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Complaint Review: AR500 Armor - Phoenix Arizona

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  • AR500 Armor 17431 N. Black Can Hwy Phoenix, Arizona USA

AR500 Armor AR 500 Armor, AR500ARMOR.com, ar500armor.com/ Bills immediately, sends partial order THREE months later, Never sent full product order. Promises to, then claims I CANCELLED!? Phoenix Arizona

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DO NOT BUY FROM AR500 ARMOR

SCAM - FRAUD - LIARS - SHIP MONTHS LATER - INCOMPLETE ORDERS - FALSE ADVERTIZING - PATRONIZE YOU AND BLOW YOU OFF.  ALL YOU NEED TO SEE IS BELOW.

I placed an order for a tactical vest from AR500 Armor on NOVEMBER 12th, 2015.  It was over FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS. $516.

After getting NO tracking or email confirmation, 11 days later I followed up and they responded: "Your order looks to be completed by the 2nd week in January.At that time you will receive tracking information via email. Please allow an additional 2-3 business days to see physical movement on your order once you receive tracking information."

They processed my credit card - IMMEDIATELY.  They said: "Production time 6-8 weeks".  I followed up several times after that period.  They KEPT DELAYING.

**From me: Hi Cece et al,
According to this email - I should've received my armor last week.  I'm starting to get concerned.
Please provide update. I think I ordered on or before November 21, 2015.
Thank you. - J 
 

From "Jessica" Jan 12th, 2016.  J.,  It looks like previous associate who emailed you last told you it would be entering the packing queue this week. Your order does have an 8 week lead time leaving it entering the packing queue this week. When it gets labeled for shipment you will receive an email with tracking information. From that labeled date, it takes 2-3 days before it leaves our facility. I can not give you an exact delivery date as UPS are the ones who delegate that information.

Please let me know if you need any further assistance! Have a beautiful and marvelous day!

Sincerely, Jess    AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 

** I followed up further. asking for a tracking number.

 

1/12/2016 (now later than they said I would have it)

J_,

 Yes you will be receiving tracking this week and it will ship sometime next week.

 Please let me know if you need any further assistance! Have a beautiful and marvelous day!

 Sincerely, Jess

 

** Jan 16th, 2016 - STILL no tracking number.  I'm starting to believe the company is a SCAM -- they have $516 dollars they are enjoying interest on, its now 2 1/2 MONTHS later and I have NOTHING.

So I received no promised tracking number. Can you provide some clarity please.

Thank you. - J

 

Reponse: January 18th, 2016

. I do apologize for the delay. We have had unforeseen setbacks in production, which had caused the lead time to be pushed up. We are working hard to get all orders completed and shipped. Your order looks to be completed by the end of this week . At that time you will receive a tracking number via e-mail. Please allow 2-3 business days for it to leave our facility. We appreciate your business and patience. Have a blessed day! Cece. AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1211

 

** STILL NOTHING!  I ask AGAIN Jan 28th after looking to see if AR500 ARMOR is a SCAM:

** from me: Hi - please answer.  I'm started to get concerned that this is a scam.

They respond: MORE DELAYS!  THE EXACT SAME BOGUS LIES..

J_, I apologize for the delay, we had a higher volume of orders than anticipated due to the holiday seasons which has put us slightly behind. I understand that is not your issue but it does affect our production and shipping time. However it does look like your order will be labeled for shipment here shortly! When it is labeled you will receive tracking information via email. We generally allow 2-3 business days from the labeled date for it to leave the facility. That is when you will see movement on your tracking information. Once again I apologize for the delay I do understand how frustrating it can be to wait for a delayed order. We are working as fast as we can and I greatly appreciate your patience  J_ , let me know if there is anything else I can do for you! Please let me know if you need any further assistance! Have a beautiful and marvelous day! Sincerely, Jess AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 

I THREATEN A CHARGEBACK - LOW AND BEHOLD: ACTION!

** My email Jan 29. 

Frankly - I think I've been very conciliatory.  Please send a "YOU WILL GET A TRACKING CODE BY" Date - otherwise I will have to contact the processor or card-issuer.  Can you provide some testimonials so we know this is a real organization?  I run a large audience facebook page who is chiding me on this currently.
RESULT!  THEY SEND A TRACKING NUMBER!
 
**I respond: Jan 29:
Both encouraged and disappointed to get a tracking number.  Suspicious timing.
Look forward to reviewing the armor nonetheless. 

