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  • Submitted: Tue, July 22, 2003
  • Updated: Tue, October 05, 2010

  • Reported By:cape cod Massachusetts
Apex Marketing And Promotions
50 Garrett Rd. Upper Darby, Pennsylvania U.S.A.

Apex Marketing And Promotions, Inc. lies, deception, manipulation, exploitation Upper Darby Pennsylvania

*Consumer Comment: Was Almost Deceived!

*Consumer Comment: Back in Manyaunk as Blue Rock Partners

*Consumer Comment: Stefan is here in Philadelphia

*UPDATE Employee: just got the job and plan to screw over Stefan on my first day

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Stefan Strikes Again TWICE!!

*Author of original report: Search enging assault...

*Author of original report: New Web Site Etc.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: 3 years later... moved down to Florida Stefan Mainhart and Apex Marketing Strikes again!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Apex is EVIL

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Hey Ed... I just hope you take better care of your employees than any of the worthless managers I ever worked with did

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Worst job in the world

*Consumer Comment: APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

*Consumer Comment: APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

*Consumer Comment: APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

*Consumer Comment: SAVED BY RIP-OFF REPORT!!!

*UPDATE Employee: Universal Online Promotions NYC Office

*Consumer Comment: The Best Marketers I've ever used

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: department of Labor

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Some more truth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Some more truth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Some more truth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Some more truth

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Theresa... Good to see more people putting the truth out there about this scumbag.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Watch Out Florida- New Info. Lets get them shutdown.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look Out Florida, Apex Marketing and Promotions is coming!!!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: ex emplyee here, very happy to know your out of the business and coming to this website

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: has anyone else worked for this company?

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Apex Marketing and Promotions, Inc., an affiliate of Cydcor/DS-MAX is presented as a full scale management position. They say that you will be cross-trained in all aspects of the company but refuse to answer any questions about compensation and exact responsibilities. The first round interview is designed to paint a pretty picture of the business without reviewing any information about the actual position.

The second round interview entails cold calling for a full day with one of their "accout executives". They use scare tactics to make you feel that you are not good enough for this position. When really they will hire any bum off the street. They make you feel like shit in the process, cutting down your resume, challenging your work ethic and professionalism.

Meanwhile continuing to build up the position with promises of big money and owning your own company. Owning your own company is the crutch that the president of Apex stands on. the final interview is meant to put you on the defensive; arguing on your behalf for why you deserve the position(everone fights because their worth is being challenged, not necessarily because they want the position.)

This hiring tactic is manipulative and degrading and representative of the company as a whole. After the hiring process everyone acts like your best friend. Everyone is excited and will stop at nothing to shield the "new people" from the world of lies that surrounds them every moment of every day.

Secrecy and denial are the tools the manager uses to keep people there. They cut you off from the outside world,and consider parents, friends, and significant others as threats. Asking questions isn't allowed and is met with resistance and condecendance.(if you need to ask you must be stupid) The manager is a puppet controlled by a larger organization and his methods for doing business are calculated and unethical.

A person is not allowed to be sick or miss a day and is mentally abused if health or personal issues require him to do so. They try to build a relationship with you to keep you happy enough so that you don't realize that you are not making any money and are involved in a dishonest scam.

Apex, together with many other Cydcor affiliated franchises exploits the people who work there and the managers will stop at nothing to make sure this information is never brought to light. If you have any information about a company like this tell your friends, family, whoever is thinking about going on one of these interviews. STAY AWAY!! THE COUNTRY'S RESOURCE OF TALENTED YOUNG PROFESSIONALS IS BEING WASTED AND ABUSED!!!

Bob
upper darby, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/22/2003 06:26 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Apex-Marketing-And-Promotions/Upper-Darby-Pennsylvania-19082/Apex-Marketing-And-Promotions-Inc-lies-deception-manipulation-exploitation-Upper-Darb-64330. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Was Almost Deceived!

AUTHOR: Sunshine - (United States of America)

I'm a recent college graduate so I have been searching for jobs in the Philly area.  I saw an ad for this job on Career Builder for Marketing, which included a variety of majors. I didn't apply at first because it doesn't actually say what the job involves, and it specifically wants recent college graduates. Sounded suspicious to me. I even seen eerily similar ads online for different marketing companies around the country. 


I finally decided to apply yesterday and got a call today for an interview tomorrow. They didn't even say what the name of the company was, but asked if I could go in for an interview tomorrow. I hesitated, but said yes, since I'm without a job and wanted more information.



I went back to my email to see if the name of the company was in the message again. It was not. After receiving the address to the location, in Manayunk, I looked it up on Google Maps. It was in that moment that I found out the actual business name, Apex Marketing and Promotions, Inc. I got the impression that it was a big company with a lot going for itself.



I desperately googled so I could find more info, and that's when I stumbled across this site and read the appalling details that could have very well been me. Thank you VERY much for this information! It's safe to say that I will NOT be going for the interview tomorrow and I am cancelling it IMMEDIATELY!
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#2 Consumer Comment

Back in Manyaunk as Blue Rock Partners

AUTHOR: Heather - (United States of America)

I got the call about my resume, like all others here, and decided to just go and check it out. A 15 minute interview with no real answers just made my gut feeling screaming SCAM at me scream even louder. Plus the fact that I couldn't find any information besides the site http://www.bluerockpartners.net/ made me uneasy. I even mentioned to Stefan that I looked them up online and there was no information, which was unusual. He totally ignored my comment and gave me vague information about the company and whatnot. It took me searching the phone number they called me on to find this. They use the same number for at least 3 other "marketing company" names. Everything posted on here about the interview is correct. I will not show up for their "second interview - my time is more valuable than that.

