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Complaint Review: Todd L. Turoci

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  • Submitted: Sat, November 19, 2011
  • Updated: Sun, December 30, 2012

  • Reported By: Steve — Covina California United States of America
Todd L. Turoci
14895 Bear Valley Road Hesperia, California United States of America

Todd L. Turoci The Turoci Firm High Desert Absolute Rip Off Attorney Lawyer Firm Hesperia, California

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: "The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge."

*Author of original report: Facts are Coordinated - Phillip K. Evans will lose his California State Bar Credentials...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You facts are uncoordinated

*Consumer Comment: Really, Sounds like the writer is a Scammer

*Author of original report: I'm apart of the SEO Firm that was ripped off for the work that was poerformed!

*Consumer Comment: Law Firm

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The Todd Turoci Law firm looks like a nice and well to do lawyer outfit... But underneath is a bad operation with reports upon reports of emails from clients and now from newly acquired clients of ripping individuals off of their hard earned money. I would not be sending this report out if it wasn't for the numerous individuals who have no idea they can voice their concerns right here against a company or law firm who thinks they can just get away with taking from poor vulnerable individuals when facing bankruptcy. His firm along with another which was just bought by the Turoci law Firm - "Rapid Bk" - The Law Offices of Phillip Evans for $25,000.00 Supposedly. Greed runs high between the both firms and I ask to stay way clear of both for their unethical standings and ill concern of their clients. You have been warned, do not do business with either of these firms for they are completely unethical and immoral when dealing with your hard earned money especially when facing bankruptcy. [continued below]....
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I have numerous accounts of emails and contact lists of individuals who are very upset with both of these firms. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH EITHER LAW FIRM! You have been warned. I do not want you to end up writing an email later like this:

This message is for the Todd Turoci Law Firm & the Rapid Bk Law Firm, Mr. Evans, I can't believe you took our money left my family and I in such a mess, after doing everything you asked for and paying the full amount of almost $ 1,900 which i didn't have but had to borrow from my son's college money, I'm so upset that you didn't have the decency to let us know or had someone else really help us, now this firm (The Todd Turoci Law Firm) that's to help us wants an additional $ 500 witch I do not have. I can not believe there is still people out there taking advantage of those of us that are most in need.

Why would these individuals still be able to work? Shouldn't they be locked up in jail? They steal and rob those less fortunate and just keep taking everyday. Please stop them as soon as possible by not using there services. Thank You

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/19/2011 10:11 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Todd-L-Turoci/Hesperia-California-92395/Todd-L-Turoci-The-Turoci-Firm-High-Desert-Absolute-Rip-Off-Attorney-Lawyer-Firm-Hesperia-799995. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

"The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge."

AUTHOR: Phil Junior - (USA)

"The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge."

Case in point: "The point here is this; you can blame others (Speaking to Phillip K. Evans & HIS FAMILY..."

And his family?

Oh, please tell us how "his family" had anything to do with the management of the firm, that is:

LIST AND DELINEATE the pieces of evidence by which you conclude that FAMILY MEMBERS of Phillip Evans had any participation in any alleged, WILLFUL intent to commit fraud by Phillip K Evans.

If you cannot, then you are a hypocrite and a liar.
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#2 Author of original report

Facts are Coordinated - Phillip K. Evans will lose his California State Bar Credentials...

AUTHOR: voice4thunder - (United States of America)

After hearing of this lawyer (Phillip K. Evans) coming back to take even more individuals hard earned cash; Many clients that were ripped off started posting about Phillip K. Evans and how he had taken their retainer fees, money for services not performed, like (Bankruptcy - Chapter 7 & Chapter 13 Bankruptcies). (See below for all the clients comments of Phillip K. Evans ripping them off)

Phillip K. Evans & Todd Turoci; were also caught with their pants down by four Judges of Riverside County California looking into this case. The individual judge who took on their lawsuit case told both of them to reconsider trying to
sue one another, they both had no idea why a judge would tell both of them to quit and move on... The third party that was not involved in their inside contract deal (which was not a legitimate contract) between the both of them for the intellectual property and law client prospects, had moved on and could care less of the chump change they both were bickering over. The point is made! They are both out to get your money and will take every opportunity to swindle,
intimidate, or manipulate their way into taking from you.

