did not plan on buying a dog that needed a serious surgery right off the bat, Jackie cares nothing about her dogs dont let her fool you, She is only money hungry like her 5 friends, Her friend Judy Thomas in Mississippi Stole $500 from my son in law with the omaha address she has on this complaint, She had him send a us postal money order on monday July 2nd she recieved it and cashed it and resold the SAME dog 2 days later on July 4th so she stole another persons money, my son in law was buying the dog for $700 and had paid her $500 and was going to pay the balance of $200 when he flew out to get the dog and thats when another breeder informed him Judy Thomas was scamming him out of his $500 so he turned her into the Pike County Sheriffs department with a felony charge and federal charges as it was a federal us postal money order she cashed of his, Her other friend Brenda Dillon STOLE $400 from myself and i found out she collected 4 $400 deposits on the same dog and fianally let a woman have the dog as a co ownership so even after she collected 4 diff deposits of $400 she STILL co-owns the dog, unbelievable!! Her other friend Gina Edwards of Oklahoma stole $200 from me on a deposit on her pup Flash and she to has charges on her thru the Sheriffs dept. Her other friend, Lisa Ashlock of Ashlock Yankee Bostons stole $400 from me on a deposit and she to CHARGEd with theft charges and federal for another us postal money order, Her other friend of Chiming Kennel in Texas stole $200 deposit and same deal, they each and everyone of them are pending on theft charges for running these dog scamms that they planned out. Jackie Martain of Winsconsin that put this complaint on this website has slandered my name my chidrens names and other family members all over several websites and facebook which the police are looking into to charge her with, she has put my family in harms way with her hate speechs that are all lies, the lady needs to grow up and act her age and get a life and a different job other than stealing innocent peoples hard earned money and quit dealing with her friends in these scams because the sheriff will get to the bottom of it and they will ALL rott in JAIL where they belong!! If you want to see of all the money reciepts they scammed us out of i will SHOW ANYONE so they have NO DEALINGS WITH THESE CROOKS! If you look at my website you will see how well my my dogs, horses or any other animal is well taken care of and in a LOVING home unlike these womens that are crooks and run these puppymills with the dogs in kennels of some kind!!
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