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Complaint Review: Carson Lowe Investigations

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  • Submitted: Thu, January 08, 2009
  • Updated: Wed, February 15, 2012

  • Reported By:Federal Way Washington
Carson Lowe Investigations
225 W Hospitality Ln # 200. San Bernardino, California U.S.A.

Carson Lowe Investigations Malfeasanc in California Government & Courts - Fleecing & Stalking by Private Investigators San Bernardino California

*Consumer Comment: Carson Lowe Investigations saved my son's life

*Author of original report: The Reason RipOffReport Can't Be Sued (and why it's forever)

*Author of original report: This Good Cop - Bad Cop Routine is Getting Old

*Consumer Comment: Response to Miriyam

*Author of original report: It's Called Gang Stalking

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Students Questions

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Linking to Other Sites, an Interesting Tactic

*General Comment: YOUR TROUBLES ARE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN MINE AGAINST CAROL SCIANNAMEO GULFPORT FL

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The California law that governs private investigators is California Business & Profession Code Section 7521. The California Bureau of Security & Investigative Services (BSIS) handles complaints against private investigators. Section 7561.1. states

"The director may deny, suspend, or revoke a license issued under this chapter if he or she determines that the licensee or his or her manager, if an individual, or if the licensee is a person other than an individual, that any of its officers, directors, partners, or its manager, has:.
(g) Willfully failed or refused to render to a client services or a report as agreed between the parties and for which compensation has been paid or tendered in accordance with the agreement of the parties.

I filed SEVERAL complaints with the BSIS due to private investigators engaging in behavior which according to California Penal Code 653m amounts to cyberstalking/harassment including the one against Carson Lowe whom I retained to help me with the resolution of an ongoing real life stalking that involves the use of the internet and other mechanisms (electronic & other surveillance).

I filed a complaint with the BSIS not only because he refused to provide me with the report for which I paid him even after being sent a demand letter by an attorney (further expense), but because of many of the things he said to me indicating that he was with 1. stalking me by proxy (on behalf of someone else) or 2. one of the original stalkers not yet identified. This behavior closely mirrored that of the International Web Police who got me to send them all of my information so that they could do an investigation on my behalf, but then once they had my information Peter Hampton indicated to me that I was the subject of their investigation (see the link at the end of this report for more information on the Web Police).

After the BSIS failed to take any action in spite of Mr. Lowe's refusal being a clear licensing violation, the BSIS instructed me to sue him in small claims court which I did (California Small Claims Case #05S01922). Mr. Lowe showed up in court with nothing but his phone bills as evidence while I provided Judge Torres with our original agreement, copies of the checks I paid him with, a transcript of voice mail messages left by him & his associate in which they state that they are diligently working on my report, as well as the demand letter from the attorney showing the date the statute of limitation began to run when he refused to comply with the demand letter by turning over the report for which he had been paid. I provided the written transcript in addition to a DVD containing the original audio files so that Judge Torres didn't have to listen to them in case that was too cumbersome for him and as proof that the transcripts were accurate.

The hearing was a farce. To add insult to injury, Mr. Lowe used it as an opportunity to not only defame me, something not to be expected from someone whom you have paid money to help you. He stated amoung other vile things that she is the most hateful and hated person on the internet. He obviously spent SOME time doing an investigation on which he could have provided a report but chose not to.

As the plaintiff I was allowed to speak last. I used that opportunity to make the point of reminding Judge Torres that when the attorney I retained sent Mr. Lowe the demand letter, the demand WAS NOT for money. It was only for the report he had been promising me. Since he refused to provide it, my only recourse was a request for a refund of my money and the date of the letter was within the 4 year statute of limitation for the date of harm on a written contract.

What I was unaware of during the hearing was that contained in the case file were documents produced by the BSIS in response to a subpoena duces tecum I had issued that I REALLY needed to see but to which I was not allowed access. They only allowed me to see them after the hearing, but in retrospect seeing them beforehand may not have made any difference.

Mr. Lowe had submitted to the BSIS as evidence of my aforementioned hateful character, a score of internet postings made to racist & sex sites, purportedly made by me but which weren't. This, in my opinion, indicates that at least in this regard, he's not even as competent as I am, when it comes to investigating internet crimes if he's unable to make the distinction between a real posting and a spoof (forgery). I have succesfully traced and identified in real life, individuals hiding in cyberspace, yet Mr. Lowe who was unable to do the same for me, felt entitled to keep the $3,000 which he was paid without providing me with ANYTHING that I could use in a court of law.

