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  • Submitted: Mon, October 10, 2005
  • Updated: Fri, March 07, 2008

  • Reported By:north syracuse New York
Werner Enterprises
wernerenterprises.com Omaha, Nebraska U.S.A.

Werner Enterprises destroyed a family Ripoff Omaha Nebraska

*Consumer Comment: We certainly do not need any more impaired drivers out there, especially one driving a 80,000 lb. bullet.

*Consumer Comment: they are out of hazleton

*UPDATE Employee: i worked on that account.

*UPDATE Employee: werner did not force your husband to partner up with her

*Consumer Comment: Werner destroying a family

*UPDATE Employee: Werner is not the cause of your husbands infidelity

*Consumer Suggestion: A response for Chris and his wonderful advise and postings

*Consumer Suggestion: Its not your loss

*Consumer Suggestion: Its not your loss

*Consumer Suggestion: Its not your loss

*Consumer Suggestion: Its not your loss

*Consumer Suggestion: Chris... apology accepted

*Consumer Comment: Is this a joke?

*Consumer Suggestion: KIMMMMMM i Apologize

*Consumer Comment: Chris... you're confused or can't read...

*Consumer Comment: "Lot Lizzards"

*Consumer Suggestion: KIM, You sit behind your desk and do not care about drivers and your comments support that

*Consumer Comment: Can't blame the company for your husbands actions..

*Consumer Suggestion: Kelly:

*Author of original report: thanx Chris

*Consumer Suggestion: I'm a truck driver also

*Consumer Suggestion: Move on with your life. Learn to make better choices. Try to make the most of the time you have left. And, do the best you can for your kids.

*Author of original report: werner didn't help matters

*Consumer Suggestion: Werner Didn't Do It.

*Consumer Suggestion: Werner Didn't Do It.

*Consumer Suggestion: Werner Didn't Do It.

*Consumer Comment: Your husband ripped you off, not his employer!

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my husband is a driving for werner under a dedicated office max account out of hazleton, PA. this company allowed my husband to have runs with another female driver. obviously an affair started. what kind of company would destroy a family like that? ocviously they are not family oriented as they claim. Why allow another woman to run with a married man? I would love to see them both get fired!! this has hurt my 4 kids and me a great deal. these 2 are still running together with the boss knowing that he is having an affair with her!

Kelly
north syracuse, New York
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

We certainly do not need any more impaired drivers out there, especially one driving a 80,000 lb. bullet.

AUTHOR: Nighthawk - (U.S.A.)

Kelly, Thank you

As a CDL Driver with my 4 million mile paper in a frame over my desk, I just wanted to say thank you for reporting the drinking situation. We certainly do not need any more impaired drivers out there, especially one driving a 80,000 lb. bullet.
JFYI, I was a trainer for 8 years. I am very married, and every female student I had knew it. I never allowed myself to get into a situation that required any effort on my part to remain faithful to my wife. (Perhaps I am just an ugly old fart and had no worries to begin with).

But in my years out here, I just want to say , that if a spouse is going to cheat, they will do it anyway. regardless what the company or anyone does. He sounds like a rat to begin with, so cut your losses and try to remember that there are still a few of us out there that regard our vows as sacred..

By the way Chris, I have seen some beautiful ladies driving trucks, and most of them were real down to earth women.

And Lynda, having said that to Chris, I would appreciate it if you wouldn't lump all of us male hands in the fat ugly group either. While I will not win any contest, I keep myself in shape. I know you were responding to his comments, so I am taking it with a grain of salt, OK?

Nighthawk.
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#2 Consumer Comment

they are out of hazleton

AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

They do run out of the office max in Hazleton. All there loads are running together. You are right he is a louse and I have since filed for divorce. ( actually, I should be divorced by the 25 th of this month) He will end up losing this job as he is letting his relationship effect his work ethics with the drinking and the not making delivery's on time. I have gone on with my life and I know that I deserve way better.
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#3 UPDATE Employee

i worked on that account.

AUTHOR: Sandy - (U.S.A.)

i worked on that account for a few years and i know how the loads are planed.
the tralers are loaded with 1 to 3 stores on them and most stores get 2 loads a week so the chance that 2 trucks are going to the same place at the same time is not going to happen. loads can go to the same city that has a lot of stores so drivers can go in the same direction but there is no way to controll when they are loaded, when they are ready and when the driver has usable hours of service. unless they are at the omax dc in hazleton or plan to stop on the road there is no way dispatch is running them together to be together.
since that is a dedcated accout with on time delivery requirments i dont see them stoping on the road to get together and chance being late as late loads will get a driver removed from the account.
any kind of alcohol in the trucks is against werner policy and DOT rules when consumed withen driveing hours.
call safty and they can have him routed into the allentown term to have the truck inspected as well as a random drug test. a lot of upper safty people at hq are retired state police and dont take that kind of call lightly.
since he is a louse you should get rid of him and find a person that will respect you and marrage.

for the recored i am no longer on that account as the person werner hired to run that account is not compantant to run it much less run 2 drivers together.
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#4 UPDATE Employee

werner did not force your husband to partner up with her

AUTHOR: Daniel - (U.S.A.)

werner did not force you husband to partner up with this lady. He is the only one who could mack the decision to run with her in his truck or not. I drive for werner they bdont make us run withother drivers. The choice is that of the driver.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Werner destroying a family

AUTHOR: Sharon - (U.S.A.)

