• Report: #870529

Complaint Review: Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz

  • Submitted: Wed, April 18, 2012
  • Updated: Thu, December 13, 2012

  • Reported By: BBCW — Ozark Missouri United States of America
Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz
2112 Vista, Springfield, MO 65807 Ozark, Missouri United States of America

Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz : Be Careful of Undisclosed Fees Ozark, Missouri

*Consumer Comment: Triple S Properties

*UPDATE Employee: RE complaint about Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz

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The threat of eviction came in the mail yesterday. Either pay the Shannaclaire Place Home Owners Association dues or you will be evicted. 

This battle has been going on for months. We moved in on October, 1, 2011, with the best intentions for our new home. We were excited because it was a lease to own option, but we should have known something was up when the lease to own verbiage wasn't in the lease and we had to ask their agent Ryan to hand write what she told us on the phone into the lease terms. 

Come December, we began getting bills from the home owners association. We first ignored them. We aren't the homeowners yet and when that responsibility becomes ours, we will be more than happy to face that responsibility. The bill came in an envelope from Triple S Properties. After they sent the second bill at the first part of the year, we called them to find out what the deal was. [continued below]....
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This had not been disclosed to us upon our signing the lease. We looked in our leasing terms, and there was not one mention of the any requirement on our part to pay these dues. We called Triple S Properties and explained this to them. They would pass this off to the owner Mike Seitz, and we wouldn't hear anything until the next bill was sent.

Finally this week, we got a letter from Triple S Properties threatening us with eviction on May 1, 2012, if we don't pay the home owners association fees. My wife went to Triple S Properties the day after we received the letter asking them for proof with our signatures on a contract that we agreed to pay the home owners association fees, and they would not provide copies of the contract. Honestly, if we signed it, we would pay the dues. We have looked over while having friends and our attorney look over the contract and there is no disclosure that these dues are part of our requirement to remain in good status for the lease.

With that said, over the past ten days, we have been battling the home owners association over landscaping. The owner, Mike Seitz refuses to upkeep the property and hasn't even established grass in the yard in the five years since the house was built--it's mostly weeds. The home owners association is threatening us with a lien on the house telling us they have the right to landscape the house and charge the home owner for the costs if the landscaping isn't done. 

Now, we have been good renters. Not one payment to Mr. Seitz has been late. We even have begun ordering landscaping for the yard starting with the grass; however, I am canceling the order for the new zoysia grass, which is going to cost me a lot more than these home owners association dues, which would also increase the property value of the house, because Seitz is threatening to evict us for fees never disclosed or agreed to in our lease. Mr. Seitz should be thrilled that we take care of his property and are willing to invest in it, especially as the home owners association is threatening a lien on the property so the landscaping rules are met. However, he would rather have our attorneys go at it than be honest. As well, Mr. Seitz expects us to pay the dues but won't turn over his right to vote in the home owners association, which makes paying the dues even more bitter.

The Home Owners Association President told us yesterday that former renters were never made to pay these dues before. Like I said, the leasing agreement has been gone through with a fine tooth comb and there is nothing about home owners association fees.

So, beware of Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz. It doesn't pay to be a good renter who pays their rent on time, taking care of his property, and actually investing in it to make it better. All the money that I was planning on planting shrubs and grass with will now be used to pay my attorney, and Mr. Seitz can deal with the lien placed on his property once the home owners association follows through on their promises to landscape this property. I refuse to spend another dime to improve this property as long as Mr. Seitz pushes undisclosed fees not covered in the leasing agreement, which makes him a very foolish man considering the costs to landscape.

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#1 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: sweetseven - ()

This is just information : The owner of Triple S Properties Mike Seitz is no longer doing business under that name...it has been changed to Rentals Llc. owner Mike Seitz. Anyone having to do business with is man and his company may find this information useful.

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RE complaint about Triple S Properties and Mike Seitz

AUTHOR: Triple S Properties - (United States of America)

All tenants of Triple S Properties who live in homes in a development pay HOA dues based on the subdivision they reside in. The HOA dues are used for various things such as mowing and upkeep of common areas in the subdivision, pool upkeep if there is a community pool, etc. The residents of the subdivision each pay a portion of the cost to maintain these amenities. Each subdivision is different and the cost of the dues is different based on the amenities. Since the tenants of the homes are the ones who enjoy these amenities it only makes sense they would be the ones to pay the associated dues, not the landlord. I cannot speak as to why this tenant was willing to enter into an agreement for a lease to own without doing their own due diligence regarding HOA dues nor can I speak as to why the leasing agent may or may not have told the tenant about the dues. I have no knowledge of their conversations. I can speak to the fact that every tenant who lives in one of our homes in a subdivision with an HOA pays yearly dues.
 
To address the second complaint of this tenant regarding the landscaping I would like to offer this information. Mr. Seitz was the developer of the Shannaclaire Subdivision. He was responsible for the Covenants and Restrictions for the subdivision. In those Covenants and Restrictions there is a section on landscaping. This area falls under the control of the Architectural Committee, not the Home Owners Association. Mr. Seitz has maintained control of the Architectural Committee and has never turned over the rights or responsibilities of such to the Home Owners Association. Having said that, the Home Owners Association does not have the right to police the landscaping of homeowners in the subdivision and most certainly has no right to threaten a tenant or homeowner with a lien on the home or the cost of landscaping should they decide to do it themselves. To address the comment regarding having a voting right in the HOA, at such time as the complainant decides to become a Homeowner and accepts all the responsibilities associated with such he would be given that right. Until then, he is renting a home. Additionally, to the best of my knowledge, the HOA President has never been an employee of Triple S Properties and would then have no knowledge of whether or not our tenants were made to pay these fees.
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