- Report: #910618
Complaint Review: Tiny Tot Chihuahuas
| Tiny Tot Chihuahuas 7501 s 28th street
Bellevue, Nebraska United States of America |
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Tiny Tot Chihuahuas Kelly Schram STOLEN DOGS Bellevue, Nebraska
*Author of original report: Court find Kelly Schram Guilty!!!!
*General Comment: got it wronge
*Consumer Comment: Kelly Schram Scam
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: SUCH BULLCRAP KAY HEYD/ONLY HURT YOURSELF
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: joshua richard heyd
*General Comment: You made it personal
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: KayLynn Heyd your A lier as well!!
*General Comment: NOT HER ADDRESS
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Jackie you are such a lier
*Author of original report: Kelly Schram Address
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: DONT LIVE HERE
*Consumer Comment: ANOTHER THING JACKIE MARTIN OF RR BOSTONS
*Consumer Comment: Jackie Martin is a LIER
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: JACKIE YOU ARE A JOKE LIKE THE OTHERS
*Author of original report: I am to blame for Kelly being a thief
*Consumer Comment: Response to deposit on Brenda's puppy
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: JACKIE MARTAIN YOU ARE THE ONE AT FAULT!!
*Author of original report: PROVE it KELLY SCHRAM
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: LISA ASHLOCK JACKIE BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: In regards to me stealing deposits and reselling dogs
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: RR Bostons AKA Jackie Martain IS A CROOK!!
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a bit more energy. She was looking for pets that would love everyone, like to go on car rides and be good with kids as she was expecting a grandchild soon.
She sent the deposit via Wal-Mart money gram with the rest to be paid in cash at time of delivery. Arrangements were made for her to drive to my house to get them. She was driving 1250 miles round trip, another factor in me deciding she was a great person and really wanted my dogs. She signed a contract stating that she was purchasing the dogs as pets, would spay the second female immediately and would contact me for first right of refusal if she ever needed to rehome them. Everything most breeders would want from a new home.
When time came for her to drive to my home, she informed me that her truck driving husband was not able to accompany her and she would have to bring her pregnant daughter instead. She asked if she could pay me for my time and gasoline if I would meet them part way. I agreed. We met (500 miles round trip for me), she DID NOT have cash. She explained that she had to leave so early in the morning to meet me that the bank was not yet open. She had gone to the ATM but could only get out a small amount due to the daily limits imposed on her account. I honestly should have just got back in my car with my dogs and gone home but the red flags didnt jump out at me. I am usually a pretty good judge of character but my intuition failed me. I fell for her story and accepted a check for the balance due ($750). I did not even include anything extra for my time or gas as I was just so convinced that this was a great home and I was thankful I had found her.
So, Id driven 500 miles, the check ends up being written on a closed account under the name "Tiny Tot Chihuahuas" and I have no dogs. She stays in contact via phone and email for about 10 days and says she is going to money gram the balance as her check book had been stolen and she had to close the account. Excuse after excuse, no money gram and basically telling me I was an evil person for even thinking she might be stealing my dogs.
Eventually no contact she does not answer emails, texts or take my phone calls. My dogs have now been gone for almost 2 weeks and I decide I will just drive to Nebraska myself and get my dogs back as I realize the huge mistake Ive made and I do not want my dogs living with someone I do not trust.
I placed a message on FB looking for someone to drive by the address Id been given before I head out as I want to make sure I am not driving 1250 miles to an abandoned building. I am answered by the Nebraska Boston Terrier Rescue. A volunteer had seen my dogs up for sale in a Craigslist ad just two days prior and Rescue had purchased them. Had they not, I would never have known what happened to my girls.
After the fact I have learned that this woman attempted to "purchase" at least 10 boston terriers around the same time she stole mine. She is actively attempting to obtain more dogs at this time.
This is definitely not a woman looking for a sweet, little pet to join her home. She is stealing dogs and reselling them!!!
I know she got my dogs through deceit did not pay for them and then sold them on Craigslist exactly 13 days after getting them. Yes, I was wrong inmy choice of picking a safe family for my dogs but that is all I am guilty of here. I failed my dogs but I am not a liar nor a thief she is.
