• Report: #186372

Complaint Review: WARTENA CHIHUAHUAS JENS CHI 3344 Gray Mare WayBABIES

  • Submitted: Wed, April 12, 2006
  • Updated: Sat, March 24, 2012

  • Reported By:Roseville California
WARTENA CHIHUAHUAS JENS CHI 3344 Gray Mare WayBABIES
3344 Grey Mare Way Antelope, California U.S.A.

WARTENA CHIHUAHUAS Jennifer Wartena ,,Jennifer Wartena. Jenschibabies.com BEWARE!- MANY ADDRESSES, LOTS OF PHONE NUMBERS, BIG CRIMINAL HISTORY Antelope California

*Consumer Comment: Don't be fooled by the negative comments. Got the cutest puppy from Jennifer's Chihuahua.

*Consumer Comment: Jen's Chihuahua's Are the Best

*Consumer Comment: Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

*Consumer Comment: Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

*Consumer Comment: Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

*Consumer Comment: Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I am posting this on the other Buyers reports to help them against this fraud.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Debra Drury VS Debbie Mccooeye This has got to STOP

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Debra Drury VS Debbie Mccooeye This has got to STOP

*Consumer Comment: Another email to a friend

*Consumer Comment: Another email to a friend

*Consumer Comment: Another email to a friend

*Consumer Comment: Another email to a friend

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BEWARE-This person is a crook!. My puppy died in one week. ! CALFIORNIA PUPPY LAWS SAY SHE HAS TO PAY ME BACK!!! Jenn says it was low blood sugar and no warranty on it, but my puppys Veteranian said Caccidiosis and Gardia!. DO NOT TRUST HER !. I did a people search on her AFTER my puppy died and WOW WOW WOW. Big criminal records ! Moves every year. Her phone numbers are under other persons names. David Rand, Tracy Rand .I CAN NOT SUE HER BECAUSE SHE HAS SO MANY ADDRESSES!!! IF ANYONE KNOWS HER REAL ADDRESS PLEASE TELL ME. PLEASE I BEG YOU. Where I met her she does not seem to live anymore. This is another address of hers 5172 Soverson Way Antelope California

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#1 Consumer Comment

Don't be fooled by the negative comments. Got the cutest puppy from Jennifer's Chihuahua.

AUTHOR: Lisa Faulkner - (Canada)

Hello,
My name is Lisa. I been searching the internet for the perfect puppy and came across Jennifer's chihuahua website and instantly fell in love with a long haired tri colored chi with the most adorable face. I inquired about her since I live in Canada and heard all kinds of scams about people paying an outrageous amount for their chihuahua's and never getting them. I also read all these reviews and it seems that the only time people have something negative to say is when they are angry and do not get their way and misread the contract.

I went ahead and sent Jen the payment after weeks of her asking about who I was, where I came from, what I did and etc. To see if I was a suitable forever home for her babies. We recieved Mary who is known as Luna now when she was ready to go at 10 weeks and she was just as adorable and sweet as her picture. Her demeanor is excellent and has the most friendly and playful atittude. She is also healthy. She is a doll and we absolutely adore her and would recommend anyone who is looking for a great addition to your family to check out Jennifer's Chihuahuas. She is true to her word, don't be fooled by all the negative comments. 

I do not know Jen personally and only dealt with her while inquiring about my chi but I wanted to share my experience and how well everything went so that others who are in the process of wanting a Jen's chihuahua to go ahead and make the right choice and not by believing the negative things said about her.

Lisa F
Calgary, Alberta
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Jen's Chihuahua's Are the Best

AUTHOR: K''ren - (United States of America)

Wow, I am shocked to find this. First off, I am so sorry to hear about your puppy. It is so sad when you lose little babies. I've lost my fair share of babies in my life. Still, it does happen. Sometimes as a breeder, you have no control over what happens to a puppy. That said, I purchased an amazing little dog from Jen just over 2 years ago. She went to the doctor and was run through all types of tests. I wanted to make sure she was healthy and that we wouldn't have any problems. Other than a little sneeze occasionally (which happens with chi's because they're proned to having allergies), she was the picture of health. In fact, I can tell you that Reese is probably the most well adjusted, beautiful, amazng little dog I've ever known. She's playful, loving, understanding, VERY intelligent and is better behaved than a lab. I'm completely serious. She's not a barker, she doesn't bite or nip at people, she's not nervous and she even talks to you if you're having an apple. Honestly, I have people that can't believe she's a chihuahua because she's so awesome and not a day of training in her life. Not only can I tell you that Jen has the most amazing Chi's I've ever seen, but I refer everyone I know to her. I know you lost your little puppy, but I find it hard to believe that Jen didn't find a way to get you a new puppy. I was so worried about Reese when she first came home because she did have a bit of separation anxiety and I called Jen and she would talk me down off the ceiling. She was just great. But ultimately, when your new baby comes home with you, you have the responsability to care for it. I would say to any new owner...if you have a concern, please see your Vet. The breeder can't make a diagnosis over the phone. They can only go by what you tell them. Also, both bugs are treatable. It can be challenging to treat, but they get it and you have to be diligent in treating it. I hope everything turned out and that you were able to find a new baby. As for me, I will continue to refer my friends to her for amazing chi's.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

