CARLTON SHEETS.....RIP OFF WIZARD WITH CRAPPY ATTITUDES Full of Sheet *Consumer Suggestion *REBUTTALS

I get so tired of Americans complaining about everything and wanting to sue everyone over their own ignorance. People, start taking responsibility for your decisions, yes not everyone is going to have the same success as the people they show on TV, because these people are overachievers and they worked extremely hard to have that success. The programs you buy on TV to build wealth can work, but the key word is WORK!!! these programs do not work unless you sell out to it and work your butt off for a couple of YEARS, but is an investment of a couple years, worth long term increased income?

My wife bought the Carlton Sheets program for me to do but I was not interested in putting the effort into it, my mistake, because I do believe after reviewing the program it could be beneficial. Just the education alone on how real estate works is worthwhile

I have tried a number of things, anyone heard of Primerica? It teaches you how to get out of debt while building a business network. I invested 5 years of my life and tried hard but I was not an overachiever, and it did teach me great financial principles but I was unable to build a business, but I did see people before me and after me that had amazing success building a business, so the moral of the story is, not every program or business is for everyone.

The real estate forms portfolio alone is worth the cost of the kit.

We purchased Carlton's course about six years ago, before buying our first home, and have found the real estate education to have been really useful. We now own three homes (one with positive cash flow ever since time of purchase, another building equity like crazy), and we just sold a fourth one for $78,000 more than we paid for it, one year later.

None of our purchases have been "no money down" (but I don't doubt it can be done). I think the most valuable "take-away" from his course has been the ability to understand the value of real estate investing and to think positively about finding solutions in order to make it happen. There is always a way.

At any rate, I see a lot of griping on this site about Carlton, and it just kind of bugs me because from where I sit, he's just a guy offering an educational product (yes, for a price) which is from my experience a really good value for someone who wants to learn about real estate. It may not be the only tool kit you use, but there is certainly nothing wrong with it from what I have seen.

I suspect some of the complaints about inability to return the items have been sour grapes at the person's own laziness in not returning them within the agreed-upon time, which is admittedly one of the reasons these types of things are even more profitable (it's human nature), but sorry - if you are outside the terms of a contract, that is your responsibility, not the seller's. I would hope that Carlton Sheets resolves any issues of overbilling when they become aware of it, and I suspect that they do (it's bad business not to, and any sensible business owner knows word gets around).

At any rate, the forms are worth it (We have used them many times now, the rental ones especially), and the CDs are also really beneficial even if you don't wind up trying to buy "creatively".

The real estate forms portfolio alone is worth the cost of the kit.

We purchased Carlton's course about six years ago, before buying our first home, and have found the real estate education to have been really useful. We now own three homes (one with positive cash flow ever since time of purchase, another building equity like crazy), and we just sold a fourth one for $78,000 more than we paid for it, one year later.

None of our purchases have been "no money down" (but I don't doubt it can be done). I think the most valuable "take-away" from his course has been the ability to understand the value of real estate investing and to think positively about finding solutions in order to make it happen. There is always a way.

At any rate, I see a lot of griping on this site about Carlton, and it just kind of bugs me because from where I sit, he's just a guy offering an educational product (yes, for a price) which is from my experience a really good value for someone who wants to learn about real estate. It may not be the only tool kit you use, but there is certainly nothing wrong with it from what I have seen.

I suspect some of the complaints about inability to return the items have been sour grapes at the person's own laziness in not returning them within the agreed-upon time, which is admittedly one of the reasons these types of things are even more profitable (it's human nature), but sorry - if you are outside the terms of a contract, that is your responsibility, not the seller's. I would hope that Carlton Sheets resolves any issues of overbilling when they become aware of it, and I suspect that they do (it's bad business not to, and any sensible business owner knows word gets around).

At any rate, the forms are worth it (We have used them many times now, the rental ones especially), and the CDs are also really beneficial even if you don't wind up trying to buy "creatively".

The real estate forms portfolio alone is worth the cost of the kit.