I think that some of you have misunderstood what Kelly was saying. As I understand it, her husband and this woman truck driver were NOT a team--each had their own trucks. However, they both got loaded for the same destination, thus allowing them to run together and subsequently spend a LOT of time with each other.

I have been married for 33 years, and my husband drove over the road for 25 of those 33 years. If I had ever found out that he had an affair, I would have left him in a heartbeat. Kelly, you deserve better. He has probably done this more than once, but you only found out about this one.

I don't think Werner is to blame here--they were only doing their job--(keeping the trucks running and the revenue coming in.) I have worked in the office at a trucking company and they don't purposely run a male and a female driver together unless they are a couple and each drives their own truck.

However, there is the possibility that Kelly's husband and this woman driver requested to be run together. That's another story.

At any rate, I wish her the best of luck, and I hope that she finds someone who deserves her.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

Werner is not the cause of your husbands infidelity

AUTHOR: Wesley - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,
I'd like to introduce myself.
My name is Wes and I have been employed by Werner Enterprises since 1993 both as a driver, trainer and currently dispatcher.
I have over 25 years in the transportation industry, so I may know a thing or 2.

I started my driving career with Munson Transportation in 1979 as a driver and was there until they closed in 1993 and went to work at Werner in 1993 as a driver and trainer before going into dispatch in 2000.

To deal with this issue with a direct and honest reply, it may sound somewhat course, but is in no way demeaning to you or to your plight.

First off, it was the actions of your husband, and not the company who chose to have no respect for his relationship, and who chose to break his vows of the sacrement of marriage.

Secondly, and to the point allow me to ask this...
Even if his dispatcher had intimate knowledge of his infidility, and had chosen to share this information, would you have actually believed a stranger revealing this information?

I would tend to think not, as we all have the most fervent desire to believe in the sanctity of ones vows.

At the same time, I would like to stress the point that in what you have revealed in your post, that you are the unwitting victim in this situation, and in no way would this be you're fault.

I would agree with most on the post that you should engage the services of an attorney, and at the risk of being in bad taste, I would further advise that you have an STD test taken as well as an HIV screen, if you were intimate during this episode, I would tend to think that if he was caught in this adventure, it wasn't the first and only give this advise for your health and for the well being of your children.

With that said, allow me to explain Werner's policy on training opposite sex students.

First and foremost before a trainer can train a person of the opposite sex, he or she must attend a sexual harrassment class.
As harrassment can result in severe monitary loss to any company, there isn't a single place that I am aware of that would tolerate such behaviour, as this would be conter productive to a company's bottom line, and I assure you, no one in their right mind would accept a loss of this nature.

Second, allow me to share another piece of information with you.

Werner Enterprises is a corperation, not a privately held company with stockholders who expect a return on their investment, and is not a monolithic entity, with a sole ruler deciding the fate of the lessers.
Investers aren't in the business of charity, and by saying this I mean that a successful lawsuit by anyone is a loss to them.

When I was in the capicity of a driver/trainer, I was approached to train female students.
I declined to do so, simply because the potential negative issues would override the positive results.

This is not to say I am sexist, by all means I feel that if a person is qualified to perform a job there should be no challange to gender, race, or ever personal beliefs or orientation of the person.

In reading the comments that were posted I found much good, some personally repugnant, but everyone is entitled to an opinion.

In closing, I would not dare to attempt to tell you what to do, only you know what is best for you, I do however desire to convey a few facts, from a point of actual knowledge, not from speculation of the uninformed, or tripe from those who admit they do not have facts but go on speculation, attack of others, without what I suspect, didn't bother to actually read what was said, or those who I suspect have less then honorable intentions.
I have personally found, that in the realm of driver culture, when the question is asked "How much experience do you have" or "Have you ever driven a truck" this in nearly every instance, is asked by someone with very little experience themselves, and is a sign of insecuriy.

With this said, I'll make 1 last disclaimer.
I am not an agent of the company I am enployed by nor do I have any alterior motive for this post, as I am happily married.

The bottom line is that you're husband chose to do what he did, and was not coerced to make the decision that he made, he could have easily said, "no thanks I'm married" or as I have said on more then 1 occasion "no thanks, I respect my relationship, even if you don't"
I as well proudy wear my wedding ring, as I want the world to know that I am happily taken and don't even think about asking.

I do wish you and your children well and that you have a blessed and posperous new year
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

A response for Chris and his wonderful advise and postings

AUTHOR: Lynda - (U.S.A.)

Wow, I was so busy reading about Kelly's troubles I did not bother reading any posts from this Chris person.

What a guy! He has so many positive things to say about others.
>>As for this women don't be so down have you ever seen Female truckers?<<

Yes Chris, I look at one everyday in the mirror, and frankly I really like what I see. All of those years of jogging, working out and eating correctly certainly have paid off.

Have you ever seen most MALE truck drivers?

Fat, beer bellies hanging out from under the t-shirt that is 3 sizes to small. Crack of their asses hanging out. One pant leg in their boot and the other pant leg out over the boot. Chain drive wallets, cowboy hats (couldn't saddle a horse on a bet), greasy hair hid under a filthy dirty baseball cap, or worse yet no hair hid under the same nasty cap.

