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  • Submitted: Wed, February 08, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, November 26, 2012

  • Reported By: kacey — Tucson Arizona United States of America
WEALTH 4 ALL Cash accelerator
Internet United States of America

WEALTH 4 ALL Cash accelerator Misleading and sneaky Internet

*General Comment: Wealth4All is not a Scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ticked Off About Getting Paid

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ticked Off About Getting Paid

*Consumer Comment: It is a scam

*Consumer Comment: Wealth4AllTeam Inc.

*General Comment: Wealth4All has paid me as promised

*Consumer Comment: This is nothing new we have seen this time and time again

*Consumer Comment: Wealth 4 All

*General Comment: Wealth4All is following their terms

*Consumer Comment: My W4a Total Cycle Earnings: $207.10

*Consumer Comment: Ignorance is bliss

*Consumer Suggestion: Do you guys not find this weird....

*General Comment: Friend is making money

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Steve is One Foolish Person!

*Consumer Comment: Again, if you are dumb enough to sign up with a company whose only "product" is wealth...

*General Comment: Readers Beware of Pointless Attacks Against Wealth4all

*General Comment: Total Untruths Re: Wealth4all Team!

*Consumer Comment: Just a Member

*Consumer Comment: Just a Member

*Consumer Comment: Get real

*UPDATE Employee: Shame on Steve!

*Consumer Comment: You signed up with a company called "Wealth4All' and you are surprised you got ripped off?

*General Comment: Kasey, Here is the truth !

*UPDATE Employee: Scam Report against Wealth4All is a Hoax!

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#1 General Comment

Wealth4All is not a Scam

AUTHOR: Tiny Dancer - ()

To All:

I am a personal friend of the owner of Wealth4All. I know that when the owner created Wealth4All he had all good intentions. He is a  Born Again Christian Believer and  he created the company with the intention to help the people.

In the beginning Wealth4All was doing well. Everyday there were members pouring into the company and everyone was paid generously. At that time everyone was happy and the people were praising the owner everywhere. Now, Why is he known as a bad guy on the internet?

Listen Brothers and Sisters:

Every business runs into problems. Wealth4All is a business and has run into problems. The owner has been working seriously 24/7 trying to drive income streams into Wealth4All. He will not let the people down. Please tell me if he is a scanner or a thief - Why would he have given out his personal phone number and address for contact information? Can you reach the president of any company at his home? No you cannot. 

You speak without knowing the facts - what you are saying is not the truth - Listen to me: Speaking out without knowing all the facts is a sin. 

I know what he is doing and he is far from a bad man. I am convinced with this man's fortitude to come back on board  for the people -  I can clearly state "Wealth4All is coming back stronger then ever!!! " Yes, Brothers and Sisters - be patient - wait and you will see..........

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ticked Off About Getting Paid

AUTHOR: Ticked Off - (United States of America)

I have been involved with Wealth4All for nearly two years now. Now that Wealth4all has closed and has gone to the new name of Primus Hub, any W4A member who had AU's or Shares has been told that in order to get paid, you MUST join Primus Hub and PAY 12.95 per month for the social website in order to get paid from the PRIOR business called Wealth4all" I wrote to support asking how would we be paid and this is  the conversation between the two of us, instructing me on how this will all play out;

My question:
"Posted on 19 Nov 2012 12:15 AM
Hello Admin,
I know you are probably bombarded with questions as to when we will be paid out in the W4A program but, I have been away for over a month now and have been sifting through recent calls and hear all about Primus Hub but could you please direct me to the most recent call that talks about the W4A payout plan? Thank you!

Response:
There is no W4all pay plan as soon as PrimusHub launches the Aus and shares will be transferred to PrimusHub and a percentage will be paid monthly from PrimusHub profits, then W4all and W4all i-Payout will close down.Here is a video of the Primussocial pay plan.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljHjE2QMaZEand a call http://tinyurl.com/COMPplanCALL111412Admin ST 
Wealth4allteam.inc

My next question:
Posted on 21 Nov 2012 02:14 PM
Hello Admin,
In reference to ticket XXXXX, are you saying that unless I join Primus Hub that I will not get paid? I will listen to the call and view the video but I have decided to wait until I get paid out from w4a to consider joining Primus Hub."

