• Report: #65677

Complaint Review: Colorado Police Protective Association

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  • Submitted: Wed, August 13, 2003
  • Updated: Sun, August 19, 2012

  • Reported By:Aurora CO
Colorado Police Protective Association
1485 Kelly Johnson Boulevard, Suite 230 Colorado Springs, Colorado U.S.A.

Colorado Police Protective Association Telemarketing uses lies and threats to get you to donate. ripoff. Colorado Springs Colorado

*Consumer Comment: 303-532-4008 - Colorado Police Protection Association

*UPDATE Employee: CPPA Scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: WHAT REALLY HAPPENS AT J.A.K TELEMARKING

*Consumer Comment: Same thing - ripoff

*UPDATE Employee: my rebuttal

*Consumer Comment: "Not for Profit"? Don't make me laugh!

*Consumer Suggestion: Police do not solicit donations usually....

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As far as I can tell the CPPA is a telemarketing company using lies and threats to get you to make a donation to their cause.

After being contacted by phone at home (the CO do-not-call list does not apply to non-profits) I agreed to a modest (tax deductible I was assured) donation of $25 dollars to their cause provided they send me the info and I could send in the check.

Their info arrived shortly thereafter, but in big blue letters on the donation form it states that all donations are NOT tax deductible. Fine, this cause does not meet my criteria for a donation, so I pitched the material and thought nothing of it.

Six or so weeks go by and I receive a nasty call from the CPPA, wanting the donation I promised. I explained the earlier call I had with the orginal caller and the tax deductibe issue I have with the donation to no avail. This jerk was insistant that I fulfill my commitment, and pay up. He even hinted that he could have local law enforcement officers visit me at my home. I told him to go fish in so many words.

Whatever. If you call me again you will get another ear full.

Wayne
Aurora, Colorado
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

303-532-4008 - Colorado Police Protection Association

AUTHOR: jhondough1 - (United States of America)

i just got a call from 303-532-4008 - Colorado Police Protection Association saying the same script provided a few topics up thanking me for the donation "that i did not make" also said that this year unfortunately all donations will not be tax deductible, and asking me if i can make a 45 dollar donation.
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#2 UPDATE Employee

CPPA Scam

AUTHOR: Jakemployee - (U.S.A.)

JAK productions is absolutely the most shady company i have ever worked for!
We call people basically pretending to be law enforcement to trick them into giving money, we don't say we are police but we

are not allowed to say we are not unless asked. we also commit multiple FCC violations on a daily basis.

Here is a script that we use:
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mr/ms
example: mr/ms John Doe
(we say hello and the other person says hello back, thats how we know if its a man or a woman)
hello, hello..
hello
this is calling on behalf of the colorado police protective association
::PAUSE:: (they usually say "yes?")

Mr. , the officers want to remind you to buckle up for safety and most importantly please remind your friends and family not to drink and drive.

Mr , the officers are conducting there 200x fund drive and the proceeds will be used for the DEATH BENEFITS for the familys of officer who die in the line of duty along with some other wonderful programs like the bullet proof vest program to protect the officers.

as a paid solicitor with J.A.K. I'm going to send you the 200x CPPA decal that way you can show your great support to the officers.

the donation levels are the gold at 45 the silver is 35 and the bronze is 25 this year.
I will go ahead and put you down for the 35 unless you want to reach up and touch the gold or silver this year, does the 35 sound fair enough to you?


rebutle 1: Mr , not only does the cppa provide death benefits but it also provides a scollarship program for the sons and daughters of the officers. now can the officers count on you for a goodwill pledge of 20.


rebutle 2: Mr can the officers count on you for a booster pledge of 15 or 12?

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If you would like to help combat this scam, tell the caller what he wants to hear, sure go ahead and put me down for the GOLD. at this point you can give them a fake addr or give them your correct addr and receive a free cppa decal for your vehicle. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ONE RED CENT! and if you don't pay the pledge/donation you will receive a call in 2 to 3 months and this is the script:

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Mr , you were contacted a few months ago and you made a very generous commitment to the CPPA

a letter and a decal were sent to you and also a second letter, however the CPPA has yet to receive your donation

now perhaps you lost the pledge kit or didn't receive it, or for some unforeseen reason you were unable to send it back.

