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  • Submitted: Mon, March 03, 2008
  • Updated: Sun, January 04, 2009

  • Reported By:Calhan Colorado
Www.yorky4you.com (Pat Crabbtree)
1525 Road O St. Francis, Kansas U.S.A.

Www.yorky4you.com (Pat Crabbtree) Suspected puppy mill, deceitful web sight St. Francis Kansas

*Consumer Comment: Curious about Pat's dogs

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: where do people get his stuff?

*Consumer Comment: PAT CRABTREE IS RUNNING A PUPPY MILL

*Consumer Comment: PAT CRABTREE IS RUNNING A PUPPY MILL

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

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Hi my name is Virginia, I raise and show Yorkies on a very small scale, I believe much like a lot of other small scale breeders. My dogs are my life and anything I can do to better their lives is done. All my dogs live in our home, they are very much a part of our family. I am very selective about my breeding program and when a female is retired at 3 to 4 years of age with no more than 2 to 3 litters having been produced they are either spayed and live with us for the rest of their lives or are adopted out to loving homes where they can be one on one. Where this is going is real simple, on Oct. 24, 2006 I received a call from a what I thought to be a very nice woman looking for an older dog for her daughter. I had a little girl that had surgery to remove part of the femoral head on her right leg. She had an injury from jumping off the couch. I did all the rehabilitation for her, and was told she could be bred because it was not hereditary however I felt it would be totally unfair to breed her and put stress from the additional weight on her leg. Fantasia slept with my husband, myself and 13 other Yorkies. It was hard for Fantasia to keep up with the other kids so I thought I would not be selfish and let her have a home of her home to be pampered and loved! I explained to this Pat Crabtree what was going on with Fantasia and that I would be willing to adopt her out after I had her spayed. She assured me that her daughter would have no problem spaying her, I should have known better than to trust anyone but I did. Pat Crabbtree picked up Fantasia, she signed her daughters name to the contract and off they went. A few months later, another woman brought her female in for breeding, when I asked to see the pedigree, I found that her dog came from the very woman that had taken Fantasia. At that time, this woman told me that Pat Crabbtree is one of the biggest breeders in Kansas. Commercial breeding facilities as they are called are not out for the preservation and betterment of the breed. I immediately called the Pat Crabbtree, she denied it was her that took Fantasia, telling me it was her sister, Pam Crabtree who took Fantasia for the daughter. When I asked for a contact number for her sister or her sisters daughter, I got the run around about they had just moved but she would have one of them contact me. Nothing ever came of that and then a grooming client of mine purchased a Yorkie from another family member of hers and asked me to evaluate it. She brought the paper work as well as a very large 4 month old Yorkie, the paper work was from this Pat Crabbtree in Kansas. The client gave me the web sight for Pat Crabbtree, I surfed the sight and found on the photo album page (second from the right in a red circle) what appears to be my Fantasia. Of course that was denied, supposedly it is, in her words one of her sires. Fantasia was a very happy little girl and now her eyes look so sad. My Fantasia ended up in what I suspect to be a puppy mill. I have anguished over this, and know there is nothing I can do. I know it will never happen again, because I have very little trust left in the human race. If I could get the word out and make Pat Crabtree's life as miserable as she has made mine knowing what Fantasia could be suffering. You can find Pat Crabtree's web sight as www.yorky4you.com which takes you to Little Paws Kennel in the NW corner of Kansas, precisely 1525 Road O, St. Francis, Kansas, 67756. Her contact phone number on her sight is 719-342-0050. In this web sight you will find so many lies, right down to Standard and Parti Yorkies? I think not, check out the standards on the AKC sight, you won't find parti listed as a qualifying color, or a standard Yorkie. I don't know where she got her information and maybe she thinks us to be so dumb as to not be able to check for accuracy of her statements. She needs to give us a little more credit. She claims that a Parti Yorkie won best of show at Crufts, the first and only Yorkshire Terrier to win Best in Show at Crufts was CH. Ozmillion's Mystification in 1997! There are more restrictions on what and how many of whatever breed you can breed in European countries thus why they were brought here to try to establish. The YTCA and AKC recently changed the Standard to include a disqualification for some specifications regarding color in order to try and squelch this new fad in Yorkies. Parti is actually a tri color and do we really believe these to be pure bred Yorkshire Terrier? With all the untruths what do you think is poor little Fantasia's fate?