Response:
Exec Admins have heard your concerns and Members will need to pay 12.95 per month to receive their AUs..... Members will not be required to be a gold member to receive their Founder Shares payment.... However, it would be good to participate and invite people to the social site because the shares will be paid according to the net profits of the business. PH members now at 20,000 business Opp Call: here is the correct link: http://tinyurl.com/Q-Atuesday112112

So, in essence, I have to pay 155.00 per year and HOPE that I will get paid from this venture as I hoped to be paid from Wealth4All to begin with? I, personally, do not think it is right to FORCE members to join your newest program in order to get paid for the time spent in W4A. I feel that if the CEO is going to stand up to his word, he should pay out ANY member in the ipayout server set up for W4A and allow anyone to decide IF they wish to continue with this company in the future. 
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ticked Off About Getting Paid

AUTHOR: Ticked Off - (United States of America)

I have been involved with Wealth4All for nearly two years now. Now that Wealth4all has closed and has gone to the new name of Primus Hub, any W4A member who had AU's or Shares has been told that in order to get paid, you MUST join Primus Hub and PAY 12.95 per month for the social website in order to get paid from the PRIOR business called Wealth4all" I wrote to support asking how would we be paid and this is  the conversation between the two of us, instructing me on how this will all play out;

My question:
"Posted on 19 Nov 2012 12:15 AM
Hello Admin,
I know you are probably bombarded with questions as to when we will be paid out in the W4A program but, I have been away for over a month now and have been sifting through recent calls and hear all about Primus Hub but could you please direct me to the most recent call that talks about the W4A payout plan? Thank you!

Response:
There is no W4all pay plan as soon as PrimusHub launches the Aus and shares will be transferred to PrimusHub and a percentage will be paid monthly from PrimusHub profits, then W4all and W4all i-Payout will close down.Here is a video of the Primussocial pay plan.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljHjE2QMaZEand a call http://tinyurl.com/COMPplanCALL111412Admin ST  
Wealth4allteam.inc

My next question:
Posted on 21 Nov 2012 02:14 PM
Hello Admin,
In reference to ticket XXXXX, are you saying that unless I join Primus Hub that I will not get paid? I will listen to the call and view the video but I have decided to wait until I get paid out from w4a to consider joining Primus Hub."

Response:
Exec Admins have heard your concerns and Members will need to pay 12.95 per month to receive their AUs..... Members will not be required to be a gold member to receive their Founder Shares payment.... However, it would be good to participate and invite people to the social site because the shares will be paid according to the net profits of the business. PH members now at 20,000 business Opp Call: here is the correct link: http://tinyurl.com/Q-Atuesday112112

So, in essence, I have to pay 155.00 per year and HOPE that I will get paid from this venture as I hoped to be paid from Wealth4All to begin with? I, personally, do not think it is right to FORCE members to join your newest program in order to get paid for the time spent in W4A. I feel that if the CEO is going to stand up to his word, he should pay out ANY member in the ipayout server set up for W4A and allow anyone to decide IF they wish to continue with this company in the future. 
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#4 Consumer Comment

It is a scam

AUTHOR: Avenger - (New Zealand)

I can say that I was ripped of by Wealth4ALL. Could you find out what happened to my account? Someone just cleared my entire account with no email or response to my emails. That's just criminal!!! My username is Marv3lman. 
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#5 Consumer Comment

Wealth4AllTeam Inc.

AUTHOR: Avenger - (New Zealand)

Wealth4All is a scam and ripoff !!!!!!! Hourlyrich.com is a part of this network isn't it? I put money into it just a couple weeks ago and everything was going fine until I tried ti cash out. My account said that I had withdrawn some money when in fact it had never even been paid out to my stp account. 