Take for example: Phillip K. Evans goes into a fraudulent contract with The Todd Tuoci Law Firm for Rapidbk.com and all his law firm assets at the time. But little did Todd Turoci know that Phillip K. Evans kept well over $100,000 dollars in client referrals and client prospects, which he brought to another attorney to squeeze out as much as he could from the potential clients he received ($30,000) for. Only thru the hard work of the lawyer marketing individual - Brian Cholewiak doing his SEO, SEM, Google Adwords, backlinking and the promoting of Phillip K. Evans in high traffic areas of Google, Yahoo & MSN. With first page positions any bankruptcy lawyer would love to have like Riverside County Bankruptcy Attorney, Lake Elsinore Bankruptcy Attorney, Palm Springs Bankruptcy Attorney, Rancho Cucamonga Bankruptcy Attorney & many other cities all over the Inland Empire & Riverside county cities,  thru a network built from the ground up in a very short amount of time.

Where is he now? Burnt bridges leave you stranded!

The point here is this; you can blame others (Speaking to Phillip K. Evans & his family, & The Todd Turoci Law Firm) after the fact of the aftermath that you caused thru manipulation and ignorance of the business of law in the 21st century thru powerful internet lawyer marketing! When you have a good system that pulls in potential clients on automation for your law business, you should take into consideration how that system was built and created. With evaluation, forms and phone calls coming in and charts, analytic data, and information that show the proof of hard work paying off by the third party involved; Brian Cholewiak building out not just a site; (RapidBk.com). No a network of over a thousand sites that helped propel Phillip K. Evans to heights and potential of even greater success if he only knew what he was doing when going into a fraudulent business contract deal with The Todd Turoci Law Firm. He will never see in his lifetime again that kind of potential to grasp a well-run automation of potential legal prospects again. Sheer ignorance and greed took front and center stage with this poor decision they both now surely regret.

Moral of the story: Quit using individuals good talents who are helping you succeed for your own gain and look to learn business skills that stop you from  finding yourself in the rut that your in now after many individuals you blame for the problems you created for your own gain.

Take 100% Responsibility for Your Life In a society where people blame everything from their parents to the government for failure, those who do not buy into this mentality or succumb to the victim thinking succeed. To blame
something or somebody outside yourself is saying they have control of your life and not you. Someone elses opinion of you does not have to become your reality.

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Cindy

Posted on 06/12/12

First met this firm in Palm Springs in 2009. After paying $2099.00 that  office closed. Still have not been able to locate him other than a new number where someone is taking messages for him. I have been told he is etiring from law, but wants to finish serving his current customers! He is reportedly having some medical issues, but is now working AS A PHARMACIST! I would just like my money back. Any info out there would be appreciated, or suggestions.

John Posted on 01/19/12

 I have had the same bad experience with Phillip K. Evans. He took my payments (over $1,000) for six months and then disappeared -- offices closed and emptied overnight. If any others with the same experience would contact me, perhaps
collectively we could have an effect. .Maybe get our money back. Or, at least, stop Mr. Evans from hurting other innocent and vulnerable people. Call me. John Rollow, 760-586-3082



Joe

John, I found him on BAR you can call him at the office number listed
951-244-1476

01/19/12



Cindy

Posted on 11/29/11

This lawyer took my money and disappeared. Still has not returned the money and
cannot be found. DO NOT use this firm!



Merchant Circle Comments:



"He is a complete scammer! Walked right out on my family and I for
$1246.00 and the rapidbk.com site is down with no evidence of him ever working
as a lawyer! What is this I'm seeing this all over the web now? He looked good
before I gave my money now I'm out of hard earned cash and filing my
bankruptcy. Sign of the times I guess. Someone do something about this!"

Client , Dec 3 2011 4:42PM



"Mr. Evans did the same to me.

After initial consult, he took my retainer fees and went out of business

and didn't return my money."Customer, Nov 30 2011 1:22AM



"Do not use Phillip K. Evans service!!!! Ever!!! He will rip you off and

take from you. He has ripped plenty off in the past and needs to be

stopped! This message is for Mr. Evans, i can't believe you took our

money left my family and i in such a mess, after doing everything you

asked for and paying the full amount of almost $ 1,900 which i didn't

have but had to borrow from my son's college money, I'm so upset that

you didn't have the decency to let us know or had someone else really

help us, now this firm that's to help us wants an additional $ 500 witch

i don't have. i can believe there's steel people out there taking

advantage of those of us that are most in need."

