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  • Submitted: Sun, March 04, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, March 05, 2012

  • Reported By: Bill — Australia Other Australia
Visions2005 Saffire
Internet United States of America

Visions2005 Saffire Saffire = Rosan gave me false hope and lied to me, never got anything right., spent over 20 thousands dollars as she said it would really help get my love back. always asked for money normal or special deals or frien Internet

*Author of original report: Saffire

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Please also note

*Consumer Comment: A low life

*Consumer Comment: Pure fraud

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Update

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Update

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Please be Advised of Vassili

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Broke up with fiance after 8 years, found Saffire and visions2005 via google. Paid for quick reading. Explained my details and situation. Saffire told me that things world work out if she did some service for me. Saffire told me I didn't have any chance unless she gave her clarity etc and only she could do at a cost.

Saffire constantly told me that I needed further services to help her out and myself. I love my ex partner and still do and would love her to come back. So after Saffire convincing me that I needed these services I paid fit them always promptly.

Throughout the next few months I continued to pay for her services. Normal services, then special price services.then mates rates etc. always wanted me to spend money few times a day over 1k a few times

After a few months of paying and paying she was telling me to wait and wait and wait. Nothing came true even when she said I call this to happen it didn't. I waited over 2 months and paid over 20 thousand dollars and still nothing, at the same time Saffire still pushing me to purchase more services.

In the end nothing happened what she said and I asked and asked and she said wait again. Saffire slowly stopped talking to me and not being online as was for previous months.

I asked her about the money I paid and services and nothing happened and she got angry and bad with me and still wanted to offer me more services.

I asked Saffire for refund due to nothing coming true nothing happening etc and obviously spent so much money and she wanted more money.

Filed dispute with Paypal and within 3-4 days I had 6500 back from Saffire via Paypal dispute. She tried to chat to me asking to pay off 50 a week as she no longer has the 20000 I paid her. Paypal could only recover 45 days if Paypal payments, also she was saying she paid it on tax and that herself and her husband are very sick and the money I paid is gone.

Saffire still have approx 14000 of my money that i'm trying to get back as by now I knew I was taken for a ride and it was all about the money and scam and fraud.I feel like such a fool, but she played me and my love for my ex fiance.

I am filling with police and my bank due to Saffire scamming me, fraud etc. currently she is getting investigated by Paypal about my situation and the money in question. Paypal had told me that it was the max they could get back for me and I should goto police and my bank and they would be happy to provide any details regarding me and Saffire to help me get my money back.

Do not trust these people, they are fake and full of false hope preying on sad upset and depressed people only wanting answers and their loved ones back. While they taking your money and feeding you only what you want to hear. To date she still says wait to me as she will come back. But as it stands she has moved on and does not ever want to come back.

Will post and follow up police and back proceedings.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 03/04/2012 05:54 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Visions2005-Saffire/internet/Visions2005-Saffire-Saffire-Rosan-gave-me-false-hope-and-lied-to-me-never-got-anything-848421. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Author of original report

Saffire

AUTHOR: Bill - (Australia)

thanx everyone for your support.

can't believe i got fooled, she was wrong about everything. I MEAN EVERYTHING

Saffire, sure share the emails. remember i have them also, always asking for money for this and that.

do what you like, police, bank & solicitor already looking into this for me.
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AUTHOR: Saffire - (United States of America)

That I do remain with Guidance that was given it will not change,  he is speaking of another psychic he went to which told him this he has no way of knowing unless he is doing something he should not.

This has been reported to law enforcement locally.

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#3 Consumer Comment

A low life

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

In addition to being a fraud, you are also a bold faced liar.  You did not work on this poor guys problems day and night and you know it.  That's absurd.

If you REALLY were a psychic I expect you could be a zillionaire by now because, of course, you could see what lottery numbers are, who wins games and on and on.  You would not be whining on a web site about how poor you are.  Get a real job and maybe you'd be in better shape.

Although, I expect you are still ripping other poor suckers off and you have plenty of money.

Your rebuttal is ridiculous.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Pure fraud

AUTHOR: Ramjet - (U.S.A.)

You, saffire, or whatever your name really is, are a complete utter 100% fraud and you know it.

I know there is no such thing as a psychic or any of the other ridiculous paranormal claptrap and so do you.  Your only purpose is to ripoff poor desperate fools like the poor person who posted this report.

You have taken him for many thousands of dollars and now he is pissed and is going after you.  All I can say is that you deserve everything you get.  Do you really think you can completely steal from people and never get any repercussions from it? 

You are among the lowest of the low by preying on poor desperate people at their most vulnerable.  You should be ashamed of yourself but I'm certain you don't have enough conscience for that.

