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Complaint Review: Wartena Chihuahuas

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  • Submitted: Fri, May 05, 2006
  • Updated: Tue, September 20, 2011

  • Reported By:Houston Texas
Wartena Chihuahuas
7511 Watt Ave Nationwide U.S.A.

Jennifer Wartena, Jenny Wartena, ANTELOPE CA, NORTH HIGHLAND CA, GROVELAND CA, Jen Wartena, Michelle Wartena ripoff Jen's Chi Babies, Wartenas Chihuahuas, wartenaschihuahuas.com, jenschibabies.com, unethical breeder runs large puppymill. Ignores customers with sick Chihuahuas Ripoff North Highland California

*Consumer Comment: To Judy Houston Texas

*Consumer Comment: My pup from Jen is happy and healthy

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Wow all I can say, is Wow!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Wow all I can say, is Wow!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Wow all I can say, is Wow!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Wow all I can say, is Wow!

*Consumer Suggestion: I WILL FOLLOW ALONG WITH LOTS OF SOAP :)

*Consumer Comment: YOU ARE TOO STILL BASHING!

*Consumer Comment: THE "GIVE ME PROOF" REPORT LOOKS FAKE!

*Consumer Suggestion: GIVE ME PROOF

*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

*Consumer Suggestion: Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: There was never BASHING

*Consumer Comment: NOBODY IS PERFECT!

*Consumer Comment: Ewwww

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Got to love them PERFECT PEOPLE

*Consumer Comment: Well they weren't blackmail or extortion OR scamming the public

*Consumer Comment: Criminal

*Consumer Comment: Very good point

*Consumer Comment: HOMELESS ANIMALS

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: We can go on and on, round and round if you would like

*Consumer Comment: DEBRAS LAST RESPONSE TO JENNIFER AND HER GROUP

*Consumer Comment: By your own hands and words!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Please Debra don't do me any favors

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Need to address the Animal Control

*Consumer Suggestion: No hate, just so sad so much corruption and evil among reputable breeders.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ummm you said your daughter was the accountant

*Consumer Suggestion: Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

*Consumer Suggestion: Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

*Consumer Suggestion: Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

*Consumer Comment: Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

*Consumer Comment: Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

*Consumer Comment: Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

*Consumer Comment: Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

*Consumer Comment: DAUGHTER NOT A MINOR AND FILES TAXES and these people know this

*Consumer Suggestion: Deceased gentleman? How twisted and sick a statement to suggest fraud

*Consumer Suggestion: NONSENSE NEEDS TO STOP.JENNIFER WARTENA LOVES HER DOGS AND SO DO I

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Keeping the report to the TOP!

*Consumer Comment: I am a customer of Jen Wartena...

*Consumer Comment: Rescues are also inspected

*Consumer Suggestion: Jennifer Wartena JENS' CHI BABIES a big large dog pound

*Consumer Comment: I own a healthy Chihuahua I bought from Jen

*Consumer Comment: I look forward to see our puppies also

*Consumer Comment: The real Alanna

*Consumer Comment: Correction to my new puppy's daddy

*Consumer Comment: Soon to be owner of one of Godiva's puppies

*Consumer Comment: Pictures

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Your an idiot!

*Consumer Comment: Jen Wartena has more fraud

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Type of people I am up against. They conspire to put other breeders out of business

*Consumer Comment: Chinadolls,Luvs Chi Babies, Dollbabies,Angelbabies,Babydollpups,Emerald City Chihuahuas, Babydoll Famous Pups, Famous Pups

*Consumer Comment: Linda if you were a true customer then what is up with the proof

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: So sorry to hear of your loss Judy.Did your puppy die?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER OF MINE HOW ABOUT PROOF

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I too am a victim of Jennifer Wartena having purchased a very sickly puppy in 2005. Unlike some of her other customers I was never refunded .I tried but gave up due to the stress. I live in Texas and could not afford to fly to California.I am sure that she will reply to my post as she has done to her other poor customers.Deny her wrong doing to us.

I have read all of the posts about her and was really taken back by the triple felony report.To read about all of the different addresses her customers have gone to in the same year was eye opening. What is going on? Several residences in a 1 to 2 year period? All in the same area? No wonder her ripped off customers are confused.How many groupies work with the con artist?

Why does she use residences that belong to other people? Why does she use phone numbers that do not belong to her? Who has her dogs?

Who takes care of them?

I am interested in a class action suit if we can all find a way to contact each other.

Judy
Houston, Texas
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/05/2006 10:34 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Wartena-Chihuahuas/nationwide/Jennifer-Wartena-Jenny-Wartena-ANTELOPE-CA-NORTH-HIGHLAND-CA-GROVELAND-CA-Jen-Wartena-190116. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

To Judy Houston Texas

AUTHOR: anonymous - ()

 Hello Judy,

I would love to speak with you regarding your situation occuring with fancypaws chihuahus. I have also purchased a puppy who I love dearly but, wasnt informed of many issues he is having now and even as a pup! I dont know how to contact you as wrote this long ago. Hopefully you'll see it and it can somehow work!!! 

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

My pup from Jen is happy and healthy

AUTHOR: k - (United States of America)

 I am very sorry for your troubles with this breeder but I had a positive experience and my little guy is happy and healthy.
When we went to meet our pup we were able to meet both of his parents. He was the last in his litter so we didn't see his litter mates. Jen was welcoming and sent us off with all the supplies we would need to get through the car trip home and the first few days. She even gave us a blanket that his mom had slept with to help with the separation anxiety.
The next day I took him to my vet to be checked out and the vet gave him a clean bill of health. He has been with us for 2 months now (he's 6 months old) and we have not had any behavioral or health issues. His AKC papers arrived in the mail today.
Again, I am sorry for the troubles you experienced. I wish you did not have to go through it but not all experiences with Jen are like yours.
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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wow all I can say, is Wow!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Ok, it will take me a few days to respond, it will takes some time to pull all the sales contracts to prove when you started using mine, it will take some times to show ALL the name changes to avoid your customers. I was willing to let it go, you are not. You say I stole stuff off your site, nope, built a binder yes that you speak the truth. Court that is why.

YOU put my writings on your website! as if you wrote it. Copy write not a word in Debra's vocabulary

OK, lets play... I didn't open up this can Debra, you have. I wanted my stuff off your site and you accused me of bashing so I have to go in an explain the whole damn story of why I am even involved with you. I thought just posting the links to the other reports would be good enough.

I will show your fraud ways as you like to point that out to everyone about the other breeder and yes someone is scamming someone with that picture but guess what? I have Bueno's AKC papers. What fraud name is the breeder? Shall I post them?

Let it go, go back to your life and leave me alone.

As I told your friend last night.

I know you will never ever sell a sick dog and if you do, you will take care of that customer 100% as you will worry she/he may find me and I will have to help them again. Me as well, I know you would be slobbering over finding something on me so I will make sure all my pups are of extreme health.

If I sold a pup that died, how come they are not complaining? ever thought about that? in fact they will chew you up and spit you out if you ever mess with me. Why? because my customers and myself become best friends, and I stand behind my puppies 100% no matter what.

Ok, off to go look through all these saved copies, as you did date your sales contracts lol. I will also scan in my very first customer's sales contract so you can see it hasn't changed.

OH for your FYI. I never knew Michelle or Judy till you put up your wowies me story about how you sold someone a female on a spay an neuter contract and they bred her lalalal etc. I got curious and found out who you were talking about.

And of course there are 2 sides to every story, prove your side, show the signed spay contract. YOU CAN'T But due to that I met Michelle, who is an outstanding source of knowledge and wisdom and one of the most wonderful people I have met.

Judy, who I called to find out if she knew who the breeder was you were talking about, is wonderful and though she takes a beating by you, she trugs on with her love for this breed and attends shows, not to show but to be there for others. I thank you for bringing these 2 wonderful people into my life, I am truly blessed.

So your 10 years of bashing, which just last your was 5, is all a lie. plus, I never bash, just defend myself. Also, I haven't been breeding Chihuahuas that long lol.

Ok, here it is, you can stop responding now, cause it really does make you look stupid, ang I too will stop, or every time I do post I will post docs, emails, and copies. If you want to dig up the past, lets dig.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wow all I can say, is Wow!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Ok, it will take me a few days to respond, it will takes some time to pull all the sales contracts to prove when you started using mine, it will take some times to show ALL the name changes to avoid your customers. I was willing to let it go, you are not. You say I stole stuff off your site, nope, built a binder yes that you speak the truth. Court that is why.

YOU put my writings on your website! as if you wrote it. Copy write not a word in Debra's vocabulary

OK, lets play... I didn't open up this can Debra, you have. I wanted my stuff off your site and you accused me of bashing so I have to go in an explain the whole damn story of why I am even involved with you. I thought just posting the links to the other reports would be good enough.

I will show your fraud ways as you like to point that out to everyone about the other breeder and yes someone is scamming someone with that picture but guess what? I have Bueno's AKC papers. What fraud name is the breeder? Shall I post them?

Let it go, go back to your life and leave me alone.

As I told your friend last night.

I know you will never ever sell a sick dog and if you do, you will take care of that customer 100% as you will worry she/he may find me and I will have to help them again. Me as well, I know you would be slobbering over finding something on me so I will make sure all my pups are of extreme health.

If I sold a pup that died, how come they are not complaining? ever thought about that? in fact they will chew you up and spit you out if you ever mess with me. Why? because my customers and myself become best friends, and I stand behind my puppies 100% no matter what.

Ok, off to go look through all these saved copies, as you did date your sales contracts lol. I will also scan in my very first customer's sales contract so you can see it hasn't changed.

OH for your FYI. I never knew Michelle or Judy till you put up your wowies me story about how you sold someone a female on a spay an neuter contract and they bred her lalalal etc. I got curious and found out who you were talking about.

And of course there are 2 sides to every story, prove your side, show the signed spay contract. YOU CAN'T But due to that I met Michelle, who is an outstanding source of knowledge and wisdom and one of the most wonderful people I have met.

Judy, who I called to find out if she knew who the breeder was you were talking about, is wonderful and though she takes a beating by you, she trugs on with her love for this breed and attends shows, not to show but to be there for others. I thank you for bringing these 2 wonderful people into my life, I am truly blessed.

So your 10 years of bashing, which just last your was 5, is all a lie. plus, I never bash, just defend myself. Also, I haven't been breeding Chihuahuas that long lol.

Ok, here it is, you can stop responding now, cause it really does make you look stupid, ang I too will stop, or every time I do post I will post docs, emails, and copies. If you want to dig up the past, lets dig.
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wow all I can say, is Wow!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Ok, it will take me a few days to respond, it will takes some time to pull all the sales contracts to prove when you started using mine, it will take some times to show ALL the name changes to avoid your customers. I was willing to let it go, you are not. You say I stole stuff off your site, nope, built a binder yes that you speak the truth. Court that is why.

YOU put my writings on your website! as if you wrote it. Copy write not a word in Debra's vocabulary

OK, lets play... I didn't open up this can Debra, you have. I wanted my stuff off your site and you accused me of bashing so I have to go in an explain the whole damn story of why I am even involved with you. I thought just posting the links to the other reports would be good enough.

I will show your fraud ways as you like to point that out to everyone about the other breeder and yes someone is scamming someone with that picture but guess what? I have Bueno's AKC papers. What fraud name is the breeder? Shall I post them?

Let it go, go back to your life and leave me alone.

As I told your friend last night.

I know you will never ever sell a sick dog and if you do, you will take care of that customer 100% as you will worry she/he may find me and I will have to help them again. Me as well, I know you would be slobbering over finding something on me so I will make sure all my pups are of extreme health.

