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  • Submitted: Sun, May 27, 2007
  • Updated: Mon, July 13, 2009

  • Reported By:eastpointe Michigan
Wayne County Friend Of The Court
645 Griswold Detroit, Michigan U.S.A.

Wayne County Friend Of The Court CAN'T GET ANYWHERE IN WAYNE COUNTY FOC BEING A MAN Detroit Michigan

*Consumer Suggestion: If you owed.. You owed...

*Consumer Comment: PERSECUTION BY THE WAYNE COUNTY FOC

*Consumer Comment: Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

*Consumer Comment: Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

*Consumer Comment: Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

*Consumer Comment: Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

*Consumer Suggestion: Christine is Correct - File a for a Hearing

*UPDATE Employee: You can get a Court Hearing

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I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A HEARING AT WAYNE COUNTY FRIEND OF THE COURT SINCE 2000. I AM A POLICE OFFICER WITH THE CITY OF DETROIT FOR 20 YEARS. I HAVE SOLELY SUPPORTED MY TWO CHILDERN SINCE THEY WERE BORN. THEY ARE NOW 14 AND 17 YEARS OLD. I CAN'T GET A HEARING AT FOC AT ALL. I RECIVE NOT A DIME OF CHILD SUPPORT AND, CAN'T EVEN GET CUSTODY IN MY NAME. I HAVE A 19 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER BY ANOTHER WOMAN WHO HAD NO PROBLEM GETTING CHILD SUPPORT FROM MY PAYCHECK FROM THE TIME SHE WAS BORN. NOT ONLY WAS IT NOT A PROBLEM FOC DECIDED TO TAKE IT FOR ONE EXTRA YEAR WITH NO JUSTIFICATION. THEY HAVE YET TO ANSWER TO THIS AND I'M SURE NEVER INTEND TO. THIS CHILD SUPPORT STOPPED ONE MONTH AGO AND. LOW AND BEHOLD THIS PAY CHECK INSTEAD OF KEEPING THE 171.00 THAT THEY KEPT FOR 19 YEARS THEY TOOK 240.00.

WHEN I CALLED MY PAYROLL THEY SAID THERE WERE TWO MORE NEW ORDERS FILLED BY FOC TO GARNISH MY WAGES ONLY THERE NOT FOR MY 19 YEAR OLD. THEY ARE FOR MY 14 AND 17 YEAR OLD TO PAY BACK WELFARE. I FOUND OUT THE MOTHER WAS CLAIMING WELFARE FOR MY CHILDERN IN 1999 AND HAD HER FUNDS CUT OFF FOR WELFARE FRAUD. THEY DID NOT PROSECUTE THE MOTHER AND, NOW THERE IN MY PAYCHECK ONCE AGAIN BUT, THIS TIME I'M PAYING BACK MONEY THAT THE MOTHER STOLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT. THE FOC IS A JOKE THEY DO NOTHING FOR A FATHER RAISING THEIR KIDS BUT, IF IT IS A MOTHER THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING WHAT THEY WANT. I'M FED UP WITH THIS EXTORTION AND, I WANT ANSWERS. THE CITY ALREADY PAYS ME A LOWSY PAYCHECK AND, NOW THEIR COURT SYSTEMS WANT TO STEAL THE LITTLE BIT I DO HAVE. PRETTY SOON I WON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO FEED MY CHILDERN. I BET IF I DID THAT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM MAKING AN EXAMPLE OUT OF ME AND, CHARGING ME WITH CHILD ABUSE. IF ANYONE ELSE IS HAVING THIS PROBLEM I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU INCLUDING ATTORNEY'S THAT ARE LOOKING FOR A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT.

Darryl
eastpointe, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

If you owed.. You owed...

AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)

If you owe.. Friend of the Court will take from any source of income you have coming..

If you only want them to take from one source, you need to file a motion.
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#2 Consumer Comment

PERSECUTION BY THE WAYNE COUNTY FOC

AUTHOR: DapLong - (U.S.A.)