Virginia
Calhan, Colorado
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Curious about Pat's dogs

AUTHOR: Me - (U.S.A.)

Okay, so I went to the sight after reading the first report. I am soooooooo curious about the parties. ARE Pat's dog's AKC? And yes, I do remember when you could only register a white schnauzer by a big pain in the butt because they weren't on the app, but they are now so that's no reason why if they aren't. A color not listed on the apps, is NO reason for a puppy or dog not to be registered. Also, are these parties DNA'd by a REPUTABLE source? Seems to me it would be the way to go if selling something so rare. I actually have a million questions, but those will do for now, since Pat has responded.
To the first party, I am soooooo sorry for the way you are feeling. Alot of times we learn our lessons the hard way. LIMIT, LIMIT, LIMIT! (Among other things).
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

where do people get his stuff?

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

FYI..........all dog breeders/kennel owners are bashed. most all of the reports are 99% false. we have raised many many happy healthy puppies. All puppies sold in pet stores and internet are from kennels. some large some small. the care quality and health of the puppy is what matters. If you don't want a puppy from a kennel don't buy off the internet, or the pet shops, simple as that. pcrabtree
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#3 Consumer Comment

PAT CRABTREE IS RUNNING A PUPPY MILL

AUTHOR: Stop Puppy Mills Now!!!!! - (U.S.A.)

Pat Crabtree is a greeder not a breeder!! There is information all over the internet that links PAT CRABTREE to all the chartacteristics of a puppy mill owner. She claims to be a reputable breeder of yorkies ONLY. I have a brussels griffon that was born on MAY 1, 2008, and has Pat Crabtree @ 1525 RD 0, St. Francis, KS 67756 USDA 48A 1530 listed as the breeder. If she only breeds yorkies, how did I end up with a brussels griffon. She sells many breeds of dogs to Pixy Pals in Nebraska, who then distributes them to various pet stores around the country.

Pat Crabtree, with the address listed above has also been completely banned from the AKC due to falsification of records for three different breeds. Again, if you check Pat's website, she claims to only breed yorkies.

Pat Crabtree can also be found online on a dog auction advertisement where she is unloading 10 different breeds of dog. She must of been looking to replenish her stock at her puppy mill, which she claims to not own.
Pat Crabtree is displaying herself falsely. She is a liar. Pat Crabtree is running a puppy mill and needs to be stopped. This is animal abuse. She has no love for any breed. She even attempted to have a person by the name of Ashlea Rhea attempt to obtain AKC dog licenses for her. Check the AKC website. Everything can be verified.
Pat Crabtree stop abusing animals!!! You are a sick person and your animal services are not legit.!
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#4 Consumer Comment

PAT CRABTREE IS RUNNING A PUPPY MILL

AUTHOR: Stop Puppy Mills Now!!!!! - (U.S.A.)

Pat Crabtree is a greeder not a breeder!! There is information all over the internet that links PAT CRABTREE to all the chartacteristics of a puppy mill owner. She claims to be a reputable breeder of yorkies ONLY. I have a brussels griffon that was born on MAY 1, 2008, and has Pat Crabtree @ 1525 RD 0, St. Francis, KS 67756 USDA 48A 1530 listed as the breeder. If she only breeds yorkies, how did I end up with a brussels griffon. She sells many breeds of dogs to Pixy Pals in Nebraska, who then distributes them to various pet stores around the country.

Pat Crabtree, with the address listed above has also been completely banned from the AKC due to falsification of records for three different breeds. Again, if you check Pat's website, she claims to only breed yorkies.