The woman in question is:
Kelly Schram AKA Kelly Miner AKA Sissy Miner
Emails she has used:
hiddenacres@yahoo.com
kelly.schram@yahoo.com
The 2 known addresses she is using are:
7501 S 28th
Street
Bellevue, NE 68147
6814 S 51st
Street
Omaha, NE 68117
Phone numbers include:
402-504-3898; 402-312-4522; 402-637-5410; 402-917-5463
Please do not sell to or purchase any dogs from these people.
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Search Tips#1 Author of original report
Court find Kelly Schram Guilty!!!!
AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 14, 2012
never and will never, misrepresent any dog in my household. I was taken advantage of by a con artist who when caught in her scam, took revenge by trying to ruin my reputation. Warning to anyone who may have puppies for sale, please use extreme caution when selling to anyone in the Bellevue, Nebraska area. Kelly Minor Schram uses various names and also has enlisted the help of her daughter, Bobbie Jo and son-in-law,
Josh Heyd, in this scheme. She is involved in Chihuahuas and possibly other breeds besides Boston Terriers. Protect your babies and your reputation, do not get involved with this woman!
#2 General Comment
got it wronge
AUTHOR: sybud - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 29, 2012
#3 Consumer Comment
Kelly Schram Scam
AUTHOR: Daphne369 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 17, 2012
All of the comments I have read on this site regarding the issue(s) of dog(s) transactions, actually reveals only 1 truth about all of the people involved...
That all or most of you need to go back to school to learn how to spell!
The disgusting fact that it is so obvious that Kelly can't even spell the simplest words, makes me cringe that this person has reproduced another human being. She can't even take care of dogs so one can only imagine how ignorant she is when it comes to an actual real human being. I only have sympathy for any child she will give birth to.
I sympathize with all of the victims for Schram's scamming of their beloved pets. Sounds like Schram has too much time on her butt...wouldn't hurt her to get up off of it and do something actually positive!
#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company
SUCH BULLCRAP KAY HEYD/ONLY HURT YOURSELF
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds
joshua richard heyd
AUTHOR: joshua richard heyd - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
i dont want someone opening my mail and trying to start problems with my fiance bobbie jo schram i love her and am going to spend my hole life with her andraise are beautiful daughter kali jo schram and she is my kid my names on the birth certificate and will be heyd when me and bobbie get married im with here because i love here more then anything in the world and want to spend my hole life with bobbie jo schram and kali jo schram and i couldnt do it without bobbie jo schram
she helps me so much and seeing her hold are daughter kali jo just makes me so happy and anyone who has a prob with it can reach me on my cell @402-981-9840 i also work up at cornhusker auto wash ... and i do not want my name on here what so ever by anyone its my life and i will do as i please ..so i say agian stay out of my buisiness i love bobbie jo schram and kali jo schram more then anything and am never going to leave her i sad how my own family doesnt want any thing to do with my daughter or my fiance bobbie jo schram
sincerly
#6 General Comment
You made it personal
AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
It list to numberous things to mention but in tHAT LIST IS HANDLING MATTERS PERSONAL AND LEAGAL BY PHONE, MAIL, OR IN PERSON. Wiah I would of opened the first 2 letters I would of catched on sooner. He trusted me enough to sign that in front of 3 witnesses. 3rd) We love Josh and always will and wish him only the best with the raising of HIS daughter. There alot of reasons a father should want a child to have his last name.
The most important so it'l know the dad loved her enough, the second is so he has a more legal right to that child. (which you already knew, thats why you advised him otherwise, not really because Kali would loose her medicade, because Josh only has a min wage job at the care wash, and dont even make enough to even pay child support, so they would still get it regardless) He cant claim her on taxes you also knew that too. But again you know all this dont you? But if he didnt want her to have his name that up to him.
If god forbid he does marry BJ they will have a different name then Kali would still be a Schram, and at this point if the do get married maybe he should take the schram name, not unheard of and at least theyd all have the same name. Marrying the mom dont change the babys name something else you and BJ said. 4 I dont know everything but I do know alot, and I do know and believe that Josh will be an awsome dad but tha's not because he learned it from you, it was the HEYD family that showed him to have a huge caring heart and always find the good in people (he sees something in Bj that we dont) He will continue to do everything for Kali that he possibly can as he should.