Bush man beards that start about the adam's apple and work up to the cheekbone, dirty finger nails, cheap 5.00 a gallon cologne to drench themselves in to cover the fact it will be another week before they take a shower. Wear and sleep in the same clothes they have had on for a week.

Don't bother washing their hands before they eat, chew with their mouths open, talk with their mouths full of food, and it is not unusual to see that same food fall out of their mouth while they are talking. Blow their noses in the restaurant while others around them are trying to eat, wipe their hands on the same jeans they have been wiping their hands on for a week solid, no public manners.

I am not singling out anyone CHRIS, but their spelling and grammar leave a lot to be desired as well.
Any woman's dream come true.

So, while you are talking about the women truck drivers, you may want to look in the mirror and at some of your own gender.

>>Just remember what and who he loat, and never let him hurt you again.<<
What is a loat? I tried to look it up in the dictionary and it said "see Chris"

>>Lastly, about the Alcohol, You can Notify Dept. of Transportation and let them know he has a drinking problem and is carrying alcohol in his truck<<
What kind of advise is that? Notify the Department of Transportation? Exactly what department in the Department of Transportation would Kelly notify? Try contacting Werner when she is sure he has illegal substances in his truck. Try calling ahead to a scale he has to cross and notify them he is carrying an illegal substance. They will pull him around back and check things out. As a matter of fact the company I was leased on to for 16 years made a practice of this if they suspected a driver may have an illegal substance.

Before you, with all of your "law" (see below) knowledge starts saying it is illegal, save your breath, it is not. A company has the right to request a truck search when they decide it is needed.

>>As for female drivers, what can I say there has to be a reason they have decided to drive, Maybe cause they have no one at home. (what does that tell you lol) I have seen some pretty drivers (female) but that's because they team with their husbands!<<

Is that what you think? Go to yahoo profiles; tencatz2many, or aol profiles; ten2manycats.

Here is a fact for you: Not all women have to have a ring on their left finger to be happy. Not all women need to have a man in the truck with them to make them pretty. This may come as somewhat of a shock to you, but not all women will settle for any bum comes down the pike and winks at them, you should know that from your own past experiences. Some of us actually are extremely independent and extremely picky when it comes to men and relationships.

I have been an owner/operator since 1980. I needed no man to help me earn my living. I certainly needed no man at home to spend the money I made and still make. The only man I needed at home to handle my funds was the investment broker/banker whom did such a wonderful job for me, I now live the way I choose to live and have the weekend toys I wish to have.

I own a small company that keeps me busy during the week and keeps the funds rolling in so I can keep the lifestyle I choose without dipping into my savings. Funny, I did all of this without being ugly and without a man. Mind blowing isnt it?

>>But don't worry Kim, I put your comments on Class A web site, I'm sure I will find out how many Kim Dispatchers there are out there and what co.<<
>>As I would suspect your a dispatcher, What Company? I was wondering because I will stay far away from them.<<
>>Kim how many miles you got under your belt???? I bet to say not many, Because if you did you would know that there is a lot more to driving a truck than just driving, HOWEVER that's the problem with companies these day's, they put dispatchers in the office that have NO CLUE what driving a truck is all about.<<

That's the problem with companies today? In the late 70's and 80's companies hired people to dispatch that had never seen the inside of a truck. What is wrong with companies today is that they are so desperate to hire drivers, they will hire anything that can pass a physical, drug screen and hold a CDL. The drivers don't even have to have experience. They will just stick them in a truck with a guy that has 2 weeks experience and send them down the road. What is wrong with the companies today is the drivers they scrape out from the bottom of the barrell. Not the people who they put in the dispatchers office. A dispatcher will always be a dispatcher.

I am sure, no I would be willing to bet that you are unemployed far more than you are employed. I bet your DAC report reads like a Steven King novel gone haywire.

Kim presents and represents herself as a very warm and caring person whom sincerely wishes only the best for Kelly and others. When she says she cares about her drivers I honestly believe she is the kind of person that would go the extra mile for a person, driver or not, and not even expect a thank you in return. I also bet Kim is hoping against hope that during the 30 or 40 job career you and your attitude are destine to have, that you never stumble into her company.

How many miles do you REALLY have under your belt? Not what you want to tell others to make it sound like you have actually held a job and worked it for years, but how many do you have? I would guarantee my little pet bobcat has more miles under her collar than you have under your belt.

Your words here have told your story in full.

The ones that sit around talking about how no one knows anything about driving a truck is usually the one who has been out of truck driving school for maybe 1 or 2 years tops and is ashamed to admit it. The same type of person Chris, usally has not been very successful in the trucking industry, but wants to try and talk a good ball game to cover up the short comings. Sound about right Chris? Of course it does.

Telling the truth is a hard thing to do when trying to cover up the short comings, but at the same time it is easy to try and degrade people such as you have done here to cover the same and hope they think that you have some level of intelegence on the subject at hand.

>>LET me tell you the Law, Its against the Law for any company to permit a driver to drive if they have received knowledge that the driver MAY be in violation of DOT 395.1<<

Yes Chris please do tell us all about FMCSA (Federal Motor Carrier Safety Assoication) 395.1.
Oh wait! I better tell you because while you were pulling numbers out of God knows where, while you were trying to tell Kelly about the DOT rules and regulations on drinking you actually quoted the section on hours of duty. Guess you missed that one while you were busy judging and being condescending towards others.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/395.1.htm

The correct FMCSA rules on alcohol can be found at: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.asp?section=382.107#49CFR382.107

You were WAY off with the rule numbers, you could have at least got out one of your FMCSA handbooks from the many companies you have been with and did Kelly the courtesy of looking up the correct rule number, You could have looked it up on the internet, instead of giving her false information.

