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  • Submitted: Sun, December 15, 2013
  • Updated: Sun, December 15, 2013

  • Reported By: Yoshie Yamamoto — Provo Utah
Andy Baechler
2700 Campus Drive Plymouth, MN 55441 Plymouth, Minnesota USA

Andy Baechler Andrew Baechler Andy Baechler, cocaine addiction causes destroys lives of distributors in Eniva Nutraceuticals, now Vibe Global Plymouth Minnesota

*Consumer Comment: Mr. j Yamamoto - you are a liar

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: RIPOFF REPORT REBUTTAL FROM MR. ANDREW BAECHLER IN RESPONSE TO THE REPORT POSTED ON DECEMBER 15, 2013 BY MR. YOSHIE YAMAMOTO (PROVO, UT / JAPAN)

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Andy Baechler, (actual name, Andrew Baechler), along with his brother, Dr. Benjamine Baecheler (better known as Dr. Ben Baechler or Dr. Ben), have fraudulently terminated over 60 distributors including but not limited to Randy Allen, and many others. Andy, with his elaborate lifestyle and addiction to drugs, such as cocaine, spending time in Brazil on 150' yachts having drug parties, etc., along with his hidden homosexual lifestyle, has created a huge money problem for Eniva (now know as Vibe Global). Eniva file bankruptcy two years ago due to his lavish spending and lack of management skills.
Recently Andy terminated the top distributor for Japan, a female leader by the name of Ms. Hara and her American partner, Mr. Welch (Eniva, also known as Vibe Global), and when doing so, he sent character damaging letters throughout the Japan market. In these damaging letters he fabricated rumors about the charactrer of Ms. [continued below]....

..... Hara, accusing her of being a protitute prior to her history in Network Marketing. Everyone who knows Ms. Hara would verify this rumor is false and misleading. The purpose for these letters were to destroy her character and professional image in Japan.
Eniva has rebranded their image as Vibe Global Network in some markets.
Andy Baechler has taken commissions from distributors from Japan leaders. He continuously sends character damaging reports about Ms. Hara, Mr. Welch, and Mr. Katanuma to destroy their image in Japan and to sway distributor loyalty to hom instead.
Mr. Baechler has destroyed the lives of many people including terminating a female distributor in the United States, which is homeless now with two children. He also terminate a blind man. He edged out one of the original investors and owners of the company which is an elderly couple who believed in Andy Baechler and Dr. Ben Baechler, leaving them with no ownership or income in their senior years. Mr. Baechler lost his legal battle with Randy Allen, former top distributor at Eniva. Andy also took most of the income away from other distributors that were not terminated.
Andy Baechler manipulates pastors in the Spanish speaking markets of New York City, and Miami, Florida to make them think he is a good and godly man who is using them as his mentors. However, he is taking advantage of these pastors/preachers to gain quick drug money for his addictions and for special trips to Miami and Brazil where he hides his homosexual lifestyle and drug addictions. He returns from his trips to his home base in Minnesota, where he stays in bed extended days to recover. His family member that work in the business continuously cover for his problems, making excuses for his behavior.
Numerous reports are on the desk of the Minnesota Attorney General's office for credit card fraud. Andy has charged distributor's credit cards for charges they did not approve, and he continues to do so.
Andy Baechler is destroying the character of innocent people in Japan and other countries. Andy is stealing commissions from distributors. Andy has a huge drug problem. Andy is homosexual and needs to be open about it and quit hiding behind his Brazilian girlfriend. Andy is committing credit card fraud. This man is a complete crook and evil man.
- Mr. Yoshie Yamamoto, Japan


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#1 Consumer Comment

Mr. j Yamamoto - you are a liar

AUTHOR: Raphaela - ()

Hello, my name is Rapha.

Mr. Yamamoto, I want you to know I'm impressed with your cowardice. You prove to the world how mean people can be, writing lies about others.

I've been having a daily relationship with Andrew for over 2 years and do not recognize any truth in what you wrote.

Andrew is an amazing man with values and integrity, like I've never seen before. 

I have seen with my own eyes the love and care he has expressed when dealing with people from Japan, whom I have personally met, with Andrew.

This report is laughable. 