We just wanted him to have more of a legal right. Kali will have a great life with JOSH TAKING CARE OF HER. i HAVE NO DOUBTS OF THAT AT ALL! % EXPOSING HER TO SCAMS AND SMOKING WILL NOT. Thats why I wanted Josh and BJ to get housing, but BJ is affraid to be a grown up on her own. I was the bigger person and forgave BJ for the last rant not because I wanted to be her best friend in no means! It was for Josh, and what he wanted. He wanted to be able to come see his family even if he couldnt come alone we excepted that wed have to see BJ too.
I raised 4 great children to be honest, and work hard for what they wanted in life even if they had to have 2 jods. Not live on ADC, food stamps, and welfair, so yes Im very proud of all them! 5) I didnt teach them to scam. steel, (trailers car hoods, rims and such, and sell it to relatives and such (sound familar?) O and yes that reminds me or how Josh said when he eats or takes snacks out of the microwave he gets dirty looks because hes eating your FREE FOOD. 6 Im not bi-polar just because some one keeps quiet about alot of sh*t and then blows up when enough is enough.
Hint (ranting on about everyone else does show signs of mental issues, you may want to get that checked out) But Josh did come to me when he needed gas money to get to the hospital to see Kali and get to work, because no one that he lived with would.I would love to sit down with Josh but instead I get to read from his two mouth pcs you and BJ. Guess so he dont rock the boat for Kalis sake, and I totaly understand.6) I never threaten anyone not Bj not Josh or Kali and certainly not you either. I saved my text too. and my out texts stopped long before BJ did that nite hers.
If Id never forgave BJ back then wed be in a better place and this would of all be avoided. 7) If I we never see Kali ever again that will be sad but you cant miss something you never had....I got to hold Kali one time and see the passion and joy on Joshs face when he held her and that you cant take away. If thats the case then thats fine if that the decsion that is made be whoever is making Joshs decsions these days. I wont like it but Ill live with it. 8) On the very bright side no dealing with you! which is sad in its own way I almost believed you about the dog scamming, but then I read the letter you wrote in Joshs name, no way in hell did he write those letters.
he dont talk or write like that and further more never lived in Wymore or worked AT Greater America, dont have a retired dad that lost a boston dog and never even had that breed. I can see how someone could be taken in but that o and my fav (we would of went back to the orginal breeder but he died of cancer, so believable! You missed your calling start writing short stories, you'll make a killing. 9) just goes to show if you paint a pretty picture you can pull someone in. Ok enough of that sinking to yor level.
10) BJ had no problem taking the 167.00 jcp and BWBF clothes I got her because she was always wearing the same old hot pants "and I thought it would be something I could do for her to show I was realy trying) or the bags of slothes I bought for Kali and the sack from my friend too. Dont see her saying I dont want them or need them because Kay got them and return them is she???? No way. Now that I sit here and see the few family address no friends you gave me to send out invitations to the baby shower my daughter in law, daughter and I was planning (not one rvp and said they were coming,
hum all the ones I invited did, but she didnt need or want anything else from me,(her words not min) so I returned with the receipts to almost 500. worth of stuff, my daughter had close to 200. if not more(o forgot she gdid give the nice diaper bag to her at the hospital) Kali would of had all that she needed and more. That would of just pissed you off to know the Heyd family provided all that hu? Finally I pray Kali stays healthy and happy and grows to a strong child, loved and blessed by God and her dad Josh as long as hes by her side teaching her right from wrong, and to be honest and have a big heart she have a good life and many "friends". Josh I love you we all do, if you need us you know where we are we love you inconditionaly forever. written by Kay Heyd
#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company
KayLynn Heyd your A lier as well!!