I even had a reply email from from your support team and Danny Cianciulli but then when I asked what happened to my withdrawal they never got back to me the losers. Then they cleared my entire account and I would of had $500 owing. Here is the email:

Danny Cianciulli  
dannyc@gmail.com
YES WE ARE 

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:48 AM, I wrote:
hourlyrich.com Support request from Wednesday 12th 2012f September 2012 10:48:56 PM

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Are you guys for real or not?

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Language : en-US,en;q=0.8

Regards,
Wealth4AllTeam Inc.
Support
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#6 General Comment

Wealth4All has paid me as promised

AUTHOR: Tom Campbell - (United States of America)

I have had great personal experience with Wealth4All.  Each time(more than 20 times)I have requested a withdrawal of my earnings I receive it within a few hours.   I know many others who have had similar experiences.   You give no specifics in your complaint which is odd and should make people question your credibility.
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#7 Consumer Comment

This is nothing new we have seen this time and time again

AUTHOR: Chris - (USA)

Isn't it funny that the ones that always come with "scam" accusations and "pyramid" etc etc, and warnings of gloom and doom at everything. Isn't it odd they never reveal themselves, show their face, give their contact info. or anything?  The internet has spawn the most coward people this nation has seen in ages. Anybody angry at their pathetic lives or finances or wife cheating on them can log on, post anything they want, while hiding behind their PC's.

SHOW PROOF, of your accusations, not just "blah blah blah" it's a scam. Ok, WHY, is it one, HOW is it one, SHOW PROOF of people not being paid that are owed money, show PROOF, this is illegal and or criminal.

If you can't then STFU. If anything it makes me think you're just angry you didn't think of this concept, or maybe you're competition and have a program of your own.

I'm personally not in w4all but plan to join, my sponsor has a steady income coming from it already in just a few months, she loves this program and how well organized it is and compliant, with actual attorneys doing their leg work for them etc etc. Which is very very rare these days to find.

I plan to start buying into it this month, i have already created an account, i've known her quite sometime online and she gives me the real deal on the good and the bad and as of right now, she likes w4all out of all the top legit "passive' programs out there. And that's saying a lot because she has done about 10 total.

Why don't you MAN up and stop posting "anonymously" and give FACTS that are BACKED UP.

This anonymouse "mouse", method of attacking programs without giving people any real meat and proof has gotten old. You're a coward, plain and simple. If you're going to stand up and attack something, be man enough to back it up and stop being a little disgruntled goat angry little boy at everything you don't "get" or "agree" with.

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#8 Consumer Comment

Wealth 4 All

AUTHOR: mdex - (United States of America)

Hi There I'm going to skip threw the yikti yak on whether or not wealth 4 all is true or false.  Kappeesh?
email me and i will pay it forward for you That's right I will pay $26 your initial cost to join wealth 4 all
Now. If After 10 days you decide this program is as bad as you say it is then just cancel and no harm done.
How about that
We wish you well young man and happy trails for now
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#9 General Comment

Wealth4All is following their terms

AUTHOR: Tom Campbell - (United States of America)

From my experience, Wealth4all has been following their terms of agreement to the letter.  I suggest that the person filing the complaint look over the terms carefully.  At first, I did not fully understand how it worked, but by reading the company's information it cleared up my confusions.
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#10 Consumer Comment

My W4a Total Cycle Earnings: $207.10

AUTHOR: toddpease - (United States of America)

Started with Nothing: My Sponsor "Payed-it-Forward" which we ALL- Encourage..

See My site.. 

wealth-4all-team.tk

You can Advertise ANY Reputable Program from W4AT's Banner co-op!

wealth-4all-team.tk

Opens in a New Window or Tab Cheers - Todd : )
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#11 Consumer Comment

Ignorance is bliss

AUTHOR: Dan - (United States of America)

I have been a member for 3 months and have made myself very happy and is a great organization. It is a very easy way to make your life so much better it is to bad that some people just will never get it. But like they say there is always one bad apple in the basket. But W4A is so good the one apple just gets tossed out and the rest stay fresh.
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

Do you guys not find this weird....

