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  • Submitted: Wed, November 02, 2011
  • Updated: Sat, May 17, 2014

  • Reported By: bigragu61 — St Peters Missouri USA
Website Innovations, LLC
4939 W. Ray Road #4315 Chandler, Arizona United States of America

Website Innovations, LLC Five Star Commerce LLC Credit Card Machine SCAM!!! Beware!!!! Legal in Arizona. Taken thousands from elderly and mid aged people. Home based lead business promising thousands. EVER phone number disconnected when called back Chandler, Arizona

*Consumer Comment: Desirae Spry You write this FALSE Statement?

*General Comment: bbb rates them "F"

*General Comment: Website Innovations is the REAL DEAL

*Consumer Comment: My Experience With Website Innovations

*General Comment: Owner Information

*General Comment: Five Star Commerce Owner Information

*General Comment: How Long Has Website Innovations LLC Been In Business

*Consumer Comment: RUPERT MURDOCH IS A LIAR AND A COWARD......

*Consumer Comment: NEWT GINGRICH IS A BIG FAT IDIOT (DUH)...........

*General Comment: BIGRAGU61 IS A BIG FAT LIER!!!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Bigragu61 Posted false reports against Website Innovations

*Consumer Comment: bigragu61: What is the current status?

*Consumer Suggestion: WEBSITE INNOVATIONS #1 TRUSTED COMPANY

*Author of original report: Better Business Bureau & other proof

*UPDATE Employee: WRONG COMPANY (HOW IS FALSE INFORMATION EVEN ALLOWED ON SITES LIKE THIS?)

*General Comment: WRONG COMPANY

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I've thoroughly researched and investigated this 'so called' company. They have changed their name, phone numbers, etc. However, the physical address is always the same. They have taken over $6,000 from my elderly father before I stepped in intercepting and reporting fraudulent activity on his credit card. The 'sales' person calls, sugar coating and guarantee's that you can receive 70% of each machine sold by giving them names of businesses in your area as leads in order to sell them credit card swiping machines. He'll then carry on stating he's the deacon of his church, has run a lucrative business for over 40 yrs., having retired by joining this lead scheme. Thankfully, I've reported this to my father's credit cards company and they've now turned it over to their fraud department. However, once they get a hold of your card or checking acct. number they will then change their name, cancel current phone numbers and re-enter your information, hence charging and calling you again and again. [continued below]....
..... Also, while searching their physical address, Google map shows it as a Subway Sandwich Store!

Be warned they will also use common names, i.e. Robert Martin, George Swan, Debbie Lewis. Do NOT be tricked or fooled as these people are slick tongued, well read, and highly trained in swaying people into agreeing with their scam. Never sign anything out of the Arizona that you do not know is legal (seek your attorney's advice). I've learned that Arizona is one of handful of states that this is actually legal in. They will also fax you what looks like legal documentation, asking it be faxed back, as well as a Terms of Use Policy (including the clause if they are reported you terminate your agreement resulting in immediate suspension without refund) and W-9 Request for Taxpayer Identification Number Form. PLEASE report any actions by this company and or their calls and mostly NEVER give them any form of financial account information whatsoever. I am a paralegal and have also verified this with the BBB of Arizona.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/02/2011 03:54 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Website-Innovations-LLC/Chandler-Arizona-85226/Website-Innovations-LLC-Five-Star-Commerce-LLC-Credit-Card-Machine-SCAM-Beware-Leg-794520. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Desirae Spry You write this FALSE Statement?

AUTHOR: ExposingTheScam - ()

Go HERE to here the REAL STORY about Website Innovations LLC

www.ripoffreport.com/r/Website-Innovations-LLC/Tempe-Arizona/Website-Innovations-LLC-Jaosn-Manger-OwnerDesirae-Spry-AKA-Christina-WEBMALL-SCAM-1073379

 

 

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#2 General Comment

bbb rates them "F"

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

I checked with the BBB and they rate them an "F". They can claim whatever they want. They are scammers and theives.
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#3 General Comment

Website Innovations is the REAL DEAL

AUTHOR: KB Originals - (United States of America)

When I decided to try Website Innovations for the first time, I simply sent a photo and text.  The Website Innovations group assisted me & now I have an ad that is spectacular! I use the Carousel and Sidebar - both with great success.  I have advertised with Website Innovations many times and always know that when I do, I can expect increased views and most importantly SALES!


Whoever wrote the first letter obviously has the WRONG COMPANY but like I saw from other posts I guess that's what people do try to extort money. Never the less, I wanted people to know that this company changed my life!!!

Thank you so much to my family over at Website Innovations!!!
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#4 Consumer Comment

My Experience With Website Innovations

AUTHOR: Mary''s Online Catering - (United States of America)

This review is my genuine opinion of this business, Website Innovations, and I have no personal or business affiliation with this business. I haven't been offered any incentive or payment originating from the business to write this review. I am representing that it is a truthful account of my experience with the company.


