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Complaint Review: V Ron German Shepherds

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  • Submitted: Tue, August 27, 2013
  • Updated: Tue, August 27, 2013

  • Reported By: Luvgsds26 — St. Louis Missouri
V Ron German Shepherds
601 Centennial Rd Rutherfordton , North Carolina USA

V Ron German Shepherds, or Vom Ron German ShepherdsJoan Ronalder Sold genetically defective sick dog Rutherfordton North Carolina

*Author of original report: They lied again!!

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Vom Ron Gremain Shepherds, or v Ron as they are trying to go by to hide from complaints, sold me a dog with a health guarantee against genetic illness.     The dog was diagnosed with Elbow Dysplasia and had a $5,000 vet bill for tests and surgery.  They did some what initially agree to comply with the contract in that they offered me either a 4 month black & tan female leftover they couldn't sell or a choice from 2 upcoming litters.  Since I specifically wanted a sable and male and that is what I paid for that is what I wanted.  Not unreasonable by any means but when I didn't eat their leftover female they flipped out, accused me of abusing my dogs, causing the dogs health problems and had 101 excuses.  

Now the dog has Wobbler's Syndrome and had over $5,000 more in vet bills for an MRI and cervical spine surgery for another genetic health problem!!!    I have all the original emails, not the ones they cut and paste to make up what they want them to say.       They accused me of drugging and beating this dog to cause these issues, insane, like I just have $10k laying around to give to vets!!!         They even said he is not the sold they sold me when they microchipped him and I can't fake that!!!  I also have a flack & tan female that is 6 weeks older than this dog that came from a different state and she is 100% healthy.  So you think about it, why in God's name would I or could I make one dog a genetic health diseaster and not the other?!?!

 

they have now added a "public notice" to their website about me which is 100% fabricated!!!!!  I haven't even sent them an email since 2012 yet they conveniently have emails from me from July 2013.  Flat out lie!!! Yes they did offer to refund my purchase money, after they had 101 excuses not to replace him, one of which they would replace it if I sent them $1,000 because they now sell their puppiewhat's more money and want me to make up the difference when MY contract says seller will replace the dog at no cost to buyer except transportation costs Iif needed, which I did not need.  My contract also says buyer keeps dog if spayed/neutered, which he was.  Yet they "offered" to refund my money when they were in possession of my dog.  Who in God's name would just spend $5,000 in vet bills and give the dog to them to euthanize!!!!  

 

MY contract also said in exact terms that if the dog is diagnosed prior to 24 months they will replace.  It says nothing about OFA rating or anything else and they were contacted when lameness started, when he was diagnosed, whan surgery was scheduled.  They had plenty of time to request I redo the X-rays and send to OFA but they didn't.  Then months later they wanted them rated by OFA and changed their contract and laughing thought they could hold me to the new contract!!!! 

 

JOKE!!!   I have heard of other sick dogs they have sold and told the buyers too bad.  They have accused me of extortion, funny right!!  And laughingly put on ether website I am in violation of federal defamation laws, first of all there is no federal law regarding this.  And second of all it can't be defamation if what I have said it true!!  What I've said is they have sold me a dog riddled with genetic health issues and they did, so not defamation, 2nd I said from day one that selling a dog with these health problems doesn't make a bad breeder unless they knowingly do it.  I have said over and over what makes a bad breeder is what they are doing, blaming me, refusing to comply with the contract, and defaming me by saying I abuse my dogs, beat them and drug them.  

 

Thankfully they were stupid enough to put this in writing in emails and message boards.  A court will determine whose emails are authentic.  Theirs sure are not!!

 

Bottom line is they now have a record of selling a dog with major genetic health problems and they have bred the same dogs since!!  Bottom line is they keep removing MY dogs genetic health issues from MY dogs pedigree on the German shepherd database so try and hide it from people, they have changed it at least 5 times.  They have refused to comply with MY contract.  Even said I voided my contract by having surgery on a dog that couldn't walk and screamed in pain.  I guess maybe they would have left him in that pain.  My contract didn't say anything about them having to approve surgery, why would it?? They didn't pay for it!!

 

Bottom line is there are wayyyyy too many reputable German Shepherd breeders out there that stand behind the health of their dogs, breeders that don't blame the buyer for genetic health problems the breeder is responsible for, that don't defame the buyer to try and make them look better.  

Check out pedigree database boards about breeders.  Vom Ron is so desperate to sell dogs the owner posted commentry boasting about the dogs, the kennel, the owner and were called out by someone asking aren't you the joanro that owns the kennel.  They constantly avoided comments busting them!!!

 

Final bottom line, why take a chance, it is heartbreaking watching a dog go through these genetic health problems.  I have cried many nights because I couldn't make his pain go away.  Luckily for him he is a strong dog and has miraculously pulled through both surgeries better than the surgeon and I could have ever hoped.  BUT that doesn't negate the fact he has these genetic health problems and MY contract said they will replace it anyet hey refuse.

At this point I wouldn't take a puppy from them if they paid me to!!  What I want now is my purchase money back and compensation for breaching the contract and defamation because I am the own violated.  Everything I have said about them I can prove.  They cannot prove anything they have said about me and a court of law will prove their emails they posted on their web site are lies!!!  If I have defamed them and violted some federal law that doesn't exist why haven't they sued me?!?! 

My goal now is to prevent anyone I can from the heartache I've had to endure watching this dog in pain from these genetic health problems that were caused by breeding not in any way by me and I have vet records and specialist statements to prove my side.

