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  • Submitted: Mon, May 24, 2010
  • Updated: Sat, April 14, 2012

  • Reported By: Rob — United States of America
TopK2.com
, Indiana United States of America

TopK2.com TopK2.com, Top K2, Top K2 Incense topk2, top k2, topk2.com, k2 incense, k2 incense scam, fake k2 incense, counterfeit k2, not real k2 Internet, Indiana

*Consumer Comment: Haters suck

*General Comment: Buyer from TopK2

*Author of original report: Be nice, let's work together then!

*Consumer Comment: More Info on Alexandre Dimov

*Author of original report: Huh?!?

*Consumer Comment: Sounds like Alexandre Dimov and his B.S. to me

*Author of original report: Topk2 owner is a crook and a liar

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: TOPK2.com Ripoff Response

*Author of original report: TopK2.com is a scam! Fake K2 products, LIE ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT! Say it's natural, when everyone knows it's laced with chemicals!!!

*UPDATE Employee: 100% Money Back Guarantee

*Author of original report: TopK2.com is a scam! Fake K2 products, LIE ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT! Say it's natural, when everyone knows it's laced with chemicals!!!

*UPDATE Employee: Slander is not the way

*Author of original report: TopK2.com is a fraudulent company

*UPDATE Employee: Bad report

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Topk2.com AKA Top K2 is an apparent scam operation. I placed an order for 3g of the K2 Summit drug with them.  Received it rather quickly. When I opened the package I noticed the product looked nothing like the original K2 I used to buy back in 2009 from my local store. Sadly no stores in my town stock K2 any more so I had to resort to the internet. Not only is the K2 herbal mix not the same as the original one i used to buy back in the day but the chemicals they use to lace over the product seem to be also different. The K2 Summit I received was weak and with a heavy smell of chemicals. You could even see the white powder they use to lace the herbs with which is unusual for an authentic K2 product. I used to buy K2 for many months back in 2009 so I can call myself somewhat of an expert and I can assure anyone reading this that this K2 blend is not an original or genuine K2 product. My roommate in college is an organic chemist and has access to our school's lab so I'll be giving this product to him for analysis to find out what they are lacing it with because I can bet my life it is not the JWH-018 and JWH-073 of the real k2 blends. 
Anyway no big deal I only lost $29 bucks but would definitely not be ordering K2 from them and in fact from anyone else either, I just can't trust the K2 blends any more as it seems they re all freaking fake. Very disppointing. I'll be switching to Buzz probably or to plain ol' mary jane once my probation is over.  

For those who don't know the difference between the original K2 and this K2 they might even like it.  It definitely *works* just the feeling is completely different and far less intense of the original K2 Summit.  

Disappoing

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/24/2010 06:22 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/TopK2com/-Indiana-/TopK2com-TopK2com-Top-K2-Top-K2-Incense-topk2-top-k2-topk2com-k2-incense-k2-incen-606873. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Haters suck

AUTHOR: Lilli Dupre - (USA)

I truly support freedom of speech and opinion. However, the vitriole here from angry consumers is disturbing. TopK2 was the best of its kind, in my opinion. When I (only once in multiple orders) had an issue, I simply picked up the phone, dialed their number and spoke with the owner to resolve.

Not as much fun as trashing someone's business, is it?
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#2 General Comment

Buyer from TopK2

AUTHOR: Amber - (United States of America)

I have been buying from TopK2 for about 2 years now. I have 4 stores and TopK2 is the only place i have seen with AUTHENTIC K2.

I go through tons and tons of distributors every week and have only seen TopK2 to have the REAL K2. they have also never given me any issues, ripped me off, or anything of that sort!

This shouldn't even be on here as they are NOT a scam. I came across this "report" as i googled TopK2 to get back on they're website.. I seen this and HAD to give my opinion because it was really ridiculous reading that they are fraudulent or a scam.

TopK2 is the ONLY one i have seen that is NOT a scam.

And if they are willing to give 100% money back guarantee.. obviously they are confident with they're product... because trust me, a 100% money back guarantee is rare these days.