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 29, 2012
#8 General Comment
NOT HER ADDRESS
AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 28, 2012
#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Jackie you are such a lier
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 28, 2012
#10 Author of original report
Kelly Schram Address
AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 28, 2012
CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
#11 REBUTTAL Owner of company
DONT LIVE HERE
AUTHOR: lynn - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, August 26, 2012
#12 Consumer Comment
ANOTHER THING JACKIE MARTIN OF RR BOSTONS
AUTHOR: Miner Trucking - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#13 Consumer Comment
Jackie Martin is a LIER
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 15, 2012
#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company
JACKIE YOU ARE A JOKE LIKE THE OTHERS
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 14, 2012
And for you saying my family disown me Jackie, hmmm thats funny im VERY CLOSE with my family and always have been, i will make sure my parents and brothers etc see all this to also include that in on their case against you for slander and harrassment, IT WAS MY PARENTS THAT BLOCKED YOUR A** ON FACEBOOK FOR HARRASSMENT and turned you into facebook, it was MY BROTHER THAT ALSO BLOCKED YOUR A** FOR HARRASSMENT and the others dont have facebook so get your sh*t STRAIGHT, It was ONLY 1 DUMBA** CROOK brother in law you talked to that thank god im NO BLOOD RELATION to the a**hole that you talked to that bad mouthed me and guess what??? HE is the THEIF of the family, he stole the horse from SHADY LANE RANCH that is a very good friend of mine where I WORKED FOR YEARS MISS KNOW IT ALL, my brother in law took a horse from him , wrote a check, stopped payment on check same day took the horse than sold him immediatley, he stole his brothers pride and joy 69 camero my husband had for many years, he has stole from so many trucking companys lieing he was hurt with same injury from 30 years ago and done insurance scams on them i cant keep up with him there has been so many, he lives with his sugar mama that supports him because he dont know how to work a day in his life except a day or two here and there to say he was hurt on the job, there, now MISS KNOW IT ALL JACKIE WHO,S THE LIER??? Ya you found the 1 person that is NOT blood related but calls himself family that will bad mouth myself and my family, my parents hate his guts as he has caused numerous problems for them over the years, he causes problems to everyone!
AND WE DID LIVE ON A FARM FOR 17 years where my kids were raised, JEALOUS??? YOU MUST Be, i had exotic animals includeing my canadian black bear, ive had state license to own every one of them so dont tell me im not legal lady, you dont know me and you certainley dont know my family but yet you have harrassed us over and over with your lies, hate speeches, threats etc, you have Josh,s address out in public and he lives there, NOT I dumba**, you dont know him what so ever, only reason you know his name is because judy gloating she stole his $500 on a $700 dog within 2 days! My horses are my horses, its none of your business where i keep my livestock, my parents do live on a farm miss know it all, i have lived on a farm my ENTIRE LIFE even before i had children except 2 years and im 46 years old, ive got more experiance with animals than you ever will, i trained horses my whole life until i about died in 2002 haveing a surgery.
I have all kinds of proof to back myself up,like i said everything was faxed or mailed to all the sheriffs dept.s i have no clue how to put things on here without printer, scanner and all that but jackie i wouldnt put some of it on here anyway to put other peoples address,s out to public unlike you have im a better person than that i only said your address, all the breeders that have kept my money and josh,s money admit they have it so i dont need to put that on here but the sheriffs dept has told us to not continue with this non sense, i have a good reputation with all the people that i have sold an animal to and all the churches ive put petting zoo,s on for over and over and was a 4-h leader for years with the horse events. At least ALL my animals are vacinated and have all their shots Jackie, you straight up lied about your dogs, Dia had NO SHOTS and Rabies expired and you claimed it was because she was pregnant AGAIN, she was bred every 6 monthes, being a c-section every time, WHO SERIOUSLEY does that?? Only you and probley your friends just to make a dollar, breed back to back putting the dog thru so much with c-sections, i would NEVER DO THAT IN MY LIFE!
You need help, you are a mentally sick person that has twisted so much around and harrasseing my family at no end, im done with you im done with your crooked friends , im letting the law handle it, i should of listen to them and never even got on here but i wanted people to know the truth, frankley i dont care what you boston breeders believe as your all crooks apparentley, what has happened has happened and what is done is done, i have my true friends and family that support me 100% ( except the 1 crooked brother inlaw that has a big mouth that loves to start trouble because he,s jealous of his own brothers life we have together ), ive been with my husband 30 years and so glad he disowns his brother that is so pathetic, he belongs in your catagory. (CRAZY). I didnt understand why you bad mouthed craigslist so bad either Jackie but yet you are SOOOOO HAPPY where they went and love the people, i dont think you know what you want in life or what to think you are just running your mouth so hard trying to keep your friends on your side when it was you that put them out here to the public saying i stole their dogs but yet they still have their dogs and all our money, you dont deserve to have any friends the way you accuse innocent people , you are the one that made a verbal agreement with me and did not stick with it and broke the agreement, not i, you have made up so many lieds and stories i cant keep up with them all, you seriousley should seek help for your mental issues.