Everyone has the complete picture of the splendor that is you.

I hope you don't mind Chris, but I did take the liberty of correcting your spelling errors before posting your quotes. . I am also taking the liberty of posting this on Class A as you did for Kim. That e-mail address is kw9020@aol.com correct?

I actually feel very sorry for you. Usually people that are as bitter and condescending as you come across to be typically live a very sad and lonely existence with very few friends if any.

I sincerely hope that you will be able to resolve within yourself what ever conflicts you have that are manifesting in the form of all of this bitterness, anger and hostility. It is not good for you and it is certainly not good for your health, physical or mental

I am sure that if you deal with the issues you have, you will find it much easier to make and keep friends, jobs and perhaps even kick some of the habits that contribute to this self destructive behavior.

I honestly do wish you good luck in that endeavor.
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Its not your loss

AUTHOR: Lynda - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,

I drove for Werner from 1978 to 1980 they did not run team then, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that I can not see any company forcing someone to team up with someone they do not want to be teamed up with.

If I ever walked into a company and they told me OK Lynda you have the job, BUT you have to run team with that guy over there, if I did not want to run with the guy I would have told them no.

Now in all honesty I was never put into that position because I was an owner/operator from 1980 to 2002, but common sense is still just that. You do not have to be with someone you do not want to be with.

When a company has as many trucks as Werner now does, I assure you, they had someone else that could have been put up in that old truck with him, obviously the choice was his and hers.

If he did tell them he did not want to run with her and we will say for the sake of argument he told them so and they told him that he had to run with her or hit the road, he being a married man should have hit the road. There are just as many jobs driving a truck as there are trucks on the road.

It is very apparent that that is what he and she both choose to do, just as they both choose to have an affair, knowing that he was married, that in my book makes her a full blown whore and him not any better.

Warner is a business they do not care who they put behind the wheel of a truck, just as long as they have a CDL, can pass a Physical and a drug test.

It is a noble thought that a company in the year 2005 would care about a driver and his or her family, but those days are long gone along with a lot of other things that once held true in the industry.

Does it hurt what they have done to you? Sure it does. I can only imagine the pain, hurt and anger you must be feeling. Is your hurt pain and anger a one sided thing? Sure it is. People who truly love someone do not display that sort of behavior. If you truly love someone the last thing in this world you would ever do is hurt them, emotionally or physically.

I am sure it seems like it is the end of your world, and it is. It is the end of the world you once knew, but my friend you need to get on your knees and thank God that this came to light before he gave you a nice little STD or worse than that HIV or AIDS.

It is time to cut your losses and move on with your life.

Change your phone number, go out and rent you and your lovely kids a nice little home, get a PO Box so if he needs to contact you he can without knowing where you are living. Get some family therapy for you and your kids. Get a divorce and when you are ready, go out and find someone who is willing to treat you and your children with the love and respect that you deserve. Love and respect. Demand no more and accept no less.

There is a world full of men out there who don't cheat. Men that will love your kids as their own, and will treat you as you deserve to be treated.

Right now I highly suspect that your self-worth is pretty low or you would have already kicked this dude to the alley where he and his whore belong. I also suspect that with the desperation in assigning fault anyplace but on him and his ready made whore has probably effected your children as well.

Don't do it Kelly. Cut and run and start over he is not worthy having and you are way to good for him.

Sure it is going to be hell at first, no one said it would be easy.

But lets say for a minute that what you wish for happens. He dumps the whore, he comes back to you. You will never trust him fully if at all, and with no trust, you have no relationship anyway. The tension will start to work on your kids and the next thing you know, he will be ho hopping again. Maybe next time you wont be so lucky. Maybe next time he will get a nice case of AIDS. Then your kids will be without both parents.

Get on with your new life. Your kids need you now. Family and friends will help you through this and just remember when he and his whore have a falling out, as they most assuredly will, he will be alone with his thoughts of what he lost and can never have back.

Living well and being happy is the best revenge there ever was.

Good luck to you Kelly. Hang in there, stick to your guns and remember tomorrow is a new day that is what you make of it.
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Its not your loss

AUTHOR: Lynda - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,

I drove for Werner from 1978 to 1980 they did not run team then, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that I can not see any company forcing someone to team up with someone they do not want to be teamed up with.

If I ever walked into a company and they told me OK Lynda you have the job, BUT you have to run team with that guy over there, if I did not want to run with the guy I would have told them no.

Now in all honesty I was never put into that position because I was an owner/operator from 1980 to 2002, but common sense is still just that. You do not have to be with someone you do not want to be with.

When a company has as many trucks as Werner now does, I assure you, they had someone else that could have been put up in that old truck with him, obviously the choice was his and hers.

If he did tell them he did not want to run with her and we will say for the sake of argument he told them so and they told him that he had to run with her or hit the road, he being a married man should have hit the road. There are just as many jobs driving a truck as there are trucks on the road.

It is very apparent that that is what he and she both choose to do, just as they both choose to have an affair, knowing that he was married, that in my book makes her a full blown whore and him not any better.