So... how is it a scam if they will refund 100% of your payment?
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#3 Author of original report

Be nice, let's work together then!

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

First, no need for name calling.  Kandy, Kendy, who gives a sh*t, probably neither is your real name anyway.  From your post I think it's clear you don't work for Topk2 and you want to take down the K2 scammers as much as I do.  That's good.  I've been a fan of K2 for a long time but with so many scammers now out there I'd rather see them all go down. You don't know who to trust those days. I assumed the kid was sold K2 from TopK2 since they claim to be the biggest and original distributor and retailer of k2 so it only makes sense. Especially reading all the other negative reports about their K2 and my own bad experience with their product. Anyway thanks for the info.  I'll report all those fucks, right along with TopK2 and anyone else I find involved in K2 schemes. If you're so resourceful why don't you find Topk2's details so we can take two birds with one stone?  I tried but can't find much about them. They've posted today a scam newsletter marketing their website and are using a "John Smith" as the owner of the company.. lol  Riiiiiiiiiight!  John Smith!  Sure! By the way one thing still puzzles me. Even from your latest post it still seems like you're protecting Topk2 and trying to damage only their competition. So I'm still not sure if I should really believe you that you're not the Topk2 owner himself. You seem to have no proof that "K T W" or "Alexandre Dimov" or anyone else has sold the K2 to that kid, other than the actual store he bought it from. So it's hard to believe your sincerity when you seem to be targeting one company and protecting another. Anyway I don't really care much either way.  All I know it Topk2 sold me a crap product and they've already paid for it. I reported them here, to the Better Business Bureau and to the Indiana DA so that should be good enough. 

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More Info on Alexandre Dimov

AUTHOR: Kendy - (United States of America)

You have to understand, "Rob", how easy it is to confuse you with Alex. You both write in the same emotionally stunted style with more than just a touch of hysteria. You both lie. That's right. You said topk2.com sold the K2 that caused David Rozga to kill himself. Outright lie. The K2 was bought from a store called Shag in the Southridge Mall in Indianola, Iowa. Was that also you who called David Rozga a "psycho" on Yahoo Answers? Well, I just dropped a line to Mike Rozga (David's father) to let him know that a target of his anti K2 crusade should be KTW Enterprises LTD. You shouldn't care if you're not Alex, right?

Also, try reading some of the posts on this site. I am not a business owner. I have always posted under only this name (it's not "Kandy"; learn to read moron) and have only exposed one person - Alexandre Dimov and all his scam businesses.

That being said, Sebastian asked before how to take Alex down. I wasn't very specific, so allow me to go into more detail.

A lot of the controversy over who has the right to market K2 seems to center around who sold it first and KTW Enterprises, LTD is claiming they sold it first. I call bullshit. Let me direct your attention to this web page:

http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detl?p_be_rsn=1436956&p_srce=BR_INQ&p_print=FALSE

On the Oregon Secretary of State, Corporation Division site, a search of KTW Enterprises, LTD reveals that Articles of Incorporation were filed on 2/2/10. The registry number is 662143-97.

So this company has only been in existence since 2/2/10 and claimed on their trademark application (remember, the trademark is in the name of KTW Enterprises, LTD) that they have been selling K2 incense since 3/27/09. Smells like fraud to me.

Also, the trademark is for K2 in the category "incense". There is nothing to stop anyone for filing for a similar, although slightly different, trademark, i.e. "K2 herbal incense", etc.

K2 is rapidly becoming outlawed across the U.S. Eventually, the name will become a burden to anyone's business rather than an asset anyway. With the tragic death of David Rozga of Iowa, a campaign to ban K2 (similar to the campaign to ban salvia after the suicide of Brett Chidester) will sweep across the country. Actually, it began months ago and is picking up speed.

Keeping that in mind, those who would like to report Alex and KTW Enterprises, LTD, should do so to the Oregon Department of Consumer and Business Services. Their e-mail is: dcbs.info@state.or.us. If you want to go straight to the top, the Director is Cory Streisinger and his e-mail is: dcbs.director@state.or.us.