#15 Author of original report
I am to blame for Kelly being a thief
AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 14, 2012
I have never denied that you sent a deposit, go back and refresh your memory by reading my initial statement. I said you wrote a check on a closed account for the balance due. You did not have Dia paid in full; the contract states that you sent a $100 deposit on Dia and a $200 deposit for Infinity. You cant just say that you have decided to apply the $300 towards Dia and therefore you only stole Infinity!!! You were to pay the balance due of $750 and you never have. I have the phony check you gave me to prove it. I am the one who tried to work with you I even offered to accept $700 so
you didnt have to come up with the extra $45 money gram fee. You stopped communicating with me. Never once did you offer to return those dogs to me. And had I figured out what was really going on with you before you sold my dogs, I would have been on your doorstep demanding my dogs back! Not because of the money, but because I placed them in the hands of a completely devious woman. There are far more important things in life than money. To me, not having to worry about my dogs because they have been placed in wonderful homes is a number one priority. I have given dogs to people for free who would love them and take care of them. Had you told me you couldnt afford them I probably would have given them to you without charge also as I truly believed all the lies about you being this wonderful, loving home. Instead, you steal the dogs and based on what you have done since, shown yourself to not be fit to own dogs period! What kind of person dumps them on Craigslist 13 days of acquiring them? Who pretends to still have them on July 2 when she sold them on June 29th?.
Yes, I asked you for A photo of my dogs, what responsible breeder would not?? All your lies and excuses were beginning to make me extremely nervous and worried about my dogs. I had the feeling you had sold them or had done something horrible to them and I was right. A good, kind, loving home would have no objections to sending a photo of their new dogs. As a matter of fact I get them all the time from people who have gotten dogs from me in the past and I dont even have to ask for them!!! I am so sorry you consider it harassment.
You have never once tried to be reasonable with me Kelly. You never attempted to make good on the money you owe me and you certainly did not offer to give me the dogs back. Remember what you did instead??? You tried to disappear. You cut off all communication, sold my dogs and thought Id never know what happened to you or them. But you didnt succeed. I found you and now you have been caught in your own web of lies. You are angry and trying to place a lot of blame on me yet you are the one who is in the wrong. You have no right to sell dogs that you do not own. You pay for them first, then you can sell them; other wise it is known as THEFT and the SALE OF STOLEN GOODS. You should know this if you have been talking to lawyers, law enforcement and Attorney Generals!
Did I take to the internet and inform other breeders that you are stealing dogs and trying to acquire multiple dogs all at once YUP. Id certainly hope someone would warn me rather than sit back, keep their mouth shut and let other people become your victims. I happen to care about other people. More breeders need to stand up to those who try to get dogs using false stories. You told me a complete pack of lies. Reputable breeders dont just sell to any person who comes along with the money. They try to ferret out the good homes to ensure that the lives they brought into this world are well taken care of once they leave their homes. If more people would expose scam artists such as you, all this drama could be eliminated. As I told you via email, I have learned a valuable lesson as a result of this and believe me, the next time I have puppies for sale potential families will have to jump though hoops to get one of my dogs. I will never make the mistake again of placing one of my beloved dogs in the wrong hands.
So, taking these types of issues public is exactly what more people need to do. If I would have heard your name before I was conned into letting you steal my dogs you can be sure I certainly would not have let you take them. You say you are the adult and are handling it through the proper authorizes instead of making it public. You werent handling anything like an adult, the only reason you didnt make this public is because YOU DONT WANT THIS IN PUBLIC. I dont know too many people who are proud to be called thieves. I can just imagine now what youd write to people had you decided to take this public yourself. WARNING, I STEAL DOGS AND THEN PEOPLE GET MAD AT ME They have the nerve to ask for payment and when I dont pay, they tell other people that I am a thief. Oh! the injustice of it all.