More than 10 years ago, I started Mary's Catering, marking the first time I had ever worked in the restaurant business. Since then, the family-owned business has served thousands of customers in its two locations and catered hundreds of parties, corporate events, and weddings.

Without a web presence, a sizable portion of the busy 13-hour days were consumed by phone calls: customers asking about the menu, hours, or driving directions; catering prospects wanting information about facilities and pricing; and job seekers wanting to fax resumes. Meanwhile, when I found time to do an occasional marketing program, most often newspaper and radio, the results were difficult to measure. Despite the popularity of the restaurant, voted "Best of Catering" by readers, business for the higher-margin catering division was slow.

After hearing about Website Innovations, I purchased a Website + Marketing plan and used their Site Builder Software to create an attractive and robust website that has since become my most important marketing tool. Not only has feedback about the new site been overwhelmingly positive, but the launch of a search marketing program has created a new and cost-effective source of qualified website traffic. Today,  my business is up 30% over just two years ago, a fact I largely attribute to my new website. Best of all, I am spending about half the time on the phonethe icing on the cake, indeed.
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#5 General Comment

Owner Information

AUTHOR: WebSiteInvestigator - (United States of America)

If you do a search at www.azcc.gov on both of these companies, you will find two completely different owners.  However, doing a search on the domain name fivestarcommerce.biz yields this person as the owner.

Registrant Name:                             John Gilreath
Registrant Organization:                  Five Star Commerce, LLC
Registrant Address1:                       6229 W. Berkley Rd.
Registrant City:                                Phoenix
Registrant State/Province:               Arizona
Registrant Postal Code:                   85035
Registrant Country:                          United States
Registrant Country Code:                 US
Registrant Phone Number:               1.8778808075

Furthermore, when doing a background check on this individual, here is the information that we dug up.  Maybe it can be of some use to you in getting down to the bottom of things.

Names & Aliases:
J Gilreath
John Michael Gilreath
John M Gilreath
John Gilreath
Age:33
Date of Birth:06/23/1978
Phone Numbers:
602-334-1787
875-454-9975
989-699-8244
517-646-2126
480-615-5877

Address
9798 BUCKHORN TRL PEORIA, AZ 85383

Previous Cities:

Holt, MI
Phoenix, AZ
Dimondale, MI (Last Seen: 06/1996)
Lansing, MI (Last Seen: 06/1996)
Holt, MI (Last Seen: 11/1998)
Holt, MI (Last Seen: 12/2000)
Tempe, AZ (Last Seen: 03/2001)
Mesa, AZ (Last Seen: 03/2003)
Phoenix, AZ (Last Seen: 07/2005)
Phoenix, AZ (Last Seen: 12/2006)
Peoria, AZ (Last Seen: 09/2008)
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#6 General Comment

Five Star Commerce Owner Information

AUTHOR: WebSiteInvestigator - (United States of America)

If you go to www.azcc.gov (Since both of these companies are in Arizona) and do a Business Entity Search, you will see that the corporation papers on each company are by 2 different people. 

The person that signed the documents that owns Five Star Commerce LLC is GREGORY CUNNINGHAM.  However, further investigation leads to new information.  Upon researching domain name ownership, you will find that the owner of www.fivestarcommerce.biz is John Gilreath.

Maybe John Gilreath is where you ought to start.  Further investigation shows these details on Mr. Gilreath.

Name: John Michael Gilreath
Age: 33
Date of Birth: 06/23/1978
Sex: M
Race: WHITE
Weight: 0
State: AZ 

Phone Numbers:
602-334-1787
875-454-9975
989-699-8244
517-646-2126
480-615-5877

Previous Cities:
Holt, MI
Phoenix, AZ
Dimondale, MI (Last Seen: 06/1996)
Lansing, MI (Last Seen: 06/1996)
Holt, MI (Last Seen: 11/1998)
Holt, MI (Last Seen: 12/2000)
Tempe, AZ (Last Seen: 03/2001)
Mesa, AZ (Last Seen: 03/2003)
Phoenix, AZ (Last Seen: 07/2005)
Phoenix, AZ (Last Seen: 12/2006)
Peoria, AZ (Last Seen: 09/2008)
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#7 General Comment

How Long Has Website Innovations LLC Been In Business

AUTHOR: WebSiteInvestigator - (United States of America)

You claim that your number has not changed since you opened your doors.  I am just curious as to how long Website Innovations LLC has been in Business?
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#8 Consumer Comment

RUPERT MURDOCH IS A LIAR AND A COWARD......

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

can be 'Googled'.

Anyone can 'Google' this- RUPERT MURDOCH IS A LIAR AND A COWARD, and read the related articles on the web.

