- Report: #419238
Complaint Review: Tom Chaffee - Thomas Chaffee - Dux - Duxboats, Dux Boats, Liars
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Tom Chaffee - Dux - Duxboats - Dux Boats Liars liars inflatable productions Riverside california
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: dux-sux
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: wow the absolute lies from these self proclaimed christians
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Canadian Blew Up Tube
*Consumer Comment: Exploding Dux
*UPDATE Employee: Your web site is a hoax!
*Consumer Comment: DUX boats are great boats and I have had a positive experience dealing with Mr. Thomas Chaffee
*Consumer Comment: Tom we are going to trial!All of you! You have a tiger by the tail and I am is pissed!
*Consumer Comment: One more for the books Tom! Where's the money?
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: You are going to get your wish Tom! And alot more!
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: YOUR PAPERWORK IS NOT GOING TO BACK THIS UP PAUL. BRING IT ON LETS SEE THE PAPERS. LETS SEE THE FINANCIALS PAUL. POST THEM WHY DON'T YOU?
*Consumer Comment: You can lie to some of us but not everyone
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: One time Rebuttal e-mailed from Joan Chaffee to set facts straight
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: This letter is a fraud. Please contact me personally if you would like the truth about Mr. Paul Koontz. 951-552-5679
*Consumer Comment: More!
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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:11 AM
Subject: Tom
Sorry to send so many e-mails. I am not especially computer proficient and that was the only way I knew to send Tom's e-mails. There is a doctor in Florida that Tom scammed out of over$100,000 a few years back. She hired him to make an inflatable vest for patients so that when they fall they wouldn't get hurt. Tom dragged the whole thing out and finally refused to give her the prototype until she gave him more money which she refused to do. I did have info on that here somewhere and when (if) I find it I will forward to you. I know there are many others, but we tried to stay out of his dealings. If it will help I will send a copy of our promisory note Tom signed. I should tell you, Tom had already told us months ago that he was thinking of filing bankrupcy again. Sara already did, too, a year or so ago. Now that things have gone south with you, we are sure that he will do it again just to get you and us off his back. Can we do anything to keep him from doing that? We didn't fight Sara because we knew she would never be able to pay anyway, but we really don't want Tom to get away with it. As for Sara, I was hesitant to say too much yesterday, but I would be very careful with her as well. She gets upset with Tom and tells him anything that she thinks will get him upset, even if it is out of context. She is emotionally unstable and has been since before she married Tom. IWe believe they were married because Sara had a sizable allimony income from her former husband and that was what Tom and Sara lived off. Her check is no longer coming and that was when talk of separation/divorce began. This is the third marriage that Tom has used wives until they no longer benefited him. However, Sara cleaned out her first husband and was stealing money from Dux for many years. It is believed that she has a savings account in upper Michigan with a great deal of money in it, but that is not verified. All in all, you are dealing with two people that I would be very wary of. Sara likes to play the martyr, which is probably why she married Tom in the first place. We are sorry for the problems Tom has put you through and hope you can get justice. Both Dick and I agree that what you are doing is the right thing. He must be stopped from doing this to more people. If we can help you in any way, please let us know. Keep us informed on your progress, we are truly interested. Joan and Dick Chaffee
Joan chaffee
Perry, Michigan
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
dux-sux
AUTHOR: brogreg - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 29, 2012
POSTED: Sunday, April 29, 2012#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company
wow the absolute lies from these self proclaimed christians
AUTHOR: brogreg - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
POSTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011nice try
you manufacture and sell junk and yes it had all those seam leaks from new
it wouldn't hold air over night
nice to wake up to a new deflated boat every morning
a pressure gauge was used at all times
just re read your post it's a pathetic grasp at covering your a*ses
everyone who reads this can see i did not claim it blew up at the seam
i said it leaked air at every seam ,pay attention
how was i right in that you were willing to help
you offered nothing and plenty of it
so no help needed from you but thanks for the empty offer
you told me you were anew company and couldn't offer me any more than a small discount on a new boat
yet your adds mention 20 + years in business
your instructions claim the pump is designed to pop off at 6psi
it's in the instructions
that's an absolute lie
show me the engineering standard of the pump supplied that shows it works in conjunction with that particular valve
you can't because you lied again
so you should have put in your heading
Canadian suckered by Dux boats scam artists
#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Canadian Blew Up Tube
AUTHOR: Dismay - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 05, 2011
POSTED: Tuesday, July 05, 2011#4 Consumer Comment
Exploding Dux
AUTHOR: brogreg - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 07, 2011
POSTED: Monday, June 06, 2011they claim that the pump is designed to automatically pop off at 6 psi i contacted the pump manufacture regarding there pump and the valves used in the dux and no such function was designed into the pump the inner bladder instructions were inflate like a pillow when i contacted dux i was told to send it back at my expense $700 both ways i eventually was able to figure out how to repair it myself the second spring i was getting it ready as per the instructions and it exploded violently
once again send it back at my expense i requested a new boat and was told that because they were a new company the best they could do was sell me a new boat with a very small discount
I've read more than one article stating tom invented the inflatable cat
Im sure the Australians and south Africans would find that interesting
#5 UPDATE Employee
Your web site is a hoax!