We purchased Carlton's course about six years ago, before buying our first home, and have found the real estate education to have been really useful. We now own three homes (one with positive cash flow ever since time of purchase, another building equity like crazy), and we just sold a fourth one for $78,000 more than we paid for it, one year later.

None of our purchases have been "no money down" (but I don't doubt it can be done). I think the most valuable "take-away" from his course has been the ability to understand the value of real estate investing and to think positively about finding solutions in order to make it happen. There is always a way.

At any rate, I see a lot of griping on this site about Carlton, and it just kind of bugs me because from where I sit, he's just a guy offering an educational product (yes, for a price) which is from my experience a really good value for someone who wants to learn about real estate. It may not be the only tool kit you use, but there is certainly nothing wrong with it from what I have seen.

I suspect some of the complaints about inability to return the items have been sour grapes at the person's own laziness in not returning them within the agreed-upon time, which is admittedly one of the reasons these types of things are even more profitable (it's human nature), but sorry - if you are outside the terms of a contract, that is your responsibility, not the seller's. I would hope that Carlton Sheets resolves any issues of overbilling when they become aware of it, and I suspect that they do (it's bad business not to, and any sensible business owner knows word gets around).

At any rate, the forms are worth it (We have used them many times now, the rental ones especially), and the CDs are also really beneficial even if you don't wind up trying to buy "creatively".

The real estate forms portfolio alone is worth the cost of the kit.

We purchased Carlton's course about six years ago, before buying our first home, and have found the real estate education to have been really useful. We now own three homes (one with positive cash flow ever since time of purchase, another building equity like crazy), and we just sold a fourth one for $78,000 more than we paid for it, one year later.

None of our purchases have been "no money down" (but I don't doubt it can be done). I think the most valuable "take-away" from his course has been the ability to understand the value of real estate investing and to think positively about finding solutions in order to make it happen. There is always a way.

At any rate, I see a lot of griping on this site about Carlton, and it just kind of bugs me because from where I sit, he's just a guy offering an educational product (yes, for a price) which is from my experience a really good value for someone who wants to learn about real estate. It may not be the only tool kit you use, but there is certainly nothing wrong with it from what I have seen.

I suspect some of the complaints about inability to return the items have been sour grapes at the person's own laziness in not returning them within the agreed-upon time, which is admittedly one of the reasons these types of things are even more profitable (it's human nature), but sorry - if you are outside the terms of a contract, that is your responsibility, not the seller's. I would hope that Carlton Sheets resolves any issues of overbilling when they become aware of it, and I suspect that they do (it's bad business not to, and any sensible business owner knows word gets around).

At any rate, the forms are worth it (We have used them many times now, the rental ones especially), and the CDs are also really beneficial even if you don't wind up trying to buy "creatively".

Carlton Sheets is about stealing as much money as possible. I just got off the phone with these idiots explaining that I gave permission for someone to use my card for the initial 300 and some dollars but not for the extra 224 dollars of stuff they pushed on him afterwards- They will only say the person with the account has to call- It is my credit card and I have told them i do not want it used further. If anyone does get a class action suit together ... Please let me know- I hate this company worse than any company I have ever dealt with - shoot I hate Carlton Sheets worse than the IRS.

You people need to stop buying stuff from infomericals on TV. They spend more time and money on the infomerical than they do on the product. 99 percent of these products don't do s**t like they are supposed to. The only thing I've heard that worked well is the "ronco showtime BBQ" a friend of mine has 5 of them and raves about them

Anyone who is foolish enough not to know what a $10.00 30 day TRIAL is asking for trouble.

Carlton Sheets is on the air because you people buy his products - also remember two key words "unique expierence shown" meaning your not going to make that kind of money unless your VERY lucky.

What Carlton needs to do on future infomericals is put the WHOLE price INCLUDING S&H on clear large text where we can all read it. In a way this is false advertising. He claims he has an "iron clad money back guarantee" but from what i've read that's bull sheep also.

BE VERY CAREFUL with real estate as you can go bankrupt very fast. Think about it.. you buy the house you have a mortgage (sp?) on the house you rent the house how in the hell unless you rent it for $1,200 a month or higher can you make a profit! THINK ABOUT THAT folks before you pull your credit card out.