Sincerely,

Rapha

PS - Even your comment about my boat is humorous... it is unfortunately smaller than 150-feet.

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

RIPOFF REPORT REBUTTAL FROM MR. ANDREW BAECHLER IN RESPONSE TO THE REPORT POSTED ON DECEMBER 15, 2013 BY MR. YOSHIE YAMAMOTO (PROVO, UT / JAPAN)

AUTHOR: Andrew Baechler - ()

BEFORE PRESENTING A REFUTATION OF AND A REBUTTAL TO, ALLEGATION BY ALLEGATION, THE MALICIOUSLY LIBELOUS AND DEFAMATORY STATEMENTS THAT WERE POSTED BY MR. YAMAMOTO, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT RELATIVE TO THE RIPOFF REPORT AND THE MANNER IN WHICH IT CONDUCTS ITS “BUSINESS”.

THE RIPOFF REPORT PURPORTS TO BE AN INSTRUMENT THAT PROTECTS THE FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOM OF SPEECH OF INDIVIDUAL COMSUMERS, AND PROVIDES THOSE CONSUMERS WITH AN OUTLET TO MAKE AVAILABLE INFORMATION RELATING TO UNLAWFUL AND/OR IMPROPER BUSINESS PRACTICES.  THIS IS CERTAINLY A LAUDABLE OBJECTIVE. 

HOWEVER, EVEN THE FIRST AMENDMENT HAS LIMITS (EXAMPLE–YOU CANNOT YELL FIRE IN A CROWDED THEATRE).   THEREFORE, THE PRACTICE OF ALLOWING UNKNOWN, AND TO A SIGNIFICANT EXTENT ANONYMOUS, INDIVIDUALS THE ABILITY TO LEVEL THE MOST DISPARAGING, PEJORATIVE AND OBNOXIOUS ACCUSATIONS WITHOUT THE REQUIREMENT OF PRESENTING AN IOTA OF EVIDENCE, PROOF OR SUBSTANTIATION IS NOT A LEGITIMATE APPLICATION OF FIRST AMENDMENT PRINCIPLES, OR FOR THAT MATTER, PRINCIPLES OF JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE "SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT/ARBITRATION PROGRAM" SUGGESTED BY THE RIPOFF REPORT DOES NOT PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE PROCESS FOR THE TARGET OF A FALSE AND/OR MALICIOUS ALLEGATION(S) TO REHABILITATE THEIR REPUTATION AND BUSINESS.  SPECIFICALLY, THE PROCESS HAS THE FOLLOWING SIGNIFICANT SHORTCOMINGS: (1) IT IMPOSES A $2,000.00 FEE ON THE SUBJECT OF THE REPORT; (2) THE SUBJECT OF THE REPORT BEARS THE BURDEN OF PROOF THAT THE REPORT IS FALSE.  TO THE CONTRARY, THE PERSON SUBMITTING THE REPORT HAS NO OBLIGATION TO SUBSTANTIATE THEIR CLAIMS (IN FACT, THE SUBMITTER OF THE REPORT IS NOT EVEN REQUIRED TO HAVE PERSONAL/FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THEY HAD SUBMITTED); (3) EVEN IF THE ARBITRATOR RULES PARTIALLY IN THE FAVOR OF THE SUBJECT OF THE REPORT, THAT FINDING DOES NOT ALLEIVATE THE POTENTIAL THAT THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE REPORT WERE, IN FACT, FALSE; AND, FINALLY,(4) SINCE THE SUBMITTER OF THE REPORT MAY REAMAIN ANONYMOUS, THEY CANNOT BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE DAMAGE, TO THE SUBJECT'S REPUTATION AND BUSINESS, THAT HAS BEEN CAUSED BY THEIR ERRONEOUS AND PEJORATIVE STATEMENTS.