If I sold a pup that died, how come they are not complaining? ever thought about that? in fact they will chew you up and spit you out if you ever mess with me. Why? because my customers and myself become best friends, and I stand behind my puppies 100% no matter what.

Ok, off to go look through all these saved copies, as you did date your sales contracts lol. I will also scan in my very first customer's sales contract so you can see it hasn't changed.

OH for your FYI. I never knew Michelle or Judy till you put up your wowies me story about how you sold someone a female on a spay an neuter contract and they bred her lalalal etc. I got curious and found out who you were talking about.

And of course there are 2 sides to every story, prove your side, show the signed spay contract. YOU CAN'T But due to that I met Michelle, who is an outstanding source of knowledge and wisdom and one of the most wonderful people I have met.

Judy, who I called to find out if she knew who the breeder was you were talking about, is wonderful and though she takes a beating by you, she trugs on with her love for this breed and attends shows, not to show but to be there for others. I thank you for bringing these 2 wonderful people into my life, I am truly blessed.

So your 10 years of bashing, which just last your was 5, is all a lie. plus, I never bash, just defend myself. Also, I haven't been breeding Chihuahuas that long lol.

Ok, here it is, you can stop responding now, cause it really does make you look stupid, ang I too will stop, or every time I do post I will post docs, emails, and copies. If you want to dig up the past, lets dig.
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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Wow all I can say, is Wow!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Ok, it will take me a few days to respond, it will takes some time to pull all the sales contracts to prove when you started using mine, it will take some times to show ALL the name changes to avoid your customers. I was willing to let it go, you are not. You say I stole stuff off your site, nope, built a binder yes that you speak the truth. Court that is why.

YOU put my writings on your website! as if you wrote it. Copy write not a word in Debra's vocabulary

OK, lets play... I didn't open up this can Debra, you have. I wanted my stuff off your site and you accused me of bashing so I have to go in an explain the whole damn story of why I am even involved with you. I thought just posting the links to the other reports would be good enough.

I will show your fraud ways as you like to point that out to everyone about the other breeder and yes someone is scamming someone with that picture but guess what? I have Bueno's AKC papers. What fraud name is the breeder? Shall I post them?

Let it go, go back to your life and leave me alone.

As I told your friend last night.

I know you will never ever sell a sick dog and if you do, you will take care of that customer 100% as you will worry she/he may find me and I will have to help them again. Me as well, I know you would be slobbering over finding something on me so I will make sure all my pups are of extreme health.

If I sold a pup that died, how come they are not complaining? ever thought about that? in fact they will chew you up and spit you out if you ever mess with me. Why? because my customers and myself become best friends, and I stand behind my puppies 100% no matter what.

Ok, off to go look through all these saved copies, as you did date your sales contracts lol. I will also scan in my very first customer's sales contract so you can see it hasn't changed.

OH for your FYI. I never knew Michelle or Judy till you put up your wowies me story about how you sold someone a female on a spay an neuter contract and they bred her lalalal etc. I got curious and found out who you were talking about.

And of course there are 2 sides to every story, prove your side, show the signed spay contract. YOU CAN'T But due to that I met Michelle, who is an outstanding source of knowledge and wisdom and one of the most wonderful people I have met.

Judy, who I called to find out if she knew who the breeder was you were talking about, is wonderful and though she takes a beating by you, she trugs on with her love for this breed and attends shows, not to show but to be there for others. I thank you for bringing these 2 wonderful people into my life, I am truly blessed.

So your 10 years of bashing, which just last your was 5, is all a lie. plus, I never bash, just defend myself. Also, I haven't been breeding Chihuahuas that long lol.

Ok, here it is, you can stop responding now, cause it really does make you look stupid, ang I too will stop, or every time I do post I will post docs, emails, and copies. If you want to dig up the past, lets dig.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

I WILL FOLLOW ALONG WITH LOTS OF SOAP :)

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I was very upset when I placed that last response. i did alot of yelling in it. i do get upset and angry at times and think I hae a right to.

Gossip is mostly associated with malicious content and intent. Meant to give cheap thrill in seeing someone else belittled or relatively lowered in esteem.One who spreads gossip should be the one whose character is questioned rather then the one being spoken badly of.

As Bertrand Russell said "No one gossips about other people's secret virtues". Unlike the rolling stone, the gossip gathers moth. The story gets it's twists and adds on. The few elements of truth are enough to convince and render respectability to the whole story.

As humans we need to understand that we all make mistakes. ALL OF US. We have all done things in our lives we are ashamed of. ALL OF US

I lost my husband several years ago and my dogs and kids are my life.

There are so many REAL scammers online and and crooks. Why hate me so much that you would even support a proven scammer? Rather then help me to protect the consumer against REAL threats.

You have a serious PERSONAL issue with me and it isnt right to use that PERSONAL issue to lie to and deceive the public to make me look like some kind of threat to the consumer.

I have been checked out by animal control and their report states my dogs found clean and healthy!? You know this!

I never started this Jen. You may be a victim yourself of gossip and lies.
You may be involved with the few breeders in your area who have had it in for me since 1998 when i didnt go along with them in a serious fraud. (Jennifer was not involved with this fruad) and so perhaps you have been brainwashed by them.

I am a widow who has learned to survive without my husband. Iv raised three kids on my own and I pay taxes.

I REFUSE TO SIT BACK AND ALLOW ANYONE TO DRAG MY REPUTATION THROUGH THE MUD!

I WILL FOLLOW WITH LOTS OF SOAP!

You are opening a kennel and rescue.You need to focus on that. You are just human and suffer from the * hate syndrome* . You seek to destroy due to this hatred.
PLEASE Let me live my life in peace. Even help me to protect the consumer against REAL threats, not those your hate causes you to imagine.

LET THIS DIE OFF.
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#8 Consumer Comment

YOU ARE TOO STILL BASHING!

AUTHOR: Lily - (U.S.A.)

And another thing... How come the vet wasn't sued for failure to diagnose Gomez? He is at fault more than anyone because poor Gomez could not have gotten on the plane to Canada without that certificate from HIM. I get a sense that you really enjoy sticking it to her. :-(
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#9 Consumer Comment

THE "GIVE ME PROOF" REPORT LOOKS FAKE!

AUTHOR: Lily - (U.S.A.)

The report above has a different style than Debra's writing style. It doesn't look like Debra wrote it at all. Just my opinion though. ;-)
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

GIVE ME PROOF

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

Give me proof Jennifer! What are the names? I have a right to know if there are REALLY any old customers of mine that are unhappy.

LET THEM COME TO ME and I WILL MAKE GOOD.I do NOT recall ANY buyer with a sick dogs !!


I SHOULD KNOW! WHAT BREEDER WOULD NOT KNOW IF THEY SOLD SICK PUPPIES????

I would know as they would have contacted me!!
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Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I do not sell sick puppies!
I did not make any entries into your guest book! What I did do though is send your nasty comments you put in mine right back to you into yours.

You and your's sent horrible statements into mine.
Even a death threat sent to my guestbook!
So I cannot have a normal guest book. I have to set it up so that people can email me and I can post their comments and skip over your daily nasty ones.

Didn't you just recently sell a puppy that died from GIARDIA 2 weeks after sale? Lucky you sold the puppy to a good friend huh????

I HAVE NEVER EVER SOLD A PUPPY THAT HAS DIED!!!

I sold in my WHOLE breeding career TWO puppies with GENETIC DEFECTS and refunded both families.

I LET THEM KEEP THE PUPPIES,PLUS FULL REFUNDS and I EVEN PAID 1000.00 MEDICAL TO ONE OF THEM

Doesn't that make me GREAT TO BUY FROM???

SO WHYT DIDNT I REFUND THE CANADIAN RIGHT AWAY?

I wanted a test to prove the defect.The woman was in ANOTHER COUNTRY.
It was 2005! Warning to breeders about scammers in Africa and Canada buying puppies, then faking their illness/death and requesting another puppy be sent.

So I wanted Proof before doing anything and she offered proof but I didn't get it or thought I didn't get it. She says it was in my mailbox for days,whatever.

I made her MANY SINCERE PROMISES ON WHAT I WOULD DO ONCE I GOT PROOF.

When the proof I wanted didn't come I emailed her a 3 year warranty.

THE THREE YEAR WARRANTY WAS ONLY UNTIL I GOT PROOF but she didn't know that since I mad a grave error and didn't put that info on the warranty
THEN WE LOST EMAILS TO SPAM AND AN MISUNDERSTANDING LED TO SHOCK ON BOTH UR PARTS
When she got my three year my warranty she emailed THREE EMAILS I DIDNT RECIEVE.
Since I didn't get the 3 emails I COULDNT RESPOND TO THEM !

SO SHE IS TOTALLY PANICED THINKING I I WAS IGNORING HER.
VERY NEXT DAY SHE WROTE A RIPOFF AND I WAS STUNNED BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS UPSET ( remember I didn't get the three emails)

I was angry and emailed her WHY???. Never were the three lost emails known about by either of us until 2006.

So with the lost of those vital communication messages THEN I refused to refund her after she came to ripoff because I figured she owed me in damages from such defamation ALL OF IT WAS A MISTAKE. When he lost communications were found 2006 we both realized what a waste of our time had been online and we both felt so stupid. I fully refunded her plus let her keep the dog plus paid medical.

THIS CURRENT WAR ISN'T ABOUT HER!!! THAT IS A LIE TOO JENNIFER!!!
YOU AND YOU BUDDIES HAVENT LIKE ME LONG BEFORE THAT 2005!!

THIS GOES BACK TO 1998!!
That Canadian buyer was just an opportunity for you and your lawless group to come after me.

PROOF IS THIS:
As of 2007 You now have a CHIHUAHUA CLUB MEMBER, who has sold TWO sick dogs to one buyer and one puppy died within 2 weeks of sale from a parasite infestation PRESENT AT TIME OF SALE.
The buyer had to send 3 thousand dollars trying to save the puppy.His second puppy was sick too.

This breeder hasn't refunded the buyer, nor even offers a replacement puppy BUT THIS IS OKAY WITH YOUR GROUP BECAUSE HE IS PART OF A CHIHUAHUA CLICK

TWO STANDARDS HERE??
That breeder can refuse to refund or pay medical. Whatever his reasons!
THE BUYER IS BLAMED.

A AUTOPSY was done and COCCI killed that puppy .COCCI THAT HAD TO BE ADVANCED AND PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE SALE
So this breeder can blame a buyer and not do anything and it is okay??

STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT ME. I DO NOT SELL SICK DOGS.

I HAVE MANY MANY HAPPY CUSOTMERS.
What do you do? Make up email addresses and pass them around to your breeder friends who pretend to be unhappy customers of mine?

I have emailed you over and over asking you and your friend to stop this nonsense .I have asked for peace.
Your statement that YOU can stop and move on is a joke. You cannot.

STOP DRAGGING MY NAME THROUGH THE MUD.
Your actions to this day are CRIMINAL. LIBEL AND SLANDER ARE AGAINST THE LAW.

DAILY HARASSMENT IS AGAINST THE LAW and CRIMINAL.

Any breeder under such online terrorism would take active steps to try to protect customers from seeing such crap
I did used to change my urls A FEW TIMES and you add made up fake urls to make it look like Iv changed a dozen times!!! So what if I even did? You conspire to ruin my hobby and sales. THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW!

CRIMINALS, STALKERS AND LUNITICS ARE WHAT YOU ARE.

STOP LYING ABOUT ME!

I am middle aged and I just love that I can build and do things online.My website is a playground for me .
YOU GUYS ARE SO WEIRD THAT YOU EVEN USE MY PRICE CHANGES TO TRY TO DEFAME ME!