Poor, poor Kelly, I have so taken advantage of you. You have done nothing wrong and I am just making up all these stories about you and finding people from all over the US that you just happened to try to do the same thing to. What a complete miracle that you contacted all of us you accuse of being in the Dog crime ring when there are hundreds of boston terrier breeders you could have targeted. You must just have the worst luck in the world. (That is sarcasm in case you dont know).
I honestly have no idea on what happened with some of the transactions with the other breeders you tried to scam as most of the instances were before my involvement with you - but I do know what happened between us. You paid a deposit on 2 dogs, got them in your possession and did not finish paying for them plain and simple. That is THEFT. The fact that you then decided to sell them does not erase the fact that you STOLE them in the first place.
As to being a 2 year old and not handling this through law enforcement as you suggest, I am going that route also. It will be quite interesting to see who ends up on the right side of the law when this is all said and done. I will be sure to make those results public also.
As to my having sold you SICK DOGS. Dia is not SICK as you claim. The vet discovered she has a grade 3 luxating patella and MIGHT require surgery at some point in her life. The vet has indicated she is showing absolutely no signs or symptoms and at this point it is a non issue; she DOES NOT need surgery now and may NEVER. The fact that Dia had a luxating patella was discovered by Jennifers vet after she purchased them, NOT YOURS, so there is no way that you knew about it prior to dumping my dogs on Craigslist. You sold them quickly in order to make a buck and get rid of them before I caught you. I was putting pressure on you and you panicked and dumped them. You were certainly not the loving home I thought I was placing my pets in!
The story you gave Jennifer certainly differs from the one you are claiming now. You told Jennifer the dogs belonged to your daughter whose deal on a house fell through. You said Bobbie Jo could not keep the dogs because her apartment would not allow her to have them. You told Jennifer nothing about Dia needing an expensive, immediate surgery. Isnt that misrepresenting the dog? Shouldnt you have told her that before you sold the dogs to her? You said you found someone who could pay for the surgery funny, Jennifer had no idea until after she took the dog to her own vet that Dia might need surgery in the future. Why did you not disclose this information to Jennifer if you knew?
And what about Infinity? Why did you dump her???? Was she SICK also? What did she suffer from? Ive heard nothing about your reason for selling her on Craigslist. She had no issues at all when she was vet checked, not even a potential,10 year from now problem. So, why didnt you keep her? You wanted her so badly but in 13 days you sold her? You sent glowing reports of how well the dogs were doing and how everyone loved them so much. So, why did you sell Infinity???
You know we had no such agreement for you to take my dogs and pay me weeks later. I might have been fooled by you but I am not crazy. No one would agree to that. Need I remind you that you were to bring me CASH. Do you not remember telling me after I drove to meet you that you hadnt wanted to tell me about not having cash before I left as you were afraid Id back out??? You convinced me to accept the check and I was stupid enough to TRUST YOU. You said the check was good and when it wasnt, you promise to send the money day after day but never did. This
was no accident, this was a carefully plotted scheme to screw me over and you succeeded.
Is it my fault other breeders have had the same type of thing happening with you? Go ahead and blame me if it makes you feel better. I am thrilled that you didnt get your hands on their dogs. With Lisa I know for a fact you were supposed to meet her THE VERY DAY BEFORE YOU MET ME.
I am 100% convinced you were going to make her drive 3 hours and then try to hand her a phony check as well. Fortunately, She was smart enough to figure you out.
With the others, werent you supposed to PAY for the puppies you were attempting to acquire BEFORE YOU TOOK DELIVERY OF THEM? Oh, thats right, you were sending out that legitimate deposit again like you did with me but then you were going to attempt to get those dogs without paying them off either. Just so you know, if you send a non-refundable deposit and then do not hold up your end of the agreement to pay for the puppies, you dont get the puppy and you lose your deposit. It is your own fault for sending out deposits on 10 different dogs within a months time and then not being able to pay for them; not mine. You had $500 from the sale of my dogs, what did you do with that money? You certainly didnt send it to me. Perhaps you should have paid it to one of those other breeders you owed money to?
