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Complaint Review: Virginia Mobile Homes - Conseco Finance - Green Tree

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  • Submitted: Wed, July 07, 2004
  • Updated: Tue, August 03, 2004

  • Reported By:Leesburg Virginia
Virginia Mobile Homes - Conseco Finance - Green Tree
17870 Fraley Blvd Dumfries, Virginia U.S.A.

Virginia Mobile Homes, Conseco Finance aka Green Tree RIP-OFF! SCAM TO SELL MOBILE HOME THAT WAS NOT AFFORDABLE! Dumfries Virginia

*Consumer Comment: Green Tree's Corporate Address

*Consumer Suggestion: "Deb" I need your help in getting in contact with Green Tree Servicing

*Consumer Comment: FBI has turned case over to local authorities

*Consumer Suggestion: "Deb" I have a feeling that Conseco/Green Tree is definately fraud

*Author of original report: Green Tree threatened to take home

*Author of original report: Good News....FBI agent assigned to our case.

*Consumer Suggestion: "Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

*Consumer Suggestion: "Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

*Consumer Suggestion: "Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

*Consumer Comment: Join the Yahoo Group

*Author of original report: Green Tree to send information.. "kick backs" from Conseco

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In December 2001, my husband bought a Mobile Home from Virginia Mobile Homes (VMH). He had stated to them in September that he could not afford doing this that he was electing not to buy. The company representative, Linda Woodard, immediately called him and said she could "fix" things so that he could afford the home.

To make a long story short, she fixed things alright. She stated to Conseco Finance who is now Green Tree that he had put down 1920.00 where he had only put down 1125.00. Also, she and another employee have also forged or doctored one of his employer verification forms.

We do believe it was the one from the U.S. Navy. Yes, the U.S.Navy. The Administrative Assistant, who happens to be a good friend of ours, saw these two people working on a computer dragging logos down, doing something on the computer, told her to go to her desk that they had everything under control.

Later on they handed her my husband's file. In it was a Employer verification form that was not there the day before. We all believe it has to be from the Navy, because VMH was upset that it was going to take between 2 to 4 weeks to get this information and they could not get the sale finalized until this information was received.

We have been to hell and back with this company since he bought this thing. We have twice tried to list it with VMH to sell it. They are the only Mobile home company in the area that also does resale of mobile homes.

They have us send clients to them per their agreement and if they have a high enough credit score, do they sell our mobile home to them? NOOOOO!!!! They sell them a brand new one. They tell us that all these leads have just disappeared.

Well, I know better. I have had someone watching them for sometime now. I know of at least 3 clients that saw our place, wanted to buy it, and now they are in a brand new home.

As of last night we canceled the listing with them, because we have a potential buyer. We are not taking another chance with them. We have also notified the FBI about the Mortgage fraud. We know of at least 4 other loans that they did the same thing to with Conseco at the time of the sale of my husband's trailer. If anyone out there has bought a trailer from them and financed through Conseco, you might want to contact the Washington DC office of the FBI. You also might be a victim of this Mortgage Fraud.

I just want Virginia Mobile Homes to be brought to justice and for Green Tree to just go away, if not brought to justice also for their tactics. I am terribly afraid that even if we get the certified funds to them, that we will continue to get statements saying we owe money. I have heard and seen so much about them that is scares me to no end. I want this over with once and for all.

Deborah
Leesburg, Virginia
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/07/2004 09:59 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Virginia-Mobile-Homes-Conseco-Finance-Green-Tree/Dumfries-Virginia-22026/Virginia-Mobile-Homes-Conseco-Finance-aka-Green-Tree-RIP-OFF-SCAM-TO-SELL-MOBILE-HOME-TH-97928. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Green Tree's Corporate Address

AUTHOR: Deb - (U.S.A.)

Here is Green Tree's Corporate Address and phone numbers for their legal department. Beware, they never return phone calls, in fact it is a recording. You leave your name and number and no one ever returns your calls. I usually fax all of my correspondence to either the paralegal Katy Roskam or the General Council David A. Shwartz that is on their letters to me constantly.

Green Tree Servicing LLC
Corporate Legal Department
300 Landmark Towers
345 St. Peter Street
Saint Paul, MN. 55102-1637
Phone 651-293-4800
Fax 651-293-5818

Paralegal- Katy M. Roskam
General Counsel- David A. Schwartz

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

"Deb" I need your help in getting in contact with Green Tree Servicing

AUTHOR: LeWanda - (U.S.A.)