NOWWWWW They Respond: Feb 22

J_,

I can assure we are a legitimate company. Our lead time are estimate baring [sic] any production setbacks. As well they are based off actual production days we are open an production is running. We did past 3 holidays (Thanksgiving-Christmas and New Year’s) in which we were closed additional day those weeks. We did not anticipate that to set us back but it did unfortunately. We are still showing you order to enter our packing queue this week. If you don’t receive tracking information by the end of the business day today you should have it no later than this Sunday January 29th, as we are working overtime to get all orders completed. Now once you receive tracking that does mean your order has entered the packing queue. It does goes through processing in shipping to be packed in the order in which they  were received.  We normal ask you to allow 3 business days to see movement but so you are aware we have slightly exceeded that as well and have order leaving around 5 days after entering the queue. Please let me know if you would like to proceed with the order as if you are unsatisfied we can cancel your order and issue you a refund as there is no need to dispute it with your credit card company, as we can issue it on or end.

Please let me know if you need any further assistance.

Thank you,

Cecelia

AR500 Armor® Customer Support  17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1209

 

.THIS GOES ON FOR FOUR MORE WEEKS!  See attached image.

. Febrary 9, I Finally get the package.

. February 12th: I go through and try to assemble the AR500 Armor plate-carrier.  I bought the AR500 Armor "Phoenix" package and the upsold "side plates".  There was NO POSSIBLE WAY to hold the side-plates.  I called them up.  They said effectively: "[Oh.... we have this issue a lot.  The Phoenix Package with the UPSOLD SIDE PLATES does NOT COME with SIDE PLATE HOLDERS.  YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE THING AGAIN AND DEAL WITH LIES, GETTING PATRONIZED WITH 'PROMISED' DATES, CONSTANTLY FOLLOWING UP AND BEING LIED TO AND STRUNG ALONG after we INSTANTLY TOOK THE CONSUMERS' Money - and YOU HAVE TO SHELL OUT MORE CASH.  See you in a Few MONTHS OF BEGGING FOR YOUR PRODUCT]".  WHAT THE @##@!!!

I state my frustration and how it is false advertising and I believe I'm talking to Jessica.  She says: "Personally, frankly I AGREE WITH YOU.  This happens a LOT.  Let me go talk to my manager." (this is like the fabled used-car salesman 'going in the back room to talk to his manager).  She comes back on: "We're going to send you the side plate carriers for free.  Ok?"    I say: "THANK you.  Will there be an email confirmation and some tracking number?". She says: "Yes - I'll send that".  THAT NEVER HAPPENED.  NO EMAIL.  NO TRACKING.  NO "EVIDENCE" of the admission or concession.  

AGAIN I am FORCED to follow up:

THEN I GET A DAMNED "SURVEY" email!

On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 1:25 PM, AR500 Armor® <[email protected] // > wrote:

b Dear J_,

The AR500 Armor® team would like to say Thank You for your business and support!

We value your feedback and are always looking for ways to expand and improve our products and service enhancing your experience. Your feedback directly affects how we move forward as a business!

We would like to ask for a quick moment of your time to share your thoughts, leaving a product review is simple! The following links will take you to the product you purchased where you can share your review under the "Reviews" tab.

AR500-Banshee-BK-Armor -  Banshee Plate Carrier w/ Armor & Pouches - Black

 

2/18/2016: So I took the survey, they NEVER POSTED any of it, and I replied to the survey solicitation email:

"REVIEW POSTED:

Took THREE MONTHS of me chasing them and finally threatened to post on my FB Group the poor service and blowoffs, while being chided by my Group members.
 
UPSOLD the SIDE PLATES, "Curved" and "Covered" - and you DON'T GET THE DAMNED SIDE PLATE "HOLDERS"!  Just the PLATES with NO POCKETS TO HOLD THEM!?  WHAT THE HELL KIND OF PACKAGE IS THIS!?  Its JUST GOUGING.  I called and was "Promised" the actual SIDE PLATE "CARRIERS" and asked for an email confirmation.
NO EMAIL RECEIVED.
NO SIDE CARRIERS RECEIVED.
 
THIS COMPANY IS HORRIBLE."
 
They reply: 2/22/2016   RESPONDS Saying THE PREVIOUS LIAR ON THE PHONE SAYS I CANCELLLED THE ENTIRE ORDER!  THEY LIED!  THAT's The NOTE the FOUL LIAR PUT IN THEIR SYSTEM!

