• Report: #102222

Complaint Review: Wayne County Friend Of The Court

  • Submitted: Thu, August 05, 2004
  • Updated: Wed, September 15, 2004

  • Reported By:Ferndale Michigan
Wayne County Friend Of The Court
Griswald Nationwide U.S.A.

Wayne County Friend Of The Court ripoff ordered child support to be paid by custodial parent Detroit Michigan

*Consumer Comment: It's not the Court's responsibility.

*Consumer Comment: Something to Think About

*Consumer Comment: One last time....

*Consumer Suggestion: LOOSER! WANT TO STEAL DADDYS MONEY TO HELP RAISE YOUR 17YR OLD?

*Consumer Comment: Welcome to a mans life in court

*Consumer Comment: I wonder why you're having trouble.....

*Author of original report: did go to court and won full custody of my son

*Author of original report: Oh there he is again.....

*Author of original report: In response......

*Consumer Suggestion: Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

*Consumer Suggestion: Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

*Consumer Suggestion: Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

*Consumer Suggestion: Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

*Consumer Suggestion: Many men in your boat

*Consumer Suggestion: Many men in your boat

*Consumer Suggestion: Many men in your boat

*Consumer Suggestion: Many men in your boat

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My 17 yo. son came to live with me on a permanent basis last october due to his father being abusive. I had contacted Protective Services several times and also the FOC but of course nothing was done. I then was ordered to pay my ex over 800.00 a month in child support when i had full custody of my son.

My take home pay was only 1400.00 which didn't leave much to live on for me and my son. We lost our apartment and I had to file bankruptcy and ended up moving in with a friend. I go this morning back down the corrupt court to see if i can get some child support out of my tight wad ex husband. I'll only be able to do this if the referee orders it. I've been in front of this referee before and she definately needs to find a different career. She is rude, mean and unproffesinal. Wish me luck because I'm gonna need it.

LC
Ferndale, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

It's not the Court's responsibility.

AUTHOR: Carl - (U.S.A.)

It is not the Court's responsibility to help you unless you bring a properly drafted motion showing the evidence that would support a change in the support. Due process requires you to follow proper procedures, which includes setting up a hearing and give your ex notice and the opportunity to be heard.

When you divorce, the Court will enter and order of dissolution. If circumstances change that warrant modification of the order (such as you lost your job), it's up to you to bring this to the attention of the judge in the proper format. The Court's order governs here, not your phone calls and it is up to you to get the order changed.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Something to Think About

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

This will be my last post as well.. as I don't think this was the reason this website was created...

Leah- Think about it for minute... You say that that you nor your attorney could believe the incompetence of the FOC and that they couldn't follow a simple order.. In the other post, you stated that the order was prepared wrong.. In this one you say that the FOC couldn't follow the order. Which is it? Also, if the order was prepared wrong and you had an attorney, that attorney should have corrected the order.. You should not have had to hire another attorney.

The FOC can't be that incompeted since the do collect hundred of thousands of dollors if not a million, each year.. They have to be a little somthing going on to do that...

I hope everyone finds answers to their issues?
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#3 Consumer Comment

One last time....

AUTHOR: Leah - (U.S.A.)

First I'll reply to Sean.....Yes I went down there and tried to explain my situation but no one seemed to be able to give me a answer or help. NO i didn't scream and call people names i usually vent to my friends or on this web site which i have definately learned to regret. I finally hired an attorney to take care of the whole mess and she was just as frustrated as I was.

She could not believe the incompetence of following through on a simple order. There was no arreages except the one that had accured for my ex since the order was retro to Jan. As to the others who make judgements before they know the facts...I have always shared in the support of my children. They lived with me half the time and I received no support. It was worth it to me than to half to deal with the Foc for a modificaton.

My ex is bitter and when I met him was 36,000.00 in arrears for his two sons who have gave up his rights to so the support would end. He has used my children as pawns to get back at me for leaving him. This will be my last post. Sean, you have no business commenting on a issue that you are only a spectator of. Get a life!
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

LOOSER! WANT TO STEAL DADDYS MONEY TO HELP RAISE YOUR 17YR OLD?

AUTHOR: CHARLES - (U.S.A.)