Debrobah, I need your help in getting in contact with Green Tree Servicing, LLC. I need an address and person to serve some papers. The Green Tree Servicing, LLC/Conseco, in Tempe, Arizona office is not giving me the correct information about where to serve papers to or anything, which it does not surprise me. They gave me this department name/address, but no telephone number and name.

The lady did not even know the names of the C.E.O. in the company. The name of their department is C.P. Corp and the address is 3225 North Central Avenue, Phonix, Arizona 85012.

I called information this morning to see if I could get a telephone number to contact them and of course, a dead end. This is the only address that I have, which is 7360 Kyrene Road, Tempe, Arizona. Is there anyway that I can get the appropriate address because obviously, Green Tree Servicng,LLC/Conseco is not going to tell the truth about anything. Please help me, "Deb." Post that info below please.
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#3 Consumer Comment

FBI has turned case over to local authorities

AUTHOR: Deb - (U.S.A.)

LeWanda,
The FBI has turned the case over to the local authorities because Green Tree/Conseco is not a FDIC insured institution. The Feds cannot touch them. I am meeting with an attorney this week because once we notified them that our loan was fraudulent they have sent us a certified Notice of Default and Right to Cure Default. As you might know in the State of Virginia you cannot default a loan unless it is 90 days past due. We are no where near 90 days.

This is being done because we have notified them that this is a fraudulent loan. I have sent in another rebuttle explaining some things about Conseco, please read it. Green Tree is basically trying to default ALL loans period. Please, if you can get an attorney as soon as possible or you will eventually lose your home. Green Tree is as dirty if not worse than Conseco. They are a predatory lender and need to be stopped. Will update after talking to attorney
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

"Deb" I have a feeling that Conseco/Green Tree is definately fraud

AUTHOR: LeWanda - (U.S.A.)

A couple of weeks ago, I received something from Green Tree Servicing, LLC stating that I need to pay my taxes off. Last week, I called their tax department in Durham, North Carolina and believe it or not, it said on the recording that there number has changed.

It is the same telephone number that Conseco Finance Corporation had when they were in business. For all we know, they could use a hotel room or some abandon house to make it seem like it is a big corporation. I called this so-called new telephone number, which is the same number in Tempe, Arizona and no answered or yet, the number is not in service.

Something tells me in my gut feeling they are still scaming people. You know that foreclosures are big business and that is how they really make their longest green. If you get time, please let your agent know about this, also, I am working on a couple of more things here. I will keep in touch.
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#5 Author of original report

Green Tree threatened to take home

AUTHOR: Deborah - (U.S.A.)

Last evening we received a telephone call from Green Tree's collection department our regular person, Devon Hennenberry. At first the conversation was very polite. When we explained that the situation was now in the FBI's hands and we were meeting with them today, July 20, 2004 and after the meeting we would know whether or not we could go ahead and make June's payment we would let her know. She then became irrate.

She stated that we were doing things that were convenient for us. That we had not made a payment since April, not true, they deferred March, April and May payments because of problems with prior tenant. That why now were we claiming that this was an illegal loan? Because once we threw out our tenants and realized that there was a scam involved between the dealer, the mortgage company and the park manager, we dug deeper into the loan, we realized the loan was fraudulent.

She then refused to speak any longer. We could hear her in the background but would not answer any questions. My husband was on the extension asking questions. When she finally did speak she said that she personally was defaulting the loan. It is only 30 days past due and a good reason behind it.

We have a qualified buyer but are afraid to sell because we have the possibility of being sued once the investigation is over and criminal charges are brought, they buyer would then lose the home. We don't want to do anything until this afternoon. We have faxed a letter to the Regional Manager stating everything, including that we will be requestion additional agents to start investigating Green Tree itself, including their Corporate Headquarters.

I WILL NOT be threatened by anyone. I have my foot in the door with the FBI and I plan to open that door as wide as I can now to include Green Tree into this mess. I know for a fact that my husband was approved by a local bank for the same loan at 3% lower, but lied to by the dealer. I want to see Green Tree closed down forever!! I have seen the posts on here about people losing their homes and if by some small chance I can help just one person out there I am going to do it. This is the most disgusting company I have ever dealt with.

