• Report: #96900

Complaint Review: World Traders Association & IMG

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  • Submitted: Tue, June 29, 2004
  • Updated: Wed, July 28, 2004

  • Reported By:Hollywood Maryland
World Traders Association & IMG
http://imgrouponline.com Internet U.S.A.

World Traders Association & IMG WTA disappeared and apparently became IMG. I received no notice and no one will respond to my calls or emails. Help! Internet

*Consumer Comment: Funny -Thats the same message on the IMG login page....

*Consumer Comment: You are not alone.

*Consumer Suggestion: BREACH OF CONTRACT, I HAVE NO CHOICE TO ASK FOR A REFUND OF MY MEMBERSHIP COST

*Author of original report: why has no one from IMG responded to any of the postings listed on the web?

*Author of original report: World Traders Associaton Update

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: WTA IS A RIP - OFF

*Author of original report: Received a call from initials M.S.

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I am not writing to say whether or not WTA and IMG are legimate or not. I just want to know why I was never told that WTA went out of business and that IMG is now the same company. I know this to be true as I finally found my trainer's new three digit extension and left her a voice mail. I have yet to get a call back. I am also no longer receiving email replies. I am unable to order any merchandise, get leads etc etc.

The WTA website is down. The members area is online, but I have been completely disconnected from my trainer and any number that use to work for WTA. I remember asking my trainer why I never received a newsletter. Her answer was always "...they are re-doing the layout...". Of course I now know that WTA was shutting down and IMG was taking over. I also noticed the WTA ad no longer posted in Entrepreneur magazine. However, there was a new ad that was nearly the same but with IMG as the company. All this time not one word to me about the change. This by far has been the most disturbing issue for me. How can a company take $6,999 and drop off the face of the earth without people questioning their legitimacy?

However, this is not why I am posting this message. I need my trainer to contact me ASAP. I want to be assured that my WTA membership has transferred to IMG and need solid evidence that this is a legimate business to be a part of. My trainer's extension is 206 and her initials are J.M. I am trying to be fair so hopefully Mike or someone at IMG will contact me as soon as possible. I don't want a million calls from strangers, so please repy to this post with a working phone number and or email I can use to establish contact. Or just have J.M. call me. My contact number has not changed since my last contact with her.

To be safe and because these postings have alarmed me, I am documenting everything with my lawyer. I will record all phone calls I receive from WTA/IMG and will keep all emails. I want to give WTA/IMG a chance to renew our relationship. I think this is fair. If I do not hear back from someone at WTA/IMG by July 15th 2004, I will initiate official legal actions. I don't want it to come to this and hope I hear from someone soon.

Dan
Hollywood, Maryland
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/29/2004 06:56 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/World-Traders-Association-IMG/internet/World-Traders-Association-IMG-WTA-disappeared-and-apparently-became-IMG-I-received-no-96900. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Funny -Thats the same message on the IMG login page....

AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)

Gregg,

I'm happy to see that you are taking a stand. IMG has the identical website with the identical wordings. Read my other postings that are up and the ones coming up in the future. I have alot of info to pass along.
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#2 Consumer Comment

You are not alone.

AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)

To Dan and all the other unfortunate affiliates out there:

All the information out there makes this whole scam so obvious. I for one have documented so many lies and actions of deceit that it would be impossable to further deny the facts. This is why they are not respnding to me anymore.

I am currently being blackballed from IMG. I have been cut off from my trainer (he finally responded to an email from me asking what happeded to him and stated that he can no longer speak with me). His initials are M.S.

I am flying to San Francisco on 7/28 and have requested from B.B. of IMG that we have a sit down to discuss the issues face to face, so that I may also view their "facilities" (I don't believe they have any, I believe they all work form home)

His only response has been to ignore my requests even though I have requested this information on numerous occasions.

The truth is he is afraid to meet face to face because then he would not be able to hide behind his voicemail and e-mail for a monent to think of creative answers to the tough questions that are presented to him.

Any reputable company would have open arms to investors visiting there offices or warehouses etc. It would be good public relations and would stregthen their stance. Instead these people wont even acknowledge a simple question of where they are located.

If B.B. were to accept my offer to meet face to face and be truthful about all the issues surrounding them, I would retract all my statements immediately and admit I was wrong.

But we all know this is not possible.

I have a great lawyer here in Illinois who is salivating at the opportunity to represent in this case. If it is to be decided in Colorado per their contract, I have already flown to Denver and met with a very competent lawyer their also who I was referred to. He also knows I'm serious and he actually has heard about IMG, WTA, & TGC already. It is time to put the squeeze on these guys. If anybody needs more information on how to fight back, just post a rebuttal. Unfortunately on the advice of my lawyers, I cannot disclose all the dirt I have for obvious reasons in a public forum yet. But rest assured, it will eventually be broadcasted publically and made clear to all.

P.S. Here is a funny exercise, I just have to let one thing out:

Go to the comcast.net search engine and type in World Traders Association. The 1st entry that comes up is for a home based business called "World Traders Association" - makes sense, right?. Now follow the link, It takes you to "The Global Connection", you know the company that they say they have nothing to do with.

More later.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

BREACH OF CONTRACT, I HAVE NO CHOICE TO ASK FOR A REFUND OF MY MEMBERSHIP COST

AUTHOR: GREGG - (U.S.A.)

HERE IS WHAT IS POSTED ON THE MEMBERS PAGE BEFORE YOU LOGIN!!!!!


