- Report: #728138
Complaint Review: Video Only
| Video Only 290 Andover Park East
Tukwila, Washington United States of America |
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Video Only Deceptive "Return Policy" Tukwila, Washington
*Author of original report: One-year time limit
*Consumer Comment: VIDEO Only Deceptive practices
*Consumer Comment: Karma
*Consumer Comment: Practices are UNCommon
*Consumer Comment: what Video Only will not tell You
*General Comment: I AGREE Video Only PRACTICES ARE HORRIBLE
*Consumer Comment: Very common
*Author of original report: To everyone EXCEPT the commenter(s) above
*Consumer Comment: Learn to comprehend what you read.
*Consumer Comment: OK
*Author of original report: Wording NOT clear at all.
*Consumer Comment: Nevertheless
*Author of original report: NOT a "voice of reason"
*Consumer Comment: Thanks for the warning
*General Comment: Another Di**!
*General Comment: nothing ambiguous about that policy to me
*Consumer Comment: Your kidding right...
*Author of original report: THE ABOVE REBUTTALS ARE HIGHLY SUSPECT
*Consumer Comment: Very clear
*Consumer Comment: settle
*Consumer Comment: Disagree.
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The policy, as printed on Video Onlys invoices, reads:
1) "If for any reason you are unhappy with the equipment you purchase from VIDEO ONLY, you may return it for a FULL REFUND or exchange within 30 days of purchase/delivery. Units must be factory sealed. (emphasis in the original)
2) Opened-box units may be returned for exchange credit only, providing they are in as-new condition with all original packing and accessories. Exchange credits expire 12 months after date of issue.
Store personnel refused to refund my money and instead issued an exchange credit for $208.04, claiming that the last sentence in point 1 of the policy requires that units must be factory sealed at the time of return to qualify for a refund.
That interpretation of that language by Video Only personnel is completely and utterly unsupportable.
The language of the chains 30 Day return policy clearly refers to the equipment (a customer) purchase(s) from VIDEO ONLY. Because a customer must open the box to determine whether s/he is satisfied with the equipment (they) purchase, interpreting the final sentence of point 1 to mean units must be factory sealed at the time of return creates a condition that is impossible to meet.
Electronics stores frequently sell items in an opened-box condition (e.g., floor models and returned items). Because point 2 deals with Opened-box units, a reasonable person would conclude that point 1s final sentence must refer to units sold in factory-sealed cartons, not that they must be factory-sealed to be accepted for a refund.
The people who run and work at Video Only are clearly anything but reasonable.
My attempts to resolve the issue - first through discussions with a salesperson, then with the Regional/Sales Manger resulted in store representatives offering convoluted rationalizations and arguments that were not supported by either the facts or the text of the chains own return policy.
Further attempts to resolve the issue have been fruitless.
Specifically:
- A certified letter sent to owner Peter Edwards was not answered.
- A complaint filed with the Better Business Bureau was not answered.
- The first inquiry filed by the Attorney Generals Office of Consumer
- Protection was not answered.
- A second inquiry by the Attorney Generals Office of Consumer Protection
- resulted in a response which provided the manager's version of some of the details of the transaction but did not address in any way why I was, and continue to be, denied the refund to which I am entitled.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/11/2011 02:36 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Video-Only/Tukwila-Washington-98188/Video-Only-Deceptive-Return-Policy-Tukwila-Washington-728138. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 Author of original report
One-year time limit
AUTHOR: CD - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 04, 2013
In fact, the A/G's office had to write two letters to V/O; they failed to respond to the first. In the second letter, they said that, if my credit was about to expire, I should bring it into the store and they'd issue a new one as many times as necessary.
Involving the A/G's office also adds to their public record about this outfit, so the more people on the A/G's radar, the better the chance that V/O will ultimately be held to account. So my advise is to get the Attorney General's office involved and don't let up.
That said, because my purchase was (thankfully) relatively small, I went back before my $200 credit expired, bought two BluRay/DVD players, and took them straight to a charity where I donated them.
I'm glad someone benefited from my experience, but I will never spend another dollar at Video Only.