They lie to their benefit, and when you try to correct the with the truth the refuse to respond. Oh yes, they do have caller id, when my husband called back, Devon answered but refused to speak. He then called a 3rd time and went directly to voice mail. He left a very polite but detailed message that the events of the evening were going to be passed on to the agent we meet today. We will NOT put up with their crap. I will update again as soon as I have more information.
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#6 Author of original report

Good News....FBI agent assigned to our case.

AUTHOR: Deborah - (U.S.A.)

We got some fantastic news late yesterday afternoon, we have an FBI agent assigned to our case. Don't know what will come of it, but it will include Green Tree because they hold the fraudulent loan. For those out there don't give up. Keep fighting. Please, please contact you local FBI office, they can help you. You just have to contact them. We did and now we are getting some help. I will post again once we meet with our agent.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

"Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

AUTHOR: LeWanda - (U.S.A.)

"Deb"

My name is LeWanda and I got your message. Right now, I am in tears because Conseco/Green Tree Servicing,LLC have scam so many of us it hurts. My seven year old is still having nightmares about losing her home. I am so happy that you have respond back to me. It has been a terrible nightmare for everyone. Thank you so much, for contacting the F.B.I. because they need to know.

The people that forged my signature and my sister's signature, the foreclosure business is located in Leesburg, Virginia believe or not. They are located on Market Street in Leesburg. "Deb" I want you to know do not give up and I will keep praying for you, me, and everyone. This company has been a bad seed in our lives. "Deb" Thank you and God Bless you. I will keep you posted.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

"Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

AUTHOR: LeWanda - (U.S.A.)

"Deb"

My name is LeWanda and I got your message. Right now, I am in tears because Conseco/Green Tree Servicing,LLC have scam so many of us it hurts. My seven year old is still having nightmares about losing her home. I am so happy that you have respond back to me. It has been a terrible nightmare for everyone. Thank you so much, for contacting the F.B.I. because they need to know.

The people that forged my signature and my sister's signature, the foreclosure business is located in Leesburg, Virginia believe or not. They are located on Market Street in Leesburg. "Deb" I want you to know do not give up and I will keep praying for you, me, and everyone. This company has been a bad seed in our lives. "Deb" Thank you and God Bless you. I will keep you posted.
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"Deb" Thank You, For Responding To Me

AUTHOR: LeWanda - (U.S.A.)

"Deb"

My name is LeWanda and I got your message. Right now, I am in tears because Conseco/Green Tree Servicing,LLC have scam so many of us it hurts. My seven year old is still having nightmares about losing her home. I am so happy that you have respond back to me. It has been a terrible nightmare for everyone. Thank you so much, for contacting the F.B.I. because they need to know.

The people that forged my signature and my sister's signature, the foreclosure business is located in Leesburg, Virginia believe or not. They are located on Market Street in Leesburg. "Deb" I want you to know do not give up and I will keep praying for you, me, and everyone. This company has been a bad seed in our lives. "Deb" Thank you and God Bless you. I will keep you posted.
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#10 Consumer Comment

Join the Yahoo Group

AUTHOR: Lilly - (U.S.A.)

A group of people have started a chat room on Yahoo to discuss our Conseco/Green Tree problems.
Go to Yahoo.com and search "groups". The name of the group is "consecogtvics" (Conseco Green Tree Victims)....there is power in numbers and as people join and the word spreads, we can also send them back to this site to file their complaints. This site is awesome and has been so helpful to many, many people.
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#11 Author of original report

Green Tree to send information.. "kick backs" from Conseco

AUTHOR: Deborah - (U.S.A.)

We have spoken to Green Tree who has since bought out Conseco Finance. They are sending us all supplemental information on this loan so that we can see exactly what Virginia Mobile Homes sent them. We know that there was some paperwork sent that was completely forged. Now we will know everything that was sent. Also found out that my husband was approved by another bank at a lower interest rate but Virginia Mobile Homes told him that he was only accepted by Conseco at a higher rate, why? Because they receive a "kick back" for every loan they place with Conseco. First of all he should never had received loan, he did not qualify and if he had qualified he could have gotten rate 3% lower. FRAUD, FRAUD, FRAUD.
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