Thanks to everyone on here and look out for Blue Rock Partners...another name change, but it's still Stefan.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Stefan is here in Philadelphia

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)

 


My friend almost went through with this scam.  Thankfully he consulted me before committing to this fraud, as i had read the ripoff reports on Amp Marketing (and Apex Marketing).  Here is the posting:


http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mar/1596435164.html


He's right here in Manayunk and easy to find.


 


ps.  you spelled "condecendance" incorrectly.  It is spelled "condescendence".

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#4 UPDATE Employee

just got the job and plan to screw over Stefan on my first day

AUTHOR: john t - (USA)



I was just hired Friday by AMP Marketing in Manyunk, PA.  Stefan hired me right after my second interview.  I was def excited and wanted to believe it was a good thing but thank god I did some research before I started.  I already had a full time job at a super market and was trying to get some real world marketing experience.  I was def shocked at how easy it was for me to get a job there (I have  pretty serious criminal charges against me).  I am going to try n beg for my job back at the supermarket.  

So my plan to screw over this Stefan d-bag is:

he recently just hired at least 3 or 4 people.
i'm gonna show up for my first day like everything is normal.
sit down in his little meeting and give everyone a copy of this page.
and ask Stefan to explain these accusations.  
Hopefully I will be able to save a few of his employees from this life draining scam.

Once again, this site saved me soooooo much n i am so grateful.

Sincerly,
John from Philly 
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Stefan Strikes Again TWICE!!

AUTHOR: Alfredmaybury1986 - (U.S.A.)

I was employed at AMP marketing in Philadelphia and I thought this was a great opportunity that sounded too good to be true. I trained with my Corporate Trainer who seemed career oriented but everything this person said from the morning introduction to just hanging out at the bar was scripted and deceptive. Myself being a former private eye decided to stay for a little bit to see if I could find out why it all seemed Strange. So my third week at the Manayunk office i was in the bathroom when I heard heavy breathing at the door. At first I acknowledged it as nothing but it continued for the duration of my bathroom use. When I exited the bathroom, I immediately noticed Stefan standing with a strange glare in his eye and he said "hey big guy, ready for good day", and then he stopped and looked back as he exited the room with an excited smile. From this point on I knew I was not giving two weeks notice.
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#6 Author of original report

Search enging assault...

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Apex Marketing and Promotions has launched a full scale assault to flood the internet with bogus "press reports" about how great the company and owner, Stefan Mainhart are.

The press releases go on and on about how they are a great marketing company, about how they can "help your business", and about toy drives that probably do not even exist.

How deperate Stefan has become in the wake of all of the real information that is posted about him and his company. These press releases are a continuation of the lies and deception that are normal everyday operations for these people. The internet is a powerful tool, they are using it as a smoke screen to hide who they really are. That can only last so long. As long as they continue to decieve and lie, there will always be people out there to get out the truth.

In honor of Presidents Day...

You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

-Abraham Lincoln
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#7 Author of original report

New Web Site Etc.

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Apex Marketing and Promotions has a new web site: apex-mktg.com
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

AUTHOR: Danielle - (U.S.A.)

I worked for Stefan in May/June of 2004. Mind you, I had neither a car nor a cell phone, as far as they knew. We left for a road trip to Long Island on Mother's Day. I was a little PO'ed because I had to go out in the field alone while my Leader was bullshitting all day long with some flewzy from Xtreme.

The worst part was that I got lost. I thought that was ok until the next morning. During atmosphere Bruno made a remark about how important it was that we followed our territory. After he's done his speech he looks over at me and says "Isn't that right Danielle?" I'm like WTF? I was ready to go then. But I stuck it out for antoher two weeks.

This was the thing that made quit. I came to work and my leader called out sick. So I ended up riding with Dave Pak that day. He drops everyone off first. When everyone is gone he tells me that my leader DJ got fired and that he would be my leader from that day forth. I was cool with that. Dave was a cool guy (If anyone wants to dispute that please feel free to do so).

I get dropped off and call DJ on my cell phone. I asked him if he was alright he said yeah and that he was feeling better and he should be back to work the next day. I said "Huh? I thought they fired you." Apparently, they didn't tell him. I then realized I opened a can of worms. I get off the phone with DJ and call Stefan to tell him that I quit.

I knew then that if he didn't have the decency to tell this man he was fired what else could he be capable of?
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

AUTHOR: Danielle - (U.S.A.)

I worked for Stefan in May/June of 2004. Mind you, I had neither a car nor a cell phone, as far as they knew. We left for a road trip to Long Island on Mother's Day. I was a little PO'ed because I had to go out in the field alone while my Leader was bullshitting all day long with some flewzy from Xtreme.

The worst part was that I got lost. I thought that was ok until the next morning. During atmosphere Bruno made a remark about how important it was that we followed our territory. After he's done his speech he looks over at me and says "Isn't that right Danielle?" I'm like WTF? I was ready to go then. But I stuck it out for antoher two weeks.

This was the thing that made quit. I came to work and my leader called out sick. So I ended up riding with Dave Pak that day. He drops everyone off first. When everyone is gone he tells me that my leader DJ got fired and that he would be my leader from that day forth. I was cool with that. Dave was a cool guy (If anyone wants to dispute that please feel free to do so).

I get dropped off and call DJ on my cell phone. I asked him if he was alright he said yeah and that he was feeling better and he should be back to work the next day. I said "Huh? I thought they fired you." Apparently, they didn't tell him. I then realized I opened a can of worms. I get off the phone with DJ and call Stefan to tell him that I quit.