She is now using my name. I never even got my puppy she promised. She said she gave it to Jodie for sending her emails. Debra Drury is a fraud! She is using my name!
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Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

She is now using my name. I never even got my puppy she promised. She said she gave it to Jodie for sending her emails. Debra Drury is a fraud! She is using my name!
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Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

She is now using my name. I never even got my puppy she promised. She said she gave it to Jodie for sending her emails. Debra Drury is a fraud! She is using my name!
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Debra Drury quit using my name in vain

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

She is now using my name. I never even got my puppy she promised. She said she gave it to Jodie for sending her emails. Debra Drury is a fraud! She is using my name!
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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

I am posting this on the other Buyers reports to help them against this fraud.

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

Record 1

Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA
Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 90F11087
Offense Date 12/20/1990
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY


Record 2

Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA

Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 104448
Offense Date 05/07/1991
Offense County Sacramento


Record 3

Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA
Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 92F04356
Offense Date 05/18/1992
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY



Record 4


Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA

Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 93F06962
Offense Date 08/18/1993
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY
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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Debra Drury VS Debbie Mccooeye This has got to STOP

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I am writing this to you Debbie to say thank you for trying to stick up for me. I know where your heart is and you will be blessed.

I just think it may be best to leave this alone. I know you went through 7 months of just the worse time of your life with Gomez being sick, and Debra running you through the dirt with everything you two went through. When you contacted me about Gomez, I was shocked, of course, how can any breeder act this way? to make a long story short, you worked your butt off and prevailed. I know there were many times you wanted to quit, your husband needs a big pat on the back or a smooch. I am grateful you finally got some of your money back but it will never replace the loss your family will feel when the time comes for Gomez to go. I am grateful Debra came around, I think that was one of the most honorable things she could of done.

I know how you felt when you were able to successfully get (won't mention any names here) their money back too. I remember you emailing me and feeling so good about how you had spent 3 days on the computer negotiating for this other person and once again Debra stepped up to the plate and came good. BUT do you not see that everytime someone comes forward it will always be pointed to me that I am the writer? never once have, nor will I, publish a false report against anyone. Anyways, I know you were on cloud nine for helping someone who literally gave up at times, kind of like you did huh? Then shortly after along comes Jodie, I know you wanted to help more then anything. I never in my wildest dreams thought you were communicating with Debra again and that is fine but what were the motives? I know you never pushed Jodie to do anything, I seen the emails, you were quite calm and never once suggested anything I thought would be of bad or poor advice.

Debbie, you cannot save all these ladies. I think Jodie does not realize all you did for her. I know Debra was at your mercy on what to do about Jodie and you convinced Debra to just pay her back and once again Debra come forward, and I thought it was in poor taste for Jodie to write that report, I truly thought Debra paid Jodie as quick as possible, did she pay all? no, should she of paid all? in my opinion YES. I was real proud of you. You are one hell of a trooper.

It was shocking to see that email where Debra admitted that I was right, that your situation went way to far and she should of stepped up to the plate way back in the beginning. Once again another honorable move on Debra's part. Just to admit when one is wrong is a real break through.

Unfortunately you coming forward on ripoff to send your feelings to the other ladies is now back firing in my face. All these false reports about me will never effect who I am or how I raise my dogs. I am not vulnerable as you say, I have no reason to be. I am comfortable in my skin. I do think everyone on here who puts up a report should attach proof. I think it is way to easy to create accounts (as we can clearly see) of victims. That is insane!

My final thought here to you Debbie is, I know how much you just want to help, but I think it will be up to Debra and her God as to what her morals and ethics are. We have seen the good and bad of her (more bad then good that is for sure) this is something she needs to live with and sleep with every day and night.

