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Complaint Review: Advantage Techonologies And Advantage Rent To Own, LLC - Vail Arizona

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Ref: Advantage Rent to Own, LLC (Richard Friedberg) and Advantage Technologies (Mike Williams)

These Two Companies and their Owners who are each accusing eachother of being "Theives" have lots of explaining to do to the Investigative Authorities that will be looking at their joint venture that wiped out many Innocent "Victims" of their financial resources.

As stated in numerous reports under Advantage Rent to Own, LLC (Richard Friedberg's) "Scam" was to sell a licensing program to people that wanted to learn how to do Rent to own Homes within the housing industry.

Mike Williams and his company by his own admission, designed and developed the website for this "Scam" company which was then used by ARTO and Friedberg to "Scam" Hundreds of thousands of dollars from innocent "VICTIMS".

As stated above in the report by Mike Williams, he is aware of $300,000 or more in revenues coming into ARTO which apparently Mike Williams was to receive a percentage for his website development so take a minute to think about where those revenues were coming from....Answer.. "INNOCENT VICTIMS!

It is now known that as few as 35 and perhaps as many as 100 or more people invested anywhere from $2,000 to as much as $100,000 to get into this opportunity (Scam") that we now all know had no track record of success and the concept as it was developed is in fact "ILLEGAL" in many states that have laws and regulations with regards to the rent to own of homes.

I actually invested and was also appointed as an Executive of ARTO and my investement was collateralized by ARTO and Richard Friedberg all assets of the company in the event of default or breach of Agreement and this in fact happened before the ink on the Agreement was dry.

One of the only assets that could possibly be recovered was in fact the very domain name and website of ARTO that Advantage Technologies(Mike Williams) has in fact taken control over without any Legal authority and he now expects me to pay waht Richard Friedberg allegedly owes him.

Where I come from that is called Extortion!

He makes the rediculous statements in his rebuttals against me that if someone sold you the Taj Majal and they didn't own it then would you sue them. The answer is that I will seek my assets from whomever I believe is holding them and if they are owed monies from another Party then that is who they should seek those monies from.....Not Me!

Think about the other side for just a moment, if a Bank has John Doe's car as collateral and that loan is defaulted so they repossess the car, does the Bank then owe all of John Doe's debts simply because they seized the car that was pledged as collateral???

That is exactly what occured here. The battle over the alleged debt by and between Richard Friedberg and Mike Williams is no concern over me but the domain and website has been illegally seized and is being held for a ransom by Mike Williams because I have a valid Agreement signed on 05/09/2008 pledging the website specifically and all backend docs and support thereof if a Breach or default occured and that happened effective 05/10/2008 forward when I received absolutely nothing as promised by ARTO and its owner-founder Richard Friedberg.

If you are an INNOCENT VICTIM" of this scam and/or was ever approached or contacted by ARTO or Friedberg and/or responded to a job posting @ career builder.com or monster.com and you want to join in the "VICTIMS" group criminal complaint against all involved in this "Scam" by ARTO, Friedberg et al then please send your info to Dencotx@satx.rr.com and/or Nmeftah@hotmail.com so we can get your info and also register on the www.ripoffreports.com website and post your own complaint so the story gets circulated.

Thank You and we are all sorry for any loss this "SCAM" may have caused you and your family.

Denny (s.a. tx.)
Converse, Texas
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/23/2008 07:13 AM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/advantage-techonologies-and-advantage-rent-to-own-llc/vail-arizona/advantage-techonologies-and-advantage-rent-to-own-llc-advantage-rent-to-own-and-advantage-375279. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content

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Advantage Technologies and Mike Williams...Notice: I may be a Whiner but I can sleep at Night, How about You???

AUTHOR: Denny (s.a. Tx.) - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, September 26, 2008

Important Notice to All Clients of Advantage Technologies and Mike Williams.

I hope all Investigative Authorities are taking Notice of all the complaints, updates and rebuttals pertaining to the parties in bed together in this "Scam".

Please take sometime to read all the complaints against the following parties who were entertwined and in a business relationship which involved a Con Artist and a Company that 'Scammed' hudreds of thousands of dollars from Innocent 'VICTIMS'.

Check out all stories posted against: Advantage Technologies, Mike Williams, Advantage Rent to Own, LLC, and Richard Friedberg.