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 12, 2009
POSTED: Tuesday, May 12, 2009#6 Consumer Comment
DUX boats are great boats and I have had a positive experience dealing with Mr. Thomas Chaffee
AUTHOR: Nm3 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 20, 2009
POSTED: Friday, March 20, 2009By happenstance, I ended up doing business with and buying a boat from Mr. Thomas Chaffee of Dux Boats. The transactions went great, and I have nothing but great things to report about the quality of the boats and the relationship with Mr. Chaffee.
Before I entered into any transactions, I came up on this report; I did some due dlligence and found nothing else other than the slander in this site.
I proceeded cautiously with my business deals with Mr. Chaffee and have checked the quality of the boat thoroughly (they're built like a vault).
If you're looking for one of these boats, the Dux I got from Mr. Chaffee could not be better quality or more fun, the advice/honesty I got from him was sound. I highly recommend the Dux brand, the owner, Mr. Chaffee, and the relationship.
BTW, I did talk to other owners that were all very happy with their boats and echoed my sentiments.
#7 Consumer Comment
Tom we are going to trial!All of you! You have a tiger by the tail and I am is pissed!
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 16, 2009
POSTED: Monday, March 16, 2009No friend of mine has ever hurt and used me like you Tina and Sam! How could any of you do this to me! I do not like any of you anymore! As the bills come in that I did not have before I knew you and Sam and having to pay them you can bet I hate you more and more.
86,000 dune buggy and boat
50,000 credit line
15,000 credit line
26,000 credit line
100,000 from the SBA to pay the bills you left me with
Interest I have to pay on all that?
Cash I gave out 10,000 +
You choose to lie about me and my wife too! If someday I break your nose I hope you will understand!
I pray you all will sleep on this and remember I was there for you when you needed it!
If someone did this for me, I would be kissing their ass and doing what ever I could to pay them back!
We are watching what you will do! In a short while you shall be getting something that will change your life!
You can come clean or live with dirty hands.
I pray you choose wisely so maybe we can be friends again and your world be blessed! Amen!
From: Thomas Chaffee [mailto:tom@duxboats.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:33 PM
To: Koontz, Paul
Subject: RE: Isaiah 65:24
HI Paul,
This is meant for me and now is joined with all other slanderous, flat out Lies you have told to many people. (witness list) Posted in places they will remain for ever and be ready for the countersuit that I guarantee will keep you very busy and broke. I will be attacking your Liability insurance and if they do not pay, then you will bankrupt, but the new laws say, you send me a payment plan every month. Slander and defamation is proved when the published lies do not match the known by all truth. Sea wolf will be included as well, as it is now proven very tightly they were coaching you on how to destroy me.
You asked me to keep your wife out of it, yet you lied to my Step Mother, My Mom, Tina, Myself, and to your own self to the point of believing your lies. You told untrue stories that you got from others that are one-sided.
Tina was on the phone with you when you asked her to tell me to get my things and get out of your building. I waited a day and in fact talked to you on that recorded date Wednesday, when you admitted you jumped the gun and thought the worst. Ben is aware of the contents taken and he asked why we only took what was ours and not even all that. I do not steal.
Ron Schuler is a happy man, he has his beautiful boat and visits us now on two occasions. He says, Tom told me he was going to California and with a friend he would get his long over due boat. He further says, Paul told him he would get him his boat. Paul quit. Then it was Tom and Tina back in the picture, and Tina made the decision to hurt no one and get him the boat.
I will also be suing for all Dux components used on boats that were the proprietary products of Dux and dux is owed for these. I calculate that you at best put 70% into the California boats, and the reaming 30% was Dux property that never got paid for and neither did the labor from Dux personal trained employees. They did not get pay either.
