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Complaint Review: Www.elenasmodels.com Aka Elena Petrova

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  • Submitted: Thu, May 13, 2004
  • Updated: Sat, June 04, 2011

  • Reported By:Mathis Texas
Www.elenasmodels.com Aka Elena Petrova
Suite 407 Locked Bagl, Robina Town Centre Queensland 2339 Kern Street, # 220, California U.S.A.

Www.elenamodels.com Aka Elena Petrova Www.womenrussia.com ripoff, scam, deceptive, misleading, blacklist, blacklisted, avoid, fraudulent, fraud California

*Consumer Comment: The Truth Is Spoken and Cannot Be Taken Down

*General Comment: Rediculous

*Consumer Comment: Maybe

*Consumer Comment: Elena's Models is not a rip-off

*Consumer Comment: Elena Petrova is an honest and helpful person

*Consumer Comment: My Response to Jay in Texas....

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: This Report Is False and Misleading, This Is Why

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: This Report Is Posted By A Competitor

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ELENA PETROVA and www.ELENASMODELS.COM and www.womenrussia.com is fraudulent. Here is how the scam works:

ELENA PETROVA of Elena's Models owns both websites. one one site she promotes her women as the best in the world for men to meet. on the other site, www.womenrussia.com she runs down all other agencies by calling them scams. she does not allow other agencies to come into her forum and defend themselves. she lives in austrailia thus making it hard to file a lawsuit against her by any american company.

she is a deceptive and runs a scam agency herself...she does not personally recruit any women. they all join only by email and she takes their information via email...thus leaving the men to fend for themselves not knowing whom they are meetiing overseas. you can see this by noticing that not all women come from the same city. she verifies nothing. yes, she has some contacts in russia but no information of the girls is verified. thus, men are left with women scammers to deal with as she is not watching after them on her own. I too was scammed by one her women. elena petrova cannot be trusted as she is running a scam and misleading men by running down her competition even though she does not personally recruit any women on her site.

Jay
Mathis, Texas
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/13/2004 01:04 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Wwwelenasmodelscom-Aka-Elena-Petrova/2339-Kern-Street-220-California-93721/Wwwelenamodelscom-Aka-Elena-Petrova-Wwwwomenrussiacom-ripoff-scam-deceptive-mislead-91325. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

The Truth Is Spoken and Cannot Be Taken Down

AUTHOR: TheRealTruthTeller - (USA)

The Truth will Never Come Down

Thank you for exposing misinformation

Liars are always offended when the Truth is Spoken

Thank you RipOff Report
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#2 General Comment

Rediculous

AUTHOR: jlgrock - (United States of America)

This site is a bad idea to use in my opinion.  I came across this site while looking for a gift for my Russian girlfriend's parents (which live in Moscow after years of living in the Ukraine and Belarus).  The amount of misinformation on this site is extraordinary.

For example, I read things in the FAQ section that listed that "A child has no future in Russia."  and "... long run a child will benefit growing up in a Christian culture."  I've been to Russia a number of times and they are a very spiritual people and not as ignorant as indicated.  My girlfriend and most of her family (which is in no way rich) and friends have their college completely paid for by the state.  Now, are they as wealthy, per capita?  No.  But this is not the same.

If you are researching this site, in my humble opinion, please avoid this site.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Maybe

AUTHOR: Cuban 2000 - (U.S.A.)

Ok, "Maybe" I can only say on this post, that i have been an active member of elena's model website, and nothing has happened so far, from all the girls that i have tried to correspond, sooner or later they stop, they don't keep going, even when supposedly they have my email (sent by me). And i am a pretty handsome guy (LOL)
So here it' my conception of the fraud, first of all, the persons responding positively to this post, might be herself or someone else on her behalf, C'mom Elena, give us something else from your site, other than the (EOI) Expression of Interest and mysterious photos profiles that you post on it....
Sincerely
The Cuban
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#4 Consumer Comment

Elena's Models is not a rip-off

AUTHOR: Alex74 - (Australia)

Everything in the above post is not true. I have been a member of Elena's models for a few months and have met close to one hundred real Russian, Ukrainian and Uzbek women. They are all real - I have spoken to many of them on the phone and by instant messager with webcam. I am going to meet 1 girl in December who I speak with and see on msn messenger twice a day. Furthermore she has never asked me for any money - giving and asking for money between men and women is banned on Elena's site. She verifies all women either by having them go to her agency in person if they are in a major city or close by. If she cannot do this she verifies the women by phoning them and asking some detailed questions - this was the case with the girl I am meeting as she lives in Crimea and is not close to any major city where she could be verified in person. As I say - I see and speak to her twice a day by msn messenger - she is definitely real and genuine and a stunning looking 25 year old to boot! Whoever wrote that rip-off report may well be a scammer themselves - this would not surprise me as Russian mafia are extremely active in this area and would love to discredit Elena's models and the half dozen or so other reputable Russian dating agencies designed for western men. Do not belive all you read here - remember anyone can post a negative report to get at their rivals.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Elena Petrova is an honest and helpful person

AUTHOR: Claudepgh - (U.S.A.)