He also painted me in a very false light and by making some of the comments that he did, violated not only the confidentiality covered by the previously stated section of the Business & Professions Code (because he obviously wasn't working for me) he further purpetuated the stalking.

Luring a person into a relationship [business inclusive] for the purpose of using said priviledge to perpetuate a crime (the crime of stalking, for example) is a violation of both state and federal law. Or to put it another way, enticing a party into a contract with no intentions of honoring the terms of the contract is considered fraud. (see below for citations & also Frank Coonis link)

Judge Torres ruled against me, taking the erroneous position that the statute of limitations had lapsed on our agreement and also because "in his opinion" Mr. Lowe had already provided me with a report (he referenced the Case Evaluation I provided the court, dated May 5, 2001 provided to me BEFORE I retained Mr. Lowe).

From that point on Judge Torres, presiding Judge Meigs in concert with a myriad of courtroom employees proceeded to prevent any legal correction to his mistake by losing my documents, refusing to file my documents, misplacing my documents, misquoting the law and the out and out denial of my rights to a legal remedy for the judge's error.

I have uploaded copies of most of these document including the audio voice mail messages left by him and his associate, copies of the cashier's check with which I paid him, evidence of the ineptitude of the BSIS to conduct an investigation even when the evidence is handed to them, as well as postings to Alt.Private.Investigator where a major portion of the stalkers congregated.
That is stored here:
(((link redacted)))

I also have additional reports against the other private investigators involved listed at the hyperlinks below:

California Licensed Frank Coonis Investigations (completed)
(((link redacted)))

Individuals Masquerading as California Investigators (unlicensed) Steven Thomas Moffenbier/Jerry Thomas (incomplete)
(((link redacted)))

Future Reports:
California Licensed Investigator Marvin Coffey
(((link redacted)))
(email links)

The now defunct Web Police
(((link redacted)))
Gang Stalking (will contain links to email correspondence, proof of service, etc.)

BellSouth, SBC, CingularWireless, AT&T docs (including threats)
(((link redacted)))

Mariyam
Federal Way, Washington
U.S.A.

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This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/08/2009 04:30 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Carson-Lowe-Investigations/San-Bernardino-California-92408/Carson-Lowe-Investigations-Malfeasanc-in-California-Government-Courts-Fleecing-Stalk-409485. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Carson Lowe Investigations saved my son's life

AUTHOR: Patience - (United States of America)

I have no clue how you had such a negative experience with Carson Lowe, but I used his services a few years ago and was Googling his name because I still owe him money and am finally able to pay some of it back.

When I left the Army, I had to hunt down my drug addicted ex husband who had our son.  He was abusive and I just KNEW it.  I couldn't prove it alone.

Carson went out on a limb and helped me get evidence that saved my son's life.  Not only did he find my kid, do what was needed to help me get him, but he ALSO cut me a HUGE break, financially.  He would have rather given me his report than get paid because there was a moral issue at hand.

YEARS later, I still owe him a grand.  He never cared.  He just wanted to do right because it was the right thing to do.

Bottom line: I'm disgusted to read your report.  I've referred many people to him and nobody I've ever sent his way has ever had a problem.  He's VERY good and VERY kind!
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#2 Author of original report

The Reason RipOffReport Can't Be Sued (and why it's forever)

AUTHOR: Mariyam - (USA)

It has to do with the fact that they allege that they don't moderate, censor or modify the complaints which gives them "immunity" under the CDA.   

The reality however is that anyone can say anything they want on the the internet and a lot of people do.  They do it for revenge, they do it because they can and they do it because they are so convinced that just because they're posting anonymously that no one will ever find them in real life let alone make them pay in any meaningful way for their actions. 

This has happened to me which is why before I made any of my complaints I emailed Ripoffreport and asked them if their site allowed me to upload the documentary evidence I had corrobarating my allegations.  I was assured that I could, yet as you can see the links to the evidence were redacted.

By not allowing anyone to see my evidence which substantiates my claims, Ripoffreport cast me into the same light as all the other people who are utilizing the site as one more tool in their cyberstalking arsenal. 

Deleting text is just as damning as adding something that is untrue, if by it's absence it casts doubt upon the validity of the whole.

 

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#3 Author of original report

This Good Cop - Bad Cop Routine is Getting Old

AUTHOR: Mariyam - (USA)

This information has been here for well over a year and in one day I get a ton of emails regarding updates to my complaint and they are all nothing but additional private investigators giving their "opinion" on what is supposedly a misunderstanding?  You state the courts determine what can be used or not.  Well "nothing" is pretty hard to present for consideration, especially for the price $3,000 when one can listen to the voice mail messages left for me promising me an investigative report that never materialized.