Tell them that Alex has set up shop in their backyard dealing a deadly and controversial substance known as K2 incense. It is a hot topic with legislators everywhere. A recent news story about the growing popularity of K2 in Oregon may well have some lawmakers looking to nip it in the bud before it becomes a major problem for them. The DCBS can dissolve the corporation if it finds the corporation is engaged in illegal or questionable activities. If the corporation is dissolved and the trademark was granted to that corporation, it is invalid.

With as many people as Alex has pissed off with his lies and false accusations, it is kind of amazing that someone hasn't rented a botnet and launched a DDOS attack against his sites. Who knows? Maybe someone already has. Maybe they will. Stay tuned.

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#5 Author of original report

Huh?!?

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

Oh that's rich! No douche, I'm not "Alexandre Dimov" I am not a "competitor" and I'm not your imaginary friend. And you keep on posting lies trying to shut me up I'll keep on reporting you. You just caused yourself a BBB report. 

Do you notice how this scammer replies each time as a "different" person? First he was an "employee" then he was the "owner" and now he's "kandy." Next he'll be Marilyn Monroe. That's because each time he replies he is caught in a lie.  So he pretends to be someone else to make it so it looks like the lie wasn't really a lie but "miscommunication." Right! 

I hope everyone you've done wrong reports you. The stuff isn't even legal in Indiana. You think because you're hiding in a "rural" area they won't find you. They will, trust me! The name Dvorak sounds familiar??  If not it will very soon.  
I wonder how many people you've murdered with your sh*t. We know at least one! And apparently there's a kid in Alabama who's still in a coma after two months!! All those deaths and grief just so you can buy another cow for your farm. Nice, real nice. 

Douchebag. 
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#6 Consumer Comment

Sounds like Alexandre Dimov and his B.S. to me

AUTHOR: Kendy - (United States of America)

Yes, you are a competitor with your fake network of "verified" K2 sites. You have already been exposed in other posts on this site. You used the same names - Rob and Jane - to libel your competitors on this site that you used on Yahoo Answers to spam your K2 websites and promote your bullshit about "counterfeit" K2.

You are not fooling anyone and I hope the owner of topk2.com uses the information available about you on this site (search reports for K2) to take legal action against you for libeling him and his company. No one believes you Alex. Give it up already.
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#7 Author of original report

Topk2 owner is a crook and a liar

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

BULL! I am not a competitor I am a customer who you did wrong. And apparently I am one of many. You don't even have the guts to post your real name in here. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously. You're a bunch of scammers. 

I've been buying K2 since 09 and you were nowhere to be found.  There were only a couple of websites selling back then.  Your product has very little to do with real K2. Anyone who's tried both would easily notice the difference. So stop lying and admit your guilt before you end up in prison. Already a kid in Iowa apparently has died because of the k2 they bought from you so it might be too late to escape prison.  And it's all over the news that the Indiana DA is after your asses so you better run. 

Case closed. Freaking crooks. 
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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

TOPK2.com Ripoff Response

AUTHOR: Top K2 Staff - (USA)


While we are a newer business using an even newer business model, our suppliers for our K2 product are original. They have been around since the beginning.  




We stem from a very rural community here in Indiana. With those humble beginnings, we have strong values and work ethic.  This ties in with our treatment of our customers during the entire ordering process.




We are very much a real company with real educated and trained employees.  We believe in our customer satisfaction. We believe so strongly that we offer a 100% no questions asked money back guarantee. To the best of our knowledge, no other firm offers this kind of customer support.




Obviously, our livelihood is dependent on building a solid customer base and having repeat business. We have thousands of repeat customers who similarly enjoyed our product and have returned to purchase more. 




As mentioned, we are not a part of any crime syndicate and believe very strongly about the rules of law.  We also follow this by doing what every real company in America does; we pay taxes. While we would like to discuss any and all issues that someone may have about our business, we are not going to waste our time replying to obvious sabotage. We now have proof this is from a well-known competitor.




Again, If you have any questions please give us a call at 1-888-48-TOPK2 or reach us online at info@topk2.com.




Thank you again for your time and we look forward to serving you soon.