Feb. 22, 2016: "Hi J_, Looks like my associate talked to you on February 12th. Looks like you’ll be sending the plates back to us. Is that correct? Dee.  AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1210

 

I reply: 2/23/2016

" to: Deonte.L "ARE YOU @*#*#*(#(#'ing KIDDING ME!  HONESTLY WHAT THE F***!??  She SAID SHE is shipping ME the SIDE PLATES FREE OF CHARGE.  WHAT THE F***!?  I WILL NOTIFY  VISA AND MASTERCARD OF THE FRAUD IF THAT IS NOT CONFIRMED SHORTLY.  AND POST ON RIPOFF REPORT AND OTHER BUSINESS RATING SITES."

 

They respond 2/24/2016:

Hello,

 I do apologize for any confusion. We will get a correction order processed for the side plate pouches.

 We appreciate your business and patience.

 Have a blessed day!

Cece AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1211

2/24 I vent frustration about their fraudulent practice (lonnng email list of people I'm going to cc - I REALLY DON'T want the FTC, FCC, Consumer Protection Bureaus, Bank Commissions, and other regulatory bodies SHUTTING THEM DOWN.

2/25 Their response:

2/25/2016 

J_, I apologize for the error, I can assure you we are working to get this corrected I do see my associated had submitted a correction order to our fulfillment department to get those pouches sent out. Like any company errors can be made, and I apologize again for any inconvenience this may have caused, as it is no excuse. With the flood of orders we received over the holidays we had unforeseen setbacks, we were an are still working overtime and weekends to get orders completed an shipped. By stating this as “FRAUD” would be a false statement as you did receive your items unfortunately one of the items were missing which we are getting corrected for you. I understand this can be frustrating as you do need this item in order to run your side armor. Again I can assure you this is being corrected.

 Please let me know if you need any further assistance. Thank you, Cecelia AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1209

 

2/25 I say I want a TRACKING NUMBER:

Yes - I want a tracking order.

The "Fraud" is the recording in the system of a note that "customer cancelled and is sending back" when I JUST hung up with her and she "confirmed" they're sending me the items I (and all customers) are led to believe (and logically must be) included in the "package".  She also confirmed she'd send tracking info, then LIES - not "makes a mistake" and puts a note in the system that I cancelled.  I'm not asking you to fire her as she probably needs a job - but I would suggest you put a stop to it as she's putting the company at risk of permanent reputation damage and in the sights of government regulators who'd love to take aim at an "armor" company.
 
I do NOT want that to happen, but will NOT accept: "Please wait... Again... We Promise...  This time .... REALLY...."
"fool me once"
 
SIX DAYS LATER they respond: 3/1/16

J_, A correction order is in the works.Dee AR500 Armor® Customer Support 17431 N Black Canyon Hwy â”‚ Phoenix, AZ 85023 phone: 602.501.9607 ext 1210 

I say I want a tracking number.  They send one - for the WRONG / OLD / INCOMPLETE ORDER FOR Feb 10th!  A MONTH AGO!  And it says: "Complete.  'MET CUSTOMER MAN'".
 
NOW NOTHING:
 
AR500 HAS HORRIBLE CUSTOMER SERVICE.  THEY SELL YOU SOMETHING AND UPSELL THE HELL OUT OF YOU.  YOU WAIT THREE MONTHS TO FIND OUT ESSENTIAL PARTS TO "CARRY" THE ARMOR "PLATE CARRIER" ARE MISSING!  THEN IT'S "YOUR FAULT" FOR NOT ORDERING THEM, THEN THEY LIE AND SAY THEY'LL SEND THEM, THEN THEY DON'T.  THEN YOU FOLLOW UP AND THEY SAY: "IT SAYS IN THE SYSTEM YOU CANCELLED YOUR ORDER AND ARE SENDING THEM BACK".  THEN YOU SAY WTF!!!! AND THEY SAY: "SOMETHING IS IN THE WORKS".
 
JESS AND "DEONTE" SHOULD BE EJECTED.  WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS RE: CECE AS SHE'S EITHER THE ONLY ONE THAT SEEMS TO CARE AT ALL, OR IS THE BEST LIAR OF THEM ALL (WHICH I'M HOPING IS NOT THE CASE).
 
Screen shot of emals. 
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