And where were you going to keep all these dogs? You live in a little two bedroom house in an area that does not allow dozens of dogs on your property. That means you are either out of compliance with your local laws or you are storing the dogs somewhere else, perhaps on the farm that you show on your website? You put up all these photos of dogs and horses and buildings on your website to make you look like this responsible, caring, wealthy woman but in reality you dont even own the house you currently live in. Yes, I talked to your family. I learned how you have stolen from hundreds of people and how you are currently taking advantage of a kind old man. Ive learned that you've never worked a day in your life and live off disability payments and what you can steal. I know that the farm does not belong to you and that you twist your words to make people see you in a flattering light when reality is so very ugly for you. Ive heard how your own family had to disown you because you stole from them and so many of their friends. I was encouraged by your own flesh and blood to do whatever I could to throw you in jail how does that make you feel? The people that are supposed to have your back, support you and defend you, your own family Kelly, even they have called you out to be a liar and a thief.
Your lies are going to get the best of you. I am not going to let this go until you admit that you stole my dogs and have made up a huge set of lies about me. You can either do that here, or in court. I do not appreciate your efforts to ruin my good name and I will fight you to clear my reputation. Go ahead and check me out. Call everyone who has ever gotten a dog from me, my family members, other breeders, anyone you want. Try to find some dirt, you wont be able to. I certainly did call every phone number I could when I found out what a scoundrel you were. Id have called your parents too if Id have found their number. Someone needs to stop you. You failed to mention that I also left you email messages all saying the same thing. I said I was aware of what you were doing and that I was going to press charges against you for theft. Stating things that are factual can be perceived as threats when the truth hurts. I am so sorry that you are such a victim here. I mean, how dare I actually let people know that YOU STEAL DOGS. I am so wrong for
not keeping that dirty little secret just between us. I am probably to blame for all the trouble in your life. What a joke, take some responsibility for your actions. Admit you stole my dogs!!!!!! if not, then produce some sort of PROOF to the contrary so that the world will know that you are indeed an honest woman.
I will be waiting for you to post some sort of documents that prove either I REFUSED to take back the dogs or you PAID in full for my dogs before you SOLD them. That is the main issue here. YOU STOLE MY DOGS!!!! You can try to divert attention away from that fact by writing all your gibberish but the truth remains. You are the only person who is guilty of a crime. YOU STOLE MY DOGS.
I refuse to waste any more of my time responding to your nonsense. I will just sit here looking for all that law enforcement to show up and arrest me.
#16 Consumer Comment
Response to deposit on Brenda's puppy
AUTHOR: aceswildkennel - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 14, 2012
So before you bring in that the puppy had so many deposits on him yada yada. He hasn't he had mine and then yours and then when you never finished paying him off. ( when someone doesn't fulfill there obligation to pay a puppy off a breeder has the right to keep the deposit. common sense.) he had the last n final who indeed got him..
#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company
JACKIE MARTAIN YOU ARE THE ONE AT FAULT!!
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
#18 Author of original report
PROVE it KELLY SCHRAM
AUTHOR: RR Bostons - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
1. How did I bring all these other breeders into your mess? I happened to have been contacted by one of them, not the other way around. I had no idea that you were buying dogs all over the country until someone else clued me in on your schemes.
2. Provide proof that you paid for the 2 dogs you acquired from me.
3. Provide proof that I sold you a sick dog.
4. Provide proof of anything you can find anywhere, in emails or on the internet or even in your imagination, where I have slandered or harassed you or your family members. I have indeed told my story as I did here on this website in order to stop other people from falling for your conniving stories, but everything I've written is factual. Slander implies telling a FALSE story and MAKING THINGS UP, actually, exactly what you are doing to me and the other breeders you are accusing of being part of this "Dog Crime Ring."
Feel free to copy and paste any shred of evidence that I have done something wrong. I am more than happy to post the contract you signed, the copy of the check written on a closed account, 28 pages of emails between us where you assure me you love my dogs and will make good on the bad check, a copy of the Craigslist ad in which you sold my dogs, a letter from the woman who purchased my dogs stating that she took them to the vet the very day she acquired them and neither one was sick or in need of an immediate expensive surgery, or anything else that you'd like me to make public to prove what a liar you are.