I did not advise you to hock your belongings listed below,
86,000 dune buggy and boat
50,000 credit line
15,000 credit line
26,000 credit line This bought Sandjacks as evidenced in your paid invoice still has a balance with a balance still owed.
100,000 from the SBA to pay the bills you left me with. I left with my belongings only. I never left you with bills. You said you reported the truck stolen you let me use for business and I needed to drop it off. I do not owe your bills. They were yours solely and spent by you solely, never listening to what was right, proven by history. The agreement for DUX CA., company, I WAS NEVER ADDED TO AS PROMISED.
Interest I have to pay on all that? Lesson learned I hope. I will pray you drop the anger, because I will simply state, if you attempt punch me in the nose, you will only have one hand/arm to ever use again! Do not threaten me. Grow up and get it right. Do the true thing Paul. Or the courts will easily remind you of the truth at an additional cost to you.
Cash I gave out 10,000 + I personally received a 1099 for you for $450.00
You have not gotten my bill or the labor OWED AND OR THE COMPONENTS DUX BROUGHT AND WAS SOLD IN YOUR COMPANY WITH NO MONEY EVER PAID TO DUX. The labor board is next if you continue to hurt all of us. They have been made aware, and they want more forms and illegal activity is at hands, both for all of us and Sam as well.
I have been choosing wisely Paul.. Full documentation is backup-up and in Attorneys hands. You do not do this to Men women and children, or the State of California.
Come to the truth, it will set you free. Do not be a fool. Read Proverbs Paul
So I ask everyone that reads Tom and I's story and think before you ever give anyone a single dime! This law suit is going to cost me over 100K not counting what I have given up to help these jerks, Tom I shall do what ever it takes to stop you from hurting anyone else even if it kills me! By the way you are one lying pig and I can prove it! I can hardly wait!It's funny when I talk to you on the phone you have a different story?
Regards,
Paul Koontz
#8 Consumer Comment
One more for the books Tom! Where's the money?
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 12, 2009
POSTED: Thursday, March 12, 2009I recieved this in july of 2008 from Ron! One wonders what is going on? More to come Tom! SMD!
#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company
You are going to get your wish Tom! And alot more!
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 09, 2009
POSTED: Monday, March 09, 2009#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company
YOUR PAPERWORK IS NOT GOING TO BACK THIS UP PAUL. BRING IT ON LETS SEE THE PAPERS. LETS SEE THE FINANCIALS PAUL. POST THEM WHY DON'T YOU?
AUTHOR: The Rest Of The Story - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 06, 2009
POSTED: Friday, March 06, 2009Thomas Chaffee
#11 Consumer Comment
You can lie to some of us but not everyone
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 28, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, February 28, 2009#12 REBUTTAL Individual responds
One time Rebuttal e-mailed from Joan Chaffee to set facts straight
AUTHOR: The Rest Of The Story - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 26, 2009
POSTED: Thursday, February 26, 2009I love you anyway Joan, and I understand and forgive. I pray people will be blinded to the actions of people like paul and I pray more so for his children who are being hurt and neglected by his obsession to destroy me, a man he called his best freind.
Joans email to me this morning.
What a shock to find a personal communication posted on the internet for millions to read!This e-mail was written in response to a series of communications between myself and Paul during which I was told a great deal of disturbing information about Tom and Dux Boats. Because we are going through a very rough time ourselves, partly because of a personal financial arrangement between Tom and ourselves, I was especially vulnerable. Having only heard one side (Paul's) of the situation, I allowed myself to get drawn into this failed business endeavor's mudslinging. That was a mistake on my part. Being a senior citizen, having lived over 3/4 of my life I should have known better than to presume to know what is going on in someone elses life. If Tom did something illegal, Tom should be held responsible. If Tom didn't, then the matter should be dropped. Paul tried every avenue he could think of legally to find wrongdoing on Tom's part. Evidently he was unable to find any legal wrongdoing. It appears the situation is a matter of a business deal going bad, for several reasons. It is easy to put the entire blame on one person, but that is not usually the case. Like in a marriage, it takes two, It is time for Paul to accept responsibility for his actions, as Tom has done, and move on. It appears childish to continue this vindetta for almost a year when there is no concrete evidence that one person is totally responsible for the failure of their joint business venture. On top of that, to drag in a family member who has no first-hand knowledge of the situation is underhanded to say the least. I accept my responsibility in allowing myself to get involved, but it is time for Paul to grow up and accept his. I don't want to get into a rebuttal match with anyone on this matter. It is between Tom and Paul. So please don't try to pull me into this. I only want to set the record straight as far as my involvement in this matter is concerned.