AUTHOR: justjohn - (United States of America)

That all rebuttals saying Wealth4All isgreat is in the same size font and method of writing?  Do any of you see that its probably the same guy or his thugs? 

People, if you want to make money, there are other ways.  Just becareful.  Read what you are getting yourself into.
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#13 General Comment

Friend is making money

AUTHOR: North Carolina man - (United States of America)

I am just getting started in Wealth4all, but the friend (whom I have known and trusted for many years, and who always thoroughly checks out businesses) has already made well over 2000.00 in the first 90 days. I have seen the check. It is not a lie at all. Also, Wealth4all makes recipients file taxes on their income. If this were a ripoff, they would not be telling people to report to the government.
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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Steve is One Foolish Person!

AUTHOR: richcherie - (United States of America)

Steve,

   If you genuinely care for others (as you like to say you do), trying to give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't deserve, why don't you go on SKYPE - you have my name - and send me an invite, and I will be Happy to personally show you how Wealth4all really works and how you can make any amount of money you have the initiative to use to get there.

   Never ceases to amaze me how people like you find nothing wrong in slinging mud, but will NEVER use the same effort they waste in making pointless and meaningless and slanderous statements, to better their own lives.

   NO ONE & Let me say it once More - NO ONE Ever Loses anything in Wealth4all.  We admin spend our days and nights, working tenaciously to make sure everyone prospers. For you see - we don't use Empty words and Say we care about Others - we actually do and we put our words into action.

   ALL Those Who read this individuals Empty Verbiage - just simply come and check us out for yourselves.  You don't have to take my word for anything & I certainly hope you will be a much wiser person than to take as fact, anything you hear him spew without one shred of evidence.  I/we will be more than Happy to Show you how you can make real money in Wealth4all, just as this person could himself!  In less than (90) days - we have presently Paid out $141,150.69 to our hard working and deserving Member base!  That looks like a Real Business to me!

  Thanks for your time.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Again, if you are dumb enough to sign up with a company whose only "product" is wealth...

AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)

you are going to lose your money to some other sleazeballs anyway. But at least lose it to someone who can write (these guys are embarrassingly uneducated).

For those of you that are smart enough to b just a tad suspicious about a site called "wealth for all," please educate yourselves further about MLMs: www.mlmwatch.org

BTW, I have nothing to do with the OP. I just care enough about my fellow man to prevent others from being ripped off. Trust me, NONE of these guys are just "volunteering". 
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#16 General Comment

Readers Beware of Pointless Attacks Against Wealth4all

AUTHOR: richcherie - (United States of America)

One last comment regarding this Steve Person's Pointless verbiage, I trust the Reader's intelligence far more than to be concerned over an individual who have no life, so they just satisfy their urge to spew, by picking some site that they obviously Know Nothing about, and then proving it without a shadow of a doubt, by opening their mouth and disengaging their common sense!

Come join one of the Best Income generating and fully sustainable businesses on the Internet, and let us prove to you, personally, that we practice precisely what we preach.

Richard

Wealth4all 'Chaplain' and member







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#17 General Comment

Total Untruths Re: Wealth4all Team!

AUTHOR: richcherie - (United States of America)

Greetings to the Readers,

 First, may I apologize for the Gutless LIES this person is spewing out for consumption.  I am a Key Leader in Wealth4all Team, there are NO Employee's in this Wonderful Site, as all (14) Admin/Leaders, including the Owner, do everything completely voluntary.  Thus, we are able to pay out in excess of 95% of all funds that enter the business.  That alone refutes and nullify's all completely uninformed comments by this individual.

 I am the 'Chaplain' and Assistant Director of Communication's for W4a, and Everything we promise we will do, we meet or exceed it.  To date, in the actual (84) days that we have been Active, we have Paid Out to our Member's, in excess of $120,000.00, and we enjoy an extremely satisfied and Super Great bunch of members, who now number well over 12,000.