My prices may go up and down on the same day because I put a puppy to 1200.00 and by evening SAME DAY I feel it should be 1000.00 We honor the lowest price seen for 48 hours!!

WHAT IS SICK IS THAT YOU GUYS SPEND YOUR TIME COPYING ALL MY PAGES DAILY !

Now THAT is obsession!
My daughter says that you lavish so much attention on me that I should be called a CELEBRITY.

Lady, you are SO OBESSSED WITH ME.

VERY ILL!
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Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I do not sell sick puppies!
I did not make any entries into your guest book! What I did do though is send your nasty comments you put in mine right back to you into yours.

You and your's sent horrible statements into mine.
Even a death threat sent to my guestbook!
So I cannot have a normal guest book. I have to set it up so that people can email me and I can post their comments and skip over your daily nasty ones.

Didn't you just recently sell a puppy that died from GIARDIA 2 weeks after sale? Lucky you sold the puppy to a good friend huh????

I HAVE NEVER EVER SOLD A PUPPY THAT HAS DIED!!!

I sold in my WHOLE breeding career TWO puppies with GENETIC DEFECTS and refunded both families.

I LET THEM KEEP THE PUPPIES,PLUS FULL REFUNDS and I EVEN PAID 1000.00 MEDICAL TO ONE OF THEM

Doesn't that make me GREAT TO BUY FROM???

SO WHYT DIDNT I REFUND THE CANADIAN RIGHT AWAY?

I wanted a test to prove the defect.The woman was in ANOTHER COUNTRY.
It was 2005! Warning to breeders about scammers in Africa and Canada buying puppies, then faking their illness/death and requesting another puppy be sent.

So I wanted Proof before doing anything and she offered proof but I didn't get it or thought I didn't get it. She says it was in my mailbox for days,whatever.

I made her MANY SINCERE PROMISES ON WHAT I WOULD DO ONCE I GOT PROOF.

When the proof I wanted didn't come I emailed her a 3 year warranty.

THE THREE YEAR WARRANTY WAS ONLY UNTIL I GOT PROOF but she didn't know that since I mad a grave error and didn't put that info on the warranty
THEN WE LOST EMAILS TO SPAM AND AN MISUNDERSTANDING LED TO SHOCK ON BOTH UR PARTS
When she got my three year my warranty she emailed THREE EMAILS I DIDNT RECIEVE.
Since I didn't get the 3 emails I COULDNT RESPOND TO THEM !

SO SHE IS TOTALLY PANICED THINKING I I WAS IGNORING HER.
VERY NEXT DAY SHE WROTE A RIPOFF AND I WAS STUNNED BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS UPSET ( remember I didn't get the three emails)

I was angry and emailed her WHY???. Never were the three lost emails known about by either of us until 2006.

So with the lost of those vital communication messages THEN I refused to refund her after she came to ripoff because I figured she owed me in damages from such defamation ALL OF IT WAS A MISTAKE. When he lost communications were found 2006 we both realized what a waste of our time had been online and we both felt so stupid. I fully refunded her plus let her keep the dog plus paid medical.

THIS CURRENT WAR ISN'T ABOUT HER!!! THAT IS A LIE TOO JENNIFER!!!
YOU AND YOU BUDDIES HAVENT LIKE ME LONG BEFORE THAT 2005!!

THIS GOES BACK TO 1998!!
That Canadian buyer was just an opportunity for you and your lawless group to come after me.

PROOF IS THIS:
As of 2007 You now have a CHIHUAHUA CLUB MEMBER, who has sold TWO sick dogs to one buyer and one puppy died within 2 weeks of sale from a parasite infestation PRESENT AT TIME OF SALE.
The buyer had to send 3 thousand dollars trying to save the puppy.His second puppy was sick too.

This breeder hasn't refunded the buyer, nor even offers a replacement puppy BUT THIS IS OKAY WITH YOUR GROUP BECAUSE HE IS PART OF A CHIHUAHUA CLICK

TWO STANDARDS HERE??
That breeder can refuse to refund or pay medical. Whatever his reasons!
THE BUYER IS BLAMED.

A AUTOPSY was done and COCCI killed that puppy .COCCI THAT HAD TO BE ADVANCED AND PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE SALE
So this breeder can blame a buyer and not do anything and it is okay??

STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT ME. I DO NOT SELL SICK DOGS.

I HAVE MANY MANY HAPPY CUSOTMERS.
What do you do? Make up email addresses and pass them around to your breeder friends who pretend to be unhappy customers of mine?

I have emailed you over and over asking you and your friend to stop this nonsense .I have asked for peace.
Your statement that YOU can stop and move on is a joke. You cannot.

STOP DRAGGING MY NAME THROUGH THE MUD.
Your actions to this day are CRIMINAL. LIBEL AND SLANDER ARE AGAINST THE LAW.

DAILY HARASSMENT IS AGAINST THE LAW and CRIMINAL.

Any breeder under such online terrorism would take active steps to try to protect customers from seeing such crap
I did used to change my urls A FEW TIMES and you add made up fake urls to make it look like Iv changed a dozen times!!! So what if I even did? You conspire to ruin my hobby and sales. THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW!

CRIMINALS, STALKERS AND LUNITICS ARE WHAT YOU ARE.

STOP LYING ABOUT ME!

I am middle aged and I just love that I can build and do things online.My website is a playground for me .
YOU GUYS ARE SO WEIRD THAT YOU EVEN USE MY PRICE CHANGES TO TRY TO DEFAME ME!

My prices may go up and down on the same day because I put a puppy to 1200.00 and by evening SAME DAY I feel it should be 1000.00 We honor the lowest price seen for 48 hours!!

WHAT IS SICK IS THAT YOU GUYS SPEND YOUR TIME COPYING ALL MY PAGES DAILY !

Now THAT is obsession!
My daughter says that you lavish so much attention on me that I should be called a CELEBRITY.

Lady, you are SO OBESSSED WITH ME.

VERY ILL!
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Nothing but trash out of your mouth Jennifer

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I do not sell sick puppies!
I did not make any entries into your guest book! What I did do though is send your nasty comments you put in mine right back to you into yours.

You and your's sent horrible statements into mine.
Even a death threat sent to my guestbook!
So I cannot have a normal guest book. I have to set it up so that people can email me and I can post their comments and skip over your daily nasty ones.

Didn't you just recently sell a puppy that died from GIARDIA 2 weeks after sale? Lucky you sold the puppy to a good friend huh????

I HAVE NEVER EVER SOLD A PUPPY THAT HAS DIED!!!

I sold in my WHOLE breeding career TWO puppies with GENETIC DEFECTS and refunded both families.

I LET THEM KEEP THE PUPPIES,PLUS FULL REFUNDS and I EVEN PAID 1000.00 MEDICAL TO ONE OF THEM

Doesn't that make me GREAT TO BUY FROM???

SO WHYT DIDNT I REFUND THE CANADIAN RIGHT AWAY?

I wanted a test to prove the defect.The woman was in ANOTHER COUNTRY.
It was 2005! Warning to breeders about scammers in Africa and Canada buying puppies, then faking their illness/death and requesting another puppy be sent.

So I wanted Proof before doing anything and she offered proof but I didn't get it or thought I didn't get it. She says it was in my mailbox for days,whatever.

I made her MANY SINCERE PROMISES ON WHAT I WOULD DO ONCE I GOT PROOF.

When the proof I wanted didn't come I emailed her a 3 year warranty.

THE THREE YEAR WARRANTY WAS ONLY UNTIL I GOT PROOF but she didn't know that since I mad a grave error and didn't put that info on the warranty
THEN WE LOST EMAILS TO SPAM AND AN MISUNDERSTANDING LED TO SHOCK ON BOTH UR PARTS
When she got my three year my warranty she emailed THREE EMAILS I DIDNT RECIEVE.
Since I didn't get the 3 emails I COULDNT RESPOND TO THEM !

SO SHE IS TOTALLY PANICED THINKING I I WAS IGNORING HER.
VERY NEXT DAY SHE WROTE A RIPOFF AND I WAS STUNNED BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA SHE WAS UPSET ( remember I didn't get the three emails)

I was angry and emailed her WHY???. Never were the three lost emails known about by either of us until 2006.

So with the lost of those vital communication messages THEN I refused to refund her after she came to ripoff because I figured she owed me in damages from such defamation ALL OF IT WAS A MISTAKE. When he lost communications were found 2006 we both realized what a waste of our time had been online and we both felt so stupid. I fully refunded her plus let her keep the dog plus paid medical.

THIS CURRENT WAR ISN'T ABOUT HER!!! THAT IS A LIE TOO JENNIFER!!!
YOU AND YOU BUDDIES HAVENT LIKE ME LONG BEFORE THAT 2005!!

THIS GOES BACK TO 1998!!
That Canadian buyer was just an opportunity for you and your lawless group to come after me.

PROOF IS THIS:
As of 2007 You now have a CHIHUAHUA CLUB MEMBER, who has sold TWO sick dogs to one buyer and one puppy died within 2 weeks of sale from a parasite infestation PRESENT AT TIME OF SALE.
The buyer had to send 3 thousand dollars trying to save the puppy.His second puppy was sick too.

This breeder hasn't refunded the buyer, nor even offers a replacement puppy BUT THIS IS OKAY WITH YOUR GROUP BECAUSE HE IS PART OF A CHIHUAHUA CLICK

TWO STANDARDS HERE??
That breeder can refuse to refund or pay medical. Whatever his reasons!
THE BUYER IS BLAMED.

A AUTOPSY was done and COCCI killed that puppy .COCCI THAT HAD TO BE ADVANCED AND PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE SALE
So this breeder can blame a buyer and not do anything and it is okay??

STOP TELLING LIES ABOUT ME. I DO NOT SELL SICK DOGS.

I HAVE MANY MANY HAPPY CUSOTMERS.
What do you do? Make up email addresses and pass them around to your breeder friends who pretend to be unhappy customers of mine?

I have emailed you over and over asking you and your friend to stop this nonsense .I have asked for peace.
Your statement that YOU can stop and move on is a joke. You cannot.

STOP DRAGGING MY NAME THROUGH THE MUD.
Your actions to this day are CRIMINAL. LIBEL AND SLANDER ARE AGAINST THE LAW.

DAILY HARASSMENT IS AGAINST THE LAW and CRIMINAL.

Any breeder under such online terrorism would take active steps to try to protect customers from seeing such crap
I did used to change my urls A FEW TIMES and you add made up fake urls to make it look like Iv changed a dozen times!!! So what if I even did? You conspire to ruin my hobby and sales. THAT IS AGAINST THE LAW!

CRIMINALS, STALKERS AND LUNITICS ARE WHAT YOU ARE.

STOP LYING ABOUT ME!

I am middle aged and I just love that I can build and do things online.My website is a playground for me .
YOU GUYS ARE SO WEIRD THAT YOU EVEN USE MY PRICE CHANGES TO TRY TO DEFAME ME!

My prices may go up and down on the same day because I put a puppy to 1200.00 and by evening SAME DAY I feel it should be 1000.00 We honor the lowest price seen for 48 hours!!

WHAT IS SICK IS THAT YOU GUYS SPEND YOUR TIME COPYING ALL MY PAGES DAILY !

Now THAT is obsession!
My daughter says that you lavish so much attention on me that I should be called a CELEBRITY.

Lady, you are SO OBESSSED WITH ME.

