- Report: #228156
Complaint Review: Trinity College Of The Bible And Theological Seminary
| Trinity College Of The Bible And Theological Seminary 4233 Medwel Drive
Newburgh, Indiana U.S.A. |
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Trinity College Of The Bible And Theological Seminary Diploma Mill Scam elaborate and convincing until too late Ripoff Newburgh Indiana
*Consumer Comment: Trinity College and Seminary - Accreditation
*Consumer Comment: Former Trinity Student
*Consumer Comment: A different experience at Trinity
*Consumer Comment: Trinity Seminary in Newburgh, IN is great
*General Comment: Trinity Bible College/Seminary in Newburgh, IN is a great school. The nasty claim is untrue and unfair.
*General Comment: Proud to be a Trinity Graduate!
*Consumer Comment: Experience at Trinity
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Trinity is Great
*Consumer Comment: Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
*Consumer Comment: Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
*Consumer Comment: Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
*Consumer Comment: Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
*Author of original report: Scam
*Author of original report: Resolved
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Trinity has fraudulent accreditation from the National Association of Private Nontraditional Schools and Colleges. The NAPNSC is an accreditation mill having been rejected for recognition by the Department of Education seven times and dropping out of the Departments program many more times.
Trinity appears legitimate and even has some coursework, but it is all designed by "adjunct faculty" who are probably not aware that Trinity is a diploma mill. One Pastor who was hired as a grader for Trinity confesses that Trinity told him "if a student pays they get an a." When I was attending Trinity I realized that my assignments were not being graded (except those sent to adjunct faculty unaware of the scam). I began purposefully omitting large portions of assignments and putting messages in my assignments. They were all returned with a grader of 100% and a general comment like "nice work."- No one noticed entire chapters worth of questions simply missing.
On one occation I contacted a "professor." He was obviously unaware of the class I was supposedly taking from him. He did not know what materials were needed or even the basic concept of the class. He told me he "taught so many classes he couldn't keep track of all of them." This was the first red flag.
When I realized Trinity was a scam I reported them to the better business bureau, but what Trinity does is not illegal per se it is simply unethical and immoral. Trinity responded by expelling me for "improper Christian conduct" under Indiana law if you get expelled you are still responsible for all financial obligations to an institution. I was expelled for use of the words "hell" and "damn" in e-mails.
There is really nothing anyone can do to stop Trinity, but I hope to make others aware of the scam being pulled.
Jeremy
Powell, Wyoming
U.S.A.
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Trinity College and Seminary - Accreditation
AUTHOR: C.B.Ross (Rev) - ()
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 07, 2013
"It has no academic accreditation with any recognized association ..."
This is absolute nonsense. When I followed my M.Div. Course, it was accredited by the University of Liverpool, U.K. This is most definitely not the sort of educational establishment that would provide such accreditation without having rigorously checked the courses, and the faculty. It is an established British University, with a fine reputation - that it would not have allowed to be sullied by any association with an inferior institution!
#2 Consumer Comment
Former Trinity Student
AUTHOR: Scott in Canada - ()
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 07, 2013
This place is all about making money - its "faculty advisors" are nothing but telemarketers. If enroll for a "degree program" they fee you to death. It has no academic accreditation with any recognized association. If you apply for a job or missionary work or further academic study - anyone who knows anything will be aware you have a bogus degree - and it will be completely useless - no one recognizes it. Spend a little more - get a real degree from a recognized institution.
#3 Consumer Comment
A different experience at Trinity
AUTHOR: Dave - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 28, 2013
I have stopped pursuing my degree at Trinity due to current pastoral work load. My only concern with them was their lengthy accreditation effort. As far as the charge that Trinity is a degree mill, my experience indicates that could not be further from the truth.
David C
Memphis, TN
#4 Consumer Comment
Trinity Seminary in Newburgh, IN is great
AUTHOR: Michael - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 28, 2013
I'm not sure where the fellow from Wyoming went, but it wasn't to Trinity Seminary.
Peace and Blessings,
Michael
#5 General Comment
Trinity Bible College/Seminary in Newburgh, IN is a great school. The nasty claim is untrue and unfair.
AUTHOR: my brother''s keeper - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 11, 2013
Trinity has a very skilled and competent teaching staff and they have satisfied graduates all over the world. They do an exceptional job in Bible training and relevant education for Christian ministry.