Again, do you want to take a chance and get a sick dog like this??  You may get a healthy dog but do you really want to take a chance knowing they will blame you, not comply with your health guarantee/contract, that they will defame you accuse you of vile things??  My advice, keep looking for a reputable breeder.  Any questions ask me.  I will show you the real story, not their fabricated emails and lies!!!  I still think its funny they have emails on their website that I never sent or received from them as I have had NO contact with them since 2012, yet their fake emails are dated July 2013!!!!!  

That shows how desperate and shady they are!!!!!


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#1 Author of original report

They lied again!!

AUTHOR: Luvgsds26 - ()

Vom Ron has posted more lies on their website regarding their breach of contract for selling me a very sick dog with Elbow Dysplasia AND Wobbler's Syndrome.

This is regarding a complaint filed with the BBB.  They lied to them just like they have lied all along.  They did not stick by their offer to refund or replace.  Every time they offerd any of these they made riciculous demands like return the dog which my contract allows me to keep or he needs current X-rays sent to OFA which again aren't in tne contract I signed when I bought my dog and they are too stupid to know that OFA cannot rate post op X-rays for either ED or HD.  What does that tell you about their knowledge?!?!?

I have contracted not only my congressman but a district supervisor in the BBB and provided them with proof Vom ron lied to them!!!!  I provided them with proof of the dogs genetic illness along with complete emails vom Ron sent telling me they will not replace the dog unless I give them back the dog I spent $10,000 in vet bills for these genetic illnesses and provided them with MY contract stating I can keep the dog if spayed/neutered which I provided proof he is neutered.  

I also provided them with complete emails from Von Ron telling me i had to send current X-rays to OFA after the email they posted on their website that they claim offered to replace the dog and lie and say I refused.  Their email follow up after the same email they have on tneir website states I voided my contract by having surgery on a severely lame dog from ED.    I provided these people with MY contract that says nothing about OFA nor does it say anything about surgery voiding MY contract as well as emails where they say I am bound by that ridiculous NEW contract that made up TWO YEARS after I bought my dog and now have on ther website.

please read their stupid contract they have and please know that this new contract was done to make it impossible for the buyer to have any legal recourse for purchasing a dog with any genetic illnesses!!!

I would hope no one would be stupid enough to purchase a dog, especially a German Shepherd from a breeder that has sold me a dog with ED AND Wobbler's Syndroms, under such a ridiculous contract.  I certainly NEVER WOULD!!! There are far too many breeders out there that do stand behind their dogs and not lie, slander, blame the buyer for 100% genetic problems And refuse to comply with the health guarantee/contract they sold a dog with!!!

FINALLY I would like to say that all I've wanted from day one was for them to comply with the health guarantee/contract they sold my dog under and although they did offer, they immediately retracted and made the insane demands I stated above. 

Why in God's name would I file complaints and 2 lawsuits if they had truly made a good faith effort to refund my money or replace the dog?!?!?  It makes no sense to anyone but these money hungry people that could care less about the dogs they sell, well they probably care about some, just those that are healthy!!!  And in addition I have purchased 4 German Shepherds in the last 20 years and have never had to make not one complaint because I have never had the displeasure of dealing with such dishonest people.  If you think I'm lying google my name, Melody Stemple.  I have a female GSD that is 6 weeks younger than the dog I bought from these dishonest people and this dog is 100% free of genetic problems so what sense would it make to do this and stick with it for 3 years!!!  I,  unlike them, have NOTHING to hide,  I don't have to make false claims, lie or cut & paste parts of many emails to try and make me look good like that have done!!!  That is exactly what they have on their website parts of emails they sent me and parts of emails I sent them and made up crap.  Not one thing they have posted is honest, trustworthy or true!!!!!  How sad is that!!!

like I've stated from the first complaint I've filed. Anyone want to know the real truth message me and I will provide proof for everything I've stated.  Many people have and they were extremely satisfied that I am the one telling the truth!!!  All I want is them to do the right thing and if they won't the public has a right to know what they are doing.  It is called free speech not violating ANY laws as they again lied about.  what they have done and posted is slander on me, which is illegal but I have stated nothing but 100% truth and can prove every word!!

I would also like to add that they sent me an email recently stating they will refund my money when I take back what I've said.  I told them they are crazy!!!! They've lied from day one so why would I trust them?!?!?!  I told them if I receive a refund I will add to my complaint that although they sold me a dog with genetic problems they eventually refunded my money.  Had anyone that contacted me regarding similar issues with this breeder filed any complaints so that the public could see I would have never bought from tbis breeder, way too many breeders out there that really do stand behind their dogs and would have never let this get this far, they would have replace the dog 3 years ago with proof from tbe vet which this breeder got prior to elbow surgery!!!  

I hope anyone looking to buy a dog from this breeder think seriously about it!!!  I'm not saying you will definitely get a dog sick like mine but if you do this will happen.  As I have also said probably 1,000 times I realize that even the best bred Gsds could produce a dog with ED/HD or other genetic problems, that doesn't make a bad breeder.  But what this breeder has done is just despicable!!!    If a breeder sells a dog with a health guarantee/contract that simply says (like mine does) that if the dog is diagnosed prior to 24 months seller will replace the dog with similar at no cost to buyer and buyer can keep the dog if spayed/neutered than they need to do what that contract says.  Not change it 2 years later and think the buyer has to do what the new one says!!!  It's just stupid!!!    If a seller doesn't want to cover ED/HD then don't they don't have to but if they didn't I would have never bought a dog from them!!!   And btw, when an 8 week sable colored male is bought a 16-20 week old black and tan female is not a similar or comparable replacement!!!!

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