I knew then that if he didn't have the decency to tell this man he was fired what else could he be capable of?
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I worked there for a month and saw the BS.

AUTHOR: Danielle - (U.S.A.)

I worked for Stefan in May/June of 2004. Mind you, I had neither a car nor a cell phone, as far as they knew. We left for a road trip to Long Island on Mother's Day. I was a little PO'ed because I had to go out in the field alone while my Leader was bullshitting all day long with some flewzy from Xtreme.

The worst part was that I got lost. I thought that was ok until the next morning. During atmosphere Bruno made a remark about how important it was that we followed our territory. After he's done his speech he looks over at me and says "Isn't that right Danielle?" I'm like WTF? I was ready to go then. But I stuck it out for antoher two weeks.

This was the thing that made quit. I came to work and my leader called out sick. So I ended up riding with Dave Pak that day. He drops everyone off first. When everyone is gone he tells me that my leader DJ got fired and that he would be my leader from that day forth. I was cool with that. Dave was a cool guy (If anyone wants to dispute that please feel free to do so).

I get dropped off and call DJ on my cell phone. I asked him if he was alright he said yeah and that he was feeling better and he should be back to work the next day. I said "Huh? I thought they fired you." Apparently, they didn't tell him. I then realized I opened a can of worms. I get off the phone with DJ and call Stefan to tell him that I quit.

I knew then that if he didn't have the decency to tell this man he was fired what else could he be capable of?
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

3 years later... moved down to Florida Stefan Mainhart and Apex Marketing Strikes again!

AUTHOR: S - (U.S.A.)

Wow, we filed our own report already, my fiance and I, but I had to write to this one along with all the others.

My fiance was actually the one who was hired, but our whole family was the victim. So if all of you want to know where Stefan Mainhart is in Florida now, he is in Boynton Beach. Beware, everyone!

Most everything that we read is pretty much the same thing that happened to us, we only wish that we had read this sooner.

I have been on the phone and making emails to the Atorney General, State Legislator, Department of Labor, FTC, BBB, and anywhere else that I can report these people. Maybe if there is enough of us, something could be done.

They lead my fiance to believe that he was going to be making $500 a week as an "account executive", training him to "run his own office" where he would supposedly be making $80,000 a year. Almost a month into it, he found out it was commission only.

They even left him in gated communities, which the "Corporate Trainer" would follow behind another vehicle to enter the gate. (to the best of my knowlege this is illegal!) I know the police were called on them once or twice.

These people promise you the world, and take what world you had already right out from under you.

DONT FALL FOR THIS, anyone who hears of it! Stefan Mainhart, Raf Diaz...Pro Marketing, Apex Marketing...its all a LIE!

Sure, if you want to make a living spending 6 to 8 hours a day out in the sun, going from door to door, "begging" for your paycheck, then please, by all means, go right ahead. Especially if you only want to make $15 to $30 in those 8 long hours in the sun, walking. (unless of course, you manage to make 10 or more sales EVERY day, then you might do okay)

And also know that, the first week or so you are working, at least this is what happened to my fiance, you will be using the rep code of your corporate trainer, until you can get one on your own. Don't fall for the "computers are down so we cant give you your rep code" crap. All the work you do, your "Corporate Trainer" will be the one getting paid for it, not you.

Then, as per Stefan himself when I spoke with him about getting my fiance's paycheck, you get your first paycheck after two weeks of the date of your "first sale" who knows how long that will be, since he didn't even get his rep code until working almost a full week, if not a little more than that. It has been a month since he started, and he has since left, of course...but we have yet to see a check.

Have no fear, anf Stefan, if you happen to read this...if we don't see a check this week, we will be in touch once again with the Department of Labor and Fair Pay in Fort Lauderdale!

If there is anyone else out here who is like all the rest of us, write to your Attorney General! Write to every place you can think of! Do a google search for business fraud or corrupt companies, whatever, until you can find things! There is a really good website, but I will have to write in later about it, because I don't have web adress right now.Also other places to report it to are the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) and BBB (Better Buisiness Bureau)

If you haven't been victimized, and you found these people, or are thinking about working for them, RUN like your butt is on fire! Stay as far from this company as possible!

Our family has had to borrow money, after we went through all of our "emergency savings" just to buy daipers, and pay the bills. We are slowly recovering from the financial crisis these people put us in.

Stefan Mainhart is a liar and a thief! he takes honest, hard working people and uses them to make his money. I mean, when you can be an "exception" to the laws of minimum wage and minimum salary, why not? Advertise the company like it's the greatest thing in the world, raise thier hopes up and get them to basically work for free. Heck, my fiance went one day and only made $15. Even at bare minimum wage, he would have made more than that in 3 hours. Instead, it was 11 am to 8:45 p.m.(they were never back on time a day that he was there) So nearly 10 hours of working, and only $15. An illegal immigrant wouldn't settle for such low pay!

As far as I can tell, these companies are actually legal, although I am searching every end possible to find help. If anyone out there knows anything to help all of us, then by all means, fight back with us!!

Please be careful of any marketing or sales job, always ask before getting hired, if it is salary or commission. Also, be sure to ask what the minium salary is, don't be fooled by the ones that say you will get salary, only to later find out your salary is like $150 a week or some nonsence. Ask all the questions. If they hesitate to answer, or refuse to put it in writing, stay away!

Stefan and Apex, you may have got us for a while, but you will pay for your ways one day. If these reports about your lies and scams saves one person, one family, from your evil, cheating company, then this is worth it.