 We provide some of the best Top Quality Advertising for our Members and anyone interested, that may currently be available on the Internet. Plus, we provide multiple Training webinar's throughout the week, where all may gain the kind of expertise and knowledge they have long sought after.

In Conclusion, it is truly sad that such a mentally deficient individual, would be allowed to verbalize such inflammatory remarks, without, as everyone has obviously noted, a shred of evidence.  However, since much of humanity still fortunately lives in a fairly FREE-speech society, we have to be subjected to such vehement comments, that are completely without merit!  But we can still Hope, that most of mankind will check us out for themselves, what is actually true, from the foolish false statements made!

Thank you for hearing me out, and by the way - come check us out, and discover for yourself, as opposed to what this person spews, the Real Truth behind this Wonderful Business, that truly provides - W E A L T H 4 a l l.

 Richard L. Brantley

W4a Chaplain
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#18 Consumer Comment

Just a Member

AUTHOR: Dan - (United States of America)

I wouldnt even waste my time with this person Steve not worth your time. Iam just a happy member and I think Wealth 4 All is great and it is definitely helping me. Its unfortunate that you will always have people complain because they have nothing better to do. GO GET A LIFE Steve.
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#19 Consumer Comment

Just a Member

AUTHOR: Dan - (United States of America)

I wouldnt even waste my time with this person Steve not worth your time. Iam just a happy member and I think Wealth 4 All is great and it is definitely helping me. Its unfortunate that you will always have people complain because they have nothing better to do. GO GET A LIFE Steve.
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#20 Consumer Comment

Get real

AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)

Not an MLM? Heck, this is more of a straight pyramid scheme:

'Members may upgrade to an Affiliate Member by paying a one time $10 fee. Then as Affiliate Members purchase TAPs (Training & Advertising Packages) They will be able to passively earn daily income. Members will also earn a $5 commission on their direct referrals who join Wealth4all as an Affiliate Members as well as a 10% commission on all their referrals purchases and re-purchases. The more people they refer, the more commissions they will generate for themselves."

Again, anyone who sees your site and still joins up is so dumb that they will lose their money to some other "home based business" that they might as well lose it to you. That goes double for anyone who believes you are "volunteering". 

Hey, a fool and his money should have never gotten together in the first place. 

(p.s. - You may want to take a writing course, as you seem to be in love with random capitalization). 
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#21 UPDATE Employee

Shame on Steve!

AUTHOR: richcherie - (United States of America)

Shame on you, Steve,



   You make Cowardly Accusations - show us your supposed proof - of which you have none, of course - and we will show you thousands of genuinely thankful people, whose lives are daily being recovered, financially and otherwise, because of a Wondeful, Completely Honest and Caring Internet Site.  You and the original author of this basely accusation, are the kind of people who truly harm the innocent!



   My Mom, even while I was still a boy, taught me  - if you don't have something good to say about others, keep your mouth shut.  That would be wise advice for you.  Slander is still against the Law!



   I am a Key Leader in Wealth4all and have been here all the way, and know first hand that for which I speak, or, I would say nothing.  Furthermore, there are (18) other highly skilled Leaders in Wealth4all who daily, likewise, give many hours of service to this Tremendous enterprise, and we ALL do so completely on a volunteer basis, including the Leader/owner himself.  Thus, we return over 95% of all income generated by our members as a result of the Effective and well-sought-out advertising they get for their dollars.  And, we have thus far paid out over $100,000.00 in less than (2) two months to our members.  Now there are the Facts, as opposed to the Meaningless verbage you spew.



   We are Not an MLM nor anything other than a completely Legitimate and Member-based Program, where anyone, anywhere on earth where Internet access is available, may with as little as $26.00 USD begin a life of Financial Sustainability.  Thank God for Wealth4all!



   Richard L. Brantley

   Chaplain & Assistant Director of Communication

   Wealth4all Cash Accelerator
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#22 Consumer Comment

You signed up with a company called "Wealth4All' and you are surprised you got ripped off?