VERY ILL!
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#14 REBUTTAL Owner of company

There was never BASHING

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Sorry, as stated and will state again and don't mind this report at the top, also, I am going to put a link on my website to it! It has all the info needed. I don't mind, I have done nothing wrong, I didn't sell sick dogs, I did not try running from my responsibilities, I did let all this go once she paid YET she insist on stealing my stuff off my website, I can care less if she steals off others, that is their battle. I would gladly let all this go IF she would learn from her mistakes and quit blaming everyone for her misfortunes. LET IT GO! MOVE ON! leave my stuff alone. I have people call every day about a reference and I say the same thing. I cannot recommend her at this time. I would call other breeders IN HER AREA and talk to them. IF she has upset breeder friends in her area, well, she should start making amends at that end!

Thanks for helping keep this report at the top. I am more then happy to see it up here or more then happy to see it move down. No biggy to me!! I have done nothing wrong but help out a few people with their sick puppies they bought from her.

After a long year she finally paid. These ladies wanted to give up many times as I assume others have too? Only Debra knows the answer to that. But they were troopers and continued the fight for the rights of their sick puppies that they are still, to this day, watching fade I am sure.

So let it go or drag it on. up to you Debra. I am more then willing to let it go but have my right not to refer you to my worse enemy lol you are happy to do the same, share my record, I don't care.

15 years ago I made mistakes, 2 years ago you made mistakes and it appears still do. Hmmmm what is wrong with this picture.

OK, I will put this link up on my website :-) I have nothing to had as I did nothing wrong..

Stop stealing my stuff off my website and we will all be happy.

You need to deal with all these others on your own. I am not their mother and there for can not control them. I would say, maybe trying to meet them half way? that is on you guys. I have nothing to do with it.

Thanks for the cute entries in my Guestbook. I have saved them :-)
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#15 Consumer Comment

NOBODY IS PERFECT!

AUTHOR: Rainbow - (U.S.A.)

The meeting Jesus includes you because you have been condeming and bashing Debra for is it over a year now? Everyone makes mistakes.


PLEASE ADOPT FROM A SHELTER! IT SAVES LIVES!
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#16 Consumer Comment

Ewwww

AUTHOR: Rainbow - (U.S.A.)

Googled it. Saw it. I have no sympathy.

As another comment was made, breeding is wrong on so many levels. Many animal rights activists believe breeding deprives animals of their natural lives. They believe their freedom to choose a mate of their own is taken from them. They also say it is an unnatural situation and bringing more dogs into an already over-taxed system is just abhorrent.

Not only the destruction of these beautiful animals in shelters but the slaughter of innocent chickens, cows and other animals to feed the next generation and so on of puppies is just sickening.
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#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Got to love them PERFECT PEOPLE

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

And you are the exact person I will never place a puppy with. Puppies are not perfect and do make mistakes as do humans and it is people like you who convict a person for life, who end up taking their precious puppy to the pound since he will not potty train as fast or barks to much. People who convict people for life are the ones who need to seek forever forgiveness.

If you must know, I never spent one night in jail so now you can make your own conclusion of what could I of possible of done that would not constitute any time.

Now, I did what I needed to do to take care of myself and forgive myself. You can condemn me for life, I do not care and it is YOU who would never make it as a pet owner or a parent for that matter since you cannot forgive and/or forget the past. I choose to live in the future and that is where I will be.

Let's hope no one in your family EVER makes a mistake. Or maybe they have? maybe you have as well? do you cheat on your taxes? just because you haven't been caught doesn't mean you are not a criminal. What would you do if your son got arrested for stealing candy? kick him out of the house? No, you forgive him, he has learned his lesson and becomes a productive member of society. AND becomes a better person for it. Our past teaches us the future and molds us to be who we are. We hand down to our children our life experiences. Due to what I went through, my children have never drank, done drugs, or even smoked for that matter.

But I must say, that everytime it is brought up, it is a kick in the pants. Instead of seeing it as a negative, it reminds me where I have been, what I have experienced, how I need to help the next person suffering through addiction. I get complacent and these stupid reports just remind me of what I went through. THEN I take a step back and look at all my accomplishments, who I have helped, how my children have turned out, how to treat people with love and compassion as I too would want to be treated. Sometimes we get so busy in life that it passes us by before we realize we have done nothing to help man kind, the environment, or our neighbors. Some of these things are learned in life when you learn to appreciate it.

How many of you drive by that homeless man with the sign. Don't make eye contact and we tell our kids this! he is just an alcoholic or will spend the money on drugs. We stereotype every one on the street. WE have a full frig and do not know what it is like to be hungry or living in the cold. NOT you perfect people that's for sure. My daughter will not let me drive by one without handing them something, anything, she will give her only dollar to them. This is my daughter that I raised! who will not follow in my early year footsteps but am proud to say, she is a spitting image of me.

Until you walk in someone's shoes, try not to condemn them. Go down to the court house and pull my record, you will see for yourself what the charges are for. 1.00 you can have all the proof you want.

Let me tell you where I ended up besides an addiction to Chihuahuas :-) I work for a prestigious accounting firm for which I am a full charge bookkeeper during the year and a staff accountant at tax time. I pay my taxes as do the rest of you, except I get mine done for free :-) I hope the perfect ones who like to condemn people for life, never face Jesus..
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#18 Consumer Comment

Well they weren't blackmail or extortion OR scamming the public

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

If you are so concerned get a runner to go to the courthouse and get you a copy for 10 cents a page since you are in California. These records will show you the WHOLE truth of this person's convictions, and not what Debra Drury wants you to think. You are so concerned about someone's character for something that happened 15 years ago and not concerned about what a scammer is trying to do to the average consumer who only wants a little happiness from a puppy. This scammer knows what the charges are and again is misleading the public for her agenda MONEY! Debra Drury is not only a puppy scammer, she is an extortionist and a blackmailer. Now, how is she any better than the person she points her finger at? She's not! And one day someone may extort and blackmail her when she get convicted for her crimes if any of her customers get enough courage to bring her to justice. I would do it because she has tried to extort me. But I have no damages because she cannot find anything to dig up on me. But, unfortunately, she has dug into each one of her complaining customers' business (she has bragged about it on her website and in this forum how she went about doing it) and is using it as leverage. That is why you know of this person's past, Debra posted it as punishment because this person located her for wronged consumers. Who wants all of their personal business aired on her website or this forum? So if you think this person who has felonies is so scary, you have seen nothing yet until you cross Debra Drury. And I have the proof in black and white! Debra needs to know that she is not the only person who knows how to dig up dirt. She has not covered her tracks as well as she thinks. You see, once you tell a lie, you have to keep on telling lies to cover up that lie, and SHAZAAAAM! you hang yourself. She is a consumers worst nighmare.

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#19 Consumer Comment

Criminal

AUTHOR: Rainbow - (U.S.A.)

Nobody is addressing these felonies. This is very scary. I for one would never want to do business with someone who was a repetitive criminal. Who was harmed because of these crimes? This shows content of character and it was over a time frame of years.
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#20 Consumer Comment

Very good point

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

I agree with you in many ways. However, many of the "purebreds" you find in shelters come from backyard breeders who do not breed to the standards. Therefore, you get a dog for $200 to $400 dog and you don't want him any long, you dump him. Unfortunately, there are also animals who were not bred properly that you may have also paid over $1000 but the breeder scammed you into believing your dog had the "perfect" personality, was "rare" and "exotic" and guranteed that if you weren't happy you could return it. When that time came, SHAZAMM! you can't find the breeder or the breeder renegs on the agreement. Okay, another dumped dog.

Many pet owners have both in their household. I have both purchased pets and rescue pets. I also volunteer and contribute monetarily to help shelters. So, what's the answer? Charge a higher licensing fee to breeders AND ENFORCE IT. Here in Sacramento, if you have an unaltered dog you will pay $150 to license that dog. I LOVE THAT!

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#21 Consumer Comment

HOMELESS ANIMALS

AUTHOR: Lily - (U.S.A.)

According to the Humane Society, between twenty to thirty percent (estimate) of dogs in shelters are purebred. The only way to stop the unfathomable suffering is to STOP BREEDING. This means EVERYONE. Three to four million animals are euthanized every year. Many would have been wonderful companions if they were given a chance.

Every breeder fills a space that these unwanted animals need so, so badly. Sadly, too many will never get the chance of a loving home. I say, give the wonderful animals at the Humane Society or a no kill shelter a chance instead of breeders!!!
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#22 REBUTTAL Owner of company

We can go on and on, round and round if you would like

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I really don't mind, I know you like to fight and you are really hitting your head on a rock.

I would not go as far as you have that EVERY breeder online has some emails from other breeders unhappy buyers. The only complaints I have ever received are about you, and in each every case, I can produce the original email and all correspondence thereto. In fact, I believe a number of them are on the various reports you have instigated on this forum. My claims are out in the open for all to see. How about yours? I invite you to provide those emails you proclaim you have about me from my unhappy customers to this forum. Show them Debra, and don't forget perjury and forgery are felonies, just like the fake reports you have posted on this forum about me and other breeders. But, be aware that I have all of my customer's email addresses on file and will be able to cross reference those with any that you make up. As you know, since you copy items off of my website and put them on yours, most of my customers are repeat customers. And, the majority of my other customers are referrals of friends and family. If I were selling sick dogs, why would they continue to do business with me?

Again, no one but YOUR customers called animal control. They did not use fictitious names and they did not lie. All they stated was that they received sick dogs from you and that they cannot find you and animal control provided your location. So, what does that tell you? Yep, you are correct that animal control did not find any sick dogs

You have admitted to blackmail. Your warning was a threat and you carried it out. And it had NOTHING to do with me bashing you, but EVERYTHING to do with me helping your customers locate you so that they could get refunds for the sick dogs you sold them. I did not attack you; I pursued you for the sake of those poor puppies. And then, lo and behold, you finally came clean one year later because, as you would like to believe, it was a miscommunication. Canadian people and people out of the State of California speak English! If a dog is UNFIT FOR SALE as was what the very first vet said, which part of that do you think an English speaking person would not have understood?

In any case, I would have gladly gone on with my business, but YOU are the one who steals stuff off my website and claims it as yours. Actually, you do that to quite a few breeders. I requested you remove it and you have thank you for that. So, any beef you have now with Arte or anyone else who feels you are misleading the general public is on you. You will have to deal with them! I can only suggest to them that this is a never ending battle and lets just drop it. I am more then willing to go on with my program the way I do and you as well. Your allegations are false, you have no emails from my customers or you would of gladly displayed them on your website or the Northern CA Chihuahua club would of heard about them I am sure.

But it is all hearsay so you an reply, and I can reply, and you can reply and I can reply. You have no proof, I do. we can display it for all to see or we can walk away right now. Balls in your court.

All I ask is if you want to use anything off my site, put a link to it. DO NOT steal my info. you are very capable of writing your own "Buyer warnings"
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#23 Consumer Comment

DEBRAS LAST RESPONSE TO JENNIFER AND HER GROUP

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

Jennifer,
EVERY breeder online has some emails from other breeders unhappy buyers.That is normal!I have the names of many breeders given to me by many buyers who had trouble dealing with various breeders.
I have several emails from some of your past buyers who have contacted me over the last 2 years .They list hydrocephalus, patella surgeries, one hip deformity surgery and the other three are personality and size issues. I have only heard their side of the story and not your side so that leaves out all the facts.

If you have unhappy buyers of mine who have emailed you in the last couple years then you should ask for my side .I such be allowed to address the allegations.

I do know that you have a couple consumers who I didn't approve to adopt a puppy who are angry and emailed you, but those are NOT customers.