Joan Chaffee
2-26-2009
p.s. I have tried typing a response to this, but it isn't working. If I send one to you can you send it for me? I am going to try it anyway.
Love Joan
#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds
This letter is a fraud. Please contact me personally if you would like the truth about Mr. Paul Koontz. 951-552-5679
AUTHOR: The Rest Of The Story - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009Thank you,
Thomas Chaffee
Dux Inflatables
www.duxboats.com
1-951-552-5679
#14 Consumer Comment
More!
AUTHOR: Paul Koontz - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 04, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, February 04, 2009To: tom@duxboats.com
Subject: Re:
Tom, IWe were very disappointed and extremely upset to read your comments on this last e-mail. For YEARS you have admitted your responsibility to pay us back the money you owe us. You even signed a promisory note admitting such! You have made promise after promise to us about repayment without any follow through. You have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on THINGS that you didn't really need just because you thought it was a "good deal". You lied to us about not getting that loan in Corunna, we KNOW you did and just left it with the Lord. We prayed that the Holy Spirit would convict you of your deception, especially to your parents, but it seems you have hardened your heart so much that He can't get through to you. You can continue to lie to us about not getting loans from Corunna, or not buying unnecessary equipment, etc. but we know and have known for a long time that you were not being honest with us. We saw the three riding lawn mowers, two fork lift trucks, etc. that you spent thousands of dollars on instead of paying us anything. You have left a trail of devasted lives here in Michigan, both emotionally and financially. Now you try to talk your way out of repaying OUR RETIREMENT money by saying that we agreed with Sara to refinance the house. You know that we didn't even know you had done that until almost a year after it was done and then we found out because we tried to put a lien on the house. HOW COULD YOU SAY SUCH A THING? The thing that hurts more than anything is the fact that you have hurt people who loved you repeatedly and you don't have any conscience about it. You say you are a Christian and you quote scripture verses to sound righteous. Your life is totally contratictory to your words. You do not live scripturally and all the words in the world won't change that. You need to SERIOUSLY consider your salvation. A Christian does not leave a trail of devastation in their wake. You can blame everyone else like you usually do, but that doesn't change the fact that you have hurt everyone you have been in business with, as well as your family. You are not doing right and the Lord will never bless that. We have helf out hope that you would come around and start doing right, but you have hit an all time low in these comments to us. May God deal with you. Joan and Dad
Joan
Inflatable Boats and Products, LLC.
503 S. Shiawassee St. Tel: (989) 743-8090
Suite #1 Corunna, MI. 48872 Fax: (989) 743-8040
Website: http://www.duxboats.com Toll Free: (866) 842-7663
Bobby M.
Stone Mountain, GA. 30087
December, 22nd, 2004
Bobby,
As you know the check that was written to you, for contracted services in the amount of $4,000.00, was returned to you for NSF reasons. Due to receiving the same type of payments from three different customers (NSF) it is out of our control at this time.
I want to say I am sorry this has happened and that we are working on a resolution to the problem in a frantic way. The holiday season only makes it worse for all involved. Your service to this company is by no means deserving of this type of treatment and we will do our best to have a replacement check (certified) by the years end or shortly thereafter. In a worse case regardless of the funding opportunity coming your way we will have this issue of the NSF CHECK taken care of by the 15th of January through rental income funds due to a personal company of ours.
I pray as always for your understanding in all matters and look forward to a speedy resolution to the problems that have been created due to this problem.
In regards to the balance that is owed, which, and that is a completely different matter, we will also square up on this with you if the needed funding comes through as discussed in early January. However all things are still outstanding. We will of course trust that you will complete your part as well (DuPont Registry, etc..). Your gamble will pay off as all of our gambles will when the funding is approved. So needless to say of coarse, I cannot guarantee the payment of any other payments or earnings at this time other than the NSF check by the date of the 15th as stated above I believe we are some where in the debt area of $15,000.00 which is inclusive of a total 1-Dux Hammerhead,1- trailer and the NSF Check first mentioned above.
As hard as it may seem at this time, please have a Merry Christmas and a great Holiday season despite this expensive and troubling set back.
Sincerely,
Thomas Chaffee
President
Dux Inflatable Boats and Products, LLC.
Website www.duxboats.com
E-Mail tom@duxboats.com
Tel: 989-743-8090
This is still not handled! 2009! And Tom sold his boat and trailer!

