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Complaint Review: US Dept. Of Eduction And Business Computer Training Institute BCTI
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| US Dept. Of Eduction And Business Computer Training Institute BCTI PO Box 4144
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US Dept. Of Eduction And Business Computer Training Institute, The BCTI debacle of the state of Washington Greenville Texas
*Consumer Comment: BCTI
*General Comment: To Anaisnun - Long Beach (U.S.A.)
*Author of original report: I owe you nothing!!
*Consumer Suggestion: Public or Private
*Consumer Suggestion: beentherdonethat, I don't owe YOU anything
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: But you owe ME the money!
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I am a former BCTI (Business Computer Training Institute) student. I was also part of a class action lawsuit in the state of Wasington against this now defunct school.
The Court has previously ruled that the following people and entities are class members: All persons enrolled in Business Computer Training Institute (BCTI) from its inception in 1985 to the time of its closure on March 14, 2005 at any campus in Washington State.
Who failed to received the education, training, and assistance to their contract and/or were induced into enrollment through fraud, violations of RCW 19.86.020, and violations of RCW 9A.82.100.
The former students did receive a class action lawsuit settlement in December 2007. I'm glad that I joined the fight against BCTI. I'm also glad to help in trying to get new laws enacted.
These new laws are great for preventing this BCTI debacle from happening to other students. However, when it comes to the former students, who are stuck with student loans from BCTI, what is being done to help them?
Many former students, including myself, are stuck with student loans from attending BCTI. The lawsuit settlement may have helped to a degee with some of the damages but did not cover the issue of the student loans.
Why are any of the former BCTI students paying for sub-standard education they received fram a now defunct school? It does not make sense. We cannot use the training from BCTI to get jobs or use on resumes.
We can't even attempt to apply for another loan to attend a good and reputable college, because the old student loan from BCTI is still in place.
I even did write letters to both Senators of the State of Washington., Marie Cantwell and Patty Murray. I didn't receive any positive response concerning the student loan issue.
What did I receive instead? Continuing harassment and threats from the Dept. of Education. I have been threatened with Treasury Offsets and threats of seizing my future Social Security benefits just to pay for a student loan from a defunct school (BCTI).
The impression that I get from our politicians is that the whole student loan issue is really not that important enough for their attention. Whenever you hear that a politian says that they care about the quality of education in this country, they are more so referring to K-12.
Politicians do not seem to be all that concerned with the quality of education in colleges. The impression that I get from the Dept. of Ed. is that they are a money-grubbing juggernaut whose favorite color is green, that claims they are right and you are wrong, that they stop at nothing at retreiving of what is owed on the student loans for a defunct school. This is wrong!
Paying for sub-standard education is a ripoff. We don't need threats or anything seized. What we need is leglislation passed to write off these student loans for all the former students that have attended BCTI.
Scott
Vancouver, Washington
U.S.A.
The Court has previously ruled that the following people and entities are class members: All persons enrolled in Business Computer Training Institute (BCTI) from its inception in 1985 to the time of its closure on March 14, 2005 at any campus in Washington State.
Who failed to received the education, training, and assistance to their contract and/or were induced into enrollment through fraud, violations of RCW 19.86.020, and violations of RCW 9A.82.100.
The former students did receive a class action lawsuit settlement in December 2007. I'm glad that I joined the fight against BCTI. I'm also glad to help in trying to get new laws enacted.
These new laws are great for preventing this BCTI debacle from happening to other students. However, when it comes to the former students, who are stuck with student loans from BCTI, what is being done to help them?
Many former students, including myself, are stuck with student loans from attending BCTI. The lawsuit settlement may have helped to a degee with some of the damages but did not cover the issue of the student loans.
Why are any of the former BCTI students paying for sub-standard education they received fram a now defunct school? It does not make sense. We cannot use the training from BCTI to get jobs or use on resumes.
We can't even attempt to apply for another loan to attend a good and reputable college, because the old student loan from BCTI is still in place.
I even did write letters to both Senators of the State of Washington., Marie Cantwell and Patty Murray. I didn't receive any positive response concerning the student loan issue.
What did I receive instead? Continuing harassment and threats from the Dept. of Education. I have been threatened with Treasury Offsets and threats of seizing my future Social Security benefits just to pay for a student loan from a defunct school (BCTI).
The impression that I get from our politicians is that the whole student loan issue is really not that important enough for their attention. Whenever you hear that a politian says that they care about the quality of education in this country, they are more so referring to K-12.
Politicians do not seem to be all that concerned with the quality of education in colleges. The impression that I get from the Dept. of Ed. is that they are a money-grubbing juggernaut whose favorite color is green, that claims they are right and you are wrong, that they stop at nothing at retreiving of what is owed on the student loans for a defunct school. This is wrong!
Paying for sub-standard education is a ripoff. We don't need threats or anything seized. What we need is leglislation passed to write off these student loans for all the former students that have attended BCTI.
Scott
Vancouver, Washington
U.S.A.
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BCTI
AUTHOR: concepcion **** - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 11, 2013
POSTED: Friday, January 11, 2013
Bcti not only rip me off but also had me belive all this time that i had a GED theyvgave me a grant that later turn into a loan only i was to naive to know what was happening also di not know english so i could not even read what they gave me to sighned...but now i am stuck with a big loan...
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To Anaisnun - Long Beach (U.S.A.)
AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 01, 2010
POSTED: Wednesday, September 01, 2010I also have a pituitary tumor, (Benign) I switched doctors (Doctor wanted to operate) and was prescribed Cobalt, I am feeling cured, no more pain, fatigue, or weakness, go to your doctor, or change doctors, it is damn expensive medicine, but it works.
ten tiny pills, half the size of a gain of rice,and I take 1/2 pill two times a week. Cost me (With medicare paying part) $265.00 for the bottle of ten, I take my last half-pill this thursday and that's the end of it.
