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  • Submitted: Wed, October 30, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, October 30, 2013

  • Reported By: They will not pay — Little River South Carolina
C.P. United
Highway 90 Fire Plaza Unit 26 Little River, South Carolina USA

C.P. United Helthmor Filter Queen Worked for 2 weeks wasted gas and time and reciceved no compensation. Promised at minium $200.00 and recieved nothing. After doing research and decided to quit he acted childish and unprofessional. Little River South Carolina

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The definintion of an independent contractor

*UPDATE Employee: How can you not do any work and expect to get paid?

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 I anwsered an ad on craiglist and was aked to come in for an interview at 9am the next day dressed professional. When getting to there office there were 12 other people there also. I feeled out an applicaption and asked to call back later that afternoon to see if I had the job.

I started training the next day and was told I would get $400.00 upon doing 12 presentations in a 3 day period to my friends and family. If I did not not get the presentations done I was garenteed $200.00( by Jerry Hall). I was told if I did not like the job to just return the equipmnet and I would be given my $200.00 no questions asked. While demonstrationg the eqipment we were told we could take a picture or video of the demonstarion but not to have him in the pictures or video. Jerry Hall told us that he would sue us for taking picture. This sounded weird to me.

When I did research on this company I did not like what I had seen posted about this company. I am not the kind of person that takes advantage of people and that was exactly what this company was doing. They are selling their product at a huge mark up and charging very high interest rates.

When they called me to set up a meeting at 4 knowing that i have a second job I informed them of what I had found out about this company and Eugene(the big boss) got very defensive and rude. To top it off he hung up the phone on me! About 30 minutes later Jerry Hall the manger called me and asked me for his product back to him by 4 knowing I have to be at my other job at 4. He said he would do me the favor of giving me till 9am the next morning to return his product before he sent the police to my house to have me arrested for stealing his merchindise.

Upon returning the equipment to the office Jerry Hall was still very defensive and would not look me in the face. I asked him to check the equipment and make sure everything was there, he was very short with me. I asked for all of my paperwork back since I was not going to be paid and Jerry Hall made copies of all of my paerwork before returning most of my parerwok. I did not recieve all of the papers I was asked to feel out. Exspecially the papers that was promising my pay.


This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/30/2013 11:11 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/CP-United/Little-River-South-Carolina-29566/CP-United-Helthmor-Filter-Queen-Worked-for-2-weeks-wasted-gas-and-time-and-reciceved-no-1095722. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The definintion of an independent contractor

AUTHOR: Tim - ()

Let's talk about the definition of what and "independent contractor" straight from the Internal Revenue Service website:

Independent Contractor Defined

People such as doctors, dentists, veterinarians, lawyers, accountants, contractors, subcontractors, public stenographers, or auctioneers who are in an independent trade, business, or profession in which they offer their services to the general public are generally independent contractors. However, whether these people are independent contractors or employees depends on the facts in each case. The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if the payer has the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not what will be done and how it will be done. The earnings of a person who is working as an independent contractor are subject to Self-Employment Tax.

If you are an independent contractor, you are self-employed. To find out what your tax obligations are, visit the Self-Employed Tax Center.

You are not an independent contractor if you perform services that can be controlled by an employer (what will be done and how it will be done). This applies even if you are given freedom of action. What matters is that the employer has the legal right to control the details of how the services are performed.

If an employer-employee relationship exists (regardless of what the relationship is called), you are not an independent contractor and your earnings are generally not subject to Self-Employment Tax.

However, your earnings as an employee may be subject to FICA (Social Security tax and Medicare) and income tax withholding.

For more information on determining whether you are an independent contractor or an employee, refer to the section on Independent Contractors or Employees

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Since the employer is controlling the sales calls that you make, you are not an independent contractor.  These dealerships are not following the law.

 

There was a decision made in New York State about the same law.  Unfortunately Filter Queen has crossed some lines. 

I believe the Filter Queen products are great but if they really wanted to be a competitive product without all the legalities and red tape, then they should be sold at Best Buy, Wal Mart, and Amazon right next to the Dyson products eliminating the middle man.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

How can you not do any work and expect to get paid?

AUTHOR: C.P. United - ()

This report is completely false. I have been with the company for about 6 months now and alot of people come through the doors who expect to get paid and not work.

This is mostly sales and you are given a certain job to do within a certain amount of time. I had 3 days to do 12 presentations and I would make $400. I completed my 12 presentations in 3 days, sold my presentation to 4 out of the 12 presentations I did, and actually got paid MORE than $400 I was told I would receive. The manager actually gave me 10% of my sales during my training and it was the most I had ever made in one week.

If you don't do your job, you don't get paid. SIMPLE AS THAT. They are not a cash distributor and just hand out money to people who want something for nothing. It would be nice but honestly, I do not know of any other company who does that either. YOU HAVE TO WORK IN ORDER TO GET PAID! And thats for every job.

As far as the $200 if you don't do your presentations and the picture thing? COMPLETELY false. I have never been promised $200 for doing nothing in this company. AGAIN, I say, you have to work in order to get paid with any job.

I get paid every week, with commision, and with gas allowance because I do my job description to a T. This is the best pay I have ever received and I basically do my job on my own time. Also, my managers help me every time I ask. It doesn't get any better than that in my book. One thing about me though, I am motivated, I have a drive, I am not lazy, and I know things in life don't come free. You have to work for it. IT WOULD BE SO GREAT IF MORE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT!

So for the lieing and lazy people who have nothing better to do than get mad because you want to write false statements AND get paid for doing absolutely nothing, good luck to your next job. I bet you won't keep that one either.

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