Once again I commend her on taking in the stray cats, I think that is the most honorable thing you can do is to help out Gods creatures. I also want to thank Debra for forcing me to find out somethings, and it came down to, now I know some of the most reputable breeders in CA from Redding to LA and I have some of the most wonderful mentors I could of ever met. I think my breeding program will be taking a huge turn for the better and my name alone will sky rocket to the top of the show names with the dogs I have now. I am so excited to be apart of these other women's lives.

So once again even though my name is getting dragged through the mud, I am so excited for the up coming month, year, decade that it will not matter nor hurt me. Anyone who has dealt with me knows my heart is in the Chihuahuas no matter where or who they got it from, my job is clear, I will always be available to help any and all who share the love and joy of a Chihuahua.

I plan on keeping these morals and ethics and it will show when we finally hit the rings. So, Debbie, you need to be the wonderful person you are but let these ladies take care of them selves. I know you are a Super Woman but somethings are best left alone. Let these ladies decide if they want go on the ride you did. It is not up to you. If Debra wanted to know if they are fake reports, such as Bella and I think we all know who did that. Then she needs to do as I do and offer them 10,000 for proof.

Debra, if and when you want to talk to me, you know my number. I am more then happy to speak to you about anything you would like to talk about. I know we have been through similar things, ex's, I bet mine were worse then yours. I would bet money on that. You want to bring up 16 year old stuff you have no idea what I went through nor my children. I am ok with it though. If it was not for my past, I would not be who I am today, and I am very comfortable in my skin and so grateful for the gifts God has entrusted me with.

I feel all these reports about you are something to look at as a learning experience. Always remember the past will come to haunt you. Keep your nose clean and clean up the wreckage of your past as it comes. Quit blaming "Breeder Bashers", "Jealous Breeders", "people out to ruin you", and then find out they are actual like Jenn. You even sent Debbie an email saying you now know I am not the one who wrote that. Thanks for being honest again. before pointing fingers, ask questions, go through your emails and then respond with the 10,000 for proof. Make sure you are positive you are not in the wrong of course.

Do onto others as you would want them to do to you.

Happy and proud to be Wartenaschihuahuas.com
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Debra Drury VS Debbie Mccooeye This has got to STOP

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I am writing this to you Debbie to say thank you for trying to stick up for me. I know where your heart is and you will be blessed.

I just think it may be best to leave this alone. I know you went through 7 months of just the worse time of your life with Gomez being sick, and Debra running you through the dirt with everything you two went through. When you contacted me about Gomez, I was shocked, of course, how can any breeder act this way? to make a long story short, you worked your butt off and prevailed. I know there were many times you wanted to quit, your husband needs a big pat on the back or a smooch. I am grateful you finally got some of your money back but it will never replace the loss your family will feel when the time comes for Gomez to go. I am grateful Debra came around, I think that was one of the most honorable things she could of done.

I know how you felt when you were able to successfully get (won't mention any names here) their money back too. I remember you emailing me and feeling so good about how you had spent 3 days on the computer negotiating for this other person and once again Debra stepped up to the plate and came good. BUT do you not see that everytime someone comes forward it will always be pointed to me that I am the writer? never once have, nor will I, publish a false report against anyone. Anyways, I know you were on cloud nine for helping someone who literally gave up at times, kind of like you did huh? Then shortly after along comes Jodie, I know you wanted to help more then anything. I never in my wildest dreams thought you were communicating with Debra again and that is fine but what were the motives? I know you never pushed Jodie to do anything, I seen the emails, you were quite calm and never once suggested anything I thought would be of bad or poor advice.

Debbie, you cannot save all these ladies. I think Jodie does not realize all you did for her. I know Debra was at your mercy on what to do about Jodie and you convinced Debra to just pay her back and once again Debra come forward, and I thought it was in poor taste for Jodie to write that report, I truly thought Debra paid Jodie as quick as possible, did she pay all? no, should she of paid all? in my opinion YES. I was real proud of you. You are one hell of a trooper.

It was shocking to see that email where Debra admitted that I was right, that your situation went way to far and she should of stepped up to the plate way back in the beginning. Once again another honorable move on Debra's part. Just to admit when one is wrong is a real break through.

Unfortunately you coming forward on ripoff to send your feelings to the other ladies is now back firing in my face. All these false reports about me will never effect who I am or how I raise my dogs. I am not vulnerable as you say, I have no reason to be. I am comfortable in my skin. I do think everyone on here who puts up a report should attach proof. I think it is way to easy to create accounts (as we can clearly see) of victims. That is insane!