Thank You

***CRIME FIGHTER ALERT: Feel free to type in 608748 at this site and read Ripoff Report #608748, which was submitted by Katwoman61. Maybe Bigragu61 was born in the same year as Katwoman61, correct?


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#9 Consumer Comment

NEWT GINGRICH IS A BIG FAT IDIOT (DUH)...........

AUTHOR: Karl - (USA)

can be 'Googled'.

Anyone can 'Google' this- NEWT GINGRICH IS A BIG FAT IDIOT (DUH), and read the related articles on the web.

Thank You

*****GREED ALERT: Feel free to type in 646259 at this site and read Michael's Ripoff Report about the big banks and Wall Street.



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#10 General Comment

BIGRAGU61 IS A BIG FAT LIER!!!!

AUTHOR: BIGRAGU61 POST FAKE COMPLAINTS FOR - (USA)

PUT YOU MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS BIG FAT LIER!!!

I've thoroughly researched and investigated Website Innovations and have found them to be the real victims in this so called scam from bigragu61 (user who post the fake complaint's.)

HERE IS THE PROOF:
Website Innovations HAS NOT changed their number it has been the same one they opened their doors with ( Call 1-800-781-4840 for proof and see yourself that it works.) phone is not disconnected or changed!!!
 
PROOF 1
They have NOT taken over $6,000 from bigragu61's elderly father because bigragu61 or her father are not customer's of Website Innovations (bigragu posts fake complaints in attempts to extort money to clear business name that is why she is motivated to post fake complaints because she is a scam.)

PROOF 2
Website Innovations is not in the business or has ever been in the business of selling merchant accounts or processing machines. If you are a client of  Website Innovations look at what you ordered and ask yourself did anybody try to sell you a credit card biz the answer is a big fat NO!!!

PROOF 3
Obviously clients that have come into the office or have conducted business KNOW they are not sending their paperwork to subway shop real clients would know this because we wouldn't receive their mail.... I guess subaway would right?)

PROOF 4
As far as the common names of people that were mentioned , i.e. Robert Martin, George Swan, Debbie Lewis have never been employed by Website Innovations and because we are a real legitimate company we don't  use aliases or fake names that is against the law.

PROOF 5
It is true the only real slick tongued, well read, and highly trained in swaying people into agreeing with their scam is bigragu61. Coming up with the all the lies just to try to extort money from the company Website Innovations llc to clear their name and retract the statement so don't be fooled!

PROOF 6
As far as bigragu61 claiming she is a paralegal and have also verified this with the BBB of Arizona is false. As a matter of fact that is why her report is here and not there. The BBB does verify if you have ordered anything from a company and since her or her fake father story have NOT that is why you are reading it here at rip off report. they don't verify anything you can post post post and it isn't looked into.

Do to other's as you would want done to yourself!!! 2 wrongs don't make a right. Communicate with the company and give them a fair shot to addressing any concerns you might have rather then jumping to conclusions based off of random fake people online.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Bigragu61 Posted false reports against Website Innovations

AUTHOR: BIGRAGU61 POST FAKE COMPLAINTS FOR - (USA)

I've thoroughly researched and investigated Website Innovations and have found them to be the real victims in this so called scam from bigragu61 (user who post the fake complaint's.)

HERE IS THE PROOF:
Website Innovations HAS NOT changed their number it has been the same one they opened their doors with ( Call 1-800-781-4840 for proof and see yourself that it works.) phone is not disconnected or changed!!!
 
PROOF 1
They have NOT taken over $6,000 from bigragu61's elderly father because bigragu61 or her father are not customer's of Website Innovations (bigragu posts fake complaints in attempts to extort money to clear business name that is why she is motivated to post fake complaints because she is a scam.)

PROOF 2
Website Innovations is not in the business or has ever been in the business of selling merchant accounts or processing machines. If you are a client of  Website Innovations look at what you ordered and ask yourself did anybody try to sell you a credit card biz the answer is a big fat NO!!!

PROOF 3
Obviously clients that have come into the office or have conducted business KNOW they are not sending their paperwork to subway shop real clients would know this because we wouldn't receive their mail.... I guess subaway would right?)

PROOF 4
As far as the common names of people that were mentioned , i.e. Robert Martin, George Swan, Debbie Lewis have never been employed by Website Innovations and because we are a real legitimate company we don't  use aliases or fake names that is against the law.

PROOF 5
It is true the only real slick tongued, well read, and highly trained in swaying people into agreeing with their scam is bigragu61. Coming up with the all the lies just to try to extort money from the company Website Innovations llc to clear their name and retract the statement so don't be fooled!