Stay away from Apex, everyone. And if you see Stefan Mainhart (you can find his picture on the website www.pmg-affiliates.com) do me a favor, and accidently stomp on his toe. Spit in his face. Anything. (within the laws of course)

Funny thing is, I am posting this one day shy of 3 years to the date of when the first report was done, when he was in PA. Odd, I say.

But here it is, and he is in Florida now. 1375 Gateway Blvd in Boynton Beach. I hear he actually lives in Texas, or is going back, or something, and that they have offices in other places like NC. The liars have spread like a disease. Stay away, everyone...he tries to infect everyone he can.
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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Apex is EVIL

AUTHOR: Carisa - (U.S.A.)

I worked for Apex from March to May 2002 in Upper Darby, PA. Stefan Mainhart was my "boss". I just wanted to say that I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one who realized the business for the scam it is. I knew it when I worked there, and I still feel a little burned by it.

I would tell new people to get out while they had a chance, before they got sucked in to the niceties of the managers. Stefan was not the only manager at my office. A former Power Ranger and two others were also managers for this place.

When I quit, I still had a paycheck coming to me. However, when I went to pick it up, Sam, one of the other managers, told me that Stefan (who was in Boston at the time) had said that I'd had cancelled orders and I owed HIM money, so I wouldn't be getting a paycheck.

Stefan was a very shady person. He was fucking our receptionist, at the same time as hitting on anyone with breasts. He asked me to take him to my apartment once when we were on a Saturday run together. I never got the chance to tell him what I really thought of him. I wasn't allowed to have my own opinion. That was the reason I quit.

If anyone reads this and is considering a business run by any of these people, DON'T DO IT!!! Get out now!
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Hey Ed... I just hope you take better care of your employees than any of the worthless managers I ever worked with did

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Ed,

Have you worked with anyone from Apex or were they just ex-cydcor employees from other offices?

How do you seek them out? Do you advertise for your business that you are specifically looking for ex Cydcor employees?

The reason why they are the best "marketers" you have ever used is simple. Once someone has left the business they see that there is a real world out there where people can live, make good money and be truly happy. So any job taken after leaving Cydcor will be a thousand times better than the situation they have just come from. They will have a steady paycheck, freedom to do the things THEY want to do, and time to spend with friends and family. These are the things that make for happy employees that want to do a job because they like what they are doing or who they are doing it for. Cydcor forces their F'd up ideals and shitty business practices down your throat until you are no longer you.

The only thing I learned from my time in Cydcor was how to never treat the people I work with.

I just hope you take better care of your employees than any of the worthless managers I ever worked with did.
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Worst job in the world

AUTHOR: Sam - (U.S.A.)

I am so glad to see other people feel the same way I do. Apex Marketing and Promotions takes advantage of recent college graduates who are looking for an entry level position in the real world. Stefan filled our heads with the idea that we could be our own manager someday and make 100,000k or more. What he failed to mention was that in the process, we would be making 0-$100 every week. I moved to Philly thinking this would be a great job, only it was not a job! It was a shady business that took advantage of hard working people. We were sent out to places over an hour away every day and expected to pay for our own gas and expensives.

Not only that, we worked around 11-12 hours a day, and if we didn't sell anything, we wouldn't be compensated one bit. No health insurance, no benefits. It was like a cult. Theresa and Jay, I wish we had figured this out from the first day. I wasted 2 1/2 months of my time and money. To this day, I still can't believe I stayed that long. The only good thing is that if I could put up with that hell for 2 1/2 months, I could do any job.
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APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

AUTHOR: Fine - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, thumbs up to the website owner.You all rock, your contributions are so helpful!!!Thank God I went with my instincts too! Last night, I was applying to jobs and I happened to apply to one of these marketing/account exec/sales positions(non-specific job huh!).

Surprisingly, I was asking my husband, " Do you think anyone would be cruel enough to offer someone a worse job than what they are doing?" I am an insurance CSR and looking to change my job for more money!!! Anyhow, this company(if anyone knows it, please say something, --TMP Marketing or BMK Marketing Inc.)--Today I got an email back asking me to call and schedule an interview(The email was a verizon.com address(1st red flag). Something told me to just forget about them, but they called me this evening at 6pm...how desperate right? In scheduling my appointment I was going to ask what the job entails at the least since nothing was specific in the ad but the guy just sort off rudely said, " You can ask those questions at the interview". Remember, I am already doubting the company.

So anyway I got a lot anxious and I called my husband asking him if I should just reply to their email with my questions so I don't waste my time and risk losing my current job by taking too much time off. For some reason, I typed the email to this company and saved it as a draft so I can consult him about it once he gets home. I then started researching on the company online, its reputation and whatever I can find. On the company's website (I'm a web-designer/programmer too by the way)...I thought the website was cheap, small sized and recently built or still under construction because one of the 4 website pages was blank.

I just couldn't find much info while googling except lots of job ads, with the same red flags: "No experience needed.Sports-minded, leaders, managers...etc". I also went to monster, they had ONLY 2 ads and are literally advertising on every free website as a company based in White Plainfield, NY and Conshohocken, PA.

Just when I had spent over 2 hours without finding anything else and almost giving up, I found one report that led me to this site.I couldn't thank everyone that contributed here enough. These companies will get what's coming to them. I am cancelling my interview by email and voicemail tonight!!!

Beware people and just do some research before investing your time and money in almost anything! Remember too that all these names may keep changing and for some of our desperate jobseekers....it's sometimes unfortunate!
my 2cents! ;)
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APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

AUTHOR: Fine - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, thumbs up to the website owner.You all rock, your contributions are so helpful!!!Thank God I went with my instincts too! Last night, I was applying to jobs and I happened to apply to one of these marketing/account exec/sales positions(non-specific job huh!).