Mr do you remember receiving the pledge kit or decal?



Thats ok Mr chump, the reason im calling is try to reduce your original pledge to a much lower amount of $17 and get you a new package out in the mail.
I'm sure that would be more comfortable for you correct?

rebutle 1: well Mr , your support is greatly relied upon, how bout i put you down for a goodwill booster of 15 or 12?

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If you do pay the donation, you will be called by several other charitable organizations using many different names like

firefighters, war vets, police...all owned by J.A.K.


we also use scam lines like:
child protection program
child fingerprint program
children of officers who are killed or injured in the line of duty
officers violently killed

all are free to contact me, i can provide all scrips (amvets, CPPA, F.O.P, etc.)
photo's of work terminals, scripts, rebuttle forms...

Here's a little shocking news for you readers. JAK productions stands for John Abraham Keller (this is not his birth name) Mr

keller is not a resident of the united states... Mr Keller is from... the middle east...
and 85% to 97% of every thing you give as a donation, doesnt go to help any one but the middle east, and we all know what

happens when a middle easterner gets a little extra money.....


if you would like to call the office that called you

parkersburg wv office
(304) 422-9363

wheeling wv office
(304) 232-0577
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

WHAT REALLY HAPPENS AT J.A.K TELEMARKING

AUTHOR: Employee From Wheeling Wv - (U.S.A.)