You can see my hundred references posted on my web site from satisfied customers so that washes away your reason that you wouldn't refer people to me.lol

You and your friends conned animal control to come over and what was the result? The report states my home is clean and dogs healthy.

I've never seen a report on your place so perhaps it was too generous of me to say I would refer customers to you.

As for the complaints on you that I have, I figure ALL breeders have some unhappy buyers and it is normal to have a few over the years.

As for being a brokers I am not. I love Maltepoos and I have a relative and her friend who are licensed and they breed them .I have ought a couple of them for myself. I also manage these persons web sites .they bring their puppies over to my home and I take pictures for them .These are older people who do not know how to make web sites, etc..
I bought 3 Yorkies in the last year for myself. What is wrong if I breed Yorkies and Maltese for that matter?
Doesn't the show breeder you respect and like, Rick Morgan also breed Yorkshires? Isn't what is good the the goose good for the gander? It is Okay for him to breed Chihuahuas and Yorkies but not for me?

It is your hate that causes you to be petty and use normal statistics to twist and try to build a wall of defamation against me or any breeder.

A WALL to destroy a persons reputation should be built of blocks of FACTS, not of anger, lies and half truths.To destroy someone's reputation is a moral crime . People have the right to reason of doubt and TWO SIDES should be heard. That is why I do not use your unhappy customers emails I have against you.It is only ONE side.

Your wall has been found to be very dirty.
Most of the bricks forming your wall have been found to be filled with dirt rather then cement,such weakness makes THE WHOLE WALL TOPPLES
Who in their right mind would still focus on a falling dirt wall? Just you and your friends, so what will be the result?

LETS ADDRESS ONE MORE TWISTED CLAIM YOU HAVE:
You claim I threatened that if you did not stop hurting my character I might hurt your character back? lol
I was nice to give you warning! Now how fair was that!

I emailed you and told you that if you wish to tarnish my character with your perverted twists that I have something about your character that wasn't my opinion or made up, BUT A PROVEN FACT. Not just here say or an opinion or a twist created from hate, but real FACTs from a judge.

I told you that POPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES . I gave you a chance to stop bashing me. How nice was that?????To take so many punches and to hold off, and give you a chance to stop the punching??

JENNIFER DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT THE PERSON YOU AND YOUR MOB WERE ATTACKING MIGHT STOP TURNING THE CHEEK AND PUNCH BACK?
Is that why you have such a record? You still have that attiitude then!! You think you can dish dirt out and have no consequences?

I am tiered of defending myself against such nonsense.
TO THE PUBLIC : I have tried to make peace but they do not want it. Jennifer has many emails from me I have sent her February, and March 2007 requesting peace.I sent her emails commending her for saving a tiny puppy she had born.I have tried to be nice but some people are just not nice.
It is part of life we have to accept.I have to stop trying .

If anyone reading the continuing nasty articles from these ladies regarding me have questions, please feel free to email or call and ask ME about ME.


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#24 Consumer Comment

By your own hands and words!

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

First of all you are wrong on all counts. Every consumer agency will be interested in how you operate. I do not have to say anything about you because you have said it all on your website and in this forum.

When you stated on your website that you HAD contacted my employer because I work with troubled children, etc., you did that for the purpose of scaring me to back off my investigation of your practices. I am trying to figure out where on earth you even came to the conclusion that I worked with troubled children other than your lerking around the Internet and, with your little pea brain comprehension, took something out of context.

As I have stated before, I don't have an employer! And you know I don't have an employer because you spent the whole day yesterday digging and digging trying to find out how you could get that power over me. This is a small world we live in and you would be surprised who knows who. You are an extortionist by your own admission.

I do not have to write or insinuate lies about you because you have told it all in your own words and hand. I call you a broker because you have so many breeds you peddle on the web and I have copies of each and every one. Now if that isn't considered a brokerage then my mistake. It would be apparent then that you are a puppymiller. To have that many dogs, producing that many breeds: chihuahuas, morkies, yorkies, maltesepoos, pom-poos, well, gee, Debra, your little hobby would give every appearance to being a brokerage or a puppymill.

Jennifer's suggestion that you stop advertising that you have something to sell that does not exist has to do with ethics. Any sane, reasonable and intelligent person can see that this was not a threat. That's your style. It was merely a statement and that is why she and every other breeder may have issues with you. I cannot really speak for Jennifer, but that is what I comprehended from her statement.

As I have stated before, and I will state again, I don't believe any serious, ethical, or reputable breeder sees you as competition. If you have to lie to the public and prey on vulnerable people who need material things that are classified as exotic and rare in order to get a high price for your pups, then what is wrong with your pups?

As I stated before, you have some cuties so why can't you just say "For sale, cute little chihuahuas" instead of "rare and exotic, guaranteed teacup chihuahuas." Why don't you charge a high price because you are selling quality not fantasy. If people want to pay what you charge so be it. But they should be getting what you represent they are buying.

Again, you are no competition. Your pups do not even come close to Jennifer's. But I may be bias because I have so much respect for her and her breeding program. I have seen them from birth and able to watch them grown until they go to their homes. I have seen them with their mommies and littermates. I have watched them grow each and every week WITH their true dates of birth from beginning to end.

And, I have seen a number of pups on the Internet that are either inferior or superior to Jen's and those breeders, to my kowledge, are not trying to destroy her or visa versa. These are professional, intelligent business people who are secure with their product and up-front with the customers. And, then, there is you. You are definitely in a class of your own.

Now, about the assassination of your character. I have told you before, one cannot assassinate one's character if one has no character. So, again, you flatter yourself. You have assassinated your own character, that is if you ever had one. You are your own worst enemy and the reason you have so many problems is because you are not woman enough to look in the mirror and take responsibility for your own actions.

You say you are a hobby breeder, but how can that be when you are peddling puppies all over the Internet. Now, whose lie is that? These websites are written by YOUR OWN HAND! And, you also state that you sell these puppies to pay for the cats you rescue because you get no donations. Now, isn't that rich! See how rediculous you look? You breed mix-breeds that our shelters are already full of in order to pay for the over population of cats. You are a walking work of deception and stupidity.

Oh, if I had an employer I believe they would see the same disgust in you that everyone else sees. You are one questionable individual. So give it a rest. And leave religion out of it because you showed your ignorance and prejudice when you made that derrogatory anti-Semetic statement regarding Ms. Pudgug. Your hate shows through and we all know why you hate the Chihuahua Clubs, don't we. Could it have something to do with numerous complaints regarding unethical business practices? Did you get caught with your pants down?

If you are so concerned that I am "defaming" you, we have a wonderful judicial system in this great land of ours. I will stop my investigation when I have a reasonable, intelligent, and legal tribunal to demand it.

And, since you like quoting the Bible, here's one for you: "You reap what you sow."
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#25 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Please Debra don't do me any favors

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

OK wake up and smell the coffee. You should know what blackmail is. I have the emails remember? lets see what type of character you are. You wanted me to walk away from helping your customers or you would post my record.

I knew I could not do that and took the chance it was not a big deal but you make it one. YOU take jabs at me, at others on your website constantly and I am tired of it. You steal info off my website to make it look as your own because you are not smart enough to come up with your own.

When you do, it is totally ridiculous but who cares about that, not I, I care about you putting MY STUFF on your site, I care that you are slamming a reputable breeder that you do not know the whole story about nor do I but why this breeder? out of all the breeders on this site why this one? YOU KNOW WHY!

your past customer bought a puppy from him, a healthy one who is doing extremely well in the show ring. THAT is the only reason you picked that breeder out of all of them on this site. Vindictive. You have no clue what he is doing for them, or what actually transpired nor do I, Just your way of taking Jabs at your customer. And so I take jabs at Teacups!

I do not care how you run your site, leave me and mine off of it.

Please do not do me any favors referring people to me, I cannot return the favor after what I have been through. I honestly could not be responsible for anyone going through it again. I think you may have learned your lesson, as I have not had anyone email any more comments on you. I hope this is the case. All I care about are the people and the puppies.

I am not a large scale breeder as you own more dogs then me. My dogs are all with me and not in some kennel 40 miles away. How can you say the clubs only like large scale breeders? Dumb, dumb response, I think Judy only has 5 dogs! They don't like designer dogs, that is for sure.

Use "Teacups" all you want I don't care, Guarantee your pups will be a certain size, again I don't care. Misinform the general public all you want. JUST LEAVE MY STUFF OFF YOUR SITE!

I know it must turn some stomachs when they see how you talk about that breeder after the ordeal they went through. Sure makes me sick to mine.

Oh, I forgot the sharp jab to one of your customers calling an obviously healthy puppy Gomez. Do you not know what these people are going through on a daily bases? Do you care? yet you try to hurt more? so sad. I don't feel not one bit of sadness for you, but for your customers.

Don't feel sad for me! No need to, I treat my customers as my family, as if they are taking one of my own children (actually they are) If there is a problem, we work on it together no matter what it is.

Stop taking these jabs at your past customers who are dealing with the heartbreak you gave them daily, stop steeling stuff off my site, quit downing other breeders for the exact same thing you did.

Please do not refer anyone to me as you can tell I do not need it, nor will I do the same for you. Reputation speaks for itself! I receive many, many, many, referrals on a daily bases from my customers, that is proof enough I am doing what I need to be doing.

As soon as my stuff is off your site and you quit taking jabs at your past customers, I will let this report move down. If not, then I do not mind keeping my own report at the top. I am not concerned about my record, I have had some wonderful feed back from people. You think it hurts me? Nope, not one bit.

I am still waiting for proof of death threats.

I am sure Arte will respond to your ridicules accusations on her own.
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#26 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Need to address the Animal Control

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Based on the behavior of this breeder, misspelled names, all the different names, health cert with white out, no address (mailbox etc) cell phone, wrong birth dates for pups, possible wrong parents?. All the internet scams going on, wouldn't this appear to be one too? very sick dying dog. Nasty, nasty emails from the breeder to the buyer. SO, buyer did what I would suspect any one to do, she called the police, police suggested civil court and contacting this place and that BBB, attorney general, so on so forth including Animal control. IF this breeder has reason's to change the spelling of her name and names of others and use initials then there must be other buyers who have gone through the same thing with this breeder and the possible reason why this breeder is in hiding (don't forget about all the company name changes). She did call animal control. I would of too if I was in her shoes along with any other buyer who got treated the way this one did. Animal control went out and found lots of kitties so don't even go there saying they called to harm your little kitties. She didn't even know about them, they were not on your site at that time. I have proof so don't even go there. Animal control found no adult dogs!

I would talk to your friend about why she called animal control. I thought it was pretty shitty she wrote a report since you did pay her back less 500.00. Since she didn't want to take on the task of possible lux surgery of costing 3000.00 I didn't blame her for pulling out like she did. But didn't feel it was right to write the report. I have proof of those emails as well. Once I read her report and she had explained how you gave her a short amount of time to come up with the balance of 3000.00 for the dog after you told her she had plenty of time, I thought that was strong arming your customers, so maybe the report was justified who knows, that is between you and your friend.

Now, to address the nice kennel you keep some of your dogs at, Hmmm I swore I heard somewhere that you had to remove all your dogs about a year ago. But who knows, we all know about hearsay huh? Probably around the time you had posted looking for foster families to take care of the females you had. ring a bell? I could be wrong. But I got proof of that as well.

Why 6 vets? isn't that hard to keep track who has record of what dog? or is it just an office with 6 vets in it? If you are a small time hobby breeder (CA law states anyone who breeds no more then 2 litters a year is a hobby breeder, everyone else must have proper licenses) Then why need 6 vets?

Ok, I think I moved the report to the top now..
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#27 Consumer Suggestion

No hate, just so sad so much corruption and evil among reputable breeders.