I personally am a student at Trinity and would highly recommend them. I am a retired college educator myself being in college administration, college teaching, and college guidance counseling. I am well versed in the makings of a good collegiate program. I have attended Trinity for several years now and have not seen the "junk" that the author of the article claims to have seen. I received good instruction both on campus and through distance learning and the cost was very reasonable.
I regret the "bad press" that Trinity has received. To my knowledge, the charges are very unfair and very false. The individual evidently had personal problems and some "axes to grind" and rather than approach the nice folks at Trinity, he took his pen out and did a smear job. I will graduate from Trinity in 2013 and will proudly walk across the stage to receive my Trinity diploma.
#6 General Comment
Proud to be a Trinity Graduate!
AUTHOR: C.B.Ross (Rev) - (United Kingdom)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 11, 2013
I also hold a Master's degree in Science from The University of Strathclyde (Scotland), along with my B.A. (Hons) from The Open University; the Licentiate in Theology from The University of Glasgow; the Associateship of The Philosophical Society of England; the Diploma of The Bible Training Institute, Glasgow; a Diploma in Management and Leadership in Education from The University of Strathclyde; the Certificate in Secondary Education (Religious and Moral Education, and History) from Moray House College of Education, Edinburgh; and the Certificate in Management in Education from The University of Strathclyde.
All of that was not in order to boast, but merely to make the point that I have had considerable experience at undergraduate, graduate, and postgraduate levels in education.
I can honestly say that my M.Div, was the qualification for which I had to work hardest, and write most! I attended some residential courses here in the UK, and the rest of the work was completed as distance learning - something with which I was already familiar through my studies with The Open University. The College was, in my time, fully accredited by The University of Liverpool - certainly no "degree-mill"! I had a tutor, based in London, with whom I could communicate by telephone, as well as by e-mail and 'snail-mail'.
I look on my M.Div. as being the 'academic crown' among all of my qualifications.
Mr Powell may be confusing a legitimate academic establishment with something else bearing a similar name!
#7 Consumer Comment
Experience at Trinity
AUTHOR: Dave - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 02, 2011
I have stopped pursuing my degree at Trinity due to current pastoral work load. My concern with them is the lengthy accreditation effort with DOE. As far as the charge that Trinity is a degree mill, my experience indicates that could not be further from the truth. Additionally, during my on campus time no student ever hinted of that.
David
Memphis, TN
#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Trinity is Great
AUTHOR: my brother''s keeper - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 11, 2010
(written by a current satisfied Trinity Student)
Jeremy from Wyoming is entirely and blatantly wrong. I'm a student at Trinity and it has been a wonderful college and seminary for me. I have attended many colleges/universities over the years and Trinity rates very high in academic quality and scholarly expertise. It is certainly not the dimploma mill that Jeremy described and he did a great school a great injustice by writing his "gripe letter". Trinity has pioneered the distance learning approach and has an outstanding faculty and curriculum.
Jeremy, don't use your "sour grapes approach", to slam a great school with a wonderful Christian ministry. I will have my PhD from Trinity this next year and I feel very well academically prepared. By the way, every paper that I've submitted to Trinity and every examination taken has been scrutinized and given great attention.
Jeremy is wrong, wrong, wrong in his comments on grading. The academic rigor of Trinity's programs are every bit as high as top-rated state universities and the grading for me has always been fair and constructive.
Trinity will have full accreditation in January of 2011 and this will greatly help the growth of this great college and seminary. Also, I have received excellent financial assistance at Trinity and their tuition and fees are extremely reasonable.
For someone looking for a conservative, spiritually-alive, customer-friendly, academically-sound, effective distance-learning approach, low cost/high quality institution, Trinity College and Seminary in Newburgh may be for you. Please don't listen to the doom-sayer guy from Wyoming.
#9 Consumer Comment
Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 28, 2008
The research papers were always read in their entirety. How do I know this? There are red ink corrections, suggestions, and comments throughout. An A-grade is not always the outcome. Trinity does not pretend that the course-work is always graded by the class professor. Sometimes my papers were graded by the professor who produced the lectures, while at other times, the papers are graded by an adjunt course grader with a particular expertise in that paper's subject.
Yes, it is true that Trinity is not accredited by a governmental regional agency, but that does not mean that it is a degree mill or an illegitimate school. For what it was set up to do, Trinity offers Distance Learning for those who cannot attend classes due to family or location problems.