#2 Consumer Comment
VIDEO Only Deceptive practices
AUTHOR: Doktordre - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 04, 2013
#3 Consumer Comment
Karma
AUTHOR: Consumer206 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 03, 2013
LG has finally declared my tv as defected and to expensive to repair. LG has ordered them to give me a credit and unfortunately the store manager is still giving me a run around. He's calling corporate for the 2nd time to make sure they have to honor LG ordered returns.
This store manager has no heart, I'm an national account manager for a marketing company and I understand the importance of customer service and repeat/referral business. Exceptions can always be approved with a good claim but this store manager prides himself by enforcing the policy which is fine, if you're heartless.
I believe in karma, if I do not get a resolution I will respect their policy. i read it, i do not agree with it but its their policy.. well their policy does not say how many times someone can exchange a tv... i will buy a brand new tv and exchange it every 2weeks for the next year. Video only will be left with open box models so everyone else can go in and get their tv at a discount. Karma sucks, i cant wait to piss them off with this. haha Cuz I got money to blow
#4 Consumer Comment
Practices are UNCommon
AUTHOR: Doktordre - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
#5 Consumer Comment
what Video Only will not tell You
AUTHOR: Doktordre - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 02, 2012
#6 General Comment
I AGREE Video Only PRACTICES ARE HORRIBLE
AUTHOR: Doktordre - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 06, 2012
I wish I got paychecks from all the companies I have been accused of working for.
Nope, I am a recent retiree from a public school system in the Midwest. I read and post on Ripoffreport because I find it interesting and amusing.
Incidentally, it's irrelevant that you think the return policy is unreasonable, maybe it is, nevertheless, it's their policy and it's very clear to most people. You can't try the product without opening it of course, but that doesn't make their policy less clear which is the point.
Next time read the return policy before you buy something. That's one of the things I've learned to do after reading lots of reports from people dealing with returns.
#8 Author of original report
To everyone EXCEPT the commenter(s) above
AUTHOR: CD - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, July 08, 2011
I posted about my experience on May 11. On the very same day, three other commenters weighed in and all of them were critical of my posting. Fair enough; everyones entitled to their oprion. However and this is important -- NO ONE ELSE COMMENTED, either supporting or criticizing my position until I identified this scam on July 6 (nearly two months) and called these people out. Seems suspicious, doesnt it?
This is a tactic straight out of Social Media 101, which every PR person in the world knows. It goes like this: establish several different accounts with different names and locations, and use those accounts to publish comments supportive of your client and its position.
This tactic is so commonly used that obtuse posters have actually advertised for people with multiple accounts who would be willing to post favorable comments on their behalf on Yelp, TripAdvisor, Citysearch and others. Thats precisely what has happened here.
Still not convinced?
Look at the content of the comments themselves.
They repeatedly refuse to even attempt to answer the basic question at the heart of my issue: How is a person supposed to decide whether theyre happy with the product theyve purchased if they cant take it out of the box and use it?
In my estimation and experience, Video Only has shown itself to be an unscrupulous organization.
This assessment is borne out not only by the negative experiences I and others have had, but now by the companys ill-advised and poorly-executed attempt to cast aspersions on me while attempting to defend its clearly flawed and ambiguously-worded return policy.
STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM THIS OUTFIT AS YOU CAN. It may cost you a few extra bucks to deal with a retailer that is scrupulous and values its integrity but, if you have a problem, it will be worth it.
#9 Consumer Comment
Learn to comprehend what you read.
AUTHOR: Ken - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 07, 2011
Grow up, you are just trying to read something into a very straight-forward return policy, to get your way.
Actually, your report sounds like buyer's remorse.
Gotta go no and collect my payment for this from Video Only. :) ;)
Good luck
#11 Author of original report
Wording NOT clear at all.
AUTHOR: CD - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 07, 2011
Look at THEIR words: "If for any reason you are unhappy with the equipment you purchase from VIDEO ONLY, you may return it for a FULL REFUND or exchange within 30 days of purchase/delivery. Units must be factory sealed." This is exactly as it appears on their invoice, including the CAPS for FULL REFUND.