IMPORTANT NOTE, PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
To preserve ongoing relationships with some of our current suppliers, affiliates cannot create websites and advertise WTA inventory on the Internet. We have specific agreements with many of our suppliers that allow us to enjoy below market pricing. These agreements restrict WTA inventory from being displayed anywhere but on the WTA website, and only if access is restricted to our affiliates. If you desire to offer this merchandise on your web site, you must purchase the merchandise prior to offering it on the Internet. Members are not restricted to faxing or emailing information to their perspective buyers providing they mark the correspondence CONFIDENTIAL'.



THE ABOVE SAID STATEMENT IS A BREACH OF CONTRACT ON THE BEHALF OF WTA; IT IS STATED IN THE CONTRACT WE AS WTA MEMBERS ;

DO NOT CARRY INVENTORY

NO SALESMENSHIP

NO INVESTMENT ON OUR PART

NO COLD CALLING

ALL OF ABOVE STATMENT THAT I LISTED IS PER CONTRACT & PROMISES FROM YOU (WTA) BY 1ST ABOVE STATMENT YOU HAVE CHANGED THE CONTRACT WITHOUT NOTICE THEREFORE THIS IS BREACH OF CONTRACT IN ITSELF AS FAR AS ALL THE REST THAT IS STATED;

1.SEE ABOVE AS I STATED

2.NO SALESMENSHIP( WE HAVE TO SELL THE PRODUCT & CONVINCE THE BUYER & SELLER BOTH TO THE SALE)

3.NO INVESTMENT ON OUR PART(.IF WE BUY& CARRY INVENTORY THAT IS AN INVESTMENT AT OUR COST)

4.NO COLD CALLING ( WE HAVE TO CALL A BUYER & SELLER TO OBTAIN INFO ON PRODUCTS)

THEREFORE I HAVE NO CHOICE TO ASK FOR A REFUND OF MY MEMBERSHIP COST;

1.$6,950.00

2.$ 210.00 FOR MONTHLY DUES

I'M GIVING YOU THE OPPURTUNITY TO REFUND ALL OF MY ABOVE COST STATED WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THIS EMAIL LETTER OR I WILL TAKE YOU TO COURT FOR MY TOTAL COST OF MY BUSINESS UPSTART OF $10,000.00.
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#4 Author of original report

why has no one from IMG responded to any of the postings listed on the web?

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

I have been told by two different individuals at 'WTA' that IMG is a competitor. I have one quesion: why has no one from IMG responded to any of the postings listed on the web? I have searched and read as many as possible and not once is there anything from IMG.

WTA and IMG executives (and possibly Global Connection): if you have nothing to hide and we are all wrong, prove it. Don't simply reply to these posts with generalized answers that could lean either way. WTA - bring your corporate website back and list your executives. Show us a picture of yourself like so many other businesses do. Tell us who you are. IMG - do the same. Tell us all what happened to our trainers and their phone extensions. WTA - prove to us that a prior post is wrong by stating that you lost your assisted reseller marketing registration. Do something REAL to explain all of these concerns. So far, all we see are some general posts and some phone calls trying to scare people away from these issues.
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World Traders Associaton Update

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

Received a new email from the person who supposedly replaced my original WTA trainer. Now he tells me that my original trainer has left WTA and gone to another company. When he first called a couple of weeks ago, he said that she had moved to another department. It is clear that she moved to the IMG department.

Why else would WTA cut off all phone extensions and only allow you to leave a message in the main box? Why else would they take their main website down? Apparently, they were shut down and started IMG to continue with what is starting to look more and more like a full blown scam. I have now received emails from affiliates of Global Connections who have discovered that they are in the same boat and guess what, WTA & IMG are involved.

Owners of WTA / IMG etc etc. Your members are catching on. I suggest you respond so we can resolve our differences.
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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

WTA IS A RIP - OFF

AUTHOR: Gregg - (U.S.A.)

i have been rip-offed by wta ,i've have lost many sales do to the fact wta never has any answers for me when i ask them anything their response time is not 24 hrs like promised in there contract. All of info is old ,i've been with wta for 1yr and they still have most of the same products listed on there members page. I will agree with everything that is posted about wta from everyone who is member.i would like anyone who has posted anything about wta to call me ,I feel we should file a lawsuit,but do you think we ever get a refund " i doubt it " [place your comments below and be sure to put your contact information so Rip-off Report can contact you.]
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#7 Author of original report

Received a call from initials M.S.

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

I sent more emails to my original trainer, initials J.M. I never heard back from her but someone else intercepted this email and called me. This person told me that my original trainer moved to a different department within WTA. This person also told me that WTA and IMG were 'not' the same company. However, I found my original trainer's new phone extension and called it. Her voice mail says "...hi, this is so and so from IMG...". When I mentioned this on the phone, this new contact fumbled a little and didn't know what to say. This was an obvious lie and when caught, there was no solid argument from his end. Since then I have done some more research and discovered that WTA and IMG domain names share the same RACKSPACE IP range. It is possible that this is a coincidence, but with the other information I have uncovered - I doubt it is.

So here I am back at this site trying to get someone at a higher level to contact me. I want proof that WTA is still in business and that IMG is not related in any way, shape or form. This new contact told me that IMG was WTA's competition. This was before I told him about my original trainer's voice mail was labeled IMG. All the facts point to IMG being run by the same people who started IMG. It would be interesting to discover that they have created their own competition.

In any case, anyone thinking about joining IMG better do their homework first. It's also interesting to note that WTA is no longer accepting memberships. I wonder why? Maybe I'll post my membership for sale on eBay to attract anyone interested in this business and then point them to this site. Afterall, eBay does host nearly 40 million active users.

Hope to hear from someone soon who can address this seriously. I won't stop until my concerns are discussed with someone other than the 'training department'.
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