Surprisingly, I was asking my husband, " Do you think anyone would be cruel enough to offer someone a worse job than what they are doing?" I am an insurance CSR and looking to change my job for more money!!! Anyhow, this company(if anyone knows it, please say something, --TMP Marketing or BMK Marketing Inc.)--Today I got an email back asking me to call and schedule an interview(The email was a verizon.com address(1st red flag). Something told me to just forget about them, but they called me this evening at 6pm...how desperate right? In scheduling my appointment I was going to ask what the job entails at the least since nothing was specific in the ad but the guy just sort off rudely said, " You can ask those questions at the interview". Remember, I am already doubting the company.

So anyway I got a lot anxious and I called my husband asking him if I should just reply to their email with my questions so I don't waste my time and risk losing my current job by taking too much time off. For some reason, I typed the email to this company and saved it as a draft so I can consult him about it once he gets home. I then started researching on the company online, its reputation and whatever I can find. On the company's website (I'm a web-designer/programmer too by the way)...I thought the website was cheap, small sized and recently built or still under construction because one of the 4 website pages was blank.

I just couldn't find much info while googling except lots of job ads, with the same red flags: "No experience needed.Sports-minded, leaders, managers...etc". I also went to monster, they had ONLY 2 ads and are literally advertising on every free website as a company based in White Plainfield, NY and Conshohocken, PA.

Just when I had spent over 2 hours without finding anything else and almost giving up, I found one report that led me to this site.I couldn't thank everyone that contributed here enough. These companies will get what's coming to them. I am cancelling my interview by email and voicemail tonight!!!

Beware people and just do some research before investing your time and money in almost anything! Remember too that all these names may keep changing and for some of our desperate jobseekers....it's sometimes unfortunate!
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APEX, Company Names Changes, Be Careful!! MARKETING COMPANIES SCAMS---VALUED REVIEWS. Philadelphia, Conshohocken,PA

AUTHOR: Fine - (U.S.A.)

Firstly, thumbs up to the website owner.You all rock, your contributions are so helpful!!!Thank God I went with my instincts too! Last night, I was applying to jobs and I happened to apply to one of these marketing/account exec/sales positions(non-specific job huh!).

Surprisingly, I was asking my husband, " Do you think anyone would be cruel enough to offer someone a worse job than what they are doing?" I am an insurance CSR and looking to change my job for more money!!! Anyhow, this company(if anyone knows it, please say something, --TMP Marketing or BMK Marketing Inc.)--Today I got an email back asking me to call and schedule an interview(The email was a verizon.com address(1st red flag). Something told me to just forget about them, but they called me this evening at 6pm...how desperate right? In scheduling my appointment I was going to ask what the job entails at the least since nothing was specific in the ad but the guy just sort off rudely said, " You can ask those questions at the interview". Remember, I am already doubting the company.

So anyway I got a lot anxious and I called my husband asking him if I should just reply to their email with my questions so I don't waste my time and risk losing my current job by taking too much time off. For some reason, I typed the email to this company and saved it as a draft so I can consult him about it once he gets home. I then started researching on the company online, its reputation and whatever I can find. On the company's website (I'm a web-designer/programmer too by the way)...I thought the website was cheap, small sized and recently built or still under construction because one of the 4 website pages was blank.

I just couldn't find much info while googling except lots of job ads, with the same red flags: "No experience needed.Sports-minded, leaders, managers...etc". I also went to monster, they had ONLY 2 ads and are literally advertising on every free website as a company based in White Plainfield, NY and Conshohocken, PA.

Just when I had spent over 2 hours without finding anything else and almost giving up, I found one report that led me to this site.I couldn't thank everyone that contributed here enough. These companies will get what's coming to them. I am cancelling my interview by email and voicemail tonight!!!

Beware people and just do some research before investing your time and money in almost anything! Remember too that all these names may keep changing and for some of our desperate jobseekers....it's sometimes unfortunate!
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SAVED BY RIP-OFF REPORT!!!

AUTHOR: Jennifer - (U.S.A.)

WOW! I just now went through all of these hate messages. Yesterday I went for the first round of interviewing at the Houston location. Got excited because they called me for the second one.... Holy cow, I can't believe all this crap is going on. One thing which sure did give me doubts was that when I came in, I didn't see any activity going on in the office, no secretary, no employees, no nothing. Then, after the interview, I though it was weird that I wasn't asked if I had any questions for the interviewer. I've had tons of interviews and never have I experienced anything like this.. Oh well. All I want to say is that I am SUPER thankful to all you guys out there who saved me from wasting more time and energy. Thank you so much, guys.

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Universal Online Promotions NYC Office

AUTHOR: Concerned - (U.S.A.)

I was doing some research on my current employer and I came across this posting. I can confirm and agree with everything you said in your post. During and after my second and final round interview, they did the exact same thing and at the end of the last interview, I felt as though I was hustled into accepting the job. They tore down my experience and told my I wasn't a viable candidate and a few minutes later they were offering me a job.

The exact words they told me were: "If it were up to me I wouldn't hire you, but I got a good recommendation from your second round interviewer. The only way I would hire you is if you start tomorrow." Since I was unemployed at the time I was like whatever and took the job.

Now that I am working there I see that they are making money off of the blood, sweat, and tears of the innocent suckers they duped into doing what is a modern form of slavery.

We do all of the foot work and the office brings in all of the cash, while we get 28 cents for every dollar we earn. It is a huge hustle and they feed you with the "opportunity" to own your own business in 10 months.