Top K2 Staff

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#9 Author of original report

TopK2.com is a scam! Fake K2 products, LIE ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT! Say it's natural, when everyone knows it's laced with chemicals!!!

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

I URGE ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN HURT BY THIS COMPANY TO IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THEIR CREDIT CARD PROCESSOR AND DISPUTE THE CHARGES ON YOUR CARD!  I did more research on this criminal outfit and apparently they are currently being investigated by the Indiana Bureau of Investigation!  This is serious stuff, folks!  If you purchase from them, you probably won't receive anything any more, since they are about to seize their stock and put them all in prison, as they did with another seller of fake K2 product back in February.  The drug they are selling is apparently illegal in the state of Indiana due to their unique analog drug law!
 
Now on to his ridiculous claims:
 
"We are the largest internet distributor of K2 according to the marketing firm we are working with."
 
What does that even mean?!  How can a "marketing firm" know who is the largest K2 distributor?!  This doesn't make any sense and he's just trying to spread more lies and confusion.  Their internet traffic is only 0.00023 of total internet traffic, which is far below most other K2 websites.  So yet another lie he got exposed on!
 
"The person responding to these reports is the Top K2 manager, but not the owner of the business."
 
He just wrote this so that he can remove liability for his lies off the business.  When he gets sued he'll say "Oh Gee, I am just an employee, I just didn't know."  Right!
 
"Because of this websites rules, I can not give out my name, just ask for the manager." - LIE!  This website encourages openness and identifying yourself, so that your report or rebuttal is given more credibility.  He's not giving his name so that it's harder for him to get caught and imprisoned. 
 
"How can we be a 'scam' if you even said yourself you received quick shipping?"
 
Oh gee, thanks for the quick shipping!  So you're saying if I bought Nikes and spent $200 on them, only to later find out they were fakes made in China, I was NOT scammed?! 
 
"A scam is paying for something and not receiving it... "
 
Apparently this kid doesnt know the first thing about business.  What can you expect form a drug dealer...
 
"You posted this report instead of working with us in an attempt to deface our company name and we are STILL willing to work with you on fixing whatever problems you may have had."
 
But of course you are because you want to shut up the truth and keep on scamming people with your garbage product and your lies. 
 
You LIED that you're the first K2 store, You keep on LYING on your ads that you're the "Original" K2 Store, You LIED that you're the number 1 K2 distributor, You LIED that the product doesnt have chemical residue and crystals at the bottom of the pack, You LIED that your product is not laced with chemicals and is all natural - and for this one last lie, you'll be liable in both civil and criminal court because you're claiming your product to be all nautral and not laced with any chemicals, when the Kansas DEA tested it a few months ago and discovered JWH-018 in it!  That's why you don't ship it to Kansas. 
 
"if you want your money back FOR ANY REASON we will refund you.  That is a bold claim, and as far as I know none of our competitors offer it."
 
A simple search on other K2 websites shows that most of them do, so yet another lie. 
 
They offer the money back guarantee because they know most people would not divulge they use K2 as a drug and say "Hey Top K2 scammers, the K2 drug you sent me is not the same as the one I've been buying from my local store and it's not doing the job as well as the other stuff does."  So that's what their entire scam is based on. 
 
Bottom line, you LIE and your product has little to nothing to do with the real K2 Summit. It doesn't have any bay bean in it and the chems you spray it with is either a weak analog of JWH-018 or just a lot less of it.  The K2 Summit I am used to getting from my local store is 10 times stronger than the sh*t you sell. 
 
"I urge you not to listen to one person trying to attack our great business reputation for customer service and give us a call or shoot us an email."
 
They are confidence-men.  Silver tongues snakes! 
 
Well the good thing is they are getting shut down by the Indiana Bureau of Investigation, so whatever.  I'm glad I only lost $30 bucks and didn't lose my life smoking their poison, like some others probably have.  
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#10 UPDATE Employee

100% Money Back Guarantee

AUTHOR: Top K2 Staff - (USA)

This is the last time I'll respond to the attacks, however I want to make our customers feel safe.  We are the largest internet distributor of K2 according to the marketing firm we are working with.  The person responding to these reports is the Top K2 manager, but not the owner of the business.  You are welcome to call and speak to me anytime via our number at 888-488-6752.  Because of this websites rules, I can not give out my name, just ask for the manager.