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

The only consumer agency after me Arte will be the one you plan to build online ;)

Read the definition on EXTORTION and BLACKMAIL

You work with troubled young people who need help with anger management and need to learn to behave properly in our society.

Your excessive abuse towards me has made me shocked that you are working with such children when you have proven you yourself have serious issues handling your own hate and anger.

yes I do feel the program you work for should know about how you behave ,because you work with impressionable kids and if you can't help yoursef, how are you suppose to help them?

if you were at work in a factory, haha, would I need to worry and contact your boss?

Any normal adult would be worried about you being in a job where you are suppose to be able have strong skills to help troubled children deal with anger.

What ever you put up on your CONSUMER website about me I can explain it simple and clear.
I am NOT a broker.That is a lie.
Obviously your website will be filled with many many twists and fabrications which are called LIBEL and SLANDER, just to defame me, not to help the consumer.

Thank-you for making it clear to the whole internet world ( lots of witinesses) that you will create a CONSUMER website and bash the dickens out of me.

Also jennifer regarding your post..

Did you realize what yur post above said?? If I create my website to YOUR approval you will all stop harassing and abusing me.That is extortion.
Forcing or coercing someone through threats is illegal.

You are over powered by the chihuahua club but you do need their support since you will have a kennel. You need to be in their favor. I dont need that.
Your Chihuahua Club people are not nice and deceive the consumer by lying and bashing decent breeders.

All you REAl breeders WHO PRODUCE NICE DOGS HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES .You have no real interest in protecting the consumer by going after REAL SCAMMERS.
Your interest is protecting YOUR OWN interests and putting your competition out of business by any means.

jennifer I would have liked peace to the point that I would even refer customers to you as I feel you do love your dogs as i do and take good care of them.
I am not out to hurt your character,but only to defend my own as you give me no choice.

i feel sorry for you and I really do. This is not a snide remark.I promise to God on my life I feel sorry for you.Maybe I am just ahving PMS right now or maybe menopause hormornes! But I feel real sadness for YOU. i don't know why as I should be furious and despise you and yours.

I forgive you Jennifer and i wish you the best.I really do. You made a statement to me once that we breeders need to stick together as we have so much against us.

This hate you and your friends have is unhealthy and you must stop trying to run my life and hurt my character.
Arte i think your website will do good if you direct it to really help the public and not to just bash me or any other breeder personally.

If anyone wants to buy a puppy from Jennifer I bet she takes good care of them and do so buy from her.
On the other side, I have a right to peace and the pursuit of happiness and I am not doing anything illegal or agaisnt the law!

I will continue to run my website MY WAY and will not be intimidated by abuse or defamation. I have not ever intentionally mislead anyone. I am the frist to explain that there is one chihuahua breed!
maybe I like the term TEACUP and like to use it to describe my smallest ones in the TOY size standard. Geez.. Shoot me huh?
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#28 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Ummm you said your daughter was the accountant

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

AM Borrassa was the accountant NOT the daughter, She actually told us to sue AM borassa she sent the mispelled "Bourassa" "Borassa" on purpose as to not be able to identify her. I have the money order copies, signed and by Amber with the correct spelled last name. You wrote on front of the money orders AMBER why manipulate it? why not tell the buyer up front AMBER not AM (simple explanation) extortion! can't spell your last name? I have the emails she tells the buyer "I think you need to sue Amber since that is who you sent the money too" that is protection I would say! with family like that who needs enemies.

You opened up the can of worms by posting false reports. We have found out more then you would like us to know about your tactics (thank you Arte, Thank God you are on my side lol). You now need to let this go. I see you have removed your garbage about the show breeder and that is good, now we can let this go?? maybe if you remove the stupid stuff about AKC and Teacups. People wouldn't judge you.
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#29 Consumer Suggestion

Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I have NURSING MOTHER dogs at my homes and puppies. I tell all my customers that we have some dogs split up beteeen homes and some are also boarded at a nice kennel with grass, toys, beds, lots of excercise

Lets not knock the home breeder nor clean nice kennels.
My home does not stink and you know it as you and yours worked out fake reports to get animal control out here .

Animal control has the police files of these false reports in their records and now people have to have MEDICAL PROOF and PROOF OF CLAIMS to make a report on me

They are on to you guys!

CLEAN AND HEALTHY IS WHAT THE ANIMAL CONTROL REPORTS STATED.
Cant you make ANY TRUE statements?
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#30 Consumer Suggestion

Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I have NURSING MOTHER dogs at my homes and puppies. I tell all my customers that we have some dogs split up beteeen homes and some are also boarded at a nice kennel with grass, toys, beds, lots of excercise

Lets not knock the home breeder nor clean nice kennels.
My home does not stink and you know it as you and yours worked out fake reports to get animal control out here .

Animal control has the police files of these false reports in their records and now people have to have MEDICAL PROOF and PROOF OF CLAIMS to make a report on me

They are on to you guys!

CLEAN AND HEALTHY IS WHAT THE ANIMAL CONTROL REPORTS STATED.
Cant you make ANY TRUE statements?
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#31 Consumer Suggestion

Clean kennels and clean homes. Tell SOME truth ladies.My last post on here

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

I have NURSING MOTHER dogs at my homes and puppies. I tell all my customers that we have some dogs split up beteeen homes and some are also boarded at a nice kennel with grass, toys, beds, lots of excercise

Lets not knock the home breeder nor clean nice kennels.
My home does not stink and you know it as you and yours worked out fake reports to get animal control out here .

Animal control has the police files of these false reports in their records and now people have to have MEDICAL PROOF and PROOF OF CLAIMS to make a report on me

They are on to you guys!

CLEAN AND HEALTHY IS WHAT THE ANIMAL CONTROL REPORTS STATED.
Cant you make ANY TRUE statements?
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#32 Consumer Comment

Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

First of all, of all the documents my investigative staff have acquired, there have not been any death threats against you. You are not worth going to jail.

Secondly, does this peace offer come because you have been caught? You are the one who tripped up yourself. Your greed and deceitful ways is what is about to expose you. All evidence was written by our own hand and practiced by you by your own admission.

Whether you have bred the pups you sell or broker them for other breeders is not the issue. They are cute little pupies and I can't understand why you cannot sell them just as that! Whatever price you want to set on them is your business. But when you set your description of the pup for the purpose of getting a higher price and the information is until, that is FRAUD! You are an active participant in fraud. When you clean up your act and treat the public with respect, then consumer agencies will not be after you. And, when you stop spreading lies about things you no nothing about, especially about the puppy who died, then people will leave you alone.

On your website you state "this breeder and her gang" has been harassing me for 10 year, then it went to 5 years, and now you are down to 2 years. You would not know the truth or be able to tell it if it bite you in the ass.

When you stop ripping off the public with your lies about the Chihuahua breed and stop extorting and black mailing your opponents, maybe you can create some peace for yourself. In the meantime, my evidence and information will be distributed. After all, you did not see anything wrong with pubishing it on the wide wide world of the internet, why worry if I share it also.
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#33 Consumer Comment

Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

First of all, of all the documents my investigative staff have acquired, there have not been any death threats against you. You are not worth going to jail.

Secondly, does this peace offer come because you have been caught? You are the one who tripped up yourself. Your greed and deceitful ways is what is about to expose you. All evidence was written by our own hand and practiced by you by your own admission.

Whether you have bred the pups you sell or broker them for other breeders is not the issue. They are cute little pupies and I can't understand why you cannot sell them just as that! Whatever price you want to set on them is your business. But when you set your description of the pup for the purpose of getting a higher price and the information is until, that is FRAUD! You are an active participant in fraud. When you clean up your act and treat the public with respect, then consumer agencies will not be after you. And, when you stop spreading lies about things you no nothing about, especially about the puppy who died, then people will leave you alone.

On your website you state "this breeder and her gang" has been harassing me for 10 year, then it went to 5 years, and now you are down to 2 years. You would not know the truth or be able to tell it if it bite you in the ass.

When you stop ripping off the public with your lies about the Chihuahua breed and stop extorting and black mailing your opponents, maybe you can create some peace for yourself. In the meantime, my evidence and information will be distributed. After all, you did not see anything wrong with pubishing it on the wide wide world of the internet, why worry if I share it also.
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Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

First of all, of all the documents my investigative staff have acquired, there have not been any death threats against you. You are not worth going to jail.

Secondly, does this peace offer come because you have been caught? You are the one who tripped up yourself. Your greed and deceitful ways is what is about to expose you. All evidence was written by our own hand and practiced by you by your own admission.

Whether you have bred the pups you sell or broker them for other breeders is not the issue. They are cute little pupies and I can't understand why you cannot sell them just as that! Whatever price you want to set on them is your business. But when you set your description of the pup for the purpose of getting a higher price and the information is until, that is FRAUD! You are an active participant in fraud. When you clean up your act and treat the public with respect, then consumer agencies will not be after you. And, when you stop spreading lies about things you no nothing about, especially about the puppy who died, then people will leave you alone.

On your website you state "this breeder and her gang" has been harassing me for 10 year, then it went to 5 years, and now you are down to 2 years. You would not know the truth or be able to tell it if it bite you in the ass.

When you stop ripping off the public with your lies about the Chihuahua breed and stop extorting and black mailing your opponents, maybe you can create some peace for yourself. In the meantime, my evidence and information will be distributed. After all, you did not see anything wrong with pubishing it on the wide wide world of the internet, why worry if I share it also.
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#35 Consumer Comment

Do you call extortion wanting to have peace?

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

First of all, of all the documents my investigative staff have acquired, there have not been any death threats against you. You are not worth going to jail.

Secondly, does this peace offer come because you have been caught? You are the one who tripped up yourself. Your greed and deceitful ways is what is about to expose you. All evidence was written by our own hand and practiced by you by your own admission.

Whether you have bred the pups you sell or broker them for other breeders is not the issue. They are cute little pupies and I can't understand why you cannot sell them just as that! Whatever price you want to set on them is your business. But when you set your description of the pup for the purpose of getting a higher price and the information is until, that is FRAUD! You are an active participant in fraud. When you clean up your act and treat the public with respect, then consumer agencies will not be after you. And, when you stop spreading lies about things you no nothing about, especially about the puppy who died, then people will leave you alone.

On your website you state "this breeder and her gang" has been harassing me for 10 year, then it went to 5 years, and now you are down to 2 years. You would not know the truth or be able to tell it if it bite you in the ass.

When you stop ripping off the public with your lies about the Chihuahua breed and stop extorting and black mailing your opponents, maybe you can create some peace for yourself. In the meantime, my evidence and information will be distributed. After all, you did not see anything wrong with pubishing it on the wide wide world of the internet, why worry if I share it also.
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DAUGHTER NOT A MINOR AND FILES TAXES and these people know this

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

just another one of the lies.I did tell this woman a couple years ago my daughter was a minor thinking she would leave my kid alone.
Actually my daughter was a adult and filing taxes too.

Jennifer and her friends had posted my daughters personal information online INCLUDING HER CHECKING ACCOUNT NUMBER,

So to protect my child I told them she was a minor thinking they would have the respect to remove the bank account number etc...
They know I told this white lie to protect my daughter.

The agressive and abusive and illegal activities online against others will cause the ones being abused to take defensive actions to protect themselves.


White lies are like telling your grnadmother you love her dress when you don't

White lies are not used to cause injury.

Who of you wouldnt tell a little white lie to protect your own flesh and blood fromn online bullies?