Warner is a business they do not care who they put behind the wheel of a truck, just as long as they have a CDL, can pass a Physical and a drug test.

It is a noble thought that a company in the year 2005 would care about a driver and his or her family, but those days are long gone along with a lot of other things that once held true in the industry.

Does it hurt what they have done to you? Sure it does. I can only imagine the pain, hurt and anger you must be feeling. Is your hurt pain and anger a one sided thing? Sure it is. People who truly love someone do not display that sort of behavior. If you truly love someone the last thing in this world you would ever do is hurt them, emotionally or physically.

I am sure it seems like it is the end of your world, and it is. It is the end of the world you once knew, but my friend you need to get on your knees and thank God that this came to light before he gave you a nice little STD or worse than that HIV or AIDS.

It is time to cut your losses and move on with your life.

Change your phone number, go out and rent you and your lovely kids a nice little home, get a PO Box so if he needs to contact you he can without knowing where you are living. Get some family therapy for you and your kids. Get a divorce and when you are ready, go out and find someone who is willing to treat you and your children with the love and respect that you deserve. Love and respect. Demand no more and accept no less.

There is a world full of men out there who don't cheat. Men that will love your kids as their own, and will treat you as you deserve to be treated.

Right now I highly suspect that your self-worth is pretty low or you would have already kicked this dude to the alley where he and his whore belong. I also suspect that with the desperation in assigning fault anyplace but on him and his ready made whore has probably effected your children as well.

Don't do it Kelly. Cut and run and start over he is not worthy having and you are way to good for him.

Sure it is going to be hell at first, no one said it would be easy.

But lets say for a minute that what you wish for happens. He dumps the whore, he comes back to you. You will never trust him fully if at all, and with no trust, you have no relationship anyway. The tension will start to work on your kids and the next thing you know, he will be ho hopping again. Maybe next time you wont be so lucky. Maybe next time he will get a nice case of AIDS. Then your kids will be without both parents.

Get on with your new life. Your kids need you now. Family and friends will help you through this and just remember when he and his whore have a falling out, as they most assuredly will, he will be alone with his thoughts of what he lost and can never have back.

Living well and being happy is the best revenge there ever was.

Good luck to you Kelly. Hang in there, stick to your guns and remember tomorrow is a new day that is what you make of it.
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Its not your loss

AUTHOR: Lynda - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,

I drove for Werner from 1978 to 1980 they did not run team then, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that I can not see any company forcing someone to team up with someone they do not want to be teamed up with.

If I ever walked into a company and they told me OK Lynda you have the job, BUT you have to run team with that guy over there, if I did not want to run with the guy I would have told them no.

Now in all honesty I was never put into that position because I was an owner/operator from 1980 to 2002, but common sense is still just that. You do not have to be with someone you do not want to be with.

When a company has as many trucks as Werner now does, I assure you, they had someone else that could have been put up in that old truck with him, obviously the choice was his and hers.

If he did tell them he did not want to run with her and we will say for the sake of argument he told them so and they told him that he had to run with her or hit the road, he being a married man should have hit the road. There are just as many jobs driving a truck as there are trucks on the road.

It is very apparent that that is what he and she both choose to do, just as they both choose to have an affair, knowing that he was married, that in my book makes her a full blown whore and him not any better.

Warner is a business they do not care who they put behind the wheel of a truck, just as long as they have a CDL, can pass a Physical and a drug test.

It is a noble thought that a company in the year 2005 would care about a driver and his or her family, but those days are long gone along with a lot of other things that once held true in the industry.

Does it hurt what they have done to you? Sure it does. I can only imagine the pain, hurt and anger you must be feeling. Is your hurt pain and anger a one sided thing? Sure it is. People who truly love someone do not display that sort of behavior. If you truly love someone the last thing in this world you would ever do is hurt them, emotionally or physically.

I am sure it seems like it is the end of your world, and it is. It is the end of the world you once knew, but my friend you need to get on your knees and thank God that this came to light before he gave you a nice little STD or worse than that HIV or AIDS.

It is time to cut your losses and move on with your life.

Change your phone number, go out and rent you and your lovely kids a nice little home, get a PO Box so if he needs to contact you he can without knowing where you are living. Get some family therapy for you and your kids. Get a divorce and when you are ready, go out and find someone who is willing to treat you and your children with the love and respect that you deserve. Love and respect. Demand no more and accept no less.

There is a world full of men out there who don't cheat. Men that will love your kids as their own, and will treat you as you deserve to be treated.

Right now I highly suspect that your self-worth is pretty low or you would have already kicked this dude to the alley where he and his whore belong. I also suspect that with the desperation in assigning fault anyplace but on him and his ready made whore has probably effected your children as well.

Don't do it Kelly. Cut and run and start over he is not worthy having and you are way to good for him.

Sure it is going to be hell at first, no one said it would be easy.

But lets say for a minute that what you wish for happens. He dumps the whore, he comes back to you. You will never trust him fully if at all, and with no trust, you have no relationship anyway. The tension will start to work on your kids and the next thing you know, he will be ho hopping again. Maybe next time you wont be so lucky. Maybe next time he will get a nice case of AIDS. Then your kids will be without both parents.

Get on with your new life. Your kids need you now. Family and friends will help you through this and just remember when he and his whore have a falling out, as they most assuredly will, he will be alone with his thoughts of what he lost and can never have back.