I WAS HIRED BACK ON OCT 22 OF 2008,STARTING PAY 11HR, TO CALL FOR COLORADO POLICE PROTECTION ASS.,AMVETS,VIRGINIA FOP,FULTON COUNTY FOP LODGE #64,PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS OF GEORGIA,THE COLORADO POLICE PROTECTIVE FUND,AND THE COLORADO FIREFIGHTERS ASS..THEY GAVE US SCRIPTS AND SAID THAT WE HAVE TO READ THEM VERBATIM...(WHICH NOBODY EVER DOES),FOR EACH ONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE CALL FOR.NOW THE LISTS THAT WE CALL ARE DIVIDED INTO 5 DIFFERENT CATERGORIES...COLD,CROSS,FALLEN ANGELS ,TAPS AND LIARS.THE COLD IS PEOPLE THAT NEVER GAVE BEFORE AND WE NEVER CALLED SUPPOSEDLY.CROSS IS A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT WE CALLED FOR A DIFFERENT CAMPAIGN EARLIER IN THE YEAR THAT DID DONATE THEN,FALLEN ANGELS IS PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONATED TO CAMPAIGNS YEARS AGO ,TAPS IS PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONATED TO THAT CAMPIAGN THAT WERE CALLING WITHIN THAT YEAR,AND LIARS IS A LIST OF PEOPLE WHO SAID THAT THEY WOULD DONATE BUT NEVER SENT BACK THE DONATION THEY PROMISED.WELL WHERE DO I BEGIN,LET ME JUST SAY THAT ANYTIME YOU DONATE THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY KEEP IS 85% AND THEY SUPPOSEDLY ONLY GIVE THE ORGANIZATIONS 15%.THE FIRST WEEK I WAS THERE CALLING ON THE PHONES WAS WHEN I NEW SOMETHING WASNT RIGHT,I THEY HAD ONE FEMALE CALLER AND THE REST WAS MEN,NOW THE VERIFICATION DEPT WERE WE HAD TO TRANSFER THE CUST TO ONCE WE GOT THE OK FROM THE CUST THAT THEY WANTED TO DONATE ,THAT DEPT A COUPLE OF CUBICLES OVER WERE ALL WOMEN.WHEN I STARTED ASKING WHY THEY DONT HAVE ANY WOMEN THE RESPONSE I GOT WAS JOHN KELLER THE OWNER DOESNT WANT WOMEN CALLERS BECAUSE THEY DONT SOUND LIKE POLICE OFFICERS ON THE PHONE,AND THEY CANT GET THE JOB DONE.I WAS TOLD THAT IN ORDER TO DO THIS JOB YOU HAVE TO ACT LIKE A POLICE OFFICER AND DONT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER,WHICH WAS RELAYED TO ME BY A MANAGER.NOW WHEN WE WAS CALLING IF THE ROOM WASNT DOING GOOD IN A CAMPAIGN,THEY WOULD ALWAYS HAVE YOU STOP CALLING AND HAVE MEETING WHERE THE MANAGER MATT WOULD START CUSSING AT EVERYONE SAYING THAT IF WE DONT START F##KING PERFORMING THAT HE WOULD FIRE EVERYBODY RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND GO OPEN A NEW CALL CENTER AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION.NOW THESE SO CALLED MEETING WOULD LAST ABOUT 10 MIN AND ALL THEY WOULD DO IS INTIMIDATE EVERYONE INTO TRYING TO PERFORM BETTER,BY REBUTTALING THE CUSTS OVER AND OVER UNTIL THEY HANG UP OR DONATE.ALSO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS THEY ARE HAVING YOU STAND UP EVERY HALF AN HOUR ON THE HOUR IF THE ROOM ISNT DOING GOOD SAYING THAT YOU MUST STAND UNTIL YOU GET A SALE THEN YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND THIS HAPPENS EVERY DAY,AND IF YOU DONT STAND THEN THEY FORCE YOU TO GO HOME.NOW I FOUND OUT WHEN I GOT TO WORK THE SAME HOURS AS THE ONLY FEMALE THERE HER NAME IS TERRI,I FOUND OUT THAT SHE HAS BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND WHY SHES BEEN THERE SO LONG WITHOUT GETTING FIRED OR WRITTEN UP FOR ANYTHING,EACH AND EVERY SHIFT THAT SHE WORKS SHE GETS CALLED UP BY MATT THE MANAGER AND HAS TO RUB HIS SHOULDERS,AND BACK FOR AT LEAST A GOOD HALF AN HOUR EACH DAY,THEN WHEN HE FINISHED WITH HER SHE THEN RUBS ONE OF THE OTHER MANAGERS BACK NAMED JORDAN,FOR ABOUT TEN TO FIFTEEN MIN AS WELL.TALK ABOUT WRONGFULL WORK MISCONDUCT,I CAN JUST IMAGINE WHAT ELSE GOES ON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.NOW ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THAT EVERY SHIFT THAT WE WORK WE LOSE ABOUT TEN TO FIFTEEN MIN OF PAY TIME BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LOG IN ON TIME WHEN ARE SHIFT STARTS,BUT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL ARE FIRST MEETING OF THE DAY IS OVER WHICH USUALLY TAKES ABOUT TEN TO FIFTEEN MIN.THEN THEY ALLOW US TO LOG IN WHICH IS HOW ARE PAY IS KEPT TRACK OF BY THE COMPUTER WE USE WHEN WE LOG IN THE TIME STARTS.NOW EVERY WEEK WE PROBALY LOSE ABOUT A LITTLE OVER AN HOURS PAY,WHICH TO SOMEBODY LIKE ME IS ALOT OF MONEY.NOW JAK HAS AN EMPLOYEE HANDBOOK THAT THEY SHOW YOU WHEN YOUR HIRED BUT DO NOT LET YOU KEEP IT.NOW WHAT I DO REMEBER IS WORK OFFENSES,THE FIRST OFFENSE IS A VERBAL WARNING,THE SECOND IS A 3 DAY SUSPENSION,THE THIRD IS A 30 DAY SUSPENSION,AND FINALLY THE FOURTH IS TERMINATION.NOW OVER THE COURSE OF THE 3 MONTHS THAT I WORKED THERE PEOPLES PAYS WOULD BE LESS THAN WHAT THEY SHOULD OF BEEN THERE HOURLY RATE WOULD BE CHANGED ON THEM WITHOUT ANY GOOD CAUSE,THEY WOULD GET SUSPENDED FOR THE FIRST OFFENSE OF HAVING HIGH WRAP TIMES,GET SENT HOME AFTER AN HOUR OF BEING THERE BECAUSE THEY DIDNT HAVE A SALE OR NOT PERFORMING ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.THEY DO NOT ADHERE TO THERE OWN COMPANIES POLICIES,AND TO DO NOT GO BY THE BOOK THEY THINK THAT SINCE THE COMPANY IS IN W.V WHICH THEY CLAIM IS A FIRE AT WILL STATE THEY CAN FIRE YOU FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY MAKE UP,AND YOU CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.NOW THIS IS THE REASON I AM TELLING EVERYONE ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE 2 DAYS AFTER CHRISTMAS,THEY FIRED 23 EMPLOYEES SAYING THAT THE WEEK BEFORE XMAS COLLECTIONS WERE NOT GOOD AND JOHN KELLER WANTED EVERYBODY WHOS COLLECTIONS WERE BAD, FIRED.SINCE I HAVE WORKED THERE MY COLLECTIONS ON WHAT I WROTE HAS BEEN ANYWHERE FROM 30% to 65%,week to week.which is very good.all i want to know is since this was my fist bad collection which i wrote 6,000 dollars for the week and 1,100 dollars came back thats around 20%.why wasnt i warned about it or suspened for 3 days like the company handbook says.now 19 employees and 4 managers lost there job because of this but when we asked why guidelines werent followed there response was it was John Kellers decision to let you go not ours.I AM SICK AND TIRED OF TELEMARKING COMPANIES LIKE THIS THAT THINK THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.IF ANYONE READS THIS AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS EMAIL ME .I HAVE ALL 23 OF US WANTING TO FILE A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT,ITS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE WE CATCH JOHN A KELLER WITH HIS HAND IN THE COOKIE JAR!!!!!!
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#4 Consumer Comment