In response to David the policeman and his persecution by the Wayne County FOC. This court is anti-family orientated, which mean that any man or father is a family member and any member of the family structure is being perdecuted, the whole family is affected and a complete violation of their civil rights by
Re: Public Law Number 104-193
110 STAT .2105
42 USC 659a
MCL 552.1101 - 552.1901

GENDER BASED DISCRIMINATION
i FURTHER CONTEND THAT THE PATERNITY ACT provision constituted impermissible gender based discrimination in violationof the Equal Protection Clauses of Michigan
until a class action suite is brought the FOC will continue to persecute the family structure.
The last time I received a income tax refund was 1985. Since then the FOC has taken any kind of refund and my arrearage haven' reduced one dollar, to add insult to injury I have a monthly allotment taken from my social security checks , but that's not good enough that has went as far as taking my stimulus refund check to boot. And I wonder if I'm just one of many, how many?,, the people would be surprised how many STIMULUS REFUND CHECK WENT THE THE fRIEND OF THE cOURT.
Michigan has this big hoop la about poverty and the FOC is the main culprit for getting in the poverty category. Or in other words, Michigan and other states are one of the main reason for POVERTY IN AMERICA. The many studies of poverty will bear this to be true, But a study won't solve the problem, President Obama will have to become aware of this travesty perpertrated by the states institution. They use words like "Deadbeat Dads" and for the Children which is only code words for political gains, by dirty dealing politicians to fool the People.

THE POVERTY IN AMERICA IS STATE SPONSORED POVERTY. THESE FRIEND OF THE COURTS HAS NEVER HAD TO OPEN THEIR BOOKS TO BE AUDITED,,, They follow closely behind Madoff when it comes to RIPPING OFF AMERICAN FAMILIES
And like David I have applied for a day in court since my case was closed in 2005, they called me into courts to continue taking my money, bunk on the Court Order for Closure.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

AUTHOR: Eagle - (U.S.A.)

As I posted in another bulletin, apparently not only did the Wayne County Friend of the Court rip my daughter and myself off with the money that the IRS took from my daughter's father, they did not credit his account and only claimed a third of what they actually received.

Here, after numerous phone calls to WCFOC, and racking up my phone bill because they are too cheap to provide a 1-800 number which most FOC offices do, they lead myself to believe that my ex just wasn't sending his support when in fact, and within a few days my ex is sending me a copy of the letter IRS sent him stating they took $2,072 from his Federal refund for money owed on my daughter's case. Yet, WCFOC is stating as of this past Friday that there was only $576 paid on it and that it went to the State of Michigan for the 2 months I was on assistance. To boot, his last pay check stub stated, Year-to date for 2008 that $748 has been taken from his paychecks yet WCFOC says they haven't received a dime of support since August of 2007 except for the $576 they say was paid to the state on Feb 27, 2008 from his refund. So, as it stands, if he did actually have that taken out and although it still leaves him $800 or so in arreages because IRS didn't take enough, they are scheduling a SHOW CAUSE hearing for not paying.

SO, not only did they rip my daughter and me off for the money, they are basically ripping my ex off. Not to mention, because their records are all screwed up this lack of showing payment has not only caused major fights between me and my ex(partly being because he had a history of not paying for 9 or 10 years but finally started paying for 4 or 5 years and then this happens), it has caused upset between my ex and our daughter because since I am only receiving a very low amountof Social Security Disabilty for myself to support me and my two children on, she knows every dime I scrap together is going all out on bills(which is sad that I can't even afford to treat my two children to a sandwhich off the dollar menu at McDonald's) and because all my money goes out on bills I can't even afford for her to play any sports, get her hair cut when needed, pay for sealant to be put on her teeth to prevent cavities,(hell I'm lucky to be able to afford personal items that a female HAS to have each month) and therefor she gets upset with her dad for not paying to help support her according to WCFOC.