I have no idea why you feel the need to bad mouth a group of boston terrier breeders who did nothing but attempt to work with you in finding you that perfect pet. YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE in this group who has actually done something WRONG! YOU STOLE MY DOGS and are now trying to pass the blame on everyone but yourself. Anyone with any sense about them will read what you have written and see right through you. I have a duty as a breeder to not only protect myself and my dogs but other breeders as well from people like yourself who prey on our kindness.
I know you will have nothing to post to collaborate your lies about me. Therefore, your non-evidence can serve as proof that everything I have stated about you in my initial report here as well as on Facebook and Puppyfind is 100% the truth.
I look forward to speaking with all the authorities you are sending my way to investigate my illegal activity. I am sure once I show them my evidence against you, it will only make it much easier to get the charges against you to stick. Thanks so much for helping me build my case. I appreciate it.
#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company
LISA ASHLOCK JACKIE BROUGHT YOU INTO THIS
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
#20 REBUTTAL Owner of company
In regards to me stealing deposits and reselling dogs
AUTHOR: Ashlock Yankee Bostons - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012
We entered into the agreement on May 15 to acquire Diamond, shortly after that Coal. I told her the deposit was $250 per pup and that I would accept a personal check so long as it cleared before 6 weeks of age, which at that point they are to be paid in full too. I also told her I accepted paypal. She kept giving me a story about some check being mailed to the wrong address and when it got there she would mail me a check. I finally received a money order for $400 instead of $500...I let it go because she was getting two of our pups. On May 26th she told me she would get the pups on June 11th. I got up early that day to take the pups to the vet so I could meet her 3 hours away with the pups only to find out her daughter, who is pregnant, had a doctors appointment she couldn't change. I let it go and we set another date and time being June 15 at 6...she wrote me at 4 a.m. that morning asking to change the time to a little later because she was unable to meet...I only said to her "I would rather keep it the same"...never said I wouldn't meet her. She responded back around 12 that day "well I guess we will have to do it another day then"...another day down for me because I had rescheduled to this date.,..at that point I had decided not to let her have the dogs, was going to send her deposit back and she threw a fit and told me how heartbreaking it was for her family who was looking forward to getting those new puppies. She told me about how she lost a chihuahua months before on a flight and how devastating it was...it tugged at my heart so I told her she had one more chance to get the pups...no changing the times. We had a very full schedule and was leaving on a trip so time was tight...she chose Friday June 29th at 7...I also told her I could not make the 3 hour drive but would meet her an hour away.
Around 4 or 5 that day I get a message from her saying they are stuck in traffic somewhere north of Joplin MO...she said their had been a bad wreck and traffic was at a standstill for hours. I told her that was fine, to let me know when they made it to Joplin and we would just meet her later...she responded it would be 10-12 that night...I told her that was fine...I would still meet....around 8 that night I get a text from her daughter saying they were in Joplin and needed to rest...I said that was fine, what time will you be in Clarksville? She said she didn't know...so I waited, and waited and waited....finally around 1130 I text her to see where they were...no response...at 1230 that night I get a very nasty email from her husband saying how inconsiderate I was and they wanted their money sent back immediately. I told them no, they did not show up for 3 times and it was not my fault on any of them. I told them to feel free to contact an attorney and they said they would contact our local sherif and report me. I told them to do what they felt they had to do. I then posted on my Facebook what had happened to let other breeders just beware and if they sold any dogs to them to go in with open eyes.
It was at that point that all these other breeders started telling me all their experiences with her. One lady even read me an email that is almost exactly word for word for the email Kelly had sent me. I will happily provide all documentation on any of this transaction along with many, many great references. I am not sure what this lady's problem is but she is the one who has done many dogs wrong...even tho this has turned into a huge hassle for me, I am forever grateful my pups did not go to that lady. I too failed my pups....
#21 REBUTTAL Owner of company
RR Bostons AKA Jackie Martain IS A CROOK!!
AUTHOR: TINY TOT Chihuahuas / Kelly Schram - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 13, 2012