How can we be a 'scam' if you even said yourself you received quick shipping?  A scam is paying for something and not receiving it... You posted this report instead of working with us in an attempt to deface our company name and we are STILL willing to work with you on fixing whatever problems you may have had. 

If you are ever, for any reason displeased with your order you can get your money back.  Something which the author of this report never requested.  We have a 100% money back guarantee.  That means if you want your money back FOR ANY REASON we will refund you.  That is a bold claim, and as far as I know none of our competitors offer it.

I urge you not to listen to one person trying to attack our great business reputation for customer service and give us a call or shoot us an email.  We will get back to you if its not during business hours and our office is closed.

Phone: 1-888-48-TOPK2 (86752)
Website: www.TopK2.com
Email: Due to this websites regulations you will have to get our email on our website.
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#11 Author of original report

TopK2.com is a scam! Fake K2 products, LIE ABOUT THEIR PRODUCT! Say it's natural, when everyone knows it's laced with chemicals!!!

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)

"Of course K2 has been around for years, it just hasn't been near as popular." 


This just goes to show you what kind of company TopK2.com is.  Instead of crawling back into their hole, after being exposed, they are back here spreading even more lies.  

As stated on the DEA's website K2 was created in March of 2009 and became popular in November of 2009.  




"We were the very first K2 website on the internet."



Incredibly bold lie.  I am in total shock that they would make such a ludicrous statement, considering there are millions of K2 users, who know the truth and there are public records of when the first K2 websites were created and when TopK2.com scam popped up.  



From the public records:



"Domain Name: TOPK2.COM


Created on: 26-Feb-10"
And yet they still insist on their fake Google ads that they are "The Original K2 Store"
Nice try. While I am not sure which websites were the first to start carrying the product, I know for a fact Arena Ethnobotanicals started selling it about a year before you. I used to buy from them till they stopped carrying it. I can assure you TopK2.com was NOWHERE to be seen back in the day.  That website is brand new and it's all recorded in the public databases.  

So maybe you can fool a few people, but anyone who knows the truth will expose you.  



I encourage anyone who's been burnt by this scam operation to post a report.  



"I can guarantee anyone reading this that there are no 'crystals'"



Too bad I threw your garbage where it belongs, in the trash, but if you can fool anyone else to buy your product they would see the chemical crystal residue on the herbs and at the bottom of the baggie.  



"I can guarantee anyone reading this that there are no 'crystals' anyway and it is not 'laced' with anything.  It is a herbal incense blend that hasn't changed since the beginning."



Another amazingly bold lie.  The product was tested by the DEA and was found to contain JWH-018.  A simple search of public records proves that.  Why do you think they state on their website that they don't sell their product in Kansas, Missouri, North Dakota, Kentucky and Georgia and other places?  Because the chemical they lace the herbs with is banned there.  None of the herbs contained in the mix are banned and the brand name is certainly not banned, the only thing banned is the chemical JWH-018.  



"If we did stand by our products we would not be responding here or giving out our phone number."  



False logic, but what else can you expect from a drug dealer scum.  Just like any good scammer they give you a phone number, so that they can sweet talk you into believing their K2 scam.  



Bottom line: TopK2.com does not sell the original K2 product. They are scammers peddling a dangerous fake "K2" laced with who knows what.  I don't even think it's JWH-018 because the effects from the drug were far less intense than from the original K2 Summit I'm used to. But then again they say their product is banned in Kansas, so I assume it is indeed JWH-018, but must be a less pure version.  Or perhaps it's an analog of JWH-018 which would still make it illegal in Kansas, but would explain the weak effects compared to the real stuff.  



I'm sure they've fooled a lot of people who don't know the difference, but no more.  I ask anyone who's been scammed by Topk2.com to post their experience. I would have gladly moved on after I wrote the first report, but for those morons to come back here and post SUCH BOLD LIES which anyone and everyone, even the dumbest person in the world knows it's LIES, it's just ridiculous and it motivates me even more to expose those scammers.  Too late for a refund.  Don't want your money, don't want your product.  All I want at this point is to tell the world about your scam. 