Same thing - ripoff

AUTHOR: Bob - (U.S.A.)

A local town used an organization (it did not sound like the original Ripoffreport) to solicit donations from the citizens. It seems even the police department did not realize the company soliciting was going to keep 85% of the proceeds, so the police only got 15%. Everyone except the company was pretty disgusted by the whole thing. If you have a donation to make to the police or fire department, send it to them directly. Years ago I was caught by the same scam.

The county fire department where I live has a fund drive every year and the firemen come to your door. These men and women are volunteers and the fund drive is a way to get new equipment, etc. so I donate. At least I can see who I am donating to.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

my rebuttal

AUTHOR: Dustin - (U.S.A.)

i actually work for the company j.a.k productions it stands for the owner of the company

John abraham keller

we as in tld by our jobs to rebuttal you down for the money when the script is pitched to you your right though cppa is non profit so it doesnt have to go under the national do not call lists along with state do not call lists the list the gentleman was referring to about not sending the money backi he was put on a no pay list which the script is like this

you were contacted a few months ago and made a generous commitment of 25 ettc. a few months back however they never did receive your donations in etc/

it keeps going on but any questons email me
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#6 Consumer Comment

"Not for Profit"? Don't make me laugh!

AUTHOR: Robin - (U.S.A.)

I checked into this Colorado Police Protective Association on the Web; this organization seems to be a group of lobbyists (warning bells). They have hired JAK Productions, Inc. to solicit the citizens of Colorado. As long as this group is using paid professional telemarketers to solicit, you can bet that JAK is keeping a big portion of your money! And JAK Productions is NOT a non-profit!

I, too, was besieged with calls for the Teddy Bear Fund, the State Police Olympics, the Police Survivors Fund, etc., etc., etc. I was amazed that our Police on all levels were so needy! I felt very noble donating since all sectors of Arkansas law-enforcement seemed to be on their last legs.

Did some research and discovered that LESS THAN 15% of all the money I donated was going to the Police at all! These were professional telemarketers and the bulk of my donations were going to these same people who were harassing me mercilessly all hours of the day and night!

They are PAID (and paid WELL) telemarketers (to the tune of 85% of my donation going to them)! When I let them know that I had discovered what the scam was, I asked to be put on the do-not-call list and I was put on it! These people will call and actually try to make you think that they are law-enforcement officers, donating time on their days off.

I did some checking; I can donate directly to the State Police or to my local Sheriffs Department and those donations ARE tax-deductible! Check with the law-enforcement department that you want to support and ask. Just tell them you want to send money without going through the middle-man. Each state has different laws, but there is usually a way to do that.

Tell these poeple when they call back that you thought that you were donating to the Police, not a bunch of lobbyists!
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Police do not solicit donations usually....

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

This is probably an all out scam. I got a call from a similar organization out here in AZ and I asked for them to mail me something before I make any donations and they never evenb mailed it.

Report these guys to your Attorney General. They might not even be legit, aqnd to threaten you with law enforcement is insane. Police do not even get involved in civil matters anyways. tell these to F off and not to call you again.
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