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You facts are uncoordinated

AUTHOR: Phil Junior - (United States of America)

RapidBK was indeed sold for $25,000.00

However, Todd refused to pay it,  leaving Phillip financially strapped so that he could not reimburse his clients.

As an ex-employee, I can testify that other employees were stealing money from Phillip's RapidBK firm.

In fact, it must be public record, since one of those employees was arrested and put on probation for stealing thousands from BK,

The only real problem that my father Phillip K Evans has, is that he tends to be surrounded by scum who only want to rip him off.

One fellow had the nerve to mention my mom, Phillip's wife, as though she were involved with the company, and she wasn't involved with it at all! This same man who, while a child, she frequently cared for in his youth.

Why did I mention that? I want you to understand the ilk of the individuals who have spoken against Phillip Evans.

They are either unaware of the facts, or they are of the same ilk as the liars, thieves, and manipulators that have  surrounded my father.

My address is available upon request.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Really, Sounds like the writer is a Scammer

AUTHOR: LegalProYo - (United States of America)

It would appear that you are targeting the wrong person in your complaint. Specifically, it appears that everything that you are currently complaining about has to do with Phillip K. Evans aka the Law Office of Phillip K. Evans (who is apparently still in business). It would appear, that Todd L. Turoci attempted to assist Phillip K. Evans with his bankruptcy practice. If you have a legitimate complaint do not pretend that you know about the situation while running to the internet to complain.

This guy is apparently full of it and not knowing of the situation.



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#5 Author of original report

I'm apart of the SEO Firm that was ripped off for the work that was poerformed!

AUTHOR: voice4thunder - (United States of America)

We do not need any firm or any lawyer, attorney, law firm or business for that matter ripping off those less fortunate or trying to make a living in this day and age by ripping individuals off. Just to put you on some understanding. The evaluation form on he Rapid Bk website pulls in roughly $12 to $24,000.00 dollars a month on a slow month to 24 to $65,000.00 on a good month (Can Vary dependent on Sales Staff). Now that evaluation form was built and distributed by the SEO company which pays for it's database and also is used by other attorney websites as well, which performs like mentioned above. I'm only mentioning what needs to be done because of unethical dealings between a b2b relationship.

The site was mentioned to have been soled for $25000.00 and no money or no concern to the SEO company who was one month before this ripped off for $2500.00 from their PayPal account by the Phillip Evans Law Firm bank CitiBank and is well documented. That $2500.00 made the Rapid Bk site go from 3 million in the Alexa rank to as low as 7 hundred thousand which made for better performing month in august for the Law firm in the Riverside, San Bernardino, Orange County and Los Angeles county areas, which is well documented as well. This site would be of no concern or of no need to be sold if it wasn't performing. Why would you want to buy say Todd Turoci's Web site that doesn't even rank which means it doesn't perform vs. Rapid Bk which performs and brought in the many evaluations and accounts that Phillip Evans and Todd Turoci exchanged for a measly $25000.00?

SEO performing Marketing & Advertising companies are being ripped off all the time because of the new niche market and the understanding of how to pay out for performance. Now when you see individuals being ripped off do you help these individuals and stop this kind of unethical dealings with businesses and individuals? The SEO Company I work for is still in debt over this $2500.00 plus the work and time involved with another massive site for $7500.00 (SoCalProLaw) that was just thrown to the wayside by no concern by the mentioned attorneys above. This all cost money and time for individuals and SEO firms to accomplish for their clients. Now why would you destroy a site that out performs your own site by 500%? This was so unethical and straight arrogant in dealings with clients and b2b relationships. Now with that and the many clients who were involved with these two attorneys I think you have something here. All Documented!
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AUTHOR: Lorenzen - (U.S.A.)

I am interested in one thing - Exactly WHAT has this law firm done to YOU ???  You claim that this attorney and his firm are the scum of the Earth, but NOWHERE in your diatribe against him, his firm, or the firm he allegedly purchased, do you mention WHAT they have done to you, WHY they did it, nor HOW they accomplished it.  Details, please.  This report is USELESS without the facts.
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