+ you have insurance, taxes etc etc unless you have money to start with it's not worth it to become a landlord.

When u call customer service to get your return authorization number, it is the representatives job to A) push you to keep the product for an additional 30 days B) Offer you a 50% discount on there specific merchandise and finally C) allow your return.

Heres the deal if you just send the product back without calling them, they do have a hard time figuring out who's package it is. Second of all they make it hard on themselves due to the fact that in the time while i worked there they changed there return address 3x.

Alot of the reps in customer service do a great job, they tell you about all the extras and give you the #s of who u have to call.

But unfortunately the company wants to keep cost low, so they dont have enough reps. When I worked there, I remember looking at the que thruought the day and seeing more than 100 callers waiting to get thru, reps cant go home until that que is empty, so as the day winds down they get tired and stressed out and forget things.

As the consumer it is your responsibility to ask about everything that was delivered to your door. Or you may end up being charged by there affiliates/ or seperate company's (thats bs) they sit on the next aisle over, ther problem is they keep the call center seperate and make it harder on the customer and themselves.

When i left the company it was for several reasons, one of which was the new call centers president inability to not harass me and other representatives, and several of the good reps left shortly after i did. I have spoke with a couple reps still with the company and it sounds like, not only is the customer getting took but so are those customer service reps.

For instance they fired that president for taking advantage of the bonus program and not paying the reps for the work that they do. The program does work, but you cant be lazy, property and money is not gonna just jump into your hand, you actually have to read the material and put in the effort. I know the program does work from personal experience, do i feel its worth $300 "no".

All that info is out there and is very easily found VIA the internet or hell just talking to multiple property landlords, contractors, and your local financial advisor(like any of us can afford one of them). The point is if you wanna own rental property's those property's are not gonna be workfree, so why would anyone expect just ordering the program to work for them. Its called work for a reason.

In the end if you want to return that package during the 30 days the easiest way to ensure you dont get charged is to wait on hold, and get the info from the reps, and remember those poor reps are not the ones ripping you off its calrton himself. I met the man, he is a pompass a*s. those reps have to work somewhere they have families as well, and unfortunately in chicago are customer service positions, as of lately are few and far between.

When u call customer service to get your return authorization number, it is the representatives job to A) push you to keep the product for an additional 30 days B) Offer you a 50% discount on there specific merchandise and finally C) allow your return.

Heres the deal if you just send the product back without calling them, they do have a hard time figuring out who's package it is. Second of all they make it hard on themselves due to the fact that in the time while i worked there they changed there return address 3x.

Alot of the reps in customer service do a great job, they tell you about all the extras and give you the #s of who u have to call.

But unfortunately the company wants to keep cost low, so they dont have enough reps. When I worked there, I remember looking at the que thruought the day and seeing more than 100 callers waiting to get thru, reps cant go home until that que is empty, so as the day winds down they get tired and stressed out and forget things.

As the consumer it is your responsibility to ask about everything that was delivered to your door. Or you may end up being charged by there affiliates/ or seperate company's (thats bs) they sit on the next aisle over, ther problem is they keep the call center seperate and make it harder on the customer and themselves.

When i left the company it was for several reasons, one of which was the new call centers president inability to not harass me and other representatives, and several of the good reps left shortly after i did. I have spoke with a couple reps still with the company and it sounds like, not only is the customer getting took but so are those customer service reps.

For instance they fired that president for taking advantage of the bonus program and not paying the reps for the work that they do. The program does work, but you cant be lazy, property and money is not gonna just jump into your hand, you actually have to read the material and put in the effort. I know the program does work from personal experience, do i feel its worth $300 "no".

All that info is out there and is very easily found VIA the internet or hell just talking to multiple property landlords, contractors, and your local financial advisor(like any of us can afford one of them). The point is if you wanna own rental property's those property's are not gonna be workfree, so why would anyone expect just ordering the program to work for them. Its called work for a reason.

In the end if you want to return that package during the 30 days the easiest way to ensure you dont get charged is to wait on hold, and get the info from the reps, and remember those poor reps are not the ones ripping you off its calrton himself. I met the man, he is a pompass a*s. those reps have to work somewhere they have families as well, and unfortunately in chicago are customer service positions, as of lately are few and far between.