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What's this? #3 Author of original report
I owe you nothing!!
AUTHOR: RB - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 17, 2010
POSTED: Saturday, April 17, 2010
I don't need your sympathy, and I don't owe you nothing!
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What's this? #4 Consumer Suggestion
Public or Private
AUTHOR: Ashley - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 30, 2009
POSTED: Thursday, April 30, 2009
The school may have secured these loans for you, but the school did not loan you the money. A bank or the government loaned you the money. If it was non-public funds, then a bank loaned the money to you. You owe the bank the money, not the school. Should the bank just go, Oh you got ripped off because of your poor school choice just forget about that money you owe us. That wouldn't make any sense. No one made you go to that school. No one made you get that loan. You could have taken the loan money to any school you wished.
Say you get a loan for a car and the car turns out to be a lemon. You can't use the car and you only getting a small settlement over the issue that isn't enough for your loan. You still owe on the loan even though the car is useless. Why? Because you borrowed the money, it doesn't matter what the money was used for, YOU borrowed the money and YOU need to pay it back.
Say you get a loan for a car and the car turns out to be a lemon. You can't use the car and you only getting a small settlement over the issue that isn't enough for your loan. You still owe on the loan even though the car is useless. Why? Because you borrowed the money, it doesn't matter what the money was used for, YOU borrowed the money and YOU need to pay it back.
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beentherdonethat, I don't owe YOU anything
AUTHOR: Anaisnun - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009
POSTED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009
As a former BCTI completion certificate-holding "student", I don't owe beentheredonethat anything.
BCTI also made use of non-federal private loans at even higher interest and I was a recipient.
It was funny how easily they gave it to me all those years ago; I explained to Brett from the Beaverton campus that I was already in default on a federal student loan, how I was dealing with mental problems (finding years later I had a pituitary tumor), that I was struggling with drug addiction and recently divorced, and also on disability.
Of course, he did ask me to find a co-signer, but I couldn't -and he approved the in-house loan anway.
I gave BCTI full disclosure of such circumstances during this process, so does it sound like I was capable of making a rational decision about this nonsense at the time?
BCTI did engage in predatory and negligent practices, thay are not an innocent party -federal funding or not. This goes beyond money. I won't say much about students running away with instructors or the rampant drug use, the multiple homeless and/or borderline developmentally disabled students, or the sexually predatory stalker who attended that was allowed to stay in school even after several complaints from female students. Forget my meager instruction to Dos/WordPerfect when it was so obsolete it wasn't usable in "real life".
I am a plaintiff in the Oregon class action suit. Defend, defend, defend all you want, but BCTI is not just a victim of greedy ex students.
BCTI also made use of non-federal private loans at even higher interest and I was a recipient.
It was funny how easily they gave it to me all those years ago; I explained to Brett from the Beaverton campus that I was already in default on a federal student loan, how I was dealing with mental problems (finding years later I had a pituitary tumor), that I was struggling with drug addiction and recently divorced, and also on disability.
Of course, he did ask me to find a co-signer, but I couldn't -and he approved the in-house loan anway.
I gave BCTI full disclosure of such circumstances during this process, so does it sound like I was capable of making a rational decision about this nonsense at the time?
BCTI did engage in predatory and negligent practices, thay are not an innocent party -federal funding or not. This goes beyond money. I won't say much about students running away with instructors or the rampant drug use, the multiple homeless and/or borderline developmentally disabled students, or the sexually predatory stalker who attended that was allowed to stay in school even after several complaints from female students. Forget my meager instruction to Dos/WordPerfect when it was so obsolete it wasn't usable in "real life".
I am a plaintiff in the Oregon class action suit. Defend, defend, defend all you want, but BCTI is not just a victim of greedy ex students.
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What's this? #6 UPDATE EX-employee responds
But you owe ME the money!
AUTHOR: Beentheredonethat - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 28, 2009
POSTED: Saturday, March 28, 2009
I feel your pain. Many of the people who went to BCTI did get ripped off. But BCTI didn't lend you the money. Most of the money was lent to you in the form of Student Loans, right? That's taxpayer money. You owe it to the American people. Even though you got ripped off. You pay your debts and then you go after BCTI (which you did in your lawsuit) to get back what you can. That is just how it works.
You have a legitimate beef with how private vocational schools are regulated and overseen. I applaud your efforts to change that system - you may have more luck if you call Ms. Cantwell Maria rather than Marie - and Patty Murray was a staunch supporter of BCTI, helping them regain their status when they lost it in 1996, and temporarily cold not avail themselves of the student loan pie. I'm sure she is embarassed by that now and won't go near the topic.
I worked at BCTI for a short time, sucked in by the promise of changing lives. When I realized it was a scam I left, and that was long before they got as dirty as they were the last few years, as I hear it told now. Hope you land on your feet and channel all that energy into your own great success.
You have a legitimate beef with how private vocational schools are regulated and overseen. I applaud your efforts to change that system - you may have more luck if you call Ms. Cantwell Maria rather than Marie - and Patty Murray was a staunch supporter of BCTI, helping them regain their status when they lost it in 1996, and temporarily cold not avail themselves of the student loan pie. I'm sure she is embarassed by that now and won't go near the topic.
I worked at BCTI for a short time, sucked in by the promise of changing lives. When I realized it was a scam I left, and that was long before they got as dirty as they were the last few years, as I hear it told now. Hope you land on your feet and channel all that energy into your own great success.
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