Pay close attention because THEIR WORDS are specific: "...the equipment you purchase from VIDEO ONLY." Not a store model or demonstrator; "...the equipment you purchase." The ONLY thing you can decide you're unhappy about without opening the box is the price. And a reasonable person investigates price BEFORE making a purchase. Sure, there are occasions where a super deal comes to your attention after a purchase but those occasions are rare.
For the last time, I challenge you: explain how a person can decide they're satisfied with something they purchase without opening the box and using it?
Know what? You can't, because it's simply not possible. And what's more, you won't try because you're in Video Only's pocket, one way or another.
I doubt if their return policy is what will make or break them.
#13 Author of original report
NOT a "voice of reason"
AUTHOR: CD - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
Many, many retailers truly care whether their customers are happy with their products and their liberal return policies are what have, in part, enabled them to grow a large, loyal customer base. There are several I could name, from Costco to Nordstrom.
With its knowledgeable salespeople and low prices, Video Only could be a major player. However, its predatory approach to returns has limited its growth and will keep it where it currently is: among the ranks of the "also-rans". It is my fervent hope that these shysters will be seen for the crooks they are and that they'll soon join the ranks of the Meier & Franks, Frederick & Nelsons, and A&Ps (translation; They'll be out of business.)
#14 Consumer Comment
Thanks for the warning
AUTHOR: Steve K - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
By the way, I agree with your comments about the first three "posters". They sound like shills for V/O. And you're right! How are you supposed to decide whether you're happy with the product if you can't open the box? The only think you could possibly decide is whether you're happy with the price.
Thanks again for the heads-up. I'm staying AWAY!
#15 General Comment
Another Di**!
AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
#16 General Comment
nothing ambiguous about that policy to me
AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
#17 Consumer Comment
Your kidding right...
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
You say that a "reasonable" person would see it your way. Well then you must truly be the only reasonable person because it appears that not only is their policy straight forward, and you are trying to twist it to your benefit. But they have followed their printed policy.
Now you don't stop there. You then compare their return policy to another store(BB). Have you even read the BB return policy? With what you have written my guess would be that is a big fat NO.
It looks like you got full credit. At other stores, if they accepted the item at all, on top of only issuing you a credit would take a 10-25(or more)% restocking fee and deduct that from the credit you get back. So that $208 might magically turn into only $160-$180.
By the way the "You must be employees" statement is generally code for "I don't have anything to back up my claims so I am just going to accuse you of working for the company". And before you ask..NO I have never worked for this company.
#18 Author of original report
THE ABOVE REBUTTALS ARE HIGHLY SUSPECT
AUTHOR: CD - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
As I pointed out in the original review, the first point of the return policy sets a condition that is impossible to meet, rendering Video Only's return policy misleading at best and deceptive at worst.
None of the three suspect "rebuttals" addressed the question at the heart of this matter: How is a consumer supposed to determine whether they're satisfied with the product they purchased without opening the box? After all, that IS what the first point says: "If for any reason you are unhappy with the equipment you purchase from VIDEO ONLY (i.e., not a floor model or demonstrator), you may return it for a FULL REFUND or exchange within 30 days of purchase/delivery.
As I also pointed out, video stores often sell "open-box" items at a discount, and because the second point addresses such items, a reasonable person will conclude that the proviso "Units must be factory sealed" must refer to the condition in which it was sold, not its condition at time of return.
Other electronics retailers such as Best Buy show that they value their customers by having a clear return policy and, more important, honoring it. Video Only's policy is unclear and contradictory, and the company's personnel use this ambiguity to the company's advantage.
Even if you spend a few (and I do mean "few") dollars more, save yourself the potential grief and shop somewhere that will work with you, not against you, if you encounter a problem.
The policy is common, very clear and easily understandable.
Not at all. A plain english reading of the policy makes it very obvious to me. If you decide to return an item that has not been opened (i.e. changed your mind, found a better price), you get the refund. If you returned the item in an "open box" condition (i.e. You broke the factory seal and tried the unit out), then you get the exchange credit. I don't understand why you find this confusing.