My final thought here to you Debbie is, I know how much you just want to help, but I think it will be up to Debra and her God as to what her morals and ethics are. We have seen the good and bad of her (more bad then good that is for sure) this is something she needs to live with and sleep with every day and night.

Once again I commend her on taking in the stray cats, I think that is the most honorable thing you can do is to help out Gods creatures. I also want to thank Debra for forcing me to find out somethings, and it came down to, now I know some of the most reputable breeders in CA from Redding to LA and I have some of the most wonderful mentors I could of ever met. I think my breeding program will be taking a huge turn for the better and my name alone will sky rocket to the top of the show names with the dogs I have now. I am so excited to be apart of these other women's lives.

So once again even though my name is getting dragged through the mud, I am so excited for the up coming month, year, decade that it will not matter nor hurt me. Anyone who has dealt with me knows my heart is in the Chihuahuas no matter where or who they got it from, my job is clear, I will always be available to help any and all who share the love and joy of a Chihuahua.

I plan on keeping these morals and ethics and it will show when we finally hit the rings. So, Debbie, you need to be the wonderful person you are but let these ladies take care of them selves. I know you are a Super Woman but somethings are best left alone. Let these ladies decide if they want go on the ride you did. It is not up to you. If Debra wanted to know if they are fake reports, such as Bella and I think we all know who did that. Then she needs to do as I do and offer them 10,000 for proof.

Debra, if and when you want to talk to me, you know my number. I am more then happy to speak to you about anything you would like to talk about. I know we have been through similar things, ex's, I bet mine were worse then yours. I would bet money on that. You want to bring up 16 year old stuff you have no idea what I went through nor my children. I am ok with it though. If it was not for my past, I would not be who I am today, and I am very comfortable in my skin and so grateful for the gifts God has entrusted me with.

I feel all these reports about you are something to look at as a learning experience. Always remember the past will come to haunt you. Keep your nose clean and clean up the wreckage of your past as it comes. Quit blaming "Breeder Bashers", "Jealous Breeders", "people out to ruin you", and then find out they are actual like Jenn. You even sent Debbie an email saying you now know I am not the one who wrote that. Thanks for being honest again. before pointing fingers, ask questions, go through your emails and then respond with the 10,000 for proof. Make sure you are positive you are not in the wrong of course.

Do onto others as you would want them to do to you.

Happy and proud to be Wartenaschihuahuas.com
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Another email to a friend

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

Here is another email I wrote to a friend last week. BEFORE I posted on ripoff. Notice my concern is for Jennifer.

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Debbie" View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: RIPOFF
To: "A friend"

Hey you can vent to me anytime. Who else would understand but me??

Well she replied that Candace will be a big girl. I asked about 4 times for more info but she does not reply. So she goes on ripoff and says how I am getting pup and such then she ignores me. Go figure. LOL I wouldnt take her anyway. BUT.. if I decide to get involved I have emails. LOL

Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty.

The one lady complains that Debra breached their contract. Wellll she breached ours too!!! She was under contract that she could not print anything online about me. She broke that agreement. I sent her a really really nasty email. Swearing and all. LOL. She replied pleading for me to not get involved. She was scared of me and I could smash her (emotionally). LOL If I wanted to, I could destroy all her stuff in one rebuttal. I have enough evidence to support each and every one of those people. Even the Mexican lady. Debra told her to go to Mexico to get a dog. I believe that 100%. She told me she treated me so horrible because I was Canadian.

There are 3-4 of them on there right now. It is up to them at this point. I am sure if they contacted the DA, I would be called in for info. I would have no choice but to give up what I have.

Sounds like that APril is pretty smart. She went on there and picked apart the email I wrote Debra. She pegged it when she said I was muzzled. She doesnt know my muzzle is hanging around my neck loos though. LOL

I will definitely keep you updated. At this point, I dont think I will get involved. Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it.

Have a great sprign break.

Deb
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Quotes From above:

"Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty."

"Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it."
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Well surprise, surprise. I DID risk it and this week there is a ripoff about Jennifer here.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Another email to a friend

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

Here is another email I wrote to a friend last week. BEFORE I posted on ripoff. Notice my concern is for Jennifer.

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Debbie" View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: RIPOFF
To: "A friend"

Hey you can vent to me anytime. Who else would understand but me??

Well she replied that Candace will be a big girl. I asked about 4 times for more info but she does not reply. So she goes on ripoff and says how I am getting pup and such then she ignores me. Go figure. LOL I wouldnt take her anyway. BUT.. if I decide to get involved I have emails. LOL

Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty.

