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Complaint Review: Zamora/mastery martial arts

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  • Submitted: Thu, April 12, 2012
  • Updated: Thu, April 12, 2012

  • Reported By: Jyothi swarup — Mcallen Texas United States of America
Zamora/mastery martial arts
Nolan a avenue Mcallen, Texas United States of America

Zamora/mastery martial arts McAllen texas Made me sign a contract through member solutions. Now they tell me this ia a binding contract and have been forcing me to pay them for the whole of last year. My son hated the classes there and droppe Mcallen, Texas

*Consumer Comment: I think I know why your son doesn't understand contracts.

*Author of original report: Rebuttal to Mr. Good Grief

*Consumer Comment: Who signed?

*Consumer Comment: 2 IFs.

*Consumer Comment: Good grief!

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My son signed a contract with mastery martial arts. My son hates the classes in 2 months after joining. These people are forcing me to pay them and i did pay for the whole of last year. I feel they are unethical individuals and should not do this to families. Member solutions is clearly in collusion with these organizations. When u ask how u could cancel e drugging, member solutions refers u to mastery martial arts and mastery martial arts refers u to member solutions. I need to stop this contract. I am looking fir an attorney to help me.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/12/2012 06:42 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Zamoramastery-martial-arts/Mcallen-Texas-78504/Zamoramastery-martial-arts-McAllen-texas-Made-me-sign-a-contract-through-member-solutions-867450. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

I think I know why your son doesn't understand contracts.

AUTHOR: Flynrider - (USA)

" As far as the contract is concerned, I believe it is wrong for these agencies to make us sign contracts and make us pay the whole amount when we cancel. "

  You're missing an important point.   No one can make you sign a contract.   It is a voluntary agreement.

" When the contract was signed, we were not explained that it was a binding contract.  "

  Are you serious?   Have you ever heard of a non-binding contract?   Now you're just being silly.

" It was signed in good faith, not reading the fine print.  "

  Let me explain something to you.  As an adult, you are able to enter into contracts.  A contract is a binding agreement between you and the other party.   By signing your name, you are agreeing to what it says on the contract.   By not reading what you are signing, you have no idea what sort of commitment you are making.    This does not make the martial arts place bad.  It makes you willfully ignorant and uninformed.  

"   I really wish I could find some legal recourse to avoid paying this.  "

   In my post above, I mentioned that you have every legal recourse to avoid paying this, since you say it was not you that signed the contract.
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#2 Author of original report

Rebuttal to Mr. Good Grief

AUTHOR: Jyothi swarup - (United States of America)

First of all, I was using my iphone and I have no clue as to why my whole complaint was represented so badly.  My english is just fine and I dont need any correction.  So please bear with me.  As far as the contract is concerned, I believe it is wrong for these agencies to make us sign contracts and make us pay the whole amount when we cancel.  I know that this is a binding contract and that I am bound by law to do so.  This is what a binding contract means. 

When the contract was signed, we were not explained that it was a binding contract.  It was signed in good faith, not reading the fine print.   We really thought that our son liked the classes, but he hated it the very first month.  I am still paying for the classes.  I really wish I could find some legal recourse to avoid paying this. I have also told a lot of our friends about the dangers of binding contracts and the risks involved.  This is a lesson for me and my family.  That is all I have to say.   
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#3 Consumer Comment

Who signed?

AUTHOR: Flynrider - (USA)

" My son signed a contract with mastery martial arts.  " 

   You have to be 18 to sign a contract.   If you son is 18 or older, then he is legally capable of entering into a binding agreement.

" My son hates the classes in 2 months after joining.  "

  This makes him sound like a 12 yr. old.  Did he really sign a long term contract without trying out the service?   Did he even consider how he would get out of that commitment if it turned out he didn't like it?

"  These people are forcing me to pay them and i did pay for the whole of last year.  "

  Here's where things don't make sense.   They can't force you to pay anything.   You didn't sign the contract, your son did.   Again, if your son was not old enough to legally sign the contract, then the contract is void and unenforcable. Nobody has to pay.   If your son was old enough to enter into a contract, then he is responsible.   Either way, no one can "force" you to pay anything.

" I need to stop this contract. "

  Have you sat down and read the contract?  Most service contracts have a cancellation clause in them.  Generally, you have to pay a penalty to cancel, but it's usually less expensive than paying off the entire term of the contract.   In the rare event that this contract has no cancellation policy, then your son will be on the hook for the balance of the payments on the contract.   That's basically what the contract is.  An agreement to pay $xx over yy months.

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#4 Consumer Comment

2 IFs.

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

IF #1.  IF your son was 18 years of age or older when he signed this contract, HE is responsible for it-NOT YOU.  I wouldn't pay a dime-they have no legal means to hold you responsible for the contract HE signed.  Let them go after him for the payments. He's probably young enough that this one bad mark on his credit will have little or no impact on his life if he doesn't make payment arrangements.  You should also require him to repay YOU for the payments you have made.  This is a golden opportunity to teach him about contracts; to READ and COMPREHEND EVERYTHING stated in the contract BEFORE signing.  It is also an good opportunity to teach him that mom and dad aren't going to bail him out of every unpleasant situation he CREATES for himself.

IF #2.  IF your son was 17 years of age or younger when he signed the contract, then it is very likely the contract is unenforceable-a minor child cannot enter into a binding contract with any business.  In this case the contract is VOID and you as his parent/guardian need to remind them of this and assert to them that it won't be paid and any delinquent credit reporting will be considered a deliberate act to inflict emotional and economic harm and will be dealt with by the proper courts and authorities.

The exception would be if your minor child were declared an "emancipated minor" by a court of competent jurisdiction.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Good grief!

AUTHOR: voiceofreason - (United States of America)

1: How about contracting with a school to polish your English writing skills. They are very bad.

2: Look at your contract! What does it say? If indeed its terms bind you to pay X amount of dollars for X amount of time, then that's what y'all gotta do. That's what a contract is - A BINDING AGREEMENT to do or pay something for x amount of time!

3: How old is your son? Maybe he should be expected to see something through despite how much he dislikes it, instead of learning that mommy and daddy can pay out big bucks for activities contracts but if widdle junior doesn't likey, no problem, we'll just stop making him go and eat the wasted expense.

4: If the business is on the right side of the contract, no attorney can do anything for you but rip you off.
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