I went on a business trip to another office all on my own expense, and the owner of the other office lives like a bum.

They feed you with a lot of dreams of financial independence and in actuality, that freedom doesn't appear until about 5-6 years later. You might as well go get a job in an office and get promoted the old-fashioned way.

It is not worth it being in the rain, cold, and all of the other elements for a 150 dollar check every week. That doesn't even cover my groceries!

I will be resigning very soon! Like TOMORROW! I hope others can read this post and not make the same mistakes I have made.
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The Best Marketers I've ever used

AUTHOR: Ed - (U.S.A.)

I do not know about all the inner workings of these ex-cydcor companies but I will tell you this: They are the best marketers in the business.I am an energy broker and I specifically seek people who have been trained in their system.
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department of Labor

AUTHOR: Todd - (U.S.A.)

Theresa,

To do a complaint about with held wages:

Contact the State Department of Labor that the alleged fraud ocurred in. (So if this happened in Pennsylvania, contact the Pennsylvania Department of Labor, if you were working in Ohio, then you contact the Ohio department of Labor etc...) Let them know you want to file a complaint. Ask them how to do it. More than likely it will involve you filling out a certain type of complaint form to the appropriate division of the Department of Labor and submitting it. Keep a copy for your records. Attach copies of any relative information to it. Keep the originals. If you have to mail it, send it by certified mail.

Good luck.
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Some more truth

AUTHOR: Theresa - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jay,

I worked for him for 6 months. In October, I went to Atlanta to learn the BellSouth consumer campaign. Stef said the average rep made $150/day. We got to Atlanta. I guess he left out the fact that Saturdays are mandatory, you even have atmosphere. But thats the big $$$ day. This whole thing is BS because the good ones who trained me in Ken's office sat in McDonalds until 4:30 then hit the field till 7:30. Of course, it wouldn't be cydcor if you only worked 6 hours a day. The most I made was $187 and I ran my ass off in a spanish neighborhood to make that.

Its funny because he said training would take 3 weeks but he left out that we had to hit a certain level of production. If not, Brad Park would keep us tere longer. Funny, he went in the field one day and made less that 50 bucks (i thought he could ring the bell everyday). Then he stopped goin in the field and blamed us for our low production. Now he is online everyday (he's on AOL at 5:30pm every night- the field is 11-8).

We get to florida and he makes us by our own solicitors permits (Bell requires we carry them, and many people in west palm beach have no soliciting communities). O, if the community says no soliciting Bellsouth says we cant sell there... and these floridians do call the cops. Its a shame bc this story will wind up like the first time he came to philly.

There were 3 other leaders (now called corporate trainers to make the breakdown sound more proffessional). And guess what!!! 1 is a foreigner- sound familiar. He cant leave stefan!!! Its a shame that jerk gets off "owning people" as he calls it. He laughs about owning all these offices bc of work visas. As for the other 2- the one guy is nice but this girl he brought down there is retarded. She never even made it through school or knows how to dress professionally, but she'll follow him as a leader for years bc she cant get another opportunity and she knows it. Even if these outside deals open up, there is no guarantee that they'll last.

I haer Victory is back in business but I don't know what campaign. I wouldnt wanna do Quill bc Stef f'ed up the turf and screwed the owner over.

Stefan is the worst owner ever- he wears the same 2 suits everyday but he gets off on it- he even wears them to the bank on the weekend. He has no car, cell phone etc. He racked up a bill on his foreigners cellie and broke it accidentally. When the leader asked himto buy a new one, he got upset but did it (after he yelled at him for not insuring the phone). Then he said he owns the phone and is entitled to makw any call off it he wants. Anyways, I'll check back in a few days.

O, I actuallt got my check 2 days ago (when I quit nov 4). Do you know the agency i need to call to file a complaint- he deceived me and held money of mine and only paid me bc cydcor's HR dept uncovered the truth. I know that what he did was illegal. Any help would be appreciated. For those of you thinking of working for this man- don't. I don't even know Jay but u can see some people will never change.
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AUTHOR: Theresa - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jay,

I worked for him for 6 months. In October, I went to Atlanta to learn the BellSouth consumer campaign. Stef said the average rep made $150/day. We got to Atlanta. I guess he left out the fact that Saturdays are mandatory, you even have atmosphere. But thats the big $$$ day. This whole thing is BS because the good ones who trained me in Ken's office sat in McDonalds until 4:30 then hit the field till 7:30. Of course, it wouldn't be cydcor if you only worked 6 hours a day. The most I made was $187 and I ran my ass off in a spanish neighborhood to make that.

Its funny because he said training would take 3 weeks but he left out that we had to hit a certain level of production. If not, Brad Park would keep us tere longer. Funny, he went in the field one day and made less that 50 bucks (i thought he could ring the bell everyday). Then he stopped goin in the field and blamed us for our low production. Now he is online everyday (he's on AOL at 5:30pm every night- the field is 11-8).

We get to florida and he makes us by our own solicitors permits (Bell requires we carry them, and many people in west palm beach have no soliciting communities). O, if the community says no soliciting Bellsouth says we cant sell there... and these floridians do call the cops. Its a shame bc this story will wind up like the first time he came to philly.

There were 3 other leaders (now called corporate trainers to make the breakdown sound more proffessional). And guess what!!! 1 is a foreigner- sound familiar. He cant leave stefan!!! Its a shame that jerk gets off "owning people" as he calls it. He laughs about owning all these offices bc of work visas. As for the other 2- the one guy is nice but this girl he brought down there is retarded. She never even made it through school or knows how to dress professionally, but she'll follow him as a leader for years bc she cant get another opportunity and she knows it. Even if these outside deals open up, there is no guarantee that they'll last.