The one lady complains that Debra breached their contract. Wellll she breached ours too!!! She was under contract that she could not print anything online about me. She broke that agreement. I sent her a really really nasty email. Swearing and all. LOL. She replied pleading for me to not get involved. She was scared of me and I could smash her (emotionally). LOL If I wanted to, I could destroy all her stuff in one rebuttal. I have enough evidence to support each and every one of those people. Even the Mexican lady. Debra told her to go to Mexico to get a dog. I believe that 100%. She told me she treated me so horrible because I was Canadian.

There are 3-4 of them on there right now. It is up to them at this point. I am sure if they contacted the DA, I would be called in for info. I would have no choice but to give up what I have.

Sounds like that APril is pretty smart. She went on there and picked apart the email I wrote Debra. She pegged it when she said I was muzzled. She doesnt know my muzzle is hanging around my neck loos though. LOL

I will definitely keep you updated. At this point, I dont think I will get involved. Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it.

Have a great sprign break.

Deb
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Quotes From above:

"Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty."

"Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it."
------------------------------------------------

Well surprise, surprise. I DID risk it and this week there is a ripoff about Jennifer here.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Another email to a friend

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

Here is another email I wrote to a friend last week. BEFORE I posted on ripoff. Notice my concern is for Jennifer.

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Debbie" View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: RIPOFF
To: "A friend"

Hey you can vent to me anytime. Who else would understand but me??

Well she replied that Candace will be a big girl. I asked about 4 times for more info but she does not reply. So she goes on ripoff and says how I am getting pup and such then she ignores me. Go figure. LOL I wouldnt take her anyway. BUT.. if I decide to get involved I have emails. LOL

Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty.

The one lady complains that Debra breached their contract. Wellll she breached ours too!!! She was under contract that she could not print anything online about me. She broke that agreement. I sent her a really really nasty email. Swearing and all. LOL. She replied pleading for me to not get involved. She was scared of me and I could smash her (emotionally). LOL If I wanted to, I could destroy all her stuff in one rebuttal. I have enough evidence to support each and every one of those people. Even the Mexican lady. Debra told her to go to Mexico to get a dog. I believe that 100%. She told me she treated me so horrible because I was Canadian.

There are 3-4 of them on there right now. It is up to them at this point. I am sure if they contacted the DA, I would be called in for info. I would have no choice but to give up what I have.

Sounds like that APril is pretty smart. She went on there and picked apart the email I wrote Debra. She pegged it when she said I was muzzled. She doesnt know my muzzle is hanging around my neck loos though. LOL

I will definitely keep you updated. At this point, I dont think I will get involved. Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it.

Have a great sprign break.

Deb
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Quotes From above:

"Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty."

"Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it."
------------------------------------------------

Well surprise, surprise. I DID risk it and this week there is a ripoff about Jennifer here.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Another email to a friend

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

Here is another email I wrote to a friend last week. BEFORE I posted on ripoff. Notice my concern is for Jennifer.

Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 18:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Debbie" View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: RE: RIPOFF
To: "A friend"

Hey you can vent to me anytime. Who else would understand but me??

Well she replied that Candace will be a big girl. I asked about 4 times for more info but she does not reply. So she goes on ripoff and says how I am getting pup and such then she ignores me. Go figure. LOL I wouldnt take her anyway. BUT.. if I decide to get involved I have emails. LOL

Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty.

The one lady complains that Debra breached their contract. Wellll she breached ours too!!! She was under contract that she could not print anything online about me. She broke that agreement. I sent her a really really nasty email. Swearing and all. LOL. She replied pleading for me to not get involved. She was scared of me and I could smash her (emotionally). LOL If I wanted to, I could destroy all her stuff in one rebuttal. I have enough evidence to support each and every one of those people. Even the Mexican lady. Debra told her to go to Mexico to get a dog. I believe that 100%. She told me she treated me so horrible because I was Canadian.

There are 3-4 of them on there right now. It is up to them at this point. I am sure if they contacted the DA, I would be called in for info. I would have no choice but to give up what I have.

Sounds like that APril is pretty smart. She went on there and picked apart the email I wrote Debra. She pegged it when she said I was muzzled. She doesnt know my muzzle is hanging around my neck loos though. LOL

I will definitely keep you updated. At this point, I dont think I will get involved. Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it.

Have a great sprign break.

Deb
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"Jen will definitely not get involved. Too much happened with us. Debra fought dirty. Too dirty."

"Debra knows my weak spot is Jen and she would retaliate by attacking Jen. I cant risk it."
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Well surprise, surprise. I DID risk it and this week there is a ripoff about Jennifer here.
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