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Complaint Review: Certified Recovery Systems - Houston Texas

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  • Certified Recovery Systems 7207 Regency Square Court #100 Houston, Texas U.S.A.

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I accrued 2 accounts due to financial problems last fall. One for 95.00 and the other for 160.00. CRSI (Certified Recovery Systems LLP) charges a convenience fee to pay through their online website only to bring in more profit. If you have an account up to 100.00 they charge you 10.00 to pay online. If it is over 100.00 the fee becomes 20.00. That sounds like robbery to me.

They contacted me about these debts, and assured me that if I paid, they wouldn't show up on my credit report. Well, I made the 95.00 payment on the 2nd of February. I made the 160.00 payment on the 10th of February. I was assured that as long as both account payments were received by the 10th of February, my credit wouldn't be ruined. Well, after making both payments I assumed that all was well. Little do they know is I check my credit report every 3 months. I am very meticulous about my credit, and take debts serious by paying them off.

On Friday the accounts showed up on my Experian credit report as UNPAID collection accounts. They lied to me, and then reported the account to the credit bureaus as unpaid. Under the FCRA this is illegal. They have illegaly reported on me, showing my current credit obligations as unpaid. This is false reporting.

After emailing them, I got a quick reply to contact the office by phone if I have problems or questions.

Everyone has to realize that collection agencies will lie to get payment. If you have a debt, don't pay it untill you get the agreement in writing.

I have called my bank, Wells Fargo, and did a charge back on my checking account. I got a measure of justice against these dishonest Aholes. Now I have 255.00 plus $30.00 in fees sitting in my checking account. I will not pay on an account if it will show up on my credit report.

Unfortunately for them, they have 2 choices. Accept my proposal to delete the misleading negative information, with full payment. Or keep the negative information on my credit untill they figure out they won't get one red cent from me. Then they will be forced to sell the accounts. Upon deleting me from their database, automatically the accounts come off my credit record. I will then be given an opportunity to pay in full to a new collection agency when they take over the accounts.

This is how you beat the credit system. Collection agencies are only interested in the bottom line, which is to make money. If the consumer is unwilling to pay, they are forced to sell the account to another collector. Why pay the account if it will remain on your credit?

Some might say this is immoral, but it isn't. No laws are being broken. No one is getting hurt. Both parties end up a winner.

Party A (the debtor) wins by learning how to manage money and pay up on his obligations, as well as cleaning up their credit to accurately reflect their current credit obligations.

Party B (the company) wins by meeting their bottom line. They recover the lost money. They are no longer at a loss. Everyone wins. This is why no one wants to pay. Because if they have a negative account on their credit regardless of whether or not they pay, what's the point of using your hard earned money to lead a horse to water? By paying you are acknowledging your mistakes. Shouldn't you be rewarded? By paying you could clean up your credit, and become more credit saavy and responsible.

Remember, there has to be rewards for a job well done. By now seeing that in me, CRSI just lost 285.00 total due to their negligence.

As for the 7 year reporting period, I can wait. I have 4 other "paid as agreed" accounts listed and 2 active "accounts in good standing." 4 are revolving accounts and 2 are credit accounts. 2 accounts might hurt me but won't impede my ability to obtain credit. As to CRSI's intent to impede me of getting any credit, they didn't succeed. They only succeeded in screwing themselves. I can dispute and dispute, somewhere along the 7 year line, they will slip up. The credit bureaus will be required by law (The FCRA) to remove the listing if not verified within 30 days.

All collection agencies are ripoffs. DONT GIVE THEM ONE RED PENNY UNLESS IN WRITING THEY AGREE TO REMOVE THE LISTING FROM YOUR CREDIT. Otherwise you are just wasting money.

Tom
Kerrville, Texas
U.S.A.

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#6 Consumer Comment

Hmmmm, J, you must live in Podunk, CA

AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 06, 2005

That is about the only place in California you will get a house for $225,000. "Fixer-uppers" go for half a mil around here.