I haer Victory is back in business but I don't know what campaign. I wouldnt wanna do Quill bc Stef f'ed up the turf and screwed the owner over.

Stefan is the worst owner ever- he wears the same 2 suits everyday but he gets off on it- he even wears them to the bank on the weekend. He has no car, cell phone etc. He racked up a bill on his foreigners cellie and broke it accidentally. When the leader asked himto buy a new one, he got upset but did it (after he yelled at him for not insuring the phone). Then he said he owns the phone and is entitled to makw any call off it he wants. Anyways, I'll check back in a few days.

O, I actuallt got my check 2 days ago (when I quit nov 4). Do you know the agency i need to call to file a complaint- he deceived me and held money of mine and only paid me bc cydcor's HR dept uncovered the truth. I know that what he did was illegal. Any help would be appreciated. For those of you thinking of working for this man- don't. I don't even know Jay but u can see some people will never change.
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AUTHOR: Theresa - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jay,

I worked for him for 6 months. In October, I went to Atlanta to learn the BellSouth consumer campaign. Stef said the average rep made $150/day. We got to Atlanta. I guess he left out the fact that Saturdays are mandatory, you even have atmosphere. But thats the big $$$ day. This whole thing is BS because the good ones who trained me in Ken's office sat in McDonalds until 4:30 then hit the field till 7:30. Of course, it wouldn't be cydcor if you only worked 6 hours a day. The most I made was $187 and I ran my ass off in a spanish neighborhood to make that.

Its funny because he said training would take 3 weeks but he left out that we had to hit a certain level of production. If not, Brad Park would keep us tere longer. Funny, he went in the field one day and made less that 50 bucks (i thought he could ring the bell everyday). Then he stopped goin in the field and blamed us for our low production. Now he is online everyday (he's on AOL at 5:30pm every night- the field is 11-8).

We get to florida and he makes us by our own solicitors permits (Bell requires we carry them, and many people in west palm beach have no soliciting communities). O, if the community says no soliciting Bellsouth says we cant sell there... and these floridians do call the cops. Its a shame bc this story will wind up like the first time he came to philly.

There were 3 other leaders (now called corporate trainers to make the breakdown sound more proffessional). And guess what!!! 1 is a foreigner- sound familiar. He cant leave stefan!!! Its a shame that jerk gets off "owning people" as he calls it. He laughs about owning all these offices bc of work visas. As for the other 2- the one guy is nice but this girl he brought down there is retarded. She never even made it through school or knows how to dress professionally, but she'll follow him as a leader for years bc she cant get another opportunity and she knows it. Even if these outside deals open up, there is no guarantee that they'll last.

I haer Victory is back in business but I don't know what campaign. I wouldnt wanna do Quill bc Stef f'ed up the turf and screwed the owner over.

Stefan is the worst owner ever- he wears the same 2 suits everyday but he gets off on it- he even wears them to the bank on the weekend. He has no car, cell phone etc. He racked up a bill on his foreigners cellie and broke it accidentally. When the leader asked himto buy a new one, he got upset but did it (after he yelled at him for not insuring the phone). Then he said he owns the phone and is entitled to makw any call off it he wants. Anyways, I'll check back in a few days.

O, I actuallt got my check 2 days ago (when I quit nov 4). Do you know the agency i need to call to file a complaint- he deceived me and held money of mine and only paid me bc cydcor's HR dept uncovered the truth. I know that what he did was illegal. Any help would be appreciated. For those of you thinking of working for this man- don't. I don't even know Jay but u can see some people will never change.
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Some more truth

AUTHOR: Theresa - (U.S.A.)

Hey Jay,

I worked for him for 6 months. In October, I went to Atlanta to learn the BellSouth consumer campaign. Stef said the average rep made $150/day. We got to Atlanta. I guess he left out the fact that Saturdays are mandatory, you even have atmosphere. But thats the big $$$ day. This whole thing is BS because the good ones who trained me in Ken's office sat in McDonalds until 4:30 then hit the field till 7:30. Of course, it wouldn't be cydcor if you only worked 6 hours a day. The most I made was $187 and I ran my ass off in a spanish neighborhood to make that.

Its funny because he said training would take 3 weeks but he left out that we had to hit a certain level of production. If not, Brad Park would keep us tere longer. Funny, he went in the field one day and made less that 50 bucks (i thought he could ring the bell everyday). Then he stopped goin in the field and blamed us for our low production. Now he is online everyday (he's on AOL at 5:30pm every night- the field is 11-8).

We get to florida and he makes us by our own solicitors permits (Bell requires we carry them, and many people in west palm beach have no soliciting communities). O, if the community says no soliciting Bellsouth says we cant sell there... and these floridians do call the cops. Its a shame bc this story will wind up like the first time he came to philly.

There were 3 other leaders (now called corporate trainers to make the breakdown sound more proffessional). And guess what!!! 1 is a foreigner- sound familiar. He cant leave stefan!!! Its a shame that jerk gets off "owning people" as he calls it. He laughs about owning all these offices bc of work visas. As for the other 2- the one guy is nice but this girl he brought down there is retarded. She never even made it through school or knows how to dress professionally, but she'll follow him as a leader for years bc she cant get another opportunity and she knows it. Even if these outside deals open up, there is no guarantee that they'll last.

I haer Victory is back in business but I don't know what campaign. I wouldnt wanna do Quill bc Stef f'ed up the turf and screwed the owner over.