Living well and being happy is the best revenge there ever was.

Good luck to you Kelly. Hang in there, stick to your guns and remember tomorrow is a new day that is what you make of it.
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Its not your loss

AUTHOR: Lynda - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,

I drove for Werner from 1978 to 1980 they did not run team then, but that doesn't matter. What does matter is that I can not see any company forcing someone to team up with someone they do not want to be teamed up with.

If I ever walked into a company and they told me OK Lynda you have the job, BUT you have to run team with that guy over there, if I did not want to run with the guy I would have told them no.

Now in all honesty I was never put into that position because I was an owner/operator from 1980 to 2002, but common sense is still just that. You do not have to be with someone you do not want to be with.

When a company has as many trucks as Werner now does, I assure you, they had someone else that could have been put up in that old truck with him, obviously the choice was his and hers.

If he did tell them he did not want to run with her and we will say for the sake of argument he told them so and they told him that he had to run with her or hit the road, he being a married man should have hit the road. There are just as many jobs driving a truck as there are trucks on the road.

It is very apparent that that is what he and she both choose to do, just as they both choose to have an affair, knowing that he was married, that in my book makes her a full blown whore and him not any better.

Warner is a business they do not care who they put behind the wheel of a truck, just as long as they have a CDL, can pass a Physical and a drug test.

It is a noble thought that a company in the year 2005 would care about a driver and his or her family, but those days are long gone along with a lot of other things that once held true in the industry.

Does it hurt what they have done to you? Sure it does. I can only imagine the pain, hurt and anger you must be feeling. Is your hurt pain and anger a one sided thing? Sure it is. People who truly love someone do not display that sort of behavior. If you truly love someone the last thing in this world you would ever do is hurt them, emotionally or physically.

I am sure it seems like it is the end of your world, and it is. It is the end of the world you once knew, but my friend you need to get on your knees and thank God that this came to light before he gave you a nice little STD or worse than that HIV or AIDS.

It is time to cut your losses and move on with your life.

Change your phone number, go out and rent you and your lovely kids a nice little home, get a PO Box so if he needs to contact you he can without knowing where you are living. Get some family therapy for you and your kids. Get a divorce and when you are ready, go out and find someone who is willing to treat you and your children with the love and respect that you deserve. Love and respect. Demand no more and accept no less.

There is a world full of men out there who don't cheat. Men that will love your kids as their own, and will treat you as you deserve to be treated.

Right now I highly suspect that your self-worth is pretty low or you would have already kicked this dude to the alley where he and his whore belong. I also suspect that with the desperation in assigning fault anyplace but on him and his ready made whore has probably effected your children as well.

Don't do it Kelly. Cut and run and start over he is not worthy having and you are way to good for him.

Sure it is going to be hell at first, no one said it would be easy.

But lets say for a minute that what you wish for happens. He dumps the whore, he comes back to you. You will never trust him fully if at all, and with no trust, you have no relationship anyway. The tension will start to work on your kids and the next thing you know, he will be ho hopping again. Maybe next time you wont be so lucky. Maybe next time he will get a nice case of AIDS. Then your kids will be without both parents.

Get on with your new life. Your kids need you now. Family and friends will help you through this and just remember when he and his whore have a falling out, as they most assuredly will, he will be alone with his thoughts of what he lost and can never have back.

Living well and being happy is the best revenge there ever was.

Good luck to you Kelly. Hang in there, stick to your guns and remember tomorrow is a new day that is what you make of it.
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

Chris... apology accepted

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

Not knowing the details of that dedicated account, when Kelly made her first post, I assumed that her husband and the woman were not teamed together in the same truck, just running to the same destination. As in, from the DC to the same store several runs a night and they were running together and hooking up in a truck stop.

If they are teaming on the same truck it's a little different. As a dispatcher I would not encourage that arrangement, but at the same time I could not discourage it. I would encourage the driver to get his personal business in order, but that would be all that I could do. His personal business is not my business, until it affects his ability to do his job.

I personally do not agree with mixed sex trainer teams or teams at all, even the husband and wife teams. That is too much time together for even the best of relationships. Many times I have had one from the team call me to tell me that they are fighting, and one either left the other at the truck stop or the other one won't get back in the truck.

I don't work for Werner, but they pretty much have the same reputation as any of the large trucking companies. Some love them, some hate them.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Is this a joke?

AUTHOR: Kimberly - (U.S.A.)

I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone can place blame on anyone other than their spouse for adultery. Your husband is a dirtbag- plain and simple. He would have cheated on you no matter where he worked. I realize the truth is hard to accept, but it's the truth nonetheless. Stop carrying on about it, get over it, and move on.

If I owned a company and came across a post like this, I would sue you. You have no basis or right to blame the company in this situation. It's utterly ridiculous.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

KIMMMMMM i Apologize

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

KIM,
OK I withdrawl, and i have read your post again and i Apologize, NOW, Im glad to hear that you care about your drivers, If you really do work for a big compnay you have to know that NOT many dispatchers really care about the drivers.

Also Im sure you know that Werner does not have all that great of a rep anyway, I personally would NEVER drive for them.

KIM, Let me ask you a question, Would you honestly keep teaming up a married man, whose wife has called you concerned about her marriage, with some female driver? I know my dispatchers would not UNLESS one of the parties kept asking for it.