There is a big difference between telling grandma you like her dress when you don't and conspiring to ruin a good persons character and reputation through the use of libel and slander
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#37 Consumer Suggestion

Deceased gentleman? How twisted and sick a statement to suggest fraud

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

My HUSBAND had one Chihuahua dog listed under his name BEFORE he died.It was HIS dog.

Libel and slander are not only morally corrupt s according to the Bible but also illegal by mans laws.
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#38 Consumer Suggestion

NONSENSE NEEDS TO STOP.JENNIFER WARTENA LOVES HER DOGS AND SO DO I

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

This is all nonsense and has to stop.

I did not use a fake name to write the A-Ave Maryland report and you both know it ! That person made a report on me the same day 3/5.I do not write bad reports on myself!!

I emailed you Jennifer and told you to ignore it. as I had ignored your buyer Marisa who put a brutal report up on me a few weeks ago.

but you and Arte go online wrongly thinking A Ave Maryland was me and suggest terrible false allegations about me

When you discovered the A-Ave Maryland had written a report on me too, you saw you were wrong, BUT instead of apologizing to me, the harassment has INCREASED

Now you think I am BRE and she wrote a nasty report about me too same day as she wrote yours.
Why would I post a terrible report about myself?????

I have emailed you over and over telling you that we need to support each other on Ripoff and to make peace so that people do not post and pit us against each other.I pursued peace with you before but your friedns do not leave things be.

I emailed you and asked you to try to control your friends. I told you my friends and customers respect my wishes and do not post.

I have been abused for 2 years now with horrible lies.
My daughter has a right to receive payments as she is a breeder too! So she used her first and middle initials on a check and spelled out her last name. Big deal.
You and your lawless group have made disgusting statements about me online.
I am in GOOD standing with AKC.Lets stop that lie NOW.
i have some dogs registered under me, my mom and my daughter .Big deal.

I have kept my Names Dollbabies, BabyDolls, ChihuahuaBabes.I need to change my dollbabies because ,com is a porn site!
Some of those names you posted are made up bologna.I was advised by top website companies to change my company name a few times in the last two years,due to your libel and conspiracy to ruin my hobby, joy and selling of my puppies.Just a few of the companes that advised me were Global advertizing, Dog Breeder Listing Companies, my friends and peers, my website company and lawyer.

How LEGAL was it to post hidden text on your website,unseen by your website company because it was agaisnt their rules and you didnt want to get caught. White text on white background.The SEARCH ENGINES picked it up. How mature is this:

DONT BUY PUPPIES FROM DEBRA BECAUSE SHE SELLS SICK PUPPIES and breaks hearts blah blah blah

I have sold TWO puppies with defects, both sold by ACCIDENT.Both Vet checked before sale and showed to be healthy.

Jennifer you sold a puppy just a couple months ago who died from internal parasites and you broke a heart. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN

I am receving death threats now from you guys!
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU INVOLVED IN THIS CONSPIRACY

there are breeders online who steal pictures of other breeders dogs and post them to their websites as there own.They have Chihuahua mixes they sell as purebreds.
Why not help the consumer with THOSE REAL scammers

I have a hundred happy references you are blind to due to hate.

I have people who buy puppies from me just because they are scared to death to go to people like you and your gang!
When you defame another breeder on the telephone or in an email it doesn't make you look good.

You can tell by my hundred refs and website I take good crare of my dogs. I work with 6 Veterinarians.SIX who will give good refs on me.
My dogs go in regular to have teeth cleaned and check-ups and to have eyes checked and knees checked before breeding.

You have to admit that it may work against you to continue this harassment toward me. Maybe a few gullible people may listen to your stories about me and be worried to buy from me but just as many will think it is low class to do what you are doing.

Arte you say you are a cancer survivor as I am. This stress is not good for us or our health. we have babies that need us to be around for another 10 to 15 years.

I know you love jennifer and I would be willing to agree with you that she has come back to become a good member of society IF SHE WOULD SHOW IT ...that the record is in the past and old..... by giving all this lawless hateful activity

Please push for peace and throw down our weapons.
Life is short and we need to enjoy what we have left of it.

We are all different but this is American and people have the right to be different without getting abused, bashed and having death threats put on them.

I am good to my customers, I had a misunderstanding with ONE in 2005 due to her being in a different county,my suspecting she was a scammer.She and I didnt communicate well.My fault,her fault.A mistake we have to live with.

There are breeders posted on here now who have sold to other countries , the buyers claim the dogs are ill dying and demand refunds,Huge scale wars going on.

There is one of your breeder friends going through a serious buyer/customer battle right now with his sale of a puppy who died within 2 weeks.

Stuff happens ONCE IN A RARE BLUE MOON.
So I had my blue moon 2005 and it is over

we need tomove on.It has been TWO YEARS!
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#39 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Keeping the report to the TOP!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I think this is a great opportunity to thank all of you who have Googled my name and came across these idiotic and false reports about me. I thank you for taking the time to read through them and see that they are false. I have had so many people email me regarding them and say, Good for you. So that is nice. I have also had people email me after they have purchased pups to say they have seen the reports and state, Boy, if I would of seen the report prior to purchasing, I may have walked way. But now having my puppy and knowing you the way I do, I am glad I didn't see the reports. I am sure there are others who have walked away due to the reports. I would have loved for them to have read the reports below and make their judgment based on these reports. You will see my part in this was merely helping out a few customers who had the misfortune of running into the breeder that they did.

So, here are the reports to look up if you are interested in seeing what Debra Drury, Bourassa, Borassa, Washington, Hagle, Haggle, Adorno has done to her customers. Please read what she has put them through as well as me. I stand my ground against these types of breeders who will turn the story around and blame their customers. She is a sick individual with no morals or ethics and I welcome her to take me to court for standing up for others and myself.

This one is the first and the one with the proof
8/5/05 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff152606.htm

Then the rest
5/5/06 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff190129.htm
5/4/06 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff183825.htm
4/5/06 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff185130.htm
4/13/06 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff186475.htm
4/3/06 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff184783.htm
12/24/05 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff158915.htm
8/28/05 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff155261.htm
8/5/05 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff152615.htm
8/5/05 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff152606.htm

Here are the false reports that I suspect were written by the breeder. The one listed below is Envy Chihuahuas. In one of the reports above, Envy replied to and offered the lady who had been ripped off a free puppy. Not too long after, she herself ended up with a false report.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff189330.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff240769.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff240353.htm

Since I have done nothing wrong, I will NOT change my name to hide. My website will always be www.wartenaschihuahuas.com as well as www.jenschibabies.com (for those who have a hard time with my name)

All the company names used to date 3/26/07 by this Debra Drury are:
Chidolls.com
Chidolls.net
babydollpups
emerald city chihuahuas
luvsbabydolls
how funny, her newest one is debschibabies.com Hmmm sounds a bit familiar
Debs home raised munckins
Munchkinland chihuahuas
Chihuahaubabes
munchkinpups@aol.com
babydollpups@aol.com
chinadolls
malteepoo-puppies.com
teacupandtoypups
fashionpoos
TEACUPANDTOYPUPPIES.NET

The last four are the names used for her mutt page, designer dogs as some may call them.

If she has done nothing wrong, why so many names? Wizard of Claws did the same thing. They have changed their name to avoid all the media and bad publicity on this board. If you have done nothing wrong then why hide?

Okay, so total counting all dogs on her 2 websites, there are well over 60 dogs and they are a small family of breeders who share their love for the breed and raise their dogs in their houses. Holy moly!! 60 dogs! 3 houses! All 3 houses for which we have the addresses too) means they have at least 20 dogs per house! In the bedrooms? Can you imagine the smell? No wonder she has all those air filter contraptions. And, since every county has a four pet per household limit, they can't go outside and enjoy the sun! So, are they kept in crates and pens all day every day, 24/7, 365 days. Poor mama and papa dogs! And I forgot to include the 12 cats! And that is only at one house! However, my dogs live on 5 acres and have lush green lawns, soft comfy beds at night in their huge building which is right off the main house (actually in better condition then the house but we won't open up that can of worms), Okay, I said my piece regarding my facility and theirs. In any case you can come visit ALL my dogs and ALL my puppies as long as you are willing to scrub down.

In addition, I am building a rescue and that is the only truth this breeder has ever shared about me. It will be a huge 800 sq ft building holding up to approximately 25 dogs. Each one will be treated as my own until they find their forever homes. Each one will have the same luxuries as my dogs and be treated as part of the family until I can find them their forever family. They will remain with me until they do find their forever family AND NONE WILL EVER BE EUTHANIZED. We also will take in others besides Chihuahuas as the county animal control deems proper. I am so happy to be able to give back to the canine community. This has been a dream of mine since the minute I decided to breed. This has been a goal that I will accomplish. We are licensed and animal control inspected, AKC inspected. All of our dogs are registered to me and not under fictitious names as we have discovered by this breeder or some deceased gentleman. However clueless Bre may be, all rescues are spayed/neutered before being assigned to our facility. In addition, all of my dogs are AKC registered. And DNAd but not CKC (and I don't mean Canadian). All are of high quality and NOT rescues or brokered. They are all legitimately bred or purchased by me.

As stated above, potential buyers are more then welcome to come to our home. We will not require you to meet us at the pet store, our vets, the park, or some third-party's home. You will be able to observe the puppies with their birth mothers and not with just a picture of them on our website.

In addition, we will give you the exact spelling of our name and not hide behind initials such as AM Borrassa and then change your money order to Amber Bourassa (which is or was at the time when payments were made, a minor child). This too is evidenced in black and white!

Any of my customers who would like to respond, GO FOR IT! I want to keep this report at the top!!
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#40 Consumer Comment

I am a customer of Jen Wartena...

AUTHOR: Christine - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to set the record straight about the recent attack on Jen Wartena and the reference to her "big large dog pound out in the boon docks"! First of all, I have been to Jen's property and it is great for her dogs. Lots of room to run and play. I purchased a puppy from her in January, 2007. Not only was my puppy healthy, happy, well adjusted and pee pad trained, he was well taken care of by Jen. Jen breeds her puppies striving to improve the Chi breed and every one of her customers appreciates this. She is one of the most loving breeders I have met and she stands behind her dogs 100%, no matter what.

It is really sad that some people use this ripoffreport.com website as a tool to injure people's reputation because "they can" and because they are jealous. Jealousy is a very dangerous emotion and when used by bad people, can cause harm to others. Why do you use this site to make a perfectly good breeder look bad? Let me tell you it is NOT working. Jen has a huge following and all of her hard work with her dogs and her up and coming rescue will pay off for her and her family in the end by making their hearts full of love.

Please grow up and learn when enough is enough. If you are not following the breeding guidelines then do something about it but don't blame others for your shortcomings.
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#41 Consumer Comment

Rescues are also inspected

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

Bre, I notice you have made three entries on Ripoff today. You are very busy little lady and I would bet your name is not Bre.

It is too bad that you don't know what you are talking about and are apparently jealous of what Ms. Wartena is providing to her community.

I would rather purchase a puppy from a well oiled and running kennel than from poor dogs who are kept in cages stacked 2 or 3 times over in your garage, kitchen and bedroom of your trailer. I guess that is why you need those air freshing things because if you are breeding 8 dogs in your house, surely it smells to high heaven.

Oh, and by the way, Bre, Debra, or whoever you are, extortion is a felony and slander with the intent to harm is a felony. Your trying to extort me by threatening to go to my employer will be published today for all to see and my investigation of your activities will not stop!
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#42 Consumer Suggestion

Jennifer Wartena JENS' CHI BABIES a big large dog pound

AUTHOR: Bre - (U.S.A.)