Then I would suggest going to the website @ Advantage Rent to Own and a dot com site....check it out and see for yourself the Notice posted by Mike Williams which is holding this website for a Kings Ransom of $31,000.

This could happen to any client of Advantage Technologies and Mike Williams if and when a relationship goes sour and he decides to yank control over your website as a Get Even Tactic.

Mike Williams reacted without giving any care or thought to the people that actually invested considerable amounts of money for the use of that site that had nothing to do with the feud by and between Richard Friedberg and Mike Williams.

Mike Williams knew of this supposed Business Model and System of Advantage Rent to Own and he had full knowledge that 25,35,50 or more innocent people would be effected by his virtually shutting down the website and posting the notice on the Home page as he did and he simply DID NOT CARE!

If I were a client of Advantage Technologies and Mike Williams, I would cancel my contract and move my website to another hosting service and/or this could all happen to you as well.

These are my personal opinions and its up to each and every client to do their own research and make their own choices but I would consider all the written complaints on www.ripoffreport.com involving these entertwined parties and protect yourselves and protect your company and its assets.

Denny (s.a. tx.)
Converse, Texas
U.S.A.

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Response to Mike Williams-Advantage Technologies Rebuttal...."We shall see How many complaints come forth against you..Iam far from the only One"!

AUTHOR: Denny (s.a. Tx.) - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 25, 2008

Mike Wiillams...come clean and you shall be set free!

Why not write what really happened here. I first contact you when I learned you had taken control of the domain and website that I held as collateral against the company involved and I attempted to have a freindly dialog on how we, (You and I) could jointly do something to protect those innocent investors who relied upon the webiste as at the least a managerial tool and second so we could "jointly redesign the site to both notify those that were "Scammed" by Richard Friedberg et al but also redirect the site to a newly registered domain which I registered which I even proposed discussing a partnership arrangement with you.

Your response was simply that if I wanted to pay you the alleged $31,000 that Richard Friedberg owed you that you would discuss this with me otherwise you made it perfectly clear that you controlled and owned both the domain site and the website and hosting and you had no interest in my situation and/or anyother "VICTIMS" situation and this was and is the Fact!

Understand this....just because nobody but you and I are posting things on this site back and forth therefore, you somehow feel nobody feels betrayed by you, YOU ARE WRONG!!!

Because of what you have done in your back and forth communications with me, you have in fact turned many many people against you that you think remain in your corner. (THEY DO NOT!!!)

I don't even know you but your involvement with ARTO and Richard Friedberg and your taking control of assets that were pledged to myself as collateral and the fact you stayed with Richard Friedberg for over 16 months clearly rasies questions and you "WILL BE" a subject of any investigation into this "Scam" regardless of your plea of ignorance and innocence.

You state in your rebuttal that for $50 I could have and should've done a background check so, if you were owed $31,000 over a 16 month billing period, why didn't you do that $50 back ground check?

Lots and Lots of innocent "VICTIMS" got "Scammed" out of hundreds of thousands of dollars so are you calling everybody stupid and getting what they deserved because they didn't do their due diligence????

With every positing you make at this site, you look less and less credable.

You now are in control of a website that nobody has access to and has a value only to you at this point so enjoy your $31,000 website. (Anybody that would pay 50 cents for what you call "Your" site would be crazy!!!)

This website a week ago could have been a way to serve those that lost their investments while serving a purpose for a legitimate type way for people to rent or buy homes that met state compliances etc but you chose to take the low road instead of the high road.

When I am all done Whinning as you put it, Justice will Prevail!!!

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Response to Mike Williams-Advantage Technologies Rebuttal...."We shall see How many complaints come forth against you..Iam far from the only One"!

AUTHOR: Denny (s.a. Tx.) - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 25, 2008

Mike Wiillams...come clean and you shall be set free!

Why not write what really happened here. I first contact you when I learned you had taken control of the domain and website that I held as collateral against the company involved and I attempted to have a freindly dialog on how we, (You and I) could jointly do something to protect those innocent investors who relied upon the webiste as at the least a managerial tool and second so we could "jointly redesign the site to both notify those that were "Scammed" by Richard Friedberg et al but also redirect the site to a newly registered domain which I registered which I even proposed discussing a partnership arrangement with you.