AUTHOR: Steve - (USA)

I mean, take a look at their website; it practically screams "scam"!  It may even be an MLM (which is just a way to make poor people poorer).  

Amazing. 
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#23 General Comment

Kasey, Here is the truth !

AUTHOR: vronzulli - (United States of America)

Dear Kacey:  I don't understand why there are people on the internet that join a program, do not take the time to understand it, don't do anything but expect to make thousands of dollars in a few months and live the life.  Well, my friend, that, does not exsist !



Just for the record, I have worked and work with Wealth4all as a consultant in devising the current compensation plan (I am not an employee) and the only time that anything has changed was In January of this year when we moved to the new compensation plan, which by the way, is legal, compliant and made all the participants in the opportunity more money than with the previous plan.



Wealth4all strives to provide a level playing field for all participants and has bent over backwards to help those internet marketers with low resources so that they too can participate and build a decent income. I the last two months the company has paid out over $100,000 in withdrawals including a little over $1,700.00 I have personally withdrawn.  The compensation plan pays out 95% of all the money that comes in into Wealth4all and the company uses the other 5% to keep improving and making the opportunity better.



We can show the withdrawals going to Alertpay and STP if necessary as they are there or you can talk to the hundreds of people that have withdrawn money from the system since inception. Your alegation that the company keeps changing things to keep your money is absolutely false and baseless.  Nothing has changed since the comp plan was modified and withdrawals are happening everyday.



Our compensation plan is bar none one of the best in the industry right now and our introduction of new solid products, marketing system and new developments on the way are solidifying that position and are designed to make sure the Wealth4all program will be there for a very long time.



The owner and all board members are dedicated volunteers that work tiresly to keep making the program better and stronger.  These people are all faith driven and dedicated to help everyone that joins the company get the most out of it. we are constantly thinking of new ways to improve on what we have and are very careful in starting or implementing any new ideas until we can a) prove that they work within our framework b) has been tested and debugged c) has been voted on by all members of the board.



If you or any new or current member are interested to talk to anyone of us on the board or the owner of the company, just go on the website or our skype room and you will see our numbers and contact information. we don't have anything to hide and welcome everyone and all to ask or participate in the conversation and make suggestions.



So, with all due respect kacey, not only are you wrong on your assesment and your accusations are extremely rude and baseless, we can actually prove 100% of everything that has been said on this reply.  I wonder if you will be man/woman enough to realize what you have done is wrong and apologize for it.



 

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#24 UPDATE Employee

Scam Report against Wealth4All is a Hoax!

AUTHOR: richcherie - (United States of America)

Greetings to all,

   Sadly, the Individual/s who wrote the report is horribly misinformed, and could NOT be more wrong!

   I am the 'Chaplain' and Assistant Director of Communications/admin for Wealth4all and have been with the Program since its inception back in the Fall of 2011.

   I have been doing Internet Marketing for many years, and have seen the real, painful and mind-numbing activity that the scammers and thieves and liars that DO exist on the Internet over the years, have cost millions of honest marketers, and I know the difference.

   Having access to the inner workings of the program, I can personally attest to its Total legitimacy & Truth in doing business and its extremely high ethics in activity.

   Due to our heart and genuine concern that ALL people of ALL Economic backgrounds have equal access to the earning capabilities of Wealth4all, we named it accordingly!

   We even have had a special mantra to the less fortunate called 'helpyou' which I personally have administered, where hundreds of families have been Paid into the program, to give them the opportunity to restart their lives, in this very difficult and down economy that presently is taking place throughout the earth.

   Everything Wealth4all promises Wealth4all delivers, with NO Exceptions - going the extra mile, always!

   Such erroneous and harmful reports are totally without merit and truly, ought to be ashamed of themselves for having done so.

   Only God can possibly Know how badly the World needs this wonderful and completely trustworthy Program ,and I back it with my word; as a very long time Senior Pastor and an honest and caring man!

   Richard Brantley

   Wealth4all, Chaplain
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