When this is all straightened out and when and IF they get their accounting right and we get our money and he gets the well desreved credit for payig his support, I will be writing the WCFOC and telling them THANKS FOR ALL THE UPSET AND ARGURMENTS your screwed up bookkeeping has caused between not only myself and my ex but my daughter and her father. THAT last statement is more upsetting to me the the whole not getting the money is.

I have already contacted our Governor's Office by email and in less than a week someone from her office called me at home to get some things straight about WCFOC but now that I find this out and if they can't account for where the other money went, I won't hesitate to do it again. I don't mind going without the little extra's for myself but why should my daughter have to go without basic needs because they are screwed up down there. So I guess my solution to your problem is, if you don't get anywhere with the WCFOC contact the Governor's Office. Let her help us evryday citizens for once instead of the WEALTH.

Good Luck to you and might I say, I commend you for standing up and not only supporting your children but raising them.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

AUTHOR: Eagle - (U.S.A.)

As I posted in another bulletin, apparently not only did the Wayne County Friend of the Court rip my daughter and myself off with the money that the IRS took from my daughter's father, they did not credit his account and only claimed a third of what they actually received.

Here, after numerous phone calls to WCFOC, and racking up my phone bill because they are too cheap to provide a 1-800 number which most FOC offices do, they lead myself to believe that my ex just wasn't sending his support when in fact, and within a few days my ex is sending me a copy of the letter IRS sent him stating they took $2,072 from his Federal refund for money owed on my daughter's case. Yet, WCFOC is stating as of this past Friday that there was only $576 paid on it and that it went to the State of Michigan for the 2 months I was on assistance. To boot, his last pay check stub stated, Year-to date for 2008 that $748 has been taken from his paychecks yet WCFOC says they haven't received a dime of support since August of 2007 except for the $576 they say was paid to the state on Feb 27, 2008 from his refund. So, as it stands, if he did actually have that taken out and although it still leaves him $800 or so in arreages because IRS didn't take enough, they are scheduling a SHOW CAUSE hearing for not paying.

SO, not only did they rip my daughter and me off for the money, they are basically ripping my ex off. Not to mention, because their records are all screwed up this lack of showing payment has not only caused major fights between me and my ex(partly being because he had a history of not paying for 9 or 10 years but finally started paying for 4 or 5 years and then this happens), it has caused upset between my ex and our daughter because since I am only receiving a very low amountof Social Security Disabilty for myself to support me and my two children on, she knows every dime I scrap together is going all out on bills(which is sad that I can't even afford to treat my two children to a sandwhich off the dollar menu at McDonald's) and because all my money goes out on bills I can't even afford for her to play any sports, get her hair cut when needed, pay for sealant to be put on her teeth to prevent cavities,(hell I'm lucky to be able to afford personal items that a female HAS to have each month) and therefor she gets upset with her dad for not paying to help support her according to WCFOC.

When this is all straightened out and when and IF they get their accounting right and we get our money and he gets the well desreved credit for payig his support, I will be writing the WCFOC and telling them THANKS FOR ALL THE UPSET AND ARGURMENTS your screwed up bookkeeping has caused between not only myself and my ex but my daughter and her father. THAT last statement is more upsetting to me the the whole not getting the money is.

I have already contacted our Governor's Office by email and in less than a week someone from her office called me at home to get some things straight about WCFOC but now that I find this out and if they can't account for where the other money went, I won't hesitate to do it again. I don't mind going without the little extra's for myself but why should my daughter have to go without basic needs because they are screwed up down there. So I guess my solution to your problem is, if you don't get anywhere with the WCFOC contact the Governor's Office. Let her help us evryday citizens for once instead of the WEALTH.

Good Luck to you and might I say, I commend you for standing up and not only supporting your children but raising them.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

AUTHOR: Eagle - (U.S.A.)