The last time I talked to the Bureau they stated that Mr. Lowe was indeed, at that point, in violation of the administrative code and would not be eligible to have his license renewed.  Whether or not they actually followed up on this I have no idea because at that point I was only concerned with two things - one of them being going back to court so that I could capture ALL of their lies on a medium that can be preserved FOREVER as you say, which I've done.


The other thing is PROVING that someone is stalking me inter-state.  I find it more than a little coincidental that I encountered a guy in the airport on the day I flew down to LAX to attend court with Mr. Lowe who just happened to have a whole lot of information regarding Redlands, California - the defendant's (Lowe) last service of process address.  I have that conversation preserved as well since people like to accuse me of making up stuff.  It's also beyond coincidental, in my opinion that this guy in the airport goes by the same first name as an investigative journalist whom I contacted via email regarding California private investigators who are stalkers whether directly or via proxy (on behalf of someone else) and the problems I'd been having at the Inglewood courthouse.


Whatever happens to the lot of them now, I couldn't care less but I am certainly not above passing along any of my evidence files to anyone who can use them including any law enforcement or governmental agency who takes an interest in licensed and unlicensed private investigators stalking private citizens.  Afterall it was a private investigator who provided Rebecca Shaeffer's home address to Robert Bardo who then rang her doorbell and killed her and was the reason for the change in California DMV law. 


At the end of the day, nobody made them do the things they did.  I've learned a lot from observing them displaying the very worse of human behavior.  I've received every single one of their covert threats and have saved each and every one of them.  And the worse possible mistake anyone could ever make is to believe than nothing can be done as I have been repeatedly told. 


It's time to put up or shut up.  Bring it.

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Response to Miriyam

AUTHOR: Carol Sciannameo - (USA)

My attention was called to your posting when an individual who has been posting about me for many years commented on your post using my name.  In fact, she has been posting about my company when it did not even exist. 

Her allegations are against me personally, and for some reason it has spun off against my company.  If you were to check the Florida Division of Corporations and the Florida Division of Licensing, it would be apparent that I did not become licensed until 2003, after reaching a settlement with this individual over allegations made in 2001. 

In any event, I do not know the private investigator you speak of in the posting, nor do I know the entire saga of what was promised, and what was delivered.  I do not know you either.  I cannot second guess who was right or who was wrong, nor do I want to.

Through the postings of this individual who signed your rebuttal as April H, I am finding that there are many people truly dissastified with services and products, and I am learning this system in an oddly interesting fashion.

I do know, however, that the beauty of using licensed investigators is the recourse you are afforded by virtue of the licensing commission, and in your posting you stated that it is the California Business & Profession Code.  In Florida it is statute 493, and it falls under the Florida Department of Agriculture, Division of Licensing.

I am saddened that the system did not give you the result you desired in your case.  In the seven years I have been in business, I have had over 800 cases and I had two dissatisfied customers.  One woman misunderstood my stating that I was on "her side" to mean that I would fabricate evidence to have it become supportive to her case.  When I explained that evidence stands alone, and that when I mean I am "on your side" it is to mean that I strive to get to the truth of the matter.  In any event, it ended up in court, I got a judgment against her, and ended up not pursuing it as it was such a small sum it would have cost me more to pursue than to let it go.  The other is an ongoing situation where I may not have clearly explained or the client did not clearly understand what was expected, and we are in the "working through the details" phase.

I try to resolve differences and misunderstandings with clients in a way where the client is always right, but where it is assumed that by the time they come to me, they are in the position to trust that I have the expertise to investigate in the most prudent and competent manner.  I believe that most of us in the field believe that we are doing this, but at times, communication can get mixed up and we find ourselves at odds.  Sometimes I get a client who wants to direct each and every move that I make, and the beauty of owning my own business is that I can fire my clients!  If a client becomes too pushy and tells me how to conduct an investigation, I gently invite them to find another investigator, and refund any sums that are due to them beyond the billing for the time and services that have already been offered.  I am also sure that there are probably some very unethical private investigators and agencies out there preying upon people.  I am in no way saying that this is the case with the ones you complain of, it is just a general statement.

There are times, however, where no matter what I do and how hard I work at a case I cannot achieve the desired objective.  In this business, we generally charge for time, not results.  As a student of total quality management, which is results oriented (and being a professor at the college level) this seems quite the dichotomy.  The way I explain it to clients is like this:  you may hire me to do 40 hours surveillance to capture a public display of affection of a cheating spouse, and I may sit in the field watching the house or the intended target location for that amount of time, and the couple could be in the house with the flu, and never leave the house.  I understand that I did not achieve the objective, however, does that mean I am not to be paid for the time I worked on your case?