When u call customer service to get your return authorization number, it is the representatives job to A) push you to keep the product for an additional 30 days B) Offer you a 50% discount on there specific merchandise and finally C) allow your return.

Heres the deal if you just send the product back without calling them, they do have a hard time figuring out who's package it is. Second of all they make it hard on themselves due to the fact that in the time while i worked there they changed there return address 3x.

Alot of the reps in customer service do a great job, they tell you about all the extras and give you the #s of who u have to call.

But unfortunately the company wants to keep cost low, so they dont have enough reps. When I worked there, I remember looking at the que thruought the day and seeing more than 100 callers waiting to get thru, reps cant go home until that que is empty, so as the day winds down they get tired and stressed out and forget things.

As the consumer it is your responsibility to ask about everything that was delivered to your door. Or you may end up being charged by there affiliates/ or seperate company's (thats bs) they sit on the next aisle over, ther problem is they keep the call center seperate and make it harder on the customer and themselves.

When i left the company it was for several reasons, one of which was the new call centers president inability to not harass me and other representatives, and several of the good reps left shortly after i did. I have spoke with a couple reps still with the company and it sounds like, not only is the customer getting took but so are those customer service reps.

For instance they fired that president for taking advantage of the bonus program and not paying the reps for the work that they do. The program does work, but you cant be lazy, property and money is not gonna just jump into your hand, you actually have to read the material and put in the effort. I know the program does work from personal experience, do i feel its worth $300 "no".

All that info is out there and is very easily found VIA the internet or hell just talking to multiple property landlords, contractors, and your local financial advisor(like any of us can afford one of them). The point is if you wanna own rental property's those property's are not gonna be workfree, so why would anyone expect just ordering the program to work for them. Its called work for a reason.

In the end if you want to return that package during the 30 days the easiest way to ensure you dont get charged is to wait on hold, and get the info from the reps, and remember those poor reps are not the ones ripping you off its calrton himself. I met the man, he is a pompass a*s. those reps have to work somewhere they have families as well, and unfortunately in chicago are customer service positions, as of lately are few and far between.

When u call customer service to get your return authorization number, it is the representatives job to A) push you to keep the product for an additional 30 days B) Offer you a 50% discount on there specific merchandise and finally C) allow your return.

Heres the deal if you just send the product back without calling them, they do have a hard time figuring out who's package it is. Second of all they make it hard on themselves due to the fact that in the time while i worked there they changed there return address 3x.

Alot of the reps in customer service do a great job, they tell you about all the extras and give you the #s of who u have to call.

But unfortunately the company wants to keep cost low, so they dont have enough reps. When I worked there, I remember looking at the que thruought the day and seeing more than 100 callers waiting to get thru, reps cant go home until that que is empty, so as the day winds down they get tired and stressed out and forget things.

As the consumer it is your responsibility to ask about everything that was delivered to your door. Or you may end up being charged by there affiliates/ or seperate company's (thats bs) they sit on the next aisle over, ther problem is they keep the call center seperate and make it harder on the customer and themselves.

When i left the company it was for several reasons, one of which was the new call centers president inability to not harass me and other representatives, and several of the good reps left shortly after i did. I have spoke with a couple reps still with the company and it sounds like, not only is the customer getting took but so are those customer service reps.

For instance they fired that president for taking advantage of the bonus program and not paying the reps for the work that they do. The program does work, but you cant be lazy, property and money is not gonna just jump into your hand, you actually have to read the material and put in the effort. I know the program does work from personal experience, do i feel its worth $300 "no".

All that info is out there and is very easily found VIA the internet or hell just talking to multiple property landlords, contractors, and your local financial advisor(like any of us can afford one of them). The point is if you wanna own rental property's those property's are not gonna be workfree, so why would anyone expect just ordering the program to work for them. Its called work for a reason.