Dont confuse my post to Kelly, Persoanlly I blame the guy for this, But Werner could have not promoted this so much, They know this guy is married and we all get temptations? ( some of us wont act on it thou) Personally i FALL IN LOVE 40 times just going threw the grocery store, That doesnt mean i sleep with them...LOL

I appreciate your safe driving comment, and you too, be becareful out there, and dont feed the bears they bite!!!! Chris
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#15 Consumer Comment

Chris... you're confused or can't read...

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

Chris, darlin, I have scoured my response to see just where I said that drivers just drive. You're reading between the lines or making up things. I have never said that a Driver just drives.

I don't have to have miles over the road to have empathy for a driver. I get invited to my drivers weddings, they call me when their wife has a baby and ask me to come see them, I get invited into their homes for holidays. I don't care what your relationship is with your dispatcher, but my drivers respect me and I respect them. I may work for a large company, but my dispatcher roots are from a small company and that is still my mentality. We are family and we take care of each other.

I'm glad you posted my comments on a "Class A" website. Please post the link so that I know I am being quoted accurately. And when you're looking for Dispatcher Kim.. say Hi to all that you find, that's not the name I go by at work ;)

And Chris... if you really are a truck driver.. be safe out there.
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#16 Consumer Comment

"Lot Lizzards"

AUTHOR: Leticia - (U.S.A.)

Ummm....Excuse me but I thought that "lot lizzards" were the women (non female truck drivers) who combed Truck Stops for a quick buck.

When I was working as a waitress at a truck stop and had to walk across to lot to the office for anything I was often stopped by drivers who thought I was just a "lot lizzard." (I even had one offer me $100 but I value myself more than that.)

Back on topic, your husband made the decision to get involved with the co-worker.
As for the dispatcher always scheduling them together, you do not know if your husband or the female made some sort of deal with the dispatcher to get them always on the same loads. (For some reason I'm picturing money passing between the dispatcher and the female, though.)
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KIM, You sit behind your desk and do not care about drivers and your comments support that

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

As I would suspect your a dispatcher, What Company? I was wondering because i will stay far away from them. As for the comment about female truckers that comment was bascially to make Kelly feel better, But intresting enough you brought up a very good Subject, You say all truck drivers do is drive, Kim how many miles you got under yor belt???? I bet to say not many, Because if you did you would know that there is alot more to driving a truck than just driving, HOWEVER thats the problem with companys these day's, they put dispatchers in the office that have NO CLUE what driving a truck is all about.

You sit behind your desk and do not care about drivers and your comments support that, your whole post is an insult to ALL drivers everywhere. Its dispatchers like yourself that make drivers dis-like dispatchers. BUT you go girl, Like to see you on the road, you wouldnt know the first thing about trucking,logs, laws, Driving in NYC or any of it, I bet 10 to 1 you dont know the first thing about driving except telling drivers where to go and where to stop, what happens in all that in between time?

But dont worry Kim, I put your comments on Class A website, Im sure i will find out how many Kim Dispatchers there are out there and what co.
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#18 Consumer Comment

Can't blame the company for your husbands actions..

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

How can you blame the company for your husbands actions? If he is on a dedciated run, the odds are the woman has runs that go to the same destination. Drivers like to run with someone that they know so they can talk to each other on the CB or help each other out if there is a breakdown issue. It's not like a company is going to set out to destroy a family or hook drivers up for a relationship. That actually causes more problems within the company and it is discouraged, not encouraged.

I do not work for Werner, but I do work for a major trucking company. I have also worked for smaller trucking companies. One thing that remains constant is the drivers wives. If they suspect or know that their husband is having an affair, many will do whatever they can to get the driver fired. It's a revenge thing. I have had wives call in and report that their husband is drinking while on the road or before he came to work. I will send them for a random drug and alcohol test and they will come back clean. The driver will say after the test, my wife called didn't she?

Your marriage is over, you have to know this. There is no reason to also turn your kids against their dad. That won't solve anything. Don't try to get him fired, you will need him working so he can pay child support.

And a comment to Chris.. to imply that all women truck drivers are "lizzards" or that the only reason they are driving is because they have no one at home (you know what I mean) is wrong. That's like saying that all male truck drivers are fat, lazy, smelly ignorate men that can't do anything else but drive a truck. Is that You?? In my 15 years as a dispatcher, I have had men and women that have had amazine carriers before becoming truck drivers; college professors, professional chefs, writers, business owners, nurses etc. Some feel the call of the highway and take a sabatical from their "real jobs" to see what it's like. Some retire and want to see the country and make some money while they are at it. And, yes, there are some that can't do anything but drive. But never paint a whole segment of an industry with that broad of a paintbrush. It just makes you look ignorant and sexist.
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#19 Consumer Suggestion

Kelly:

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

Hi Kelly.
I'm glad I could help, However I was just telling you the truth, Lot Lizzard's are just that they are as attractive as that "A LIZZARD". My self i have a sticker on both my windows in the cab that have a picture of a lizzard with a red circle that runs threw the whole pic (means NO LIZZARDS ALLOWED)

As for female drivers, what can i say there has to be a reason they have decided to drive, Maybe cause they have no one at home. (what does that tell ya. lol) I have seen some pretty drivers (female) but thats because they team with thier husbands!