People who DO pay their bills get contacted by collection agencies and junk debt buyers. I fought with one for over a year over a non-existent Sprint PCS bill and just had contact with one who tried to collect a non-existent medical bill from 2002..never mind the doctor retired in 1986 (I didn't live in California until 1989) and DIED in 1992.

Don't be so self-righteous...I have a FICO of 800+ and it happened to me...and yes, I have a good rate on my mortgage and don't have a fixer-upper.

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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Response to the person from anytown, Turns out, the collection agency were wrong and they looked the same way you sound ..like a

AUTHOR: Dawn - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, August 06, 2005

Were you born an a**hole or did you work at it your whole life? Since you think you know it all, my insurance covered the bills and the debt was successfully removed as of yesterday,after making a call to my provider and my insurance company. Turns out, the collection agency were wrong and they looked the same way you sound....like a f****** idiot! And I was faxed all my documents to forward to the credit bureaus. Yes b***h, I can afford a lawyer. As far as your so called six figure house goes....heres a tip...heres 2 quarters go call someone that gives a s***!

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#4 Consumer Comment

hhhmmmmmmm never dealt with or talked to a collection agency.

AUTHOR: J - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, August 05, 2005

I am 35 years old and have never dealt with or talked to a collection agency. How have I managed to avoid this you might ask. I pay my bill on time every month. Tom you say that you have 4 accounts in good standing and those 2 outstanding accounts will not hurt your ability to obtain credit. You have not clue one what you are talking about.

You can probably get credit with someone but you are going to pay a higher interest rate than someone who has no outstanding collection actions. Better pray that you never have to buy a new house or refinance your existing trailer. You will not only have a satisfy those accounts but probably will have to pay a higher down payment or buy points to get someone to finance you.

I just bought a 225,000.00 house last year and could have gotten financed by putting 1% down. If I had bad credit I could have had to put as much as 15% down. I opted to put 20% down which means my interest rate was lowered by 1/2 a percent.

And now I move to Dawn. You have a laywer on stand by but couldn't afford to pay the bill in the first place so it wasn't referred to a collection agency.....things that make you go hhhmmmmm

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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Did you even read the post?

AUTHOR: Dawn - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, August 05, 2005

This person stated they did pay the debt until the collection agency decided to back out of their end of the bargain. Lying to someone making them believe you will uphold the end of your bargain is the "typical" way in this country and theres plenty of examples of that. I think they should cut out the middle man "bottom feeding collection agencies" and go straight to the source.
Collection agenices are pathetic and you know what really pisses them off? When you pay the original creditor and not them......I know because thats what I am doing right now. I am paying the debt but to the creditor....Now, the collection agency wants to keep calling, they should save a unit. A cease and desist letter is on its way certified, and I have a lawyer on standby. These agencies are idiots and if they say they will remove a negative item their sorry asses should hold up their end of the deal but since I know they cant be trusted I saw F*** Em!

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#2 Consumer Comment

Typical

AUTHOR: Jonathan - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, August 05, 2005

I neither work for now or have ever worked for a CRA.

I agree with you that these companies are a pain in the A$#, but you made the debt, now pay the debt. Then you want a "reward" for doing what's right? Typical American.

Give me something for doing what I was supposed to do in the first place, i.e. pay your debts in a timely fashion. Loser.

"Remember, there has to be rewards for a job well done." Moron.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Couldn't agree more All collection agencies are knee cap busters

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, March 25, 2005

All collection agencies are knee cap busters. They couldn't care less if you dropped dead right after sucking your money out of you. I agree with your assessment 100%. The only way to protect yourself is to get a proposal in writing signed by the management, not some flunkie associate. They will try to screw you out of money you don't owe, they will lie to you and not follow through with any type of agreement you make (unless backed up in writing). They will re-report you to the credit bureaus just to keep re-starting the 7 year clock, and sit back and drink coffe and giggle with their friends about it. And don;t expect any help from the credit bureau. Despite what they may tell you, they are in business for the companies that pay the membership fee, and will allow ANYTHING to appear on your credit, right or wrong, and they do nothing about keeping your credit record accurate.

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