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Complaint Review: CECNY Consulting and Educational Center of NY - Farmingdale New York

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  • CECNY Consulting and Educational Center of NY 303 Smith Street Suite 7 Farmingdale, New York USA

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*Consumer Comment: A life-changing experience

*Consumer Comment: CEC education is wonderful

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CECNY / Consulting and Education Center of NY transformed my way of thinking into that of a cult member.

 

I experienced their discovery workshop, transformation workshop, and Leaders Journey only to realize that I was indulging in a type of black and white thinking that most people, outside of the cult, could see what was unstable, volatile, happy/angry, and made my mood swing back and forth between a submissive ("surrender") and dictator.

This type of experiential training actually became popular especially in the 1980's with EST. Many people had supposed "breakthroughs" and divulged very personal information to people they just met in the hope of "release" and "surrender." Many of the "trainings" were derived partially from cognitive and behavioral psychology that was used for therapeutic as well as information extraction purposes (ie cognitive, behavioral, physical withdrawal torture from intelligence agencies).

These trainings are supposed to take the place of one on one therapy or professional help but use a collective peer pressure ("workshop") approach. Lectures or "experiences" go on for hours when the participant is deprived of basic necessities - access to the bathroom or food and water. You are made to stand in one place until you can stand no longer. You move until you tire of exertion or thirst. If you cry out for any basic need like food, water, or not urinating or defecating in your pants then you are chastised first publicly and then you are heard out by one of their "trainers" or "coaches" who asks first for your excuses and then eventually gives you a "a second chance" for which you are forever grateful and then are allowed back in for the remainder of the session. It is a constant deprivation-sustenance cycle in which a person loses their sense of self and cedes their power to make desicions for themselves outside the thinking or presence of the organization or one of its trainers / contractors. For example at the end of the Transofrmation Workshop a meal served by LJ groups like that of a servant to his/her masters. This is after you have been deprived of basic needs and feel the most vulnerable.

The speakers will often speak about their personal experiences and that of others to bring you to tears and empathize with them. Many break down and speak about why they are there - death of a loved one, troubled marriage, divorce, drugs, alcohol, substance abuse, unemployment, depression, mental illness, PTSD, rape, crime victim, HIV, terminal illness, lack of drive, desire to improve performace at work or elsewhere and many other purposes. Most of these participants need professional help in a personalized setting or environment with trained professionals for their particular needs. Others come because of a refferal or sponsorship from a family member, acquaintance, colleague, or friend.

However, much trauma and hardships can be sustained by the participants and their families, friends, or coworkers well after the experiences.  

 

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#2 Consumer Comment

A life-changing experience

AUTHOR: Cindy - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, March 03, 2017

I have attended all 3 of CEC's workshops, and I have to say that they were life-changing experiences.  I understand that the workshops can be very uncomfortable at times, but I have never felt deprived of food, water, or any other necessities.  I also didn't have any experience of "having" to do anything that I didn't want to do.  Since taking CEC's workshops, I have begun a spiritual journey that took me to a very different place today than when I started the workshops.  In hindsight, I find that CEC was the beginning of my spiritual awakening for me.  It allowed me to experience a different state of consciousness than I have experienced for most of my adult life.  It is not easy to transcend the ego and experience a higher level of consciousness, and CEC allowed me to do that, over the course of only a few days.  It is what people look to achieve through meditation or any other spiritual practice that they have.  Like any true spiritual practice, it is not an easy path, and it takes a lot of courage, self-discipline, and an open mind in order to engage in it.  You are confronted with many uncomfortable things such as things from the past that you've never dealt with.  It takes a lot of courage in order to truly look at those things and heal from them.  Once you do, you reach the other side, and a level of consciousness that was not available to you before.  That is the best that I can explain it.  It is amazing that CEC's workshops are able to take you to this space in a relatively short period of time.  It takes amazing practice to sustain it after you are done with their training, but it was completely worth it to get a taste, and it gave me the stepping stones to continue on my journey.

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CEC education is wonderful

AUTHOR: Phil - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, April 10, 2016

 Hey Pat. I'm not sure what training you took, but I attended all 3 parts of the CECNY trainings last year and as a result, I have created unbelievable and extraordinary results in my life. The entire premise is that I AM the source and power of all that is created in my life. It's the exact OPPOSITE of "cult". In a cult, you blindly abdicate your power for the benefit of another party, usually the party you are abdicating your power to. CECNY teaches to STAND IN MY POWER to create whatever it is I want to create in my life. Again, exact opposite of "cult" I didn't experience any of these food water deprivations you claim. Quite the contrary. As I am diabetic, I had to constantly manage my food and insulin and use the bathroom. I was never once deprived or chastised; I was actually acknowledged and praised for taking care of myself responsibly. I've since staffed some of the trainings and have not experienced any of what you claim. Especially that of anyone suffering from any significant traumas are not permitted to even attend the training until after being cleared by a therapist, which I believe is extremely responsible of CECNY. Basically, in my experience, none of your assertions exist in any basis of reality. Also, note that the EST trainings of the 80s you referred to as the origin of the CECNY trainings has actually evolved into the largest and most successful corporate training company in the country today. They are significantly more popular today than the 80's because of their tremendous effectiveness and efficacy. In the last year, I've experienced CECNY graduates create great results their lives and the lives of loved ones. I've seen families healed, businesses prosper, charities started, children being reunited with parents, new relationships blossom, etc etc etc but haven't seen any of what you claim. It seems to me you may have had some grievance with the company and found articles on the internet that have nothing to do with CECNY and are trying to smear their name in an effort to get back at them. That is completely out of integrity and simply not cool....but your choice nonetheless. I hope you get over anger before it consumes you. Much love!

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