Your response was simply that if I wanted to pay you the alleged $31,000 that Richard Friedberg owed you that you would discuss this with me otherwise you made it perfectly clear that you controlled and owned both the domain site and the website and hosting and you had no interest in my situation and/or anyother "VICTIMS" situation and this was and is the Fact!

Understand this....just because nobody but you and I are posting things on this site back and forth therefore, you somehow feel nobody feels betrayed by you, YOU ARE WRONG!!!

Because of what you have done in your back and forth communications with me, you have in fact turned many many people against you that you think remain in your corner. (THEY DO NOT!!!)

I don't even know you but your involvement with ARTO and Richard Friedberg and your taking control of assets that were pledged to myself as collateral and the fact you stayed with Richard Friedberg for over 16 months clearly rasies questions and you "WILL BE" a subject of any investigation into this "Scam" regardless of your plea of ignorance and innocence.

You state in your rebuttal that for $50 I could have and should've done a background check so, if you were owed $31,000 over a 16 month billing period, why didn't you do that $50 back ground check?

Lots and Lots of innocent "VICTIMS" got "Scammed" out of hundreds of thousands of dollars so are you calling everybody stupid and getting what they deserved because they didn't do their due diligence????

With every positing you make at this site, you look less and less credable.

You now are in control of a website that nobody has access to and has a value only to you at this point so enjoy your $31,000 website. (Anybody that would pay 50 cents for what you call "Your" site would be crazy!!!)

This website a week ago could have been a way to serve those that lost their investments while serving a purpose for a legitimate type way for people to rent or buy homes that met state compliances etc but you chose to take the low road instead of the high road.

When I am all done Whinning as you put it, Justice will Prevail!!!

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DENNY HUSTON, JUST A WHINER AND A COMPLAINER

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, September 24, 2008

Richard Friedberg, without my knowledge, apparently signed a contract assigning Denny Huston as the owner of the website - a website that was NEVER PAID FOR. Richard claimed the website as an asset, when it never was owned by Richard or paid for. I don't know why I'm even WASTING MY TIME responding because Denny's complaint with ME is ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

Denny, my only question for you is if Richard gave you a contract to give you 100% ownership of the Taj Mahal, would you fly to India and sue the owners? Wake up and realize that you were scammed by Richard. Take your case up with Richard - he is primarily to blame, and second in line is yourself. You never even bothered to do due diligence and therefore you are partially to blame for signing this fraudulent contract. Stop putting your blame on me, and focus your blame on WHO wrote this contract with you. First, did Richard force you to sign in? No, you agreed to sign it. Next, did MY signature appear anywhere on that contract? No, of course not, because I would have never signed anything so ridiculous.

You fail to see the BIG picture. As for the $300,000 in revenue, it was only a guess. Richard and Rimona were controlling the books and the money in the company. Since I was "supposedly" a 10% partner, I asked for 2007 accounting records maybe 5 times in early 2008. Those records were NEVER produced. As for revenue received by Richard, only his bank knows what that is. I'm fairly sure the IRS doesn't even know either.

How could I seize something that was never owned by Richard and never paid for? In one email you tell me the website is worthless, but if the website really is worthless why are you spending all of your valuable time trying to claim it? Like I said before, nobody gets a free ride. As long as we're living in the good ole USA, you need to pay for a product or service before it's delivered. According to your fraudulent contract, it says you inherit Richard's assets and none of his debt. Using that logic, that's fine. The website was never Richard's asset. If you bothered to check the domain registry you would have seen it was never owned by Richard.

Denny, you are the only person complaining against ME. Everybody else seems to have a full understand that Richard is responsible for this business. Richard made the sale, collected the money, made the promises. If you want control of the website you can take over my billing to Richard. Like I stated before, the website was never an asset of Richard's and therefore he had no right to offer it to you. I was simply his vendor and he defaulted.

I hope you sue Richard for creating this fraudulent contract. Also don't forget that I never signed it or even knew about it until a few days ago. You are partially to blame for not doing your due diligence. You could have done a background check on Richard for $50. You could have called me, the website developer, and I would have told you Richard was way behind on his billing. Take some responsibility for your actions. Don't you think that would have been important to check these things out before signing a contract??? What were you thinking???

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