Pat Crabtree can also be found online on a dog auction advertisement where she is unloading 10 different breeds of dog. She must of been looking to replenish her stock at her puppy mill, which she claims to not own.
Pat Crabtree is displaying herself falsely. She is a liar. Pat Crabtree is running a puppy mill and needs to be stopped. This is animal abuse. She has no love for any breed. She even attempted to have a person by the name of Ashlea Rhea attempt to obtain AKC dog licenses for her. Check the AKC website. Everything can be verified.
Pat Crabtree stop abusing animals!!! You are a sick person and your animal services are not legit.!
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

my response to ms. calhan is the same as i had told her several times when she called my cell phone.......
my niece was visiting from eastern ks. a couple years ago, she was in search of a yorkie for a house pet.
i have a kennel in nw kansas. i do raise yorkshire terriers. at that time i did not have a yorkie available. she found an add in the newspaper on some yorkies.

i called a woman named virginia, she offered a puppy or an adult female that had had surgery on her leg, but had been living in the house with her and many many other dogs. i spoke to her on the phone and set up a time for my niece to meet her.
they met in some small town in colorado, she took the adult female. i did not look at the paperwork she returned with.

a short time later she called me and told me the dog was to be spayed as she had had a broken leg. i called my niece and asked her to call this woman and let her know she had spayed this dog. they were in the process of moving at this point and she assured me she would be in touch with her.( young people are not always as responsible as they should be)

i do not think she ever returned her call. in one of virginia's many calls i tried to assure her this dog would not be used for breeding.
i have sold many puppies in colorado, i hope most people are happy with the pet they purchased from my breeding program but with virginia being a breeder herselfi am sure understands that not every single puppy born is the same quality. all puppies are priced by quality and size.

i have what i feel is a nice kennel facility. i have raised yorkies for 16 years. i keep my own puppies back for my breeding program. i am state licensed and also usda licensed. virginia breeds and sells dogs for profit. i guess that would make her "a puppy mill" if that is her opinion of what a puppy mill is? i believe it is a breeder that is producing unhealthy puppies in a sub-standard facility. that is up to the inspectors to make that call.

i believe there is a demand for healthy purebred dogs. i try to do this as professionally as i can and we try to do the best job we can to keep all of our animals healthy and content.
i will not touch the subject of the parti-colored yorkies!! i have done extensive research on the dogs. they are the "REAL DEAL" and bueatiful dogs.

i believe virginia owes me an apology.
virginia was not at all "ripped off", she was paid her asking price for a pet. i don't think there was any mention of her not being paid?
i wish virginia much success with her dogs. we do share a love for the breed.
i still am not sure where she came up with the names she used but they are not correct.

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

my response to ms. calhan is the same as i had told her several times when she called my cell phone.......
my niece was visiting from eastern ks. a couple years ago, she was in search of a yorkie for a house pet.
i have a kennel in nw kansas. i do raise yorkshire terriers. at that time i did not have a yorkie available. she found an add in the newspaper on some yorkies.

i called a woman named virginia, she offered a puppy or an adult female that had had surgery on her leg, but had been living in the house with her and many many other dogs. i spoke to her on the phone and set up a time for my niece to meet her.
they met in some small town in colorado, she took the adult female. i did not look at the paperwork she returned with.

a short time later she called me and told me the dog was to be spayed as she had had a broken leg. i called my niece and asked her to call this woman and let her know she had spayed this dog. they were in the process of moving at this point and she assured me she would be in touch with her.( young people are not always as responsible as they should be)

i do not think she ever returned her call. in one of virginia's many calls i tried to assure her this dog would not be used for breeding.
i have sold many puppies in colorado, i hope most people are happy with the pet they purchased from my breeding program but with virginia being a breeder herselfi am sure understands that not every single puppy born is the same quality. all puppies are priced by quality and size.

i have what i feel is a nice kennel facility. i have raised yorkies for 16 years. i keep my own puppies back for my breeding program. i am state licensed and also usda licensed. virginia breeds and sells dogs for profit. i guess that would make her "a puppy mill" if that is her opinion of what a puppy mill is? i believe it is a breeder that is producing unhealthy puppies in a sub-standard facility. that is up to the inspectors to make that call.

i believe there is a demand for healthy purebred dogs. i try to do this as professionally as i can and we try to do the best job we can to keep all of our animals healthy and content.
i will not touch the subject of the parti-colored yorkies!! i have done extensive research on the dogs. they are the "REAL DEAL" and bueatiful dogs.

i believe virginia owes me an apology.
virginia was not at all "ripped off", she was paid her asking price for a pet. i don't think there was any mention of her not being paid?
i wish virginia much success with her dogs. we do share a love for the breed.
i still am not sure where she came up with the names she used but they are not correct.