As I posted in another bulletin, apparently not only did the Wayne County Friend of the Court rip my daughter and myself off with the money that the IRS took from my daughter's father, they did not credit his account and only claimed a third of what they actually received.

Here, after numerous phone calls to WCFOC, and racking up my phone bill because they are too cheap to provide a 1-800 number which most FOC offices do, they lead myself to believe that my ex just wasn't sending his support when in fact, and within a few days my ex is sending me a copy of the letter IRS sent him stating they took $2,072 from his Federal refund for money owed on my daughter's case. Yet, WCFOC is stating as of this past Friday that there was only $576 paid on it and that it went to the State of Michigan for the 2 months I was on assistance. To boot, his last pay check stub stated, Year-to date for 2008 that $748 has been taken from his paychecks yet WCFOC says they haven't received a dime of support since August of 2007 except for the $576 they say was paid to the state on Feb 27, 2008 from his refund. So, as it stands, if he did actually have that taken out and although it still leaves him $800 or so in arreages because IRS didn't take enough, they are scheduling a SHOW CAUSE hearing for not paying.

SO, not only did they rip my daughter and me off for the money, they are basically ripping my ex off. Not to mention, because their records are all screwed up this lack of showing payment has not only caused major fights between me and my ex(partly being because he had a history of not paying for 9 or 10 years but finally started paying for 4 or 5 years and then this happens), it has caused upset between my ex and our daughter because since I am only receiving a very low amountof Social Security Disabilty for myself to support me and my two children on, she knows every dime I scrap together is going all out on bills(which is sad that I can't even afford to treat my two children to a sandwhich off the dollar menu at McDonald's) and because all my money goes out on bills I can't even afford for her to play any sports, get her hair cut when needed, pay for sealant to be put on her teeth to prevent cavities,(hell I'm lucky to be able to afford personal items that a female HAS to have each month) and therefor she gets upset with her dad for not paying to help support her according to WCFOC.

When this is all straightened out and when and IF they get their accounting right and we get our money and he gets the well desreved credit for payig his support, I will be writing the WCFOC and telling them THANKS FOR ALL THE UPSET AND ARGURMENTS your screwed up bookkeeping has caused between not only myself and my ex but my daughter and her father. THAT last statement is more upsetting to me the the whole not getting the money is.

I have already contacted our Governor's Office by email and in less than a week someone from her office called me at home to get some things straight about WCFOC but now that I find this out and if they can't account for where the other money went, I won't hesitate to do it again. I don't mind going without the little extra's for myself but why should my daughter have to go without basic needs because they are screwed up down there. So I guess my solution to your problem is, if you don't get anywhere with the WCFOC contact the Governor's Office. Let her help us evryday citizens for once instead of the WEALTH.

Good Luck to you and might I say, I commend you for standing up and not only supporting your children but raising them.
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Wayne County doesn't just rip off men, they rip off women AND most of all the children!

AUTHOR: Eagle - (U.S.A.)

As I posted in another bulletin, apparently not only did the Wayne County Friend of the Court rip my daughter and myself off with the money that the IRS took from my daughter's father, they did not credit his account and only claimed a third of what they actually received.

Here, after numerous phone calls to WCFOC, and racking up my phone bill because they are too cheap to provide a 1-800 number which most FOC offices do, they lead myself to believe that my ex just wasn't sending his support when in fact, and within a few days my ex is sending me a copy of the letter IRS sent him stating they took $2,072 from his Federal refund for money owed on my daughter's case. Yet, WCFOC is stating as of this past Friday that there was only $576 paid on it and that it went to the State of Michigan for the 2 months I was on assistance. To boot, his last pay check stub stated, Year-to date for 2008 that $748 has been taken from his paychecks yet WCFOC says they haven't received a dime of support since August of 2007 except for the $576 they say was paid to the state on Feb 27, 2008 from his refund. So, as it stands, if he did actually have that taken out and although it still leaves him $800 or so in arreages because IRS didn't take enough, they are scheduling a SHOW CAUSE hearing for not paying.

