• Report: #334128

Complaint Review: Web Media Projects / Develop123 / Mike Mann

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  • Submitted: Wed, May 21, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, October 28, 2009

  • Reported By:Park City Utah
Web Media Projects / Develop123 / Mike Mann
440 E Pass Rd. Suite B Gulfport, Mississippi U.S.A.

Web Media Projects / Mike MannWeb Media Projects / Develop123 / Mike Mann Failure to pay for contract work, stolen software Gulfport Mississippi

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Sure, Jeff.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Sure, Jeff.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Michael David Mann,Mike Mann,Michael Mann, scam artist

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Michael David Mann,Mike Mann,Michael Mann, scam artist

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: For once, Jeff, you are correct.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: MICHAEL DAVID MANN is back in prison!

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I am a freelance web developer specializing in Flash, PHP and MySQL. I answered an ad on Craigslist and began doing contract work for Mike Mann of Web Media Projects, aka Develop123.

The first project I worked on was simple script fixes which I finished in a few days. I had been promised payment as soon as I was finished, but received a story about their office being broken into. It ended up taking 3 weeks before I received anything, but I figured everyone is entitled to a little bad luck.

The second project was a bit larger, some Flash work. I did the work, but when the time came for payment I was told that the client had refused to pay the full agreed amount and that I would have to settle for half what I had been promised.

Then I did a series of small jobs and wrote several Flash games (complete with backend scripting) for an online casino. I was told that once the games were complete, the client would make a payment and I would be paid out. Then began a two month series of lies, hard luck stories and broken promises of payment. I was told numerous times "I'll call you back in 20 minutes and get you paid out", and then blown off for days at a time. Finally I told Mike I thought he as a liar. He became very abusive and told me as far as he was concerned I had already been paid for more than I had done. He threatened to "make trouble for me" if I reported any of this. The end result is that I was promised $5000 for work I did and I never saw a dime of it. As a result, I found myself in some dire financial straits and have had to scramble around for small quick projects to cover my past due bills.

Some of the work I did on early projects involved recovering Flash files. Mike told me he had "paid some guy in India" to write the programs and that the guy had refused to give him the source. So he gave me a decompile of the Flash which I was supposed to turn into a valid Flash source which could be modified. I later found the same Flash games on another site and realized he had given me stolen files to "recover".

I've checked out the various reports here and see that his MO is to take initial payments from clients, fail to deliver and keep the money. I see now that the scamming extends to work he contracts out and then fails to pay for. I wish I had checked Rip Off Reports when I first started working for him. Live and learn, I guess.

Here is an email I received when I mentioned filing a Rip Off report:

> f*ck you, *sshole. don't threaten me. you have been more than compensated for hacking a few stolen flash files.

I have me own sh*t to deal with so f*ck you and your g*ddam problems.

Keep your threats to yourself, d*ck, or you WILL have some serious problems.

(profanity *'d out by me)

In any case, if you are a contractor, don't work for this guy. He will lie and cheat you. If you are a client, don't do business with him. He will rip you off.

Patrick (web developer)
Park City, Utah
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/21/2008 07:48 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Web-Media-Projects-Develop123-Mike-Mann/Gulfport-Mississippi-39507/Web-Media-Projects-Mike-MannWeb-Media-Projects-Develop123-Mike-Mann-Failure-to-pay-f-334128. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sure, Jeff.

AUTHOR: C0l0rad0 - (U.S.A.)

Your time is very near, my friend. Your lies and deciet are about to come to an abrupt end.

Keep your eyes open, Jeff.

Your threats are meaningless. You beat women, abuse children, steal from those that help you and hide behind the internet. However, that is all about to come to an end.

And, i will be right there to let you know who did it to you.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Sure, Jeff.

AUTHOR: C0l0rad0 - (U.S.A.)

Your time is very near, my friend. Your lies and deciet are about to come to an abrupt end.

Keep your eyes open, Jeff.

Your threats are meaningless. You beat women, abuse children, steal from those that help you and hide behind the internet. However, that is all about to come to an end.

And, i will be right there to let you know who did it to you.

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Michael David Mann,Mike Mann,Michael Mann, scam artist

AUTHOR: phpl33t - (U.S.A.)

Anyone can google "namepros mike mann scammed me" and see how changed and sweet you are. You appeared to be making ammends and then pulled the old "my wife has cancer and I cannot pay you" bit.

Omission? No, I ignore your idiocy, Mike.

As far as your threats, or as you love to use cliches like a bad gangster movie, "promises"...... you can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

You think you are a big man? Come get me, and meet my little friend once you trespass.

I think it more likely that you are hiding, like the wuss you are. You may have even gotten your poor ass to Texas or Seattle by now to hide.

You control people with fear and beat up the weak. You are a coward. Remember the incident with your family right after Astro Mann broke your nose because you got physical? Remember what all you did? I am decent enough not to make your family business all public, pot head.

I do not need to prove anything to you or the readers here. None of you mean anything to me and a lot of lies sure do not mean anything to me.

As far as your offices being broke into, I was the first cleared from the suspect list since I went to the local Hermitage, TN precinct and showed proof that I have not left this state since I left your shitty situation. Proof being a paycheck from a job I got here, kind of hard to fake since they contacted the business to verify. THey thought it funny that oyu told the Gulfport cops that you saw my car there at the scene, since the car had been broken down with a fried EGR since the second day I got to Tennessee. Nice lie, stupid.

I suggest you move on and get a life, you are only making yourself look more desperate. I do not even freelance anymore, I get enough from Adsense that I do not have to deal with BS liars like you anymore.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Michael David Mann,Mike Mann,Michael Mann, scam artist

AUTHOR: phpl33t - (U.S.A.)

Anyone can google "namepros mike mann scammed me" and see how changed and sweet you are. You appeared to be making ammends and then pulled the old "my wife has cancer and I cannot pay you" bit.

Omission? No ignoring your idiocy, Mike.

As far as your threats, or as you love to use cliches like a bad gangster movie, "promises"...... you can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.

You think you are a big man? Come get me, and meet my little friend once you trespass.

I think it more likely that you are hiding like the wuss you are. You control people with fear and beat up the weak. You are a coward. Remember the incident with your family right after Astro Mann broke your nose because you got physical? Remember what all you did? I am decent enough not to make your family business all public, pot head.

I do not need to prove anything to you or the readers here. None of you mean anything to me and a lot of lies sure do not mean anything to me.

As far as your officers, I was the first cleared from the suspect list since I went to the local Hermitage, TN precinct and showed proof that I have not left this state since I left your shitty situation. Proof being a paycheck from a job I got here, kind of hard to fake since they contacted the business to verify.

I suggest you move on and get a life, you are only making yourself look more desperate. I do not even freelance anymore, I get enough from Adsense that I do not have to deal with BS liars like you anymore.
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

For once, Jeff, you are correct.

AUTHOR: C0l0rad0 - (U.S.A.)

For once, Jeff, you told the truth by ommission.

Yes, I violated a term of my supervised release for smoking pot. Not for anything connected to my business.

So, for once, you told the truth by ommission.

However, as stated before, I am coming after you for FRAUD in email headers, and burglary of our offices and hacking my email account.

Do what you want, Jeff. I am a free man now. No federal incumbrances for a financial crime committed in 1998. No supervised release. Just me, you, and the feds.

I am coming.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

MICHAEL DAVID MANN is back in prison!

AUTHOR: Phpl33t - (U.S.A.)

MICHAEL DAVID MANN is back in prison for paraole violation.

Score one for the good guys!
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