That is why, as do attorneys, we work from retainer, as clients sometimes have unrealistic expectations of what can and cannot be done.  I attribute this to the television factor.  There are so many shows on television that relate to investigations, that people believe that we always solve the crime, that we always have the answer and many times, no matter how much experience we have or how well we conduct the investigation, what the client wants to happen does not happen.  I often jokingly say to a client who is getting carried away (jokingly), "my crystal ball is broken today," and this generally breaks the ice enough to get us back on track.

It is as frustrating for an investigator as it is for the client (even though the client is paying) when an objective is not met through no fault of our own.

When I further read your post, I noted that you state, "he felt entitled to keep the $3,000 which he was paid without providing me with ANYTHING that I could use in a court of law."  Interestingly enough, in Florida, and I do not know if the same holds true in California, we, as private investigators are not the ones to make the determination what can and cannot be used in a court of law. 

Often clients call me and ask me to get certain evidence for their case, and often they call me from out of state, and I ask them, "have you asked your attorney if you need this in court, and if it can be used on your behalf."  Being an investigator for so many years, I know that sometimes, evidence can be exculpatory, and can be used against you, and from and ethical perspective, I like to tell my clients that one who holds the key to what can and cannot be used for their case is an attorney.  There are times that cases come in where people "just want to know," where they believe a spouse or partner is cheating, where they believe they are being double dealt in business, and their goal is to terminate the relationship and they do not intend to go to court, and I tell them that I will take the case.  Still I am never the one to determine if anything I get for them can be used in court.  I tell them that I have experience gathering, processing, preserving evidence and testifying, but I am not the judge, the CPL or other deciding entity in the CJ system.

When I see a situation like this, here on this site, where neither party has resolution and it ends up in this public forum, I feel for both parties.  It is much like airing one's dirty laundry.  I am not saying that was the intent at the onset of the posting, it is just what it is.

Being a student of philosophy and in particular of Aristotle, I tend to believe in the good in people and always err in the direction of believing that most people are trying to do the right thing.  It is a pretty untainted view from someone who served 20 years on a police department, but it is truly the view I take.

The unfortunate thing about a site like this one is that is stays forever, and no matter who initiates the first post and who completes the last post, it remains and lives on the internet.  The more hits it gets, the higher ranking it gets in search engines, and it tends to take on a life of its own.  Even if, at some point in your life, or in the life of the other party there is a regret, an opportunity to make an amend, all this spewing of negativity closes the door pretty tightly. 

When I read your post it says that you filed several complaints with the BSIS due to private investigators and ultimately against this one.  I am sorry that you did not get the resolution you desired throughout this process.

I have learned alot about this site and the redaction policy from your posts, and through your misfortune, I understand a bit more about the system herein.  I thank you for clarifying where the information can be found as it helped me to find some of the things that were redacted from my posts.

Unfortunately, this site does what it wants, its claim to fame is that it cannot be sued and that it does not remove anything, and therefore it is in ultimate control of the information it has posted thereon.  In my opinion, it fosters further damage and perpetuates grudges and negativity, allowing us to remain stuck in the incident and not in the best position move forward and leave it behind.

From my perspective, it is sensationalism just as is paparazzi, and for the most part an annoyance.  We live in an age where I believe sometimes, we are bombarded with too much information.  On that note, I will thank you again for helping with the redaction issue and hope that you can find the resolution you desire.

 

 

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#5 Author of original report

It's Called Gang Stalking

AUTHOR: Mariyam - (USA)

This is what this is really all about: 
(if the URL is redacted do a search on "Gang Stalking" FAQs)
http://gangstalkingworld.com/United/index.php/Main/GS101


Also, tbhe Ripoffreport site redacted the URLs which display all of the evidence of every allegation made in my reports.  If I post them again I would expect that they will redact them again.  But they should still able to be found with a search engine like Google.


There are three supplemental reports for the three investigator I filed a complaint against.  I created the supplemental reports by developing individual webpages for each of them.  The language is ASP.net so the pages have the extension of .aspx. 