WITH THAT SAID, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING THAT I CATEGORICALLY DENY EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED BY MR. YAMAMOTO.  UNLIKE OTHER “COMPLAINTS” THAT ARE SUBMITTED TO RIPOFF REPORT, THE PERSON SUBMITTING THIS COMPLAINT DOES NOT APPEAR, BASED ON THE CONTEXTUAL STRUCTURE OF THE SUBMISSION, TO HAVE EVER HAD ANY PERSONAL, FIRST-HAND EXPOSURE, COMMUNICATION AND/OR INVOLVEMENT WITH ENIVA, THE VIBE GLOBAL ORGANIZATION OR MYSELF, RELATIVE TO THE TOPICS NOTED. HE MUST THEN, BY LOGICAL INFERRENCE, BE BASING HIS ALLEGATIONS ON SECOND-HAND (OR MAYBE THIRD OR FOURTH HAND) MISINFORMATION. HE CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE A KNOWLEDGE BASE GROUNDED IN FIRST HAND FACTS. 

GIVEN THAT MR. YAMAMOTO LIVES IN UTAH (OR PERHAPS JAPAN, HE DOES NOT SEEM TO KNOW FOR SURE), HIS ABILITY TO MAKE PRONOUNCEMENTS ON MATTERS THAT HE CANNOT POSSIBLY HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE (AND ALMOST CERTAINLY NO SECOND-HAND KNOWLEDGE), SUCH AS WHAT “MR. BAECHLER” DID OR DID NOT DO IN BRAZIL OR THE DETAILS OF MY “LIFESTYLE”, BORDERS ON THE LUDICROUS AND THE ABSURD.

BASED ON THE COMPLETE LACK OF OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT AND/OR SUBSTANTIATE MR. YAMAMOTO’S ALLEGATIONS, AND HIS OBVIOUS INTENT TO DAMAGE MY PERSONAL AND BUSINESS REPUTATION, AS WELL AS THAT OF THE ENIVA AND VIBE GLOBAL ORGANIZATIONS, I HESITATE TO INVEST THE TIME AND ENERGY TO PRESENT COUNTER ARGUMENTS.  HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF THE VILE AND PERNICIOUS NATURE OF THIS ATTACK, I MUST OFFER A RESPONSE.

DUE TO THE RAMBLING, AND OFTEN REPETITIOUS, STRUTURE OF THE SUBMISSION IT IS DIFFICULT TO RESPOND TO THE ALLEGATIONS IN A POINT BY POINT MANNER.  THEREFORE, I WILL ADDRESS THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE APPROXIMATE ORDER THEY ARE PRESENTED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT ARE ATTACKS ON ME, PERSONALLY, SINCE THEY ARE 100% FALSE AND TOO CONTEMPTIBLE TO DESERVE A CIVIL RESPONSE:

  • ENIVA (NOR I) HAS NEVER FRAUDULENTLY TERMINATED A DISTRIBUTOR.

  • ENIVA’S BANKRUPTCY WAS NOT CAUSED BY ANY PERSONAL ACT. IT WAS THE RESULT OF A REAL ESTATE/MANUFACTURING PLANT PROJECT THAT WAS NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY CHANGES IN THE ECONOMY AND REAL ESTATE MARKETS.

  • MS. HARA WAS TERMINATED FOR CAUSE.

  • MR. WELCH WAS RELIEVED OF HIS CONSULTING/LEADERSHIP ROLE TO THE COMPANY BASED ON PERFORMANCE CRITERIA.

  • NO ‘CHARACTER DAMAGING’ LETTERS HAVE EVER BEEN SENT.

  • ENIVA HAS NOT DEPRIVED ANYONE OF COMMISSIONS WHICH THEY WERE DUE.

  • NEITHER ENIVA, NOR I, HAVE MANIPULATED ANYONE, ANYWHERE.

  • THE MINNESOTA ATTORNEY GENERAL IS NOT INVESTIGATING ENIVA.

    IN CLOSING, I WANT TO RE-ITERATE THAT THE ALLEGATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, RELATIVE TO ENIVA, VIBE GLOBAL AND MYSELF ARE COMPLETELY FALSE AND WITHOUT MERIT.  I OFFER THIS REBUTTAL WITH THE INTENT THAT SOME MEASURE OF JUSTICE AND TRUTH BE ACHIEVED, AND THAT THE READERSHIP OF YOUR REPORT WILL BE PROVIDED WITH ACCURATE INFORMATION RELATIVE TO THESE ALLEGATIONS.

    SINCERELY,

    ANDREW BAECHLER

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