• Report: #1081847

Complaint Review: Wilson Luna Ltd

  • Submitted: Thu, September 05, 2013
  • Updated: Tue, September 29, 2015

  • Reported By: Exposing Injustice — Birmingham Alabama
Wilson Luna Ltd
London , Select State/Province USA

Wilson Luna Ltd Business Prophet - UK, Australia, Europe Complaint Review, Scam, Waste of money, Dangerous, Bad Practice, Emotional Blackmail, Caution,Under Investigation, Fraud, Cult London Nationwide

*Consumer Comment: Wilson Luna is a FRAUD

*Consumer Comment: Wilson Robert Luna is a Scam

*Consumer Comment: Wilson Luna - Scam Artist

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Approach with caution. No customer service, no business coaching, no support with business plan, marketing or finance.   Dangerous NLP techniques used to brainwash and confuse. 


Wilson Luna is NOT a best selling author with 3 million dollar enterprises.  Having run a thorough check, no such businesses are registered in Australia or companies house. If you don't believe me, run your own check and read the other ripoff reports.


He is however, a motivational speaker who trained with Clinton Swain and started his UK businsss with the support of his peers, many of whom are crew members and free subscribers. Sidra Jafri, being one of them. Aha, the so-called, next Deepak Chopra! 


Out of the 12 archetypal speaker styles, that Clinton teaches, Luna favours the Magician, The Preacher, Rock Star, Commander and Motivator.  Sidra Jafri,  also uses The Preacher, as well as Channeller and Majesty.


Luna calls himself 'a monkey in a suit' because that's exactly what he is. The brains behind the operation is his wife, who claims she is a spiritual being doing Gods work, when in reality she is a businesswoman running a business.


The Luna's free 2 day course is packed with brainwashing material where attendees are brought to tears searching for their 'why'. Luna outright tells attendees ''Think of your children, your parents, all the homeless you can't help by being homeless. Think of all the good you could do, if you had MONEY!? Imagine you were in an accident, about to die and write a letter to your beloved children, partner, or parents - and tell them what a 'f**king' failure you are! Tell them that you were too much of a coward to even try to make a difference.'' 


This technique, which reduces educated, ambitious, grown men and women to quivering wrecks, is used to induce you into buying his program. By playing with your emotions and increasing your your desire to 'up your f**king standards' as Luna, puts it, Luna creates mass hysteria and panic.  Luna uses 'f**k' a lot as an anchor, and commands his crew to, f**k, clap on tap.


His first marketing campaign invited people to join him in becoming a millionaire. Luna claimed he placed a bet with a friend that he could produce 100 millionaires in one year. Within six months he changed his Millionaire Apprenticeship (MAP for short) to Business Incubator Bootcamp (BIB). 


No one knows if he changed the program because he realised that it's impossible to produce 100 millionaires in 10 years, let alone one. Or if he knew it all along? Luna did not tell his customers. 


It's not easy to leave a group once you've joined.  Keep this in mind when signing up to a Lifetime Membership program, like Luna's and Jafri's.


Anthony Robbins claims there are Six Human Needs.


1. Certainty

2. Uncertainty

3. Significance

4. Connection

5. Growth

6. Contribution


And both Luna and Jafri focus on those seeking connection first, then growth, contribution and significance. Certainty/uncertainty are used to ensure you pay your lifetime, monthly subscription AND continue to worship the Magician/Majesty. If you don't succeed it's YOUR FAULT! But... If you keep subscribing and attending, and worshipping, and promoting, and bringing other likeminded people - there IS hope. 


£5k is a lot to pay for hope and a group of facebook friends. You're far better off investing that money in your business. 


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#1 Consumer Comment

Wilson Luna is a FRAUD

AUTHOR: Jane - (USA)

Wilson Luna is a total fraud - he keeps on changing his name to avoid the bad publicity that keeps on following him - he had changed his biography now becasue everything he had said before that was a total lie - he has cheated people from millions of dollars with his lies and deceit - he employs young boys and girls so he can easily manipulate them - he orders his members to post on his Facebook with crap about their business progress - I spoke to Laura Nelson who is now on her 5th business idea which is another hopeless attempt at becoming an entrepreneur - she is in thousands of pounds of debt - can't afford her rent, but this charlatan will take her money because she is besotted with him! 

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Wilson Robert Luna is a Scam

AUTHOR: Jane - (USA)

I went to free seminar and it was good. Pressure to join was big and I feel it. At time I scared but I like the people. Wilson Luna confident man who knows you. He can see if serious or not. Even if not good business person he still accept you on course which I thing is wrong. I join and pay lot of money that is mistake. I ask for help to leave and refund. No one reply to me. I very upset because I lose my savings and say too much in facebook private group. I write again and again ignore and then delete me from group. 