They are currently being considered for regional accreditation by a governmental agency. Yes, it would be nice for them to be accredited, but the quality of the education has not been a problem for me
Trinity is not a degree mill. Believe me, if you take a Trinity course on the same subject from an accredited school, you will come away from that class thinking you earned those credit hours.
I am dumbfounded as to how Jeremy Powell of Wyoming, USA could have had such a negative experience. There are thousands of Trinity students out in the secular and religious job market that have benefitted from Trinity studies. When the college and seminary receive the regional accreditation, Jeremy will be shown to have an agenda that is less than truthful.
#10 Consumer Comment
Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 28, 2008
The research papers were always read in their entirety. How do I know this? There are red ink corrections, suggestions, and comments throughout. An A-grade is not always the outcome. Trinity does not pretend that the course-work is always graded by the class professor. Sometimes my papers were graded by the professor who produced the lectures, while at other times, the papers are graded by an adjunt course grader with a particular expertise in that paper's subject.
Yes, it is true that Trinity is not accredited by a governmental regional agency, but that does not mean that it is a degree mill or an illegitimate school. For what it was set up to do, Trinity offers Distance Learning for those who cannot attend classes due to family or location problems.
They are currently being considered for regional accreditation by a governmental agency. Yes, it would be nice for them to be accredited, but the quality of the education has not been a problem for me
Trinity is not a degree mill. Believe me, if you take a Trinity course on the same subject from an accredited school, you will come away from that class thinking you earned those credit hours.
I am dumbfounded as to how Jeremy Powell of Wyoming, USA could have had such a negative experience. There are thousands of Trinity students out in the secular and religious job market that have benefitted from Trinity studies. When the college and seminary receive the regional accreditation, Jeremy will be shown to have an agenda that is less than truthful.
#11 Consumer Comment
Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 28, 2008
The research papers were always read in their entirety. How do I know this? There are red ink corrections, suggestions, and comments throughout. An A-grade is not always the outcome. Trinity does not pretend that the course-work is always graded by the class professor. Sometimes my papers were graded by the professor who produced the lectures, while at other times, the papers are graded by an adjunt course grader with a particular expertise in that paper's subject.
Yes, it is true that Trinity is not accredited by a governmental regional agency, but that does not mean that it is a degree mill or an illegitimate school. For what it was set up to do, Trinity offers Distance Learning for those who cannot attend classes due to family or location problems.
They are currently being considered for regional accreditation by a governmental agency. Yes, it would be nice for them to be accredited, but the quality of the education has not been a problem for me
Trinity is not a degree mill. Believe me, if you take a Trinity course on the same subject from an accredited school, you will come away from that class thinking you earned those credit hours.
I am dumbfounded as to how Jeremy Powell of Wyoming, USA could have had such a negative experience. There are thousands of Trinity students out in the secular and religious job market that have benefitted from Trinity studies. When the college and seminary receive the regional accreditation, Jeremy will be shown to have an agenda that is less than truthful.
#12 Consumer Comment
Trinity Seminary Indiana Not A Degree Mill
AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 28, 2008
The research papers were always read in their entirety. How do I know this? There are red ink corrections, suggestions, and comments throughout. An A-grade is not always the outcome. Trinity does not pretend that the course-work is always graded by the class professor. Sometimes my papers were graded by the professor who produced the lectures, while at other times, the papers are graded by an adjunt course grader with a particular expertise in that paper's subject.
Yes, it is true that Trinity is not accredited by a governmental regional agency, but that does not mean that it is a degree mill or an illegitimate school. For what it was set up to do, Trinity offers Distance Learning for those who cannot attend classes due to family or location problems.
They are currently being considered for regional accreditation by a governmental agency. Yes, it would be nice for them to be accredited, but the quality of the education has not been a problem for me
Trinity is not a degree mill. Believe me, if you take a Trinity course on the same subject from an accredited school, you will come away from that class thinking you earned those credit hours.
I am dumbfounded as to how Jeremy Powell of Wyoming, USA could have had such a negative experience. There are thousands of Trinity students out in the secular and religious job market that have benefitted from Trinity studies. When the college and seminary receive the regional accreditation, Jeremy will be shown to have an agenda that is less than truthful.