The report names are standardized - they begin with RipOffReport  followed by the investigators name.  The domain name where they live is stalkinginterventionsinc.org.  So if you wanted to find the supplementary report for investigator Carson Lowe you'd look for a paged called RipOffReportCarsonLowe with the .aspx extension located under the stalkinginterventionsinc.org domain name (prefaced with http://).  The pages are called:


RipOffReportCarsonLowe
RipOffReportMoffenbier
RipOffReportFrankCoonis


http://stalkinginterventionsinc.org/RipOffReportCarsonLowe.aspx
http://stalkinginterventionsinc.org/RipOffReportMoffenbier,aspx
http://stalkinginterventionsinc.org/RipOffReportFrankCoonis.aspx


Please Note:  Frank Coonis actually refunded my money since they never provided me with the subpoenas Matt was supposed to create for me but RipOffReport has not allowed me to update the report.

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Students Questions

AUTHOR: Carol Sciannameo - (USA)

In answer to questions from students, the best way to find the liens and judgments that this complainant has filed against myself and others in the community, would be to go to the Pinellas County website, and sign in using guest access. 


As Florida is governed by the sunshine laws, all of this is public information and can be accessed by you if you use the right search terms and the right databases.


If you search under any of her full names posted by DA, such as Habib-Howard, April or Howard, April or any other variations posted at the other ripoffreport.com site (when searching Carol Sciannameo or Tampa Bay Investigations) you will find liens against myself (with her listed as a contractor having done work at my home from 2001 to 2006, despite signing a settlement in 2003) against a party Shatswell and a party Scott. 


Anyone enterprising enough who would like to physically go to the courthouse, you will be able to get the physical documents.  Many of the documents may be retrieved by internet access but there are others that can be found at the courthouse.


All of these activities are of the type you will be engaged in when investigators and upon receiving your degrees, and are out in the field in the public or private sector.

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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Linking to Other Sites, an Interesting Tactic

AUTHOR: Carol Sciannameo - (USA)

I am Carol Sciannameo, the owner of Tampa Bay Investigations, an agency that was not owned or operated by me at the time this individual began allegations against me. 

If you search this ripoffreport.com website, using my name, Carol Sciannameo or the name Tampa Bay Investigations, you will find her numerous allegations against me, all of which have been rebutted.  She is unhappy that others can rebutt and now as she has threatened to do, she is attempting to find a site where no one can rebutt.

She wants us all to do as Sammy Cahn wrote for the Frank Sinatra song, "I'm just gonna roll myself up in a big ball and die."

There was an attempt to post on another site ripoffreport.net, but the link is not working.

It is interesting to see to what measures she will go to continue to attempt to ruin my reputation, by linking it to other sites, jumping onto other people's grievances against other companies, and making it all appear as if it were one.

She is trying to silence all those who have come to validate my reputation. 

Fortunately, we are not dumb and we know how to read through these tactics.

Hopefully none of the readers of these rantings will ever fall victim to such retribution.

 

 

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#8 General Comment

YOUR TROUBLES ARE ACTUALLY WORSE THAN MINE AGAINST CAROL SCIANNAMEO GULFPORT FL

AUTHOR: SENIOR''''S SAVINGS STOLEN BY COP - (USA)

I SHUDDERED READING YOUR FILE. I SEE THE INVESTIGATOR HAS USED THE EXACT SAME TACTICS AGAINST YOU AS CAROL SCIANNAMEO, TAMPA BAY INVESTIGATIONS, GULFPORT FLORIDA USED AGAINST ME.

BELITTLING ALL MY DOCUMENTS AS LIES, FORGERIES,  ETC.THIS MUST BE A TECHNIQUE TAUGHT IN PRIVATE INVESTIGATION SCHOOL. SCIANNAMEO ALSO TRIED TO HAVE ME CHARGEWD WITH ' stalking' and the district attorney in pineallas refused to do so.

please read her  rebuttals.

sciannameo breaks the records for riling rebuttals. i see where none of the other private investigators charged with fraud, even bothered to file rebuttals.

wow!

carol sciannameo must be running scared, as she has filed 12 rebuttals, one even claiming to use " my complaints in her crummy on-line-classes in criminology. for which she isn't even paid to teach.

i feel sorry for you.

i feel sorry for all of us. i got embezzled out of $30,000 .00 ++

and i am 73 years old.

i see that the complainst/reports of rippoffs are higest concering

private investigators, especially inf florida, against seniors.

i even have to file against the gulfport chamber of commerce, as the executive director, gregg stemm actually  posted a libelous DEMENTED RAMBLE AGAINST ME.

WHO ELSE HAS BEEN "TOLD TO LEAVE TOWN OR ELSE BY AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

HE HAS BEEN FIRED... BY BY GREMM STEMM, GULFPORT FLORIDA.

MY SYMPATHYS ARE WITH YOU.

WHAT A TERRIBLE INSULT.

APRIL H

TAMPA FLORIDA

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