In the end if you want to return that package during the 30 days the easiest way to ensure you dont get charged is to wait on hold, and get the info from the reps, and remember those poor reps are not the ones ripping you off its calrton himself. I met the man, he is a pompass a*s. those reps have to work somewhere they have families as well, and unfortunately in chicago are customer service positions, as of lately are few and far between.

I work for the company in question. I can tell you that most customers never know their evaluation time unless they call to get it after they get their packages. It is not required by our company to send this information to them nor do we send a billing invoice. I get so many calls each day and I do sympathize with the majority of customers, but we are being recorded during our calls, so I have to be careful as to what I say. Also a lot of customers end up with the extra items and during the sales calls , the slaes reps push a lot of extra items to view for the same 30 day trial, but it seems they neglect to tell the cusotmers of the extra charges after 30 days. The ONLY reason I continue to work for this company is I have children to support being a single parent. I do not in any way agree with the majority of their sales practices and know for a fact, they rip cusotmers off. We go through constant training to resell the sale of the products when customers try to return.I am always happy to do a return , when possible, for a customer.Just keep your 9.95 or 10.95 and don't order this !

You said your card co said they could only get part of your $ back-- tell them the price was not as described, and that is the basis for your dispute. You made the merchandise available to them when you requested the RMA#, which is your only obligation on merchanidse which is not as described. If they have not already tried to charge all of it back, they need to what they originally didn't on the above basis. Too bad if the merchant says you didn't return it- not only was the price not as originally advertised and agreed to, but their 30-day return policy was obviously not prperly disclosed to you. If your card co's chargeback dept is worth a crap, they will know how to play this game with the merchant's bank.

If they already charged back all charges and had to rebill your account part of it with that lame excuse about the return, (which doesn't make any sense-it would be all or nothing), then they are being negligent in the chargeback process, as they should have answered the merchant's rebuttal with the fact that you are not responsible for the return of merchandise not as described (or defective, FYI), and that the merchandise is still available for return to them at their expense. Make them work for you!!

Many people are pessimists about programs and services they see on TV. Carleton Sheets program has been around for many years and for most of those years, I thought it was a ripoff. I decided to buy the program and try it. I did the $9.95 deal and looked over the program. I decided to keep the program but return some of the extra videos that I did not want. The customer service people were very helpful and I had no problems with the process. I found the program to be very informative and offer some good ideas for real estate investing. I believe that any educational program is an investment in my future success. If I only get one idea from the program, it was worth it. The problem with most people is they want the benefits the knowledge of a program can give them without putting in any effort. If you refuse to take action and try some of the ideas in a program, how can you say if it is a rip-off or not. I would not use some of the methods Carleton Sheets suggests. Others I would. Most of the complaints I see are related to people who impulsively bought a product then refused to use it and became angry with themselves for not improving their lives. In that misery, they decided to bad mouth someone that is actually putting himself out there and taking action. I think Mr. Sheets does not really care what someone who is sitting on the couch refusing to change thinks about a product they never looked at in depth. Change your life and stop blaming other people.

After seeing this program on t.v. this morning I immeadietly went to the rip off report. I knew this man had to be on there. Sure enough I was right. I wondered why they never mentioned the price of the program. This is kept a secret.

No one is going to be on t.v. sharing there vaulabe time telling you how you can become rich overnight if you order there program. Human beings are to selfish to share such a vaulbe revelation for $9.95 red flags should be going up everywhere. As far as no money down that is true but if you have losy credit forget it. This is not going to happen. My suggestion would be take to small claims court. Chances are very good in your favor the scumbags won't even show. Contact attorney general in your state. Taking money from your account without authorization in writting is a criminal offense. Check with bank also local law enforcement on the proper charge that can be charged. No one can do this for this is theft. If you want to be techinal about it. Always send certifed or registered mail so they can't say they didn't get it.