YOUR COMPLAINING THAT YOU WERE PAYING CHILD SUPPORT? AND NOW YOU WANT TO STEAL DADDYS MONEY TO HELP RAISE YOUR 17YR OLD? WHY DONT YOU JUST SEND HIM OUT TO GO FIND A JOB, AFTER ALL HE IS OLD ENOUGH, ISN'T HE? AND IF THE CONCEPT OF FINDING A JOB TROUBLES YOU, THEN WHY DON'T YOU SEND HIM BACK TO HIS FATHER? AFTER ALL, HE WILL BE AN ADULT IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, AND THEN YOU WILL BE STUCK HAVING TO SUPPORT HIM FOR "EVER", UNLESS YOU SEND HIM OUT TO FIND A JOB. OR MAYBE, HE'LL DECIDE TO LEAVE MOMMY, AFTER HE DISCOVERS THE SAME THING THAT DADDY DISCOVERED, "THAT YOU ARE A LOOSER, INCAPABLE OF SUPPORTING YOURSELF." LADY, START BY GETTING OFF YOUR LAZY-a*s AND FINDING A GOOD PAYING JOB, THEN GET A LIFE! ALL WOMEN WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN SHOULD GIVE THEIR CHILDREN TO THEIR FATHERS AND THE MOTHER SHOULD PAY CHILD SUPPORT.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Welcome to a mans life in court

AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)

Wow, I've never heard such whining and woo woo'ing. For the first time in history a woman loses a battle in FOC and OH MY GOSH, better shut down the world. If every father that got screwed in court posted a rebuttal on this site in response to your plight. The host would lock up indefinetly due to too much traffic.

Let us all remember this, Leah must be a pretty screwed up chick, to have lost a battle in the one place where all women have first dib's, FOC! Also, your son is 17 years old! How long did your ex take care of his child before YOU got custody? Hmmm, and how much child support did YOU pay while he fed and clothed your son.

So let me get this right, you recently dropped the needle and got off of the loud mouth soup, and you think the whole world should drop everything they are doing and sing praises to you, really, you should just shut the old pie hole and finish raising the kid his LAST year. I personally have no children because of women like you. You expect the system to be unfairly biased towards you just because your a woman. And most of the time it is. It's nice that men DO win one every now and then. SAH.....LUTE!!!
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#6 Consumer Comment

I wonder why you're having trouble.....

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

Leah-

No I don't work for FOC, but I have several friends done there.. With your court order from January, did it stop your support due to custody change retro back, or did the change go in effect January. When your order is finally processed, would it leave you with any money still owed to the father, or did it go retro enough to wipe out any support you owed him.

If the later is true, did you by any chance take your court order with you on thursday and being on the 2nd floor did you check to see if the FOC had your order? Did you talk to someone and explain that your order is from Jan and $ is still being taken? Did you ask could they stop the $ coming from your check, until the full order is processed.

Orrrrrrrr.... Did you got in there acting like an idiot.. Calling people morons and such.. Which by your attitude, I believe you probably did..

I don't understand people.. Believe it or not, teh people down at the FOC, know that it takes a while for somethings to get done.. And believe it or not some do care... If you act like you have some sense.

I suggest...

Go down, call or email the FOC and ask if they have your January order. If so, ask them how soon the order will be processed, as $ is still coming out of your check since January. IF not, ask can you fax the order...

A little kindness gos a long way.. Remember they have something you want... And please don't go into the " well that's there job", which it is... But rememember their job is getting done.. as you did get your ex to court to pay support... IF they let things go their normal pace, thats doing their job.. You want someone to give your situation a little TLC...
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#7 Author of original report

did go to court and won full custody of my son

AUTHOR: Leah - (U.S.A.)

I did go to court and won full custody of my son in April. It is now August and the moron's down at the FOC are still taking support out of my check instead of sending me the 270.00 my ex was ordered to pay. I'm financially ruined and I'm sure they won't do a d**n thing to help me get back on my feet again. They won't even take responsibilty for what they did wrong. Is there a way to sue these idiots? If there is I'll be the first to file suit.
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#8 Author of original report

Oh there he is again.....

AUTHOR: Leah - (U.S.A.)

Boy Sean you just can't help but stick up for the FOC. Bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you had to deal with them.
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In response......

AUTHOR: Leah - (U.S.A.)

First of all I am a woman not a man so no, it's not always the men that get screwed. My ex had alot more money than I did and he hired high priced attorneys to make me look unfit. I still have joint legal and physical custody of my youngest son.

My response to Sean, who I believe works for the FOC, by his comments....yes i did obtain full custody of my oldest son which by the way cost me over 1500.00. I won custody of him in Jan. of this year and the FOC is still taking child support out of my check. My ex was ordered to pay child support last thursday but I'm sure it will take weeks for that to go into affect.

When I was down there on Thursday I was asked to fax a letter stating that my child is still in school full time. Went to the second floor to get the number and the lady sitting behind the bars told me to mail it since most of they're fax machines are broke. I wasn't surprised.