I miss friends I made in facebook and no more fatherland. It hard to connect outside group. Those people who love Wilson don't love you if you leave. I worry for them because he shout to them and every body cry. They confuse coaching with humiliation. A lot humiliation. Frighten me and shake me. I trembling at last seminar.
Then one person show me ripoff reports and I think I write. Warn other people not to join if they soft heart and no business mind. Too much pressure in free seminar to join and people very nice and friendly. People wand make world better. They wand success and lot money. Some people who have business get attention from Wilson and he not to them the same. He give advice and then changes and forget what he say. I see business change because Wilson change he mind. Everybody confused.
People think he Jesus the messiah and he accept this. He think he is messiah.  I worry about this and very soft people. 
Please if you not sure you can join trust you heart. Wilson tell you to trust you heart and then confuse you to not trust you heart. My heart tell me to leave. I stay because pressure to help my family  make me cry. I think with Wilson I can do it and then he not help me. I lose my money now and my friends. 
Be careful and true you heart. Good luck.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Wilson Luna - Scam Artist

AUTHOR: Andy - (USA)

I remembered the Facebook motivational speaker Wilson Luna, the "mover, shaker, millionaire-maker", who promises to make you into a millionaire for £5,000 chargeable upfront, or just under £6,000, if you pay by installments. If you have read my January 2013 blogs, you would know that I am not a big fan of the man.

Recently I have met people who have left his course and are now being threatened with legal action, in such an inept way that just does not make sense for someone who has had money... so I decided to look a bit deeper into it.

Luna says in his own profile, uploaded by him: "However Wilson Luna now knew the secrets to financial freedom and managed to go from here to go on and build three multimillion-dollar companies before the age of 35.

Nowadays Wilson Luna is the Author of 4 best sellers as well as launching Australia's largest independent business and money brand "Your Family Your Money". He has spent a decade being the 'go to' guy for business advice for top CEOs worldwide.

In previous years Wilson Luna was responsible for putting 8 out of the twenty three infant businesses onto the Australian FTSE as well as aiding over 90,000 individuals create real monetary RESULTS in their lives today both in Australia and now in the UK."

That's a direct quote from something Wilson Luna uploaded on the Internet about Wilson Luna. I haven't changed the spelling or anything else. 

So, true or false? 

Let's do some maths. 

Wilson Luna was born in November 1971, so simple maths show that he would be 35 in 2006. So all we need to do is find what he did before 2006.

The Internet was already part of our every-day lives, but unfortunately I could not find any mention on the Internet of Luna's rags to riches story, except for from Luna himself. 

The easiest way to check someone's company directorships in Australia is to go on the Dun and Bradstreet website, DNB Express, and see what they have to say. DNB is the world leading business intelligence and business risk assessment website. Their databases are up-to date and it's a go-to place for CEOs of Fortune 500 companies.

All you need to do is put in the person's name, pay them 56 dollars, and hey presto, the report is on your desktop.


This section has been updated 23 March 2013, in an effort to eliminate "inaccuracies" that Kerrin Medenyak's email  of March 19 mentioned. It is hard to find exact information but here is another best shot. Apologies for earlier minor inaccuracies Kerrin. I also thought it would be  a good idea to disclose in full my sources of information, since they are useful business tools which are publicly available. 

In addition to the DNB report on Luna's directorships and shareholdings, the information below is obtained from the Australian Securities and Investment Commission Register (dates of formation, changes of name and dissolution) and ABN Lookup.  ABN Lookup is the public view of the Australian Business Register (ABR). It provides access to the publicly available information supplied by businesses when they register for an Australian Business Number (ABN). I also used Creditorwatch Australia as a second source of information for Luna Group Pty Ltd.

Luna has been director of three companies in total. Two of them are now dissolved.

The first company on the list was "Opulent Creations Pty Ltd" It was formed in May 1997, and was originally called Luna Holdings Pty Ltd. This link  on the IBN Lookup website says that the company cancelled its activities in 2005. It was officially dissolved in June 2007. You can jump to ASIC information from the ABN lookup screen. 

The next one on my list is "Sage Cleaning Services Pty Ltd". This is not a very millionaire making name, but I am keeping an open mind. Here is its history: 
Formed Quan Consulting Group Pty Ltd
Renamed Sage Consulting Group Pty Ltd 
Renamed Sage Cleaning Services Pty Ltd
Deregistered voluntarily under Section 601AA 
PS 25/2/13: just found out, from the horse's mouth, that before becoming a cleaning guru, Luna, the Facebook cheerleader and millionaire-creator, also was an insurance salesman and a tied agent for AXA: yourfamilyyourmoney.com/Media/FranchisingMagazine.htm Read the text next to his picture. 

And finally, Luna Group Pty Ltd: this one has survived from 2008, but moved three times... including its main business address which looks like a hotel room. It is now registered to a private apartment. But it was registered when Luna was 37, so well out of the time frame we are looking at.

The ABN lookup is here, and you can jump to ASIC from the ABN screen

PS 23/3/2013: There is a South African multi-million dollar company of virtually the same name, Luna Group (Pty) Ltd, but it was formed in 1976 when Luna was a toddler, and does not appear to have anything to do with him. I could not find any connections. So thank you for asking me to check it. 

So if this is what the top multimillionaire adviser's business CV looks like, I dread to think what's at the bottom of the barrel.

And the maths seriously don't add up.

The drums are off-beat, the cello needs a tuner.... show me the money Wilson Luna! 


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