All those that was suckered in by this scumbag should get together contact an attorney for class action suit. Most of these charcters that offered these type of get rich schemes are already in the pen where they belong. It is just a matter of time till this dude goes to. Contact 20-20 get there number from information in New York this is right down there alley. Once again thanks for the rip of report. After finding this site if I am thinking about doing business I check it out here. We can put them out of business.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:

Their email: TheFraudChick@aol.com
Their name: The Fraud Chick

Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion

Rebuttal:
I'm writing this as an informational piece to anyone who may become enthused about Carleton Sheets program after reading KB's personal story. Here it is:


Carlton Sheets; AKA Carelton Sheets, AKA Carleton Sheets, AKA Carleton the Charleton, AKA Carleton Cheats. He goes by many names and is virtually the only one left of the infomercial kings who touts "no-money down' real estate schemes. Key in Carlton Sheets on an Internet search engine and you will get the Carelton and Carleton spellings as well. Carleton is his
supposed real name but he's known as Carlton on the web and I've seen Carelton in a legal format. Perhaps his mother is the only one who knows for sure.

If you can't stand it any longer and simply MUST know Sheet's secret to success I'll tell you for free. Carleton makes his money from infomercials on how to buy real estate no money down-end of discussion.

If you just can't help yourself and think I'm trying to keep you from a great money making opportunity, which it's not, then buy the tapes. But please don't pay thousands of dollars or hundreds for them. You can get them on eBay or other places on the Internet for a few bucks, I'm talking $20 or less. I think that the very fact that so many used Sheets tapes are for sale online for rock-bottom dollar is an indictment on the whole
program.

You be the judge.

The Fraud Chick

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: cptus@yahoo.com

Their name: kb



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

I read a few of the comments and I agree with many but not all of the them.



Let me tell you all about my experience with the Carlton Sheets setup.



Several month's or maybe a year or so ago, I order the "No Money Down" system. After receiving the packet I kept it for about two weeks and then returned it.

I returned it because:

. I was told I would be billed in three installments, yet they

charged me for the entire fee in one lump sum.



. I called them and asked, what was the problem and they had no

answers that were satisfactory to me.



. In short, they were trying to get over on me! Needless to say

I returned the packet, called my credit card company and did not pay a

nickel. Props to my credit card Company.



. Issue at hand: Can you buy real Estate with "No Money Down"?



Answer: YES!!!!!

How do I know: Because I did It. (This had nothing to do with Carlton

Sheets or any other product on the market)



I purchased my home:

. "No Money Down"

. Not even closing cost

. Walked away from closing with a

check ($$ in my pocket)

SO IT CAN BE DONE



REMEMBER: "NO MONEY DOWN" from my perspective means "NONE OF MY OWN

MONEY" Creative financing will allow you to use someone elses money, if

you have the know how.



FINALLY: I am NOT recommending you buy any product on the market but the

key to success is KNOWLEDGE not luck. Learn as much as you can about the

task at hand.



DON'T be discouraged. Some of the strategies DO WORK.

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: kmitchell@kc.rr.com

Their name: Robert Walter



Their relationship to the company: Owner



Rebuttal:



I have simply talked to Owners at Century21 and called a few other places to really check Carelton Sheets out and all the Qus I ask them are all said to be not true, simply " BullShit "

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: kmitchell@kc.rr.com

Their name: Robert Walter



Their relationship to the company: Owner



Rebuttal:



I have simply talked to Owners at Century21 and called a few other places to really check Carelton Sheets out and all the Qus I ask them are all said to be not true, simply " BullShit "

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: kmitchell@kc.rr.com

Their name: Robert Walter



Their relationship to the company: Owner



Rebuttal:



I have simply talked to Owners at Century21 and called a few other places to really check Carelton Sheets out and all the Qus I ask them are all said to be not true, simply " BullShit "

They filed the following rebuttal to the above Rip-Off Report:



Their email: TheFraudChick@aol.com

Their name: The Fraud Chick



Their relationship to the company: Consumer Suggestion



Rebuttal:

You don't need Carlton Sheet's permission to return the product. Return it registered mail immediately and then file chargebacks on every single debit they made to your account. Sheets should have no "say so" with your cradit card company on what charges should remain and what charges should not. It's your card and if you feel he's pulling a con game then you have

the right to have those charges to be removed. Wouldn't it be awful if cons had the last word with credit card companies?



Just go ahead and do it. I admire you for coming to your senses so early in the game--many people lose their entire savings before they see the light.



Good Luck

The Fraud Chick