PROOF 6
As far as bigragu61 claiming she is a paralegal and have also verified this with the BBB of Arizona is false. As a matter of fact that is why her report is here and not there. The BBB does verify if you have ordered anything from a company and since her or her fake father story have NOT that is why you are reading it here at rip off report. they don't verify anything you can post post post and it isn't looked into.

Do to other's as you would want done to yourself!!! 2 wrongs don't make a right. Communicate with the company and give them a fair shot to addressing any concerns you might have rather then jumping to conclusions based off of random fake people online.
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#12 Consumer Comment

bigragu61: What is the current status?

AUTHOR: ryanha - (United States of America)

Hi bigragu61,

Thanks for filing this report.  We're in a similar situation.  I'm curious what your credit card company ever did about this, if anything?   Any refunds?

Thanks for an update,
Ryan
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

WEBSITE INNOVATIONS #1 TRUSTED COMPANY

AUTHOR: Website Innovations - (United States of America)

WEBSITE INNOVATIONS IS A TOP TRUSTED COMPANY ONLINE AND IS NOT A SCAM.

Website Innovations is dedicated to helping small businesses everywhere succeed by providing them the knowledge and support needed to effectively market and promote their business. In today's fast moving sales and marketing environment, online marketing could give small businesses an easy, affordable and measurable way to target customers while providing numbers and results that traditional marketing methods can't. Online marketing can attract and drive traffic to your website tapping into a whole new segment of customers that can learn about your business and with enough information could start buying from you. The internet has quickly become the primary tool to deliver information. Your customers go online to find anything and everything they need about your business, and if they can't then they look at competitors who are.

There are many benefits to internet marketing, however the best strategy is to focus on a mix of both online and offline marketing. As a full-service online advertising and marketing agency, Website Innovations guides you through the Internets technology maze. With market research and customization for your niche, we are able to create a custom campaign to direct traffic to your site. Each marketing campaign is custom-designed for you to target your customers. Many companies simply deliver the work to you, Website Innovations works with you. We create unique and individualized marketing campaigns using a variety of marketing approaches. We work with you to determine the most ideal marketingmethods to fit your needs and goals for your business and its presence online.
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#14 Author of original report

Better Business Bureau & other proof

AUTHOR: bigragu61 - (USA)

This report was made with 2 - 3 companies that are involved. Website Innovations uses a marketing company/team...after they've received your payment information they then tell you this is for a home based website business. When they informed my 72 yr old father (who's suffering from leukemia & alzheimer's) that he needed to give them an email address and they'd help him set up a website. He told them, "I don't own a computer." The person kept right on with their "scripted" words and ignored him. My father also said "I do not want to follow through with this because I don't know how to use a computer, even if I had one." Then after checking the credit card statement, low & behold, there it was. They had the audacity to try to call to sell him a higher priced package after that. Since filing this report I have received a PRIVATE email asking me to remove this report. I tried to contact them via phone to no avail. Here's a link to their costs. http://websiteinnovationsllc.com/pricing.html also their terms & conditions http://websiteinnovationsllc.com/policy.html#TC and this advertisement http://www.whoisbusinesslistings.com/Domain-For-Sale/6/4588/Website-Innovations-LLC.html  You tell me if an elderly person with mental problems & learning disabilities would even come close to understanding ANY of this. I called the BBB in that area as well as numerous calls to the company itself, 7 different phone numbers, each time getting a message that says "you have reached a number that is no longer in service, please try your call again." Their physical address is 4939 West Ray Rd. Suite 4315, Chandler, AZ 85226 and when searched (just like the other companies involved) it comes up as a Subway Sandwich shop. I pray folks will do their homework before attempting to become involved with such companies. Like I said in my original report, ALL of these companies work together, are well trained & slicked tongued. I also have more proof which was mailed on black and white if need be.
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#15 UPDATE Employee

WRONG COMPANY (HOW IS FALSE INFORMATION EVEN ALLOWED ON SITES LIKE THIS?)

AUTHOR: website - (United States of America)

I guess a new type of scam these days is black mail, fraud and extortion. It's really sad a company could take a site that is intended to inform consumers and turn it into some opportunity to scam small businesses out of hard earned money. Below is a email from a place that will offer to remove for a fee the fake complaint.

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#16 General Comment

WRONG COMPANY

AUTHOR: website - (United States of America)

I'm very sorry to hear what happened to you or your family. I'm sure the stress is overwhelming but before you posts claims of companies please make sure you really know 100% that you have the right one! Website Innovations is not Five Star Commerce LLC  and is NOT related in anyway what so ever. The address to Website Innovations has NEVER changed or the phone numbers and if you called the very same number you posted you will see that people answer. As proof anybody who reads this please call to see yourselves if there is any doubt.

I'm not here to make you look bad I actually feel bad for what you must be going through but please if you could do the right thing and take back this posting you did because again it is the wrong company
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