To the OP:  I sure hope you have learned your lesson and additionally that you understand there are NO psychics anywhere and never have been.  They just have a bunch of sleazy well known procedures that make poor people like you think they have special powers.  Cold reading that any amateur magician is familiar, Internet searches, fishing, databases. shared data, impressive sounding silly magical words and etc.  are just a very few.

Please do not give any of them any more money and I wish you luck with your search for justice.

To saffire (or whatever your real name is) Get an honest job.
 
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AUTHOR: Saffire - (United States of America)

This situation has now been notified to local law enforcement and was told how to proceed.

Saffire



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AUTHOR: Saffire - (United States of America)

This situation has now been notified to local law enforcement and was told how to proceed.

Saffire



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Please be Advised of Vassili

AUTHOR: Saffire - (United States of America)

Where to begin,  this has been quite an ordeal of stalking, harrassment and accusations which in turn began mid to end of December when Vassili came to the site for a Reading, I offered Guidance as I saw it and felt it to be,  I did tell him she was to return within 2 weeks, which at the time she would have unfortunately according to police audio which was sent to me by him, she was wanting to work things out with him.  But he did what he did from his own will and choosing.  He then sent me 1000 voluntarily and I did not originally wish to expect saying this was much money and if he was certain, I have all records of documentations.  He asked me to help any and all services that can help.  I said there are services which I do for other clients and that was up to him.  He said whatever you feel will help please.  So Energy work, Spiritual work, Chakra work, Healing work, Self confidence work for her, Daily empaths, Prayers/Candle work, and each with a report.  I worked day and night for nearly 2 months , which his services included psychic email replies.  He also received or purchased 58 hours of chat time which regular fee is 2.99 a minute on the site but he did not pay this not even close.  But bottom line he came to me a distraught man who lost his g/f and my heart went out to him and since he was feeling this way I could not pick up energy other than his upset.  Mid way he began changing his behaviour got worse,  I did say that come March till end of his services that he paid me for that was it there would be no further.   I cannot materialize anyone or anything which made clear to him I can only work and do my best to help their situation get better which I do feel she will return his way.  Time frames are approximate always,  sometimes they are right on sometimes they are not due to ones own choosing or simply due to Spirit world.  Since this time,  I had continued the work intensely to provide the most Spiritual help possible, he then began to become angered, threatening wanting results,  I have made clear to the client that it does not work this way and confirmation will come as again it is Spiritual not like one goes to the store and purchases a loaf of bread.  I was there night and day for him, through email , chat till the moment I went to sleep at night and upon awakening in the morning.  I never said he needed any services,  but when is work was near done, I inquired if he was okay now as I needed to schedule myself accordingly for the time ahead.  He asked me what I advised him to do, I replied that the more work done the better which is truth, as I do the same for those near to me but that again it was up to him.  I have every and each communication of this as well.  He wanted me to give him back 6000 and when she materialized back to him that he would in turn give me back the 6000 ,  I told him I did not have it, he said"what did you do with the money" it had to go somewhere,  I explained my personal situation and where the money did go, which I did not have to do, he demanded" that I prove who I was" he wanted personal details, he "threatened to go to paypal" if I did not, which I felt no need to give him personal details of myself, other than first name which he asked me a while back in chat room so I did give him this.  So he went to Paypal,  Paypal as a no buyer or seller protection for intangibles/services I was told, and that although he bought in claims he would not receive the funds not to worry, but the emails from him kept coming,  which of one is this......... I have numerous emails but so that it is out there to those that he does go to services for to be very very cautious..I will post the emails after I complete, so back to Paypal,  I kept calling paypal as this has devstated not only myself but family which husband is not doing well physically.  I told them that I wished to refund him so that he would go away and stop harrassing me, they said we will refund for you and you will need to repay us which I am doing.  So his requested refund of 6000 was refunded actually 6500.00 there were amounts that did not correspond with what I had but gave anyway.  He has not stopped, now he is here posting things that are not truth and unfortunately for him this will not be beneficial to him.  It is quite a long long journey so it feels to be for me,  I have been Reading for a very long time online never has this ever happened as there is no reason for this to happen other than someone harrassing, defaming me and reputation as well threats that keep coming, stalking me.  I have taken action thus far in the way it is needed to handle this matter this far but now will be seeking protection. I do not owe him 20K  he may have gone to other Psychics as he did tell me he did. 

I have emails to show which I am debating if I should post here or not at this time.  He requested a chat and I had someone sit next to me while I was in chat with him although logs I wanted someone to see what was going on,  he requested this chat so that"we can work something out"  so I obliged and said 10 mins or 15 mins and have tried to complay to all he wanted but now it is not stopping.

What did I do wrongly ever Reading for him, and speaking of the services I do and offer as he requested.

I would advise all Sites and Psychic Readers out there not to Read for him as you will only get yourself in the same situation I am currently in

Saffire

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