Now i would like to email ya, But i dont have ur email address? mine is kw9020, send mail to AOL.

hope to hear from ya.
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#20 Author of original report

thanx Chris

AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

I am so glad that I found somebody who understands. I will take your advice. Not out of revenge but for the safety of the families that are driving on those interstates. If you would like you can email me
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

I'm a truck driver also

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,
Im a driver too (NOT FOR WERNER), Look the fact that he drives for Werner should have showed you something by itself. As for this women dont be so down have you ever seen Female truckers? You mention Lizzards in your writing, Have you ever seen one?? O.M.G Kelly if he is going to Leave or take the chance of leaving/ loseing you for either of the above you are Better off without him.

Let me also say that if he is NOT a trainer Why did Werner do such a thing, This is truly NOT how Companys act or normally do things unless he requested it.

However I feel for you and my thoughts are with you and your children. I had the same problem too thou as Im a trucker, however the coin was turned, I would Leave on a tour and my wife thought it was time to go out. Thats ok thou because i new she was the loser. Just remember what and who he loat, and never let him hurt you again.

Lastly about the Alcohol, You can Notify Dept of Trans and let them know he has a drinking problem and is carrying alcohol in his truck, This is against the LAW!. I you ever call werner again ask for the SAFETY dept and talk to them, LET me tell you the Law, Its against the Law for any company to permit a driver to drive if they have recieved knowledege that the driver MAY be in violation of DOT 395.1. If you get NO responce from safety @ werner TELL them you are going to contact the Dept of Transportation.

If you ever want to talk or want more answers on trucking write back and i will keep am eye out for you.

As always folks KEEP your eyes open, and remember DONT FEED THE BEARS. (kelly Im sure you know what that means.........
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Move on with your life. Learn to make better choices. Try to make the most of the time you have left. And, do the best you can for your kids.

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

What if your husband started working in an office job? Would that have made any difference?

There are female co-workers in many jobs these days. If anything, most companies discourage romantic involvements because they detract from the work environment.

Putting co-workers together doesn't automatically mean that the people will become involved. That is something that your husband chose to do.

Clearly, your marriage is over. I'd bet it was over quite a while ago. You either failed to notice, or else failed to act on it.

Now that the truth is out in the open, you need to move on with your life. Sitting around blaming the trucking company or your ex-husband won't change anything here.

The facts are simple. The marriage is over. You can choose to go on with your life and find comfort and happiness with a new man, or else you can sit around and continue to be miserable.

Your choice.

In the future, you need to spot these kinds of things before you try to build a life with someone. You can see when someone isn't happy in the relationship. When you notice something is wrong, either work to fix it or else get out of the relationship.

Leave your ex-husband alone from now on. Chances are, he won't be coming back. All you should expect now is child support and visits with his children. Anything he had with you has ended. You need to accept that and allow the children to maintain a relationship with their father.

Learn from the mistakes that were made in this relationship. Use that knowledge to build a better relationship with someone new.

In this world, nothing lasts forever. Not life. Not love. The minute you learn to accept that, you will be on the right path to making the most out of the time you have left.
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#23 Author of original report

werner didn't help matters

AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)

Werner didn't have to constantly send them out on runs together either. The dispatcher purposely loads them together. I also informed werener that he was drinking and driving and nothing was done about that either. I didn't do that out of anger but my son noticed open wine cooler bottles in his truck and others that weren't drank yet. I also know he is constantly hitting the bars. Probably not to happy with the lot lizzard truck driver he ended up with!! anyways, i worry about the safety of everybody with him on the road and drinking.
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#24 Consumer Suggestion

Werner Didn't Do It.

AUTHOR: S.n. - (U.S.A.)

Werner did not make your husband cheat. The female driver did not make your husband cheat. The cheating is your husband's fault. Don't blame it on anyone else. Be glad you found out what he is and get rid of him. He obviously isn't worth it. Someday he will regret what he has done to your children. They will never look at him the same way again. I'm speaking from experience. You have NO idea how much better off you will be. Change the locks and get a good attorney.
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Werner Didn't Do It.

AUTHOR: S.n. - (U.S.A.)

Werner did not make your husband cheat. The female driver did not make your husband cheat. The cheating is your husband's fault. Don't blame it on anyone else. Be glad you found out what he is and get rid of him. He obviously isn't worth it. Someday he will regret what he has done to your children. They will never look at him the same way again. I'm speaking from experience. You have NO idea how much better off you will be. Change the locks and get a good attorney.
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Werner Didn't Do It.

AUTHOR: S.n. - (U.S.A.)

Werner did not make your husband cheat. The female driver did not make your husband cheat. The cheating is your husband's fault. Don't blame it on anyone else. Be glad you found out what he is and get rid of him. He obviously isn't worth it. Someday he will regret what he has done to your children. They will never look at him the same way again. I'm speaking from experience. You have NO idea how much better off you will be. Change the locks and get a good attorney.
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#27 Consumer Comment

Your husband ripped you off, not his employer!

AUTHOR: Lauri - (U.S.A.)

Kelly,
As horrible as adultery is, how in the world can you blame this on Werner or any other company????

Did your husband "forget" that he was married??? It doesn't matter if Werner had paired him up with a 460lb man, if your hubby was going to cheat, nothing in the world was going to stop him.

Get a good divorce attorney and take your cheating, no good hubby to the cleaners.

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