SO, not only did they rip my daughter and me off for the money, they are basically ripping my ex off. Not to mention, because their records are all screwed up this lack of showing payment has not only caused major fights between me and my ex(partly being because he had a history of not paying for 9 or 10 years but finally started paying for 4 or 5 years and then this happens), it has caused upset between my ex and our daughter because since I am only receiving a very low amountof Social Security Disabilty for myself to support me and my two children on, she knows every dime I scrap together is going all out on bills(which is sad that I can't even afford to treat my two children to a sandwhich off the dollar menu at McDonald's) and because all my money goes out on bills I can't even afford for her to play any sports, get her hair cut when needed, pay for sealant to be put on her teeth to prevent cavities,(hell I'm lucky to be able to afford personal items that a female HAS to have each month) and therefor she gets upset with her dad for not paying to help support her according to WCFOC.

When this is all straightened out and when and IF they get their accounting right and we get our money and he gets the well desreved credit for payig his support, I will be writing the WCFOC and telling them THANKS FOR ALL THE UPSET AND ARGURMENTS your screwed up bookkeeping has caused between not only myself and my ex but my daughter and her father. THAT last statement is more upsetting to me the the whole not getting the money is.

I have already contacted our Governor's Office by email and in less than a week someone from her office called me at home to get some things straight about WCFOC but now that I find this out and if they can't account for where the other money went, I won't hesitate to do it again. I don't mind going without the little extra's for myself but why should my daughter have to go without basic needs because they are screwed up down there. So I guess my solution to your problem is, if you don't get anywhere with the WCFOC contact the Governor's Office. Let her help us evryday citizens for once instead of the WEALTH.

Good Luck to you and might I say, I commend you for standing up and not only supporting your children but raising them.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Christine is Correct - File a for a Hearing

AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)

You state that you support the children since birth, does that mean that you've had physical custody of the children since birth. Do you have a court order stating that you have custody? If not, then your first step is to file for custody. I take it u have a FOC case, as $ is being deducted. With this, you can file for custody...Custody matters are heard before a Judge, you can use the In ProPer Motion - Motion for Change of Custody. Yes, you have to file the motions at the County Clerk Office in Coleman A. Young Municipal Center.

In this same motion, if you are awarded custody, you can also ask that the FOC investigate to determine how much support the other parent should pay to you. If the State agreed that the other parent committed welfare fraud, get documentation and include in you motion. You can then ask the Judge to do something about the arrears the FOC states you owed back to the State. Just because the State said " yeah they committed fraud, that doesn't affect FOC at all. Any changes FOC does to an account is done through a court order..Just telling FOC about something, doesn't change your account. You need a court order.

As far as the 19year old, state law says that support can continue after the age of 18, if the child is still enrolled in high school full-time, but support cannot go beyond 19 1/2 years. If support went past 18, then the FOC received documentation from the high school stating that the child was still enrolled in high school. Really nothing you can do, as this provision is part of your originial court order. If you find that the child is not in high school, you can file a Motion for a Hearing Before a Referee, provide documentation stating that the child is not longer attend school, and ask that support be stopped.

Hope this info helps....If you other questions let me know..
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You can get a Court Hearing

AUTHOR: Christine - (U.S.A.)

You are entitled to a court hearing. The FOC cannot deny you one, as they are not in charge of that. You can file a petition Pro Per (meaning -on your own) any time you want. You may have to do so thru your County Clerks office. In most counties you cannot turn those in at the FOC office, only at your Courthouse. You can also have an attorney file a petition on your behalf.
The FOC is an enforcement agency. They are enforcing your Court Order that was handed down by your Judge. In order to have that changed, you must petition and go to court. FOC cannot change the amount that the State says you owe for the time your family was on State Aid, only a Judge can do that.
So, contact your County Clerks office. They will allow you to file a petition.
Good Luck.
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