I married a girl from Ukraine who I met myself online. I never spent a dime with Elena yet she helped me with good advice and information and I was able to find out information about my finance (now my wife) that was very helpful in determining whether she was legit and not a scammer. This is an honest business and a charitable one also. I have exchanged emails directly with Elena a few times.
I was able to read and learn many things for free on her site as well as find names of legit investigation firms to hire for backround checks without any charge from Elena. I should send her a check for the use of her site. I just might do it anyway.
If you have evidence to the contrary, present it. In my opinion this is sour grapes and you are upset because her business is thriving while your results are pathetic. Its the honesty of Elena, her helpfulness, and lack of greed that makes her endeavors successful.
If you have a complaint, make it and prove your case. I think you need more fiber in your diet :)
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#6 Consumer Comment

My Response to Jay in Texas....

AUTHOR: Gerry - (U.S.A.)

Jay,

I challenge you to PROVE your allegations. Post, right here on this web site, valid proof of what you alledge. I assure you that I can certainly prove your allegations to be FALSE. As a client of Elena Petrova, I can prove that the girls are real (I am engaged to one - we are going through the fiance visa process now and will be marrying in Spring of '08. I can also provide two other couples who met and married through elena'smodels.com - one woman is my fiance's friend, who is now married and lives in California, and the other couple is helping me with my fiance visa paperwork), and I can prove that she does indeed have offices oversees (I was in the office in Kiev this past July - '07).

It's as simple as that. You are doing the accusing, now provide the burden of proof.
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This Report Is False and Misleading, This Is Why

AUTHOR: Elena - (Australia)

This report is false and misleading.

- Elena's Models have full-time offices in Ukraine, Russia, Bulgaria and Romania. Many women register through the offices, and we know them personally.

- We check all submitted profiles before publication. No profile is going live without being checked by the site's admin. We also have "Confirmed profiles" on our site, which means we have checked the woman's documents and verified her information.

- Elena's Models is a legitimate LICENSED business and not a scam. We are in business since 1999, and have 60,000+ clients in 167 countries, and full-time offices in 5 countries.

- Elena's Models comply with all relevant regulations and we are the only large Russian dating site that offers 3-day cooling-off period to its customers, during which the client can ask for a refund no matter what. We have 90-day refund policy and we always refund customers if they are unhappy with the service. Many of them come back and re-sign up with us, and buy even a more expensive package.

Yes, we may have some individuals who try to misuse our service, just like any dating site has. But we do not tolerate them on our site. We hunt them down and remove them immediately.

Yes, Elena Petrova is the owner of both www.womenrussia.com and www.elenasmodels.com. She doesn't hide it. To the contrary, she clearly says so on her sites, http://www.womenrussia.com/who.htm and http://www.elenasmodels.com/about .

Elena is the author of several books, including the famous "Anti-Scam Guide", and she was recognized as the world-leading authority on dating scams by The New Criminologist. Interviews with Elena appeared in numerous publications and TV programs around the globe: USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Finland, Spain, Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, South Africa, New Zealand, and the list goes on.

Elena Petrova is not a scammer, she doesn't commit fraud, and she doesn't run down other people and agencies, unlike the author of this report.

Elena's Models has one of the best reputations in the Russian dating industry, and is recommended by many consumer protection sites, such as antiscam.net, and many others.

Please visit our site www.elenasmodels.com and see for yourself.
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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

This Report Is Posted By A Competitor

AUTHOR: Elena - (Australia)

Hello, my name is Elena Petrova. I recently was informed about the report on this site, which mentions my name and the name of my agency.

I oppose this report and I am surprised it was allowed to be posted, in the first turn. It appears like no one read it before allowing it to be broadcast to the whole Internet.

There are no facts and no supporting evidence in this report, only ungrounded accusations. It is pure libel and defamation.

Elena's Models www.elenasmodels.com is a legitimate business and NOT a scam.

We are a LICENSED introduction agency (Registered Introduction Agent License #3008169 of Queensland, Australia) and we have a good record with the Office of Fair Trading (www.fairtrading.qld.gov.au), which looks after the licensed businesses in our state. You are welcome to check our records with them.

We have dozens of testimonials from former clients, with photos of the couples that met through our agency, on our website www.elenasmodels.com. We know these couples and can bring you in contact with them, if you would like to.

This report does not list any facts, only ungrounded accusations.

I immediately recognized the wording of this report as there were dozens of copies of the same message posted all over the Internet in 2004, by an owner of a competing agency. (I do not include his name or the name of his agency here, but I can provide it on request.)

The reason for his postings was that there was a negative message about his agency on my website, posted by a user of his service. The person who posted the report detailed his account with his agency, which was negative.

Since the same message was posted on multiple message boards, I learned about them quickly and the owners of the dating-related message boards were the ones who contacted me with the name of the competitor responsible for the postings, this is how I know who he is.

I removed the comment about his agency from my website (although there was enough evidence to back it up and the poster was happy to stand by his post), and the online libel campaign against myself immediately stopped.

I would like to see the poster of this report to stand by his post and provide FACTS instead of ungrounded accusations.

I am also busy hiring an American attorney to proceed with a defamation case against this person and the publishers supporting him.

I request this report to be removed from this website.

Regards,
Elena Petrova
http://www.elenasmodels.com
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