• Report: #53285

Complaint Review: Wilhelmina Scouting Network

  • Submitted: Thu, April 17, 2003
  • Updated: Sun, July 04, 2004

  • Reported By:Carbondale Illinois
Wilhelmina Scouting Network
Cordellco Building, Administration Drive St. Louis, Missouri U.S.A.

Wilhelmina Scouting Network not such a ripoff St. Louis Missouri

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ITs all about numbers

*Consumer Comment: Willy - WSN / TCT

*Consumer Suggestion: DONT BE SO NIEVE

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Why education is important

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I just wanted to clarify what Wilhelmina Scouting Network is and how it works. First of all, they DO NOT guarantee work to anyone at anytime. Clients are responsible for updating and maintaining their own site. It is very cut and dry. It is an opportunity not a guarantee. Just wanted to clear this all up for everyone.

I am a client and I have recieved numerous jobs because of it, but I do my job of maintaing, checking and updating my site.

Carbondale, Illinois

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

ITs all about numbers

AUTHOR: BArbara - (U.S.A.)

I aggree with all of you it is a numbers game.. I always had in the back of my mind this is a rip off but then I would here about people getting work and the "famous people" they have gotten jobs through their site, maybe it is true maybe not. It just seems kind of strange that they change names so often.. Why would Lou Pearlman wants to be affiliated with anything like this is beyond me. I guess anyone will do anything for that almighty dollar. I am glad I only worked there for a few weeks. I still think there are people who get work through this route but the percentage is quite low I bet..
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#2 Consumer Comment

Willy - WSN / TCT

AUTHOR: Allison - (U.S.A.)

This was a letter written to DATELINE


This is in regards to the segment you did on Trans Continental Talent / Wilhelmina Scouting Network. If you will do your research you will find that 1% of the models on the web site are currently unhappy with TCT / WSN if you look Disney has more complaints against them than TCT / WSN has. I find it sad that you would send a undercover Dateline Assistant into a casting and have her lie and sign a release saying she is not with the Media when in fact she is and she is taping , that is a law violation. Also, if you check out your so called source that you spoke to in Miami with Karin's you will see that he is not credible and to be frank a coke addict. Below is an excerpt from a article that was written about him.


Saying that Karin Models' Miami Director Jeff Fuller has a cocaine problem is like saying Elite head pervert John Casablancas likes em a little young. Jeff is well known on the Miami party circuit with his way too unbuttoned silk shirts, dropping names and giving air kisses to anyone and everyone who will listen. But it's at the midnight hour that he becomes the life of the party. With his little eight balls,' he is the king of coke. How do you think Karin's Models stay so thin, darling?

Well known among Miami bookers and some models, Jeff's coke habit has kept him from moving to New York or Paris where there is 12 months of work, not 8 or 9 like in Miami.

He has also attended all Options / TCT events so he has no room to talk. I think that you guys should have done your homework a little more and showed the positive side a little better then having three models with about 20 seconds for one of them to speak. The good will outweigh the bad if you take the time and do your research. Lou Perlman has made some of the best boy bands to date, there are a lot of people in the industry that would like to see TCT / WSN gone because it is in direct competition with other scouting companies such as Pro-Scout, IMTA, Faces West, MD Model & Talent Expo, Miami Beach Models Showcase and so on. If you look you will see that IMTA charges almost 5000.00 to attend and MB Expo charges close to 1500.00 to attend. $845.00 is the lowest amount that has ever been paid to attend a convention.

You have Jeff from Karin's Miami get on Dateline and say that everything is Advanced in this industry well thats just bull crap. There are some agencies Around the world that will front money for models however they are scares and few. The average female models spends about $5548.00 in her first year for the following: $1000.00 for her first photo shoot to start, $250.00 for Main Book, lasers and prints, $48.00 for the Agency laser book (usually 12 shots), $175.00 for Headsheets, $500.00 for Agency promotional book, $2500.00 or so for the Models Bag, $800.00 or so for Make-up,$50.00 for passport or more and $325.00 to $400.00 for there comp cards. And this comes from the following book : MODEL - The Complete Guide For Men and Women by: Marie Anderson Boyd who is one of the owners of Aria Models in Chicago.

Now on to DATELINE having nothing but negative things to say about TCT LOL if you are going to do a segment about scams why single one company that is not an agency but a scouting company. If you would do your research you would see that FORD, ELITE, CLICK, BOSS, DNA, NEXT, COMPANY and just about every major agency in NYC was sued and claimed to be a scam. But yet you go after a company who gives anyone a chance to be a model. For someone who dose not work in the industry I guess you would not know that in the Modeling world there are many types of modeling : Print, Full-Figure, Ethnic, Sophisticated, Editorial, Fashion Advertising, Product Print, Part Modeling, Nude Modeling, Illustration Modeling, Runway, Showroom, Informal, Promotion, Fit and Convention Modeling. If you would like a description on each one of these let me know and I will be very happy to explain them. Also, do you think Cindy Crawford became a super model over night? NO, she was rejected by everyone for a very very long time. Everyone said she would never work because of her mole and her looks. Now look at her, she is a supermodel and her mole is an IKON.

TCT / WSN has made a lot of Agents, Scouting Directors and Client's lives a lot easier. They have provided a service that is essential to this industry. I have read all the reports and they are all the same oh TCT / WSN said I was going to be a model and I never got any work and so on. Well you know what you can be scouted but you dont get the cover of Vogue or Marie Clair two weeks later. I think your company has failed to provide and accurate account of what really happens at TCT / WSN. I have had to defend the reason's I use TCT / WSN ever since I started and you know what it's because they make it easy for Scouts and Manager's to find new talent. That segment was a disgrace to the industry and should never have never been shown it was a one sided story.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion


AUTHOR: Dawn - (U.S.A.)

Kristin I dont think you are stupid but I will say you are a lot like I was NIEVE. I thought they were a reputable company too. They took almost 1500.00 dollars from me for enrollment, maintaining the comp card, and a down partial down payment for the NIGHTMARE they call Fashion Rock.

If they were so good at what they do you would not see so many complaints on this website and others also what reputable business do you know change their name once a year?

They are clearly running, because this scam is HUGE. They pray on people that have hopes and dreams, I defended them on this website too until I start to look a little deeper into the situation and I had to fess up that I had been had, I lost a lot of money but I learned my lesson well.

I hope since you are in college you will not let them take you for all the money you have college isnt cheap. By the way you can get your own auditions that tct sends you I am with a very reputable company now and I am getting the same thing tct tried to make me pay an arm and a leg for. Wise up before you go broke.
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Why education is important

AUTHOR: Alec - (Egypt)

You seem to be a very intelligent person. I can tell by your inability to spell correctly. Sweetie, the highest paid talents from last year earned $500. If you consider that to be substantial money, I want to be where the cost of living is so low.

Oh, Carbondale home of the famous SIU. The school is infamous for accpeting all students that couldn't get in anywhere else! Now we all understand why you would think that this company is anything but a scam, you are STUPID!

When you get a modeling contract with an actual agency for a substantial amount and when you are not selling bacardi shots in night clubs for promotions, let us know what REAL magazines to look you up in. Until that time, you are a nobody as are 99.9% of the people that waste their time and money on this company...TCT, Trans Continental Talent, Options Talent, Studio58, Model One, Wilhelmina, Creative Models, need I say more!!!
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