"Reports like this are a annoyance that larger companies have to deal with"



Large companies?  This outfit is a small family "business" ran out of Indiana.  A simple search of public record proves that.  

That's why on their website they hide their actual address because they know if the authorities knew where they are running this scam from they'd be arrested.  Too bad I threw the package the product was sent in, otherwise I would have loved to expose their real address, though I'm sure they are hiding behind a mailbox or some fake address anyway. 



"As for the writer of this report, you are welcome to contact us and speak with a manager."



If by "manager" you mean your mom, no thanks.  I'd rather speak to the Attorney General.  
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#12 UPDATE Employee

Slander is not the way

AUTHOR: Top K2 Staff - (USA)

Of course K2 has been around for years, it just hasn't been near as popular.  Just because you saw it a year ago doesn't mean that's when it started.  We were the very first K2 website on the internet (as far as we know).  The reason it says we've only been around since March is because that is when we had a major website launch.  As you can see on our homepage.  Our suppliers have been around for years.

I'm not exactly sure why you are trying to slander us, but I can guarantee anyone reading this that there are no 'crystals' anyway and it is not 'laced' with anything.  It is a herbal incense blend that hasn't changed since the beginning.

If we did stand by our products we would not be responding here or giving out our phone number.  You are welcome to call us and send your product back and receive a refund if you choose.  We offer a 100% money back guarantee.  You can buy our product and if you don't think it is what you want, send it back and we will give you your money back.

For anyone reading this, do not be scared away by someone who obviously has no clue what he is doing.  We've been here since the beginning and will continue to be in business for as long as K2 is legal.  Reports like this are a annoyance that larger companies have to deal with

If you have any questions please give us a call at 1-888-48-TOPK2.  You can find our email address at http://www.topk2.com since we are not supposed to post it in these reports.

As for the writer of this report, you are welcome to contact us and speak with a manager.
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#13 Author of original report

TopK2.com is a fraudulent company

AUTHOR: Rob - (United States of America)


"TopK2.com's suppliers have been using the same authentic recipe for many years."



Interesting, considering K2 has been around for less than one year.  Obviously this company got caught up in their own web of lies. 



"We've had 99.9% customer approval over the company's history with 6 RMA's in total over our entire lifespan."



ENTIRE lifespan?  Oh GEE!  You mean since last month?  A simple search shows that the website showed up beginning of March, not even 3 months and suddenly they are experts on "K2."  I stand behind what I said, the product they are selling is not authentic K2 and they are a bunch of fraudsters.  They didn't even care to do a good job masking the fake product with legit packaging. Anyone who's been buying K2 since the beginning knows what the real K2 packaging looks like. I hope no one else falls for this scam. Don't even bother calling them on the phone, they'd try to sweet talk their way out of anything.  

I wouldn't be surprised if they make the mix in their own house. The original K2 had an herbal feel, you couldn't even feel the chemicals. Their version is like a chemical bath and you can see the JWH-018 crystals. I just hope that's all they are lacing it with and not putting some other crap. 



I'm never buying K2 from the Internet again. Or from anywhere for that matter. Back to good ol' Mary Jane. 



Bottom line, avoid TopK2.com like the plague. I'm sure the Feds will shut them down when people start dying from smoking this chemical bath. 
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#14 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Top K2 Staff - (USA)

This report is not coming from a trusted source.  The poster here has only ever bought from one shop in a local store and thinks he is an expert.  TopK2.com's suppliers have been using the same authentic recipe for many years. Chances are he was getting some local blend from a fake supplier.  The customer received fast shipping and even tried the product and said it is fine.  We also have a 100% money back guarantee if you are not satisfied, on which he did not request.  We've had 99.9% customer approval over the company's history with 6 RMA's in total over our entire lifespan.  Not many companies can claim the same success and customer service.

If you would like to talk to a TopK2.com representative you can call 1-888-48-TOPK2 and we'd be glad to speak to anyone about our products or our company.
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