pat
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#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds

poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

my response to ms. calhan is the same as i had told her several times when she called my cell phone.......
my niece was visiting from eastern ks. a couple years ago, she was in search of a yorkie for a house pet.
i have a kennel in nw kansas. i do raise yorkshire terriers. at that time i did not have a yorkie available. she found an add in the newspaper on some yorkies.

i called a woman named virginia, she offered a puppy or an adult female that had had surgery on her leg, but had been living in the house with her and many many other dogs. i spoke to her on the phone and set up a time for my niece to meet her.
they met in some small town in colorado, she took the adult female. i did not look at the paperwork she returned with.

a short time later she called me and told me the dog was to be spayed as she had had a broken leg. i called my niece and asked her to call this woman and let her know she had spayed this dog. they were in the process of moving at this point and she assured me she would be in touch with her.( young people are not always as responsible as they should be)

i do not think she ever returned her call. in one of virginia's many calls i tried to assure her this dog would not be used for breeding.
i have sold many puppies in colorado, i hope most people are happy with the pet they purchased from my breeding program but with virginia being a breeder herselfi am sure understands that not every single puppy born is the same quality. all puppies are priced by quality and size.

i have what i feel is a nice kennel facility. i have raised yorkies for 16 years. i keep my own puppies back for my breeding program. i am state licensed and also usda licensed. virginia breeds and sells dogs for profit. i guess that would make her "a puppy mill" if that is her opinion of what a puppy mill is? i believe it is a breeder that is producing unhealthy puppies in a sub-standard facility. that is up to the inspectors to make that call.

i believe there is a demand for healthy purebred dogs. i try to do this as professionally as i can and we try to do the best job we can to keep all of our animals healthy and content.
i will not touch the subject of the parti-colored yorkies!! i have done extensive research on the dogs. they are the "REAL DEAL" and bueatiful dogs.

i believe virginia owes me an apology.
virginia was not at all "ripped off", she was paid her asking price for a pet. i don't think there was any mention of her not being paid?
i wish virginia much success with her dogs. we do share a love for the breed.
i still am not sure where she came up with the names she used but they are not correct.

pat
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

poor virginia does not have her facts straight.

AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)

my response to ms. calhan is the same as i had told her several times when she called my cell phone.......
my niece was visiting from eastern ks. a couple years ago, she was in search of a yorkie for a house pet.
i have a kennel in nw kansas. i do raise yorkshire terriers. at that time i did not have a yorkie available. she found an add in the newspaper on some yorkies.

i called a woman named virginia, she offered a puppy or an adult female that had had surgery on her leg, but had been living in the house with her and many many other dogs. i spoke to her on the phone and set up a time for my niece to meet her.
they met in some small town in colorado, she took the adult female. i did not look at the paperwork she returned with.

a short time later she called me and told me the dog was to be spayed as she had had a broken leg. i called my niece and asked her to call this woman and let her know she had spayed this dog. they were in the process of moving at this point and she assured me she would be in touch with her.( young people are not always as responsible as they should be)

i do not think she ever returned her call. in one of virginia's many calls i tried to assure her this dog would not be used for breeding.
i have sold many puppies in colorado, i hope most people are happy with the pet they purchased from my breeding program but with virginia being a breeder herselfi am sure understands that not every single puppy born is the same quality. all puppies are priced by quality and size.

i have what i feel is a nice kennel facility. i have raised yorkies for 16 years. i keep my own puppies back for my breeding program. i am state licensed and also usda licensed. virginia breeds and sells dogs for profit. i guess that would make her "a puppy mill" if that is her opinion of what a puppy mill is? i believe it is a breeder that is producing unhealthy puppies in a sub-standard facility. that is up to the inspectors to make that call.

i believe there is a demand for healthy purebred dogs. i try to do this as professionally as i can and we try to do the best job we can to keep all of our animals healthy and content.
i will not touch the subject of the parti-colored yorkies!! i have done extensive research on the dogs. they are the "REAL DEAL" and bueatiful dogs.

i believe virginia owes me an apology.
virginia was not at all "ripped off", she was paid her asking price for a pet. i don't think there was any mention of her not being paid?
i wish virginia much success with her dogs. we do share a love for the breed.
i still am not sure where she came up with the names she used but they are not correct.

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