• Report: #1044008

Complaint Review: University of Phoenix

  • Submitted: Wed, April 17, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, April 17, 2013

  • Reported By: Geo-engineer — Tampa Florida
University of Phoenix
Phoenix Az Phoenix, Arizona United States of America

University of Phoenix All for-profit so-called universities are suspect scams. Beware of worthless diplomas from for-profit on-line universities. Phoenix, Arizona

*General Comment: University of Phoenix

*General Comment: Accredited is Accredited

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Virtually all on-line, for-profit schools are scams, or just a bad deal for the student.  I am a retired engineer with a degree in electrical engineering from an accredited State University. I know what real honest study is all about. After graduation, I worked a productive career with a major corporation for over 32 years. The company I worked for would not even consider hiring an applicant with a degree from U of Phoenix nor from virtually any other on-line, for-profit, so-called universities. We hired from schools like U of Florida, U of Michigan, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Univ of Miami, and a host of others. Engineers, and other professionals need to know how to perform real professional work, and this cant be done on a delusion of knowing something.



A real university will have entry requirements such as SAT scores, and require a relatively high Grade Point Average (GPA) in your high school studies. The reason for this is that university study requires intelligence (above average IQ), and the ability to read and write, use computers and so on. Your GPA is one indicator of your ability to learn the advanced knowledge and skills that a university teaches.  If you dont have these qualifications you wont be able to keep up with the class work. A real State university, or real private university or college, will maintain their academic standards, and will fail students that dont perform academically. They wont lie to students by giving inflated grades for learning nothing; the U of Phoenix type schools will deceive you in this way.

A for-profit university like U of Phoenix, and many others in the same category, will accept anyone with a pulse, as long as you can come up with the money to pay them. Then they will issue high grades for inferior work. This is all a dishonest and damaging to the student, that will owe potentially tens of thousands of dollars, and will not have any employable skill at the end, even if graduation is achieved. Read the hundreds, if not thousands, of complaints all over the internet about U of Phoenix, and other schools like them.

Heres what you need to do if you are ready to pursue an education. Check in with a guidance counselor at your local community college or junior college. If you dont have a high school diploma, they will guide you on how you get that done. These schools often will have an open enrolment without a GPA threshold, at least on a probationary basis, and will give you an opportunity to catch up on knowledge you did not learn in high school. This kind of school will offer what are essentially remedial courses so you can upgrade your basic knowledge and skills to the level you will need to honestly succeed in the academic work at the level of a university. The cost to do this is relatively low, and many of these remedial courses, and courses that will actually count toward a legitimate Associates Degree, are offered on line. The local community college will be integrated with the State university system, and their courses passed with a good grade will transfer to a real State university.

Theres no free lunch in life. But, there are real paths to legitimate success, and these cost less than U of Phoenix. Real university graduates make up the professionals in many technical, business and social fields. The public depends on these people to know their stuff, so they can deliver competent services that we all count on. Someone who was duped to go through a fake university, and knows little, cannot function as a professional in society. 

Do your research; go to the local community college and get the honest overview of your options. Dont get sucked in by these scam so-called universities, that basically rip off the taxpayers, when you cant pay off the student loans you took out to pay the U of Phoenix, or their cousin scams. One day, with enough public outcry, the scam shools will be shut down, especially as the government tries to cut waste and abuse in its budgets going forward. 

A wise man once said, A fool and his money are soon separated. This will be the case if you sign up with U of Phoenix, or schools like them. Be honest with yourself, get the straight scoop go visit an admissions counselor at a community college.


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#1 General Comment

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AUTHOR: David - ()

While I have read plenty of negative responses about the University of Phoenix across message boards from one end of the internet to the other, I can safely say an argument by popular opinion is hardly a sole proving mechanism. In fact it’s a classic fallacy.

With that being said, you can get into graduate school with a degree from this college as it is accredited. Will it hold the weight of Ivy League schools? Certainly not, but what it will do is give you a chance to make a positive life affirming change, in a scenario that has little outs. Most people who go to the University of Phoenix do so because their company will help them pay for it, so they can be promoted past invisible ceilings (already knowing they can do the job) or people who are strapped for time or even still those sad folks who pissed away their youth and are not able to get into the college of their choice based on grades and test scores.

I am an alumnus of this college, and if I had a short term time travel trip, I might have gone another way. However, I cannot be upset because I did not start college till I was a little older, and already had a full gambit of financial responsibilities. This college let me complete it at my own pace, and gave me a modality that put learning in my hands.

I graduated in February 2013, and In August of this year have finally started a job that is in direct line with my degree. While I believe I may have got the job based on my interview skills, more so than my degree, it could not have hurt because the job REQUIRED a degree to even apply. This job is for a company that is primarily a government contractor for work on background investigations. They even offer tuition reimbursement for a number of colleges, University of Phoenix being one of them. If this college is such a failed attempt at robbing foolish people blind, why does this company offer to help pay its tuition?

Shortly before attaining this job (start Monday) I worked at a Private Christian College in the security department (my degree is in IT) and as such, I personally know 3 people who have Computer Science degrees from this private Christian School (which is ABET accredited) and of the 3, I can compete with all but one of them in most any IT related topics and discussions. So I have complete faith in MY degree, maybe not the college’s so much as my own personal experience. They gave me the information, I decided it was up to me to make the best use out of it. You cannot lump an entire school’s graduates in to a tight little convenient box, as I know people from all methods of education (College, trade school, self-taught, etc) and personal responsibility has been the deciding factor with the outcome each and every time. My wife just got finished with a BA at a state school (SRU) and 80% of her grade was group work where in most of her groups she did 95% of the work, she even went as far as to purposely spell a team members name wrong, just to see if anyone noticed – which they did not, and they still graduated off the backs of other people. Not all things are as clearly visible as they appear.

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#2 General Comment

Accredited is Accredited

AUTHOR: Wayne - ()

First off, if your company is discriminating against that they themselves (depending on the state) can be sued. Secondly, I have gone to both a brick and mortar and an online school. I find them equally easy to excel in.  The school you mentioned is an accredited school, and the degree is far from worthless. From your report, you seem to have never encountered an online graduate in order to evaluate their skills.
True, these schools do not care about your past grades when you were a child, but you need to be able to prove your knowledge in the classes just as you do in a state university. Anyone can have a chance to go to an online school without the prejudice of what happened in their youth... but that is a good thing. 
University of Phoenix was recently in trouble because they have so many students that just cant make it. There are other schools that have a similar problem. For profit schools such as Harvard and Stanford. Incidentally, they are now offering online classes. I'll hire someone from any school once they show me what they can do. 
I think the issue here is that you are basing your ripoff report off of absolutely zero evidence. Next time, try listing an example of a time when you DID work with someone with this kind of degree rather than that you never would. It just sounds angry.
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