I Went to her website and she is going to be a big large kennel in the boon dock woods. Poor dogs bred for money.Why do breeders have to have so many dogs to breed for money.How about not more then 8 and in a nice house.

I have a felony too and I do not think having three felonies is bad, So what if Jen Wartenas has a few felonies. My brother has 2 felonies and my Unce is in prison now for a couple years for drugs but at least it wasnt murder.Now that would be a bad felony. My grandma who is 61 had a couple felonies too when she was young.Most of my friends have been to jail a few times but they get out in a year or less most times.

What is bad that this Jennifer Wartena chick is having a big gigantic kennel and using dogs.I hope the rescue dogs don't get breeded too.I hope it is a real rescu and not a way to get more dogs to mate like I heard happens.
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#43 Consumer Comment

I own a healthy Chihuahua I bought from Jen

AUTHOR: Chand - (U.S.A.)

I bought a Chihuahua from Jen Wartena back in January 2007. I took the dog to the vet, and he confirmed the dog is healthy.

I actually went to Jen's house to pick up my puppy, and she is an amazing breeder. She keeps the new puppies in her own living room, with the dams attending to them. It is rare that a breeder takes such good care of puppies and their dams.

All of the puppies appeared to be healthy and very friendly. She not only raises quality Chihuahuas -- she and her children play with them and make sure they are properly socialized. She raises her puppies on some of the highest quality premium foods available.

These accusations are simply not true. I have visited Jen's home and the puppies live in her own home. She would not sell a sick puppy. Go to her "past puppies" page and you will see nothing but satisfied customers.

The puppy I bought from her (Silvester -- son of Chico and Babydoll) is not only healthy, but exceptionally beautiful. I get nothing but compliments on how cute he looks, and how different he looks than most Chihuahuas. Unlike most breeders who pump out the Paris Hilton fawn colored Chihuahua, Jen has a lot of diversity in the gene pools she breeds. No Chihuahua looks like Silvester. He is a unique and beautiful dog that is physically strong (he can run up stairs faster than me!) and well behaved.
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#44 Consumer Comment

I look forward to see our puppies also

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

I am always interested in new breeders as I will be showing some of my Wartena Chihuahuas and, should they do well, be looking for qualified studs.

You sound like a really nice person and it too bad you have gotten caught up in this thing. I may be able to track down your culprit as I have an excellent private investigator working on this matter.

I am sure you see, as well as everyone else, that this breeder loves to exploit Ms. Wartena's background. The funny thing about it is that she never says what the actual charges are and any fool can find out at their local court house. This is just another misleading sham against someone who has made a very successful comeback for herself and her family. In fact, I am so impressed and that is another reason she has my business, my family's business, and my friends' and newly met friends' business.

Since I work for the court system, I know what the charges are and it is of no importance to me because I believe in our Constitution.

I look forward to watching your website and wish you well and hope this "questionable" person does not involve you in her web of deception any further.
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#45 Consumer Comment

The real Alanna

AUTHOR: Alanna - (U.S.A.)

My name is Alanna and I am a chi breeder in Maryland. About 3 days ago, someone hacked into my email and has wreaked havoc using it. They have sent emails on it and posted on here acting as me. I can tell you certainly that it wasn't me. I have filed a complaint with yahoo (My email provider) and have now been looking everywhere that I can and did a search to see that there is a post here that was supposed to be me. It was not me and I hope that anyone who knows me knows that I do not and never will operate in this malicious manner. It appears that they have been sending emails

Jen, I do not know you, have never talked to you but I hope that you accept my sincere apology that someone who attacked you pretending to be me caused. Some people have nothing better to do than waste time, energy and air causing problems.

As for the person who hacked into my system, shame on you. I have taken steps to prevent this from happening again (as they also spent about $2k on ebay as me) and if you are caught, you will certainly be prosecuted.

Jen, good luck to you and to your breeding program. While I haven't been breeding as long as you and some others, I certainly love this little breed and look to contribute as much in my lifetime as you do.

The real Alanna of Kids Chihuahuas in Avenue Maryland.
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#46 Consumer Comment

Correction to my new puppy's daddy

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

Sorry, I inadvertently said Taz is the sire of Godiva's puppies. Actually, it is Chico. I was wishing it would be Taz, but old Taz has a new litter coming up, so I am excited about getting one of his pups. And I am hoping that Susy and Jen will work together so that I can get a pup from Godiva and Taz.

It is nice to see two great breeders working together for quality puppies.
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#47 Consumer Comment

Soon to be owner of one of Godiva's puppies

AUTHOR: Arte - (U.S.A.)

As the future owner of one of Godvia's puppies, I can attest to the fact that Jennifer Wartena is most definitely the owner of Godvia as I have seen both Godiva, Taz (the sire), the litter, and the proof of ownership of both Godiva and Taz. These are the credentials I require from a breeder BEFORE I render any money to any private seller. In fact, I visited Ms. Wartena's establishment to inquire about a puppy from another litter on the day Godiva arrived from Susyschihuahuas. She is an adorable little dog, as is the sire. In anticipating the breeding and whelping of a litter from this match, I placed my name on an early "waiting list" for this litter. And it was well worth it. These puppies are so magnificent and I just hate that little Godiva is going to go back to Florida. I guess California has been too cold for her.

I suspect this accusation is not from an "interested" consumer, but from a breeder who has been harassing a number of breeders in California who operate reputable breeding programs. Upon my private investigation, this breeder has used numerous alias and is not in good standing with AKC and will not be ever again for approximately 10 years. Therefore, this breeder/broker has not been able to intice consumers like myself to purchase her questionable stock.

I am not a breeder but a lover of the Chihuahua breed. I have been purchasing Chihuahuas for myself, including various friends and family members as gifts and, therefore, have spent a fortune on puppies during the past several years. Because of the quality, integrity, and satisfaction we have received, all of my puppies have been from the Wartena bloodlines.

If anyone is guilty of anything, it is the person who wrote the these lies. It is a desparate attempt to eliminate the competition. And I don't understand why because this breeder's inventory could never stand up against a Wartena Chihuahua.
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#48 Consumer Comment

Pictures

AUTHOR: Susy - (U.S.A.)

I just wanted to clear up the last comment made, the chocolate/tan female on my females page belongs to Jennifer Wartena and I recently purchased her, that is why she is on my site and Jen's site.
I just wanted to clear that up. Thanks.

Susy - Florida
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#49 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Your an idiot!

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Hey contact Susy you fool! I do own Godiva and she has a litter by my male. What is stupid idiot you are!! Hey Susy is a good friend of mine and she just purchased Godiva from me. As soon As Godiva's babies are weaned, she will return to Susy Chihuahuas.

why don't you ask questions before accusing people of stupid stuff. Just because I don't buy my dogs from the local paper like you!
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#50 Consumer Comment

Jen Wartena has more fraud

AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)

I am here to say I am shocked to see that Jen Wartena has stolen pictures from a reputable breeder and has pictures showing as her own dogs. If you go to her website, she shows pictures from another breeder in Florida. susyschihuahuas.com and you can see that Jen has ripped off Susys pictures claiming they are her own dogs.
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#51 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Type of people I am up against. They conspire to put other breeders out of business

AUTHOR: Debra - (U.S.A.)

Record 1

Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA
Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 90F11087
Offense Date 12/20/1990
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY


Record 2
Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA
Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 104448
Offense Date 05/07/1991
Offense County Sacramento

Record 3
Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA
Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 92F04356
Offense Date 05/18/1992
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY

Jennifer Wartena and Debbie Mc Cooeye are nothing more then criminals and continue to abuse and harass law abiding citizens to this day.

Record 4
Identification
Name: JENNIFER A WARTENA

Source: California
Address: CA

Offense
County Charged: Sacramento
Case Number: 93F06962
Offense Date 08/18/1993
Offense County Sacramento
Offense Description FELONY

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#52 Consumer Comment

Chinadolls,Luvs Chi Babies, Dollbabies,Angelbabies,Babydollpups,Emerald City Chihuahuas, Babydoll Famous Pups, Famous Pups

AUTHOR: Deborah - (Canada)

My name is Debbie McCooeye. I am the buyer of the sick puppy Gomez from CHIDOLLS.

Each and every report here on ripoff against Jennifer Wartena is because she is one of the most respected, honest breeders that has come up against a large puppymill operation in California.

The owners of this puppymill are doing their best to discredit Jennifer. This puppymill ring leader is Debra Drury/Bourassa/Washington (Chidolls, Famous Pups), Dawn Dalyce (Sugar N Spice), Brenda Hagle (Currently suspended from the AKC from Lees Fashion Poos), A.M. Borassa (Amber Bourassa), Maureen Drury/Bourassa, Mark and Cindy Drury, Della Drury, Brenda Bourassa, etc.,

Jennifer assisted me with my sick puppy when Debra Drury refused to honor her contract or the California Puppy Lemon Laws. Due to her assistance with the health of my puppy, she has received numerous threats from the above ring leader.


Below is one email that was received by Jennifer and myself some months ago. It is clear that the author (MAUREEN) has a plan on how to deal with Jennifer. I have hasd to edit the vulgar language so this can be posted on ripoff. Ths plan has now been launched full force.

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From: Chidolls@
To: jwartena@
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:29 PM
Subject: STOP EMAILING US YOU NASTY B$%*H

THIS ISNT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF GETTING SUED.WHATS GOES AROUND COMES AROUND AND YOU WILL NOT EMERGE UNSCATHED B$%&H.

MAUREEN

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Chidolls has been known as the following names over the past 6 months:
Chinadolls
Luvs Chi Babies
Dollbabies
Angel Babies
Babydollpups
Emerald City Chihuahuas
Babydoll Famous Pups
Famous Pups
These women will stop at nothing to make another breeder that is in the same State as them look HORRIBLE.
DO NOT BELIEVE THIS REPORT. The above email tells the full story
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#53 Consumer Comment

Linda if you were a true customer then what is up with the proof

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I offered you lots of money to show proof, I know Debra put you up to this and I want you to know, Debra has stole, committed fraud against others as well as her family members including a disabled man, she has committed state and federal fraud, broke hearts of many and many families, and I have had more people contact me wanting to know what they can do to get their money back. She is a far better criminal then I could think of being and she will get caught. KARMA will get her and I will gladly sit in court as she is handed down the sentance. I am working deligently witht the DAs office regarding all these reports, they now have 3. So I know she wanted you to write this report against me and that is fine but you can recoop your money if you would please contact me. My lawyer is arranging all the court docs as we speak. I have a PI (private investigator) working on all the names. SO fingers crossed we can find Amber and drag her into court as well since her name is on everything. I am sorry Debra sold you a sick dog and you are trying to recoop, We think Jodie did the same thing and we also know that Debra is trying to butter up anyone she can so be careful she will sting.
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#54 REBUTTAL Individual responds

So sorry to hear of your loss Judy.Did your puppy die?

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

Did you hear how Jennifer's breeder friend spoke to poor Andrew? Go look at that post. What a disgrace! Hey! Someone is signing on and using my name after I post and recants my posts. It might be that same breeder friend of Jennifers who attacked Andrew.

I would like to talk to them too about their sick puppies.
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#55 REBUTTAL Owner of company

IF YOU ARE A CUSTOMER OF MINE HOW ABOUT PROOF

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

Never shipped a pup to Texas, Never sold to who ever tbis is and if so WHERE IS THE PROOF!!!!!

Doesn't anyone own a scanner?

would you like 10,000.00? give the proof? vet reports, copy of your money order, or bank cashiers check, do you have any proof? how about your registration for your dog? do you have a shipping record? a health cert? what is my vets name? where is she located? all that is such easy info and should be able to post on ripoffreport.
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