So Sean.....get you employers act together and stay out of peoples lives. I never asked them to enter mine and I can't wait for the day my youngest turns 18 and I don't have to deal with you people anymore!
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

When your child came to live with you.. Did you go file for custody? Or was FOC just suppose to say .."ok... how much do you want.." and poof.. Start sending you money... IT took a court order to get you to start paying support, why wouldn't you think that you have to get another court order to have the other parent pay you support. Yes, the court has to investigate each income and come up with what the law says you should receive as support. Why does everyone forget thet FOC is still a court, and all courts speak through their court orders.. I suggest you go file your motion for custody and support and let the FOC investigate.. The sooner you file, the sooner you will get support. Better yet.. You can file a motion to get FOC out the picture all together.. since it doesn't appear that you think they're doing their job...
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

When your child came to live with you.. Did you go file for custody? Or was FOC just suppose to say .."ok... how much do you want.." and poof.. Start sending you money... IT took a court order to get you to start paying support, why wouldn't you think that you have to get another court order to have the other parent pay you support. Yes, the court has to investigate each income and come up with what the law says you should receive as support. Why does everyone forget thet FOC is still a court, and all courts speak through their court orders.. I suggest you go file your motion for custody and support and let the FOC investigate.. The sooner you file, the sooner you will get support. Better yet.. You can file a motion to get FOC out the picture all together.. since it doesn't appear that you think they're doing their job...
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

When your child came to live with you.. Did you go file for custody? Or was FOC just suppose to say .."ok... how much do you want.." and poof.. Start sending you money... IT took a court order to get you to start paying support, why wouldn't you think that you have to get another court order to have the other parent pay you support. Yes, the court has to investigate each income and come up with what the law says you should receive as support. Why does everyone forget thet FOC is still a court, and all courts speak through their court orders.. I suggest you go file your motion for custody and support and let the FOC investigate.. The sooner you file, the sooner you will get support. Better yet.. You can file a motion to get FOC out the picture all together.. since it doesn't appear that you think they're doing their job...
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

Why does everyone think that the FOC is suppose to know what's going on in each couple's lives...

AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)

When your child came to live with you.. Did you go file for custody? Or was FOC just suppose to say .."ok... how much do you want.." and poof.. Start sending you money... IT took a court order to get you to start paying support, why wouldn't you think that you have to get another court order to have the other parent pay you support. Yes, the court has to investigate each income and come up with what the law says you should receive as support. Why does everyone forget thet FOC is still a court, and all courts speak through their court orders.. I suggest you go file your motion for custody and support and let the FOC investigate.. The sooner you file, the sooner you will get support. Better yet.. You can file a motion to get FOC out the picture all together.. since it doesn't appear that you think they're doing their job...
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Many men in your boat

AUTHOR: Support Payor - (U.S.A.)

LC

sorry to hear about your problems. I do think you deserve income to help raise your child his last few years. On the other side of things though, this is what men go through all the time. Now you know the pains or trying to survive on paying that much income to an ex and only having so much income come it. Anoter thing is there are pleanty of people who say they have no income and have pleanty also.

Apparently your ex is one of those people that are worried about money. I am not taking mens sides nor womans, I just have not heard a woman complain like most men on how support is robbing them blind. All I can add there is welcome to the club! It is unfortunate that you have not benefited from being a woman, usually women kind of have an upper hand in support hearings.
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

Many men in your boat

AUTHOR: Support Payor - (U.S.A.)

LC

sorry to hear about your problems. I do think you deserve income to help raise your child his last few years. On the other side of things though, this is what men go through all the time. Now you know the pains or trying to survive on paying that much income to an ex and only having so much income come it. Anoter thing is there are pleanty of people who say they have no income and have pleanty also.

Apparently your ex is one of those people that are worried about money. I am not taking mens sides nor womans, I just have not heard a woman complain like most men on how support is robbing them blind. All I can add there is welcome to the club! It is unfortunate that you have not benefited from being a woman, usually women kind of have an upper hand in support hearings.
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

Many men in your boat

AUTHOR: Support Payor - (U.S.A.)

LC

sorry to hear about your problems. I do think you deserve income to help raise your child his last few years. On the other side of things though, this is what men go through all the time. Now you know the pains or trying to survive on paying that much income to an ex and only having so much income come it. Anoter thing is there are pleanty of people who say they have no income and have pleanty also.

Apparently your ex is one of those people that are worried about money. I am not taking mens sides nor womans, I just have not heard a woman complain like most men on how support is robbing them blind. All I can add there is welcome to the club! It is unfortunate that you have not benefited from being a woman, usually women kind of have an upper hand in support hearings.
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

Many men in your boat

AUTHOR: Support Payor - (U.S.A.)

LC

sorry to hear about your problems. I do think you deserve income to help raise your child his last few years. On the other side of things though, this is what men go through all the time. Now you know the pains or trying to survive on paying that much income to an ex and only having so much income come it. Anoter thing is there are pleanty of people who say they have no income and have pleanty also.

Apparently your ex is one of those people that are worried about money. I am not taking mens sides nor womans, I just have not heard a woman complain like most men on how support is robbing them blind. All I can add there is welcome to the club! It is unfortunate that you have not benefited from being a woman, usually women kind of have an upper hand in support hearings.
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