Stefan is the worst owner ever- he wears the same 2 suits everyday but he gets off on it- he even wears them to the bank on the weekend. He has no car, cell phone etc. He racked up a bill on his foreigners cellie and broke it accidentally. When the leader asked himto buy a new one, he got upset but did it (after he yelled at him for not insuring the phone). Then he said he owns the phone and is entitled to makw any call off it he wants. Anyways, I'll check back in a few days.

O, I actuallt got my check 2 days ago (when I quit nov 4). Do you know the agency i need to call to file a complaint- he deceived me and held money of mine and only paid me bc cydcor's HR dept uncovered the truth. I know that what he did was illegal. Any help would be appreciated. For those of you thinking of working for this man- don't. I don't even know Jay but u can see some people will never change.
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Theresa... Good to see more people putting the truth out there about this scumbag.

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

How long did you work for Stefan? Did you start with him in Philly then follow him down to Florida?

I thought Victor Young took over his old office in Manayunk. That is a pretty short run if his office has closed already.

Anyway, I worked for Stefan for over a year down in the old Upper Darby location. He is one of the most F***ed up people I have ever met. You would not believe the stories I have about this guy!

Good to see more people putting the truth out there about this scumbag.
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Watch Out Florida- New Info. Lets get them shutdown.

AUTHOR: Theresa - (U.S.A.)

The ads are being filed on monster and career builder as Pro Marketing Group. Why?

1. R3 Enterprises and Apex share an office. They switch resumes around and try to find the best fit- who would be better at b to b and who would be better at residential.

2. Careerbuilder and monster are getting flooded with similar ads in every city under entry level. Its starting to look shady that all these different companies have the same training program and rapidly expanding clientele.

3. The office was in Boca Raton at this corporate center but it moved to Ft. Lauderdale. Watch out Southern Florida.

Wait until you get a paycheck- it won't be from PMG. This is false advertising.

O, the office in Philly that took over Apex's Quill campaign is gone. An office in Jersey travels over here to do it. They never tell you that most offices are shut down and managers have to be retrained.

I sadly went down to Florida but after 4 days I realized how shady Management is. Myself and 3 others get there and suddenly the cheap apartment turns out to have an enourmous security deposit and appplication fee etc. BEWARE OF CYDCOR OFFICES- everything is true.

To whomever is studying corporate law- look me up when you are done. Lets get them shutdown.
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Look Out Florida, Apex Marketing and Promotions is coming!!!!

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

Apex marketing and Promotions, Inc. was previously located in Manayunk, PA. Stefan Mainhart has recently relocated to somewhere in Florida. The same name will be used, but I am not aware of the actual location of the office.

Taking over at the Manayunk Location is Victory Marketing and Promotions, Inc. What a catchy and original name...right. I am not sure at this time who the owner is, but it dosn't matter. Since they were trained and promoted by Stefan Mainhart, this person is probably just as bad.

If anyone sees monster ads popping up for Apex down in Florida...run like hell. This is a terrible company, corrupt and evil in a way you will never comprehend.

Don't waste your time with these losers. There are many other legitimate opportunities to be found, don't be fooled. This company has one of the lowest comission rates in any sales job and there is no guarantee you will even get paid on your applications. But if you want to live on $120 a week...go for it.

If you are one of the unfortunate souls who has followed Stefan Mainhart down to Florida, I feel for you. Take it from someone who was in your situation not too long ago. Stefan Mainhart is a terrible person who cares only about himself. He will manipulate, lie, and flat out shit all over your life if it will benefit him in any way, shape, or form.

He will promise the world and deliver nothing of the sort. He will promote values, integrity, and loyalness within his organization. In every one of these principles, he fails miserably. He is a walking double standard of the worst kind. The kind who believes he has some kind of power. He believes this because he "runs his own company." What a joke! He runs a door to door sales force of zombies that put some extra coin in his pocket. He says he only hires the best when in reality he will hire any bum off the street. If you are making him an extra buck or two, he will keep you out there knocking on doors. Don't be fooled by him. He will cut you off from your family and friends and any influence outside of the business. Stefan Mainhart is most content when he has complete control and knowledge over every aspect of your life. He made mine a living hell for over a year. It took that long to finally get the hell out of one of the worst situations I have ever found myself in. I left with my girlfriend, half of his best leaders and for a time, weakened him financially. If he ever has the balls to respond to any of this...bring it, I can back my comments and he cannot.

You can check out the web-site of his office and the others in the Raf Diaz organization.
www.pmg-affiliates.com

One last note to those who followed Stefan Mainhart down to Florida. I would find out exactly how much the merch house you all are living in costs every month. He lied to all of us when we moved from Boston to Philly. He was overcharging us and skimming off the top.

That's it.
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ex emplyee here, very happy to know your out of the business and coming to this website

AUTHOR: Braden - (U.S.A.)

hey jay, i am glad to see your posts. i am very happy to know your out of the business and coming to this website. you never really see the big picture until your out of that company. reply below so others will know your thoughts...
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has anyone else worked for this company?

AUTHOR: Jay - (U.S.A.)

I know that Apex has moved to another office in Philly. I worked there when they were in Upper Darby. I was just wondering if anyone else has worked for Apex Marketing and Promotions or any of the other companies in the corrupt oranization pmg-affiliates.com run by Raf Diaz?

I should probably be asking this question on the aftermath website, but I am putting it out here for now. I have seen a few people on here who I have worked with in the past, but I know there are more out there.

Or perhaps Stefan or Raf will have the balls to respond to one of my posts? Probably not, they are too busy decieving all of the talented young professionals that they have so skillfully decieved into coming in for an interview. Keep up the good work guys. You should be proud of the legacy you are leaving.
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