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Complaint Review: Vega Group International

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  • Submitted: Wed, May 12, 2010
  • Updated: Tue, October 19, 2010

  • Reported By: mof — Internet United States of America
Vega Group International
Springfield, Missouri United States of America

Vega Group International Blue Star Business Institute, Scum-Bags R Us Springfield, Missouri

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Update

*Consumer Comment: I have done my homework

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Dan Vega is a scam artist who has moved from state to state taking people of their hard earned money.  Dan Vega along with his brother Darin Vega and associate John Krause have operated multiple businesses, franchises, and distributorships in the Springfiel MO are including: NutraStahl, Hague Quality Water, SaladMaster, Delphin Health Systems, Vega Group International, Vega Group Investments, Blue Star Business Institute, Forex5000, Towers Limousine, MidWest Medical, and others.

Dan touts himself as being best friends and confidant of Bill Bartmann.  He is best friends with Suze Orman, Zig Zigler, and others. He does have nice pictures in his office. He will tell you that he negotiated the purchase of their proprietary FOREX charting software which earned him a 9 figure commission. He will go on to tell you that he was given a maserati by the guy the contracted the eclusinve rights to the software.  Dan is a very, very smooth vacuum cleaner salesman that can type the personality of anyone and change his voice, words, sentence structure, and mannerisms to become best friends with anyone.  


LET"S GET REAL.  I have seen emails from MR Bartman stating that Dan, John and Darin took two of his BBI courses.  Other than that, Bill states that Dan is not a friend nor confidant.  Dan did not mentor under MR. Bartmann When pressed at a BSBI training in June, 2009 about contacting Suzi Orman, Dan quickly changed the subject being discussed. All of the information that Dan presents was developed and is owned by someone else. Nothing is original. Dan lost his office in Hammons Towers, moved into the Elite Currency Traders office, then both business vacated that office in the middle of the night. 

Next is the Forex:  The Masariti that Dan drove was actually leased for Dan as part of a client contract that was terminated.  The car was reposessed by the owner. Dan talks in depth about thier proprietary FOREX charting stating that the mathmatics found in their software is above reproach over all other charting software packages. 

Darin Vega presents himself as a qualified and experienced FOREX trainer and mentor on the Forex.  He is not a member of the NFA, has no FOREX Certifications, nor is he licensed with the SEC. How then is he providing One-on-One Mentorship? He states that he has all of his bills paid by just trading the Forex a few hours each day.  He was evicted out of Plaza Towers, he's in bankruptcy, he lost the web address for Towers Limosine, has no springfield business licenses for most of his businesses, and has multiple lawsuits pending.  You will only get emails to re-audit the Forex classes as long as you do not cause any issues nor ask too many detailed questions that he cannot answer.  Their Proprietary Forex Charting Software is actually owned by Trading Intl and with a certain number of trades per month the use of the software is free.  The information provided in the Forex trainings looked like it was copied straight of of babypips.com.  Darin's new adventure is Midwest Medical selling cheep air purifiers for a pretty large amount. Darin is a very, very smooth vacuum cleaner salesman that can type the personality of anyone and change his voice, words, sentence structure, and mannerisms to become best friends with anyone.

John Krause is a co-hort that Dan picked up to run businesses under so he is not directly related to multiple businesses.  Some of the business known to have been run through John are NutraStahl Cookware, SaladMaster, Hague Quality Water, and Elite Currency Traders.  The first three all had the franchise/distributorship stripped for business practices.  HMMMM   Like Darin, John portrays himself as a qualified FOREX trainer and mentor.  He too has no SEC license, no FOREX Certifications, and is not a member of the NFA.  Elite has the same promises of proprietary Forex Charting software, one-on-one mentorship, and lifetime auditing of Forex courses.  If you cause an issue or ask to many questions that they do not want to answer, you will no longer receive Forex Training emails. 

All of these men and their wives are in it for the money.  It mattrers not who they hurt.  Everything that they do must have some form of profit in the end. They will advertise jobs with huge salaries and benefits.  They will sell partnerships in their businesses without divulging legal issues like bankruptcy or lawsuits. Do not believe it.  Do your home work and investigate these individuals through the local and national court system.  Send an email to Bill Bartmann.  Check the BBB.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.


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AUTHOR: thorman69 - (United States of America)

Just to make good sense of things.  I have been involved with Mr. Vega on several different businesses.  I have known Mr. Vega, Mr. Krause and his brother Darrin for quite some time.  Dan does teach a wealth seminar, but the focus is not about building wealth.  It is far great than that.  He teaches quality of life, including putting family and spirituality first.  If you get the other things in your life wealth will come.  I am a very successful entrepreneur with several different companies and I have made 10's of millions and Mr. Vega is a guy that knows how to build alliances and can verbalize things very well.  He never says he is best friends with Bill Bartmann he does know him and that is a fact.  I have personally seen several letters and plans directly from Mr. Bartmann.  As far as Suze Orman and Zig Ziglar, he does know them and why wouldn't he.  He was clearly on the Get Motivated tour alongside them.  It would be ludicrous to think he is not on a first name basis with them.  He never claims to be partners or personal friends...he simply say he has them as an alliance, and that is what any good business man would want..Great alliances.  The only difference between truly successful people and the masses is the depth of your database and your alliances, and Dan has great alliances.  I have personally say with him as he had a conversation with Donald Trump.  It was short however Donald know Dan on a first name basis and considers him a alliance and values his opinion and that speaks volumes to me.  As far as Mr. Krause, it would be ludicrous to believe anything except he is trying to make the most amount of money in the least amount of time so he can focus on more important things, like helping other people.  Darrin has made over 150 consecutive successful trades in the forEx.  He will be featured shortly in the Forex Magazine, thats not fluff.  Dan does not trade the forex, never has Darrin does.  He is not a SEC licensed trader he does teach how to do it successfully, you do not have to be licensed to do that, he never trades anyone else's money, people have asked him to and were told no.  He also teaches that the Forex and any type of investment has it's risks.  Every journey begins with a single step.  If you pay for information and knowledge, the only way to get something positive out of it is by acting upon what you know.  If you never act on it you will not be successful.  Dan has lost a lot of money in  ventures, very true.  Who has'nt.  I know alot of guys that have had to backup and regroup, a few would be Donald Trump, Bill Bartmann, myself and another little guy from a little company know as "Apple" Steve Jobs!!!  It does not mean he is not very knowledgeable it does not mean he does not know the proper people to make things happen.  I trust his judgement and value his opinion just as 100's of very successful businessmen do.  I will promise you this, if you do not...it will be to your demise.  There is no doubt if you follow the information Dan gives you have a little fire in your belly and that first step, start your journey with tenacity.  You will be successful.
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